Say what you like about Tommy Morrison but he had a great record, 52 fights, 48 wins, 42 wins by K.O and only 3 losses and 1 draw. That’s damn good by anyone’s standards.
steven lindsay uh yes I do. It’s just facts. He himself admitted he was on steroids. The only good fighters he beat were old George foreman and old razor Ruddock.
Terrence Odonnell Tulsa He lived in Tulsa for awhile. He was born Jay Oklahoma. I believe he once lived in Kansas City and died in Omaha Nebraska as well.
At the height of his stardom Tommy took the time to write me a letter of encouragement after I sustained an injury and subsequent surgery from boxing. He was a good man. Flawed but who isn't?!
@@nebulaquinn yes Sir. Won't let me attach the picture. One of my most cherished possessions. Was a such a surprise to get that in the mail from him and gave me the motivation to make it back.
Tommy had the potential to be a great fighter. I agree he seemed like a good hearted guy who sadly listened to the wrong people and it cost him everything. One of boxing’s greatest tragedies
Ill never forget that knockout by Mercer. Jeez it was wild, I think Tommy had his brain fried after that. Mercer was a mean cunt, I hated him and I was well glad when Larry Holmes beat him in his next match.
I met Tommy and his then wife years ago on a cruise to the Caribbean. Literally hung out with him all week. My whole life I was a big bodybuilder and thats how we got talking. Tommy was an extremely nice guy - as well as being very generous. He actually spent about $1,000 in a casino teaching me how to play blackjack. He did party his ass off as well. I carried him to his room a few late nights that week. I asked him point blank about being HIV and he said getting syringes was hard back then and he used to inject steroids and he and a few of his gym buddies would share needles. At the end of the week we swapped info and for quite some we called each other or wrote letters. Very cool guy and definitely had some demons
Great boxer, and youre right. Tommy accomplished a lot, and despite losing to some of the bigger names in the sport, he had a great career. I hope hes at peace now.
I went to school with Tommy's two sons, I remember seeing him come into the student center before he passed. Both of his sons are boxing now and both undefeated.
I went to Jay High School with Tommy he was a great dude. Kept in touch with him for a while after he went to prison. Still a great friend in my book. Nobody's perfect. 🤘
What about boxer Nigel Benn? That’s probs the saddest.. just cause he survived but had suffered half veg. The rest of his left with the loss of all support from companies that once backed him
If you consider steroids worthy of rating. I bet Ronnie Coleman could have knocked Morrison's head CLEAN OFF, but obviously he could never make the test.
Tommy “the Duke” Morrison will be remembered in my mind as a great pro boxer, the duke had the potential to have been much better then he was. Which says a lot about the dukes awesome boxing skills while focused, an no matter how great your skills are you have to take care and love yourself. Which not many do
@@ivantapia2611 Not that I can find. There are other videos on him on UA-cam, but the ESPN 30 for 30, the only way I know (there may be other ways) how to get it is to sign up for ESPN+. I believe that all the 30 for 30s from ESPN are on that streaming service.
I met Tommy Morrison in 2003 at a night club I was bouncing at in Hattiesburg, MS. His wife's best friend was getting deployed from camp shelby and they came to see her off. We hung out and drank with him all night, super nice guy.
Tommy was a good friend of mine. We have a video on you tube together working mitts at my old condo.. He had it all and lost it all in such little time..but he was honestly one of the nicest dudes ever..and had tremendous punching power. When I had him over I made him a dozen and a half eggs, bacon and almost an entire loaf of bread. Then not even an hour after that wanted to go to Dominos. Lol He gladly met a few of my friends with open arms and we had great times together. Miss him dearly
He was _absolutely_ on his way to the pinnacle of success. I believe his career was deliberately sabotaged by the evil men in control of the fight game, due to his larger-than-life persona and the threat it posed to the propagation of their 'narrative'. I would like to have the resources to investigate his entire life and every person who had an influence in his personal life or control over his money and find names of all the bad people involved. Do you have any odd stories to share, that might shed light on my "conspiracy" theory? Thanks and my most sincere, belated condolences.
I was a bartender at a nightclub in Biloxi, Ms and Tommy was in town for a week for a fight. He came in the club every night and could barely walk because the women were all over him. He was jacked af and looked like a golden god but was really down to earth and treated everybody like a friend. He drank like a fish and would be wasted by closing time which was 2:00 am. He drank double gin and orange juice. Can't imagine how horrendous his hangovers had to be. Easy to understand how he came down with hiv and stds. The women went insane over him.
Yeh he sure seemed to have it all…I remember rocky five came out my first year in college and I was trying to go out with this girl and for some reason all she talked about was him….he was only about three years older than I was…..he was a handsome guy and he was handsome in a really particular way, he seemed to have it all, even after all these years it’s painful to look back on how it ended…
@@longdays5705 Yeah I was actually searching the comments to see if anyone points out this fact and once again Joe Rogan has no clue about boxing!! :P U know what im saying.Nah guys Tommy wasnt only a champ..he was a great champ 4 me at least.GO check it out he was the HW champion or a HW champion
allthough i think this was the only title he ever had ..but i think he held it twice(NOt 100 percent sure though) relax ma boy we all know back in the day WBO wasnt major but now it is and 1st point im sure Joe has no idea if it was minor or major he hasent even seen 1 fight of Tommy(except his first loss of course) 2nd point :All HWs who have held the WBO are considered former champs whether we like it or no (DO NOT ASK ME BABY ...ASK WIKIPEDIA....ARE you GUYS MORE KNOWLEDGABLE THAN WIKI.com¨??):P XD
That Mercer KO was absolutely brutal. Morrison was out on his feet after a left connected and then ate 10 more shots before the ref stepped in. That ref should have been banned from boxing after that.
Morrison had won every round of that fight before the ko too. He just punched himself out. Mercer had a great chin and Tommy didn’t box smart that night
If memory serves he was the same ref who ten years earlier allowed the EXACT same thing to happen to Ken Norton when Cooney trapped him in a corner in a similar way…..check it out, I think it’s the same ref
When I was in junior high and high school I did golden gloves. I worked out at a gym called "Bell recreation center" in Kansas City, Kansas this would have been when Tommy had about 3-4 pro fights under his belt. Tommy was the only pro fighter that worked out there, and him being from Jay, Oklahoma where my grandfather grew up we kind of hit it off, I was like 14-15 y.o. he helped me develop my left hook (I'm a southpaw) he was just a regular guy, that happened to be able to knock a guy's head clean off their body. Here is a bit of trivia you might not know. At 13 Tommy was competing, at the adult level, in tough man competitions and beating grown ass men. My personal feelings are that he had the absolute best left hook in the heavyweight division period full stop. It is just sad and tragic that he let the partying lifestyle kill his dreams.
I think doing what he did to grown men in those competitions at 13 is almost more impressive than anything in boxing, thats such an uneven matchup and he was still winning
It's a tragic story, but at the same time he hid his disease and went on to compete against people who had no idea of the risk they were taking. Luckily no one he faced contracted the virus, but that's still inexcusable.
Since then, alot of fight promotions are required by the state to blood test the fighters. I think even WWE has to make their wrestlers take an HIV and Hepatitis blood test.
Wow. This really saddens me. I was just talking about Tommy Morrison the other day and was wondering about what he was up to nowadays. Had no idea that he lost that badly and fell off the deep end. Wasn't a big fan of Rocky V but Tommy did do a good job playing the bad guy in the end. Really sad to hear how his life ended :(
Tommy Morrison I respect I feel for him and his family I followed him for a lot of years throughout his career from the toughman contest and through his prime a monstrous left hook he was born with tremendous speed tremendous talent a tremendous natural to acting on this big screen he was offered a four picture deal after Rocky v you turned it down to maintain his career in boxing lightning fast. Tremendous power and both hands it hurts my heart to know he did not get to to fill his career as he wanted his two sons are keeping the legacy alive I watched their videos highly impressive rest in peace great warrior for you are missed for your legacy lives on God bless
He's saying for girls who want big asses, they get ass implants instead of just doing squats which can lead to ass cancer. Your comment has no correlation to what he actually said and u didnt even quote him right
I agree Chris, joe is so popular yet no one complains about this. That particular (or more aptly peculiar) characteristic is indeed torture. When I’m not in the mood to be annoyed (because it does) I can’t watch and just turn it off. Why doesn’t someone get in his ear about it- I guess cos not enough people tell him or feel this way. But well said!
@iamthebroker The reason they avoid putting the video in the screen or audio, is because UA-cam constantly took their videos down because of copyright.
RobertBaratheon305 fair call and didn’t think about that. Perhaps others that do do it have cleared the copyright issue and those that haven’t at least don’t watch it in front of us and react as they do- I think that’s the naturally annoying thing. I’d prefer they just reference it without watching it.... but thanks for the explanation.
@iamthebroker I agree it’s very annoying. This channel is so big that they can’t get away with any infringements. Rogan talks about it on the podcast all the time.
FRANKIE FRANK but theirs a big difference Tyson had the potential to become the greatest boxer of all time Tommy at best could’ve become a good heavyweight champion for 3 years
@@hornydolphin7953 your kidding right? Tommy had as much potential as Tyson. He was a party animal and relied soley on his natural boxing ability to bail him out his entire career. Had he been disciplined he would've been a HOF heavyweight period.
@phillip martin Tyson and Morrison are more similar than you think. Both burned out due to their lives out of the ring. Morrison partied hard and did steroids on top of that. His body was taking on a tough workload.
@phillip martin I guess when you're jacked and knocking guys out left and right you feel like God and untouchable. I think the Mercer KO fucked up Morrison's head badly and caused him to go off the deep end like he did with muscle implants, meth addiction, and all that shit. There's a documentary on UA-cam where he was trying to make a comeback in 2007. He was mentally fucked in the head, literally.
Darth Vader plagueis was an idiot. He literally told his trainee, the only way you'll get promoted is if you kill your trainer. Then woke up one day dead and acted all surprised because his trainee killed him. Like dude what'd you expect after saying some shit like that
@@sammyborhap He said that because, plagueis believed he had cracked the code to immortality. He thought he had nothing to fear. Not even the rule of two.
Thank god Joe at least knows what he is talking about…. These other clowns have no business talking about boxing when they haven’t got a clue about it! Tommy was not only a complete savage in the ring, dude was a humble, hard working guy. Big up Joe for being the only one to say anything credible
A lot of people overlook it, but Tommy fought a really smart bout against Foreman and actually looked like a solid boxer. Just one more lessen, in this sport, of what could have been. The history of boxing is littered with such lessons.
@@TheGrimmCommoner Yeah at the time, but after Tommy signed with Don King it became much more life imitating art. Tommy was in real life almost a dead ringer for Tommy Gunn, although I will say I never carried Tommy Morrison out of a bar for drinking milk,.
Yup, Exactly. My family knew his team and him as he knew my family in the game and the saying from his team is they always took a sy of relief when they would get him to the arena. The local bar owners would call them and say Come down here and get your boy off the floor before the local news shows up. Wild
Tommy Morrison was the second biggest waste of raw talent and potential in heavyweight boxing. He had top tier fundamental skills, great flexibility, fluidity, balance, timing and coordination. he had other worldly knockout power in both hands, and his left hook was probably the greatest of all time. He knew how to throw that damn left hook, both long range and short range. A superb offensive fighters(one of the greatest in terms of offensive capability). What he did not have were the three D's- discipline, direction and dedication to his craft. Tommy loved to party, and he partied all the time. He never focused after a point, on boxing. He partied literally all day, all year, and it not only stunted and eventually stopped his career, but it also killed him. Its just such a sad story. He could have been so great!
@Iceman 23 Riddick Bowe. He could have been the greastest of all time. He had everything- size, reach, height, strength, cardio, chin, the ability to box from the outside and was such a great inside fighter for a man of his size. But he was focussed only for the Holyfield fight, he just wasted his time and overate apart from that and did not focus. Its sad really, he really had all the tools and the ability to be an all time great(he kinda still is but you get my point). The Bowe who fought Holyfield in the first fight could have beaten any heavyweight to ever live imho.
@@douglasjay9561 They are also making fun of Morrison’s looks, yet look at them, fat, bald, and that skinny dude looks like a Walker from the Walking Dead, lol.
I met Tommy Morrison's best friend about 7 years ago...he was my weed man for a good 2 years. He told me all kinds of fucked up shit that happened to Tommy. Met tommy a few times, boxed at his gym here in Wichita a time or 2. He tried to recruit me but I was well past wanting to be a boxer anymore. He seemed like a nice guy. RIP Tommy
I believe his career was deliberately sabotaged by the evil men in control of the fight game, due to his larger-than-life persona and the threat it posed to the propagation of their 'narrative'. I would like to have the resources to investigate his entire life and every person who had an influence in his personal life or control over his money and find names of all the bad people involved.
@@kerambeach he certainly did my friend he lost his boxing license because of it. Once that happened he lost all his so called friends and hangers on. Tommy life is a sad story but mostly self inflicted.
I grew up in KCMO and I was able to witness Tommy spar @ authentic boxing club. His punches sounded like fastballs at a MLB game. He had great combinations, especially body to head. My dad was a veteran and befriended his chief sparring partner, Brian " BamBam " Scott. I won't bother with the negative talk about HIV,partying, etc. Tommy is a product of the game. I felt like he was a wasted potential, but I am grateful that I got to witness him in his prime.
Tommy Morrison was a great fighter..he just had some personal issues and did not find his way out...it could happen to anyone...we are all just one bad decision away from sinking..
Tommy was a hell of a fighter, made it to the top and definitely had his demons. Sad turn towards the end of his life, that Ray Mercer fight was the start of the end. Also, Ari is a bitch.
Reznik did a great little tribute video called Tommy Morrison - The Rising Sun. The Grave shots are sad. Gone too soon, Duke. His life could be made into a Hollywood movie. Supposedly related to John Wayne, girls getting his number, two wives, steroid use (he wasn't the only one..) and was in a Hollywood picture.
I really think that if Mercier had stopped punching him after he was out, or the ref had stopped the fight earlier, Tommy Morrison life wouldn't have been so tragic after this.
There will come a time in your life where you will feel the lowest possible... Being that you're about to go under, but then youll remember these words. Hmmm.
Have seen every Morrison fight possible. Was so bummed when he had his first loss and of course his KO loss to Mercer too. Kind of figured he would lose to Lewis. Was a huge fan of Tommy's. #TCB
There are darker secrets like the tragedy of the man that was sonny Liston... joe Louis vs the irs. Everything that happened to tommy Morison was his fault. No one else to blame.
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Muhammad Ali being the pedophile that he was is a bigger secret I'd say.
I saw Tito Ortiz back in the day at a Caseys in Des Moines and he had his belt on turned backwards. It was when he was the UFC Champ. I thought it was cool. However, now that I am older it seems really weird he had his championship belt on at a gas station in Iowa.
@@frizzyred1292 not really man, he was already in pretty serious decline and he knew it. He tried to get a fight or two in west Virginia where they didn't require blood testing for fighters but no one was really willing to fight him and take that chance with an ex champion or a chance on getting HIV for chicken scraps and I think it just fizzled out from there. He was a nice guy, I felt like he knew he was in pretty serious decline and just wanted to mentor someone and feel like he was making the most of what he had left
I got to meet Tommy Morrison (We’re both from Tulsa). One of the greatest experiences of my life. He was a truly sweet guy. He also gave me some good life advice about Drugs, Unprotected Sex, and Ego.
When I was in the Air Force, guy in the next dorm room was from Maysville, AR (right on the AR / OK border). One time he showed us a school yearbook (not sure what school), and Tommy Morrison was in his yearbook. I was like, "Dude! You went to school with Tommy Morrison!". This was back when Morrison was a big deal in boxing still.
I'm with Razor Ruddock at Sully's gym in Toronto ask for Tulio l know for a fact he would love to be on Joe's pod cast he tells me funny stories about him and Tyson and other fighters.So if anyone knows Joe call Sully's gym and thanks for replays guys
Rocky 5 and Rocky Balboa are the saddest movies out of all the series. I didn't like watching it as a kid because that's when rocky loses everything and all he had to offer was his love and training. Then it wasnt even focused on his son who was getting bullied and actually needed the love and training. I just related to it too much and didnt like it portrayed in a movie. Dont like reliving those memories
Meet Tommy under some circumstances I won't get into. But I did put a big smile on his face when I reacted Rocky's line to him. "Hey yo, Tommy I thought we was brothers" meet him in Sevierville Tennessee
Say what you like about Tommy Morrison but he had a great record, 52 fights, 48 wins, 42 wins by K.O and only 3 losses and 1 draw. That’s damn good by anyone’s standards.
You're only as good as your last fight.
@@rmenton3 You're only as smart as your last comment.
Mr J W he was on steroids and fought weak competition. Not very good
@@jaydengray4015 you know NOTHING about boxing.
steven lindsay uh yes I do. It’s just facts. He himself admitted he was on steroids. The only good fighters he beat were old George foreman and old razor Ruddock.
Tommy ran everyday at the same track in my hometown. He literally went from nothing to fame back to nothing. Sad story. Rest In Peace Tommy.
I like tommy.real sad he didn't deserve that
Gravette?
Real life rocky without Micky or adrian
Terrence Odonnell Tulsa He lived in Tulsa for awhile. He was born Jay Oklahoma. I believe he once lived in Kansas City and died in Omaha Nebraska as well.
brandon ranger Not to my knowledge.
At the height of his stardom Tommy took the time to write me a letter of encouragement after I sustained an injury and subsequent surgery from boxing. He was a good man. Flawed but who isn't?!
That's so cool man. Do you still have the letter.
@@nebulaquinn yes Sir. Won't let me attach the picture. One of my most cherished possessions. Was a such a surprise to get that in the mail from him and gave me the motivation to make it back.
Mate that's incredible!
To be human, is to be flawed.
Tommy had the potential to be a great fighter. I agree he seemed like a good hearted guy who sadly listened to the wrong people and it cost him everything. One of boxing’s greatest tragedies
Tommy was an absolute beast. Unfortunately his career went down hill after a tough loss to Balboa in a street fight.
Other then that
Best. Comment. Ever! 😂
😂😂😂
Tommy Gun!
Total 🐂💩
Tommy didn’t have a weak chin, he was hit by some of the hardest hitters ever
He survived against George Foreman....
Exactly
Fr I never understood how someone who was KO'd 3 times only 1 time out cold could be a glass jaw
Ill never forget that knockout by Mercer. Jeez it was wild, I think Tommy had his brain fried after that. Mercer was a mean cunt, I hated him and I was well glad when Larry Holmes beat him in his next match.
supposedly took the w from foreman with a broken jaw (can't confirm, just saw it in another comment lol)
@@frizzyred1292
I agree everyone hates the referee for how that bout ended (deservedly) but Mercer had to know Tommy was out after, say, 3 punches
Tommy Morrison fought 7 rounds with a broken jaw and still beat George Foreman.
Correction Joe Hipp
You mean 44years old out of shape barely moving Foreman then yes
@@rimgaudaskairys1553 Yea, George was 45 when he beat Michael Moorer for a title.
@@rimgaudaskairys1553 You obviously misinterpreted my initial comments.
I wasn't praising his boxing skills
@@rimgaudaskairys1553 44year old foreman was a scary guy
Rimgaudas Kairys foreman said himself he’d have beaten his younger self.
I met Tommy and his then wife years ago on a cruise to the Caribbean. Literally hung out with him all week. My whole life I was a big bodybuilder and thats how we got talking. Tommy was an extremely nice guy - as well as being very generous. He actually spent about $1,000 in a casino teaching me how to play blackjack. He did party his ass off as well. I carried him to his room a few late nights that week. I asked him point blank about being HIV and he said getting syringes was hard back then and he used to inject steroids and he and a few of his gym buddies would share needles.
At the end of the week we swapped info and for quite some we called each other or wrote letters. Very cool guy and definitely had some demons
Crazy how small this world can be sometimes lmao that’s awesome
@@Italian.stallion.15 🧢
@@Crunchykyle lol I felt that too
@@Crunchykyle only in your small world :/
@@jakeedwards4454 🧢 🧢 🧢
He held the WBO heavy weight title in 1993, three years after Rocky 5. That's a huge accomplishment even if it was brief.
Great boxer, and youre right. Tommy accomplished a lot, and despite losing to some of the bigger names in the sport, he had a great career. I hope hes at peace now.
I went to school with Tommy's two sons, I remember seeing him come into the student center before he passed. Both of his sons are boxing now and both undefeated.
Yeah they are. I was going to mention his sons then I seen your comment. They look just like their dad used to look too.
I went to Jay High School with Tommy he was a great dude. Kept in touch with him for a while after he went to prison. Still a great friend in my book. Nobody's perfect. 🤘
Yeah undefeated against nobodies.
@@derekhawkcherokeefire did he really get a football scholarship?
@JackBauer137 it explains why he got pushed into steroid use and Other Drugs.
Literally. One of the saddest sports stories ever. RIP TOMMY " THE DUKE" MORRISON
one of the greatest - damn these morons pissed me of -
What about boxer Nigel Benn? That’s probs the saddest.. just cause he survived but had suffered half veg. The rest of his left with the loss of all support from companies that once backed him
utopianfurbiscuit you mean Gerald McClellan? He’s the one that ended up handicapped by Nigel Benn.
@@utopianfurbiscuit you’re talking about mcclelan who was a shitbag
Tommy Gun was the closest thing to a white Mike Tyson. He had the KO factor.
Tommy Morrison is under rated
Was. He's dead
He's rated about right
If you consider steroids worthy of rating.
I bet Ronnie Coleman could have knocked Morrison's head CLEAN OFF, but obviously he could never make the test.
@@SovereignStatesman Every world class athlete in a physical sport is juiced.
@@BatMan-fg8kc Not George Foreman.
Morrison wouldn't stand a chance against him otherwise.
Tommy “the Duke” Morrison will be remembered in my mind as a great pro boxer, the duke had the potential to have been much better then he was. Which says a lot about the dukes awesome boxing skills while focused, an no matter how great your skills are you have to take care and love yourself. Which not many do
“Tragic tale of Tommy Morrison” 30 seconds in “imagine if you got ass cancer from being too lazy to squat” 🤦🏼♂️😂
😂😂😂😂😂
i had to check if i clicked on the wrong video lmao
oh shit im late for work
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Yeah except Joe was referring to chicks who get ass implants not Tommy.
"Chicken of boxing" guy won a world title in a very hard era! And beat some good guys man.
it was a reference to a comedian with that nickname with a similar story in certain aspects. not saying he was a chicken
@@justinw947 he also said he wasn't very good...
Morrison was a good fighter. I dont see how people who have never fought or at least not at that level can even pass comment.
@@anthrobson1144 facts
@@anthrobson1144 Morrison wasn't only just good, he had the potential to be great. Massive puncher. RIP
ESPN did a 30 for 30 documentary on Tommy Morrison. It was very good.
hope it's still on
Just watched it 👌🏻
stonecoldku is it on UA-cam?
@@ivantapia2611 Not that I can find. There are other videos on him on UA-cam, but the ESPN 30 for 30, the only way I know (there may be other ways) how to get it is to sign up for ESPN+. I believe that all the 30 for 30s from ESPN are on that streaming service.
It was a good documentary. Sad what eventually happened to him.
I met Tommy Morrison in 2003 at a night club I was bouncing at in Hattiesburg, MS. His wife's best friend was getting deployed from camp shelby and they came to see her off. We hung out and drank with him all night, super nice guy.
How did he look back then??
@@capoislamort100 probably like and AIDS patient
How stunning and brave of you
@@bonjovi7120you need a clown costume because you're a clown
Tommy was a good friend of mine. We have a video on you tube together working mitts at my old condo.. He had it all and lost it all in such little time..but he was honestly one of the nicest dudes ever..and had tremendous punching power. When I had him over I made him a dozen and a half eggs, bacon and almost an entire loaf of bread. Then not even an hour after that wanted to go to Dominos. Lol He gladly met a few of my friends with open arms and we had great times together. Miss him dearly
@Munze Konza Thank you
Sorry man 🥹
He was _absolutely_ on his way to the pinnacle of success. I believe his career was deliberately sabotaged by the evil men in control of the fight game, due to his larger-than-life persona and the threat it posed to the propagation of their 'narrative'. I would like to have the resources to investigate his entire life and every person who had an influence in his personal life or control over his money and find names of all the bad people involved. Do you have any odd stories to share, that might shed light on my "conspiracy" theory? Thanks and my most sincere, belated condolences.
@@TerminusHostilia TYSON WOULD HAVE KNOCKED HIM OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND
@@jennycraig99 Tommy would have knocked you out in the first ten seconds
I was a bartender at a nightclub in Biloxi, Ms and Tommy was in town for a week for a fight. He came in the club every night and could barely walk because the women were all over him. He was jacked af and looked like a golden god but was really down to earth and treated everybody like a friend. He drank like a fish and would be wasted by closing time which was 2:00 am. He drank double gin and orange juice. Can't imagine how horrendous his hangovers had to be. Easy to understand how he came down with hiv and stds. The women went insane over him.
Yeh he sure seemed to have it all…I remember rocky five came out my first year in college and I was trying to go out with this girl and for some reason all she talked about was him….he was only about three years older than I was…..he was a handsome guy and he was handsome in a really particular way, he seemed to have it all, even after all these years it’s painful to look back on how it ended…
The germ came from the needle, not the women.
@ Respected Local Gentleman roids?
@@novelaego2404 No. Heroin.
They used to load him into back of a pickup and take him to the gym like that. He would be so drunk/hungover, that they couldn't get him into the cab.
I dont really like when Joe talks fighting with guys who know almost nothing about it.
Same
its very painful to watch
@Martin England well more than these morons.
@Martin England jeeez sorry who made you the moderator there karen.
@Martin England no reply there Karen??
Why has nobody made a biopic about Tommy yet? Would make an amazing yet depressing film
THIS!!!
Rocky 5
Tommy had a hell of a left hook
Yes.. Impressive
Very true!!!!
The time he caught Razor Ruddock in their fight was one of the best one punch knockdowns ever.
Nigel Sanford does it make u feel good when u talk shit
true
"Imagine getting ass cancer because you're too lazy to do squats..." LMAO
Joe, by the way, Tommy was a HW champ. He and Foreman fought for the vacated WBO. He won another belt too.
Long Days wasnt a major belt back then
AdmirLM10 he was a HW title holder. I mean, that’s the point entirely.
@@longdays5705 Yeah I was actually searching the comments to see if anyone points out this fact and once again Joe Rogan has no clue about boxing!! :P U know what im saying.Nah guys Tommy wasnt only a champ..he was a great champ 4 me at least.GO check it out he was the HW champion or a HW champion
allthough i think this was the only title he ever had ..but i think he held it twice(NOt 100 percent sure though) relax ma boy we all know back in the day WBO wasnt major but now it is and
1st point im sure Joe has no idea if it was minor or major he hasent even seen 1 fight of Tommy(except his first loss of course)
2nd point :All HWs who have held the WBO are considered former champs whether we like it or no (DO NOT ASK ME BABY ...ASK WIKIPEDIA....ARE you GUYS MORE KNOWLEDGABLE THAN WIKI.com¨??):P XD
Well said joe. Tommy was a tough , talented fighter who sadly just lost it and never recognized his true potential.
That Mercer KO was absolutely brutal. Morrison was out on his feet after a left connected and then ate 10 more shots before the ref stepped in. That ref should have been banned from boxing after that.
Morrison had won every round of that fight before the ko too. He just punched himself out. Mercer had a great chin and Tommy didn’t box smart that night
@@theonofswords3764 yep I remember Tommy hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink and Mercer ate them with a side of fries.
I can't even watch it. "The referee was afraid to get in the way" but that's senseless and I hope he still stays up nights tormented.
If memory serves he was the same ref who ten years earlier allowed the EXACT same thing to happen to Ken Norton when Cooney trapped him in a corner in a similar way…..check it out, I think it’s the same ref
@@decristo1021 you've got a great memory :)
Tommy has been one of my favorite fighters since I've seen Rocky V. Had one of the greatest left hooks in boxing history!
Morrison was a fuckin beast.... super tough... never seen another with his power and agility in the post 90 era
Lennox lewis.
Tyson Fury!
@@fobbitoperator3620 lol tyson fury is a fckn joke. The heavyweight division has been DEAD for 20+ years
@@McKurdi yeah after the 90s HW retired boxing is dead
The only one that springs to mind is Povetkin.
When I was in junior high and high school I did golden gloves. I worked out at a gym called "Bell recreation center" in Kansas City, Kansas this would have been when Tommy had about 3-4 pro fights under his belt. Tommy was the only pro fighter that worked out there, and him being from Jay, Oklahoma where my grandfather grew up we kind of hit it off, I was like 14-15 y.o. he helped me develop my left hook (I'm a southpaw) he was just a regular guy, that happened to be able to knock a guy's head clean off their body. Here is a bit of trivia you might not know. At 13 Tommy was competing, at the adult level, in tough man competitions and beating grown ass men. My personal feelings are that he had the absolute best left hook in the heavyweight division period full stop. It is just sad and tragic that he let the partying lifestyle kill his dreams.
I think doing what he did to grown men in those competitions at 13 is almost more impressive than anything in boxing, thats such an uneven matchup and he was still winning
It's a tragic story, but at the same time he hid his disease and went on to compete against people who had no idea of the risk they were taking. Luckily no one he faced contracted the virus, but that's still inexcusable.
sometimes you can have it but not be a person who can transmit it to others / i think
How come boxing transmits HIV to others?
@@AlfonsGunawan when u break the skin, blood comes out. blood on blood is how hiv is transferred
Since then, alot of fight promotions are required by the state to blood test the fighters. I think even WWE has to make their wrestlers take an HIV and Hepatitis blood test.
You can also get hiv from sperm and breast milk.
Wow. This really saddens me. I was just talking about Tommy Morrison the other day and was wondering about what he was up to nowadays. Had no idea that he lost that badly and fell off the deep end. Wasn't a big fan of Rocky V but Tommy did do a good job playing the bad guy in the end. Really sad to hear how his life ended :(
"Aye, yo, Tommy... I didn't hear no bell."
definitely one of Rocky's best lines in that movie!
My ring's outside...
@Charles Carter ….. yeah? Let’s do it!!!
Tommy Morrison I respect I feel for him and his family I followed him for a lot of years throughout his career from the toughman contest and through his prime a monstrous left hook he was born with tremendous speed tremendous talent a tremendous natural to acting on this big screen he was offered a four picture deal after Rocky v you turned it down to maintain his career in boxing lightning fast. Tremendous power and both hands it hurts my heart to know he did not get to to fill his career as he wanted his two sons are keeping the legacy alive I watched their videos highly impressive rest in peace great warrior for you are missed for your legacy lives on God bless
“Imagine being so lay you don’t do squats “
As he talks to two overweight people 🤣
Underrated comment😂
He's saying for girls who want big asses, they get ass implants instead of just doing squats which can lead to ass cancer. Your comment has no correlation to what he actually said and u didnt even quote him right
Professor Suge exactly those overweight guys don’t go out getting ab implants and weight loss surgery
@@professorsuge LEGIT!
What's funny is that Tom and Bert do workout. They just can't control diet. And Bert can't stop drinking lol.
Watching people watch something while they talk about what they’re watching but you can’t watch is literally torture
....but you can't stop watching.
I agree Chris, joe is so popular yet no one complains about this. That particular (or more aptly peculiar) characteristic is indeed torture. When I’m not in the mood to be annoyed (because it does) I can’t watch and just turn it off. Why doesn’t someone get in his ear about it- I guess cos not enough people tell him or feel this way. But well said!
@iamthebroker
The reason they avoid putting the video in the screen or audio, is because UA-cam constantly took their videos down because of copyright.
RobertBaratheon305 fair call and didn’t think about that. Perhaps others that do do it have cleared the copyright issue and those that haven’t at least don’t watch it in front of us and react as they do- I think that’s the naturally annoying thing. I’d prefer they just reference it without watching it.... but thanks for the explanation.
@iamthebroker
I agree it’s very annoying. This channel is so big that they can’t get away with any infringements. Rogan talks about it on the podcast all the time.
Boxing fans: What a train wreck Mike Tyson was!
Tommy Morrison: Hold my beer!
FRANKIE FRANK Both were highly skilled, yet highly undisciplined . Just imagine what their peak versions could’ve been if they had discipline
FRANKIE FRANK but theirs a big difference Tyson had the potential to become the greatest boxer of all time Tommy at best could’ve become a good heavyweight champion for 3 years
@@hornydolphin7953 your kidding right? Tommy had as much potential as Tyson. He was a party animal and relied soley on his natural boxing ability to bail him out his entire career. Had he been disciplined he would've been a HOF heavyweight period.
@phillip martin Tyson and Morrison are more similar than you think. Both burned out due to their lives out of the ring. Morrison partied hard and did steroids on top of that. His body was taking on a tough workload.
@phillip martin I guess when you're jacked and knocking guys out left and right you feel like God and untouchable. I think the Mercer KO fucked up Morrison's head badly and caused him to go off the deep end like he did with muscle implants, meth addiction, and all that shit. There's a documentary on UA-cam where he was trying to make a comeback in 2007. He was mentally fucked in the head, literally.
I wanted the Tyson vs. Morrison fight so bad! He deserves respect due a champ one of the greatest left hooks in boxing.
That's got nothing on the tragic tale of Darth Plagueis the wise
Darth Vader plagueis was an idiot. He literally told his trainee, the only way you'll get promoted is if you kill your trainer. Then woke up one day dead and acted all surprised because his trainee killed him. Like dude what'd you expect after saying some shit like that
Ion think he woke up
@@sammyborhap He said that because, plagueis believed he had cracked the code to immortality. He thought he had nothing to fear. Not even the rule of two.
Freddy Gilmore he could save the ones he loved but not himself
*ironic*
@Prophetorium do you think they called him "the wise" to be sarcastic? lol
Joe seems to have watched every boxing match ever with Kevin James.
Ikr lmao tbf I don’t doubt it they did live with each other for a long time and they both love boxing
What boxing-match had Kevin James?
"Touch me and I'll Sue"
@Bill Ding a quote from Rocky
Merry Christmas Billy
Lol Yeah he knew that.
"Sue me for what?" Was Rocky's line
Lol george washington duke
Wrong scene/ dude
My rings outside...
Thank god Joe at least knows what he is talking about…. These other clowns have no business talking about boxing when they haven’t got a clue about it! Tommy was not only a complete savage in the ring, dude was a humble, hard working guy.
Big up Joe for being the only one to say anything credible
A lot of people overlook it, but Tommy fought a really smart bout against Foreman and actually looked like a solid boxer. Just one more lessen, in this sport, of what could have been. The history of boxing is littered with such lessons.
Tommy Morrison had one of the best left hooks in boxing at that time.
Of all time 🤘🏻
Ever
So Tommy basically played himself in Rocky 5.
He was actually playing more of a parody Mike Tyson.
I didnt even know the guy in Rocky 5 was a real boxer.
@@TheGrimmCommoner Yeah at the time, but after Tommy signed with Don King it became much more life imitating art. Tommy was in real life almost a dead ringer for Tommy Gunn, although I will say I never carried Tommy Morrison out of a bar for drinking milk,.
Yup, Exactly. My family knew his team and him as he knew my family in the game and the saying from his team is they always took a sy of relief when they would get him to the arena. The local bar owners would call them and say Come down here and get your boy off the floor before the local news shows up. Wild
@@joshbouman1654 It's funny because Morrison fought a guy who looked just like the Russian boxer in Rocky IV.
Tommy Morrison was the second biggest waste of raw talent and potential in heavyweight boxing. He had top tier fundamental skills, great flexibility, fluidity, balance, timing and coordination. he had other worldly knockout power in both hands, and his left hook was probably the greatest of all time. He knew how to throw that damn left hook, both long range and short range. A superb offensive fighters(one of the greatest in terms of offensive capability). What he did not have were the three D's- discipline, direction and dedication to his craft. Tommy loved to party, and he partied all the time. He never focused after a point, on boxing. He partied literally all day, all year, and it not only stunted and eventually stopped his career, but it also killed him. Its just such a sad story. He could have been so great!
@Iceman 23 Riddick Bowe. He could have been the greastest of all time. He had everything- size, reach, height, strength, cardio, chin, the ability to box from the outside and was such a great inside fighter for a man of his size. But he was focussed only for the Holyfield fight, he just wasted his time and overate apart from that and did not focus. Its sad really, he really had all the tools and the ability to be an all time great(he kinda still is but you get my point). The Bowe who fought Holyfield in the first fight could have beaten any heavyweight to ever live imho.
Well said!
“This guy should.” ....that was savage asf lmao
So these GOOFs didnt realize how good of a fighter Tommy was? wow
Joe did.
Joe the only one with a brain. Other than Joe, they're all stupid and pointless. Shittest excuses for careers.
@@douglasjay9561 yea Idek who these 2 our ive seen them but can't really remember them lol
@@douglasjay9561 They are also making fun of Morrison’s looks, yet look at them, fat, bald, and that skinny dude looks like a Walker from the Walking Dead, lol.
@@Galactusz007 yeah ikr pathetic idiots.
I met Tommy Morrison's best friend about 7 years ago...he was my weed man for a good 2 years. He told me all kinds of fucked up shit that happened to Tommy. Met tommy a few times, boxed at his gym here in Wichita a time or 2. He tried to recruit me but I was well past wanting to be a boxer anymore. He seemed like a nice guy. RIP Tommy
I believe his career was deliberately sabotaged by the evil men in control of the fight game, due to his larger-than-life persona and the threat it posed to the propagation of their 'narrative'. I would like to have the resources to investigate his entire life and every person who had an influence in his personal life or control over his money and find names of all the bad people involved.
I recommend watching a documentary on Tommy Morrison. His story is pretty incredible. Guy was a savage in his youth, and fell hard.
Tommy stopped taking his HIV medication and started to party again that was his down fall. If he'd of taken care of himself he might still be here.
Did he really have HIV?
@@kerambeach he certainly did my friend he lost his boxing license because of it. Once that happened he lost all his so called friends and hangers on. Tommy life is a sad story but mostly self inflicted.
@@howey935 his wife is on a legal battle to prove he never had HIV, she doesn't have HIV neither.
Some bad ref let an opponent just pound his ass (Ray Mercer) was bad beating because was out on his feet and used as a punching bag .
@RIXXIEN RIZEN and what happened to him??
I grew up in KCMO and I was able to witness Tommy spar @ authentic boxing club. His punches sounded like fastballs at a MLB game. He had great combinations, especially body to head. My dad was a veteran and befriended his chief sparring partner, Brian " BamBam " Scott. I won't bother with the negative talk about HIV,partying, etc. Tommy is a product of the game. I felt like he was a wasted potential, but I am grateful that I got to witness him in his prime.
Seeing Ari at 0:02 thinking it was Joe Rogan legit startled the shit outta me.
young Jaime shouldn't do that to us
One of the best left hooks in boxing
1:40
"This guy should"
LOL what a savage response
Now.,that's a cowardice response.
Nah that guy is a major pussy and his uglyass wife cheated on him with Theo von
@@johnnyespalahento2431 really? Scandalous. Source?
@@everythingismediocre Yeah watch the video, even theo von talked about it ua-cam.com/video/XE-3O3VXdHo/v-deo.html
Tommy Morrison is the perfect example of having it all to losing it all that quickly.
sex,hard drugs,booze and punches to the head did tommy in
"You knock him down, why don't you try knockin me down now".
I want my respect!!!!
Well come n get it....
I needed to scroll far too down this comments page before finding a Rocky reference. UA-cam, sort yourself out.
Tommy Morrison was a great fighter..he just had some personal issues and did not find his way out...it could happen to anyone...we are all just one bad decision away from sinking..
Amazing boxer. Had all The talent in The world. Strong and explosiv and had a nasty left hook
Thanks to steroids.
@OSU. 1 .BETTA. Yes. Yes they do.
And no, no they weren't.
You're just stupid.
“I didn’t hear no bell”
"You knocked him down. Why don't you try and knock ME down now? My ring's outside."
HarpoTheVillain Ding Ding
@CARLOS MANDOZA "Yo Paulie. What does 'cojones' mean?"
"Cojones? Cojones is Latin for 'Spanish nuts'."
HarpoTheVillain “So much glass in his jaw he could be a chandelier”
Mr Boxing one more round
Tommy had 4 negative test after originally testing positive and there has been a case opened March this year
Tommy Morrison was a genuine person
Tommy was a hell of a fighter, made it to the top and definitely had his demons. Sad turn towards the end of his life, that Ray Mercer fight was the start of the end. Also, Ari is a bitch.
Tommy beat Foreman and a belt after he lost to Mercer. Two fights later was when his career went bad aside from Razor Ruddock KO win
@@JRLs_Random_Reviews touche my brother. I just hate Ari is all
Tommy Gun, that guy was a beast. What a sad story.
The Sinister Left Hook of Tommy, was beaten by A sinister Hooker who left.
A very truthful and well worded statement
@@raydraiz1859 Appreciated, thanks.
Ray Draiz
That’s been a saying for years.
@@seanwilks7712 no. I made it up. Prove you heard it before.
Roy Hemion
Ok, come to the gym i train at.
The mercer ko was one of the nastiest ko's I had ever seen before mvp got knocked out
Man my pecs are sore AF cos I got back to the gym,
Monday was my first day back.
So the idea of someone patting my chest is enough to make me cry.
Keep it up bro good luck
Pussy
Why would it hurt? cause you're in tahiti?
Joe Rogan and his circle of brilliance.
Reznik did a great little tribute video called Tommy Morrison - The Rising Sun. The Grave shots are sad. Gone too soon, Duke. His life could be made into a Hollywood movie. Supposedly related to John Wayne, girls getting his number, two wives, steroid use (he wasn't the only one..) and was in a Hollywood picture.
That was a beautiful video
Tommy Morrison was phenomenal in Rocky V absolutely brilliant
I really think that if Mercier had stopped punching him after he was out, or the ref had stopped the fight earlier, Tommy Morrison life wouldn't have been so tragic after this.
Tommy was out before he hit the ground. It's the ref's job to stop the fight; otherwise you're supposed to protect yourself at all times.
@@SovereignStatesman and its refs job to protect the fighters
@@SovereignStatesman So you're supposed to protect yourself even when you're already unconscious, right?
@@succ6639 ONLY when the fighter can't continue. Otherwise it's interference.
I've seen it happen, and a fighter got KO'ed while the ref interfered.
@@tizianocolona6582 I said OTHERWISE.
The ref stopped the fight as soon as he could, but steroids are bad news.
-"Daddy, we love you, please talk to us,tell us your last words, at least tell us one word". - "JAAAAAAACKED".
There will come a time in your life where you will feel the lowest possible... Being that you're about to go under, but then youll remember these words. Hmmm.
Have seen every Morrison fight possible. Was so bummed when he had his first loss and of course his KO loss to Mercer too. Kind of figured he would lose to Lewis. Was a huge fan of Tommy's. #TCB
TM had one of THE BEST left hooks ever in Boxing!!!
I prefer the tragic tale of Darth Plaguis the wise
He should have just transferred his life force like Rey the OP! /s
The darkest secret in boxing history
Not much of a secret when there a million view documentaries
@@sfdko3291 but only a handful of people know the real truth
secret....the peck implants?
There are darker secrets like the tragedy of the man that was sonny Liston... joe Louis vs the irs.
Everything that happened to tommy Morison was his fault. No one else to blame.
Muhammad Ali being the pedophile that he was is a bigger secret I'd say.
Rocky 5 was awesome. Nothing beats a good street fight!!!
I saw Tito Ortiz back in the day at a Caseys in Des Moines and he had his belt on turned backwards. It was when he was the UFC Champ. I thought it was cool. However, now that I am older it seems really weird he had his championship belt on at a gas station in Iowa.
Man this is so creepy just watched rocky v and was looking into him then boom Rogan just comes outta nowhere
Thats happened to me before
My dad was a teacher in Jay, Ok in the early 90s. A friend of my dad’s was good friends with Tommy Morrison.
I love the podcast. Show what your talking about so we can actually see it too. Carry on.
One very underrated boxer
Morrison was my neighbor. He moved to Tennessee for Tenncare to cover his treatments.
My cousin moved to Wisconsin for Badgercare. Gotta do what you gotta do.
@John Rambo yeah but make sure it says longstroke champion on it. Your wife knows how to spell my name so make sure you get it right
@Happy Man I think that goes without saying
Did you see any mad things happen with him when you were neighbours?
@@frizzyred1292 not really man, he was already in pretty serious decline and he knew it. He tried to get a fight or two in west Virginia where they didn't require blood testing for fighters but no one was really willing to fight him and take that chance with an ex champion or a chance on getting HIV for chicken scraps and I think it just fizzled out from there. He was a nice guy, I felt like he knew he was in pretty serious decline and just wanted to mentor someone and feel like he was making the most of what he had left
have a good xmas everyone
Merry Christmas
Fuck off
Likewise jesus
@@igogoplatayobitch7566 love the name😂
@@barrylawrie6354 happy holidays*
Morrison had an impressive record : 52 fights, 49 wins
I got to meet Tommy Morrison (We’re both from Tulsa). One of the greatest experiences of my life. He was a truly sweet guy. He also gave me some good life advice about Drugs, Unprotected Sex, and Ego.
Joe: the guy I know killed himself...
Tom: the guy I know should.
Everyone: laughs 🤣🤣🤣
"joe's buddy"?
bro thats tom segura
Morbid humor and it was funny.
such a quick shift that all the sad immediately left the room
LMFAOOOO
When I was in the Air Force, guy in the next dorm room was from Maysville, AR (right on the AR / OK border). One time he showed us a school yearbook (not sure what school), and Tommy Morrison was in his yearbook. I was like, "Dude! You went to school with Tommy Morrison!".
This was back when Morrison was a big deal in boxing still.
Tommy went to school in Jay, OK. Small town a out 10 miles from Maysville, AR.
Tommy was starching adults in toughman contests when he was 14 or 15
Razor Ruddock trains out of Sully's gym in Toronto l'm a boxing trainer you should have him on you pod cast Joe just ask
He'd have some great stories for sure
Razor was one of the most underated of his time
@walt charamba agree 100%,
I'm with Razor Ruddock at Sully's gym in Toronto ask for Tulio l know for a fact he would love to be on Joe's pod cast he tells me funny stories about him and Tyson and other fighters.So if anyone knows Joe call Sully's gym and thanks for replays guys
@walt charamba your so right Canada doesn't support their fighters like American
Probably the best left hook ever
Tommy Morrison was beating they hell out of Ray Mercer but then Gassed out in the 4th, and Ray Beat the hell out of him in the 5th.
Ye. That's def what Joe said as well. Thanks for the recap
@walt charamba ruddock*
Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 Tyson, Evander were all on Steroids. Tyson at least admitted to it, he said he used a fake penis to pass the drug test lol
Rocky 5 was so underrated. Not the greatest flick, but worth a watch
I was looking for the comment saying rocky 5 is trash because it is
@@stanleynelson1643 deffinitly the worst of the original 5
@@weaponsxpert87 worse than Balboa too
Rocky 5 and Rocky Balboa are the saddest movies out of all the series. I didn't like watching it as a kid because that's when rocky loses everything and all he had to offer was his love and training. Then it wasnt even focused on his son who was getting bullied and actually needed the love and training. I just related to it too much and didnt like it portrayed in a movie. Dont like reliving those memories
"Ass Cancer" also happens to be the name of my heavy metal band.
Stop dissing Tommy Morrison
Tommy Gunn. He was so good in rocky, had that it factor.
Tommy won the wbo heavyweight title after the mercer loss plus the ibc world title.
Tyson Morrison was supposed to happen.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Tommy Morrison the addict?
He was so powerful he could even save people he loved... from getting natural pecs... *Evil head turn*
Meet Tommy under some circumstances I won't get into. But I did put a big smile on his face when I reacted Rocky's line to him. "Hey yo, Tommy I thought we was brothers" meet him in Sevierville Tennessee
MTV's True Life had so many crazy episodes.
When Joe brought up George Foreman, one of the other guys should've said "George Foreman was 76 years old when they fought!"
listen closely, one of them says george foreman was 74....
Joe “imagine him versus Francis” Rogan
"I think Francis could knock out the moon if he got a chance to hit it"
Joe "I jerk off to Ngannou" Rogan
Nick Anglin I lol’d to this
Tommy Morrison was a beast, also I live in the same city as Tim Silvia and can confirm he wore his belt everywhere, even to the grocery store.