Ninja 400 VS Ninja 650: Which should you buy?
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- This turned out to be my longest video ever! It was a ton of fun to make and hopefully you all enjoy the video and get some sort of info out of it!
An in-depth review in to the Kawasaki Ninja 400 and the Kawasaki Ninja 650. I talk about which motorcycle is a better fit for you and how the motorcycles are different and similar! - Авто та транспорт
I am 84 years old and not as sharp as I once was but the Ninja 650 is the perfect bike as far as I'm concerned. I have had 72 motorcycles in my career of all types street and dirt and raced Moto X for 12 years. This 650 Ninja is the best motorcycle I have ever had except for the dirt which requires something altogether different.
What a legend! once a rider always a rider
84 and still riding motorcycles…That’s awesome!
You're a legend sir 🙌
Nice
Props to you sir you are killing it. Never too old to do what you love
As a total newbie I went with the 400. Mainly because of cheaper insurance, but also because it's lighter/easier to handle and I don't plan on doing highways for awhile (if ever). I found a 2019 with only 2,400 miles for $3,700 - private seller, and the bike already has 80% of common mods so that saved me another $700+. So far it's a super fun bike!
Funny you say that. I keep getting quoted near identical rates between the two. Oddly enough the Z400 is the most expensive. Leaving me confused as hell.
@@MixedGrid It's because it's an inline 4 cylinder 400cc will cost more to manufacture relatively to their 650 vs z6, and a new engine style (for modern years, at least), which is in theory possibly unpopular (from Kawasakis standpoint), means higher MSRP. Used Zx4RR will be in 2 years time probably around 8k asking price
Yea I really wish I started on a 400 instead
400 might not be super comfy for long periods but it does 200kmph. Plenty for highway speeds and overtaking
What's your insurance costs?
Great video. I was shopping for one of these bikes and was unable to find anything comparable to this before I made my purchase. I ended up with a 650 and couldn't be happier. Thank you again for this video.
This is exactly a video I was looking for for a long time. As simple as it gets you made my decision process so easy. now I’m going for 650. 400 will be next but just for fun
This was a great video brother. I just picked up a 2022 Ninja 400 last weekend. I started out doing track days on a Ninja 250 that my dad bought years ago when I was 15 (29 now). I loved that light weight bike. It only topped out at like 90 but you did 90 almost all round our local track here. It also had an R1 front end and the rear was changed as well, don't remember what tho. But I went with the 400 cuz mine isn't for going to work. It's a weekend toy for the back roads and for when we get a track day with my dad and his Ducati 1198 Penigale. I just love the light bikes that you can pin it and throw into corners. And I'm not going pro, since I'm not that good and too old, so I just wanted something that wasn't too crazy but that you could beat the crap out of and have a blast on. I made the right decision.
I had a 06 650r , 08 zx10r, 08 zx14 , 16 zx14R, 21 zx10r, 21 zx14R, 21 H2 Carbon, 18 H2 sx se. I kept the 4 newer bikes . Kawasaki makes a great machine. You can’t go wrong with a kawi’
Bought a used 650 for my starter bike 3 months ago and I’m loving it so far the power was not an issue. Long rides are not an issue and it handles the highway just fine.
How is the fuel economy on it?
Do you find it go have too much torque to learn on or does it respond well?
Thanks you so much for making this video comparison! Honest and detailed review. You just got a new subscriber here 🙂
Me too!
Good video! keep 'em coming! great info altogether
Great review. I almost pulled the trigger on the 400, but decided on the 650 based on your video.
I had a 650 , over a decade ago, returned to riding this year, For my first bike back I got a 2022 Ninja 400, after a few months and being re familiarized with riding I also got a 05 cbr600rr, which is what I ride more often then not now, but , I love the 400, it almost feels like a cruiser , compared to the seating position of my 600, i also do remember loving the 650 back in the day too though so I guess it depends on what you want , both are great bikes! And super fun! Ride safe bros ! Great video! Oh and the 400 gets crazy good gas mileage lol , my 400 gets 68-70 mpg , my 600 gets about 40 , so yeah there's that too lol
I just got my 2021 ninja 650 yesterday. Good mileage, and the compatibility with Rideology is a nice bonus.
Appreciate all the info, I own the 2021 and flashed my ecu as well. It’s a great bike and a ton of fun!
What does flashing an ECU mean ?
Great review... I'm returning to riding after 20 years without a bike, and the Ninja 400 is my choice.
We were watching road signs and landmarks trying to find you... where you were riding looks EXACTLY like Northern Oklahoma in the spring... turns out you're not in OK, but the houses, churches, everything looks like it would have been any town where I live. Too bad, would have loved to hit some curves with you. I won't say where you live, first video, and I don't want to "dox" your approx location. But beautiful place to ride! Subb'ing... thanks again for the video!
Nice review! I’m looking at the 400 as my 1st bike, and I am similar size to you so looks a good fit
You helped me decide! 650 it is! Thank you!
Good review I’m glad you mentioned “treat motorcycles with respect” Always ride safe so you can ride anothe day😉
great vid man. i like how you explain things . hey how do you get your microphone to sound so good. even at higher speeds we can hear you perfectly.
I appreciate it! I use a purple panda mic with a Tascam recorder. I have two covers on the microphone and then tuck it into my helmet padding!
I was planning on getting a 650, but after sitting on both, I felt that the 400 was a better fit. I was at the point where I had almost no motorcycle experience, and was deathly afraid of riding, but really wanted to learn, so a smaller motorcycle was a better for me.
i have a 400 and i love riding it and its great to learn as a beginner.
You probably outgrew it in the first month. I went 650 and I love it. I do wish I went bigger but for the price point it’s amazing.
I think the Ninja 250 would be a great starter bike for individuals with zero motorcycle experience.
@@devotedtodestruction I’ll smoke you in my 400, I weigh 160 and smoke all my friends with 600s😊
How’s had it been going? Do you like riding?
thanks for the review
Dame! lol now I am really torn between which one to get. I want the 650 so I will not have to upgrade later and I love the display but the 400 weight and movability and control is very good for a first bike. I guess I will have to do more research and test ride to really choose. thanks for the video great job.
yeah thats the choices i came down to too, just gonna sit on and test ride both and decide from there
Thank you sir! Great video!
I got a 650 and i have no complaints. Its fast enough and easy to ride plus when going on the highway i have no problems either
I traded in my Honda Super Blackbird for a Ninja 650 and the difference is unbelieveable - 193KG compared to 257KG , super light steering and more , one of the best if not THE best I`ve ever ridden , highly recommended.
Ha! I just sold my super bb few weeks ago and probably buying ninja 400 or 650.
I’ve got 2 sons that want to get into biking. Handling and pragmatism really led me to the 400. I’ll be buying 3, so insurance, mileage, and entry level simplicity tip the scales. Great video and review!
Thank you! Hopefully you are all safe and enjoy riding together! Good luck!
Dang your buying 3 ninja 400’s? That’s ok I love my ninja 400 so u can’t go wrong with um
dandanthe fireman is great encourage you all to watch him and focus on recognizing traffic patterns
@@crazyamericangamer7036 actually, my son talked me into a KTM Duke 390 for him! Cool looking bike.
@@deadshot4245 we love Dan! We all watch him routinely!
Great video! I ride a yamaha diversion F I have 60 k in almost 3 years and would like to change for something more pratical and with better mpg!
After the video dont know yet which one to buy :D T.T
you think with slip on would be good aswell?
I'm 50 years old and have sciatica. I think the 650 is ideal for me. Now I have to decide on whether or not to trade in my vn900 classic or keep it
I have a 2020 Ninja 650 and absolutely love it. Back when I bought it I contemplated for days between the 400 and 650, but finally ended up settling with the 650. Just recently got it flashed and tuned and what a difference it makes overall, especially with the choppiness of the throttle.
This is a great comparison and exactly what I was looking forward to when I purchased my bike a couple years ago.
Whod you have tune it? I’m between flashing mine or just buying a 600/1000
How much for a tune and what kind of shops would do that?
@@Roblessed722 I can’t really speak for this guy but from what I know definitely try to find a motercycle shop with a dyno around you. Most flashes should cost 250-400$ but could be less or more. It may be hard to find a shop so you could always just send your ecu into a mail in shop like Moore mafia but it’s a little risky. Having the bike on the dyno is the best choice.
@@carsons165 sweet thanks for the info I’ll have to look for some local shops
What does “ got flashed “ mean?
Ive rode a 650 before and i definitely was not afraid of its power. I also ride dirt bikes tho so maybe im just used to the torquey response. My advice would be if you are scared of the power get a 400 but if you know what its going to feel like or are confident you can control it, youll probably be good on a 650
Im glad I stumbled on this video. I never thought of the ninja 400 as a stepping stone to a supersport. I own the same 2021 Ninja 650 in grey and I absolutely love it. Did a yoshi exhaust and fender eliminator. I love the comfort and power of it. In regards to your tune, are you running a power commander? I haven't tuned my bike yet but after hearing how pleased you are with yours, you have me seriously considering it! Lol Are there any other mods you would consider for top end power like changing sprockets?
Ninja 400 stock has +2 kmph top speed in every gear than Ninja 650 stock
Top video mate but did you take off the stickers?
Good video!! The lady is looking for her first bike and heavily intrigued by the 400
I appreciate it! My girlfriend was torn between the Rebel 500 and the Ninja 400. She chose the Ninja 400 and has loved it! Super cool you two are gonna ride together too!
I thought those roads looked familiar and then I saw the “St. Paris” sign. That’s my same riding area!
@@joshuaspop8865 Small world 😂
great video, thank you!
Great video!
I've 2018 Ninja 650m It's better in every way to my 1968 BSA Hornet 650, particularly with its fairing. But my Triumph 765RS out shine it in every respect. Lol. Main fault with Ninja 650 is its throttle. I wish Kawasaki would put ride by wire throttle on it. Also a little more power would be appreciated. Perhaps raise red line to 9500 rpm. Ninja 400 which I also have is very easy to ride and lively. Max power is adequate for every occasion, and it's very light and nimble. If I could own only two bikes, I'd keep the 765RS and the Ninja 400+ the Ducati 950 SuperSport which is not my most loved riding bike, yet its my love for it. BTW I'd recommend putting YSS products on the Ninja, replacing OEM parts.
Currently trying to decide between the two and this was one of the best comparisons videos. I have found on here. Thank you so much! Either bike how hard is it for wheelie stunt riding?
May be too late but both bikes are extremely easy to stunt on imo
I love the sound of this new 650 engine
I just started riding motorcycles and got the 400 bout 2 weeks ago and it gets confused sometimes by people for the 650 a good bit of time. And I love it extremely. Ride it everyday for work. Definitely want to make it louder
Congratulations, and welcome to the motorcycle world! Don't just get exhaust to make it louder... Get a full exhaust for Performance, and it will naturally be better sounding! I have a Ninja 300 that performs like a 400 with a Leo Vince FULL exhaust system (among several other performance goodies), it sounds mean! (Pehaps too loud, but very barrel-chested, like a Chinook Helicopter at certain rpms). Slip-ons (basically muffler) will make it sound deeper, and sheds a few pounds, but no horsepower gain. A full system costs more and will need to have the bike tuned, but you get even lighter weight, gains in power, significantly louder/deeper exhaust note. Then there's exhaust wrap which will keeps the heat in the exhaust, forcing gasses to escape faster at low rpms, without extra backpressure. That gives you additional low-end torque, whereas a free flowing exhaust without wrap just has horsepower gains in midrange and high rpms. I have mo powaa at all RPMs, and it shoots flames! The 400 performane gains will be bigger than the 300s because of all the restrictions on it. There's pros and cons to all systems, reply if you want to hear more- I didn't mean to bombard you! Have fun riding the cool little 400!
@@jeladsnikpoh1289 no I really appreciate that. I have been looking for an exhaust for a little bit since as of right now it sounds like a moped 😂. In all honesty I would like it to perform better as well so why not wait until I am able to get the full exhaust system. I do love the slip on Leo Vince sound, so how does that compare to the full exhaust?
@@mjsoraw141 I bought my bike with 2000 miles on it 6 years ago, still love riding it! It had a really nice smooth sounding Yoshimura slip on, I promptly replaced it with Leo Vince full exhaust for mo powaa, then heat wrapped it for more torque. From what I understand the Leo sounds similar in both slip-on and full. Full is significantly louder and more full-bodied. Higher highs, but especially deeper lows that you really feel. There are plenty of pops on deacceleration, much of which is from my aftermarket tune (required for full exhaust, but backfires can be tuned out, I've learned to love them!) I bought Leo Full because it had the highest dino gains- Leo's full exhaust was a bargain, about the same price as other slip-ons, and has great quality and good sound. I'd say it has more high tones and louder than the smooth Leo Vince full exhaust, and weighs less (6lbs for full system!). A little more rowdy, I've learned to love it! My 300 has a very similar sound to your 400, so expect a very deep sound at low rpms (compared to 4cyl sportbikes) not as smooth, but smoother than a 'cruiser'. Gets much smoother as the rumble turns into the 'howl' at rpms! At times has a deep thump like a couple Chinook Helicopters flying over, but more of a angry howl at mid rpms, with a raucous 'blam-blam' if you snatch the throttle quickly. Potential downside to wrapping it is potential long term rusting of exhaust system. I haven't had ANY issues whatsoever. Only more torque and power, flames firing out upon deacceleration after riding real hard (everybody thinks it's awesome), I love the whole bike, gnarly exhaust, 70+mpg, reliability, looks, performance (I just got back from some much needed Ninja-therapy before I replied to this. 100mph in the Kentucky Twisties, how fun!
@@jeladsnikpoh1289 okay cool thank you for all the information. Right now im looking at getting either a Leo Vince LV 10 or the Leo Vince GP Corsa Evo both being slip ons for the time being.
I have 2014 ninja 650...its a great bike, like a sport bike and a dirt bike had a baby.
Im a shorter rider and i appreciate how skinny the seat area is,as well as the more upright seating position. The 650 to me is a modern jack of all trades ,master of none.
The Hindle megaphone exhaust sounds great on the 400.
This video was super helpful in deciding my first ever bike :) p.s bro is living in the windows background
I feel like the 400 and 650 are soo similar that I would rather get the 400, save some money, and then get a zx6r once I can get better insurance. My 250 right now is hella fun, but I do want some more power.
I thought about alot of different bikes but realistically to start it was ninja 400 650 and fz07. More I researched I went with the ninja 400 cause I felt it looked more like a normal sport bike and I liked how it reved and how light it is. Like even top speed is about the same between the 2 and the 0-60 is only half a second faster. Now that's not nothing but wasn't enough to make me go to the 650 when the power was only reason I would of went over the 400.
Yah top speed being 120 turns me away but I mean I'd be scared to top it out anyway
Yup I agree.. 0-60 is fast enough regardless, and top speed is not anything ima ever reach anyway cause thats scary lol. Just want a fun bike enough to go on highway but easy to maneuver through city, and if i can learn to do tight turns etc with it. Easier on a lighter weight bike im assumingg.. than I’ll learn better to maneuver it with a smaller bike vs heavier
Good review - I'm leaning towards the 400
That was eye-opening 😳
Great video on comparing 400 and 650, something I was looking for myself. I am planning on getting the 650. Had a question, did the exhaust replacement improve the ground clearance a bit?
I think it's probably about the same. I never had an issue with clearance so I never really noticed 😅
Bought the 650 as my firt bike but that's becuz i have experience with bikes when i was a kid becuz my parents are obsessed with quad and dirt bikes at 5'6 im half footed over all it is a great bike and has the sweet spot interms of power my cousin bought the 400 since he dont have any experience and it is actually adequate bike the power is definitely there but i do think it is light most will think it is an advantage but a truck passing in the other lane will definitely affect ur balance i dont experience that with ny 650
Question what type of exhaust do you have on your ninja 650? Sounds amazing !
It’s a Two brothers S1R!
That did it for me sir. Very much appreciated, and what an inspiration you are! Many more miles to you:)
I wonder how this compares with the ZX-25R. Defo a weird comparison but due to the similar speeds and hp I think it would be a super interesting match up.
God that same 650, same color. Bad ass looking bike
We need to see one of these with the new ZX4R also! (does the U.S get those?)
Great video, New sup, drive safe out there brother
I’m learning on the 400 my self it’s really forgiving
That’s awesome! Hopefully you’re enjoying it!
@@BryantintheMidfield oh yea I’m enjoying it lots
i split and went with the 500 ( really a 451 ) and i absoloutely love it
What should you be looking to spend fairly on a used model? I get there 5 to 10k but how much used?
Great video! I feel so torn between the two. This will be my first motorcycle. I really wanted a Husky Svartpilen and/or Vitpilen and I was able to finally sit on the huskies which I hated the way they felt😭. I sat on a Ninja 650 and a 400. I really loved how the 650 felt and I had a this is it moment which I was so surprised… BUT the price difference is a factor. I just really like the seating position and handlebars on the 650 vs 400 Ninja.
What did you end up getting?
@@Vallavanat No dealer I talked to could confirm a Ninja 650 ABS, and only non-ABS models were available. I put a deposit on one, and the dealer couldn’t give me an answer on arrival times and said it may be in 2023… my local dealer had a Z400 in stock. They were so awesome and put it together for me on the spot. I bought it! I am very happy with the purchase; so far I have 300 miles on her. She has plenty of power. I also realize outside of the MSF course I have so much to learn!
@@mrkcaldwe5 congrats on the bike! Z400 is kind of the best of both worlds, has the upright seating position of the 650 and a good amount of power for the road. Nice pick ;)
@@Vallavanat Ninja 400!
What exhaust did you use for the 400? I'm planning on getting one!
# # Very useful, sensible and helpful review. , I'm a beginner motorcyclist, my first bike at age 48 end am small 166cm, I drive daily to work in the city and also the highway( Commuting) and sometimes during a weekend round of recreational so, which one is a good option for me? Is this bike good enough and usually commuting friendly? Preference for 400 is lighter and low height seat so is 400 beter dan Yamaha R3?
Any way great video
Be safe
The Ninja 400 is a tad bit better with highway commuting because of the highest displacement but in all honesty, both bikes are so good you can’t really go wrong with either bike. My only advice would be to try and test ride each and go with whatever feels more natural for you! Cheers!
Absolutely love my 400 2021 never get rid of it liked it way more than a 650 and the 650 was just heavy and to be honest for an extra four grand not worth the extra tiny bit of power you got on the top end
May I ask how you mounted the phone mount on the 650?
Thank You!!!
How about leg position while riding? Are my legs more comfy on the 650?
Looked a lot like Lawrenceville Ohio! Yep you just passed my best friend house! I'm right inside Springfield if you ever wanna ride!
I mean do you count the Honda CB400 Super Four? It is a 399 i4 revs to 13k and generates a claimed 55 horsepower. Unfortunately it wasn’t sold in the US.
got the cruiser version with the same engine - 2019 Kawasaki Vulcan S ABS - kick asssssssssss
I have one too! Other than being jerky in low speeds it’s amazing. It’s like a hybrid that gives you the comfort of a cruiser with the playfulness of a sport bike.
@@stephenwilder2320 either get the ecu flash when you get an exhaust or bump it up to 16t kawasaki oem spocket
Im a beginner who's doing his A license on a Z650 right now.
I've always dreamed of owning a Ninja but can't decide which one to get, the 400 or 650.
Seems like the 650 doesn't get much love compared to the 400, but the 650 is closer to Z650 I've been already driving on and it's only 1700€ more.
Im impressed of how much cheaper those bikes are compared here in Brazil!
The 400 is R$37,310. Vs 650 R$48,030.!
{Of corse if transitioning the “Real” (Brazilian currency) to dollar, it may be a similar price.}
buy a slightly used 400...put a flash, air filter, stacks, an exhaust, SAI block off, and HD clutch springs. You'll be at 55 ish whp with a 360 lb wet weight, almost identical performance with cheaper insurance, better on fuel, 60ish lbs less weight...if you gotta have a 650 class go MT-07/R7
@Thomas B The 650 does not look like the zx6r. It's actually ugly compared to the zx6r. Short little tail piece on it and big tall gas tank. It's ugly . I owned the 07 650R and imo that generation looked better than the new ones
The mod list here would cost significantly more than a "slightly used 400" that's just foolish at that point because you still maintain that 400 resale value. Spend more for the bigger bike in the first place, and you'll get more back when you outgrow it.
Throwing mods on it to squeak out the extra performance is part of the experience.
@@planetphatness - - Plus, the light weight remains with all it's perks. I love the 400s which are a blast stock and wouldn't feel the need to drop the extra coin for more hp unless I was dedicating it to track (or had expendable extra cash).
650 is a amazing bike get that 100% alot of power for a beginner to keep you happy for a few years
Please advise what tune you have on the Ninja 650.
Soooo I am planning to buy the ninja 400 but I have second thoughts on the ninja 650... in my country the currency conversion from usd to guy $ is 5000 = 1 million guy $ so the 650 is around 1.6 to 2.1 or more... I need advice because my budget is 1 mil💀, is the 650 worth it than the 400? Or the 400 ok to deal with?
For a first time adult rider (haven't rode a motorcycle since I was a preteen and it was a dirtbike) would the 650 still be a good choice? Also should I factor my own weight into what bike I should buy? If I'm under 200 pounds should I stick with the 400 or would I still be fine with the 650.
The Ninja 650 is absolutely an option, no doubt. It's a forgiving bike especially with dirt experience (even years ago experience).
You can choose either one and be happy/safe. Boils down to ergos/how you're mainly going to use it. I'm all about the light weight and flickable aspects so 400 all day, ymmv.
I started on a ninja 250, also haven rode friends bikes that were 500+ in cc, I loved my 2022 ninja 650. But a mechanic wrote it off in an accident so now the dealers giving me a 2024 ninja 650. I'm keen to try out the traction control as I always feel sketchy riding on wet roads
I am a recent retiree at 62 years old and still deciding which one to get. I am 5'8" tall, 190 lbs, fair physical condition, but haven't ridden a bike in 35 years. I occasionally ride a scooter but that's about it! Money is no issue. I will be using the bike to basically tour around the Philippine Islands. I don't plan to upgrade to a larger displacement nor have plan to race. I am leaning towards getting the Ninja 650 with ABS and Traction Control that I believe the 400 does not have. What do you think I should get?
So what's the best bike Kawasaki ninja z650 or the Kawasaki ninja 400
I need that 650. I don’t want an absolute speed beast like the super sports, but I still want solid power. Also I love doing highway rides.
Im 5,4 and still in high school should i go for the 400?
I am a 74 year novelist. I am currently writing a spy mystery novel based on Motocross and sports bikes. I have never ridden a bike before but after doing the research on the sport I would loved to have started riding motocross as a young man. I was a college athlete in the 1960s and 70s and played some professionally for a few years. My reflexes were always super fast and still, to this day, remain fast. My eyesight is good, though I wear bifocal glasses and i have great peripheral vision. Most people think I look at least 10 - 15 years younger than I am. I walk a little slower than i did in my youth. That being said, I am in great shape according to my physician. That is the back ground to my question all of you. I plan to take the MSF course this coming spring with the hope that I can actually buy and ride a motorcycle. I have come down to the choice of either the Ninja 400 or the Ninja 650. My desire is to drive the local roads here New Hampshire. I don’t have to commute anywhere as other than writing I am retired. I will just be doing fun rides and I do not plan on riding much on the interstates…but would like to be safe on them when i do use one. I am 6 foot tall and weigh 200 lbs even. What are your thoughts and suggestions for me? I was leaning to the 400 as I do not feel i will need the extra power of the 650 however talking with several people at bike shops they feel because of my height and weight the 650 would be a better fit. I like the sport bike look. Since this will most likely be the one and only bike I will be purchasing your suggestions is very much appreciated. Thanks for your thoughts.
what is the exhaust of ninja 400?
i have the same bike & i wouldn't trade it for any other bike it's very easy to maneuver around in town & in tight corners & it would make a very good bike to pass the safety course to get ur F endorsement
Ninja 650 is quick off the line-it'll blow away the ninja 400.
would you rather buy a ninja 650 2021 or a ninja 400 2023 price is the same and it would be my first bike
i got a 650 and got backlash by your classic r1 bros saying im gonna hate it and i shouldve gotten a 400 but i love my 650 its so comfortable and still have the sportbike look
I've been looking for a 400 and can't even find one so I think I'll have to get a 650 but what's not to love... ❤️💪🏾💯
What’s your camera set up for the helmet your vocal is so clear?
Anyone know what exhaust is on the ninja 400? Sounds great for just an amazon slip on tbh
Really want a 650
Where is the best place to hide a mMonimoto 7 tracking device please
I'm trying to figure out if I should get my first bike on the 400 or thr 650 but I'm unsure which bike my height would suit. I'm 6,2.
I’m a 6’2 female and I sat on a 650 today. I’d definitely see if you can find any dealers or people who have the bikes just to sit on and feel how small they are. My feet were flat on the ground and my legs had a little bend to them while getting a feel for the bike. But I will say that it wasn’t too unbearable but again everyone’s feel is different. I hope you find your bike!
@@sidneyarevalo5544 Hey thanks Sidney I'll try that!
Of the two choices, the 400 is a sportier all around funner bike. Although not released yet, wait for the 2022/2023 ninja 700r coming out in the next year. Going to be the competitor against the aprilia rs660 and Yamaha r7 and it’s going to be magical.
I just bought a 2024 Ninja 650, and I don't agree with comparing modified bikes, especially with fuel mapping/ throttle changes. Those are "simple" but not for new riders. I would honestly say this is more a review for experienced riders, as you've done modifications. I would argue the 650 is almost TOO jumpy from factory floor, for beginners. All the torque is down low to mid from the factory. It is very easy for me to go from 0 - 100 mph very quickly, and I haven't done ANY fuel/ecu/throttle mapping or modifications. I have changed my exhaust and air filter, but so far, all that's done is made the bike even MORE jumpy, and I am going to use the Dyno Commander VI to fix all of this, but from factory floor to the road, I would recommend new riders specifically get the 400 unless they have prior experience
Your Ram phone mount is blocking the display on the 650. :( Otherwise, nice content. Thank you.,
Hello would like to ask which is better for complete beginner. I just got my license and decided to go with kawasaki bikes and stuck between 400 and 650. After getting used to riding thinking of upgrading to ZX-6R.
I think the Ninja 400 would offer the most direct comparison to a zx6r as far as riding style. I would look for a used ninja 400 and start with that until you’re ready to move up
How fast the 400 goes
where did you get your tune? Ive been thinking about getting one for my 650
It was done by Moore Mafia. I highly recommend them, my bike has been perfect with their tune!
@@BryantintheMidfield That is who i was looking at so thank you for the rec! Looks like that is who i will be going with.
Both are great bikes,.no one is better than other, but very different, depends what you need. 650 has a lot of torque @ low rpm, don't need to shipf up reving high, 400 needs to rev before shifting, so make your choice.
who did your ecu flash for the secondary control ?
Mooremafia took care of everything for me!
Is the 650 also a beginner bike?
Any Ninja is a good Ninja 🥷
You’re not wrong! 🤙🏼🥷
@@BryantintheMidfield team Green Approved 💚☝👍🤘🚀🚀💯💥😎love from Miami FL
Exactly, I ride a 2000 ZX7R. She runs like a newer bike!
@@dfrancois929 I miss that model hope they bring it to Powamoto
VFR 400 is the best starter bike ever. I wish I kept it. I went from a BWS 50 CC Scooter to the VFR400R. Never looked back.
My opinion if you're a fairweather rider (toy not mode of transport ) get the 400 but if you're a serious rider trust me you'll VERY soon get tired of the 400 so I'll get the 650 and limit the power till I'm confident cos at least you can grow into the full potential rather than outgrow and get bored of the 400 and get overtaken by big engine scooters 😢😮
what exhaust is on the 650?
It's a full carbon fiber two brothers exhaust