Top 10 Cheapest Watches (That Are Unbelievable Quality)

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  • @okok371nsjsj
    @okok371nsjsj 7 місяців тому +94

    timestamps:
    1:58 Zelos Swordfish Field
    3:18 Benjamin James Scarifour
    5:13 Nivada Grenchen Chronoking
    6:52 Furlan Marri Mechaquartz
    8:42 Radcliffe L'Inversee
    11:09 Baltic Hermétique Glacier White
    13:00 Arken Alterum
    15:27 Beaubleu Ecce Smalt
    17:39 Orion Sylph
    20:06 Studio Underdog Series02

    • @qoopi
      @qoopi 7 місяців тому +3

      Ty ❤

    • @deepb249
      @deepb249 3 місяці тому

      @@qoopiare these Chinese junk?

  • @timedwards8171
    @timedwards8171 7 місяців тому +279

    If the author of the book Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy had a watch channel it would sound exactly like this

    • @CapttTob
      @CapttTob 7 місяців тому +6

      Although I’m not saying they’re the same person, nobody saw them together in the same room ;)

    • @barrettwbenton
      @barrettwbenton 7 місяців тому +8

      And since no digital watches were mentioned here, that sort of checks out.

    • @timedwards8171
      @timedwards8171 7 місяців тому

      @@barrettwbenton read the book

    • @noisepuppet
      @noisepuppet 7 місяців тому +2

      Or possibly Terry Pratchett

    • @AndrewMorganWatches
      @AndrewMorganWatches  6 місяців тому +16

      That is a top tier compliment, thank you!

  • @guygrieve4306
    @guygrieve4306 7 місяців тому +5

    Spoke to the founder of Arken and his buddy helping him out at BWM day a few weeks back, I was blown away by the quality, care and attention to details of the watch as well as box, warrenty card etc. Really cool brand. Their watches were waiting listed, but i managed to walk away with an awesome hat :)

  • @iancluroe5659
    @iancluroe5659 7 місяців тому +15

    Is there a watch channel on UA-cam that’s better at combining great information with entertaining commentary. I think not.
    Great job, Andrew.

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 7 місяців тому

      This is a presentation watch channel. It’s definitely top tier in that category.
      Nico Lenard is top BS and trolling.
      Wrist Watch Revival is in deep competition with three or four others as top restoration/repair.
      And there are several other categories I also find interesting and recommend above this channel, but not in its own category. He’s definitely an excellent presenter especially for us common folk who can spend $200,000 on a single watch. (I have two watches worth over $10,000 but a dozen more I actually wear everyday worth $60-$300 and generally prefer them, with my never sell favourite being worth at best $250 new).

  • @BlackRussian31
    @BlackRussian31 7 місяців тому +7

    You’re a class act Andrew, keep doing what you’re doing.

  • @rolandleber6527
    @rolandleber6527 7 місяців тому +32

    I would recommend to include Wise watches from Thailand in the next episode, they are great quality from a country no one expects

    • @shazawan
      @shazawan 7 місяців тому +1

      Any models to look out for?

    • @rolandleber6527
      @rolandleber6527 7 місяців тому

      @@shazawan I personally have just ordered the ADAMASCUS AD840B.C Bronze model, I will be happy to share my impressions as soon as the watch arrived

    • @rolandleber6527
      @rolandleber6527 7 місяців тому

      @@shazawan I personally have just ordered the ADAMASCUS AD840B.C Bronze model, I will be happy to provide some impressions as soon as it arrived

    • @mikelewis65
      @mikelewis65 7 місяців тому +1

      You are compleletly right. Those Wise watches are sweet.

  • @Bosunsbikes
    @Bosunsbikes 7 місяців тому +2

    Love the fact you look at all brands not just big boys.

  • @BennyLlama
    @BennyLlama 7 місяців тому +3

    Great video as always. Fun fact about Zelos is that Elshan is in the process of moving certain pieces in basic colors to regular production

  • @StandAloneState
    @StandAloneState 7 місяців тому +15

    I had ordered that same Zelos swordfish 38 but then came across a Glycine combat sub 36mm on Jomashop for a little bit more and went with that instead. Still want a Zelos in the future but I don’t regret getting the Glycine.

  • @markwillis7014
    @markwillis7014 7 місяців тому +1

    What a great collection, there are so many great options in this space, really exciting times. I had been daily wearing a 2019 Submariner until I got my Paul Newman Nivada Chronoking last October, I absolutely love it, its sits perfectly on the wrist at 38mm and the quality is unbelievable for sub £500. It also gets lots of admiration and comments. Great channel, keep releasing the great content.

  • @khaagos
    @khaagos 7 місяців тому +8

    Henry Archer makes some beautiful watches. I recommend them

  • @RiCsoundbox
    @RiCsoundbox 7 місяців тому +18

    Who cares about the watches, the moderation goes down as some of the best dialogue that is more fun to listen to, letting you forget time itself. Thank you!

  • @masonsnakes4721
    @masonsnakes4721 7 місяців тому +10

    I learnt to drive in a VW polo harlequin. My instructor saw one at a dealer, and ended up being able to get one. He called his company "harlequin diver training". A dull, yet true, fact.

    • @paulketchupwitheverything767
      @paulketchupwitheverything767 7 місяців тому +2

      Unless they were using it as a boat and using it for teaching aspiring sub-aquarists, but I'm guessing that is just a typo.

  • @markdickerson3486
    @markdickerson3486 7 місяців тому +18

    ..."and down would only work on a particularly thin albino"... Just when I think your humor and information can't get better, it does! Did I ever think I would actually add another reason to love the weekend by knowing you have another video to enjoy on my Saturday morning? Thank you AGAIN Andrew!

  • @Mohika881
    @Mohika881 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks Andrew! Sellita and Myota never had it so good!

  • @gastonfilms
    @gastonfilms 7 місяців тому

    I just got an UNDONE Aquadeep. grade II titanium case, double dome sapphire crystal, 500M water resistance. All for under $400US. A lot of watch for the money. I am enjoying it very much.

  • @nicolasansom2681
    @nicolasansom2681 7 місяців тому +1

    Your writing in this episode is superb. Beautifully crafted similies and next-level niche references. And yes I was doing that too when I was 15... 😂

  • @leannhardin5968
    @leannhardin5968 7 місяців тому +2

    Good gosh, I want them all! Except the Radcliffe. Another great video AMW.

  • @techdad2716
    @techdad2716 7 місяців тому +5

    You are the "Jeremy Clarkson of the watch world" when it comes to word play and descriptions
    Brilliant!
    Subscribed.

  • @jacdavis
    @jacdavis 7 місяців тому +2

    My wife has bought me a BALL Engineer Legend and I cant stop wearing or looking at it, its beautiful.
    Any plans to review any of their offerings??

  • @leeroylopez8365
    @leeroylopez8365 7 місяців тому

    WAS NOT EXPECTING TO SEE THE SCARIFOUR ON HERE!!!!! purchased the orange dial and I can't wait to get it!

  • @Snowmunkee
    @Snowmunkee 7 місяців тому +3

    1:00 I have number 228/300 of the Swordfish Ember 40 shown on the left. It glows like a small nuclear reactor. Zelos truly deserves the first shout out on this video.

    • @reesebroekhoven3962
      @reesebroekhoven3962 7 місяців тому +1

      Nice I got #50/200 swordfish 40 in emerald SS also their sister company ventus I have #04/400 brass northstar and love them both

  • @sweetcorn1968
    @sweetcorn1968 7 місяців тому +4

    Signum watches are a great brand, especially their new Cuda 39mm

  • @marcjcapetown
    @marcjcapetown 7 місяців тому +1

    Carefully curated selection of wonderful watches, described in terms sublime and sometimes surreal. Superb, I chortled.

  • @turbyoulance
    @turbyoulance 7 місяців тому +2

    That first Baltic at 10 minute 40 second mark of this video is a BOOMER of a watch . Best of breed.

  • @veggiesosage
    @veggiesosage 7 місяців тому +48

    The Beaubleu looks like it's taking off the Raketa Copernicus

    • @chuffingBilly
      @chuffingBilly 7 місяців тому +8

      Was just going to say the same. Not an expensive watch but was very original

    • @AndrewMorganWatches
      @AndrewMorganWatches  7 місяців тому +7

      Good knowledge!

    • @blake70505
      @blake70505 7 місяців тому +3

      You beat me to it. Good form !

    • @piotrkaczmarczyk1792
      @piotrkaczmarczyk1792 7 місяців тому +1

      I have one old from 80s :)

    • @veggiesosage
      @veggiesosage 7 місяців тому

      @@piotrkaczmarczyk1792 Jealous 😄

  • @StaRMaestroS
    @StaRMaestroS 7 місяців тому

    My first mechanical watch that i bought this year is the Orient "Baby Neptune" RA-AC0K03L10B. I think its a real bargain. Automatic diver, inhouse movement with hacking and handwinding, sapphire crystal, screw down case back, screw down crown at 4, crown guards, seamless date window at 4, pepsi tactile uni-directional bezel, 200m WR, with really amazing lume. I mean really this thing glows. 350€ I think its a real bargain. And an amazing everyday watch. Did end up changing its bracelet tho

  • @barrettwbenton
    @barrettwbenton 7 місяців тому

    A most-amazing pick of fabulous budget (well, at least well under $1k) watches…and well-deserved congrats for cresting 200k members.

  • @finesse49
    @finesse49 2 місяці тому

    fun video as usual. I wasn't interested in Zelos until the smaller (37mm) Nova 2 showed up. My aventurine and guilloché-dialed version is gorgeous.

  • @johnstyron6543
    @johnstyron6543 7 місяців тому

    Fantastic selection of watches with your unique twist Andrew!!! Thanks as always for not simply reproducing the same watches and same opinions as everyone else!

  • @mrxman581
    @mrxman581 7 місяців тому

    This is a good list of good priced watches of some brands I've never heard of and will be looking into. Thanks.
    Aragon, which used to be Android, has been around for 3 decades and offers some very well-made watches at great price points.

  • @mikelewis65
    @mikelewis65 7 місяців тому

    Great video. Love the selection. I might have added San Martin. Pretty nice watches for the price. But really, Andrew nailed it.

  • @chrisgoains
    @chrisgoains 2 місяці тому

    Hey Andrew. I really enjoy your content. I’m learning so much from you. As far as budget brands, I’d like to see more Cadisen, Berny, and Pagani Design watches in your videos. Thanks for everything.

  • @izzieeats8108
    @izzieeats8108 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video, thank you for introducing me to the Radcliffe brand!

  • @kabuverdiano
    @kabuverdiano 7 місяців тому +1

    Please please please🙏make this a recurring topic! Ive discovered a few absolute gems (BeauBleu...omg) thanks to this video and hope to discover more in the future!

  • @Christophe-k8s
    @Christophe-k8s 7 місяців тому

    Hello and thanks for this video. As a microbrands french ... Yes, my english sucks, so what?! ... lover, it has been a true delight to discover this video. And not only because of the two french microbrands into. But also, and at first, because I discovered a brand I never hadn't heard of before, Benjamin James. And in a second time, because of the Radcliffe's new piece of pure madness! Thank you!

  • @cartoonpete407
    @cartoonpete407 7 місяців тому

    I remember years ago when Elshan's dad told me his son was going into the watch business, creating his own brand, but I never imagined back then how big it was going to become! His dad wears a Zelos too, of course!

  • @MattSeesGray
    @MattSeesGray 7 місяців тому +3

    Damn, Andrew. Nice Jeff Buckley reference! “Grace” was such a legendary album.

  • @anttsang
    @anttsang 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for introducing me the Radcliffe L'Inversee, I really like this special freaky watch, pre-ordered already!! 🤓👍

  • @alrangelal
    @alrangelal 7 місяців тому +4

    Some of the best humour in the interweb.

  • @Watch.Hightower
    @Watch.Hightower 7 місяців тому +4

    200k lets goo! also the ARKEN is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @wayneoneill5265
    @wayneoneill5265 6 місяців тому

    Excellent video. That Zelos Stonefish is a work of art. I think I need to have one.

  • @AbdulRWatches
    @AbdulRWatches 7 місяців тому +1

    I owned the Baltic MR01 and loved it, and definitely want to add more watches from the list 😁👍🏽

  • @Omega34685
    @Omega34685 7 місяців тому +2

    Very nice offerings and entertaining as always- thank you. I noticed a lack of signed crowns in many examples; anyone here care one way or another? I prefer signed but it’s not a deal breaker.

  • @jimlittle5769
    @jimlittle5769 7 місяців тому +3

    Henry Archer watches are fantastic and great bang for buck.

  • @JovanPrvg
    @JovanPrvg 6 місяців тому

    Nice video and watches selection,
    Thanks ! Though I guess I would have also added Echo/Neutra to the list, they quite nailed it as well !

  • @ogramail
    @ogramail 7 місяців тому

    Great video as always. I do love Tayeb's productions (my purple Radcliffe Le Dôme is a stunner and it will be hard to wait for the turquoise Inversée).
    You could have mentionned CW...Nope, you did! I am found of Atowak (the Tarantula) and Boldr (the Safari Vogelkop Superb with its musou black dial). I will get the MD watches Caturix (a fantastic regulator watch) after the kickstarter campain that has been a fantastic success. Oh, and Henry Archer is making superb divers for around 500€
    Thanks again Andrew!

  • @leonm2407
    @leonm2407 7 місяців тому

    Very entertaining, and the insight into some brands previously unknown to me is the icing on the cake.

  • @watcheswithabdullah
    @watcheswithabdullah 7 місяців тому +5

    About time someone showed Beaubleu some love. Still can't spell it right, though 😂Another great video my dear Mr. Talking Hands!

  • @peakrider4886
    @peakrider4886 7 місяців тому

    Hi Andrew. I’m Richard and I have an addiction. I love Lorier watches and can’t stop accumulating them. It started with the Neptune diver in black and white 4 years ago, then added a Gemini Nero chronograph last year, and just yesterday, perhaps their best watch to date, a white dial Astra. It’s gorgeous, everyday watch to rival an OP.

  • @1vegasdood
    @1vegasdood 7 місяців тому

    As a new horo enthusiast, I have learned so much from your channel. With all the garbage on television, I would vote that you become the first late night comedian tv host horologist! I must own a Beaubleu this year!

  • @micknick74
    @micknick74 7 місяців тому +15

    Off topic, I'm pretty sure you're next in line to take Sir David Attenborough place for commentaries when time's due 😂 brilliant 👌🏻

    • @gtaylor2770
      @gtaylor2770 7 місяців тому +3

      Now THAT is a great idea.

  • @Bluth53
    @Bluth53 7 місяців тому

    Highly enjoyable content mate. This one especially, because it's making my mind wonder what can be tomorrow, compared to what might be someday...

  • @D3Vlicious
    @D3Vlicious 7 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this. Now that Arken is on my radar.

    • @spencerhardy6495
      @spencerhardy6495 7 місяців тому

      Same but just went on their site and the pre-order window is closed.

  • @nurbolkenessov3996
    @nurbolkenessov3996 7 місяців тому +1

    As a viewer from Kazakhstan, the mention was surprising 😅
    Looking forward for more independent content from AMW

  • @ManwithScents
    @ManwithScents 7 місяців тому +1

    That orange gradient and that purple gradient dial face are pretty nice

  • @D3ZG1978
    @D3ZG1978 7 місяців тому +1

    Love Zelos, love Baltic and love RZE too! Great video 😊

  • @nathanaelsmith3553
    @nathanaelsmith3553 7 місяців тому +1

    Ive got the swordfish field - I bought it while drunk. I do like it though, most of the time. Sometimes I look at it and think: "yeah - nice". Other times I think : "mmm... bit odd." Solid watch though. Good finishing for the money and original design.

  • @shrkys4
    @shrkys4 7 місяців тому +2

    Wordsmith extraordinaire! Love your content and your delivery, always a pleasurable break to watch your videos!

  • @zenojakobe1473
    @zenojakobe1473 7 місяців тому

    4 Zelos, 3 Helm and 2 Long Island watches - love them all

  • @Hachithedoggiestofdogs
    @Hachithedoggiestofdogs 7 місяців тому +3

    Great video...I rarely see a watch I've not heard of/seen before. But you've put out a video full of them😂.
    Bravo sir🫡

  • @paulketchupwitheverything767
    @paulketchupwitheverything767 7 місяців тому

    I've been getting several adverts for Méraud watches recently. Particularly their Bonaire model, which reminds me of timepieces from a couple of more expensive makers.

  • @MJGreptiles
    @MJGreptiles 7 місяців тому

    Glad Benjamin James is getting some spotlight. Can’t wait for my Scarifour

  • @frankbruno6714
    @frankbruno6714 7 місяців тому

    Any comments on?:
    -Maen
    -D1 Milano
    -Venezianico
    -Agelocer
    -Soner
    They offer some interesting watches.

  • @matyasm
    @matyasm 7 місяців тому

    Ciao, lovely video. I suggest Raidillion brand. Simply because I fell in love with it and its story.

  • @ashkanmoaddel619
    @ashkanmoaddel619 7 місяців тому

    Watching your videos feels like having a conversation with that rare dude who is also into watches, warm , friendly and interesting, one day i would visit england to see you in person and a chelsea match:)

  • @ninjasrose1653
    @ninjasrose1653 7 місяців тому

    The watches are what I come here for. Your use of the English language is what I find most impressive and always stay for haha. You could be talking about carpet samples and I'd likely still remain engaged until the end.

  • @lawrencefarrell2134
    @lawrencefarrell2134 7 місяців тому +2

    A great review. Informative and entertaining.

  • @stupidocanerosa
    @stupidocanerosa 7 місяців тому +1

    I do believe that Studio UnderdOg CEO has a bust of Andrew in his office. Or he should have one because the boost you gave them while working for the previous channel, makes them float on orders for a few years in the future. I am one of those who fell in love and bought two of their watches, just because of your description. And another one I discovered and bought, that should be in the next "affordable but cool watches" list is Maen, with the Manhattan 37. A serious banger for the money. And, oh... Atowak. The third coming from your suggestions, the Ettore Drift on my wrist right now . And naturally I do own an MR01 too.
    I mean, probably I'm a tad too prone to your soothing voice but I have to admit that once I saw the above mentioned watches, I couldn't agree more with your impressions. Every word, every joke, every vision was simply there, spot on. Never regretted any of this purchases and so... thank you for making me discover the "cheap" fun in collecting watches. Next will probably be the upside down thingy featured on this one...

  • @stepsinpairs
    @stepsinpairs 7 місяців тому

    I really like that Benjamin James design. It took me a while to figure out what it reminded me of - a Mark Carson Kailua. I haven't thought about that watch for a while and now I want one again.

  • @daneturk3393
    @daneturk3393 6 місяців тому

    Great video. have the Nivada Grenchen. Love it! Been trying to decide what Zelos and Baltic models I like best. Lots to close from. Oddly enough I found myself wanting the watermelon after this haha 😂

  • @goodwill_hunting
    @goodwill_hunting 6 місяців тому

    Lorier is by far one of the best affordable watches, all for under $500 that hit so far above thier price point with not only design but finishing as well.

  • @anirudhvalluri4904
    @anirudhvalluri4904 7 місяців тому

    Missing the Echo Neutra Cortina 1956 GMT. Stunning piece.

  • @chriscon8463
    @chriscon8463 7 місяців тому

    That Scarifour is gorgeous, and it looks like it has lume, too! I’d love that on a dress watch; that puts it into GADA territory.

  • @jtapia1123
    @jtapia1123 6 місяців тому

    I own Zelos Mako v3 Ti Teal, I can concur, it is so ridiculously spec'd for the price and a fun, trusty dive. Ultimate beater for a spoiled mid-range collector. The blue meteorite Mako GMT is insanely beautiful in person as well.

  • @simonjohnpowell
    @simonjohnpowell 7 місяців тому

    I love my Karlskrona baltic shield. Cheap and ludicrously well made.

  • @WisdomDaCosta
    @WisdomDaCosta Місяць тому

    One of your finest AM 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @BigTwinkle
    @BigTwinkle 7 місяців тому

    Nice list. The Beaubleu uses the same '3 circles' idea as the Mr Jones 'Colour Venn'.

  • @nikkimiddlekillsday5161
    @nikkimiddlekillsday5161 7 місяців тому

    Haven't bought a Zelos yet but I REALLY like what I see

  • @GuyVanderAa
    @GuyVanderAa 7 місяців тому

    Over 200k. Well done sir! Congratulations. 🎉
    Interesting pick of watches. I’m sometimes stuck on the caliber inside. But they are damn good. 👍😎

  • @terrysky83
    @terrysky83 7 місяців тому +2

    Ordering the Arken right now... Oh dear, credit limit exceeded from previous Omega acquisition 😢

  • @cunawarit
    @cunawarit 6 місяців тому

    That Benjamin James quartz is sublime!

  • @hattyfarbuckle
    @hattyfarbuckle 7 місяців тому

    Some great watches I was unaware of. The Baltanic Iceberg is great... the Arken would be my grail GMT if the hour hands were the same size so they could be synch'd as one...the BlowBluey has pert 24hour nipples to look at ... and the Underdog with radioactive blancmange dial is incredible... they could all be on my "warchbucket" list if at least 40mm

  • @wolterbalthazar5739
    @wolterbalthazar5739 7 місяців тому +1

    Vario actually has some Mother of Pearl options for a bit cheaper, though i believe most of them are sold out.

  •  7 місяців тому +1

    Great list, thank you 🙂

    •  7 місяців тому

      Oh, love the Arken Alterum, BTW

  • @jerrysanchez5453
    @jerrysanchez5453 6 місяців тому

    That purple Benjamin James dial is amazing

  • @boerboelmummy5075
    @boerboelmummy5075 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Andrew.

  • @morganthedruid1
    @morganthedruid1 7 місяців тому

    Epic as ever. I know JOMW and many others have trodden the well worn Chinese watch path but I imagine there will be a lot of interest in your opinion of these mostly derivative but often seriously well made watches

  • @thehappywristchannel
    @thehappywristchannel 7 місяців тому

    Cleverly written as usual 👏. Love that Beaubleu, but I have a hard enough time reading the time on a Seiko Turtle, so those Ring-style hands would make my brain explode...but who cares what time it is anyway? As long as my watch looks cool

  • @thedarkside0fmars
    @thedarkside0fmars 7 місяців тому

    Thank you to both patreon members

  • @rashti47
    @rashti47 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for introducing great-quality lines. I liked some of the designs, but unfortunately, they are all in small sizes. I usually look for 43mm and above.

  • @Newerasamearea
    @Newerasamearea 7 місяців тому +1

    Islander northport: showing the omiwatari and lake suwa dials weren't that hard. Throwing in a sapphire bezel for good measure. Insane value.
    Batavia atelier does ming on a budget (well). One of the best guillochet dials at any price.
    Orient divers are great value, in particular fume dials and triton mk mkII in Orange and green.
    Bulova lunar pilot. A real moon watch 10x cheaper than the other.

  • @LoadedGunsMusic
    @LoadedGunsMusic 5 місяців тому

    Loved the Jeff Buckley reference! Top quality video.

  • @matthewmonaghan3122
    @matthewmonaghan3122 7 місяців тому +2

    Great review again👍Thankyou

  • @SamLed1111
    @SamLed1111 7 місяців тому

    Love the Nivads Chronoking. However for my 7.5" wrist 38mm is way too small.

  • @jm311113
    @jm311113 7 місяців тому +11

    C.Ward are on another level now indeed

  • @ghostwarrior1289
    @ghostwarrior1289 6 місяців тому +5

    looked up the Zelos watches. They aren't $300.00. They are over $1000.00.

  • @ichirofakename
    @ichirofakename 7 місяців тому +7

    For those who see an $800 watch and think: cheap.

  • @Mixedpuppy
    @Mixedpuppy 6 місяців тому

    I really enjoyed your review. I’m surprised you didn’t review Dan Henry Watches. Have you reviewed his watches before?

  • @pymandragore
    @pymandragore 7 місяців тому

    Wearing my Baltic aquascaphe now and still the big love. Every release they offer is unique, simple but in a positive way with crazy attention to detail.. love this Brand and wish them all the best!
    You could also test the Chinese watches, there are not only replicas 😅. I own a Seagull pilot horizon, it’s a pleasure to wear. Same quality as an entry level Swiss watch, curiously with one of the best straps I ever had on a watch.
    Lobinni makes great and (sometimes just a bit inspired) but stunning dress watches. Merkur is also a bit inspired but have great models!
    Good luck if you start investigating in the Chinese watches world, it’s a journey😅