What makes a brand homages vs microbrsnd. Is it the fact that they are from Europe, I have never seen a Europe brand being labeled as homage while on the other hand any Asian brand that makes a watch that looks remotely similar to any other brand is quickly dismissed as homage.
A microbrand defines the nature of the brand. IE Independently owned, small brand. Homage defines the nature of the watch. IE using many design elements derived from an existing watch. They are not mutually exclusive. A microbrand can release an homage watch, for example.
Sugess is usually regarded as real, a few Chinese watches receive microbrand treatment. I just bought a new watch and was stuck between Tissot and sugess and the Sugess was legitimately just so much better than the tissots in my price range and even better than some citizen bargains
No. Not even close. "homages" are simply watches that replicate the look of famous watches of established brands (not are simply "inspired to". They look the same until you are close enough to read the brand's name). This is not a homage because it doesn't replicate the look of ANY particular watch. There are tons of tricompax panda watches out there. None can claim to have a primacy over that. Venezianico doesn't make homages. Every of their watches is original, even if it can have something in common (IE the material of the dial, but not the indexes, or the case, for example) with some other model out there. SOME brand makes both homages and original watches (San Martin, or Sugess, IE). Some makes only homages or, at best, just mixes elements of two famous watches (IE a Daytona dial with a Speedmaster case).
For the difference between "homage" and "inspired to", take the Sugess GMT Diver and the Rdunae R3 Seahorse (they are BOTH Chinese). The Sugess is an HOMAGE, of a Rolex GMT Master II. The Rdunae is INSPIRED to the Exactus Aquamax of 1967. You can't tell apart the Sugess from the Rolex until you are close enough to read the dial. Even if you are one of the few that knows about the 1967 Exactus Aquamax, you can easily tell it apart from the Rdunae, since the Rdunae takes only the dial's design and the double crown from the original, but it's different in every other respect (dimensions, shape of the case, crystal...).
With the Hamilton being found on many gray markets at $1500 I would say the value proposition here is tough. If they could have kept the case finishing and thrown in mecha quarts chrono and been under $500 that would have allowed them to be in a different price category to reach a different market that Higher end swiss watches can't cater to.
Venezianico is great I have the tungsten nereide diver and it's amazing. Now they released also the 39mm and it's even better!!! The agata looks insane
Hey, I’ve been watching your content since last summer and man you’re great at what you do and I’m sure many others will see that, I bet you’ll be among the top 5 channels in a few years. When do you think to start to make long form content again, It’s great but I watched all of it in a brief. Keep it up!
@@watchstrapguy Just have a lot on my plate right now and I don't want to spread myself too thin and do a mediocre job on everything. Later this year when things calm down I should (fingers crossed) have some more time to dedicate to long form.
Italian design and Japanese precision. Sounds like a great combination. It's a very good movement as well, featuring a column wheel and vertical clutch, basically unheard of in this price point.
Since when Hamilton has better finishing? It's dial is a FAR simpler, printed, thing, it's thicker, l2l is only 0.8mm shorter and, accuracy-wise, I'll bet on the Seiko, that also has column wheel and vertical clutch.
It's underutilized compared to its main competitor, the Valjoux 7750. Even though the NH88 has a few upgrades and is thinner. But I guess the "swiss made" label is quite important to some
Haha. In short, I think it can be summed up as "clicking is fun". Sure, it can be a useful tool at times, but it's not something I use regularly, even when wearing a chronograph. But it sure is fun, and they look cool imo!
@ChronometerCheck No worries, I was just checking because I wasn't sure if there was a different movement than I knew about. Like a step down from the NE series or a new release. By the way, the NE88 is a ridiculously good movement. It's an 8r series movement that in seiko watches goes for more than this.
To measure intervals of time up to 12 hours using the chronograph. A rarity in many chronographs at this level, they'll more often have a 24 hour indicator showing you the hour of the current time on a 24-hour scale.
Knock off of what? It's not like Hamilton has some primacy on panda dials, and the cases are completely different. The Venezianico one is simply done better, for about the same price, with a similar style.
This whole advertisement is inaccurate misleading and typical invitation for a cash grab. Anyone can buy cheaper, better more respected brand than this
I've been waiting for months for you to finally touch base on venezianico. I hope there's much more to follow.
Thanks bud! Will see. :)
Beautiful watch
What makes a brand homages vs microbrsnd. Is it the fact that they are from Europe, I have never seen a Europe brand being labeled as homage while on the other hand any Asian brand that makes a watch that looks remotely similar to any other brand is quickly dismissed as homage.
A microbrand defines the nature of the brand. IE Independently owned, small brand.
Homage defines the nature of the watch. IE using many design elements derived from an existing watch.
They are not mutually exclusive. A microbrand can release an homage watch, for example.
Sugess is usually regarded as real, a few Chinese watches receive microbrand treatment. I just bought a new watch and was stuck between Tissot and sugess and the Sugess was legitimately just so much better than the tissots in my price range and even better than some citizen bargains
No. Not even close.
"homages" are simply watches that replicate the look of famous watches of established brands (not are simply "inspired to". They look the same until you are close enough to read the brand's name).
This is not a homage because it doesn't replicate the look of ANY particular watch. There are tons of tricompax panda watches out there. None can claim to have a primacy over that.
Venezianico doesn't make homages. Every of their watches is original, even if it can have something in common (IE the material of the dial, but not the indexes, or the case, for example) with some other model out there.
SOME brand makes both homages and original watches (San Martin, or Sugess, IE).
Some makes only homages or, at best, just mixes elements of two famous watches (IE a Daytona dial with a Speedmaster case).
@@james3341 There are several legit Chinese microbrands, as Rdunae, or Phoibos.
For the difference between "homage" and "inspired to", take the Sugess GMT Diver and the Rdunae R3 Seahorse (they are BOTH Chinese).
The Sugess is an HOMAGE, of a Rolex GMT Master II.
The Rdunae is INSPIRED to the Exactus Aquamax of 1967.
You can't tell apart the Sugess from the Rolex until you are close enough to read the dial.
Even if you are one of the few that knows about the 1967 Exactus Aquamax, you can easily tell it apart from the Rdunae, since the Rdunae takes only the dial's design and the double crown from the original, but it's different in every other respect (dimensions, shape of the case, crystal...).
I love this brand! I feel like it doesn't get enough recognition, their products are high quality and have a fantastic design, in my opinion
Thank you very much for this wonderful effort ❤❤❤
Oof, that is wonderful...and, yeah, definitely giving your Hammy a fit. Price is actually more than fair.
Good looking watch, but I don't think much can beat that classic styling.
Yeah, I agree. The Hammy is an absolute classic
Very nice. I like how they played on the panda theme without being derivative or homage-y.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a Vacheron💀
Hahha
I was thinking Vinchero ( spelling ?? )
With the Hamilton being found on many gray markets at $1500 I would say the value proposition here is tough. If they could have kept the case finishing and thrown in mecha quarts chrono and been under $500 that would have allowed them to be in a different price category to reach a different market that Higher end swiss watches can't cater to.
Yeah, I agree with that. Would like to see more automatic chronographs in this price range in general with different styles in general, personally
Venezianico is great I have the tungsten nereide diver and it's amazing. Now they released also the 39mm and it's even better!!! The agata looks insane
Wait, they have a 39mm version? I didn’t see it on their website.
@@eloneatmyshorts yes nereide tungsteno 39 in two color variants!
@@alex_romancinooh I see. No I wanted the Bucintoro in 39/40mm. Darn.
I mean, the sugess 1963 panda comes close to the Hamilton as well
In looks, I completely agree
I completely agree. They just ooze style, great finishing too, I think same standard as Hamilton without heritage.
And one small but important missing part - they are not Swiss.
Why on the earth they should cost as Swiss?
For reference: the ne88 is 0.3mm thinner than a 7750. That's not much.
Hey, I’ve been watching your content since last summer and man you’re great at what you do and I’m sure many others will see that, I bet you’ll be among the top 5 channels in a few years. When do you think to start to make long form content again, It’s great but I watched all of it in a brief. Keep it up!
Thanks so much, I truly appreciate your support and encouragement. I do plan to return to long-form this year, should all go according to plan!
What needs to happen for long form content to happen?
@@watchstrapguy Just have a lot on my plate right now and I don't want to spread myself too thin and do a mediocre job on everything. Later this year when things calm down I should (fingers crossed) have some more time to dedicate to long form.
@@ChronometerCheck fair enough!
it is missing a day window and it would be perfect
Out of Venice with a Seiko movement.😂
Italian design and Japanese precision. Sounds like a great combination. It's a very good movement as well, featuring a column wheel and vertical clutch, basically unheard of in this price point.
And a Chinese dial and case... As every micro brand out there. Seiko movements are great, Chinese cases too if they want to keep the prices down
Nice watch.💯👍
Very nice!
NH88 or NE88?
Oh my god, time to get a new watch haha
Hamilton has better finishing, higher accuracy, swiss movement, more universal sizing, and a date…..
Since when Hamilton has better finishing?
It's dial is a FAR simpler, printed, thing, it's thicker, l2l is only 0.8mm shorter and, accuracy-wise, I'll bet on the Seiko, that also has column wheel and vertical clutch.
great quality watches
How much it cost?
50mm l2l is wild... Imo.
👍
It's very nice
Pitzmann Chronograph has
the same Seiko movement,
has a date, is more beautiful
and cheaper.
Fair enough! I didn't realize it runs on the NH88 but you're right! That makes a fantastic option
@@ChronometerCheck
Seiko 8R48/NE86
I’ll stick to wearing an anvil , or a boat anchor .
At what point in a watch collection do you check out micro brands?
Whenever you want. There are no rules
1500? That's crazy.
nice
It actually.looks better than the Hammy
The case is kinda meh. I'll be going for the new Pitzmann 3.
This is first time I heard about nh88
It's underutilized compared to its main competitor, the Valjoux 7750. Even though the NH88 has a few upgrades and is thinner. But I guess the "swiss made" label is quite important to some
why are there so many watches with (useless) chronographs? I’d rather have a date and day indicator instead .
Haha. In short, I think it can be summed up as "clicking is fun". Sure, it can be a useful tool at times, but it's not something I use regularly, even when wearing a chronograph. But it sure is fun, and they look cool imo!
У мужчины должны быть часы!
Not bad.
Is it the nh88 or ne88?
Edit - I'm pretty sure it's an ne88, but i could be wrong.
You are correct. My mistake
@ChronometerCheck No worries, I was just checking because I wasn't sure if there was a different movement than I knew about. Like a step down from the NE series or a new release.
By the way, the NE88 is a ridiculously good movement. It's an 8r series movement that in seiko watches goes for more than this.
@@ChronometerCheck Cheers brother
Intramatic > That watch
If you need a new home for the Hamilton, please let me know 😂
What is that strap?
Looks like original factory leather from this Bucintoro model
only 42? 42 isn't only anything. give it to me in 38 and i'll consider it
Whats the 12 hr dial for?
To measure intervals of time up to 12 hours using the chronograph. A rarity in many chronographs at this level, they'll more often have a 24 hour indicator showing you the hour of the current time on a 24-hour scale.
Needs a display case back!😊
price ??
1600 €
Watch the full vid
Approaching $1600
@ChronometerCheck Honestly less than I expected, once you mentioned the movement being used.
How much ?
Its NE88, not NH88
I'm not a fan of Hamilton, but that one Hamilton looks worlds and galexies better then the venetic one...
Why would I pay 15,50.00$ for an Italian knock off when I can buy the Hamilton for the same price?
Knock off of what? It's not like Hamilton has some primacy on panda dials, and the cases are completely different. The Venezianico one is simply done better, for about the same price, with a similar style.
This whole advertisement is inaccurate misleading and typical invitation for a cash grab.
Anyone can buy cheaper, better more respected brand than this
😂😂😂 It's hamilton bro. Don't compare this chinese case en dial micro brand with Hamilton
imagine comparing this sus microbrand to Hammy. LOL
Damn. Too big for my taste. Fine looking watch.
Pffft whack. That’s a 14mm thick watch. Can’t be sayin “12 mm ::whispers:: plus an additional 2 mm for the domed sapphire”.
Lol, I see what you mean. The point I was trying to make is: many chronographs are 14mm thick by necessity rather than by design
@@ChronometerCheck you seem nice. sorry for saying whack. great looking watch tho.
@@michaeld766 Lol, all good
Nice watch, but not even close to the Hamilton, sorry.
No need to apologize, it's all personal preference
The movement is nothing special.
looks cheap all around , even the steel finishing
Fake promotion of a ahit watch
NE88*
*NE88
So you'd rather have that cheap shit than a Hamilton!!!🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
"Cheap"?
I love the Intra-Matic look, but, realistically, it has a single-layer stamped dial and a base 7753 movement. Who charges more to you?