XS Power Titan-8 Lithium Battery Test pt1 ***Insane Power, You Won't Believe!!!***
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XS Power never disappoints! Great video brother, keep them coming
Need to get a batch of these under your test bench big D! Xx
@@proffessasvids I got one a month or so ago to test with, but I think I'm using the XS Branded Yinlong LTO cells for my bench. I'm kinda already invested in them along with a really phat bus bar system from Toolmaker.
Awesome video Derrick!! Thanks I have been very curious about these.
Love it! Happy new year d man! Please give Jacob a snog from me! Xx
It would be awesome to see the difference between one of these batteries and a standard lead acid battery just so someone on the fence like me can see what the real life difference is. Although I am leaning toward a couple of agm batteries to run my truck real world comparisons are super helpful. You guys rock by the way. Could not be happier with your subs!!
I was thinking the same thing
@richardgordon9649- I have seen a test where 1- Xs power AGM group 31 battery (80Lbs. and $399), was as powerful as 2- group 31 lead acid deka batteries (60Lbs each x 2= 120Lbs, and cost $199 each x2= $398). And this Titan 8 S5 PWR (9Lbs. Each, and $699 or $799?) is 2x the power of the Xs power group 31 AGM battery= 80Lbs. Each x 2= 160Lbs., $399 each x 2= $798 So power cost $ any way you look at it, but 9Lbs., and compatible with regular Lead acid, and Agm 12volt batteries is Awesome!
SEE MY REVIEW ABOVE BUD!!! I OWN A SHOP AND HAVE FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY THEY DON'T BACK THEIR PRODUCTS!!!
Just bought one of these exact batteries for my 2021Frontier. Paired with an ultra cap bank and a couple of 6ah LTO banks.
Honestly think about Piglet. Mechman 370, two of those lithium batteries under the hood. How much power could that handle? And you have ALL your electrical upgrades under the hood. That's badass.
Oh my goodness!!!!!! Thats crazy!!!!!
Can you do a vid on the reserve and burst titan 8 batteries and how to use those with other batteries. Also what kind of alternators are compatible. And everything in between!!!🤣
Excellent good video content 👏👌
Insane 🤯
I’ll be running a titan in my truck. Only one battery. My battery is dead, figured it would be a good time to upgrade.
NICE!!!
just bought one two weeks ago, getting 3 of them to do 10k glad to see this video
remember if you push 10kw of power constant for a little over 2min you deplete this type of battery (saying you got the 120Whr ones) and have to cut back to let it recharge, but it should recharge pretty quick, just make sure your alternators can handle that high charge current otherwise you'll destroy your alternator
@@wow1022 Does this apply even while driving? Lol. I'm really confused on the pwr s5 vs the reserve s5. I got a d3400 and then two titan pwr s5s. I plan on running around 7k rms but I just wanna be able to drive and bump at the red lights. So my question like I said was, does tihs apply while driving? I don't wanna be parked up revving to 2k to do a burp. Did I fuck up with two pwr s5s?
@@wow1022 I have a bank of yinlong and a 240 amp Mechman to back up the titan 8’s I believe I should be alright
What's the max charging voltage on these? Looking at one in a group 48
Can you do a test on cable lugs? Like the ones used on the battery to amp cables vs heavy duty solid copper lugs vs tinned copper
Salute!
I can't wait to get one
I'm just kinda thinking about going to this in my 03 honda crv I got d5100R in it now and the lithium titanXV5100 got a Xs super bank500F in the back to and it is good
yea it will do it no doubt!!
Badassss when’s pt2 coming out?!?? 🧐🧐
Very good video would love to see the s6
5k is reasonable. But the recharge rate is phenomenal. For me the price is a little steep, and I'm gonna build a custom bank this spring with the same cells. That said, it's a finished commercial product and it's new, so I can understand the cost. Those compact models are hella slick though.
What cells do these use?
What did you have to do to put incorporate them into the truck? Any special charger needed, battery isolators, etc.?
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Looks like a good option 👌 👍
I am definitely interested, but not for stereo use. I have a CB in my truck, with a 1500 watt amp. Draws about 150 - 200 amps. I'm going to call and talk to them.
Yeah im running the cyber 12k and it seems to do everything that I need it too lol
cyber looks good
Limitless makes great stuff
Derek, I'm currently running an 80a stock alt, no big 3, a Northstar 24f AGM up front. 1/0 to the rear and a single Titan8 PWR S5 in the rear running an SFB 5000.1 and an SFB 200.4. Holds 12.8-13's until I drop into the 27-28hz range then pulls down to 12.4v but holds there for a full song. Love this battery.
You're wasting money by not doing the big 3, that's such an integral part of the equation.
5k on an 80amp alt? Damn. Big 3 will barely do shit. U need a bigger alt. Your amps must run hot as hell dipping into the 12s
I have a 240 amp. I might need to buy this 😂😂
@@akuma4u I just got a bass clef 6k on avatar stu 15 and I'm on stock alt and 220 ah agm, I dip to low 12s. Should I upgrade to 300 amp alt or xs power lithium bank first. Need help. My avatar has been getting warm after a couple songs of hard play. Amp doesn't get warm at all. Played for 30mins straight and amp bearly warm if any at all
@@RomaVilla are u dipping to low 12s while driving and playing or while parked and not pressing on throttle?
Let's see a head to head of the titan vs limitless 6k.... I'd watch that.
can you run a 120v mig welder and if so for how long? it would be really cool if could run for at least 10-20 min
So we can use this lithium with a high amp alternator correct?
Do y'all think it would be okay to run a "yinlong bank" 6s in parallel with one of these titan8's long as the voltage is the same on both batteries? Or does this sound like a bad idea? Thank y'all
Need one them batteries for my truck ... damn son
I like these little Titan 8,s bit man the cost .I guess it's worth it for ease of install,I mean dang bms and shunts balance,crap
Where's the video for the long term test... How did it do
Can I use them for stop start cars too?
I have a Taramps smart 3K will this one battery power that and my car at the same time? And still have good reserve?
I have a question hopefully somebody can help me out.. ok I got a Xs d5100r under the hood. 200amp alt and big three. And Xs power d5100Superbank in the back.. would this be a good battery to add in the back with what I have?
Question is is this better than the d7500 xs battery
What does a Lead acid do? I have nothing to reference that with. Thanks nice battery pull.
IDK about this battery specifically but on their website, limitless says their 15 amp hour limitless lithium battery is the equivalent of 150 amp hours of AGM. which would prob weigh around 100 lbs while the lithium only weighs about 12 pounds. that may give you a better idea about lithium batteries
Hey, i bought a titan 8 PwrS5 and RvrS5, strapped it with a 370amp mechman. Would this be an efficient for long hour play?
Depends on your draw, and how much power your system turns into heat
Did you never make a follow up video to this with rated power results?
So it's pulling well over9000 watts in a burst. How many amps is that? It's a better way to measure the actual current draw.Trying to determine the efficiency of an amplifier and work it out that way isn't very accurate
I'm going to guesstimate slow 800 or so amps?
Can you use this battery with a 370a alternator? Spec sheet shows 300a.
Is there a part 2 to this video?
The coolest thing about lto batteries is they will out live you. And they are super safe too.
Is this the 12v or 14 v one?
Can I replace my UPS battery with that battery, for more capacity? I have a 600 watts UPS in which I have my computer, 2 monitors and the router plug in. Can I use that battery? Thank you for your time and assistance!
So have you ever done testing of a titan8 with a sb500?
Man can these be run on stock alternator I would love to put around 5000 watts rms in my daily driver and be able to listen continuously without the voltage going to low would i need something more like this and a rsv5 if i can even do it with a stock alternator I have a 74AH lifepo4 battery and a ioxus ultra cap right now on 2k but I want to upgrade preferably to LTO if my alternator can handle it
What’s the name of the opening sound?
Can I use this battery as my primary ?my plan was to buy a 300 amp alt for my Mazda ,only gets to 13.8 volts max,and put it under the hood
Titanium dioxide batteries are better than phosphate for temp and load stability, but either way they both get scary if you over or under charge them. Get a battery voltage display, an oscilloscope, and make sure the system is working appropriately. If it’s all good then you’re golden.
Would love to have it, but I can’t afford it.
Can I use this bat as a daily?
Are these compatible with LTOs 12v cells
I would like to see the titan8 12v reserve power battery get tested on amp loads...
i have 5 of them, incredible
What's the wattage in your system?
Does the titan8 reserve hold up strong without the car being on or on high idle?
@@bigb5701 not just no but a Hell No! These are more like super super duper caps with a lil extra reserve
I can connect it together with an agm battery
I have a 3400r under the hood, 4 titan 8, and 2 titan 8 reserve. 7 total batteries. 400 amp mechman alternator. At approx 20,000 watts it holds 13 volts for 30 seconds. But the awesome thing is turn the volume down they are fully recharged ready to go in less than a minute. Love these batteries. Oh and did I mention they weigh 9lbs each! I had 1 3400r and 4 d7500 agm. That’s 470lbs of batteries. Now I have 63lbs of batteries and hold a higher voltage.
So 3500$ roughly in electrical for 30second demos?
@@matts53gmc I ended selling the titan 8’s. Trash. Especially for what they cost. Thought they were great at first because they recharged so fast. They are absolute crap. Fortunately most people don’t know that and I sold them for more than I paid for them because there was a shortage during Covid. I sold them used for higher than retail price. Replaced it with 240 ah Yinlong . $600 less. 20 times better. Now I can charge at 16, clamping 26,500 watts and very rarely see under 15 volts. Zero comparison.
Where is part2??
Part 2 ever happening?
Can these go under the hood?
ODYSSEY extreem batteries are good.
Where are the long term tests at? Let’s see it’s continuous power
This I would love to see. In theory the chemistry should be much better than agm and LiPo, but they’re all fickle if they’re not taken care of properly.
Why didn't you do the 1ohm burst instead of the 1.3 ohm
Intentionally holding power back a little. Gotta leave room to grow in future videos. I almost did this video @ only 2ohm.
Can this battery run a car
What happened to the Certified and Un-Certified tests?
Got any updates on the titan s5 battery?
I guess not 🙁
Probably fried it 🤣🤣🤣
Ampere Clamp Meter!!!
can anyone tell me whats the difference between the batts with the "R" and the ones without it? I've looked everywhere, cant seem to find any info
Reverse posts. My truck takes a d3400R
@@jreezee08 thanks!
You know what's funny. I'm trying to create a remote camping unit, and run air conditioning. Aircons draw power in bursts, which normal batteries haaaate. I'm hoping I can chase the 600watt hour draw with 600watt solar panels. Even if the solar doesn't match the aircon draw I should have plenty of power for hours. And is this thing seriously only 8lbs!?!?!?
The pwr-s5 are crazy small. I can fit two in my Silverado 1500 extra battery slot. 5”x5”x8” each… super light. 20ah in parallel, it’s nutty. They’re the closest to solid state that’s commercially available (those are probably a couple years out too).
they say add a zero to amp hours for AGM batteries to ensure wattage compatibility, so a 100ah battery is good for 1000 watt system. this doesn't seem to apply to lithium since most AH rating are between 10 and 30. is there a measurement for wattage with lithium batteries?
@BrianErwin- That is not the correct way to determine what any battery will support. Always go by the manufactures ratings. Example: In a battery test i seen One high performance battery designed for car audio= (1) group 31 Agm (100 Ah battery) supported 5,000 watts, with an alternator( unknow amp), vs in same vehicle with same alt., needed (2) regular lead acid group 31 batteries =( 160 Ah) to support 5,000 watts, so all batteries are not equal. And yes all types of battery technology's can have different rating's. All lithiums have a C rating= power rating, and you cannot compare 1 Ah rating of 1 brand with a different C rating. Again go by the manufacturers recommendations. Hope this helps?
@@evilinside5984 yes, that's helpful. i used to run four xs power g31 batteries, but trying to cross over to lithium. may run both, as i've seen videos on youtube that say running all lithium doesn't do that well.
@@BrianErwin- Yes its very nice that these Titan 8 S5 PWR batteries can work inline with lead acid, and Agm 12volt batteries, without isolators. Also, maybe slowly add a Titan 8, when you sell 1 Xs group 31 Agm, @ a time. But i would always have @ least 1 Agm up under the hood, as Lithium batteries suck for starting in the cold!
What kind of cells are in it?
I can make a 30ah battery thats about the size of a group 24 that will do 1400 CCA and 650 amps consistent so that rating seems fine to me
If I've ever wanted you to use your clamp itd have been for this... I mean christ bro u need a ten spot for some batteries? I got you just holla. Let's see the amps its actually putting out yo!
Any other companies that make direct fit lithium batteries that work under the hood?
@270trevon JP has his d4s lithium batts now on down4soundshop.com. I heard JP say in a UA-cam vid that his d4s lithium batts would indeed work in line with regular acid batts & agm batts. So I'm taking that as the down4sound lithium is perfectly ok for using underhood as main starting battery.
*270trevon if I am by chance mistaken & do happen to be wrong please lmk. I will be 1st to admit I'm no pro when it comes to lithium nor the different types of lithium being used in car audio these days. I have been reading up on it & learning all I can lately because I am wanting to go lithium in my build. I'm still amazed at times by some guys bass build at how well their voltage maintains completely steady & does not drop even under the heaviest bass drops & crazy amounts of power being drawn. 20k rms & these guys maintaining 15 plus volts & no drop... I love it & that's my goal for my build!
Do not put the D4S Lithium battery under the hood. I have one. The manual states not to
Lithium batteries have MUCH higher power density. Like lithium batteries put lead batteries to shame regarding raw output. Only thing with lithium batteries is that you can no longer focus on how many ah your system is pulling off of as a general supply. Its a completely different chemistry than any glass or acid battery so the numbers generally aren't comparable to each other because something entirely different is happening inside every lithium battery as opposed to every lead battery.
There are water based lead batteries that put out pretty crazy amperage, but they're prone to vibrational damage, and so putting them in an engine bay and hooking subs up to them is really a recipe for a car fire.
What's the difference between this and the yinlong cells? Seems like a large supercap bank might be more cost effective for burst power.
It could have yinlong cells in it, from what I'm aware the only real manufacturer of LTO is just a big warehouse in China. The difference is the cells in this would be the best of the best, when LTO first hit the market it was common to have a dud cell, hence why Big D's test was so poor. Not sure exactly how it works, if XS pays more for only good cells, or if they buy them in bulk and find the best themselves.
@@UniCrafter LTO is a battery chemistry not specific to Yinlong. Lishen and Shengquan both make LTO cells. The SQ 6.0ah cells are in the D4S batteries. They're 6ah and roughly 60c with the button welded caps. Lishen is about 20c and 18ah per bank. Yinlong is only about 8c real world.
These batteries have SCIB cells. They're high burst low AH, like 40-60c capable. Just not a lot of reserve though so plan accordingly. If you're somwhat handy you can hop on any diy lithium group and figure out what works for you. These are still a pretty solid off the shelf option.
@@NavyNate123 Ah right, wasn't sure yet if manufacturing had expanded, also 60c from something other than LiPo is nuts, yinlong seem to quote 15c, and a pair of 40ah Ive seen do 500a at 13 volts, so possibly capable of 10kw power also. Really neat stuff.
@@NavyNate123 Can you suggest what specs/brands/models I should look for if I want a good amount of reserve for fast and long bass songs? I'd probably never competition "burp" my system, so burst speed could be secondary to longevity in my build... I'll be pulling less than 4k watts, so I'd prefer to keep additional gear to a minimum as long as it keeps things stable. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, but I guess I will have to miss all your short videos and offers. No reason to down another app just to follow 1 group.
Might be a noob question but why is the battery not grounded?
Doesn’t need to be grounded to supply power. It’s being used like a solo power supply in this video
The battery IS a ground.
That's 1300$ worth of lithium right? It better do 5000 watt burst. Nice test 9k plus is impressive.
Each titan 8 PWR is $600
I think it can do 5000 burst
Do u have to have a isolator
no real point in having one i believe
If you want to run it with a different battery chemistry then yes.
@@NavyNate123 but why,i run the d4s lithium with my front agm
45ah Cmax test. See how much it crushes the titan for less than the titan.
Cmax cells can only withstand 150A max load, 100A sustained. Thats nothing. This is rated for up to 2000A load. For the purposes that the Titan8 was made, no Cmax cells can even compete.
@@faaaaq 150A per cell maybe. A 45ah cmax with good charging will support like 12k burps.
@@dankdaily5134 A couple decent AGMs with "good charging" will support 12k burps too.. Im running an XS AGM and a stock 200a alt and my system "supports" burps well over 3k so Im not sure what your point even is, really.. And "good charging" is a term that means nothing. What is "good?" Five 350a alts? A 275a alt? Multiple external generators? Its all relative. If using Cmax batteries was some magic pill, XS would just buy them bulk and sell them repackaged in a simple to use and install kit and not bother with the R&D costs of making something like the Titan8.. There is no magical perfect product that is useful in every situation or the best in every situation, your beloved Cmax cells and the Titan8 follow that same rule.
So what happened
It would be interesting to see what a Yellow
Top battery can do in comparison
nothing.. it is not a comparison
1st
@Hannibal Lector rofl!
What I don’t get is you can get 12 individual cells to get 80ah for about the same price. Why would someone pay that much for this one at only 10ah?
Look at the other specs. People buying this for a stereo arent buying it for amp hours, amp hours alone means nothing when it comes to powering a monster stereo. Look up those 80ah cells and compare their max amperage to this one's: 2000A. The Titan8 can supply a 2000A load (peak, not sustained obvs). There is a middleground, though. XS makes a variant of these that has double the amp hours but can only support half the wattage/amperage. Costs similar, though.
@@faaaaq So for someone who just wants one for daily use and just keeping the volume pretty high while cruising around which one would you recommend?
Can you add it to a system with limitless?
Don't want to mix different lithium chemistries. The Gorilla series possibly since it's also SCIB technology. I wouldn't recommend it though.
3 of these titan power 8s or 2 jy hp 40s
Dd m5a wired to half and about 1300 rms on mids and tweets?
14.7-14.8 charging hot
Singer 390 amp alternator
236 at idle
295 at 2k
415 at 3k rpm
Demoing and daily driver.
Yeah but the charger is on its not a standalone battery test
Do you disconnect your alternator at competitions/bumpin through the street? More a real life example if anything. Videos like this aren’t scientific anyway. It’s all anecdotal. Easy to do editing magic. Definitely do your own tests, but it’s something to give a general idea
5000W on a 120Whr battery will only last 86s
I thought lithium hours were different den agm
when the batt coat more than entire system
Wot In the Declue is going on here
Ain't that the truth
@allmotorharsh if these batteries costs more than your entire system then you really need to step up your bass game bra! One would have to be using some cheap a** amp, budget sub, poor prefab enclosure, budget wire etc... Noway in the world does this battery cost more than any legit system! I'll be the first to admit that yes I think lithium is expensive but so is most everything else car audio related IF its good, quality gear! If your system is less expensive than this xs power lithium then it must be a bass package you bought that included your subs already wired & mounted in a cheap pre fab w/amp & amp wire kit all included in the package. That's the kind of system I don't want. Yes some of the more expensive bass packages are decent but still nothing that would satisfy meeee.
@allmotorharsh,, you are correct, now that I started doing some math,, I have a couple's thousands in my vehicle,,2/0 runs twice from front to back was a couple hundred,, I just hate to not use the batteries I have in my trunk,,lol. Much love for all you bass heads 💚💜💚
WOW NO FUSING HUH :/ NEVER IN MY HOUSE WHEN I BENCH TESTING AMPS :/ ALL MY EQUIPMENT IS FUSED DOWN PERIOD........... AKA SAFETY FIRST NUMBERS LATER....
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These Batteries are STUPID WHO THE HELL IS LISTENING TO BURST SOUNDS ?? 5000 WATTS FOR 1 SECONDS?
Spl competition
Bruh