Watches to avoid!! Don't buy these watches if you value your money

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  • After 10 years of collecting and over 300 watches bought I have come up with a list of watches that you should AVOID to buy.
    ⭐Here is a list of watches I DO recomment to buy:
    1. Casio Royale
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    2. Casio A168
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    3. Casio Duro V1 with "Marlin"
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    4. Pagani Design 1701 Speedmaster homage
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    REVIEW: • FORGET the MoonSwatch,...
    5. Steeldive 1970 Willard homage
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    REVIEW: • Steeldive SD1970 revie...
    6. Pagani Design Tiffany Blue Oyster Perpetual homage
    LINK: amzn.to/3o7qC7f
    REVIEW: • Pagani Design 1690 | A...
    7. Orient Kamasu V1
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    REVIEW: • Orient Kamasu (Mako 3)...
    8. Casio Royale stainless steel
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    9. Addiesdive 1970 Willard Homage
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    10. Timex Q Chronograph
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    11. Invicta 1953
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    12. Bulova Precisionist
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    0:00 Intro
    0:38 Fashion watches
    3:06 Vintage watches
    5:13 Watches to impress others
    6:02 The watch "à la mode"
    7:02 Fake watches
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  • @jordan771
    @jordan771 8 місяців тому +186

    Unless you’re really wealthy, don’t buy watches as an investment. Just buy the ones you like wearing. About 3 watches is all you need. Life is short, enjoy it.

    • @artofgarduno
      @artofgarduno 2 місяці тому +10

      I have 100 watches

    • @kalypaniakos3068
      @kalypaniakos3068 2 місяці тому +8

      Rules for yourself.Let others shine too...

    • @truxton1000
      @truxton1000 2 місяці тому +3

      Well I have bought watches for over 30 years. The value of these has certainly gone up so if you can hold on to the watches for at least ten years a profit is likely. Of course stay away from new watches, buy known brands or at least with known movements, and the rule “the more you know the better” is always an important one. No need to be rich, just try to be smart.

    • @artofgarduno
      @artofgarduno 2 місяці тому

      I doubt they will go up since I collect mostly invicta@@truxton1000

    • @michaeljordan6008
      @michaeljordan6008 2 місяці тому +5

      Meh, I’m at around 80 and no crap like Hamilton or Longines.

  • @michaelgarvey2148
    @michaelgarvey2148 8 місяців тому +56

    It is the same in the vintage guitar world . Gibson made 1500 Les Paul`s in 1959 & now there are only 3000 left .

  • @ManfromJapan12
    @ManfromJapan12 2 місяці тому +17

    I have 11 watches in my collection. Tag, Longines, Ebel, Maurice Lacroix, Piaget and recently Cartier. I have no intention of selling any of these and put much thought into every purchase. I bought them for myself and not to impress others but to satisfy my urge .

  • @hanshomesteading1276
    @hanshomesteading1276 2 місяці тому +5

    my late father collected watches, he had about 10. He knew what he bought, but only 2 were really valuable. Now I collect watches myself. And because I could afford it I have an Alpina and a real nice Hamilton and a Seiko of course, Yet my trusty Casio happens to be one of the favourites. Why: the glass hasn't scratched (no its not sapphire), it syncs the time with bluetooth, it beeps every hour and it charges with solar. And I am not afraid to damage it, so I wear it during the week. and all of that for less than 100 euros;-)

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  2 місяці тому

      Casio are mostly spectacular 👍

  • @TheHansoost
    @TheHansoost 4 місяці тому +16

    I bought one of those inexpensive (I won't say cheap) Casio watches back in the late '80's. I think I paid about $12.00 for it. 'Twas an amazing piece of durable and useful engineering. I put it through some pretty tough times (long distance running in all sorts of weather, working in a scrap metal yard doing physical labour, auto repair. chopping firewood by the cord, cocktail parties (lol) ....) It never quit though it went thru a few batteries. An awesome watch!

    • @richardlau2447
      @richardlau2447 3 дні тому

      I like the Casio watches with day, date where I don’t have to change date. Alarm is a feature I use daily.

    • @Reyfacunla
      @Reyfacunla 19 годин тому

      I recommend G-Shock watches.

  • @jonathanscott5252
    @jonathanscott5252 10 місяців тому +15

    Great video, my man. Spot on. The one proviso I would add is that vintage collecting is very doable… by those who know what they are looking for. I love “transitional” pieces and have a few in my collection… but I have had occasion to school dealers on them. The way to buy them is always as you did - with an in-person visit and cracking the back.
    The follow up to that is that one of my other favorite pieces is a $20 Chinese Sub homage by Tevise. Fun beater watch that sparks as many conversations as my actual Sub.
    Keep up the good work and keep spitting facts. I like it.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much. This video is more for people who are starting collecting, that's why I don't recommend vintage at that point. Or to be more precise, it's not that I don't recommend, it's that I recommend to be very careful 😁

  • @HarryHewitt-lh8xx
    @HarryHewitt-lh8xx 2 місяці тому +8

    I bought a Steinhart ocean one ceramic, four years ago. Worn it all day, every day. It is unmarked, still looks brand new, and keeps to one second a day. It needs to be checked for magnetism every few months to keep that accuracy….
    It’s a great watch…….for the money.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  2 місяці тому +2

      It is, it was a wondeful deal and still is 👍

    • @Peter-Alexander
      @Peter-Alexander 2 місяці тому +1

      I bought the ocean one pepsi version before ceramic and wear it almost every day. With the eta 2893 elaboré I think it is great value. The bezel is still like new but I'm quite careful.

    • @Obeijin
      @Obeijin Місяць тому

      🤣🤣🤣 One second ?

  • @jorgeolguingarcia
    @jorgeolguingarcia 10 місяців тому +37

    You are spot on. I share the experience of collecting for more than 20 years (I'm probably similar in age), and one can make big and small mistakes. For the new enthusiasts your knowledge is invaluable; and for the ones (like me) that have traveled the same road, at least we know we are not alone in this very fun journey. Thanks for sharing and best regards

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +3

      Thank you so much for your support 👍👍. I'm glad to know that there are other veteran Collectors out there. The funny thing is that there is still sooo much to learn 😁

    • @aleximd9244
      @aleximd9244 8 місяців тому +4

      Me too. Collecting for 32 years. The same must be said. Wins , mistakes , regrets etc. For this is so wonderful this hobby, or psychic condition.

    • @farely5746
      @farely5746 8 місяців тому

      How is the Raymond weil freelancer

    • @coffeedreamer4621
      @coffeedreamer4621 7 місяців тому +1

      I want to buy my husband his first Rolex for his 40th birthday. What should I buy?

    • @farely5746
      @farely5746 7 місяців тому

      @@coffeedreamer4621 are u asking suggestions

  • @arielcandoleta5347
    @arielcandoleta5347 10 місяців тому +39

    I was out in the field doing my regular routine with a heavy monsoon rain and on my left wrist is a Casio F201 WA, it is such a great watch that it withstood heavy downpour and still keeping time. For less than 20$ it will last you years.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +10

      Totally, Casio has the best value out there on rugged watches 👍

    • @julienfroidevaux1143
      @julienfroidevaux1143 9 місяців тому

      Is Casio really as bomb proof as they say ?
      I had ( bought new) calculator watch and it died just outside it's warranty .
      Sample size one , it may be unfair to judge a watch based on one experience?

    • @TheRexecutioner
      @TheRexecutioner 8 місяців тому +1

      This sounds like something out of a J Peterman catalog

    • @andrews527
      @andrews527 8 місяців тому

      @@TheRexecutioner Or Teddy Baldassarre.

    • @alanchase7329
      @alanchase7329 4 місяці тому

      ​@@julienfroidevaux1143I have had two expensive G- shocks and they failed before they required a battery change. Never again.

  • @Vox-Populi
    @Vox-Populi 10 місяців тому +24

    I went through the cycle of cheap to expensive to moderate. I settled on the Sinn 104 and Glycine GMT and am happy.

    • @JosephAraza
      @JosephAraza 10 місяців тому +2

      I love my Glycine combat sub, I can’t believe how inexpensive they are.

    • @BasRikken
      @BasRikken 10 місяців тому

      great choises

    • @rob9204
      @rob9204 7 місяців тому

      I love my Glycine GMT!

  • @peterturner5618
    @peterturner5618 10 місяців тому +6

    I'm new to watch collecting. This is great advice. Thanks!

  • @chronicmachines6717
    @chronicmachines6717 2 місяці тому +3

    Fantastic advise for anyone who is thinking about buying a watch or already has a collection.

  • @RagnarHoff
    @RagnarHoff 10 місяців тому +4

    Also like to add watches in the 2-3k range that uses the usual Eta 2824 and Sellita 200. Some brands take pride in their product for 2k, but then there's some you need to be aware of that just doesn't care and are heavily overpriced. You just buy the brand name and heritage. You see some of them just having the basic specs and no effort in the case finish whatsoever. Nothing wrong with basic, but it's not worth the cost. In this price range, my favourite brands in terms of best bang for your buck are Sinn, Damasko and Ball. Look past the design alone and read up on what happens inside their watches. Some brands can charge 500 to 1k more just to have some magnetic resistance or COSC certification. Those are the ones you need to be aware of.

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. 10 місяців тому +45

    Absolutely agree with everything you said. You could have also mentioned MVMT and Daniel Wellington. These brands have actually been hugely successful with clever marketing using social media to sell crap watches.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +6

      Thank you my friend. I did mention Daniel Wellington right? Oh, maybe I did it just in the video in French 😁

    • @jamesdep8128
      @jamesdep8128 10 місяців тому

      I bought a MVMT for about $70. I actually like it a lot. Simple, easy to read and looks great.

    • @hectthorno584
      @hectthorno584 8 місяців тому

      ​@@jamesdep8128at that price you didn't too much risks. Still, very expensive 😉

    • @rubric_ra
      @rubric_ra 5 місяців тому +4

      @jamesdep8128 you'd get much better value from a Casio at an even lower price point.

    • @JeeGee114
      @JeeGee114 4 місяці тому

      Crap watches for a crap generation.

  • @brianmsahin
    @brianmsahin 10 місяців тому +4

    Excellent video my friend. I've been very very lucky. I did almost get caught with a frankenwatch. A private seller here in Turkey was selling a seemingly perfect condition Seiko Pogue. It looked too good to be true, and it was.. Luckily I got to see it personally having done my research and make some check points. I quickly discovered that the dial was a reproduction, not the original, the hands too were added later and slightly different in shape and length, the colours were off and in the movement I found some parts that were clearly not original. I said it to the seller as I think he genuinely thought it was original and he was quite upset when I pointed out the problems. But in the end he accepted that he had been fooled himself. I am still looking for a perfect Pogue. I have discovered during my search that unfortunately almost every Pogue you find online isn't original.

  • @petenrita
    @petenrita 10 місяців тому +3

    bought two vintage Patek during the Dotcom era. glad neither was fake. had both serviced by Patek. To date, rate of return

  • @skycrafts5140
    @skycrafts5140 8 місяців тому +6

    Thanks for the video. Each point makes perfect sense, and I have formed the same opinions over the years. I seem to have 'accidentally' formed a small collection of watches. I have a couple of low price watches from micro-brands that use very good movements (mainly seiko) are well built, and keep excellent time. But I also bought them because I genuinely like them, not because they are trendy/popular. Thanks again.

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 10 місяців тому +8

    This is why UA-cam is great - to encourage the hobby and help educate people.

  • @jbfrank7519
    @jbfrank7519 2 місяці тому +3

    Only buy what you like.

  • @emanueleberni167
    @emanueleberni167 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for all your suggestions!

  • @Bleedforme-zq2uf
    @Bleedforme-zq2uf 8 місяців тому +29

    I'm looking to build a minimalist watch collection. I start getting drawn into the 'buy as many watches as possible' mentality but I'm working hard to resist that. I also get sucked into the luxury watch madness at times but thankfully I snap out of it. Thankfully I'm comfortable with brands like Citizen, Seiko and Casio etc. I feel like they belong in my life whereas something like a Rolex doesn't. I'd like a daily workhorse, a dress watch and a casual watch. I already have my daily workhorse which is a Casio F-91W. For a dress watch I think I'm going to buy a 38mm Orient Bambino with a white dial and for the casual I fancy a Seiko 5 Sport 38mm in black.

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 7 місяців тому +4

      Same here. A watch, at the end of the day, is a tool. Can't be afraid to wear it and it shouldn't be a hardship to replace. I've kept one of my Omegas, an Aqua Terra GMT, but because I genuinely iike it. I still feel kinda like an asshole when I wear it, though, LOL!

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  7 місяців тому +2

      That's wonderful collection, covering many basics 👌. Keep on enjoying your watches, that's all there is to it

    • @salmamwebe5518
      @salmamwebe5518 4 місяці тому

      Me too ..am looking to buy my first Casio citizen Timex or Seiko ,,I don’t know where to start😢

  • @Bored-G
    @Bored-G 10 місяців тому +3

    I like this video, so far I have two automatic watch SRPE63k and king Samurai save the ocean dark manta and two digital watch F91W and a gshock DW5900..Probably the only watch I will own.

  • @kenamaro3942
    @kenamaro3942 11 днів тому

    I bought a Citizen Promaster BNO 150 its been on my wrist 7days a week for 10 months.
    I wore it on the rubber strap that it came on for 1 month then added an oyster style bracelet.....love it even more now.
    Will i be wearing this watch in the next 5 years, you bet i will !!

  • @madrafboy
    @madrafboy 8 місяців тому +3

    Lots of sensible advice here. Thanks.

  • @louischua3651
    @louischua3651 8 місяців тому +1

    Tks for the video. Inflationary prices post covid prevented me from buying luxury watches anymore, the price hike for the same watch just don't make sense nor cents anymore.

  • @JosephAraza
    @JosephAraza 10 місяців тому +11

    These tips are so on point. Every new collector should see this vid 👏👏

  • @garygilbert5634
    @garygilbert5634 2 місяці тому +5

    Great video and great advice. I've been buying Seiko watches mainly divers watches for decades. for me, the quality of Seiko ate hard to beat! I always wait for the sales or bargains on eBay. Obviously I only buy if genuine sellers. I've never been a fan of Rolex, I prefer Omega or Breitling. But it's all about what you like! Thanks again for a great video!

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much for your kind comment! Keep on collecting great watches and enjoying it 👍

  • @terryhall818
    @terryhall818 10 місяців тому

    Great video, thanks for making 👍👍👍

  • @bronovalter391
    @bronovalter391 9 місяців тому +3

    As I type this, I am wearing a Seiko 5 from from 1967 that I bought from a thrift store for $20. My watch repair man says that it has never been cracked open and is all original. I also have a Seiko Turtle, also all original, but I don't wear it as much because of the weight, but it looks great when I wear it. I've see Seiko Frankenwatches, but we don't have much of a problem with them here in the U.S. because, up until recently, they were considered by watch collectors to be worthless. When they broke, people would toss them or put them in a drawer and forget about them. I have found quartz and automatic Seikos to be extremely reliable. All the quartz ones usually need is a battery, even when they are more 40 years old. The older Seiko quartz watches can have serious movements. I have a Seiko chronograph with a 5 jewel movement. It is a very impressive watch (to me at least!). I also have a fake Hong Kong Seiko that I bought for laughs, but it had a nice vintage Speidel band that alone was worth what I paid for it.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  9 місяців тому

      Wondeful story, thank you so much for sharing it! This is a wonderful testament of how good Seiko watches can be over the decades! I'm really jealous about that Turtle of yours 😂. Keep on enjoying them and sharing your great stories 👍

  • @novadhd
    @novadhd 10 місяців тому +3

    Starting to get into watches this is good information

  • @vandatamiss
    @vandatamiss 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video with good advice. Thank yo

  • @aponcapone
    @aponcapone 10 місяців тому +1

    I just bought the Spinnaker Bradley ocean blue....now that is a beauty❤❤❤

  • @forthefunofit5487
    @forthefunofit5487 2 місяці тому +2

    Good information. Well done!!

  • @richardclintonjonesjones1807
    @richardclintonjonesjones1807 10 місяців тому +1

    I prefer a standard wind up ball watch verses an auto wind a lot less trouble and you wind it at the same time each day. I've been collecting vintage watches for more than 50 years. So in my time I've seen good and bad in all brands

  • @davidbarrs9721
    @davidbarrs9721 10 місяців тому

    Great video keep it up advising the public on these watches !!!!

  • @franciscojavier4270
    @franciscojavier4270 8 місяців тому

    Very nice explanation, I absolutly agree with you. It IS impossible to say It more clear.

  • @rvkvikas
    @rvkvikas 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the video brother!

  • @nathski22
    @nathski22 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video! Great advice!

  • @julienfroidevaux1143
    @julienfroidevaux1143 9 місяців тому

    I especially agree on the influnceer thing .
    Thats why I wait and ponder for years before buying a watch even a cheapie like a Casio .

  • @stevenzilinsky3766
    @stevenzilinsky3766 8 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for the video. My father just passed down his vintage Rolex Submariner to me and I love it. What’s crazy is that he purchased it new $600 when he was stationed at Lahr, Germany circa 1970 in the military, and now I see a brand new one is $10,800 CDN here! This is absolutely ridiculous.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  8 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing that beautiful story. That's an absolutely amazing heirloom you've got there, keep it close and pass it down to your children in turn 👍

  • @callesierra
    @callesierra 2 місяці тому +1

    Great advice thank you very much.

  • @michaelj8793
    @michaelj8793 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks big daddy Always enjoy your content Be well and God Bless 👍

  • @dandonofrio8701
    @dandonofrio8701 3 місяці тому

    Very good information. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Subscribed!

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much! Welcome 👍👍

  • @satria3001Al
    @satria3001Al 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the advice.....best advice.

  • @trustnoone9921
    @trustnoone9921 6 місяців тому +2

    The Chinese 'homage' companies including Addiesdive, Steeldive, PD etc are getting better and better at not only delivering quality specs but also refining the design and tightening QC.

  • @desireless4092
    @desireless4092 7 місяців тому +1

    I currently own mint DJ41, Pelagos FXD, Emperor Tuna SBDX014 and two G - Shocks. My final target is Submariner (date or no date, still uncertain) because it was the watch that got me into watches when I was a kid and my dad showed me the 007 movies. I like the overtly masculine design, the simplicity and symmetry of it and the build quality of Rolex. I don't care who are the current bunch of "famous people" that endorse or flex any Rolex. I just have passion for the Sub and all of my watches I own and I don't have interest in any other "higher tier of luxury" watches... Maybe JLC Reverso.

  • @ChefTom777
    @ChefTom777 2 місяці тому +2

    The best vintage watch in my opinion is the casio marlins.. but my favorite is the a168, w800 & the f105

  • @josevasquez1781
    @josevasquez1781 10 місяців тому +5

    Great video, I've been into watches forever, four decades actually. I gave up on vintage watches long ago which was actually handed to me and I never ever bought preowned anything and after over two hundred watches plus I've made great contacts and dealers who I trust and who contact me once a reference is released so I can see it before purchased. Please stay away from hype from many reviewers who benefit from telling you that the Vacheron222 is worth three times above retail that's bullshit cause I know it's not so turning mine down in March 2023. No watch is worth double retail many are not even worth retail, think about it omega has already two price increases this year alone and Christian from Theo and Harris says that's about right cause T&H sell used watches!. I buy new and always get my discounts even on new releases over 15K. Things really have gotten out of hand over a decade or so ago.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much for your feedback! It's very nice to have one from someone like yourself, who has been collecting for ao long and who has dealt with many references. Vintage is a minefield indeed, especially luxury vintage! I didn't know there was hype around the Vacheron222 as I don't deal in top luxury timepieces, but it's good to know hype can exist at any price level and it's only accentuated by social media

  • @shawnrobichaud9813
    @shawnrobichaud9813 2 місяці тому +3

    im a Timex Ironman user and not ashamed to admit it..been a great watch for me for over 30yrs less than $100.00

  • @Is_this_4_reelOU812
    @Is_this_4_reelOU812 8 місяців тому +3

    I never heard of a Frankenwatch until I came here. Thanks for the advice. I had a knock-off Patek that worked for a month. It was a beautiful watch. I can now afford the original but I would have to do a lot of soul searching in my heart and mind to justify forking over that amount of cash. To be honest, I love all watches from the ones you get out of a vending machine, to the ones that are as much as a house. If it gives you accurate time and has all the bells and whistles you love, than I am probably happy for you wearing it.

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 8 місяців тому

      In some way all swiss watches are franken-watches. They are made from parts made all over the world. If you think a bit about it: you have to buy chineese watch brands to really avoid that. But even then the cases may have been done in some different country.

    • @SquarePenix.
      @SquarePenix. 8 місяців тому

      The current gen superclones are amazing reliable. The replica patek 5712 I have has a 1:1 replica of the movement itself. It can be replaced with a genuine patek 240 movement. Replicas are on a whole nother level these days

  • @cynien13
    @cynien13 5 місяців тому +1

    Very nice video, useful information and content. Thanks for sharing.

  • @redstickham6394
    @redstickham6394 Місяць тому

    I have a Junghans Mega Aluminum atomic watch I've had for almost 20 years. It has been serving me well through multiple battery changes and 3 watch bands. I like the atomic watches and would love to one day own a Citizen Eco Atomic since it would both set itself and never need batteries. I just wonder if it would last as long as my Junghans has.

  • @richardclintonjonesjones1807
    @richardclintonjonesjones1807 10 місяців тому +1

    My personal opinion. Ball vintage railroad wrist watches are very rugged accurate and my favorite choice they are every bit as good as any high end watch ever made without all the hype and huge price tag

  • @Reyfacunla
    @Reyfacunla 4 місяці тому +1

    I was addicted to buy watches, I realized that when you wear it, nobody notice it, keep saving your money and invest to gold and silver instead than wasting to a garbage.

  • @ZENO357
    @ZENO357 8 місяців тому +3

    I believe that at least some of the Calvin Klein watches have Swiss movements and are high quality - their watches were part of the Swatch Group for 22 years and are now produced by the Movado Group. Maybe the quality slipped at that point - I don't really know. My only point is that this brand seems better than most of the 'fashion watches'. (I bought new one some time back on the grey market for around $40 and I have to say it seems like high quality.)

  • @irvintu5869
    @irvintu5869 2 місяці тому +1

    Very sensible advices. Thank you.

  • @weeooh1
    @weeooh1 2 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful video. A lot of it common sense that we needed to hear.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much 👍👍

  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H 10 місяців тому

    Vintage watches can be the value for money, as long as you know what to look for and what is a good price. I own two solid gold watches with a Frédéric Piguet calibre 21 movement, which i bought for less than 700 euro each.

  • @Valera_Scotland
    @Valera_Scotland 10 місяців тому +31

    Very right about "in fashion watches"
    I used to be obsessed with rolex, but after a few years trying to save for an Explorer, I just bought an Omega Aqua Terra 2503.50.00..
    This watch is about 70% cheaper and it is absolutely gorgeous. Do some research people, and get something that YOU like, and not what the HYPE pushes you to like
    You'll feel proud of owning something that little bit different, and will likely save a lot of money too (Explorer 36mm is £6150 if you can find one . My omega...£2400..I think this is a good example)

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +3

      I'm absolutely GLAD for you! It's wonderdul, keep on enjoying your beautiful Aqua Terra

    • @isluderea8322
      @isluderea8322 10 місяців тому +12

      1. Rolex is not a fashion watch
      2. You still don't have the Rolex that you initially dreamed of

    • @Valera_Scotland
      @Valera_Scotland 10 місяців тому +6

      @@isluderea8322 1. Rolex clearly is Not a fashion watch! I'm not suggesting they are like "Boss" or "MVMT" but "in fashion", I.e. "the cool thing to have, the hyped up thing that everyone must have"
      2. Dude come on...I got what IN MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION is the better watch FOR ME... it took 4 years to decide, to try on many rolex watches, including the Explorer...I love Omega watches much more than Rolex and I've owned two in the past... but I also do like many Rolex watches too...
      We are all on our own journey, and this was the right choice for me
      What watches do you have / hope to have?

    • @Okido24
      @Okido24 10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed

    • @isluderea8322
      @isluderea8322 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Valera_Scotlandok. I understand. i have a dozen watches. From cheaper ones like Tissot Lelocle, Hamilton xwind or Seiko skx007 to expensiver like Tudor BB58 or Rolex Explorer i and Sub. My next watch? Let's say a nice Moonwatch for example

  • @skd
    @skd 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a Casio collection. Oceanus S500E, Lineage M100TSE, Edifice Bluetooth 1200DC, G-Shock 5600, the MTP E180L (the brown one), and the rest are vintage models like the 168, 169, the AE1200WH and things like that. And the Pepsi one :)) I still have my Apple Watch 7, but that one haven't seen a charger in 4 months. Just buy something useful, not fancy. Your daily driver should be something you enjoy wearing. I'm so proud of my small collection :)

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  5 місяців тому +1

      Funny about the Apple Watch not seeing any wrist time 😂. Those are disposable tech gadgets, not heirlooms like watches. You've got an amazing Casio collection there 👍

  • @ANGELFLY39
    @ANGELFLY39 26 днів тому

    Hi, are Jowissa watches considered fashion watches? Thanks!

  • @irishdave9865
    @irishdave9865 9 днів тому +1

    Well thought out

  • @alexsavutube
    @alexsavutube 7 місяців тому +1

    Heritage is in your mind and is owned, bought and sold by companies for profit. Watches are industrial products worth the sum of the parts inside. There are watchmakers alive today passionate about the work that give good value. For the Seiko price you can get a watch with a real bracelet and aligned parts.

  • @Dazlingmagic
    @Dazlingmagic 2 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful, thank you!

  • @mikinozz
    @mikinozz 2 місяці тому

    What a great video, thank you so much

  • @uncleronny6748
    @uncleronny6748 10 місяців тому +3

    I agree with you although I would except the real Gucci watches of 30 years ago in that they used really superior quartz movements compared to other fashion watches like Guess at the time.

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 8 місяців тому

      After the so called luxury brands got bought out by the oligarchs they all started just to push cheap outsourced crap. This appies not only to watches.

  • @justinsaunders4068
    @justinsaunders4068 10 місяців тому +1

    Great insight, thank you!

  • @batmanthinks
    @batmanthinks 10 місяців тому +3

    Regarding the vintage watch one, there are sites and forums which could help determine which parts go with which watch, especially omega, but i do agree with the frankenwatch fear. Personally for me, as long as the case model matches with the movement model and the dial, that should be okay since for me, those are what really give the watch its identity. And if you do end up with a frankenwatch, take the loss and if you try to sell it, just be honest about it and if no one buys it, keep it. It might not be a valuable watch but it would still be a nice watch

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +4

      Yes, when you buy a $500 vintage Semaster I agree, but when you buy a $20k 1675 or 1680 Rolex every small detail is important, and it's here that things can go terribly wrong

    • @julienfroidevaux1143
      @julienfroidevaux1143 9 місяців тому

      Fakes frighten me more than Frankenstein watch .
      It's the main reason I will never buy a luxury watch ( I would never buy retail)

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 8 місяців тому

      Avoid vintage like a plague. Those are mechanical devices and therefore they have a limited lifetime. There is not really any possibility to "service" a watch indefinitely. After 1-2 full services it is in reality just trash. It is far more sensible to buy something new made in the style you desire. My own SNKG is already on it's 3-rd werk. The original was tossed out for the hacking and winding. The replacements needed service after about 5 years and of course it was far more sensible to just put in a new werk.

    • @julienfroidevaux1143
      @julienfroidevaux1143 8 місяців тому

      @@rosomak8244 I've owned 4 entry level / lower mid tier for its time from the 50' s - 70's without issues , only had to service one for grand sum of around us $ 80 .
      Is this a anomaly ?

  • @wrenside
    @wrenside 10 місяців тому +6

    most likely the smart watch has done a lot to kill the fashion watch space. many thanks for another great video. merci bien.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, you are right, and de rien 😉

  • @allancopland1768
    @allancopland1768 2 місяці тому +1

    You are so right. I use a 1960's Bernex Barracuda automatic watch that belonged to my father. It has an ETA movement. Nothing fantastic but it is very dependable, 60 years on. My other watch is a Sturmanskie that I didn't pay a lot for but it keeps great time and is lightweight. Buy a watch to tell the time, not for anything else.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  2 місяці тому +1

      That's what watches are all about 👍👍.
      Sturmamskie is the first brand in space!

  • @user-iv9iv5gm2d
    @user-iv9iv5gm2d 6 місяців тому +3

    So glad you tell that to people and so true. Luckily my mistakes are not as bad because I did not buy too much nor did I spend too much. Out of all 6 watches I owned...there is only 1 that I love (I think I had it so far 6 years) and that is my silver Citizen Eco-Drive watch because I never have to replace the batteries and the watch is well made and it fits my small wrist. I love it Citizen Eco-Drive watch so much...I just purchased one in gold. Even if I'm rich, I would not buy extravagant material things. I buy it for myself to enjoy and it's not to be flexing to other people. I would spend as if I was poor because I don't know if and when my money will last all my living. years. One of my watches was stolen... and too many people loved my watch. I would be careful with the people who give compliments.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  6 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing you experience! I totally agree, and you were smart! Eco Drive or solar in general are the most cost efficient watches to maintain. And Citizen just kills it 👍

    • @redstickham6394
      @redstickham6394 Місяць тому

      I'd like to get a Citizen Eco Atomic one of these days. I like the atomic watches because they stay right on time and I don't have to set them by WWV myself to keep them accurate. My old Junghans Mega Aluminum atomic watch keeps good time and it has never been repaired. Been through multiple batteries and on it's third watch band but it keeps on going and I love it!

  • @jeffreyhickman3871
    @jeffreyhickman3871 8 днів тому

    Some of these "Must To Avoid" watches ⌚️ look cheap anyway. The Timex and Casio are my favorites, though, even 😍 if they may be junk. Just subbed!! Your friend, Jeff!!

  • @dgerdi
    @dgerdi 4 місяці тому +1

    Buy the watch what you personally think is worth the price. Of course there is a premium to pay, if you buy a Longines or Omega. But if you desire that particular watch, don’t look for the dollar. I bought every watch I owned for that special time of my life and I don’t regret it at all.

  • @kunalshrestha9970
    @kunalshrestha9970 7 місяців тому

    I was looking at a miyota JP25 quartz movement, I have no idea about what it means, could you explain please ?

  • @felo6035
    @felo6035 10 місяців тому +2

    Great advice, agree 💯 %

  • @rishavkumar5123
    @rishavkumar5123 5 місяців тому

    GC brand says its Swiss made and have Swiss movement ( swiss quartz).
    Will you be able to please provide some of your knowledge about the brand .
    What I know from research is if a brand mentions swiss made it has to go though quality test

  • @robertl8429
    @robertl8429 5 місяців тому

    This is a really great video. Great advice, agree 100% 💯

  • @ScratchyBaws
    @ScratchyBaws 7 місяців тому +1

    My collection of watches are Orient's, Seiko's, Invicta's, Rotary, Vostok and some others that make up around a 100 watch collection. I had two Casio's (presents from family members) but i hate quartz watches so gave them away to friends. The worst watch i bought years ago was a Pagani GMT for £67, the workmanship and finish was bloody awful. Even if you were a builders labourer and had callouses all over your hands and your fingertips were as rough as a bricks face you would still feel the rough jagged burrs all over the watch. Gave that away too but did get a full refund from PayPal.

  • @kobusvanrensburg4092
    @kobusvanrensburg4092 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent advice and an excellent channel.

  • @uhrologe2596
    @uhrologe2596 10 місяців тому +7

    Yea, that Speedmaster thing was an auction at Phillips in Geneve. Bud to be fair, the auction house was fooled by Omega itself.
    The director of Omega museum "proofed" it as a unpayable treasure which they can't ignore.
    Also some other employees of the management level were involved in this scam. Even it's a Frankenwatch, but the parts were investigated to be from Omega HQ itself.
    So tzey let it look like a unique timepiece and brought the price with fake bids up to 3 Milion. Usually never more than 500K for real unique pieces. But this was worthless.
    So at the end of the auction Omega itself bought it.
    Now Omega fired all these employees who were involved in this scam and investigations are ongoing.
    But anyway....I never trust auction houses. I visit them often for arts and historical pieces.
    They have often no idea whst hhey offer. There are just too many different kind of arts and historical things. It's impossible to know everything.
    Even if they know they don't care.
    And their fees are incredible. Usually they ask for a fee of 20% from the buyer and some even also from the seller.
    So I don't know the pricing of Phillips. But at least they do get a fee of 600,000 for the Omega.
    If they get from both, Seller and Buyer it could be even 1,2Mio.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for your feedback. You would assume that such prestigious companies would do their due diligence before offering such an expensive timepiece. Everyone's reputation is on the line. Omega and Phillips messed up big time!

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 8 місяців тому

      Nobody not being willing to get fooled was. It was most likely a marketing gig by Omega.

  • @lawdawg194
    @lawdawg194 26 днів тому

    I'm proud to own my Clean Factory watch. Wear what you like not what someone else tells you to wear or not wear.

  • @w.m.aslam-author
    @w.m.aslam-author 7 місяців тому +2

    I share your experience and thoughts on watches; however, I place the Seiko Grand Seiko on par with many Rolex models. I think the Grand Seiko is the best all-round watch on the market at present. The new models retail at around £6000; with movements as good as those used by Rolex and Omega. I think Japanese watches have caught up with Swiss watches, even surpassing many Swiss brands. On the other hand, I also think one should wear a watch that makes one smile every time one wears it. I’ve had Tudor, Omega, Longines and many, many designer watches, but few made me smile like a Seiko automatic. A fake will always be a fake. Buy a style, not a brand.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you very much. It's been a long time since japanese watches have surpassed Swiss watches, since 1969 to be precise 😁. Grand Seiko are amazing and innovate, unlike the Swiss. I like and appreciate both though for very different reasons

    • @w.m.aslam-author
      @w.m.aslam-author 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Horologique I concur, 1969 sounds about right to me too. 😊 Watches are as varied as towns and cities. There’s something to suit everyone.

  • @optimuss66
    @optimuss66 Місяць тому +1

    Great video, I’m glad I stumbled onto your page. I own a citizen eco drive day, date. It’s not classy but I love this watch.

  • @victorperrotta4007
    @victorperrotta4007 Місяць тому

    What’s your feeling about buying Breitling or Tag watches- the Breitlings I like are anywhere between $5k -10K , are they worth it?

  • @patrickhull9231
    @patrickhull9231 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm far from being a collector but have a few wristwatches. I look for several things: under $60, reliablity of the brand, simplicity, accuarate movement, and easily complmentary of my choice of dress from occasion to occasion.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  4 місяці тому +1

      Then Casio and Timex (both amazing brands) are your friends 👍

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 10 місяців тому +2

    Good advise.

  • @kevinbuckley4507
    @kevinbuckley4507 10 місяців тому +1

    I stick to the grand diver or pro diver 44mm so not to huge like some of them and the style dose not look over the top .What do you think about the works ?

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому

      You mean the movement? Most have Seiko NH35 which is a great movement, extremely durable and fairly accurate for the money

  • @AmigaA-or2hj
    @AmigaA-or2hj 8 місяців тому

    Hi there! Have you heard of Vaan Konrad watches?
    I’ve also purchased a very cheap Pulsar Kinetic watch from a charity shop. Great working order and great content, too.

  • @rylharris4514
    @rylharris4514 Місяць тому

    My first and only one watch for since I started buy at age 30 years old is the lovely Chopard happy sport steel

  • @aviationworld8939
    @aviationworld8939 5 місяців тому

    I'm new to your channel. I love your wisdom and your pruduction. Thank you....

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  5 місяців тому

      Thank you so much for your kind comment and welcome!

  • @FlipsterFlipinoy
    @FlipsterFlipinoy 7 місяців тому

    What about Urban Gentry Limited Edition Squale? Is it a good investment?

  • @richardclintonjonesjones1807
    @richardclintonjonesjones1807 10 місяців тому

    Ball also makes some super great up to date mechanical watches as well

  • @houd3872
    @houd3872 7 місяців тому

    i only have one automatic watch that i wear & watch everyday- the rado captain cook green bezel *powermatic 80…humble manufacturer, masters at what they do, looks like a piece of jewellery

  • @keving4408
    @keving4408 10 місяців тому +4

    Great advice all around. Where "fashion brands" are concerned, I wonder if the time has come where we can separate Vincero from brands like MVMT, DW, etc. I've been looking at some of Vincero's higher priced automatic offerings and, frankly, the specs look good. Miyota 9000-series movement, sapphire crystal, 100M+ WR, etc. Not sure how one can go wrong.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +2

      That would be a good step in the right direction. If only they would start less insulting promo campaigns that would be great 👍

  • @roversgonemad
    @roversgonemad 2 місяці тому +1

    Won’t buy fakes, hate them. But I buy homages all the time. I love boutique brands too. Some neat designs have come from some of the tiny boutique brands. My only worry is when I may need parts for the cases.

  • @popamonkey190
    @popamonkey190 10 місяців тому +1

    If your saving for a watch. You may want to try an homage before spending a tonne of cash. Ive learned after owning homage versions, i wasnt so crazy about making the big purchase anymore. Homages let me get a feel for the watch before i own the real deal. Ive been in the market for a rolex or speedmaster. Ive since expanded my options. Still havent pulled the big trigger.

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  10 місяців тому +1

      That's a wonderdul idea! I did the same before committing to purchase the GMT Master 2.

    • @rosomak8244
      @rosomak8244 8 місяців тому

      Don't buy a watch you have to save for. There are more important things in live. Really.

  • @polycrase
    @polycrase 2 місяці тому +1

    A quality watch will always eventually become vintage. I have 2 Seiko 7A movement watches that are over 40 years old and still work flawlessly.

  • @SilverBackELTorro
    @SilverBackELTorro 3 місяці тому +1

    Seiko, Tissot and Hamilton are my Brand.

  • @footmarshian8295
    @footmarshian8295 3 місяці тому +1

    I only own 3 watches now I sold all the rest I had about 50 they all cost over £250 pounds not I only have 3 watches that I would never sell I have a rotary. Sherlock homes watch. And invicta pro diver and a orient bambino watch that’s all I need Your video is good thanks 🙏

    • @Horologique
      @Horologique  3 місяці тому

      Wonderful entry level watch collection 👍

  • @teabaggins7909
    @teabaggins7909 7 місяців тому

    What do you think of Invicta watches?