A lot of you have been asking me to cover Rebels. I already have a rebels retrospective video! ua-cam.com/video/dLN_kJjQJwM/v-deo.htmlsi=ACXXS5a_w1Sqbi-1
@@thegoldman25They should take each arc and release them as Disney + original films. It would give them a higher budget and wouldn't confuse people as much as a "season 8"
@@megalodon2k2 also clone wars is an antology series so they can release the episodes out of order and no one would give a sh**. Theres literally an entire arc released here on youtube.
@@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly Most of the episodes that were out of order don't really raise questions but releasing 40 episodes after the "final season" would make some less experienced fans ask questions.
I’m actually glad that the Lucasfilm’s interest in Star Wars The Clone Wars was revived in 2020 during the Pandemic. Especially when Disney+ launched in several countries like Europe during the pandemic.
In season 2 of Bad Batch, Tarkin tells his fellow Imperials that the clones grew far too individualistic and free-thinking under Jedi leadership and therefore they must be phased out of the Imperial military. He sees this as a problem but really he laid out the reason that we've come to love the clones over the years.
I honestly feel the same way about the inhibitor chips. Rather than having the clones be cold, ruthlessly efficient soldiers in every waking moment of their lives, it's way more impactful to spend an entire TV series making them human, only to cap it off with the biggest of big bads forcibly ripping that humanity away from them.
One thing brought up in the inhibitor chip arc that’s arguably one of the saddest elements of Star Wars is the repeated line of “the mission, the nightmares, they’re finally over…” the implication that the Clones had nightmares about Order 66 (and I’m pretty sure it was established that they didn’t even know what the nightmares meant) will forever make me stop dead in my tracks and my heart sink to my stomach 💔 At least, assuming the extent to which that’s canon of course
The Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple did make its way into canon later in the Tarkin novel and has since popped in various books and comics. Most recently it's actually been quite key in the High Republic books. We also see a Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple that the Collosus crew stumbled upon in the Resistance show indicating how this "purification" was something the Jedi did often.
@@PascimanArc23 oh that I didn't know. I only remember watching These Episodes not knowing that it is the end. I also remember that I actualy liked the Story with JarJar and Mace and crying when fives died.
I remember finding the chip arc on the internet before the season released and it was in german with no subtitles so I just tried to figure out the story by what was happening
19:12 Maul formed the Shadow Collective during season 5, that’s the alliance between Maul and Savage, the Crime Syndicates and Death Watch. The Shadow Collective is actually dismantled by the end of Son of Dathomir and after that he starts Crimson Dawn as his own Crime Syndicate.
My Top 10 TCW arc‘s in order from 1-10: - Siege of Mandalore - Ahsoka framed - Fives conspiracy - Maul conquers Mandalore - Battle of Umbara - Maul‘s ressurection - Yoda‘s journey - the citadel - Obi-Wan undercover - Onderon rebels Honorable mentions to all the nightsisters arcs I just couldn’t squeeze them in there
The fives arc hit me so hard when I was a kid, Sometimes I still can't bring myself to watch it because I love fives. And the series did a great job making me truly feel as if I had actually lost someone when he died on screen.
A lore reason I defend the inhibitor chips is this: Since having clones kill jedi was Palpatine's endgame for the war, he would not want to risk any clones somehow defying their programming. Multiple stories have characters that were brainwashed at birth, only to break free. Take Finn, for example. Lastly, Palpatine wore a black robe and was physically scarred when he gave the order. He told everyone about his scars after giving the order. The clones would've assumed it was an imposter calling them.
3:56 this is precisely why we don’t see more shows like this. Becoming a Billionaire like George is not easy to do. And to do it without sacrificing your morals and your character is something that takes an extreme amount of luck. Billionaires rarely have the heart to be passionate about this kind of story telling, and those who do/did probably don’t have the time anymore. It takes someone really special to do what George did. He made and told a story (the original trilogy) and became rich off of it. But instead of milking it for all it was worth right off the bat, he took a break. It gave him time to think “what other stories can I tell?”. And then he took all of that money he made before, and funded them himself. He seemingly didn’t care if it made or lost him money, he just wanted to tell stories. And I think that’s awesome.
That’s right, after just 6 months after buying Star Wars, Disney proved they had no idea what they were doing by “winding down” this masterpiece 3 seasons early.
Like Gold Man’s video said, Lucasfilm didn’t have a choice. The Clone Wars was still airing on Cartoon Network (which is owned by Warner Bros, a direct rival to Disney). And because of the distribution contracts with Cartoon Network, they couldn’t air The Clone Wars on Disney Channel or Disney XD. Not to mention that the show was getting more darker than the executives wanted it to be. This isn’t even a Disney issue; even Cartoon Network didn’t like how dark the show was getting. These are still networks targeted for kids. Which is why when Lucasfilm began production on Rebels for Disney XD, they aimed for a more lighter tone compared to The Clone Wars. Nowadays, Disney doesn’t really have an issue with dark and mature content. But, back then, it was an issue. And not even just for Disney, but WB/CN too.
Recently on UA-cam a massive influx of Expanded Universe nerds have proclaimed their distaste of Clone Wars 2008 for pissing all over the pre established canon at the time, and one of the major criticisms of the show these nutcases have are about the Inhibitor Chip Arc, because they somehow think that the clones being ruthlessly cold and mindlessly following orders is more badass than what Clone Wars 2008 did with the clones, and that the chips were an easy way out. I genuinely don't know how someone with their mental faculties in order can utter an opinion like that, but these EU nerds think like that.
@@MarceloZ2 The same people who vouch 03 under rule of cool right? Yeah these guys remind me of what the standard critic thinks the Sequel Trilogy fan act like, stubborn about their content being superior to anything else in the fanbase and refuse any criticism whatsoever even if they argued the same thing for Disney content.
@@MarceloZ2 clones cold following orders isn't more badass, but that's what they were intended to be. Clones were engineered and bred so they would do the things they need to out of their loyalty. 10 years of training and stuff.
@mrzirak792 I know, and this is true to the clones as portrayed in the 2008 show as well as the Clone Wars Multimedia Project in the EU. The difference is that the 2008 show developed the clones and they eventually were more than mindless drones cold following orders, and in the CWMP, they never became more than that, and the argument the EU nerds make about the CWMP clones being better involves them thinking the CWMP clones were more badass because they were like that, that's why I mentioned it. I disagree wholeheartedly with the EU nerds, I'll take the Clone Wars 2008 clones over the CWMP clones any day of the week in a heartbeat.
Cartoon Network contract theory makes no sense. If this were the case, they would not be able to air Season 6 on Netflix. So it's obvious that CN had the licensing contract for five seasons only. They could have easily continued the series on Netflix if they wanted to. But they didn't. So yeah, the likely reasons for the cancellation were money, not wanting to pay and work on something they did not create, and them wanting to get away from anything prequel related and cash in on the OT nostalgia prior to the release of The Force Awakens. They said as much: they wanted to focus on the OT content. Rebels was OT, Marvel comics were OT, the first Battlefront videogame was OT only, and so on and so forth. Terrible decision overall, and extremely disappointing to this very day, next to cancelling Star Wars: 1313 and shutting down Lucasarts and giving away the videogame licensing rights to EA. I find it hard to forgive and get over The Clone Wars' cancellation still.
my eyes popped when you said yuuzhan vong that is something I never expected to hear in relation to clone wars as someone who recently got further into the expanded universe and finds it pretty interesting
The inhibitor chip arc needs no defending. It undeniably made the prequels (ROTS especially) better and that is half of the entire merit of Clone Wars as a series as well as just being a great show.
Something to also remember is that basically everything star wars related that was in production during the disney buyout was canceled. Also one kf the biggest reasons rebels looked ao cheap early on was because they had to basically start from scratch with their assets/models while the later seasons of the clone wars had several years worth of assets to pull from. Thats why after an arc like the one with the togruta, you start to see a bunch of them in the backgrounds.
I wanna chime in about the Anakin/Obi-Wan scene when they’re talking about Ahsoka’s decision to leave the Jedi Order… and ending it off with Anakin and Obi-Wan what were to happen if THEIR paths diverged. Eventually HELLO THERE on UA-cam - you know the guy who animated the Mustafar duel in Episode III TCW-styled - animated his version of that scene, and it frames Anakin by the end of Episode III as really being isolated as the war dragged on.
Season 6 is highly underrated imo. The fives arc is amazing, Clovis arc is great, and the yoda arc is one of the best arcs in the show. I’m talking top 3 or 5. They really went out on a high note since they thought this would be the last season
Following arcs in seasons 7 and 8 would have been even better. These arcs were as good as they were, and they were always in S6. They didn't have to put any extra effort, because they were just that good. Clone Wars got better with each subsequent season, even though by the time of S3, it was already pretty damn good. So yeah, we were so robbed with Disney cancelling the show, and all those amazing arcs being lost forever.
Always dropping when I'm looking for something to watch. I would love to see a similar series on Star Wars: Visions as there is a lot to cover episode to episode
I will forever disagree with the EU nerds that the Clone Wars multimedia project was better than what Clone Wars 2008 brought to the Star Wars canon. The CWMP had some good stories, but Clone Wars 2008 brought even better stories with cooler solutions to events in ROTS and with way better characters. I really don't care that Clone Wars 2008 pissed all over the CWMP, it is better.
Boba's final arc absolutely needs to be adapted into something someday. Hell, they should've already done it before Book of Boba released because as is only hardcore fans know of Boba and Cad Bane's history that's alluded to in that show.
21:33 apparently, it is. I wish they would adapt it as a miniseries or something cause, let's be, not many are interested in reading secondary material such as books.
The unreleased episodes and their potential always breaks my heart. The son of dathomir comic is fantastic and I can only imagine how much better it would be been watching Maul do it instead. And even tho bad batch kinda killed the canon of it, Dark Disciple is a fantastic story and I don’t read a lot of novels, but it’s so good. Fives is really the only worthwhile part of this season for me, I wish so badly to see SOD or DD see the light of day someday, I could see Maul doing that in a Tales of the Sith maybe. Thank god for S7 so at least bad batch and Seige of mandalore got seen. Edit: didn’t know u were gonna talk abt them, you are the man Gold Man 🙌
In my opinion the inhibitor chip and the Clone arcs in this show is one the most Star Wars stories ever made, bc it reflects one big themes present in the franchise, about underdogs becoming something greater and better. A farm boy from a desert can become a great hero (Luke Skywalker), a evil sith lord can reveal himself to be a fallen hero capable of redemption (Darth Vader) and a group create to be soldier in a war can reveal themselves to be more human than many belive (the clones).
I think the main point about Yoda keeping Dooku a secret is half because it shows that the Jedi are too arrogant because they had just begun the outer rim sieges and were months away from winning the war and because it proves that Dooku was right about Yoda was everything wrong with the "modern" Jedi Despite being very wise Yoda and all his piers were too complacent in their ways to even THINK about changing Yoda is NOT the good guy in the prequels only after he "Looses" the fight with Sidious does he rethink his life and learn more about the force even when training Luke to kill his dad he doesn't even entertain the Idea the Vader can come back to the light
I feel like you should’ve also mentioned another reason why the Clone Wars was canceled was because Disney was focusing way too much on the Original Trilogy era at that time and the clone wars wouldn’t have fit with all of the pandering.
16:48 yea the part were they did something was offscreen supposely. They launched an investegation and they were almost figuring it out but then the corusant attack happened and we know what happened after that.
The Kashyyyk Arc was actually adapted in the Bad Batch! Season 2 Episode 6, “Tribe”! From my understanding it’s not a 1:1 adaptation but there’s a lot of elements they used from the unfinished arc into TBB episode. Tho I think Yoda was replaced by Gungi.
I hope we eventually get a version of the canceled arcs that didn't get fleshed out (the Boba Fett arc, the Sith Temple arc, the Top Gun arc. I can go ahead and leave the Vong arc tho).
Will you discuss the micro series? And the clone wars multimedia project and discus how the timelines are different etc. Also fun fact the Clovis Arc was supposed to be in season 5 before they shifted to focus on Ahaoka more.
Given what we know about Andors production its likely they actually had a very large part of production done on the writing end for season 2 which puts it ahead of others shows of our time relatively.
I think a missed opportunity here was a What If story in which half of the total clones refused Order 66 and helped the Jedi instead but some things play out the same. Anakin still turning to the Dark Side for example.
While this is not my favorite season by any means i really like the last Yoda episodes diving into the Force and Qui Gon! Im not the biggest fan of Clovis. I always skip it whenever i watch through the Clone Wars through. I also don't dislike the inhibitor chips but I don't like the humanization of the Clones. The clones were supposed to be living droids to show clones are just like droids to demonstrate that Palpatine controls everything. I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anything, but this is just my opinion. I also much prefer Temuera Morrison rather than Dee Bradley Baker, as he sounds more like an elite no-nonsense soldier
Regarding the inclusion of inhibitor chips in lore, I'm actually pretty indifferent to either option (i.e. either having the clones do it out of their free will or using the inhibitor chips to remove their individuality). I think either option has it's pros and cons but they add their own flavour to the tragedy that is Revenge of the Sith If they didn't include the inhibitor chips: there's no denying that they would need to do the work to justify why the clones would turn on the jedi, especially the padawans/younglings. But (at least for the jedi generals) I think there could've been an argument; Pong Krell. Especially within the 501st and 212th who we're the victims to Krell's plan on Umbara (not to mention the regiments he served beforehand) they could play with this idea with sections of clones growing more distrustful of the jedi; are there more jedi who are like Krell? do the jedi even value them as much as they say they do? I think it *could* work as another flavour of tragedy, that being it was the clones individuality and feelings that led to the Jedi's downfall. It was a double edged sword to put it short. What could also drive them towards the edge is that if a respected Jedi general like Anakin, who gradually came to distrust the jedi pretty much confirmed their fears. Of course there are many other issues with this to address like; the clones not being on a unified front with this idea, leading to inner conflicts (Which weren't seen in ROTS) and of course the younglings which they killed without hesitation. For including the inhibitor chips: I really love this tragedy and Irony because throughout the series we're told that there are similarities between the clones and the droids; they're mass produced for war and were designed with the *intent* to be subservient and obey orders without question. But of course, we see that's pretty much where the similarities end as the clones are ultimately human in spite of their origins and purpose; they can think for themselves and forge connections. Order 66 essentially spits on that idea and puts them back in factory mode. No matter how the surviving clones grew alongside their peers and understood the galaxy, for that pivotal moment in the galaxy; They. Were. droids.
Ahsoka also figured out Anakin and Padme were together, not just Clovis. "I understand. More than you realize, I understand wanting to walk away from the Order." "I know." And Obi-Wan also knew, but he never thought it was that serious. He thought that, like in his case with Satine, Anakin would just get over it. He never thought it went as far as secret marriage and breaking all the oaths.
Love the s6 thumbnail with the clone as a reference to the dvds! Though, as a collector, it makes me sad that Lucasfilm didn't keep with the formula and have a singular character like fives or padme or someone
Doesn’t should realize that the best way to repair their image and get their fanbase back is simply to finish these episodes that are literally already written and half are already partially made
Honestly before season 7, I loved the ending of this season as an ending to the show. Yoda getting a vision of the future and realizing that, even if he doesn't know how, the end of the jedi is drawing near. Yet, he takes solace in the fact that the sith will be defeated for good, and the jedi order will rise again because of luke.
15:50 What would the Council do? The Sith was enemies of the Jedi, not the Senate. Windu states that the belief in the Republic War Machine would stop if it all became public and the Republic would 100% lose the war against the Separatists. What could they do about the clones? Also, them acting against Palpatine would only prove Palpatines point that the Jedi's are acting against the senate since they wouldn't have the senates approval to make moves on their own.
@@thegoldman25 I agree, they were never taught how to lead an army. The Jedi were horrible generals early on in the war. But you need to take into account that it's year 3 of the war at the time of their discovery. It's a bit to late to realize that they never should've been put in charge. But they couldn't just leave the war. It's a political game. How would it look if the Jedi just left the war effort for a reason that's not a concern for the republic? It'd look like they suddenly stopped caring and it'd look like they acted against the interest of the republic they're supposed to serve. It's not the smart thing to do but it's quite logical that they naively chose to turn a blind eye on their discovery and hope to end the war before the clones started carrying out the mission they're supposed to do. And I don't think I'm making conclusions based on viewers perspective here. They could investigate it further but the Jedi had very little margin to act at that time of the war. The series clearly shows how powrful Palpatine's influence is, as well as how the Jedi are pressured by the Senate.
I've always had one problem with inhibitor chips: not so much their existence, but the feasibility of spreading the order to all clones. In Revenge of the Sith, Clone Wars and Bad Batch, we see the commanders receiving transmissions from Palpatine. But normal soldiers? Do they get a boost if their commanders get Order 66? In reality the order is broadcast to all clones, and we only see the commanders receive it? Sticking with the previous indoctrination, it would make more sense for the clones to revolt en masse, because that's what they knew would happen.
I think there was a broadcast to all clones, but palp wanted to make sure that the most skilled Jedi are really dead, so he contacted clones like Cody personal to make sure they were really following the order :D
We do have differing opinion's on Star Wars but the prequels were not bad. A little clunky yes but the world building was something to be admired. In comparison, Episode 7 had a good set up/world building only for episode 8 to do nothing but subvert expectations and leave Episode 9 with nothing to stand on...Hence why Episode 9 was terrible (Due to the fault of Episode 8).
The first 4 episodes of season 6 should fall under cruel and unusual punishment the way they make you watch a fan favorite character embark on a journey you know is destined to fail
I actually wasn't a huge fan of the Fives arc, I know I am in the minority, but the last four episodes this season are great. Especially episode 10 and 13. I like the inhibitor chip idea and have no doubt that if the current canon came before legends, people would have no issue with it.
Bounty Hunters and the Yuuzhan Vong episodes are some of the most disappointing Star Wars cancelled media, up there with 1313 and Lucas's live action show. I think Cad Bane and Boba Fett's stories would have been much better then the Disney show and the Yuuzhan Vong in canon is just a much better reality then TROS.
A lot of you have been asking me to cover Rebels. I already have a rebels retrospective video! ua-cam.com/video/dLN_kJjQJwM/v-deo.htmlsi=ACXXS5a_w1Sqbi-1
52 unfinished episodes 😭😭😭😭😭😭 my heart just sank
Yeah it's so sad, I wish Lucas never sold to Disney 😢
technically now just 40, but that's still so many
@@thegoldman25They should take each arc and release them as Disney + original films. It would give them a higher budget and wouldn't confuse people as much as a "season 8"
@@megalodon2k2 also clone wars is an antology series so they can release the episodes out of order and no one would give a sh**. Theres literally an entire arc released here on youtube.
@@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly Most of the episodes that were out of order don't really raise questions but releasing 40 episodes after the "final season" would make some less experienced fans ask questions.
The inhibitor chip arc is probably my favorite arc in TCW. So much foreshadowing and pieces of the puzzle fitting perfectly
RIP Fives
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I’m actually glad that the Lucasfilm’s interest in Star Wars The Clone Wars was revived in 2020 during the Pandemic. Especially when Disney+ launched in several countries like Europe during the pandemic.
Those were the good days
europe is a continent not a country
As a European, reading that hurt
Average citizen from the US who deosnt know what a continent is because they call their county America
In season 2 of Bad Batch, Tarkin tells his fellow Imperials that the clones grew far too individualistic and free-thinking under Jedi leadership and therefore they must be phased out of the Imperial military. He sees this as a problem but really he laid out the reason that we've come to love the clones over the years.
I’m working as a GP. Patients can wait. Gotta see this
Hahahaha
It feels like it’s a bigger priority
I honestly feel the same way about the inhibitor chips. Rather than having the clones be cold, ruthlessly efficient soldiers in every waking moment of their lives, it's way more impactful to spend an entire TV series making them human, only to cap it off with the biggest of big bads forcibly ripping that humanity away from them.
Yeah I like the inhibitor chip idea way more than what legends did with the clones.
One thing brought up in the inhibitor chip arc that’s arguably one of the saddest elements of Star Wars is the repeated line of “the mission, the nightmares, they’re finally over…” the implication that the Clones had nightmares about Order 66 (and I’m pretty sure it was established that they didn’t even know what the nightmares meant) will forever make me stop dead in my tracks and my heart sink to my stomach 💔
At least, assuming the extent to which that’s canon of course
The Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple did make its way into canon later in the Tarkin novel and has since popped in various books and comics. Most recently it's actually been quite key in the High Republic books.
We also see a Sith shrine under the Jedi Temple that the Collosus crew stumbled upon in the Resistance show indicating how this "purification" was something the Jedi did often.
true, but the arc itself is not canon
These videos are so nice to watch, editing is smooth, audio is crisp just a nice viewing experience
I try my best! Thanks for noticing!
Right? I always watch them during lunch.
I live in Germany and could watch the Episodes on TV. Thank you SuperRTL for releasing them on free TV, I would have been lost without you
i love hearing about people all over the world watching these shows
And we got them before anybody else I believe
@@PascimanArc23 oh that I didn't know. I only remember watching These Episodes not knowing that it is the end. I also remember that I actualy liked the Story with JarJar and Mace and crying when fives died.
I remember finding the chip arc on the internet before the season released and it was in german with no subtitles so I just tried to figure out the story by what was happening
19:12 Maul formed the Shadow Collective during season 5, that’s the alliance between Maul and Savage, the Crime Syndicates and Death Watch. The Shadow Collective is actually dismantled by the end of Son of Dathomir and after that he starts Crimson Dawn as his own Crime Syndicate.
Til this day. Even with having 7 Seasons. We still got robbed of half season 6, 7 and the whole of season 8.
2 entire seasons worth of episodes gone, reduced to atoms.
And all for what? Two mediocre, occasionally excellent, sequel shows.
@meanderingmangomanthe1stof611 at least they can always finish the episode in the future. I hope but doubt it.
@@LewisBuck2005 they could release the others as a tales of the jedi/empire type of show! Just call it tales from the clone wars!
@@kdusel1991but make them their full 22 minutes instead of 12-16
My Top 10 TCW arc‘s in order from 1-10:
- Siege of Mandalore
- Ahsoka framed
- Fives conspiracy
- Maul conquers Mandalore
- Battle of Umbara
- Maul‘s ressurection
- Yoda‘s journey
- the citadel
- Obi-Wan undercover
- Onderon rebels
Honorable mentions to all the nightsisters arcs I just couldn’t squeeze them in there
MORTIS ARC IS TOP 3!!!
@@Forest06 I liked the concepts from the mortis arc but the execution wasn't great imho.
@@Forest06 Mortis arc is honestly kind of bad
It only felt like half a season too me! If I was watching this show while it was being made I’d be Mad and I mean MAD!
i dont blame you
I completely agree with gold on the whole inhibitor chip thing and Honestly, honestly, honestly, I never cared for the expanded universe
Some stuff in the Expanded Universe is good but the majority of it is so confusing and stupid.
I absolutely love s6 and hope those remaining unused/unfinished arcs are adapted in other media or at least mentioned
Me too
@@thegoldman25 we have that with Dark Disciple and the son of dathomir comic!
genuienly thank you so much for not stretching these out over weeks or months like many other youtubers would have
Glad you like them! Making 2 of these a week is pretty doable. Thank you for tuning in for each one of these!
The fives arc hit me so hard when I was a kid, Sometimes I still can't bring myself to watch it because I love fives. And the series did a great job making me truly feel as if I had actually lost someone when he died on screen.
A lore reason I defend the inhibitor chips is this:
Since having clones kill jedi was Palpatine's endgame for the war, he would not want to risk any clones somehow defying their programming. Multiple stories have characters that were brainwashed at birth, only to break free. Take Finn, for example.
Lastly, Palpatine wore a black robe and was physically scarred when he gave the order. He told everyone about his scars after giving the order. The clones would've assumed it was an imposter calling them.
Fair points
I still can't watch the Fives arc without crying,...it and Umbara always never fail to break me❤
The clone episodes break my heart because of how good they are
3:56 this is precisely why we don’t see more shows like this. Becoming a Billionaire like George is not easy to do. And to do it without sacrificing your morals and your character is something that takes an extreme amount of luck. Billionaires rarely have the heart to be passionate about this kind of story telling, and those who do/did probably don’t have the time anymore. It takes someone really special to do what George did. He made and told a story (the original trilogy) and became rich off of it. But instead of milking it for all it was worth right off the bat, he took a break. It gave him time to think “what other stories can I tell?”. And then he took all of that money he made before, and funded them himself. He seemingly didn’t care if it made or lost him money, he just wanted to tell stories. And I think that’s awesome.
Lucas is one of a kind
@@thegoldman25absolutely 💯
Also once again great video! Appreciate you touching on the unfinished arcs. Honestly gonna be sad when you're done with them lol
I appreciate you tuning in for each one!
That’s right, after just 6 months after buying Star Wars, Disney proved they had no idea what they were doing by “winding down” this masterpiece 3 seasons early.
to be fair they didn't really have a choice
Just look at the Disney Infinity 3.0 Prequel play set. It’s based on the Clone Wars, but it doesn’t follow up on anything in the show.
Like Gold Man’s video said, Lucasfilm didn’t have a choice. The Clone Wars was still airing on Cartoon Network (which is owned by Warner Bros, a direct rival to Disney). And because of the distribution contracts with Cartoon Network, they couldn’t air The Clone Wars on Disney Channel or Disney XD.
Not to mention that the show was getting more darker than the executives wanted it to be. This isn’t even a Disney issue; even Cartoon Network didn’t like how dark the show was getting. These are still networks targeted for kids. Which is why when Lucasfilm began production on Rebels for Disney XD, they aimed for a more lighter tone compared to The Clone Wars.
Nowadays, Disney doesn’t really have an issue with dark and mature content. But, back then, it was an issue. And not even just for Disney, but WB/CN too.
Dang, I wasn’t aware that the Inhibitor Chip Arc needed defending.
Recently on UA-cam a massive influx of Expanded Universe nerds have proclaimed their distaste of Clone Wars 2008 for pissing all over the pre established canon at the time, and one of the major criticisms of the show these nutcases have are about the Inhibitor Chip Arc, because they somehow think that the clones being ruthlessly cold and mindlessly following orders is more badass than what Clone Wars 2008 did with the clones, and that the chips were an easy way out. I genuinely don't know how someone with their mental faculties in order can utter an opinion like that, but these EU nerds think like that.
@@MarceloZ2 The same people who vouch 03 under rule of cool right?
Yeah these guys remind me of what the standard critic thinks the Sequel Trilogy fan act like, stubborn about their content being superior to anything else in the fanbase and refuse any criticism whatsoever even if they argued the same thing for Disney content.
@@MarceloZ2 clones cold following orders isn't more badass, but that's what they were intended to be. Clones were engineered and bred so they would do the things they need to out of their loyalty. 10 years of training and stuff.
@mrzirak792 I know, and this is true to the clones as portrayed in the 2008 show as well as the Clone Wars Multimedia Project in the EU. The difference is that the 2008 show developed the clones and they eventually were more than mindless drones cold following orders, and in the CWMP, they never became more than that, and the argument the EU nerds make about the CWMP clones being better involves them thinking the CWMP clones were more badass because they were like that, that's why I mentioned it. I disagree wholeheartedly with the EU nerds, I'll take the Clone Wars 2008 clones over the CWMP clones any day of the week in a heartbeat.
@MarceloZ2 if you think there wasn't reg clones that weren't cold order followers, you haven't read EU 😐
Cartoon Network contract theory makes no sense. If this were the case, they would not be able to air Season 6 on Netflix. So it's obvious that CN had the licensing contract for five seasons only. They could have easily continued the series on Netflix if they wanted to. But they didn't. So yeah, the likely reasons for the cancellation were money, not wanting to pay and work on something they did not create, and them wanting to get away from anything prequel related and cash in on the OT nostalgia prior to the release of The Force Awakens. They said as much: they wanted to focus on the OT content. Rebels was OT, Marvel comics were OT, the first Battlefront videogame was OT only, and so on and so forth. Terrible decision overall, and extremely disappointing to this very day, next to cancelling Star Wars: 1313 and shutting down Lucasarts and giving away the videogame licensing rights to EA. I find it hard to forgive and get over The Clone Wars' cancellation still.
fair point
#completetheclonewars we were able to get season 7 by asking for it! Let’s get them to finish it properly!
They have 8 Seasons Planned 😭 18:25 love the dark disciple book 📖
Still keeps me up at night we never got to see the siege of coruscant in the 3d clone wars.
my eyes popped when you said yuuzhan vong that is something I never expected to hear in relation to clone wars as someone who recently got further into the expanded universe and finds it pretty interesting
The inhibitor chip arc needs no defending. It undeniably made the prequels (ROTS especially) better and that is half of the entire merit of Clone Wars as a series as well as just being a great show.
Something to also remember is that basically everything star wars related that was in production during the disney buyout was canceled. Also one kf the biggest reasons rebels looked ao cheap early on was because they had to basically start from scratch with their assets/models while the later seasons of the clone wars had several years worth of assets to pull from. Thats why after an arc like the one with the togruta, you start to see a bunch of them in the backgrounds.
We are so back
Wowza, meesah got a big suprise😂 didn’t know the next one was out so soon! Awesome!!🎉
I don't usually tear up when watching TV, but Fives's death broke me
I wanna chime in about the Anakin/Obi-Wan scene when they’re talking about Ahsoka’s decision to leave the Jedi Order… and ending it off with Anakin and Obi-Wan what were to happen if THEIR paths diverged.
Eventually HELLO THERE on UA-cam - you know the guy who animated the Mustafar duel in Episode III TCW-styled - animated his version of that scene, and it frames Anakin by the end of Episode III as really being isolated as the war dragged on.
that would've been a great choice tbh
Before season 7 came out and this was the last one, I thought it was extremely underwhelming
I can get that
The return of the king
*queue LotR music
You should do a Rebels retrospective after you finish season 7!
you can watch it right now! ua-cam.com/video/dLN_kJjQJwM/v-deo.htmlsi=ACXXS5a_w1Sqbi-1
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Season 6 is highly underrated imo. The fives arc is amazing, Clovis arc is great, and the yoda arc is one of the best arcs in the show. I’m talking top 3 or 5. They really went out on a high note since they thought this would be the last season
Following arcs in seasons 7 and 8 would have been even better. These arcs were as good as they were, and they were always in S6. They didn't have to put any extra effort, because they were just that good. Clone Wars got better with each subsequent season, even though by the time of S3, it was already pretty damn good. So yeah, we were so robbed with Disney cancelling the show, and all those amazing arcs being lost forever.
it's pretty good
@ my hope is that they do eventually make most of the arcs in complete animation
Always dropping when I'm looking for something to watch. I would love to see a similar series on Star Wars: Visions as there is a lot to cover episode to episode
Your the goat please keep uploading 🙏
Will do!
Been loving this series but man it’s making me feel old lol
Hopefully the season 7 video will make you feel younger
I will forever disagree with the EU nerds that the Clone Wars multimedia project was better than what Clone Wars 2008 brought to the Star Wars canon. The CWMP had some good stories, but Clone Wars 2008 brought even better stories with cooler solutions to events in ROTS and with way better characters. I really don't care that Clone Wars 2008 pissed all over the CWMP, it is better.
I'm with you. Just because the EU was darker that doesn't mean it's better
Boba's final arc absolutely needs to be adapted into something someday. Hell, they should've already done it before Book of Boba released because as is only hardcore fans know of Boba and Cad Bane's history that's alluded to in that show.
that would be cool
21:33 apparently, it is. I wish they would adapt it as a miniseries or something cause, let's be, not many are interested in reading secondary material such as books.
Interesting
@@thegoldman25 Also, the return of Ventress was something Filoni and co. planned way before the Bad Batch, apparently.
10 years ago? 😢 holy hell i feel old
you are old
Son of Dathomir probably would've been my favorite clone wars arc had it come out, and Crystal Crisis would've been the funniest.
The unreleased episodes and their potential always breaks my heart. The son of dathomir comic is fantastic and I can only imagine how much better it would be been watching Maul do it instead. And even tho bad batch kinda killed the canon of it, Dark Disciple is a fantastic story and I don’t read a lot of novels, but it’s so good. Fives is really the only worthwhile part of this season for me, I wish so badly to see SOD or DD see the light of day someday, I could see Maul doing that in a Tales of the Sith maybe. Thank god for S7 so at least bad batch and Seige of mandalore got seen.
Edit: didn’t know u were gonna talk abt them, you are the man Gold Man 🙌
In my opinion the inhibitor chip and the Clone arcs in this show is one the most Star Wars stories ever made, bc it reflects one big themes present in the franchise, about underdogs becoming something greater and better.
A farm boy from a desert can become a great hero (Luke Skywalker), a evil sith lord can reveal himself to be a fallen hero capable of redemption (Darth Vader) and a group create to be soldier in a war can reveal themselves to be more human than many belive (the clones).
Inhibitor chips would be a great branding for potato chips actually 😂
so sad it was way too short- but still really nice storylines
I think the main point about Yoda keeping Dooku a secret is half because it shows that the Jedi are too arrogant because they had just begun the outer rim sieges and were months away from winning the war and because it proves that Dooku was right about Yoda was everything wrong with the "modern" Jedi
Despite being very wise Yoda and all his piers were too complacent in their ways to even THINK about changing
Yoda is NOT the good guy in the prequels only after he "Looses" the fight with Sidious does he rethink his life and learn more about the force even when training Luke to kill his dad he doesn't even entertain the Idea the Vader can come back to the light
fair points
The clovis arc really shows how palpatine is a mastermind in manipulation. Most underrated arc by far.
I feel like you should’ve also mentioned another reason why the Clone Wars was canceled was because Disney was focusing way too much on the Original Trilogy era at that time and the clone wars wouldn’t have fit with all of the pandering.
16:48 yea the part were they did something was offscreen supposely. They launched an investegation and they were almost figuring it out but then the corusant attack happened and we know what happened after that.
Not me already watching a gold man video to see this uploaded mid way through
No such thing as too much gold man
Best season by far. Even S7 doesn't compare.
S5 is my fav
@thegoldman25 The Maul arc and Hardeen arc are top.
I was also very sad that we never got to see the Captain Rex and R2 arc as that would have been a very fun arc
That would’ve been fun
The Kashyyyk Arc was actually adapted in the Bad Batch! Season 2 Episode 6, “Tribe”! From my understanding it’s not a 1:1 adaptation but there’s a lot of elements they used from the unfinished arc into TBB episode. Tho I think Yoda was replaced by Gungi.
It was going to be pretty different imo considering Yoda was a bit part of the original. But yeah a few concepts were probably brought over
I hope we eventually get a version of the canceled arcs that didn't get fleshed out (the Boba Fett arc, the Sith Temple arc, the Top Gun arc. I can go ahead and leave the Vong arc tho).
It's absolutely wild that true understanding of the Book of Boba Fett involves researching the partially produced Boba season 6 arc.
We can only dream
Sick of the Vong hate
Will you discuss the micro series? And the clone wars multimedia project and discus how the timelines are different etc.
Also fun fact the Clovis Arc was supposed to be in season 5 before they shifted to focus on Ahaoka more.
Given what we know about Andors production its likely they actually had a very large part of production done on the writing end for season 2 which puts it ahead of others shows of our time relatively.
lost missions did not just come to netflix, it did get a dvd release. i have it on my bookshelf.
true, but it was marketed as a netflix release
I think a missed opportunity here was a What If story in which half of the total clones refused Order 66 and helped the Jedi instead but some things play out the same. Anakin still turning to the Dark Side for example.
While this is not my favorite season by any means i really like the last Yoda episodes diving into the Force and Qui Gon! Im not the biggest fan of Clovis. I always skip it whenever i watch through the Clone Wars through. I also don't dislike the inhibitor chips but I don't like the humanization of the Clones. The clones were supposed to be living droids to show clones are just like droids to demonstrate that Palpatine controls everything. I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anything, but this is just my opinion.
I also much prefer Temuera Morrison rather than Dee Bradley Baker, as he sounds more like an elite no-nonsense soldier
Regarding the inclusion of inhibitor chips in lore, I'm actually pretty indifferent to either option (i.e. either having the clones do it out of their free will or using the inhibitor chips to remove their individuality). I think either option has it's pros and cons but they add their own flavour to the tragedy that is Revenge of the Sith
If they didn't include the inhibitor chips: there's no denying that they would need to do the work to justify why the clones would turn on the jedi, especially the padawans/younglings. But (at least for the jedi generals) I think there could've been an argument; Pong Krell. Especially within the 501st and 212th who we're the victims to Krell's plan on Umbara (not to mention the regiments he served beforehand) they could play with this idea with sections of clones growing more distrustful of the jedi; are there more jedi who are like Krell? do the jedi even value them as much as they say they do? I think it *could* work as another flavour of tragedy, that being it was the clones individuality and feelings that led to the Jedi's downfall. It was a double edged sword to put it short. What could also drive them towards the edge is that if a respected Jedi general like Anakin, who gradually came to distrust the jedi pretty much confirmed their fears. Of course there are many other issues with this to address like; the clones not being on a unified front with this idea, leading to inner conflicts (Which weren't seen in ROTS) and of course the younglings which they killed without hesitation.
For including the inhibitor chips: I really love this tragedy and Irony because throughout the series we're told that there are similarities between the clones and the droids; they're mass produced for war and were designed with the *intent* to be subservient and obey orders without question. But of course, we see that's pretty much where the similarities end as the clones are ultimately human in spite of their origins and purpose; they can think for themselves and forge connections. Order 66 essentially spits on that idea and puts them back in factory mode. No matter how the surviving clones grew alongside their peers and understood the galaxy, for that pivotal moment in the galaxy; They. Were. droids.
fair takes. Thank you for taking the time to write this btw. I like reading people's more in depth opinions on topics I talk about
Man I wish we would of gotten those unaired episodes, maybe at least do some specials or stream films with them?
Ahsoka also figured out Anakin and Padme were together, not just Clovis.
"I understand. More than you realize, I understand wanting to walk away from the Order."
"I know."
And Obi-Wan also knew, but he never thought it was that serious. He thought that, like in his case with Satine, Anakin would just get over it. He never thought it went as far as secret marriage and breaking all the oaths.
i suppose
Top 10🎉🎉🎉 Good vid and keep up the content❤❤
Nice profile pic btw
Love the s6 thumbnail with the clone as a reference to the dvds! Though, as a collector, it makes me sad that Lucasfilm didn't keep with the formula and have a singular character like fives or padme or someone
they've been making blu rays for the D+ shows, they should do one of season 7 as well
@@thegoldman25 i wholeheartedly agree, would be cool if they redid the complete series box set now that it's all wrapped up too
This is a pretty solid season overall! Also we need more Tim Curry as Palpatine. He was pretty good!
I’m sure Ian himself would come back. He did for Rebels
I like that Ian's back, but Tim was decent.@@thegoldman25
Doesn’t should realize that the best way to repair their image and get their fanbase back is simply to finish these episodes that are literally already written and half are already partially made
literally just wanted to rewatch s7 today
im about to rewatch it today too
Woooooo! Perfect thing to start my day with homie.
Haha thanks!
Youzhang-vong arc would have been a much, much better track to take for disney. If they ever completed that i would’ve cried happy tears
im not a vong fan, but if they do make these Rey new jedi order movies having the Vong as an enemy could be interesting
Honestly before season 7, I loved the ending of this season as an ending to the show. Yoda getting a vision of the future and realizing that, even if he doesn't know how, the end of the jedi is drawing near. Yet, he takes solace in the fact that the sith will be defeated for good, and the jedi order will rise again because of luke.
it's honestly not the worst ending, I liked Yoda's little speech there
the clone Arc in this season is my favorite in all of CW
it was really good
Will there be videos about the bad batch just like this? Or tales? That'd be amazing
I will cover the bad batch next year, probably wont do tales because i hate those shows, but I could be convinced
I hope one day we can get the unfinished arcs as specials
they should do "Tales of the Clone Wars"
I wouldve loved the Bounty Hunter and Crystal Crisis Arcs. Maybe in another timeline 😂
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I'm still baffled that Son of Dathomir wasn't revived for S7. It is still quite a gap in Maul's story for people only watching the show
15:50 What would the Council do? The Sith was enemies of the Jedi, not the Senate. Windu states that the belief in the Republic War Machine would stop if it all became public and the Republic would 100% lose the war against the Separatists. What could they do about the clones?
Also, them acting against Palpatine would only prove Palpatines point that the Jedi's are acting against the senate since they wouldn't have the senates approval to make moves on their own.
the Jedi should've left the war. It was never their place to be generals in the war anyway
or seek out answers to why the sith would do this
@@thegoldman25 I agree, they were never taught how to lead an army. The Jedi were horrible generals early on in the war. But you need to take into account that it's year 3 of the war at the time of their discovery. It's a bit to late to realize that they never should've been put in charge.
But they couldn't just leave the war. It's a political game. How would it look if the Jedi just left the war effort for a reason that's not a concern for the republic? It'd look like they suddenly stopped caring and it'd look like they acted against the interest of the republic they're supposed to serve.
It's not the smart thing to do but it's quite logical that they naively chose to turn a blind eye on their discovery and hope to end the war before the clones started carrying out the mission they're supposed to do. And I don't think I'm making conclusions based on viewers perspective here.
They could investigate it further but the Jedi had very little margin to act at that time of the war. The series clearly shows how powrful Palpatine's influence is, as well as how the Jedi are pressured by the Senate.
S6 is a fucking masterpiece
Imo the fives character arc is the best in the series
At bare minimum mount rushmore territory
It’s pretty good!
I've always had one problem with inhibitor chips: not so much their existence, but the feasibility of spreading the order to all clones.
In Revenge of the Sith, Clone Wars and Bad Batch, we see the commanders receiving transmissions from Palpatine. But normal soldiers? Do they get a boost if their commanders get Order 66? In reality the order is broadcast to all clones, and we only see the commanders receive it?
Sticking with the previous indoctrination, it would make more sense for the clones to revolt en masse, because that's what they knew would happen.
Yeah that’s a bit confusing
I think there was a broadcast to all clones, but palp wanted to make sure that the most skilled Jedi are really dead, so he contacted clones like Cody personal to make sure they were really following the order :D
Wasn't the Kashyyyk arc be kinda adapted in Bad Batch ? I mean, the main plot changed completely, but several elements were adapted in the series.
Rebels and Andor weren't terrible.
I dont know if its an unpopular opinion but god damn The Gold Man is drop dead gorgeous. Like that is one stunning man
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We do have differing opinion's on Star Wars but the prequels were not bad. A little clunky yes but the world building was something to be admired. In comparison, Episode 7 had a good set up/world building only for episode 8 to do nothing but subvert expectations and leave Episode 9 with nothing to stand on...Hence why Episode 9 was terrible (Due to the fault of Episode 8).
We can agree to disagree on that point
@@thegoldman25 I do love the content though! It is really entertaining so thank you for that.
The first 4 episodes of season 6 should fall under cruel and unusual punishment the way they make you watch a fan favorite character embark on a journey you know is destined to fail
Once the next video is out I would love to see the same thing for the bad batch, would love to get your opinion on the show
I will cover the bad batch sometime early next year. March is most likely
I actually wasn't a huge fan of the Fives arc, I know I am in the minority, but the last four episodes this season are great. Especially episode 10 and 13. I like the inhibitor chip idea and have no doubt that if the current canon came before legends, people would have no issue with it.
Wasn’t only on Netflix, they sold it on dvd too.
Bounty Hunters and the Yuuzhan Vong episodes are some of the most disappointing Star Wars cancelled media, up there with 1313 and Lucas's live action show. I think Cad Bane and Boba Fett's stories would have been much better then the Disney show and the Yuuzhan Vong in canon is just a much better reality then TROS.
Until season 7 the clone wars with season 6 began and ended with a yoda episode kind of bringing it full circle.