Kawasaki Ninja 400 vs Ninja 650 - Complete In Depth Comparison
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2022
- The Kawasaki Ninja 400 and the Kawasaki Ninja 650 are both twin cylinder sport bikes from Kawasaki that are designed to be a blast to drive on the roads. They look similar, but there are key differences that may make one better for you than the other. In this video I help you decide which one might best for you! Want to see these bikes in person? Connect with the amazing team at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports here: powersports.wheelsanddeals.ca...
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I actually have both, year 2020. Originally had a 2018 Ninja 400 but got caught up in what people were saying about "growing out of" the bike and ended up getting a 2008 GSXR 600. The 600 definitely put a smile on my face that was missing from the 400 but I just missed how comfortable, flickable, and forgiving the 400 was. I sold the GSXR and bought another Ninja 400 and was fine again but missed that power. The ninja 650 id say gives that smile to my face while still being comfortable and easy to handle, not ninja 400 easy, but easy enough. Some days I feel like taking the 400 over the 650, most days its the opposite. If I could only pick one, I would keep the 650 but I would say you can't go wrong either way.
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I keep hoping to find a clean low mileage 2019 400 with the black/red/white color scheme.
Ya know buying helmet and jacket and cloves that complement the bike then trade to a totally new color scheme with the old colors gets old.
I had not thought if a wrap. No I'm not into pink. My 250 is red and white. My 300 is white with a purple tank pad and purple reflective wheel rim stripes. I added a green wind fin under the ferring. Shorty shift and break levers are red. Rear spools are red. Small soft german bags rear bags very pricy around 500 bucks but they won't fall into the rear wheel well because of stays that clip into brackets on the rear foot pegs. Found a plug and play rear rack and mounted a small trunk fits full size helmet and gloves it is white with large red reflector on back. Added home made black sheepskin seat cover since it's very hot in the summer. It's perfect. Changed the original foot pegs to same as on my 240 with the rubber foot pad. I have a tall smoke wind shield for cooler weather and use an irrodesent in summer, a real eye catcher. It's all about being seen so ya don't get run over. Also added 1 1/2 inch blocks under handle bars to raise them a bit more comfortable. Had the bike lowered three inches, I'm short. Doesn't throw off the dynamics of going into curves. Put better tires on more aggressive for laying into curves. They are Michelin city sports with a side to side tread which runs better on top of rain cruves traditional treads follow the rain gruves which feels like riding on ice, don't like that. Still haven't mounted my green light strips up under the fairing. Changed out the original lower fairing parts which say Kawasaki. They were white with black writing. Found a nice pair on ebay exactly the same but had the red accent under the kawasaki. Made a nice added touch. I like eye catching touches. I sometimes change my wind shield out to my neon green. Now that catches the eye. Gotta be seen. I would post a picture but I don't know how to do that. Don't know how much longer I'll be riding. I turn 70 in April. Used to do all the work on my 250. Work in my driveway. But doing valves is time consuming. The only thing I didn't tackle on my 250 was the tripple tree. I didn't want to get extra tools so I had the front springs replaced with progressive springs. Really improved the ride. Changed the main shock with an adjustable racing shock. All the bikes have a small racing battery which puts out more power. I carry an automatic pump and slime to take care of a flat which has happened several times. Nails and screws are abundant on the roads because of so much construction here. Ya'll be safe riding.
did u try the new zx4rr already? it seems even better - sweet spot kink?
I just got a 2019 Ninja 400 as my first bike. I had never ridden a motorcycle before I hopped on it. I was blown away by how easy it is to ride. Even as a larger rider (6'2 290 lbs) it is very comfortable and doesn't seem to lack power in the slightest. The gears are long and the power delivery is just perfect.
Yeah, the Ninja 400 and Z400 are the bikes that I recommend the most to new riders. They're easy to learn on, but you can spend decades mastering them. Lots of fun, for sure!
after riding the 400 for a bit, being that ur a bigger guy do you feel that the 400 is only good enought just because you started?
You know being 5'8 and 265 this makes me feel a little better about possibly buying a 400. Thank you!
@@Will-fi9xvBeing that I'm in the same shopping boat and a guy who's almost 6'2" and 240#, I went to a dealership and sat on both the 400 and the 650, the 400 is def light, even while stationary, you can lean it sideways with ease, while the 650 is not as light (you feel a little heft to it), you can still lean it back and forth. What I've found to be a bigger difference is that for a taller guy, on a 400 your torso, is "sticking up", the bike looks small for a bigger guy, and the legs and knees feel more crouched. The 650 feels more comfortable for a bigger guy, you feel like you're "inside" the bike rather than sitting"on" and sticking up from the bike, leg positioning also feels more relaxed, I'd suggest you go sit on both, evaluate your seating and comfort, and have someone take a pic of you on both, see which one you like more.
Me and you are literally about the same size, how is it on the interstate?
My 650 has been my daily for well over a year now. I did own a 400...the 650 has better brakes and is more comfortable. Buy the bike that speaks to you. For me the 650 is the one i preferred.
This is by far the best channel on UA-cam. The in-depth comparisons are off the chart. I’ve owned 10 bikes in my life. Started on a Ninja 250. Then a Njnja 300. Then an 09 Ninja 650. Then I graduated to HD. 4 of them. Softail Slim, Road Glide, a 14 CVO Road King then to an 18 Road King special. In-between I bought a 15 Ninja ZX-6r because I got a great deal on it and wanted to see what the hype was all about with the supersport bikes. By far, the worst bike I owned was the ZX-6r. Those are track bikes ONLY. Not made for casual street riding. Extremely uncomfortable body position for the everyday casual street ride. Your back starts to tighten up and fingers go numb etc. It’s extremely boring because I can do 60 in 1st gear easily. You’re not running through the gears like the smaller displacement bikes allow you too, which builds skill and throttle control. You never outgrow a bike lol. When they say this, what they’re telling you is, my ego wants to make me look like I’m a big boy on a big boy bike. Last I checked, there are speed limits EVERYWHERE in the United States. Go 30mph over the limit and get caught and see what happens. Arrested, bike impounded, lose your license, big ticket fines, dropped by your insurance company(good luck in the future finding an insurance company that will take you without raping you), exorbitant legal fees by the time you’re finished paying your attorney to get you out of this mess. By far the most fun I had was on the 250/300 simply because of their all around versatility and lightweight. That’s why I’m getting a Njnja 400. These smaller displacement bikes are GOLD. Everything you need in an affordable, reliable package and the best thing about this bike is the lightweight and nimbleness. I’m 52 now and don’t want a heavy bike anymore. It’s just that simple. Spend 25-30k on an HD before you even switch out exhaust, bars, etc and there’s another 5k before you’ve even ridden it out the door. Money pits and they weigh hundreds of pounds. They’re really only good for long distance cruising. Overpriced and expensive to repair and maintain. Trust me, I’ve owned 4. Thanks for these reviews and keep up the great work
Thanks for your kind words! And thanks for sharing your experiences!
Believe it or not, I opted for the 2024 650. Bought it today. Wanted the meatier bike, better torque and it just felt better, more comfortable for me. I’m stoked
I was looking at these 2 a bit ago. Ended up going with the 650 mainly because of my height and weight. Im 6ft4 about 210lbs. After riding both on the highway, (my commute and where i live im looking at about 20-30 mins on the highway alone one way no matter where i go) the 650 gives me a little more wind protection and its a little more comfy with the weight and how the wind affects it on the highway, especially since where i am, the highway is surrounded by empty plains so alot of wind.
Theyre both great bikes, but i found my comfort with the 650. I also raised mine a tiny bit for comfort!
Getting ready to buy a bike and I’m literally almost the exact same size as you😂. I’m 6’4 220 so it’s great hearing from someone the same size talking about comfort!
@hunterwright4690 Haha cheers man! Glad the info helped! Did the legwork for you LOL. Hope you find something comfy!!
Great video! Thank you for the professionalism and objectivity. One thing to consider for track riders is track availability between the two. I did research for 3 months and even got a job at a used bike and car lot as a detailer just to ride the bike inventory and get a feel for them as I had to move them to the curb everyday and lap them to keep the battery charged. I rode everything from 250's to 1800's, sports and cruisers and after three months and about 40 bikes it came down to the ninja 400 or the Suzuki 650. While the 650 wasn't a ninja, it let me get a taste for class. The ninja edged out the Suzuki in feel and response and when a local track owner told me I could run my 400 for 20 dollars a day, all day on school days, I did some calling around and found the 400 accepted on many smaller tracks that are cheaper and ghosted during school hours. The 400 really is the king of the track and has given me the opportunity to really learn how to ride.
In the end it is all about preference. I prefer to "jackrabbit" around town, so that quick upfront response, coupled with the light weight and nimble nature of the 400 is perfect for me. I'm not having fun on short pulls worrying about my safety or a ticket. I like to bounce, pounce, turn and be gone. The 400 challenges me to take authority over my machine and develope my skills in full potential. Ego seems to crave drive fast in a straight line. Money cannot buy skill.
The beautiful thing about bikes, there is one for everyone and just find what speaks plainly to you, not your onlookers, you're riding it, not them. 🏍️
Ohhhh.... I almost forgot; I also drive a canyon and one thing I wanted was to put a Snap Treehouse camper on my truck and put a carrier on the back hitch to carry my ninja. The weight of the 400 helps to consider my payload demands when camper, bike, supplies and potentially two adult occupants. While the carrier insures a 600 pound capacity, I like to keep it light to compensate for unexpected bumps so that a bounce isn't an issue in highway travel. Travel, see a track, get out and ride. The 400 is welcomed, the 650 has to find a raceway. Nice Go-kart tracks are great for the 400.
Carry on 😂
I recently picked up a slightly used ninja 400. I had been going back and forth between the 400 and the 650 and a deal popped up on a 400. I recently took it to a track day and found out that it’s plenty fast for me. Maybe someday I’ll look at the 650, but the 400 is enough for now.
At the track I got a chance to ride a new Yamaha MT-07 which is somewhat similar to the 650 - that bike didn’t feel as nimble as my 400 and I didn’t like it as much.
I also believe the weight of the 650 might be a bit much for me. I’m a 5’8” female and I can feel the weight of the 400.
There are no right or wrong choices here - just two great bikes to choose between. Pick one and go have fun!
I love your comment! Thanks for sharing!
I really like those in depth reviews, nice details! Keep it up !
Thanks so much for your kind words! Feel free to subscribe! There are a lot of great bikes that I still want to review, and bikes like these that I'll come back to again and again.
All I can say is thank you! thank you for this review, very informative. Just gained a subscriber 🙂
That's awesome! I really appreciate it!
Great video! You explain things very articulately and easy to grasp like the concept of cc. Subbed! 🙌
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Nice thorough comparison review, thanks! Great details that you cover including sitting on the bike and the comfort, which is crucial when riding for hours. I went from Ninja 250s (over 15 years) to the '21 Ninja 650. They're both agile in steering IMO, but with the torque and acceleration HP advantage to the 650. Both great choices though, and the 400 can easily handle average freeway riding, though the 650 has no problems going faster up hills to pass on the freeway, while my prior 2003, 2008 250Rs struggled to gain more speed up hills.
Great video! Got my 2022 ninja 650 a few months back and love it. Has everything I need.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experiences! I really appreciate it!
Took me ages to decide between the two. Price wasn’t a deciding factor. The 400 was just so much more playful and engaging. I’ve owned the ninja 1400 and 1000. The 400 is by far my favourite. I could go on all day.
Thank you for your comment! This is exactly why I tell people that outgrowing a bike is a false understanding of motorcycles! Sure, some people want more speed and may move up from a 400. But a lot of people want the most fun, and that can easily be the 400.
@@PeterLoweOne I agree. I think you need at some point the experience of what a powerful bike has to offer. To me, that did get boring quickly. I owned the 1400 and the 400 at the same time, more than 90% of the time I would grab the 400 because outside absolute mind blowing speed, the 400 wins in every aspect, especially fun factor. I find the 400 engine to hit the sweet spot for everyday riding.
@@florme6494 I totally agree. As a touring bike, I can see adding some power, but yeah, the 400 is pure fun at any speed while the 1400 needs speed to bring fun.
Beginner here, why do you like the 400 more? most people i’ve talked to say more cc = better
@@CaraCreations1000 weight.
I have 2022 Ninja 400, I'm 48 and it's my first bike I've ever ridden. I can't say enough about it. Handles, rides nice, great speed. I have no interest in going up a bike model, I'd easily get another 400. No such thing as our growing a bike. Ride what you love and what's comfortable to you.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing! I love hearing from people who "get it". For years dealers and even manufacturers used to talk about "out growing" a bike in order to plant the seed that people need to buy a small bike first, and move up in the future. The reality is that there are plenty of great reasons to start on a smaller displacement bike, and there are plenty of great reasons to move on from your first bike, but "out-growing" a bike isn't a thing. Especially with a Ninja 400! It has plenty of power, it's got a unique feel to it that you can't replicate with bigger and heavier bikes, and it's FUN. I agree! Get what you love, and ride it! If you ever want a different bike, great! But you'll always appreciate the Ninja 400!
I'm 47 also have a' 22 400 for my first bike ! I love it !
this video was exactly what i needed to make a final decision on which one of the two to get, in my dreams. Thank you!
That's awesome! Feel free to subscribe! I'm not done filming these bikes! Out of curiosity, which one do you prefer?
@@PeterLoweOne subscribed! oh yeahhhh keep the videos coming in so i never have to buy the bikes XD my preference always changes really cant choose! i will just look at whichever one i can get the best price for second handed when Im ready to buy one in a year
Amazing video. Very insightful and well presented. Thanks!
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I like your video so much! That helps a lot! Are the 650 lights Led or not?Thanks
Hi Peter, I just subscribed to you channel since you really are great in comparing between bikes.
I’m still lost between the 2 bikes and can’t decide on which one should I get as my first bike. I got my license through the safety course and was riding an old 250 at the time.
The other day I went to a triumph demo and tried the Trident 660 and love it so much which made me think that I should go with the 650, my only concern is that I’m worried the 650 won’t be light or small enough to improve my skills as the 400 but I like the 650 more with all the extra options and the seating position and the looks and power.
I’m going crazy here 😂😂 please help 😅
Amazing video. I’ve been looking for a video like this for a little while. I’ve got a 1980 Goldwing that I’m wanting to keep but I want to add a sport bike. I think I’ve chose which I’m wanting to get after watching this!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
I just test rode these back-to-back, and your review is spot on. I noticed the 650 has a high frequency buzz near redline, while the 400 just feels great as the rpm's climb. If you're going legal speeds, the power is surprisingly similar. I came away liking the 650, but loving the 400.
I want to spend more time riding that 400. I've been on them in the past, but want more seat time in one. I've driven a bike (Versys) with the 650 engine for years, but I always tell people that there is something special about the 400 that you'll never get if you move up from there. That lightweight feel, and that overall package is excellent. I honestly don't know which one I'd choose if I had to choose between them. The 650 has a little more heel room on my right side for my size 11 shoes, it's the only thing I wish they'd tweak about the 400... but other than that, they're both really good! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@PeterLoweOne The obvious answer: Versys-400! Just wish they'd make it
@@robertkeil5220 I think people don't give the Versys X 300 it's due simply because the 400 motor has been out for a while in the newer Ninja. Having said that, I've advocated for a while to see a new 400 cc adventure class bike from Kawasaki for a while. Think of it as an evolution from the Versys 300 to a more modern, smaller displacement KLR that's lighter, but just as capable off-road while retaining some touring capabilities. I think that would be a BIG winner in the Adventure bike space. (I'd have to find a way to add one to my garage!!) Use that for go anywhere Touring, and my Z900RS as my road going sports bike with some style! That would be a dream garage for me!!
Just purchased mine 2023 ninja 400 krt can't wait for spring
The 650 is only 1/2 second quicker to 60 mph, and 15 mph faster top speed. Pretty underwhelming for a 250cc difference if you ask me. My 400 is great.
I love the 400. And you're right, unless you're going full throttle on the 650, there isn't as much difference as people would think in normal driving! Thanks for sharing your experiences! Feel free to subscribe!
Yes the N400 has great speed (for a 400). But I wouldn’t be buying this bike for speed, or even have that as a deciding factor vs the 650. I would say nimbleness and engagement are the two selling points. Throw in looks, value and that the fact it is all you need power wise, it is great in traffic, along with slow and fast roads.
Is there a difference in throttle response. The reaction of the bike to move at will.
@@israelrodriguez6986 They're different bikes, so they'll feel a bit different. But there isn't going to be a tremendous difference in feel, other than one will have more mid range and top end power.
@@ElCoco1984 yup. Definitely a different feel. Both are fun though!
This was the best 400 review I’ve seen. Excellent comparison vid
Thanks so much for watching. I often get criticized for not riding them, but I'm trying to offer something a little different (especially when I can't ride every motorcycle on video) Thanks for noticing the difference!
Thank you sir! Great comparison video!
Thanks for watching!
Hit the wrong button. Wasn't finished. My 250 is red. Have four different windshields including neon red, really stands out and is an eye catcher. Its all about being seen not blending in making it easier to get hit. Added tank pads to keep coat zippers from scratching the tank. I changed out the front disc's to better longer lasting disc's, got another seat, pulled back the cover added a drilled plate pulled back the cover and mounted my trunk then a sheep skin cover which made it more comfortable summer and winter riding. Added a nice plug and play rear rack, very handy. Added little block risers to sit up more comfortable. Found a pristine engine with 8,000 miles and changed that out as the other was toast. Found a pristine like new carburetor changed that out. Added adjustable shorty levers and a perfect tank bag and rear saddle bags. Gotta be able to take extra stuff along, ha ha. Also small racing battery and USB hook up for charging. Neither bikes have been crashed. I did fall over standing still a couple times on each.
Last I have a 2015 300 ninja all white. Changed out the bottom fairing to the the previous year because it had the red pin stripe. Added a front fairing wind spoiler in green. Have several different fairing windshields including neon green and iridescent. Added a plug and play rear rack, shorty levers, different rear passenger seat. Added German made saddle bags made for this bike, really sharp. Added block handlebar risers and tank pad. Put shorty adjustable levers on and an adjustable kick stand. My 250 I could just touch the ground with my tippy toes but the kick stand made it stand up straighter so when I mounted I would hold the front brake lever, put my left foot on the peg and step up then swing leg over, like mounting a horse, then sit, adjust and go. Stops were left foot down only. So on this 300 I did two things found the adjustable kick stand and stood adjusted it up straighter so I could mount it like my 250. Game changer. Throwing my leg over hurt my right hip and knee and that is with this bike lowered by two inches. Another game changer. All my bikes have reflective wheel rim stripes. On the 250 it came with black wheels. I found a nice set of red wheels off an older model ninja and changed those out.
I'm looking for the 2019 red, black and white 400 ninja with low mileage in pristine shape. I really likes that color scheme. Will sell my 250 as I am really liking the electronic ignition over carburated. After seeing your video I will look in on this new 400. I like the kawasaki green color scheme and features. Being short is my main problem. How much can this bike be lowered? I turn 70 this upcoming April. I like the ninjas foot placements better than a cruser. My husband has a 750 Vulcan cruser. Also I would like to see Kawasaki give an option to adding a kick stand on these ninjas. I really like that on my 250. Last question. How many 70 year old women do you know that ride a croch rocket and works on their bike. My husband has helped very little over the years. I've learned on my own.
Loved this video. I am a short woman so the size of the bike is definitely a consideration. I have a 1978 KZ 650 custom fully dressed with veter bags, fairing with radio, added short shocks, custom cut down seat, added electronic ignition, redone front calipers, gafler blue brake lines, drilled front disc's, blue cushioned handle bar grips luggage rack and sissy bar. Added a smaller but more output racing battery and usb connections so it can be trickel charged when not in use. Found a rebuilt front master cylinder and changed that out. I would love to add adjustable brake levers for my hands but haven't found anything that will work with the old school system.
I also have 2006 250 ninja which I put lots of miles on and was able to do most all the work on it till the front shocks wore out so replaced with aftermarket progressive springs. Much better.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Amazing review ‼️‼️‼️ so helpful
Thanks for watching!
Peter, phenomenal comparison my friend! Gladddd to see you emphasis several times that the 400 is a bike most can live with indefinitely. Too many riders have been worried about “street cred” by the size of cc/ci of their engines. I myself currently have a very powerful cruiser that just isn’t me. My family tells me it looks like my personality but the ride quality, the shifting points, the extremely loud exhaust have been quite annoying. Yes, if you haven’t guessed it’s a HD. I purchased it for my Wife to ride with me but every time I try to entice her to ride along she refrains. After having the bike sit for 1.5yrs and barely put any miles on it I’m looking to trade into something more refined and flickable. I’m tired of my crotch aching, arms wore out all for riding for a hour with the big hog bike. I’m getting old and need something 1/2 the weight, user friendly and stops much easier.
Thanks for sharing your experiences! Yeah, it's often so tempting to buy a bike of a certain style for the looks, but I love buying bikes that fit my riding style. I think that leads to happier riding, and a better ownership experience.
Great vid, I am looking to replace my Honda ST1300 with a lighter more upright sport tour bike.i have been looking at the 650 due to its 200 lbs lighter. I also have looked at the 1000sk which is 100 lbs lighter than the Honda. I am mainly going to use it as a comuter for running around town and back and forth to work. I was trying to figure out if the 650 is strong enough, I am 5'10 225lbs. I am going to have to test ride them both. Again great vid
I've owned the OG 650 since new, back in 2006 when they were called the ER-6F. Over 95,000 km & almost 17 years later it's still going strong with plenty of power on tap & flickability to embarrass many sports bike riders on twisty roads. The midrange grunt means you have plenty of pull from around 3,000 rpm all the way to around 8,000 rpm, where it tends to taper off. It's more of a sports tourer than an outright sports bike though, with a riding position that means you can ride all day without needing to visit a chiropractor once you're finished.
I haven't ridden the 400, but I'm guessing that it's a little more highly strung & you'll need to dance through the gears more to keep the momentum going compared to the 650.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing your experiences! I agree with a lot of what you're saying. The 400 is different, for sure. I'm not sure if I would use the words "high strung" although I know what you're saying. You will move through the gears a bit more on the 400, but it's just got a different character to it being a little bit more lightweight, it's still very fun, and quick for a 400!
Thanks for the video. I was stuck between wanting the 400 or 650 as my first bike for commuting and I appreciate that you pointed out a lot of the creature comforts like the adjustable levers and differences in tie down points. Great video.
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GET THE 650 Its my first bike and it’s WORTH it
The 400 is fun, but depending on your experience, your going to want the 650.
@@prodigy2.033 Haha! Just remember, what's best for you isn't always what's best for everyone else! Thanks for sharing that you love the 650 though! I love hearing from owners!
@@everpresent1 That might be your opinion, and many will agree with you, but there are plenty of people who are perfectly happy with their 400's too! What's right for you isn't always what's right for everyone else! I really like BOTH of these bikes!
This is a non BS comparison between these two great bikes addressing the real world differences between the two. Thank you for making this helpful video. I will be putting a Down payment on the 2023 Ninja 650 today vs the 400 thanks to your video!
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Thanks! Well thought out
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One thing I have noticed over the years of biking is the handle bar setting and ability to easily modify or not. My son has an older 636 kawasaki. I couldn't ride it as the seat hight was to high. I'm only 4'11".
Ok he stretched it which lowered it. It was now perfect for me. I took it for a very short ride. The leaning forward laying on the tank because of the reach for the bars immediately got me in the neck, shoulders, wrists, elbows, and back. Man I needed a chiropractor. That is the biggest problem I have with the sport bikes which is why I modify the bar position first thing for a better sit up position as apposed to reaching and laying on the tank. That position I'd fine if you are racing. The adrenaline is high and you don't notice it. However most of my riding and I bet others here are around town some back roads and the odd longer day trips. What I have noticed, and it's always guys, no offense but there aren't as many women riders as they are usually on the back seat as an adornment. Anyway the guys I see or may be riding with including my son and myself after a bit of riding go one handed with hand on the throttle. Whý because that aggressive forward riding gets you in those places mentioned above and there is no adrenaline to block the discomfort.
My question is why doesn't kawasaki or the others offer kits to raise and change the handlebar positions? We always have to go aftermarket, bar blocks, risers, different bars, can't do to much because then you need longer brake lines.
One more pet peeve. There should be an option to the center kick stand. I have the front and back wheel spools for the lift stands but I have to have help with those on my 300. My heavy 1978 KZ 650 fully dressed has a center stand and I can still lift it into position myself to work on. 😒
These two bikes have a much more comfortable seating position right from the factory, so that is beginning to answer a question about comfortable sport bikes. Secondly, the centre stand is an interesting one on sport bikes. I think they probably figure that it will ruin the lines and the light weight of a sport bike, but I just bought a Kawasaki Z900RS and put a centre stand on in, and the centre stand came with longer feelers on the bottom of the footpegs... so the Z900RS doesn't exactly have high footpegs, which makes me wonder if a centre stand may seriously compromise lean angle on sport bikes. Just my two cents worth.
My 2006 250 ninja has a center stand. I just don't see why one couldn't be fitted for these sport bikes. Just watched your video on the two 400s. Very good. Nice looking bikes. Can they both be lowered and by how much?
Love my 400 glad I purchased it now I'm looking into the new 2023 636 but will be keeping my 400 it is my first bike ever riding or owned
The 636 is amazing. Breathtaking speed, it's a race bike for the road. Keeping your 400 is a great luxury to have as it will be more comfortable. What a great pair of bikes to have around! Feel free to subscribe! I have to reviewed the 636 yet, but I will be reviewing it in the coming months.
ive been wondering what a good first sport bike for someone who has never ridden a sport bike but has ridden multiple different dirtbikes and cruisers. i still want a bike with power but not one that is absurd. im almost 17 now and have ridden dirtbikes and cruisers up to 300cc without difficulty of control. what would be a good bike to look for?
Love my 2022 ninja 650.
That said really wish it had the instrument cluster from the 400, as it has a traditional tach.
Very important for quick glance.
If you went used, the 650s 2019 and older have the same cluster
This video comes out perfectly on time for me.😆
Been trying to decide whether to go for the 400 or 650 for my first bike. Thanks for doing what you do!
Hello from Montreal, Canada!
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What did you decide, Elron ? 🤷🏼♂️
@@intergalacticbasketballdro7186 Right now, I'm thinking I'll go with the 2023 Ninja 650 (white). Haha.
I got my knowledge test next month!
@@elronaldopablo If you are a young, new rider, and/or a smaller rider, then I would recommend starting out on the 400 . I'm over 50, not a new rider. and I'm 6'2, 200 lbs. I ride a 2009 Kawasaki Versys 650. I bought it Used, less than a year and a half ago. It was always garaged, never dropped, excellent condition, awesome extras were included, only 5,050 MILES on it, for just $3,700 ! (Craigslist)
Even IF you've got the money, 💪🤑 👍💰,..
I would STILL recommend buying something USED for your first motorcycle. Perhaps something that already has a few scratches or a dent.. (Just in case you drop it, too).
Buy a Helmet Gloves Riding Boots & Awesome New Protective Gear BEFORE you buy your motorcycle.
My best advice is to buy a Beater Bike that's mechanically sound. Only spend $2,000, but spend $2,000 on your riding gear, too. Ride the beater Bike for 6 months or more. Maybe add a few mods along the way. Then, if you still feel the need to own a new Ninja 650, either sell your beater bike to put towards your new purchase, or keep it and have TWO MOTORCYCLES ! 🏍️🏍️You might just end up loving the motorcycle that you score for $2,000. 🤷🏼♂️
@@intergalacticbasketballdro7186 This is a useful perspective. Definitely brought me back to reality a little bit. I just got a call from my dealership and the R7 I put a small holding deposit on just got in. I don't have the down payment necessary right now because I spent a lot on Christmas and Birthdays so he recommended me to a lender that's across the street. I barely had the shrewdness to look reviews up online but I'm glad I did because they've got a 1.4 rating on the BBB website. But I'm being very much blinded by the sparkle of a newer bigger stronger bike. I'm 6'2 also and the size thing is messing with my head a lot. But what you're saying makes too much sense. Beater bike.
The only complaints my daughter has with the 400 is with the oem clip ons and the oem windscreen. I personally enjoy riding her bike over my S1K when cruising around town because its way easier on my back
Yeah. It's way more comfortable than a supersport for sure.
Love my 21 Ninja 650 for me the perfect bike. I have owned 72 motorcycles of all sizes and kinds dirt and street. The 650 Ninja has hit the sweet spot. It is light enough and low enough and fast enough and is very comfortable for a longer ride and the price is right. I have also added the Kawasaki rack and top box which makes it very useful as well. I am a senior citizen as well and this Ninja is not only garage candy but a heck of a performer as well.
the 650
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 72 bikes!! Wow!! But I agree! There's a reason that Kawasaki uses this engine in so many bikes, it really is great for street riding, and the Ninja is a perfect compliment to the engine with it's great real world comfort, and real world handling.
Would the suspension on the 650 make a more comfortable ride for bigger riders than on a 400? Or is the comfort negligible between the two?
It might... But the Versys 650 is the only 650 in the Kawasaki lineup with adjustable suspension. So that's the bike to get to dial in your ride. If I had to guess, I'd say that the 650 might be a bit better for bigger riders, but both bikes are capable of taking two people, so they have capacity.
Can you do a side by side comparison between the Ninja 650 and CBR 650, I know the engine differences but can’t decide upon which I want more, also do they sell out of state and deliver?
So I'm probably not going to be able to do that comparison as this dealer is where I get access to my motorcycles to review, and they don't sell Honda. As far as selling "out of state" we film in Canada, so that would be selling out of country, and that's probably not something that would make sense for them, or you to do. But I appreciate you subscribing! I'll try to continue to make videos along the lines of what you're hoping to see.
I did a lil research and decided on the 400. One, I was only looking for something to ride on my days off with my friends and wasn’t looking to spend another 1-1.5k. Also, I live in New York so our riding seasons aren’t that long.
I love the 400. I think a lot of people don't realize exactly how good that bike is! Thanks for watching!
I'm 5.6 feet and 160 LB, coming from R6 and I want to go with Kawasaki sport type (no supersport anymore), I'm still don't know with wich one should I go with?
N 400 is light and cheaper but less power while 650 is heavier but is more speed but still less than R6 for sure but I want comfortable ride.
Thanks!!
I'm looking at getting a secondhand ninja 650 from early years of this generation ( 2017-19 ). Have there been any major updates in the 20-23 models to make buying a newer one more worth it?
The LED lights are a nice improvement along with the updated styling. For 2023, the bike comes with traction control. This isn't a bike with overwhelming power that you're going to need traction control on dry pavement, but in cool whether with cold tires, or in rain, the tire can slip unexpectedly, so it's worth asking yourself the question if it's right for you or not. For me, I like those LED headlights the most and I really like the look of the latest styling.
What about ZX-6R vs ZX-10R? Can you make a video about this combo?
Btw! Thanks for the video! It really helped!
I can't wait to make that video! I started doing videos on the inventory here at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports in the final few days of August, and those bikes were sold out for the season. As they come in this year, I'll get videos of them. I hope that they'll both be in stock at the same time (that one model doesn't sell out before I get the chance to have them together) because I definitely want to do a side by side comparison of those bikes!
@@PeterLoweOne I'd love to help you test those out!
@@timbreshears3105 haha! I'm still trying to figure out how I can drive one without having to buy a second motorcycle this year!!
I have the ninja 400, in its power band, so much fun, and it’s got tons of revs to go!! More fun to push a bike then to baby it, I say!
I owned 2019 650 previously, but now a 2022 street triple 765.
I have to say I enjoyed the comfort and the low-down torque of the ninja 650, so my choice would be the 650 for comfort and torque against the 400, however, the 400 is class-leading.
In my mind, I would get another 650 as a daily but only in 2019 as I hate TFTs.
However good the 400 is the street triple is also a better larger class leader that goes great on the track, so those needs would be met on the triple.
Making my pick the 650.
Ironically even after owning and loving my triple by triumph I still miss my Kawasaki because they are so good and confidence-inspiring.
Amazing video. I wish I could find a used 650 for sale for a reasonable price. Everyone is asking 12,000 and that's wild to me.
Upgraded from a 19 z400 to a 24 ninja 650. Big difference in all the little things. Traction control, ABS adjusted throttle (z400 doesn't adjust throttle) , wind (put a bigger wind shield on the 400) better on the ninja, dual front vs single makes a big difference in city traffic.
It's a nice upgrade for sure. I will say that the Ninja 650 does not have ride by wire. Just wanted to make sure the information here is accurate. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
@@PeterLoweOne I'll edit that
400 as a beginner bike. Nice vid sir!
Thanks for watching! Yeah, I often recommend the Ninja 400 as a bike for new riders. The great thing about it is that it's also a bike that experienced riders enjoy.
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ABS for SURE! My H1-B was 'B' for 'Disc Brake'.
I noticed I could not depend on it when wet. If you like the wet ones, get a Harley or a set of Beatles Tickets.. What? They are not 'touring' any more?
Damm! Such Good Vibrations....
Glad I went with the 650, more than enough power to have fun on the streets!
I do think, in general that the 650 size, and this 650 engine in particular is a great size for fun street riding. The exception is the Ninja 400 which is an outstanding 400 cc bike.
I am looking into getting a motorcycle in the new year. Would you guys recommend a 400 on the interstate? Going 70-75 for a long distance?
The Ninja 400 tops out at around 120mph. So it's more than capable of Interstate travel. Of course, like most motorcycles, it's definitely going to be more fun on the secondary highways. But yeah, the Ninja can handle it with ease. I hope that helps!
The color is the same that Performance edition?
I have a 2018 ninja 400 with only 2,100 miles and full exhaust, tune, velocity stacks, MWR filter with modified airbox. Its a different animal than a stock 400. I can keep up with my friends 600 with no problem. I have had this 2 years and i still have not seen the true potential these machines can do. I have personally seen them in experienced hands crushing much bigger bikes on the track.
Yeah, there are a lot of UA-cam videos of people on these just embarrassing people on bigger bikes! These are great bikes! Thanks for sharing!
@@PeterLoweOne nice I would love to see those videos. I will look at them.
Thank you very much
Thanks for watching! I appreciate your support! Feel free to subscribe!
If you commute to go to work and you do a lot of highway riding get the ninja 650 upright position its better for commute, now if you use your bike once on a while on twisty roads or on the track get the 400 both are parallel twin little bit of vibration but you can live with it
Both are very comfortable and upright.
@@PeterLoweOne the 400 you stay little bit more forward compare 650........it's classified a sport/tourer I will go with the 650 because has better stopping power the only negative its huge catalytic converter when hit speed bump usually touch bottom parts of catalytic........
I like them both, but I prefer the 650. Not necessarily to go faster, but to cruise at lower RPM on the freeway.
I also, don't like the Ninja-400's tailpipe.
I ride a Versys 650. (My preference. No tailpipe).
I used to have the Versys 650 myself. I love that bike! I think I'm like you, I would choose the 650 for a little less revs on the highway, but then I wonder if I would prefer the Ninja 400's super sharp handling due to it's light weight. You can't replicate the feel of the 400 in a bigger, heavier bike. Either one is fun though, and that's what it's all about!
Some people say this bike feels closer to an adventure or sport touring bike. Would you say that is correct? I am looking for something that just does everything. I cant afford more than one bike, so I need something that I can tour on, cruise on, do some fun twisties, corner well, etc... Would this be a good fit? I have heard a lot of people complain about the 650 feeling sluggish, but it looks like it goes pretty quick. Anymore power than this and I feel like it would be like trying to swat a fly with a cannon. That is if you were not putting it on the track consistently. What are your thoughts?
Honestly, my thoughts are you should see if the Versys 650 is the bike for you. It's quite sporty, very comfortable, comes with luggage and wind protection. It shares an engine with the Ninja 650. I owned that bike for years, and other than the fact that it can't go off-road, it REALLY can do anything. Maybe that's not your style, and if not, the Ninja 650 is a good option, but for one bike that does everything (other than off-road) there's probably not a better value than the Versys, especially if you want something a little bit sporty.
Awesome man! Thank you for the reccomendation! I am gonna look at and sit on one tomorrow along with one or two others!@@PeterLoweOne
What should i buy if my dream is zx10r
I'm thinking about 400 or 650 so confused cause both bike have a little differences
It depends on what you're looking for. One thing that I've found from being around vehicles my entire life, is that sometimes we dream of performance vehicles and find that they're far less fun than we had hoped. I once drive a manual transmission 700 hp Corvette, and it was a nightmare! Dangerous in my hands. I'd much rather drive a Porsche Boxster or Cayman with half the power and be able to drive it hard than to drive that Corvette and have to be SO careful every second that I'm behind the wheel to make sure I don't put it in the ditch.
With that in mind, the 400 is a fantastic bike if you just want FUN and really want to learn quickly. The 650 is a great bike too and it works for beginners right on up to lifetime riders. They each have a different feel with more comfort than a ZX-10, but you'll be able to develop skills necessary for if you ever do want a ZX-10.
My current bike has about 110 horsepower, and while I think it would be cool to have a bike with 200 horsepower, for me, I don't think it would be any more fun.
I have the 650 and love it!
can you please do a review on the ninja 250 fi
I'd love to, but we don't have that bike here in Canada.
I live in southern Japan, where the roads are 50 kms max, and the local folks are even slower! I own a 2020 Ninja 400 and just love it!
The machine is such a lovely ride on these mountain and windy roads! It gives me the advantage of passing and riding along the seaway without any trouble.
Nice video. I'm 49 and own the 400 Krt edition and as an urban street slayer it's hard to beat. For some reason when I look at the nin650 I think the tail is way disproportionately short. So much so I I think it is ugly. That's just me. I would how ever love to try a Z650rs!
I love the 400 that you have. I've owned a Versys 650, so I'm familiar with that engine from the Ninja 650. I currently own the Z900RS SE and I love the RS line, so it sounds like we have similar tastes! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
I noticed the same thing about the tail, but I find it to be cute and makes the front end seem more muscular.
Will the 650 fairing body kit work on a 500 ninja same year?
No. They're different frames.
I’m a little concerned about the 650 being to small for me I’m 6’3 and I don’t really wanna buy seat raisers or any adds on would you think I buy or find a better bike ?
Versys 650! I owned one for years. It looks different, but it will fit you great, it's more versatile, and it will give you almost all of the sportiness of the Ninja 650. It's worth thinking about, especially if you love the Ninja 650. The biggest different is in the styling, but you get added versatility, adjustable suspension, it's a nice spec upgrade too.
I have the 400 but want a quicker 0-60mph without spending more. The other main Japanese sports bikes cost a lot more, but the ninja 650 seems similar in price.
It's (400) definitely a fantastic bike. So flickable and easy to handle, lightweight and nimble, with very satisfying power.
But I want even more speed. Thinking of getting the 650 but worried it won't feel really flickable and won't be able to take corners as fast ?
The 650 is a little quicker and torquier, and it's not heavy, but there is a difference. That's the conundrum with the 400. It's quick for what it is, but also offers a handling package that you can't match in a bigger bike. Having said that, the Ninja 650 still handles VERY well. Nobody coming from a 400 will be disappointed in the handling, but it is different.
Get a flash and upgrade the exhaust.
Is there any chance of a 6’6 guy riding these types of bikes I’ve seen 6’7 on a gsxr 1000 and 6’6 on a s1000rr I wanna ride sport bikes but I just don’t know if I’ll fit what do u think?
They're not generally built for someone of your size, but I've seen big guys on them. You'd definitely have to come see how they feel in person. I ride a Z900 RS SE. It's a little different style, but it has a 4 cylinder, powerful engine, Brembo brakes and ohlins rear shock. It has a bit more room for taller riders and may be all the sport bike you need?
@@PeterLoweOne yea I was looking at some naked bikes and sport touring
@@PeterLoweOne but I heard the 650 and 400 arnt terrible and some 1ks arnt bad
I’m 5’11 6’ about 180 185 pounds I love the ninja 400 but I’m worried I’ll look to big for it I have long legs and was thinking maybe a used 650 low mileage might be better for me… side by side is the 650 much bigger to me they almost look the same minus the tires being a bit thin on the 400
I'm your height and about 5 to 10 pounds lighter. So you should have a pretty good idea of how you'll fit by seeing me on them. But yes, always try them out for yourself before you buy.
I’ve written dirt bikes but never motorcycles on the road. Debating between the 400, 650, and 6r. But I feel like the 650 vs 6r, the 650 would be better for comfort wise. Debating on waiting “awhile” to buy the 650 or just buy the 400 and learn and trade it in for the 650 down the road. It’s all about patience and money. Gotta be smart with debt/money since it’s not my primary vehicles ya know. Any advice? Think the 400 will be good for a couple of years of learning/saving then trade it in for a bigger one…?
I love the 400. It's light handling, and very fun. If your definition of fun includes speed, the 650 should be on your radar. It's not the the 400 is slow at all, as it's quicker accelerating than most vehicles on the road. The 650 is a great size for all around road sport riding. It's not something that most people will feel a need to upgrade from in time. It really comes down to personal taste.
@@PeterLoweOneyeah I’ll probably not get anything bigger than a 650 because I feel like I would have no need for anything bigger and it’ll be almost a waste of money “for my riding needs”. I’m thinking I may get a 400 and see how it is. Possibly, eventually get a 650 if I want to. I Just don’t want to pull the trigger on the 400 and wish I got a 650 weeks later. I bought a kx250 dirt bike as my first dirt bike and not long after I was wishing I got the 450. I’m thinking whenever the engine needs rebuilt I might bore it out or swap it with a 450 if I can. Although a dirt bike and a sport bike is way different lol.
@@scooter2202 I really like the 400. If you're comfortable with a fun bike that handles very well, I think you'll love it.
@@PeterLoweOne I have the 400 and it was my first bike. I need more power thought. I'm tired of going through the gears all of the time for more power. It even gets boggy going up hill but I'm 6'2 and 235. I love the 400 but want a little more power and I sat on a 650 and it was more comfortable. I think the 650 will last me my lifetime.
Pick what your comfortable with and what suits the kind of riding you see yourself doing. That being said… I owned a tiny little pocket bike as a kid that had no clutch or gears, just a throttle and the throttle had a lock. Didn’t go any faster than 40km/h. I just bought my first actual bike about a month ago (a 2023 Ninja 650) right after doing my MTO safety course. I am very happy with the purchase. It is a bit more torquey than the bikes on the safety course were, so it took a little bit of practice time in a parking lot to get used to the throttle, but other than that o have been absolutely in love with the bike. Handles sooooo smooth, shifts real smooth too. It’s very forgiving bike and definitely new rider friendly, but still does have that power to grow into. Best way I can quirkily describe it.. is it feels like riding a ballerina dragon. It’s gentle, smooth, forgiving, but it’s got decent power as well. At no point have I felt uncomfortable on it… other than the one time I got stuck doing 40km/h behind a combine on the road for about 7km’s (due to oncoming traffic and twisty country roads) my right calf got quite hot from the bike heating up near the engine and exhaust. Its not a big fan of slow speeds for too long. It runs much cooler at faster speeds
Great video. I'm coming from a r3 but I don't want a r6 or 1000. I don't like how aggressive it is when riding it. I would get r7 but the price is high but I would get the 650
The Ninja 650 is a GREAT bike. The nice thing is that once you've decided on a Kawasaki 650, you have options in the showroom with everything from a Ninja and Z650 to the Z650RS, the Versys, and even the Vulcan S. Plenty of comfortable ways to have a little more variety than your R3, while gaining speed, and still having great on the road handling.
@@PeterLoweOne Thank you for this information. Can I ask you something? Does the ninja 650 have enough torque to keep be happier than the r3? Cause torque is all I really care about. Oh, and looks
@@Tiger42s Yeah! for sure. That 650 engine is really great. It doesn't have the best sound, but it's not bad... but the power, the driveability, the efficiency... everything about that engine makes is a real pleasure to drive. I think you'll really like it.
@@PeterLoweOne Great to hear! Thank you for making a video like this one! I watched it twice just cause it had a lot of good information! I really enjoyed it. I will definitely more than likely get the 650! Thank you Sir for you help
@@Tiger42s Thanks for watching! Feel free to subscribe, I'll continue to make more and more videos on all of Kawasaki bikes!
The ninja 400 and the 650 both have enough power to beat most stock cars on the road both really good bikes.
Oh, absolutely! A Ninja 400 will do 0-60 in about 4 seconds, while a Ninja 650 will do it quicker than that. The perception that these are slow is pretty inaccurate! These things will accelerate quicker than most sports cars!
@@PeterLoweOne I enjoyed being here and just Subscribed.
I always felt curious how a 150 lb rider on a new Ninja 400 would compare speeds with a '72 Kawasaki 500 triple, 2 stroke. Times have changed. Or how would a Ninja 650 compare with a '73 Z1 with the Same rider.
Hmm .. guess we will never know. Dam! Too many factors.
One thing you forgot to factor in with dual rotors you get much better braking and no side way pull which is typical with a single rotor brake system the other advantages slightly heavier weight bike on the 650 helps keep you planted down on road especially when big rig trucks come flying past you from the other direction and it is more suitable for higher speeds like on the Interstate and toll roads especially where I live you running 70+ just on back road here in Oklahoma and I have Z650 model but I really like get my hands on is ZX-4R but we have and see if come out in Feb 1 "fingers cross".
I don't think 99.9% (or more) riders will notice any "pull" in braking on the 400 vs the 650, but dual rotors absolutely have their advantages. Same thing with the 650 feeling planted near trucks. There's some reason to believe that's true, but both of the bikes are stable and safe feeling around traffic of all kit. This isn't a 200 lb bike vs. an 800 lb bike, so the differences in that way aren't usually enough to cause buyers to say, "hey, this one is much more safe in that situation".
The higher top speed of the 650 definitely makes it feel peppier at speed, and that will be a noticeable difference.
And finally, yes. I'd LOVE to see that 4 cylinder supersport 400 in North America! I'd love to ride it!
@@PeterLoweOne You right most avg ride will not but they will notice under heavy braking
@@SHSPVR I'd be surprised if the average rider would feel it on this bike. I know what you're saying because I've experienced it on older, lower quality bikes, I think the biggest difference people will feel in the braking is just less power overall on the 400 vs the 650, but the 400 is lighter, so some of the difference will be offset by that. But throw 2 people on each bike and emergency brake, and you'll feel the difference.
Brand new rider. 100kg 6ft fit build. Told time and time again to skip the 300-400 and go to the 650L to begin riding. What advice do you have. Very minimal experience.
That's a tough one. I'm about 80kg or so. I find that both bikes would work well for me. The 400 is capable of taking me and a passenger, so it's not like it can't handle your weight, but 100kg is around the size that I think you might lose some of the playfulness of the 400. That's just my opinion. You should at least sit on both. The 650 does offer a little more room. You could absolutely go with either. I'm the same height as you and I like both, but there is a point where if you're a little heavier, that it makes sense to go to the 650. I don't know what that weight is, so you'd have to see what your own expectations are of the bike. If you were 70 kg, there would be no debate at all. Either would be great. But at 100kg, I can see why some would think you want to move up. You wouldn't have to... But you may want to.
So I do plan on going on trips that are about 2 hours. That’s the most I’ll probably be taking the bikes. But I am still stuck. I want a more sporty bike which is why I’m on this video but I also don’t want to get the 400 and wish I got the 650 due to say maybe the 650 is more comfortable or somthing like that. I’ll never be going a track honestly and will just everyday my bike. Does any one have an opinion on this?
I don't think you can go wrong with either bike, but see if you can go sit on both side by side. That may be enough to let you know if one is going to be better for you than the other.
@@PeterLoweOne yea idk why I didn’t think of that, but I’m honestly so on the edge with these two that what ever one is more comfortable is the the one I’m gonna buy.
650 just has more torque but not high end power. Here in the philippines, top speed 213kmh on the 400 while 200 for the 650. The 650 just reaches that top end faster but not higher. Guzzles more gas and overheats in traffic. I stay with my 400
I can tell you from experience that the 650 doesn't overheat in traffic, and yes, the 650 is geared to give more acceleration. I think for most people on bikes in this class, they won't need to experience top end speed as much as the acceleration. Having said that, both of these bikes will give more than enough top speed for our roads, but they each have a distinct feeling for sure.
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I changed sprockets on my H1B for much higher gearing. One day with a heavy tail wind, I easily pinned the Speedo at 140 MPH and pulled right over.
Gag Dammit!
Forgot to fill up! 10o miles to a tank. Oh yeah. Reserve. Good to go!
Golly Shucks, That WAS good!
Both are different segment ,soon im going to own a ninza 650 better breaking,more power,suspension,tft dash,sports tourer,under belly which makes visible rear suspension looks cool and sporty, and more valye for money ninza 650 ❤❤❤
Yes indeed but I really likes the color set up of the 1019 and I would have to have it lowered by three inches and get an adjustable kickstand which I did with my 300 ninja. And I really would like to see Kawasaki offer a center stand which could be purchased and added on. I still have my 250 ninja which I put over 64,000 on. I'm going on 71 in April. I don't know any women my age who ride a crotch rocket and I have done all the maintence work on them myself including valves but I had the front shocks redone on my 250 because I have to work in my driveway and I don't have a lift. I had progressive springs put in and they are very sweet. I also have a 1978 kz 650 custom fully dressed in Vetter radio included. Only around 20 odd thousand on that one but now that I am older the lighter smaller bikes are much better. My husband has a 750 Vulcan which he likes because of back issues. He has a seat back rest which is good and he likes the handle bat placement which is more old school. The new bikes are ok but I need add-ons and a center stand would be great to make it easier for me to work on. I have stands but still need help setting it up with one. If ya get off balance just a bit it can go over and then your plastics are ruined. 😬
Got 650 because of more upright position than 400.
I was thinking about getting the 650 or just put the money into upgrading my 400
I think it depends on what you do. If you're track focused, a lot of people will upgrade the 400, but if you're driving on the street, it may be easier to just get the 650 and buy everything you need in one package. It will depend on how you use your bike, and how much you want to modify things. Some people love to modify things and make it their own.
When is Kawasaki going to give the Versys x 300 the 400 Ninja motor?
Haha! I think people undersell the Versys-X 300 simply because they know the Ninja 400 engine exists... I love that Versys-X 300, but I'm on the record as saying that I'd like to see a mini KLR with the Ninja 400 engine.. basically make the Versys-X 300 a little more adventure bike like, and give it the 400 Ninja engine, and I'm sold!
@@PeterLoweOne Exactly. 100%
Which one looks so awesome
I love both of them!
Fact : Ninja 400's in gear top speed is 2-3 kmph more than Ninja 650 in every gear from 1 to 6. But yes, I won't lie Ninja 650 has good mid range than Ninja 400 bcoz of it's higher torque
I haven't tried this, but it wouldn't surprise me. The 650 is stronger, but both have plenty of power and speed for most people.
@@PeterLoweOne Yeah
@@PeterLoweOne So what happens if you 'lower' the gearing on the 400 sprockets? Who needs 120 MPH on the street? You can always change them back or even go the other way. When I rode, I was a skinny little fella. About the average weight of a Girl. I think the Ninja 400 is the Ultimate Gals' Bike! My H1 needed strait bars to help keep the damm front end on the ground. I think I remember pulling 'Wheelies' at 90 MPH just to pee off the Harley Bad Boys in Convoy Mode. Next Stop. Hide my ass.
Ninja 400 wins Here, lightweight, 115 mph fast, cheaper and sporty look. 💯💪🏾
It's hard to argue that logic! Thanks for watching!
Oh dear, missed today!
Hi Peter
Hello!
The 2023 z650 and ninja 650 got traction control the ktc
For my husband, he rather the 650 as it is more comfortable for his height.(6’4”)
At 6'4 the 400 may be a little too compact for him. I would try the 650 if I was him, and even consider the Versys 650 as it's great for taller riders and quite sporty.
How much heavier is 650 then then 400?
like 20kgs
Ok everyone please do not laugh. I am a 74 year old novelist. My current book is a spy mystery book dealing with motocross and sports bikes. I have learned a lot about the sport of motocross and about sport bike racing. I played college and professional tennis as a young man. I had very quick reflexes. This spring I want to take classes on leaning to ride. So the question to you all. Am I at 74 too old to learn to ride safely? And, would one or both of these bikes be good for me. I am 6’ tall and right at 200lbs. I am not a Harley type of fellow. Thanks for any of your thoughts…both encouraging and discouraging and warnings.
I have both, I think the 400 is better to learn on , my son rides it the 650 is comfortable
Yeah, I'd agree with that. The 400 is just excellent for a lot of reasons.
Price?
Up to date pricing can always be found at www.kawasaki.ca I rarely list pricing because it can sometimes change before the video is out of date.
Little brother vs Big brother. Cant go wrong with either. Big brother has a higher top speed,more torque and nice features. Flash that ecu like I did and you'll have an even more capable ride.
I totally agree that you can't go wrong with either. These are both great, and fun to ride! Thanks for watching!
Ah decisions decisions! I’m in my 50’s and haven’t had a bike for about 10 years now. I want the small, fun, flickable 400 but my more mature side tells me to get the 650 for the commute.
There's nothing immature about the Ninja 400. Both are great bikes!
ZX-10R vs ZX-14R please!!
As soon as they arrive, I'll get them on video. I've been around since late August, but those bikes were sold by then, and no new ones have been ordered until the 2023 models show up. I haven't reviewed any super sport bikes yet.
@@PeterLoweOne awesome, thanks!
My ninja 300 didn't inspire confidence passing in the mountains but my 650 ninja was a passing beasti. The mountains
Oh for sure! The Ninja 400 also has much more power, and is significantly lighter than the Ninja 300 though. So it's really a different bike too.
Don't You Mean It's A Sticker Scheme Not a Paint Scheme . Can you go into that a little for me .
The new 2023 ninja 650 comes with 2 level adjustable traction control
I thought it was going to have that, but the current Kawasaki website doesn't list that for Canadian 2023 models, so I'm going to have to confirm that.
Love my 400
Thanks for watching!
I have this model of the 650 shown in the video. If I can b of any help dont hesitate to ask :)
It is a very comfortable bike for even everyday use. I have gone at a max speed of 194kmph n was very comfortable. It’s a very sweet , well balanced bike
Thanks for sharing! I assume that you're talking about the 400. I love that we're slowly building a little community here where people can get the answers they want, and hear opinions and experiences from people who are fans, and owners! Feel free to subscribe!
@@PeterLoweOne uh no. Like I said I’m talking about my 650. Yea it’s great to have a small positive community out here
KN 650 for me.... 🙂🙏