Reviewing & Testing the JY Power NXT-2KF hybrid capacitor/lithium battery
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2023
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Hifi questiemon can u run multiple NXT
@@mester84 yes, in fact I’m running 2 of them right now.
That joker is LEGIT!
2 legit to quit some might say 😬
@@HifiVega that's you and Big "D"!!! And that thing is awesome! Things have changed a little since the 90's or early 00's, eh? Lol Keep rockin' gentlemen! Love the videos.... Gotta go watch Big "D" now... You boys behave and have a great day!
Love these vids. Keep em coming!!
I really dig these kinds of test/demo vids that showcase the performance of gear and how it can benefit in a given application.
Excited to see JY Power's next iteration of this item... 💪🏽🔥
They’re some of my favorite videos to do for sure!
Been waiting to see this review. I purchased mine back on October 1, 2022 from Down 4 Sound but been waiting to install it. Great to know it was worth the cost & performs like expect too.
You won’t be disappointed
Got 2 about to be installed 👍 thanks for the video
Killing it! Vega!
Finally!! Thanks for the review
Thanks for watching
Great job Vega!! Perfect info regarding power, upgrade possibilities, price, and results... Excellent product, Excellent review!!
Thanks!
Yourself as well as Big D, are Sincere Audiophiles... Love what you Fellas are doing for the people in this Great Country that love music, Extremely Loud 🔊
Thrilled I grabbed one on b-stock sale. Perfect solution for limited space in my 92 s-10 standard cab
Thank you for the information from the JY Power Hybrid. 👌✌️🥇
Thanks for watching!
awesome little piece of equipment, I need this in my life
I agree on both accounts!
Lil beast! 👍🏻
Interesting gray colored digital displays.
I’d like to see this done to similar a full setup.. 100amp supply to 80ah battery, to this jy using it like a headway or super bank type setup.. and see if this will hold power over a music track at full tilt..
I need this its gonna stay up with a alt hooked up to it
4 of those together would be a beast
For sure
Can’t wait to use my nxt
You’ll be impressed
If you have a stock alt then I'd definitely recommend it
That's crazy for something that can literally fit in your pocket. The guys jumpstarting cars with Milwaukee drill batteries are gonna be so jealous.
😂
Man I been on the fence about what to use to help with my headlights dimming for a couple months now and once again you are rite there to show another option .....I have to do something the jp231.5v2 and dual 2 american bass xr 12 .....I ran some 0 guage this weekend from where I had my grounds on each side of the extra cab from the floor pan over to frame and I plan at moment on putting a stinger agm for 2000watts + in the extra cab in next couple weeks I just hope it will be enough to handle 2 xr12 d2s because eventually I will be adding one more although the one xr 12 d2 is very impressive by its self ....need to figure out how help with lights....if the agm doesn't do it ....going to go even larger with alternator rite now I am only running about 25 more volts than stock ....thinking about a 250 volt ....which would be about double what I have currently....
I'm getting one of these
Nice rob,I've been one of Travis's biggest cheerleaders for this little monster..when a smart3 bass @1/2 ohm doesn't drop below 13.6
That’s solid!
@@HifiVega love u and Derek's stuff ..and being able to be friends with guys like Travis and Greg Corbin has been awesome.
That's an awesome option for someone that just needs a little more
The perfect first upgrade for a reasonable sized system
How many of these would it take to pull 800-900 amps continuously ?
Do u have to charger them?
Nice looking piece of equipment and I love capacitors 😂 but this thing is kind of expensive to each their own
I might buy 1 or 2 lol
Like I said I love caps
Now I know the limit on my test bench 👀
Add this instead of that boss capacitor boys 🔥
The Boss has voltmeters doe!
@@HifiVega man…. You’re right 🥲
Awesome.
🤟🏼
Do you charge these? And how? Up to what voltage? I have a NOCO GENIUS1 It says lithium charging on it. Can i use it to charge the JY Power NXT-2KF?
It's so small... Glad for new technology
Me too!
I have a rd 1000/1 mono and 2 12w3v3 4. I’m gonna add an hd600/4 and 4 k2 coaxial speakers. Do you think one of these will work for me or am I going to have to upgrade my alternator and get a bigger battery. Any help would be awesome. Ty
Nice video buddy keep them coming.
That little NXT thing seems to packs a punch.
Can you share your Suggestion for the below.
Do you think running an isolator between the stock battery and this hybrid unit will be better.
I have a lighting set up with 550W,
Now planning to add an audio system with all amps combined rms power of 1500Watts which will run 3way front, 2 rear effect speakers, a front sub and a rear Sub. I basically an SQL guy.
My Stock Alternator is rated at 140amps.
I would not run an isolator in this particular set up. The capacitor will work best when wired with your main battery imo
@@HifiVega
Thanks Man👍
Just ordered off your link. Hopefully it stops my lights dimming. I have a everstart h8 agm and 140amp alternator in a q5 on a kicker kxa1200.1@1ohm. Major dimming
It should definitely help
I think i'll have fun with the three i have 😁 between them and a JP40 i should be able to keep the two Sundown SAZ 15th anniversaries happy that i'll have strapped on a Zv6 12"
That’s a lot of juice!
@@HifiVega i have another JP40, but thats for the fall project of swapping in a JP63 and running it at 2 ohms
Where exactly should you or could you place this device reason I'm asking is im fairly new to lithium and super caps/Hybrid caps and right now I have the ioxus ultra cap and a 74AH lev60 pro V2 from jag35 works great for my setup 1800.1 on two Q-class L7 12 im told it can push more than double that on just the lithium i don't know but I'm running that with an isolator and my lead acid up front for the car unfortunately the ioxus is way to big to go up front could i put this in my battery bay under the hood and run it as a buffer between the alternator and the lithium I know it is not needed for what I'm currently running I don't even get a volt drop but I want to upgrade to around 5-6000 watts rms between the trunk and mids/highs and I was thinking with what this is rated for as well as the other two I'm wondering if I can't use this like I asked and go ahead and upgrade
I need one of these with an LTO chemistry for a buffer for my front stage amps
These are good up to 16 volts, it will run with your LTO just fine unless you're charging over 16.
@@BlueTegu360 ah OK, I'll have to check with the guy who supplies my lithium cells, cheers for the tip mate
@@bradmeek that should be under 16 volt!! Not over. Please don't charge over 16 volts lol.
Yea boi
Uncle Bobby B coming thru early!
Was hoping to see you test 2 of the NXTs with a single power supply.
I like to keep the electrical stock, as newer cars get complicated and it's more reliable to keep it mostly factory. I currently have one of these powering a Taramps Smart3 and dual 12" Sundowns. When I push it, my headlights still dim. I think two would be perfect.
This is what I needed to read!! I just order a second NXT and my first Smart 3, hoping it stays above 13.5 with just them, a small under hood AGM and the big 2 I did lol (ground from battery to chassis, charge cable)
@@BlueTegu360 don’t sleep on you grounds.
@@BlueTegu360 Ground engine to chassis, that is the most important!
Add a agm battery to that capacitor.
Those are freaking awesome. Crazy that that little guy will do about the same as my big, cumbersome, battery 😳😳
Tiny and mighty
How does this compare to the IOXUS Powercap? I just installed one and can definitely tell the difference.
I haven’t gotten to compare them directly yet, but I have both and like both.
That resting voltage is high at 15v. Im new to lithium, this mix with say my two agm batteries that rest at 12.8, 12.4 ish when sitting for a few days doesn't affect them negatively? This would probably be the best thing for my setup. I have a Singer 350a, two Northstar batteries, gp ofhc 1/0 big 4 and all gp ofhc 1/0 wire into my distro to power two crescendo symphony amps(s4 and s1v2). Sometimes when my voltage dips, my smd vm-1 shows when it recuperates, it spikes sometimes to 15.5v, if it's a higher frequency bass tone. I take this would smooth the spike ?
This battery will just be pulled down to the operating range of your batteries, but it’s still within the operating range and will help.
@@HifiVega gotcha that’s great news then. I figured but didn’t want to potentially overcharge my setup. Thanks for the reply!
HiFi is that a capacitor in your pocket or you just happy to see me
Sorry recycled material
Love your channel & efforts
You should buy a sparked Innovations "conductor"! It'll tell you real time amperage up to 999 amps! I got one and it's lovely!
I ordered one first day of release!
@@HifiVega yep, me too lol👍
DAMN!
Right
What if your got a couple of those to run say 6, 8 or 10 thousand watt amps on the 200amp power supply?
Could you do a test that way?
I feel like at that point you can probably find a battery that would work better for you. Maybe a diy headway bank, or a HP40
@@HifiVega exactly, was just wondering about it for testing purposes to see what multiples could do. Hopefully they will come out with a larger version soon and keep the cost down.
I think with everything cranked I drop to 11. Something volts been weighing options. Was leaning towards a xs power d3400
Agm is ole reliable, but I’d consider lithium for sure.
@@HifiVega yeah for my everyday driver I'm looking for the most cost effective choice but get the best voltage I can without dropping
Wow that is definitely impressive at $299.99 USD i wouldn't expect any less. I can see my self-using maybe 3 to 4 of these along with a D3400 under the hood and a 320 amp Mechman Alternator to keep them charged up. Vs larger heavy batteries.
It definitely surprised me
$900-1200….. I would think there is much better idea for the money.
But whatever makes you happy!💯
@Top Shelf Innovations what makes you think that this makes me happy? Lol! You guys and your comments 😅 all i said was what i stated in the comment. An opinion.
Look is this expensive? Absolutely are there better options out there for a much lower price? Im not sure, this is the first time i hear of these caps and this shape and weight, i like the idea of their small size and big performance. Based on the shape and size alone they can go in a spare tire location for cars that cant have full size extra batteries.
XS power has their little cylinder caps that look like soda cans and those cost a quite a bit too. I see those much harder and dangerous to work with, ive already seen people settinf their cars on fire with those because of the way they are installed. In my channel i have a saying: (Go with what you can afford at the moment or if you really want the pricey gear, save up the money till you have what you need for your unique system build) unfortunately people have different income strengths, some have loads of cash and some don't. So I try not to push what I buy on others. Again that's just an opinion. 😁👌
3-4 /900-1200$ for that price your options would significantly change as far batteries this would only be feasible if price comes down or you are extremely limited on space
@your mom well, of course i would prefer for the price to come down, thats why i also said i wouldnt expect any less for the $299.99 price lol but in my reply to the other dude i did talk about space limitations or weight limit as well. Those XS power full-size batteries like the D3400, for example, aren't light, but they definitely are cheaper than these. These remind me of power wheel batteries, but for car audio 😅 and would go great in a spare tire location for cars that cant have full size batteries for an audio system. I think when it comes to tech we are going in the right direction but just not price wise, i agree that it is definitely excessive.
Does it work when combined with something like the D4S lto 6.0?
It will work in line with that battery.
Would this pair well with my audio legion 1600 and 100amp alt running at 1 ohm? Wonder if ibwould stay above 14
This one won’t keep it above 14 by itself. It’s mostly meant to keep you from dropping to dangerous low voltage levels
I'm running a taramps Bass 3k on 2 skar 12's . Stock alternator. I'm dropping voltage bad. Would this help?
It would definitely help. I don’t know if it alone would be enough though
So to install in the car, would you just cut this in line on existing amp power and ground cables?
Front battery to the nxt then nxt to the distro then distro to amps
@@HifiVega and ground side the same?
So I have a 240 watt alt and approximately 3000w so this might be a nice little addition.. I'm in an ext cab truck so it's small enough I could put it about anywhere.
Could I add this onto my stock battery, would I need to add anything else to make sure I don’t break it?
You can run this inline with your stock battery without adding anything else inline. That’s how I run it in my truck
@@HifiVegathank you so much man🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 I’ve been looking everywhere for an answer.
I'm running a Taramps MD1200.1 @0.67 ohm, 55ah of AGM under the hood, an NXT, and a stock 130ish amp alt, 14.8 charge voltage, and I don't drop below 13.8 wide open on music.
Nice!
Nice, so if I was to get one of these nxt-2kf would I jus come from my agm under the hood to this nxt then to a fuse then off to my amp? Is a battery isolator needed or do you need to charge it every few weeks or will it charge while vehicle is running?
@@johnnypiper1717 I have mine run just like you would a second battery. It's fused on both ends (right after the main battery under the hood, than just before the NXT) then the power goes to a another fuse then to my amp. It will charge in parallel with the agm.
The thing I've noticed over the last couple of weeks that's it's been above freezing, is even when the car sits for 8-12 hours the voltage is still above 13 when I go to start it. I'm so happy with it I just ordered a second one and a Taramps smart 3 🤘
@BlueTegu360 sounds like a winner then might have to get me one of these little guys then. You wouldn't happen to know what kind of charger you would use to charge the nxt would you? Thanks alot. I'm getting a 320A mechman with xs4900 agm and if I add the nxt I know for sure I be good since my amp is jus a DD M2000
@@johnnypiper1717 You don't need to charge them, they come precharged around 13.5 volts and are ready to go. Being super capacitors they'll go from 13.5-14.8 almost instantaneously after a start if you haven't gotten into the AGMs reserve.
It's still a bit crazy to me that this little box is basically running my whole car because my voltage never gets to the point that the AGM is doing any work at all.
Just has to ask: Does it have a safety feature? What happens if you short it at full charge?
I am unaware of exactly what bms if any this houses
@@HifiVega Do you have a Fuse or Circuit Breaker between this and your main/starting battery?
I am looking for something for my Rockford Fosgate Power BD1.1500 running 2 12inch T1s . killing my Civic and looking for an alternative to a High Output Alternator.and unable to add larger battery due to area..
any info on recommendations..?
2 of these would certainly help
An alt is going to be around the same price. An Alt should be the first thing you should do. Then big 4. Then batteries
I am looking at Alternator but for the 2020 1.5L having a time finding one and..in the civic forums seems like they mess.with the ecm and car.. it is my daily driver so I am trying to.figure out something. need around a 250Amp HO Alternator. that is Factory bolt on . have not given up the search still looking...
but running
the JL Audio VXI 8.800 multi and rockford 1.1500 mono
ROCKFORD T3 components front and some old Pheonix Gold companies for rear fill.
I will figure it out but this avenue does intrigue me.
You showed us the load with the NXT, show us the load without the NXT.
Do you need to “charge” them before installing?
It’s best practice to do so
Place this battery closer to sub amp or closer to under hood battery?
Closer to the amp
@@HifiVega Thank you 🫡
Will this pair ok with Rockford T1500 BDCP?
For sure
@@HifiVegaalright bought one and just got here today. What would you recommend to charge it with before installation? I’m looking online and not sure which to go with. Thanks in advance.
@@Somchine13 I don’t think you need to charge it before installation
@@HifiVega ok thank you
Wonder how it would do vs the xs power 630 farad ultracap. Hard to believe how many farad anything really is
I plan on comparing it to a ioxus cap at some point
@@HifiVega it won't disappoint
@@HifiVega I'm assuming you are talking about an Ioxus UC-31. If so, how do you think they will compare? I'm looking at getting a UC-31 because a b stock is pretty cheap. Wondering if this for $300 compared to the UC-31 for $130 would be worth it. Thoughts?
@@R1Raven_ I've run both, this holds my voltage 0.5-0.8 volts higher than the 1000 farard Ioxus I had on the same system. Given the size difference it's hard to believe. The thing to keep in mind is the Hybrid caps (like the NXT) don't have near the same discharge rate as the EDLC supercaps, but they are 10x more energy dense. So for systems under 2000 RMS the NXT is the better option imo. Not just because it's smaller, but also because it has more reserve capacity. If space isn't as much of an issue I'd just run a small LiFEPO4 lithium bank with an AGM under the hood. You can run LiFePO4 and AGM without an isolator with no issues.
@@BlueTegu360 good info. Thanks for that. I originally had a Yellowtop and 3 Kinetik BLU batts but they didn't play nice with each other and the Kinetiks all swelled and had to trash them.
I wonder if you can put them under the hood of a vehicle?
I don’t think this is underhood safe
@@HifiVega I went to the site and looked for some info, but like any lithium battery you can’t put it under the hood so I’m going to take your advice
What kind of Harry potter wizardry is in the little guy? I am 100% impressed.
I was too!
@HifiVega I in no way expected it to run that amp stand alone that well.
So its good for about 50a of current short term
For peaks much more, but as is it’s more of a capacitor than a battery. Being a hybrid it’ll surprise you though.
@hackmunch3949- The manufacture has rated this little super cap/battery combo/hybrid, for 60Amp continuous= not short term as you said. Peak, or burst= short term probably around 120Amps! The thing that helps this little unit out, is that it is a Hybrid= battery= more stable duration+ a super capacitor!
While it's a cool piece, honestly, for the price.... I just don't think so. Few hundred more and you could get a legit lithium battery that will walk all over this.
The thing about those cells is they cant take the beating that a normal cap can tge max amps one of those 18650 size caps is 60a so a small pack of them cant handle that much
I think this device only really makes sense if your alternators can basically totally power the load, and this is able to clean up the ripple from the alternator, but not really able to support much more load than your alternators can provide. contrast that to a lithium brank that pretty much makes the alternators irrelevant as long as you give enough time to recharge.
If it really is 2000F, that's pretty much 0.6AH per volt lost. if your amplifier is drawing 120A more than the alternator can provide, you are dropping like 2V every 0.01 hours, so about every 36 seconds. if you started out at 16V, you're at 14V in half a minute, and that isn't even counting the voltage sag from the initial load.
That being said, if you compare it against lead acid in a system where the alternators can deliver the current demands of the amplifier, that capacitor would probably smooth the ripple as well as a full size car battery while being tiny and being able to be placed right next to the amplifier. It's nifty if a bit pricy for it's actual capacity, but could be useful if you are too space constrained to have a bunch of batteries.
"If it really is 2000F" well 400% of a 3000F bank would be 12000F and with it being a "hybrid" is kind of a moot point as far as capacitance goes as batteries are not rated in Farads. Ripple is the reason audio caps came out, was never to be a substitute for reserve, it was to get rid of noise. Have you ever opened one of those sad excuses of a "capacitor"? just a couple small caps, some goo and a chunk of concrete! yeah that's not a joke! (well it is but in a different way)
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 I think you are conflating modern Lithium Hybrid supercaps with old ~1F car audio caps.
The old caps that people used were definitely useless but these are useful in a way but the energy density isn’t quite enough to replace a battery.
If you look at suppliers that actually make these like Taiyo Yuden, they are totally rated in Farads. They aren’t quite the same as batteries.
Still not sure how useful they are, but they are sort of in their own class.
@@pjtruslow That is what I was referring to the old.5-10fared caps. They were meant to filter noise/ripple as you had mentioned ripple.
I run lithium (NMC) and supercaps (Eaton 2.7 3000F cells).
I have no idea what this "hybrid" shit is but I don't care, $400 for that joke is asinine! I don't care what "technology" they label it as, that tiny thing is not replacing your battery and is a gimmick at best!
None the less, kudos to them, they are just playing the game and know for every product there's a fool who will buy it! Considering there's pretty much no set standards or rules to abide by in car audio, they are literally laughing in our faces and not even trying to hide it!
These farads ads aren't the same as say maxwell 3000f farads these are a marketing gimic ive been researching these four months now they are regular 18650 lithium battery except one of the anodes has been replaced with a graphene anode and graphene is what's used in supercapacitors so they're calling it a hybrid when by definition you cannot have a hybrid between a capacitor and a battery because one stores electrical charge between two plates the other has a chemical reaction between two elements creating electricity so they're two completely different methods of making voltage and amperage that's like saying I have a hybrid between outer space and human being it's like we you can't your human being likewise you can't blend a capacitor with a battery their very nature is different and the maximum amperage for a one-second burst is 60 amps even though it's rated at like 4000f each you still can only pull 60a thats nothing compared to a maxwell 3000f cap which can do 2700f Short Circuit.
Hell you can get a123 18650 cells that are rated at 50a continuous for 1.50$ per cell right now and build your own pack for 1/3 the price of this clown
I have a better idea. Get 2 and run them on the 90 amp power supply!
Stay tuned! I plan on running 2 of these in the trooper on my 90 amp alt
No longer at $300
I knew a price change was incoming and was hoping folks would pick it up before that
@@HifiVega Dont think its worth it anymore being priced so close to bigger battery's now
I just saw this. I would've bought it at $300, but at $390, it's a pass.
@HifiVega- I know you do thing's legit, and sparked has legit stuff, but @8:26 into this video, there is no way that amperage reading is correct? In the test where your SMD Amm-1 showed a max power of 18?? Watts, and pulling 133 max amps, but on the next test where your Amm-1 showed 23?? Watts, how was the max amperage shown, only 6 amps more, making 500 watts more= that's not possible! To make another 500 watts more, with more voltage drop, approx., 60+ amps more would had to have been pulled! Then with a 200 amp power supply, @9:45 into this video, the amperage showed 259amps, while making 2,876 watts, dropping to 11.2 volts! The 259 amps seems much more like it, but im not sure why it only showed 139 amps, making 23?? watts= wrong. Thanks for testing, the power results speak for themselves, this is a great little unit!
I was having problems with the sparked conductor, but have since moved all the power and ground on it and fixed the issue. That’s why I typically didn’t have that turned on, but missed it on this video
@@HifiVega- Thanks for your response. Oh, okay. Love your video's.
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Last time I promise 🤞🏼