Kodak’s Super 8 Film: Getting Started
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Kodak’s Super 8 Film has been around for years, but what is it? Let’s take a look at this amateur analog format and find out where it came from and where it is today to get you all started with shooting it for yourselves.
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My father recently gave me his Super 8 camera and projector from the sixties and his collection of family films so I am glad that I found your channel and able to learn about this format so I can try it out!
That sort of stuff is really what makes film so significant. It's such an experience being able to see all of that stuff years and years later because it can last for so long.
@@AnalogResurgence do you know if they did ever release any new blank super 8 film reels? I’d love to make a movie with my grandparents old super 8 camera
@@professionalmoron1565 Not sure what you mean? Are you asking if they make new film for these cameras? Kodak still makes film for Super 8 that you can buy and use in these cameras to shoot with! You can check out places like Pro8mm for it.
@@AnalogResurgence yes, thank you so much. I’ve been trying to get into making movies with super 8
Just got a super 8 on eBay. It's actually a model with sound and even came with an expired sound film reel.
Which one
It's not okay to leave a roll of film in a hot car, eh? Ha! Heh, heh.
Great to see the Eumig 614 D projector featured in your video, and in the closing shot. I have the same projector, which works with both standard 8mm and Super 8 film. I used it recently to transfer several hours of Super 8 footage to digital by doing a screen recording using an iPhone 13 Pro Max. I used the Filmic Pro app which allowed me to set a frame rate of 18fps - the same as the projector frame rate. The results were very good, with virtually no flicker. In Final Cut Pro on my Mac mini, in a 1080p timeline, I used a frame rate of 25fps (I'm in a PAL country). Final Cut Pro conforms the clips to the correct speed by adding an extra frame every few frames - this was not noticeable, with smooth playback. I started with 8mm in 1963, progressing to Super 8 when that was introduced. I still have my original Canon Zoom 518 Super 8 camera. Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Great video!
Thrifted a Kodak Showtime projector in mint condition this week, so finding this video in my recommended was a total godsend, thank you
I worked with super 8 back in the early to mid 80s and alot of stop motion.
8mm is not very similar to 16mm, it is 16mm, just with the extra sprockets. Kodak also made a much better B/W Super 8 film called Plus X, which was not quite as fast as their current Tri-X, probably was ASA 40, as I recall. There are a few other Super 8 manufacturers in other countries as well as 8mm film manufacturers. Kahl films, and Wittner, among a few other possible. Adox was making a B/W Super 8 film, but they moved their plant a few years ago, and has yet to start back up Super 8 production. The B/W film they both make I think comes from Orwo film stock. Super 8, and film in general is expensive, but can be so rewarding at the same time. It's pleasure depends on the individual. Fun video, thanks for posting
Thanks for the video!
Very well explained, and concise to say the least.
Anything different about the Keystone 8mm?
I am new to super 8 and shot one film on an Ektachrome so far. I still don't understand, if I have to get it developed or if I would be able to project the roll after shooting if I buy an 8mm projector. anyone can help?
Any time you shoot film you then need to get it developed afterwards as well at a lab that is capable of processing super 8 film. The film you exposed in your camera is contained in the super 8 cartridge and if you try and take it out of the sealed plastic cartridge then it will be completely ruined by the light. Once you send it to a lab they will develop it and because it’s Ektachrome then you will get back a positive and you can project that! Here’s a directory of some labs that offer super 8 processing:
www.kodak.com/gb/en/motion/support/laboratories_directory/index.htm?blitz=off
The Motion Picture division is the only part of Kodak that's been consistently profitable. They singlehandedly brought them out of bankruptcy.
tbh it's for good reason. the quality of film is much different from digital (and imo better) so there will still be demand.
Great video! I love Super 8, and am currently making my first professional short film on it
I have my aunt’s old Kodak 8mm movie camera and recently acquired another Kodak with a turret lens combo. I’m 75 years old and I’m working on a project that will use the double pass 8mm footage. Great information!
I don’t know why youtube put this in my recommended and this might help me catch an instant block but I saw the thumbnail and immediately went “why is jay baruchel explaining super 8 film”
Informative and presented really well :)
Your estimate was pretty low! Kodak super 8 camera is only $5,495!
hey brother! Do you think you could do a video on Regular 8mm film? Or particularly, somewhere that develops that kind of film?
Thank you for this. So informative and important, especially since the film, developing and digitizing can add up to nearly $150 per 50' roll! But, there is nothing like Super-8. Gorgeous. Evocative. Poetic.
I grew up with my dad shooting standard 8 and then Super 8. I followed on from him. Then graduated through vhs,svhs,mini dv and now digital slr etc. Good on you for telling others about this stuff. My youngest son started off similar to me and now works in the Film industry on Hollywood movies etc.
Oh UA-cam algorithms recommend me your channel. It’s like matchmaking success. I subbed and liked your content. Hope to see more content cheers!
I'd love to own a super 8 camera, but I have to prove to myself I want to make videos so i recently found my flip camera from 2009 and have been using it again. Thanks for the information.
I still have my flip camera😂it was my first camera I ever bought and I saved for forever for it.
Very well prevented and illustrated
My kinda topic
Perfectly explained but be informed please that also existed a double Super 8 format , which were used in
socialist countries approximately since 1973. I still have fully functional prefect Russian camera for this format - Quarz DS 8-M. It had 3 lenses and one of them - widescreen - created beautiful plastic images within a distance of one meter. I loved this camera and this format. And some of my movies are published on UA-cam too.
That's actually something I hadn't heard of! Maybe I'll focus on that in the future and talk about it because that's an interesting combination of Regular 8 and Super 8.
I'm tired of the word Lo-Fi
Your channel is awesome, and deserves more credit than the amount of subs! We share the same passion in sure, and I appreciate your efforts for amateur filmers like me!
Your channel is great. I hope to have a Super 8 channel going once I get my film back from the lab to talk about(first reel ever shot). It's been an up and down adventure getting a camera that works. Anyway, I appreciate all the work you put into these videos. Keep it up! Us film dorks are out here cheering for you!
Just a few years ago all theatres went to digital. Where are all the theatrical films? I can not even google any history of film and subjects relating to theatre films used in theatres across the country There needs to be something on the web to keep the memorie of film going The youth of today will not know what film prints were that circulated to drive ins and inside theatres...across this country and the world.
There should be a documentary on cinemas that still use film reels.
Where i can get new films super 8? Ebay? They work? What i should know before buy someting?
Thanks!
Found my family's Super 8 instamatic M24 from my childhood...WOW .!!!!! .... how can I tell if the cartridge inside it has film in that needs to be developed ???
it I'm afraid to open it
Hi Noah
Will you be doing a talk or maybe you have done on Raspberry super8 digital cartridge
Would Kodak allow it assuming they still hold patent on cartridge
Cheers Giovanni Capaldo
Perth Australia
Guy, I have in mind this as follow:
Kodak must to create a _Digital Camera_ like Arri or Black Magic, or Sony 4K and it name can be
*Kodak Super4*
*movie maker camera*
4 of 4K definition, same as any Sony camera 4K of market, special for all young people or family who want to make movies, and design can considerate that rect-oval upper piece (emulating the compartment for film reel) , but this piece should be the plegable screen viewer and speaker.
The size of camera must be not small, it sizes 9" * 6" * 3". People today wants a camera looks a real movie maker.
Plastic but painted in black mate crinkle for a metallic finishing aparience (like those old 8mm cameras).
What do you say, pretty guy?
Cristian, from 🇨🇱 Santiago, Chile.
This was a great video thanks for posting it. I am definitely interested in getting a Super 8 camera with film sometime.
Nice Kodak 16mm behind you. I have a similar model that is still chugging along as well.
Thank you very much for this importent info. I start an stop motion movie with kodak 200T. Let you know when I finish result. Best C...
I sorely miss Kodachrome (both Super 8 and 35mm slides). It was absolutely my favourite film.
Were the examples used filmed on expired film? In spite of the size of the film you can get very good images on super 8 and 8mm. But those just look terrible.
Where can I find 8mm film reels for my bolex paillard b8??
I have a super 8 camera with with a mic on it
Cool. Kinda wish they still made sound film.
I just bought a chinon and I was planning on shooting once I got some film how much does it usually cost to get the material digitalized?
It depends on the lab that you use to have it done. Can range from $0.40 to $0.60 per foot of film (sometimes higher as well). 50ft of film per super 8 cartridge.
Cheap AND affordable? Sign me up!
amazing thank uuu just bought my first super 8 camera ;)
You look like if Andrew Garfield and Jack Dorsey had a child.
amazing report,the only bad to shot on film is the price,is to high,and that is bad for us and for kodak,they have to fix that.
18 people recently bought Kodachrome
Where can I buy super 8 film. I’m having some trouble look for it :/
Check out Pro8mm:
www.pro8mm.com/?sca_ref=207073.rkNff54PoN
Or Film Photography Project:
filmphotographyproject.com
Hii, I just started with Super 8 film. I bought a Canon Auto Zoom 518, wich film do I have do buy if I wanted to digitized it? Or all films can be digitized?
All films can be digitally transferred!
Sound films S8 is available or just silent??
This absolutely has inspired me to pursue super 8. Great quarantine hobby
It's great to hear that Kodak will continue doing super 8 films but I have a question. Will they only do super 8 films or do they also do 8mm films for the older cameras?
Do cameras like the Nikon R8 handle these modern stocks’ ISO/ASA okay today?
It depends on which camera, as some don't expose quite as precisely with the 500iso film stock, but the Nikon R8 specifically is a good camera which can handle all the modern stocks!
Nice video, thanks! I just gotta point out that you can still buy expired Kodachrome, and it is worth it. It can be easily developed to a balck and white negative or a black and white positive, the second option of course beeing the one of choice and more convenient.
Very true! I’ve unfortunately seen a lot of people shooting it or buying old rolls of it without understanding how it can be used now in this post K14 world we live in.
@@AnalogResurgenceYeah I know that problem, some get it developed in C41 and wonder (just as the lab often does) why nothing comes out. Quite dumb actually. Although there is plenty of information on the internet...
@@v-g-z3689 I'll definitely put something together focused on the story of Kodachrome and where it is today!
@@AnalogResurgenceThat would be nice to see :)
Are you the actor from “She’s out of my league”?
Super 16 app the best emulation film ❤
This was so helpful thank u
REEL KOOL
Which camera and film would you recommend for a first time user?
It really depends on what features you're looking for! Really popular ones include the Canon 814, 1014 & the Nikon R10. Some cheaper options though are ones like the Yashica's LD-6, the Ricoh 800Z, and the Minolta D10/D12. This site gives such a comprehensive overview of many many different models as well: www.filmkorn.org/super8data/database/cameras_list/cameras_list.htm
Hi Noah
I just purchased a barely used Chinon 507sXL. Taking a trip in a couple weeks where the majority of the filming will be done outside in the sun. Which film should I shoot with for this trip?
50D color negative film is great for Bright outdoor stuff and friendly with most cameras too!
so the camera i own is a Bell & Howell/ Canon Cine Canonet 8 (1963) that has a reel instead of a cartridge. Does kodak also sell 8mm rolls????
Film Photography Project does!!
filmphotographystore.com/collections/movie-film
I got a super 8 camera a few weeks ago and it came with some cartridges that were unused but they’re like 40 years expired. Can I still use that film or should I get new cartridges?
I would really recommend getting some fresh film!
sooo- it's safe to assume that any kodak super 8 film i order today has no sound?
Yes, it’s all going to be silent film currently
cheap AND affordable!? corr
Hi there!
Really new to the Super8 world but have recently purchased a Canon Zoom 518 SV. If i were to use the Ektachrome film with it, could i use it on auto in daylight without it blowing out? Or is it best to switch to manual and get a meter reading, in which case how do you get a meter reading for a camera like this? Thanks so much.
I believe the 518 should be okay to auto-expose for the new Ektachrome 100iso film! super8wiki.com/index.php/Canon_518_SV_Autozoom
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Awesome job Noah!
Hi which film do you think is superior Pro8's or Kodak's?
Pro8’s film is Kodak film! They use their own branding on it and they offer certain film types in Super 8 that Kodak makes, but doesn’t put in Super 8 cartridges themselves. Color 250D and Black and White Double-x from Kodak are available in Super only through Pro8.
Hi Friend, I have a Chinon super 8 in my parents houses that I will rescue next summer. This camera is the one that works with sound super 8 film, so, maybe a silly question, but can a Kodachrome 40 regular cartridge fit into this camera?
Sound Super 8 cameras can still take non sound film cartridges! Sound super 8 film hasn't been made since the 1990s anyways. Also Kodachrome 40 can no longer be properly developed and hasn't been made in decades! Any Kodachrome film you find today is heavily expired and can only be developed by few places as black and white with very unexpected results. I suggest using modern fresh kind of film such as Kodak Vision3 50D instead of Kodachrome 40.
@@AnalogResurgence ah, brilliant! So happy to hear. Thanks so much!!
very helpful :)
@ 2:59 Did you know there were plans to make self developing super 8 cartridges. You just shoot and the chemistry would be in a bigger cartridge... video came along and nixed all of that progress...LOL
I've actually shot it!
ua-cam.com/video/MYMRtNKEhiQ/v-deo.html
@@AnalogResurgence HOLY CRAP thats amazing! I always thought it existed as some scientists and business guys and black and white photos in some old camera mags!!! LOL love it!
Amazing video!!! So useful. Thank you
Hi thank you so much for all your great videos question I like to shoot a wedding that Will Take Place in Side een Outside is het best to use 200t film with a filter? Is it Possible to use One film Why would you recommend 50D?
I would recommend 200T with the filter! 50D has a low light sensitivity so it's not good for inside
@@AnalogResurgence or maybe both 50d and 200t as I saw in your video I can swab the cardritger anytime 😃
hi i want to get started with this format and recently i'vge got a recorder and with it there was a new cartridge expired in 1976
the camera and film wss saved in a box in the darkness
what do you think?, should i give it a try?
by the way i thinks is a 25 iso film and has 15minutes of recording soo...
I would recommend purchasing fresh film if you really want reliable results! Expired stuff may not come out looking good and because there’s such high costs for developing and scanning it’s usually best to go with stuff that will be worth it. Also not all old stuff can be developed anymore.
50ft cartridges of super 8 will give you typically 3.5 minutes of footage (depending on the framerate of your camera)! Not 15 minutes. The package may say 15m, but that means 15 meters of film / 50ft of film!
@@AnalogResurgence oh so it's 15 meters🤣🤣 okay
yeah i think it is better to buy a fresh one but thanks tho
Hey, how do I know if a film has already been used? I bought a super 8 and it came with one, but I dont know if its already recorded
An exposed roll of super 8 film will say ‘Exposed’ on the film at the front of the cartridge!
But how can you watch a negative super 8 film on a projektor when it's actually negative when its developed
Super 8 negative film is intended to be digitally transferred really. In other formats you would have a print made from the negative in a darkroom printing process so you could have a positive to project. Unfortunately only one place in the world has the ability to do this for Super 8. andecfilm.de/en/e_start.htm
You’d have to send your negative to them if you want to project. Or shoot reversal Tri-X or Ektachrome instead.
@@AnalogResurgence Thank you for your Help. People like you help to keep the knowledge of analog cameras alive.
with the comeback of etkhachrome super 8 is worth it to develop super 8 at home using the e6 chemicals?
Super 8 home developing can be a lot of work for sure, but if you have some developing experience already then it would make it easier. The initial difficulty is the 50ft long rolls that you have to deal with, so you have to track down an older tank like a lomo tank and also have a system to dry it. It really depends on where you’re located, there are E6 kits for developing at home from companies like tetenal that allow you to have enough chemicals to do multiple rolls that in the long run would be cheaper then the cost of rolls at a lab. More work involved but it’s possible. Also depends on how much you plan to shoot.
I remember there was a huge difference in picture quality between K-12 (Kodachrome) and E-6 films in Super8 format. This is mostly due to very small picture, which is enlarged many times when projected. Quality of Kodachrome in Super8 format was better than consumer video cameras even in the beginning of 1990' s. This could not be said of E6 films. Especially Agfachrome, which was widely available in Europe, was terrible (grainy and with unnatural colors).
Where do you send your film cartridge for processing and digitalization?
I'm based in Toronto and use Niagara Custom Lab for my processing and scanning services: niagaracustomlab.baremetal.com/
Kodak also has a directory of labs to help you find resources in your area: www.kodak.com/motion/support/laboratories_directory/index.htm?blitz=off
Did you know: Kodak is the only private company in the world that has installed a nuclear reactor in one of their office buildings.
Developed Kodak Super-8 films keep their image quality unchanged for many decades. The Kodachrome II developed in 1965 still has the same color quality as in 1965. Super-8 is perfect for long-term archiving. While many digital media are no longer legible today, Kodak Super-8 always runs.
Hi! I don’t know if you’ll see this but I was wondering is film for super 8 cameras interchangeable? Meaning if I’m shooting in mid day and then shooting late in the day can I first use the Kodak 50D and then use the Kodak 500T and then go back to the same Kodak 50D? I’m very new to cameras so I’m sorry if this is a stupid question.
Great info! Although I was left with one question, does that mean that I have to shoot at 24fps in order to get it digitally transferred?
You can shoot any speed you want! Some labs may transfer it at 24fps and it will look fast or slow depending on what you shot it at, but you can manipulate the speed in an editing program.
Can you still digitise Kodak Ektachrome film. I’m wanting to digitise the film as well as play it back on a projector. More want to save it as digital but would of liked the option to have both. Any advice you can give will be very much appreciated, thank you
Hey there! I just got my camera and 2 films (KODAK 50D and 500T) Just wondering if anyone could explain to me which setting on my camera I should use when filming (daylight setting or tungsten setting) my camera has them both and I can’t seem to find online which setting works best for each film and what are the other factors that may play apart such as what kind of lighting situation I’m in etc.
Hey, I have an Old Arco Super Eight. Here I just can use rouned cartrigdes, i just find the square shaped one. Some1 may help me out ? Greetings
If needed I can send a picture , I tried to figure it out through google, but it seems im not capable off :x :d
The camera is probably not a Super 8 camera, but a Regular 8mm camera. I talk in detail about cameras like that here: ua-cam.com/video/VdU9u-uqCJE/v-deo.html
@@AnalogResurgence Ahh thank you so much !
Good stuff dude
@3:05 if you have sound cartridges just process the film and buy yourself a projector that has a audio player in the projector. They usually have a sound out. Good luck with the syncro after you digitise it.
I am finding your videos really interesting. I started off in Super 8 many years ago and always loved it. I even had a business transferring old 8mm and Super 8mm to VHS. While I enjoy watching this format, it is clear that modern video quality far surpasses those old film formats. There were some great Super 8 cameras like Beaulieu which had picture quality much better than most of the cameras from that time. Can you show some of those films if they’re available? I would love to see Super 8 used as a professional format but the quality was always iffy to me, considering I can shoot 4K on my phone.
Do you have any advice for shooting expired Super 8 film or is it kind of just luck of the draw?
This was so helpful, thank you!
Great video, but question - why might you choose reversal over non-reversal or vice versa?
Negative film is more flexible with exposure and is available in a wider ISO variety than reversal is. Color Reversal has higher contrast and saturation in comparison to Color negative film as well, so there are some different visual characteristics between the two. Reversal is also best for projecting if you want to do that with your film!
@@AnalogResurgence Thanks for the fast reply! Holy smokes, and this video isn't new! Anyway, I have so much to learn still.
Great video man! I must say though, it's not always a bad idea to buy Kodachrome from eBay, several times before I've bought Kodachrome 40 from eBay and I home processed the roll using Caffenol - C. Of course there's a risk of exposing the film to light, but that's what's exciting about doing it! It also feels so rewarding when you successfully process the film! It's definitely something that super 8 enthusiasts should do at some point in their lives!
I just bought a super 8 camera no Manual this might be dumb but how do I record?
Super 8 auto zoom 814
The manual for that camera can be found here!
www.manualslib.com/manual/554334/Canon-Auto-Zoom-814.html
Kodak Ektachrome is back... you can buy super 8 sound cassetes again! something about they will relase a new super 8 from kodak... im not totally sure.. but those cassetes also fits old super 8's
thank u
FANTASTIC!! A miner detail you left out of the reg 8mm ; You would have to take the film out of the camera and literally turn it around in a dark room or a closet to shoot the hole reel.
Who develops you super 8 film?
I frequently have work done by both Niagara Custom Lab in Toronto:
niagaracustomlab.baremetal.com/
And Pro8mm in California:
www.pro8mm.com?sca_ref=207073.rkNff54PoN
this guy legit
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are the 50D 200T and 500T tungsten?
200T and 500T are tungsten, 50D is daylight
Just bought a canon super 8, excited to start shooting, thanks for the vid
Super informative video, thank you!
Thank you