I love Super 8 despite its limitations. The only reason that keeps me from shooting more of it is the price of purchasing the cartridge, the developing process and scanning it. Paying about 100€ for about 3.5 minutes is just too expensive for me. That’s why I’m focusing more on VHS and Mini-DV even though these formats are still entirely different
This is the best Super-8 camera review (for any camera) I have ever seen. So organized, covers everything, and best of all it's loaded with actual Super-8 footage from the camera.
I love it when you make those Super 8 films. There is really nothing quite like it. I have my own project still in the planning phase, and seeing how the footage looks in your videos makes me super excited to start filming. But there is still a lot of preparation to be done. Still, thanks for the inspiring work!
Nikon has the odd habit of dipping briefly into a product segment and producing some of the best gear of all time. I use my R10 in macro mode most of the time to take advantage of the reflex viewfinder and leave wider compositions for 16mm and regular 8mm.
I have a R8 model. You really don't need a functional auto exposure to work with those model of cameras as the AE is broken on mine. Just use the manual exposure dial below the lens and your phone's light meter application.
Cool! I had a Nikon 8X Super Zoom (already old at the time) when I was a teen in the late 1970s -- and yeah, not very feature rich, but it did have a very good lens and felt solid (compared to the contemporary plastic Super 8 cameras at the time). If you are getting tired of your R10 -- you can send it my way!!!!!!
Thank you, great video(/Super8)! Yes that reminds me of my Bauer A508 which had pretty much the very same full feature set, including rewind and cross-fade. Was a pleasure to use for many years and many reels. The lens was never as sharp as my earlier Zeiss-Ikon camera for 1/4 the price. These days my favorite camera is a stereoscopic 3D Full-HD digital camera, 60 FPS, and it looks glorious with 3D-projector on a 260" white wall. The fun continues.
One trick I heard of for reverse motion filming is that you can rotate the camera upside down while filming, then in post. You cut that bit out, rotate it back to correct orientation and splice it into the edited reel. The film will then go in reverse. Though, as I type this out. I do realize that, that trick was used mainly on film that had perforations on each side. Like standard 16 and 35mm. Super8 being single perf on one side means it can't be rotated cleanly like that. But... I guess, if you rotate the film AND flop it so emulsion is on the other side, you can get reverse action with the caveat of the image being mirrored. Mag stripe soynd track wouldn't work, I guess. But noone sells film with mag tracks for filming. And if you put the mag track on in post, you can still do it on the reversed flopped footage. If course, this is all academic at this point. As we do post in digital form and it's just a matter of a right click menu setting in most NLE's. But IF you REALLY want to do a full 100 ft reel of slow mo reverse action that you can project in a super8 projector... You technically can... Providing you can accept the mirrored image 😂
Man, I picked up an R10 in about 2009 at Goodwill for about $5, and then gave it away in about 2011 because there wasn’t much in the way of Super8 resources back then. Wish I had hung on to it.
when you move your hand in front or change the light source does your auto exposure needle move? i put new batteries in and mine is now moving on auto exposure
I have my grandpa's R10. Had it serviced circa 1990 and never shot anything else with it and it's seizing up now. Hope to get it working again and find something worth shooting.
Many thanks for the class. God bless me today with a Nikon R10 and i’m starting to understand it by your explications👌. Regards from Santiago of Chile🇨🇱
Although I have yet to finish shooting the test roll for my Nikon R10 I have to agree that it is one of the most delightful prosumer-grade Super 8 cameras out there! I personally find the hefty steel frame more of a comfort than a nuisance since it leads to more stable handheld shooting as well as being more drop resistant than cheaper, plastic cameras. The only major complaint I have is that most of the screws are hidden under the leather patches, making repairs more difficult and time-consuming if the need arises. In regards to sound recording I was unaware they sold audio tape that amounted to a Super 8 film base coated with iron oxides. I had assumed there was an adapter cable with the flash-type connection on one end and a more typical audio output on the other, that way one could simply plug that into the mic input on a compact cassette deck and record audio alongside a sync pulse (should be relatively simple to Frankenstein together such a cable). The proprietary Super 8 tape recorder you showed might not be necessary to get at least some form of playback off of the tapes you have; it should be possible to play it on a regular reel-to-reel machine made for quarter-inch tape. This approach will almost definitely not play the recordings at the right speed and the arrangement of the sound heads probably aren't ideal for capturing the whole area of the tape, but it's an option. I hope this helps!
Hopefully whenever you review a video camera you do it like this, with almost all the shots with the camera itself but using modern youtube style presentation and sound quality
p.s- gotta find a compact steady solution to shooting with Super8 which is not a tripod, and could still help you get rid of those small jitters. Those to occur because of how small this format is, and how you could zoom in so much. Even if you're steady- shots don't come out so steady compared to on a full frame DSLR, say [just for comparison]. Thought of mounting it onto a Zacuto Enforcer [still not gonna get rid of all of those jitters and shakes]. Maybe only a shoulder rig with a counter weight could achieve that...
I'm a total newb to super8, i purchased a Nizo S128 and bought some pro8mm 200T film to test out while at a comic con next month. My question is how do you read the light meter in relationship to the film stock? With batteries in my camera, the meter does move depending on how much light is pointed toward camera, but I wonder if I should just set it manually since i'll have bright even lighting on the show floor...just don't know which number to lock it in on for the type of film I have.
Thanks for another great video. It’s seeing what the camera does as you’re telling us that really makes it special and your channel unique. Love the Canadian film you got. If you find more, you have to shoot it! Right I’m going to edit some film for the weekend now!
Great video Noah. I’d love an R10 one day but really don’t do nearly enough with my Eumig 128XL already to justify buying a second camera, let alone one as costly as the Nikon. Most drug habits are more affordable than dabbling with Super 8 😅
Nice video and it feels like you really love that camera ❤️ have you tried Nizo? I have a 6080 which has all of the features you mention in this video + 25p mode, which is why I picked it up ✌️it also is powered up by 6 AA rechargeable batteries, including the meter 😉 as far as I know many “newer” Nizo models don’t need the Mercury battery 😇
On your camera exposure lock. When you pull that knob out, it won’t turn to manually to adjust the f stop? Mine won’t do anything when pushed in, but pull it out an I can adjust the f stop manually
I just produced a short on my channel explaining *why* the Manual Override on the R10 Super may not be working for you. Hint: It's a stupid rubber spludger that's supposed to spin an internal wheel through friction alone. Not geared! What could go wrong?
I bought a Nikon R8 two days ago- for about $116, all the functions were all working and great! However, when I was testing it again, I realized the camera was smoking from the inside- is that something I should be concerned about?
I just bought an R8 myself and just in the process of figuring everything out but I am having trouble opening up the battery meter compartment, any recommendations?
@1:56 That battery compartment breaks I hear, as people who own the R10 always look for replacement part. Nikon are amazing, yet, they pull off these horrible battery door solutions that crumble and fall with the years. Same goes to the F100 unfortunately :\ Love the shape of the R10's gate, though...
Of course we had cell phones in the 90's, LOL. (The first cell phone is actually from 1973). Nokias were all the rage in the 90's. Just look at movies from the 90's and you can see. There's a cool Nokia 8110 in the first Matrix movie, for instance. But of course, we didn't have smartphones in the 90's.
@@andrew_nayes I know I meant to say smart phones. I was joking because the footage looks old and you can see her holding a iPhone. My uncle was a plumber and had one in the 1980s it was box shaped. Might have been the same one Danny Glover has in one of the Lethal Weapon.
Are you George Lucas? Cos you really look like George Lucas. If you are George Lucas; Hi, I really like some of your films. If you're not George Lucas; Sorry, my bad, it's just that you really look like George Lucas. If you're not George Lucas; Does your best pal look like Steven Speilberg? If so; Wow! That's crazy dude!! If not; Yeah, I figured as much, that would have been really weird. If you are George Lucas; congrats on all the money you have, it couldn't have happened to a more George-Lucas-looking guy. If you're not George Lucas; Sorry about that, easy come, easy go. Hey, you know what you should do? Go to a Star Wars meet-up thingy and tell everyone you're George Lucas, cos you totally look like George Lucas. Have you ever done that? I'd never stop doing that! If you are George Lucas, I have one question for you; Ewoks? If you're not George Lucas then please ignore my previous question. Sorry for all the questions but I'm high as f***.
Te sprzęt filmowy super 8 I inne mają się nijak do kamer cyfrowych nawet tych najtańszych. Nie mówiąc o kosztach taśmy, wywołania, scaningu. Sprzęt filmowy ma jedynie jedną wartość-sentymentalną! Piszę to jako praktyk kiedyś się tym bawiłem 8,super 8, 16 mm. Efekty pracy karkołomnie niskie podbite kosztami, nawet jeśli taśmy były wywoływane osobiście. Zabawa oczywiście znakomita ale i zabawa też musi mieć jakieś uzasadnienie ekonomiczne. Filmowałem i ruskimi kamerami i Krasnogorskami i Admirą 16A elektric skończyłem na Arriflexie 16 BL. I jak wspomniałem dzisiaj kamera z ProResem 10 bit bije jakością każdą analogową taśmę i to za darmo i natychmiast. Nigdy już nie wrócę do techniki analogowe. Na koniec nie widziałem jeszcze na YT dobrego filmu z realizowanego nałogowo tylko próbki z przebarwienia i nie doskonałe technicznie trzęsące się bo robione przeważnie z ręki. Pozdrawiam
I love Super 8 despite its limitations. The only reason that keeps me from shooting more of it is the price of purchasing the cartridge, the developing process and scanning it. Paying about 100€ for about 3.5 minutes is just too expensive for me.
That’s why I’m focusing more on VHS and Mini-DV even though these formats are still entirely different
Use Double Super8 and Fomapan 100?
@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112can you explain some things to me about double super 8?
I find it amazing how a camera and format that seems obsolete to modern media could have features that you’d never expect
This is the best Super-8 camera review (for any camera) I have ever seen. So organized, covers everything, and best of all it's loaded with actual Super-8 footage from the camera.
I love it when you make those Super 8 films. There is really nothing quite like it. I have my own project still in the planning phase, and seeing how the footage looks in your videos makes me super excited to start filming. But there is still a lot of preparation to be done. Still, thanks for the inspiring work!
Nikon has the odd habit of dipping briefly into a product segment and producing some of the best gear of all time. I use my R10 in macro mode most of the time to take advantage of the reflex viewfinder and leave wider compositions for 16mm and regular 8mm.
I have a R8 model. You really don't need a functional auto exposure to work with those model of cameras as the AE is broken on mine. Just use the manual exposure dial below the lens and your phone's light meter application.
That lap dissolve was nice, I’m gonna try that out when I get the camera!
I have one of those Super 8 sound recorders... from memory, I also have the crystal control too.
Cool! I had a Nikon 8X Super Zoom (already old at the time) when I was a teen in the late 1970s -- and yeah, not very feature rich, but it did have a very good lens and felt solid (compared to the contemporary plastic Super 8 cameras at the time). If you are getting tired of your R10 -- you can send it my way!!!!!!
Thank you, great video(/Super8)! Yes that reminds me of my Bauer A508 which had pretty much the very same full feature set, including rewind and cross-fade. Was a pleasure to use for many years and many reels. The lens was never as sharp as my earlier Zeiss-Ikon camera for 1/4 the price. These days my favorite camera is a stereoscopic 3D Full-HD digital camera, 60 FPS, and it looks glorious with 3D-projector on a 260" white wall. The fun continues.
One trick I heard of for reverse motion filming is that you can rotate the camera upside down while filming, then in post. You cut that bit out, rotate it back to correct orientation and splice it into the edited reel. The film will then go in reverse. Though, as I type this out. I do realize that, that trick was used mainly on film that had perforations on each side. Like standard 16 and 35mm. Super8 being single perf on one side means it can't be rotated cleanly like that. But... I guess, if you rotate the film AND flop it so emulsion is on the other side, you can get reverse action with the caveat of the image being mirrored. Mag stripe soynd track wouldn't work, I guess. But noone sells film with mag tracks for filming. And if you put the mag track on in post, you can still do it on the reversed flopped footage.
If course, this is all academic at this point. As we do post in digital form and it's just a matter of a right click menu setting in most NLE's. But IF you REALLY want to do a full 100 ft reel of slow mo reverse action that you can project in a super8 projector... You technically can... Providing you can accept the mirrored image 😂
Man, I picked up an R10 in about 2009 at Goodwill for about $5, and then gave it away in about 2011 because there wasn’t much in the way of Super8 resources back then.
Wish I had hung on to it.
Whaaat
Never give away anything.
I finally got one! The power zoom doesn't work but the auto exposure and shutter seems to work. Only way I can be sure is to shoot some footage!
when you move your hand in front or change the light source does your auto exposure needle move? i put new batteries in and mine is now moving on auto exposure
I have my grandpa's R10. Had it serviced circa 1990 and never shot anything else with it and it's seizing up now. Hope to get it working again and find something worth shooting.
It's cheaper just buy another camera.
That is awesome, I never had a Super 8 camera that sophisticated, but I was able to to stop motion animation way back in the 70s!!!
Many thanks for the class. God bless me today with a Nikon R10 and i’m starting to understand it by your explications👌. Regards from Santiago of Chile🇨🇱
I have a Nikon R8. Thanks for the video!
Great video! Nice Sync sound, love these cameras on the wish list for sure.
Although I have yet to finish shooting the test roll for my Nikon R10 I have to agree that it is one of the most delightful prosumer-grade Super 8 cameras out there! I personally find the hefty steel frame more of a comfort than a nuisance since it leads to more stable handheld shooting as well as being more drop resistant than cheaper, plastic cameras. The only major complaint I have is that most of the screws are hidden under the leather patches, making repairs more difficult and time-consuming if the need arises.
In regards to sound recording I was unaware they sold audio tape that amounted to a Super 8 film base coated with iron oxides. I had assumed there was an adapter cable with the flash-type connection on one end and a more typical audio output on the other, that way one could simply plug that into the mic input on a compact cassette deck and record audio alongside a sync pulse (should be relatively simple to Frankenstein together such a cable). The proprietary Super 8 tape recorder you showed might not be necessary to get at least some form of playback off of the tapes you have; it should be possible to play it on a regular reel-to-reel machine made for quarter-inch tape. This approach will almost definitely not play the recordings at the right speed and the arrangement of the sound heads probably aren't ideal for capturing the whole area of the tape, but it's an option. I hope this helps!
Hopefully whenever you review a video camera you do it like this, with almost all the shots with the camera itself but using modern youtube style presentation and sound quality
I love this video. Using Super 8 to make the video about Super 8 rocks 😎
Love Your video’s i myself am just starting out in film photogtaphy
Wicked cool! Great explanations!
p.s- gotta find a compact steady solution to shooting with Super8 which is not a tripod, and could still help you get rid of those small jitters.
Those to occur because of how small this format is, and how you could zoom in so much. Even if you're steady- shots don't come out so steady compared to on a full frame DSLR, say [just for comparison].
Thought of mounting it onto a Zacuto Enforcer [still not gonna get rid of all of those jitters and shakes]. Maybe only a shoulder rig with a counter weight could achieve that...
Awesome video! Always enjoy the content. 8mm and super 8 just has that look! Really well explained overview of the NIkon R10 :)
As always: you‘re the best!
wow, this camera is awesome!
I'm a total newb to super8, i purchased a Nizo S128 and bought some pro8mm 200T film to test out while at a comic con next month. My question is how do you read the light meter in relationship to the film stock? With batteries in my camera, the meter does move depending on how much light is pointed toward camera, but I wonder if I should just set it manually since i'll have bright even lighting on the show floor...just don't know which number to lock it in on for the type of film I have.
You should try double super 8. It's the best 8mm format and a lot of fun.
Thanks for another great video. It’s seeing what the camera does as you’re telling us that really makes it special and your channel unique. Love the Canadian film you got. If you find more, you have to shoot it! Right I’m going to edit some film for the weekend now!
Great video Noah. I’d love an R10 one day but really don’t do nearly enough with my Eumig 128XL already to justify buying a second camera, let alone one as costly as the Nikon. Most drug habits are more affordable than dabbling with Super 8 😅
Nothing can beat Optivaron 6-66. Toys.
I have one in mint condition. It is such a well built and flexible camera.
Nice video and it feels like you really love that camera ❤️ have you tried Nizo? I have a 6080 which has all of the features you mention in this video + 25p mode, which is why I picked it up ✌️it also is powered up by 6 AA rechargeable batteries, including the meter 😉 as far as I know many “newer” Nizo models don’t need the Mercury battery 😇
On your camera exposure lock. When you pull that knob out, it won’t turn to manually to adjust the f stop? Mine won’t do anything when pushed in, but pull it out an I can adjust the f stop manually
Jave you ever done any experimenting with upscaling and AI sharpening super 8 film? That would be such a good exprriment
I just produced a short on my channel explaining *why* the Manual Override on the R10 Super may not be working for you. Hint: It's a stupid rubber spludger that's supposed to spin an internal wheel through friction alone. Not geared! What could go wrong?
I bought a Nikon R8 two days ago- for about $116, all the functions were all working and great! However, when I was testing it again, I realized the camera was smoking from the inside- is that something I should be concerned about?
Definitely
what should i do? Is this something you've ever heard before?
I just bought an R8 myself and just in the process of figuring everything out but I am having trouble opening up the battery meter compartment, any recommendations?
Sometime I’ll get into Nikons but right now, I’m a Canon fanboy.
I have this camera. Let’s see how this goes.
I'd to love to own an Nikon R10 sometimes. In fact i would separate from my Beaulieu 4008 for it.
Can you only see through the view finder once film has been loaded? I literally just brought one of these home
You can see through it even when film is not loaded! There’s a small black switch beside the viewfinder that opens or closes it
@@AnalogResurgence oh amazing thank you! What exactly does the button look like, I’m trying to find it now
The the R10 can correctly read todays super 8 film stock? Like 50D at 50iso etc
Yes!
Going to buy one soon, can someone send me a link to purchase the correct film for this camera
So this is like the Nikon Version of the Canon 1014?
Do you have a suggestion for light meter batteries?
The Nikon R10 does not require light meter batteries
@1:56 That battery compartment breaks I hear, as people who own the R10 always look for replacement part.
Nikon are amazing, yet, they pull off these horrible battery door solutions that crumble and fall with the years. Same goes to the F100 unfortunately :\
Love the shape of the R10's gate, though...
What are your thoughts on the Canon 310XL?
Does anyone know if the lens of this camera can be removed?
Is it to mount and if so, what mount does it have?
The lens on this camera cannot be removed. Most Super 8 cameras do not have removable lenses.
They did not have cellphones in the 90's 4:49 LOL
Of course we had cell phones in the 90's, LOL. (The first cell phone is actually from 1973). Nokias were all the rage in the 90's. Just look at movies from the 90's and you can see. There's a cool Nokia 8110 in the first Matrix movie, for instance. But of course, we didn't have smartphones in the 90's.
@@andrew_nayes I know I meant to say smart phones. I was joking because the footage looks old and you can see her holding a iPhone. My uncle was a plumber and had one in the 1980s it was box shaped. Might have been the same one Danny Glover has in one of the Lethal Weapon.
I was looking at buying one of these on eBay until I saw the price.
Nothing is cheap these days.
nice! :)
Are you George Lucas? Cos you really look like George Lucas.
If you are George Lucas; Hi, I really like some of your films.
If you're not George Lucas; Sorry, my bad, it's just that you really look like George Lucas.
If you're not George Lucas; Does your best pal look like Steven Speilberg?
If so; Wow! That's crazy dude!!
If not; Yeah, I figured as much, that would have been really weird.
If you are George Lucas; congrats on all the money you have, it couldn't have happened to a more George-Lucas-looking guy.
If you're not George Lucas; Sorry about that, easy come, easy go.
Hey, you know what you should do? Go to a Star Wars meet-up thingy and tell everyone you're George Lucas, cos you totally look like George Lucas. Have you ever done that? I'd never stop doing that!
If you are George Lucas, I have one question for you;
Ewoks?
If you're not George Lucas then please ignore my previous question.
Sorry for all the questions but I'm high as f***.
Yes to all of these questions
FIlm is still better!
Te sprzęt filmowy super 8 I inne mają się nijak do kamer cyfrowych nawet tych najtańszych. Nie mówiąc o kosztach taśmy, wywołania, scaningu. Sprzęt filmowy ma jedynie jedną wartość-sentymentalną! Piszę to jako praktyk kiedyś się tym bawiłem 8,super 8, 16 mm. Efekty pracy karkołomnie niskie podbite kosztami, nawet jeśli taśmy były wywoływane osobiście. Zabawa oczywiście znakomita ale i zabawa też musi mieć jakieś uzasadnienie ekonomiczne. Filmowałem i ruskimi kamerami i Krasnogorskami i Admirą 16A elektric skończyłem na Arriflexie 16 BL. I jak wspomniałem dzisiaj kamera z ProResem 10 bit bije jakością każdą analogową taśmę i to za darmo i natychmiast. Nigdy już nie wrócę do techniki analogowe. Na koniec nie widziałem jeszcze na YT dobrego filmu z realizowanego nałogowo tylko próbki z przebarwienia i nie doskonałe technicznie trzęsące się bo robione przeważnie z ręki. Pozdrawiam