Top 10 Worst Classic Cards in Yugioh [Part 3: Legacy of Darkness and Labyrinth of Nightmare]

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  • @gawrshurab1035
    @gawrshurab1035 2 роки тому +588

    Cyclon Laser is so bad that when Gradius got summoned in the anime, our boy duke used Fairy Meteor smash and limiter removal instanted lmao

    • @13KuriMaster
      @13KuriMaster 2 роки тому +55

      Hang on... I think Noah Kaiba used Cyclone Laser and some other Gradius-specific support cards in his duel against Seto.

    • @josephinelilith3224
      @josephinelilith3224 2 роки тому +43

      Yeah, I remember thinking it was an anime-exclusive when Noah used it because of how bad it was, only to find out nope, it's real.

    • @Ghakimx
      @Ghakimx 2 роки тому

      Which anime and episode?

    • @hughielroberts6935
      @hughielroberts6935 2 роки тому +1

      Sorry what

    • @iigamy
      @iigamy 2 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @dancarter5775
    @dancarter5775 2 роки тому +134

    In casual play, my little brother used to play Nuvia the Wicked with his Meklords, so that the normal summon of Nuvia would destroy itself and then he could special summon the Meklords super easily.

    • @azuredragoon2054
      @azuredragoon2054 2 роки тому +34

      NGL, that's genius. I wonder if that'd be viable in Duel Links.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 2 роки тому +16

      Clever boy.

    • @emmasofia3622
      @emmasofia3622 2 роки тому +3

      Or Playful Possum too.

    • @dancarter5775
      @dancarter5775 2 роки тому +7

      @@emmasofia3622 nah man, Nuvia works turn one because it destroys itself, not at all reliant on your opponent.

    • @emmasofia3622
      @emmasofia3622 2 роки тому +3

      @@dancarter5775 Yeah, its better, but Possum comes back later. Each one has their advantage, although Nuvia is much more fast.

  • @Silyon487
    @Silyon487 2 роки тому +302

    I think a lot of the early cards were so monstrously bad because that early the makers of the game really thought rarity would matter. Most of the objectively better cards these terrible ones get compared to were Ultra-rare or Secret-Rare in their original releases: Raigeki, Mirror Force, Gemini Elf, so on. Some of them were only available from specific periphery products, like the early video games (Harpy's Feather Duster) or specific starter decks (Scapegoat in Joey's). Running with the idea that the majority of players would be casual and casual players wouldn't invest thousands into every side product for complete playsets would mean that card rarity is self-regulating.
    Obviously, things didn't go that way. But you can kinda see the logic if you squint really hard. Playing pauper formats in the early game would be a very weird experience.

    • @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
      @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 2 роки тому +23

      Imagine if Yu-Gi-Oh! invested into alternate formats and we still ran Pauper/"Heart of the Underdog" format today.

    • @nobodybroda3826
      @nobodybroda3826 2 роки тому +32

      That makes it even worse since its pretty much a gacha mechanic! Oh you drew this super rare, now your just better then all the other kids! Imagine yu-gi-oh from the earliest days where if you had blue eyes you just auto won since theres no tributes, at least in the manga, its pretty much that. If your right then that looks even worse then just being incompetent at making good cards!

    • @oneblacksun
      @oneblacksun 2 роки тому +36

      @@nobodybroda3826 It is Konami we're talking about, the gacha kings.

    • @nobodybroda3826
      @nobodybroda3826 2 роки тому +2

      @@oneblacksun you ain't wrong my friend. But we talking old Konami.

    • @oneblacksun
      @oneblacksun 2 роки тому +4

      @@nobodybroda3826 Was Konami ever a good company? When did that shift in public's perception happen?

  • @VieShaphiel
    @VieShaphiel 2 роки тому +206

    5:40 In the original manga, Jam Breeding Machine was comboed with Nightmare's Steelcage, because it was used by Marik and he's not someone who'd use Swords of Revealing Light

    • @christiancinnabars1402
      @christiancinnabars1402 2 роки тому +87

      Jam Breeding Machine also didn't floodgate you in the manga/anime, and just destroyed itself when you Normal Summoned a monster(you could even Special Summon monsters with no drawbacks). Making it infinitely more useful.

    • @StealthNinja4577
      @StealthNinja4577 2 роки тому +10

      Couldn't you still tribute set your monsters. Then next turn you flip summon them or they get flipped by your opponent. I think that they didn't want to upset the tribute mechanic by essentially lowering tribute costs by 1 with each copy of jam machine on the field

    • @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw
      @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw 2 роки тому +2

      @@StealthNinja4577 bassicly they had always made stuff up on the fly lol.

    • @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw
      @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw 2 роки тому +2

      @@christiancinnabars1402 The manga for Yugipedia just says "Once per turn "Jam Breeding Machine" produces 1 "Slime" with 500 ATK, but you cannot Summon other monsters while they are on the field."
      which isnt the same, but it doesnt matter anyway since the Anime is like what you described.

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 2 роки тому +4

      @@UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw It seems like in the manga, Marik could just choose to destroy Jam Breeding Machine when it wasn't useful anymore.

  • @raymondchen3815
    @raymondchen3815 2 роки тому +136

    You know, when I was starting the game, I thought the Super Robo fusions had to be insanely powerful in some way, because the way game logic worked in my mind was usually that monsters were more powerful the more inconvenient they were. I thought there might be some super big brain combo that somehow made them broken, but then as I started to understand the game more, I realized that there were just some cards that were terribly balanced.

    • @elgringo1893
      @elgringo1893 2 роки тому +7

      Summon with power bond, apply limiter removals x 3 and then beat down, that's about as good as it gets

    • @Gboy86ify
      @Gboy86ify Рік тому +8

      How silly of you to think Konami actually thinks when making cards.

    • @FA-nd9uk
      @FA-nd9uk Рік тому +1

      Just look at Tearlaments, Kashtira and Runnick, lol.

    • @Depressed_Spider
      @Depressed_Spider 7 місяців тому

      @@Gboy86ify The game was obviously designed by monkeys on typewriters. It's the only sensible explanation.

  • @misterbadguy7325
    @misterbadguy7325 2 роки тому +49

    Fun fact: Nuvia the Wicked appears in the opening to the Battle City arc of the anime, since it appeared during that arc in the manga. However, since it had been nerfed so hard in its real-game appearance (it was a vanilla monster in the manga), they had to rewrite the duel it appeared in to replace it with Rogue Doll. Consequently, in later episodes, Nuvia gets recolored to look like Worm Drake.

    • @nine_tails137
      @nine_tails137 Рік тому +4

      Ya know, I always wondered why Nuvia the Wicked only appeared in the Opening, and not in the actual show?

  • @DominatorLegend
    @DominatorLegend 2 роки тому +111

    Jam Defender would've been a decent card had Revival Jam kept his original anime effect instead of what it ended up with.

    • @Greil9
      @Greil9 2 роки тому +18

      Revival Jam would have been semi-OP with its anime effects since it was basically indestructible by any means.

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 2 роки тому +16

      that probally would get banned or nerf if it went with anime effect lol

    • @scantyer
      @scantyer 2 роки тому +2

      this can be said for so many cards..

    • @vahlen5281
      @vahlen5281 2 роки тому +1

      @TheRapper10000 Elaborate please.

    • @alinepiroutek8932
      @alinepiroutek8932 2 роки тому +1

      When I was a kid and saw the real card I was like "wtf, this is hell of trash"

  • @pahhw1533
    @pahhw1533 2 роки тому +91

    i remember when labyrinth of nightmare came out i went to a store and got 4 packs,
    i got gemini eleves, magic cylinder (the trap that negates an attack and deals dmg to the opponents lifepoints equal to the monsters attack) and mage power
    back then this was such a power boost for my deck

    • @valutaatoaofunknownelement197
      @valutaatoaofunknownelement197 2 роки тому +7

      That was both secrets and a great ultra for old school. You definitely deserved to win with such pulls back then.

    • @lucatronfietti5591
      @lucatronfietti5591 2 роки тому +18

      Did you just explain the effect of Magic Cylinder my dude

    • @Sulidaire
      @Sulidaire 2 роки тому +16

      @@lucatronfietti5591 Pot of greed allows you to draw 2 cards. Mirror force destroys all attack position monsters when your opponent declares an attack. Fissure makes Fish a sure thing

    • @lucatronfietti5591
      @lucatronfietti5591 2 роки тому +2

      @@Sulidaire also: Negate Attack negates all attacks

    • @slifersge
      @slifersge 2 роки тому +3

      @@Sulidaire what does gemini elf Do?? 😂

  • @selectivepontification8766
    @selectivepontification8766 2 роки тому +175

    The funniest part about comboing Cybernetic Zone with Super Robolady/yarou is that the combo doesn't even work. Because the tagout effect is Spell Speed 1 and Cybernetic Zone banishes until the End Phase, then destroys during your Standby Phase, you would never get the opportunity to tag out and just lose the monster.

    • @archwing3441
      @archwing3441 2 роки тому +36

      he explained the combo and I was like, pretty sure that doesn't work. Glad to see someone else catching that too.

    • @Arial55555
      @Arial55555 2 роки тому +24

      I was about to say, I swear I've NEVER heard any UA-camr correctly describe how that card's effect works.

    • @mikhailvarkovsky4150
      @mikhailvarkovsky4150 6 місяців тому

      Maybe when the fusion monster returns it's not considered a special summon, otherwise yeah, you can't use the tag team effect the same turn the monster is special summoned

  • @Carlitonsp1
    @Carlitonsp1 2 роки тому +37

    Reason for all the low attack or restrictions on mediocre attack: Gemini Elf, United we Stand, Mage Power were all high rarity.

    • @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw
      @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw 2 роки тому +5

      the word rarity is ruined now because of Master duel lol.

    • @MsNyara
      @MsNyara 2 роки тому +4

      I mean, there were low rarity cards with almost the same stats, so those low attack/restriction monsters still sucked on launch in TCG. 7 Colored Fish for example was common rarity (lowest one) in the 2nd pack in the game and a 1800 vanilla beatstick and came in starter packs too.
      The real reason is that OCG was released 4 years earlier, and many of those cards were released before the power creep of 2001-2002 over there, though many of them also sucked on launch too (mostly niche anime cards that did not even need to be nerfed), just not that badly. This can be experienced in some of the earliest YGO gameboy games around, where bad rituals and early fusions were actually kind of usable. The game rules were changed a couple of times early on which affected their viability, too.
      TCG product makers just decided they wanted to start with the same power level as current OCG back then, but also initially attempted to release all the cards in the game, but through just a few years they realized those overtly bad cards were hurting their products and decided to just not release the remaining, making the large majority of the gap on OCG that are not in TCG outside of newest ones.

  • @sirswagabadha4896
    @sirswagabadha4896 2 роки тому +202

    Have you considered a list of cards with misleading names? Recently got an old structure deck and was very annoyed by the fact that "Powered Tuner" is not actually a tuner. Then there's all those cards that have "dragon" in the name and aren't actually dragons

    • @apollyon1311
      @apollyon1311 2 роки тому +39

      Cyber DRAGONs: neither dragon nor cyberse, they are machine type.
      All the borrow DRAGONs: cyberse.
      Most of the albaz' DRAGONs aren't dragons,
      Mirrorjade: wyrm;
      Brigrand: beast;
      Sprind: machine;
      Masquerade: fiend.
      All Thunder Dragons: thunder.
      Brionac, DRAGON of the the ice barrier: sea-serpent.
      The winged DRAGON of Ra: Divine beast.
      Shadoll DRAGON: Spellcaster.

    • @joanaguayoplanell4912
      @joanaguayoplanell4912 2 роки тому +16

      Ally of justice SEARCHER.
      Effect: troll flip effect monsters by flipping them up with effect negated.

    • @louisng114
      @louisng114 2 роки тому +32

      Exodia the Forbidden One is not banned despite having "Forbidden" in its name.

    • @f1r3hunt3rz5
      @f1r3hunt3rz5 2 роки тому +9

      @@louisng114 I reckon the name is fitting because Exodia parts have been forbidden to only ONE copy of each

    • @Azatora
      @Azatora 2 роки тому +11

      Not really misleading name but Orca mega fortress of darkness is weirdly sea serpent type

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 2 роки тому +73

    0:12 Double snare can be reworked into something better:
    _Triple Snare_
    Quick play spell
    _When a trap card would be negated or destroyed, destroy one card on the field. If this set card is activated, you may add a trap card to your hand from your deck or GY after this effect resolves._

    • @pmurz4361
      @pmurz4361 2 роки тому +1

      This isn’t broken enough to see play hahah

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 2 роки тому +3

      @@pmurz4361
      The name is “Triple Snare”, so I’ll add a third effect
      _Triple Snare_
      Counter Trap
      _When a trap card or flip monster would be negated or destroyed, destroy one card on the field, and if you do, add 1 trap card or flip monster to your hand from your deck or GY after this effect resolves. Once per turn, You may discard this card from your hand; special summon/set flip monster, “Jinzo” monster or “Traptrix” monster, and set 1 trap, from your hand or GY. Once per turn, you may banish this card from your GY (Quick Effect); facedown cards you control cannot be destroyed by card effect until the end phase._
      Would THIS be better? I threw in support for flip monsters, collapsed the original effects together, tossed in a graveyard effect, and threw in a pinch of ironic support for Traptrix and Jinzo monsters. And also gave it a third effect to tie into the name better. Especially since you have three distinct ways to proc it.

    • @giftedfox4748
      @giftedfox4748 2 роки тому +1

      Even if you add in support for flip monsters, it won't be used with that in mind. May as well toss the flip support effect and just focus on trap protection. Also remove Jinzo from the support because it won't mix well with a Traptrix deck. Will also support a ruling in the card "You may discard this card from your hand; special summon/set an “Traptrix” monster, and set 1 trap, from your hand or GY expect for "Triple Snare". You can only activate each effect of "Triple Snare" once per turn"
      Would make it a good support card without it being overly broken and getting banned or limited.

    • @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw
      @UCu5gjzXvp21vqXJOFrSiJkBXuw 2 роки тому +1

      no one asked for a custom card lol

    • @leojamesquiambao1047
      @leojamesquiambao1047 2 роки тому +1

      Here's another version:
      Ultra Snare (Quick-play spell)
      Discard 1 card from your hand: destroy 1 card your opponent controls that has an effect that negates card effects and if you do, draw 1 card. Your opponent cannot activate card effects in response to this card's activation.

  • @MrShukaku1991
    @MrShukaku1991 2 роки тому +17

    If Chosen One was three cards from the deck, it'd probably become really good. Like, the "worst" outcome becomes "Set up 3 graveyard effects" while the best option becomes "Special Summon a Monster, set up 2 Spell graveyard effects"

  • @battlemasker2365
    @battlemasker2365 2 роки тому +35

    chosen one was made specifically to justify how an anime villain could summon Masked Beast Des Gardius. Jam Breeding Machine was used to summon Slifer the Sky Dragon, cause the downside was actually that you could summon, but it would destroy the card. Gotta love when bad cards were made just to explain some niche thing that happens in the anime/manga.

    • @JJJS-mu9hj
      @JJJS-mu9hj 2 роки тому

      Bro is it me or does not seem that bad?

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 2 роки тому +4

      Well, Masked Beast Des Guardius in the manga didn't have a summoning condition; it seems to have been an ordinary two-tribute monster. It was given that downside in the real game because it broke the 3000 Rule.

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501 2 роки тому +18

    #7 - At least in the anime, you could still summon other Slime monsters, and it would simply self-destruct if you summoned something else as opposed to completely locking you out.

  • @marsella527
    @marsella527 2 роки тому +14

    Let's give some love to our boy Exodia Necross. He was a ritual monster without being a ritual monster. The card use to summon it is a ritual card without being a ritual card. And can easily be destroy just be removing one of the Exodia pieces from the graveyard

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Рік тому

      Oof that's bad. It should have helped you get Exodia pieces into your hand rather than be a worse payoff

  • @tyelerhiggins300
    @tyelerhiggins300 2 роки тому +118

    I think this might be the earliest I've ever been to a video. I don't even play yugioh, but I still like your videos, especially ones about older cards.

    • @rossjohnstone4689
      @rossjohnstone4689 2 роки тому +1

      Same. I do play yu gi oh and it's fun to see old cards get talked about.

    • @espurr3496
      @espurr3496 2 роки тому +1

      Just by watching these you know more than a lot of people

    • @notsogreatsword1607
      @notsogreatsword1607 2 роки тому +1

      I was the same way until master duel came out. Its free and easy to learn. Its got a bot problem in ranked right now but thats not going to affect you too much early on. You'll have solo mode to learn the game and plenty of gems to open packs and build/craft a couple of decks. I have enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Give it a try! It was cool to hear about how powerful these cards are or how bad they are and then go experience it for myself.

    • @mcrow5427
      @mcrow5427 2 роки тому

      X2

    • @neotono5536
      @neotono5536 2 роки тому

      Same as most of the current decks are archetypes or go over my head since I haven't played since Duelling Network.went down.

  • @mariatelos
    @mariatelos 2 роки тому +30

    The only reason I remember Revival Jam was due to that episode in the Battle City arc where Yugi made his opponent deck out with it because Slifer kept destroying it with one of it's effects.

    • @pistincup352
      @pistincup352 2 роки тому +3

      Good times, Good Times

    • @ryanchase9332
      @ryanchase9332 2 роки тому +8

      Which required all sorts of not correct effect to work:
      Card of Safe Return draws 3 cards, and does so if the monster is summoned to either field
      Jam Defender works for both players
      Revival Jam has no lifepoint cost and comes back immediately
      Jam Breeding Machine can destroy itself to let you tribute summon
      All of the cheating and refreshingly not from Yugi.

    • @hyoroemongaming569
      @hyoroemongaming569 2 роки тому +1

      Try watch more deckbuilding challenge. It is staple in spell only deck

    • @Sigismund697
      @Sigismund697 Рік тому +6

      @@ryanchase9332 it wasn't really cheating, Takahashi just came up with insane effects for cards in order to set up specific plot points for tension/drama when Konami made the card they would notice how insanely poweful it would be and changed the effects to make it less powerful so imagine my shock when I read revival jam's effect and noticed it doesn't auto revive like in the anime and instead sucks
      Also sometimes effects were left as they were but you would inevitably notice just how absurd it actually was for them to work and realize characters just had plot magic armor like with Yugi/Joey and Mirage Knight

  • @thevintagevaluesexperience4302
    @thevintagevaluesexperience4302 2 роки тому +62

    Fengsheng Mirror isn't that bad. You get to look at your opponent's hand, so even you don't hit a spirit, at the very least it's a strictly better Inexperienced Spy.

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan 2 роки тому +8

      it's still pretty bad though

    • @Masahane
      @Masahane 2 роки тому +15

      I think the point of Fengsheng Mirror is that you can only really remove Spirits from the field with traps since they go back to your hand at the end of the turn. If there were more broken Spirit monsters back in the day that were deck staples, I can see it as a viable way to send them to the GY because after they're summoned once, you know they're in the hand.

    • @thevintagevaluesexperience4302
      @thevintagevaluesexperience4302 2 роки тому +15

      @@polocatfan it's nowhere near top 10 worst levels of bad, though. It's much better than Cyclone Laser and Double Snare. There are also much worse cards than Fengsheng Mirror from LON/LOD that didn't even make the list at all, and I can name 10 right now: Fire Sorcerer, Spirit Elimination, Spirit of the Breeze, Dreamsprite, Deal of Phantom, Nutrient Z, The Puppet Magic of Dark Ruler, Winged Minion, Shadow Tamer, and Dragon Manipulator. Fire Sorcerer, Spirit Elimination, and Nutrient Z are worse than any of the cards that made the top 10 aside from Chosen One.

    • @thevintagevaluesexperience4302
      @thevintagevaluesexperience4302 2 роки тому +5

      @@Masahane the point is that you get to see your opponent's hand with Fengsheng no matter what. That's very powerful.

    • @lightning2279
      @lightning2279 2 роки тому +4

      @@polocatfan It's mediocre at worst. Definately not deserving of a top 10 worst spot.

  • @nicocchi
    @nicocchi 2 роки тому +12

    Today I learn that Gradius is in Yu-Gi-Oh. That's amazing and makes me wonder (as someone who doesn't play YGO or even knows the rules or the game but is weirdly addicted to these videos) what other crossovers Konami shoved into the game.

    • @Black_Revue
      @Black_Revue 2 роки тому +6

      There are Castlevania, Space Manbow, Metal Gear, Wizard of OZ mixed with Star Wars and Dr. Who Cards just to name a few

    • @leojamesquiambao1047
      @leojamesquiambao1047 2 роки тому +3

      They got a ton from the Konami games alone. They could make their own list lol

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Рік тому +1

      There's a couple of Goemon characters I believe

  • @pietrobrattico9272
    @pietrobrattico9272 2 роки тому +47

    Honestly the super robo mosters are very interesting and could be a very cool idea to create an archetype of them

    • @RaineBans
      @RaineBans 2 роки тому +15

      i like how super robolady specifies robolady first and super roboyarou lists roboyarou first as fusion material. thats some fur hire shit

    • @lolicunny2
      @lolicunny2 2 роки тому +4

      Tbh, their schtick of tagging out between different monsters has been done better by Gladiator Beasts or even Sky Striker.

    • @awsomesaucekirby
      @awsomesaucekirby 2 роки тому +2

      imagine a glad beasts style spirit monster deck.

    • @HighPriestFuneral
      @HighPriestFuneral 2 роки тому +5

      @@lolicunny2 Well, isn't Sky Strikers just the same lady getting in a different mech? But yes, the Gladiator Beasts do seem to have fulfilled this ideal much better.

    • @formerlychuck1861
      @formerlychuck1861 2 роки тому +4

      Off top, field spell that lets you fuse from the deck and makes the effects quick, name replacements with effects, and then a card that while good in the deck, is actually super useful outside of it so every deck makes a way of using it. Yugioh.

  • @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy
    @The1AndOnlyGoldenboy 2 роки тому +5

    I've always liked Double Snare as a tech option, since technically speaking it can be used against ANY card that can negate Traps. It doesn't specify that it has to ONLY negate Traps, just that it can only be used on cards that DO negate Traps.
    So, it could be used on face-up cards that omni-negate too, like Borreload Savage Dragon, Gameciel, Herald, Toadally Awesome, etc. Forces them to use up a negation, and that could be the entire difference between a win and a loss. While it's definitely a niche card to use, it could definitely be useful.

  • @johndoe9343
    @johndoe9343 2 роки тому +7

    Not sure if someone mentioned this already, but Asura Priest and Tsukuyomi are popular Spirits in the format around the time Fengsheng Mirror was released in the TCG.

  • @strongside4565
    @strongside4565 Рік тому +1

    Everyone remembers the Jam Defender combo from the anime. That version was an insane card since it just spawned a Revival Jam to block every attack.

  • @otakotako2601
    @otakotako2601 2 роки тому +5

    seeing fairy guardian make me think of a funny top 10
    top 10 card that could be searched by arsenal summoner

  • @juksleo6257
    @juksleo6257 2 роки тому +20

    Looking in retrospective, Yata Garasu was probably the first ever garnet in the game cause if you hard drew it and then used CED's effect you wouldn't be able to recover it from the GY essentially killing the lock

    • @ryanchase9332
      @ryanchase9332 2 роки тому +9

      It's not a true Garnet because with cards like Delinquent Duo, Forceful Sentry, Confiscation and Don Zaloog being fairly common, you might get the lock even without detonating CED.

  • @JRizzle8921
    @JRizzle8921 2 роки тому +6

    What’s funny is both Nuvia and Chosen One were regarded as bad cards in their featured duel, Yugi&Kaiba vs Mask of Light/Lumeon&Mask of Darkness/Umbara as when Darkness played Nuvia Kaiba mocked him for playing the card even though it had no(or no know anyway) effect and when Light drew Chosen One he knew it wasn’t very good and was nervous about playing it

  • @thechecker111
    @thechecker111 2 роки тому +4

    I love your videos about old cards! I stopped playing around 2010. The videos about the new sets and new game mechanics are also super interesting but the videos about old cards also bring back nostalgia.

  • @nine_tails137
    @nine_tails137 2 роки тому +8

    It's kind of sad that 2 of these cards belong to Marik, and were much more useful in the anime than the actual TCG.
    Also, I'm still pissed over Nuvia the Wicked having such a terrible effect.

  • @MrNova_404
    @MrNova_404 2 роки тому +5

    Ya know, Sky Strikers are sort of like the modern expanded equivalent to Super Roboyarou and Super Robolady by tagging out into different Link Monsters that are used to control the opponent's plays by switching from the -3 of Fusion Summoning to going card neutral with Link-1s.

  • @jenerix5257
    @jenerix5257 2 роки тому +8

    I'm pretty sure you're wrong about Cybernetic Zone. They're returned in the end phase then destroyed in the standby phase. They won't see main phase 1, let alone 2.

  • @blazejecar
    @blazejecar 2 роки тому +7

    the jam cards are meant for the anime effect of revival jam, which revived itself during the battle phase for no cost. The balancing of the support cards was centred around that in the show, but in the real game they thought to keep all the nerfs on the support cards but nerf revival jam ultra hard because I assume they didn't think there were enough alternatives in the game to destroy revival jam instead of battling it/sending it to the graveyard

    • @SCH292
      @SCH292 2 роки тому +2

      I say..they should of allow us to keep bringing back Revival Jam as long as we have the life points to keep paying the 1000 cost.
      So..in a nut shell..I attack and destroyed your Revival Jam at the end of the damage calculation you can choose to pay 1000 life points to special summon your Jam back to your side of the field. As long as you got life points you can keep doing it. Lol.

    • @blazejecar
      @blazejecar 2 роки тому

      @@SCH292 honestly, these days even the anime effect would've made no difference. TONS of cards could get revival jam off the field with any kind of removal, banishing, tributing etc. There is no way it'd be broken even without the life point cost...unless there is some infinite loop I'm not aware of

    • @DominusZeikyu
      @DominusZeikyu 2 роки тому

      @@blazejecar Well, the exact loop Yugi did against Strings. Slifer's effect and revival Jam's effects would just keep looping.

    • @blazejecar
      @blazejecar 2 роки тому

      @@DominusZeikyu the effect is still a choice in the actual game, you don't HAVE to revive it

  • @PineappleLiar
    @PineappleLiar 2 роки тому +8

    At least Fengsheng Mirror has the chance to preemptively stop a Yatalock

    • @phiefer3
      @phiefer3 2 роки тому +1

      eh, not really. If yata was in your opponent's hand, then chances are they weren't pulling off the lock anyways, since it meant that they couldn't use CED to clear your field/hand to keep you locked down.

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 2 роки тому +3

    It's wild how many of these are cards from the manga that were nerfed to the point of almost being unrecognizable, especially in Return of the Doomed's case.

  • @totenkopf8814
    @totenkopf8814 Рік тому +2

    I really like the concept of chosen one. Personally i would like to see a retrain that ignores summoning conditions and is more playable. Would be very cool.

  • @totoru4ever
    @totoru4ever 2 роки тому +5

    Jam breeding machine was not that bad on defense decks to bring out labyrinth wall, total defense shogun etc, and was not a big loss during heavy storm. The big problem with it really was that it summoned tokens in attack position in the standby phase, it would've been much better if it would've got a counter at each standby phase which you could use to summon the tokens when you want.

  • @gyeongchankim5423
    @gyeongchankim5423 2 роки тому +2

    It might be little odd, but I feel very nostalgic by seeing these terrible card list from the early days of the yugioh. It remids of the old days when I bought some card packs, read cards' effects and just dump most of them recognizing that they are mostly useless.

  • @MagikBased
    @MagikBased 2 роки тому +1

    I won a local way back with a jam breeding machine deck using wetlands and token stampede. Token stampede being particularly great for the immunity from battle destruction. The rest of the deck was just 1 for 1 removal like smashing ground, MST, and solemn judgment. The advantage you accrue every turn getting beatsticks won me that tournament.

  • @Funami2006
    @Funami2006 2 роки тому +2

    I actually used to play Fairy Guardian, but not for its effect. I used it with Buster Rancher, which can only be equipped to a monster with 1000 or less atk. I would then add Black Pendant & Cestus of Diagla, and have a weirdly jacked fairy to swing for potentially 4500 with. I was a kid back then so I don’t even know if that was a legal combo.

  • @MasterArchfiend
    @MasterArchfiend 2 роки тому +12

    I know they are bad, but I always liked the Super Robo monsters and hope that they get made into an archetype seeing as Konami can be almost random with those choices these days.
    A Hero Emerges, a normal battle trap, is better than Chosen One and that says quite a bit about how bad it is. Even though I don’t play competitive, I play a lot of the Yugioh video games and A Hero Emerges has saved my skin a surprising number of times while I have never gotten Chosen One to work even once. It’s not even that useful to set up GY effects.

    • @lightning2279
      @lightning2279 2 роки тому

      By old school standards I would argue a hero emerges is actually a decent card. It's not that hard to set up your hand to get a free special summon off of it.

    • @MasterArchfiend
      @MasterArchfiend 2 роки тому

      @@lightning2279 True, but that takes more set up than a Sakuretsu Armor and there’s a chance your opponent can still beat over whatever you summoned or take it out with a spell card unless it is early enough in the game for that beat stick they picked to be a threat. Granted, that has happened to me a few times and it is fun in older games.

  • @PunishedPrince
    @PunishedPrince 2 роки тому +6

    For #6 nuvia the wicked yes it’s a bad card but not really applicable to compare it the Gemini elf. Since Gemini elf was a secret rare it’s not like too many were busting it out on the playground

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames 2 роки тому +1

    I think Cyclon Laser came out during that era that Konami started putting archetypes in the game based around it's own franchises, so Gradius was supposed to be an archetype based around using equip cards to boost up the ship just like in the Gradius arcade game
    They had references to their other games like a Goemon archetype and the card Tactical Espionage Expert (a reference to MGS before Spyrals)

  • @atlys258
    @atlys258 2 роки тому +2

    Man I remember my friends and I being so mad that Jam Breeding didn't let you summon, one of us even tried to make it work w/Rations 🤣

  • @LomasneyAaron
    @LomasneyAaron 2 роки тому +2

    Ironically about Chosen One, is that if your opponent can meet the activation requirements, you can use it in combination with Mystical Refpanel, because discarding cards is an effect that applies to a player.

  • @White0ni
    @White0ni 2 роки тому +5

    Jam Breeding Machine doesn't stop you from setting monsters. I know this because I played schoolyard yugioh back in the day and that card was actually pretty nasty in that setting.

    • @CarmsCelestia
      @CarmsCelestia 2 роки тому +2

      It also literally says on the card "You can't summon monsters [...] (but you can still set)"

    • @Zero_Chaos
      @Zero_Chaos 2 роки тому +4

      Right, you can actually tribute the tokens to set high level monsters like Guardian Sphinx. It's not as bad as he's making it out to be

    • @zad_rasera
      @zad_rasera 2 роки тому

      @@Zero_Chaos Assuming your opponent actually attacks the card since you can't Flip Summon it.

  • @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
    @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 2 роки тому +6

    Given you mentioned Fengsheng Mirror, you probably should mention why Spirit Monsters failed as an archetype/gimmick.
    Also, Nuvia the Wicked *wasn't* a bad monster in the Yu-Gi-Oh! manga, where it was a vanilla monster with 2000 ATK, but because it had 2000 ATK, they decided to punish players who wanted to use it. Funnily, there was a monster in the recent Go Rush anime that calls back to it called Nuvia the Wicked Mischief Maker.

    • @emmasofia3622
      @emmasofia3622 2 роки тому +2

      Oh yeah, Rush Duel shows a lot of nice new versions of classic monsters and monsters from the new era.

    • @burner555
      @burner555 Рік тому

      Search "Failed mechanics in Yugioh", he has a video about Spirit monsters

  • @007kingifrit
    @007kingifrit 2 роки тому +4

    i actually have a misprint of fengsheng mirror that is printed half purple like a trap

  • @Nerobyrne
    @Nerobyrne 2 роки тому +1

    Man I remember watching the show and then piercing hit the field in the duel they showed, right around the time that it was introduced in the TCG.
    It was a connection between fiction and real world that I thought was pretty cool back then.
    Except we all called it "the fairy meteor crush effect", because konami was deathly afraid of key words back then.

  • @antoniocurcio693
    @antoniocurcio693 2 роки тому +8

    I suppose Chosen One would be good for getting cards with GY effects into the GY, though there are many, many, many better ways to do that.

    • @elgringo1893
      @elgringo1893 2 роки тому

      Magical hats is a far better way of doing that. I magical hat spell and trap cards with floating effects such as the "Ojama magic trick" card for Ojama decks or even Geartown.

  • @ThiagoFer93
    @ThiagoFer93 2 роки тому +1

    I'm really liking this worst classic cards series. There are so many ridiculous bad cards that I've never heard of, it's pretty funny and interesting.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 роки тому +1

    Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @kringe700
    @kringe700 2 роки тому +6

    Damn, looking at all of these old cards really shows how far the power level of YGO has become. Now we have a plothera of level 4 2000+ ATK monsters with little to no negative effects and a counter card that can counter a lot of stuff.

  • @TheItalianoAssassino
    @TheItalianoAssassino 2 роки тому +1

    I still have a soft spot for most of these cards, because most of those artworks shaped my early childhood. 😍😍

  • @cartervaill3043
    @cartervaill3043 2 роки тому +2

    Love the videos, you've really helped me bring together my decks

  • @Jason-we7vf
    @Jason-we7vf 2 роки тому +1

    Really enjoying your videos--I recently discovered the channel when a friend got me to revisit the game after leaving it years ago. Any chance for a top 10 Galaxy/Photon cards list in the future? That was an archetype I enjoyed back in the day and would be curious to see how it may have changed. Keep up the great work!

  • @HouYi-b6g
    @HouYi-b6g Рік тому +1

    the thing with Choosen One is that i think it was intented to have the bonus of ignoring summoning conditions since in the anime it brought out a ritual monster without ritual summoning it. if that were the case i could imagine it could have been used in Sacred Beasts Decks or Assult mode decks.

  • @Solanne11
    @Solanne11 2 роки тому +1

    I’d love to see Jam Breeding Machine support; maybe some Extra Deck monsters with “Slime Token” in its name, or some sort of effect to get it on the field before your standby

  • @dragonexpert8323
    @dragonexpert8323 2 роки тому +2

    I think the reason Nuvia got 2 negative effects is that it was only a regular rare card at the time. Gemini Elf was a secret rare. Typically cards that are rarer have less drawbacks.

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 2 роки тому +2

      Actually, funnily, it was inverted in Japan. Gemini Elf was originally released as a Common, while Nuvia was an Ultra Rare.

  • @ultrajonny64
    @ultrajonny64 2 роки тому +2

    Top 10 cards to use with Lair of Darkness
    Top 10 equip cards
    Top 10 cards to tribute your opponent's monster(s)

  • @brandol75
    @brandol75 2 роки тому +2

    in order for chosen one to be useful, you need the monster and spell/traps you choose to have an effect in gy. Monster effects that activate in gy and not be destroyed by battle where around the middle of 5d's and spell/traps that have effects in gy started to be around 3-4 years after. Today decks, have a total of around 3-4 cards such spell/traps, mostly of their archetype. Conclusions on you.

  • @Hugelag
    @Hugelag 2 роки тому +2

    I have some list suggestions of you don't mind:
    Best Story cards part 2
    Top 10 cards that show other cards
    Top 10 cards that aren't in Master Duel
    Top 10 stall cards.
    Top 10 generic pendulum cards.
    Top 10 "trap" cards. (Cards that seem good at first glance but aren't really that good.)
    Top 10 parody cards. (Like how Weed Out parodies Return from the Different Dimension.)
    Top 10 special conditions in the games.
    More Rescue Rabbit, please.

  • @polocatfan
    @polocatfan 2 роки тому +2

    I genuinely hope roboyaru and robolady get support. They're so close to being a fun deck.

  • @BloodfelX
    @BloodfelX 2 роки тому +1

    I could see Chosen One being a play in a Trickstar, Phantom Knights or similar deck; send to the grave 3 cards in your hand that you really want in the grave, with a chance to special summon the monster out of those 3.
    ...I'm saying its a play. Not by any means a good play, especially when if you just wanted to send cards from your hand to the grave cards like Card Destruction could send those 3 cards to the grave then allow you to draw 3 cards.

  • @cardinalofclubs8471
    @cardinalofclubs8471 2 роки тому +1

    Jam breeding machine, during the time, could be used to produce tribute fodder (it does not lock you out of setting cards)

  • @rossjohnstone4689
    @rossjohnstone4689 2 роки тому +1

    I remember getting chosen one and Nuvia in the same labyrinth of nightmare pack
    I think that's when I first learned there were some really bsd cards as labyrinth was my first introduction to yu gi oh.

  • @metaboss7567
    @metaboss7567 2 роки тому

    I'm unaware if anyone else suggested this, but I've had an idea for the next time you're willing to do a Duel Links top 10. The Top 10 cards you can (currently) only use through Skills (Blue Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon, Number 90: Galaxy-Eyes Photon Lord, Phantom Knights' Fog Blade, etc.).

  • @NICOCLASH
    @NICOCLASH 2 роки тому +1

    Chosen one is the best card, it's a Infernity card not by name, but by everything else. Wow you can discard 4 cards or even better 1/3 of the times you can still discard 3 card AND summon the top-decked Infernity archfiend to start the combo with. What a godly piece of legacy support we have for Infernity

  • @Hugelag
    @Hugelag 2 роки тому +3

    There's a jar of generosity now? I suppose it was inevitable, but dang that's hilarious.

    • @thatman666
      @thatman666 2 роки тому +2

      Now waiting on Jar of Duality, Jar of Desires.

  • @Silver_Chivalry
    @Silver_Chivalry 2 роки тому +1

    I'd like to see a retrain of Gradius with the effects of Cyclon Laser built in. It still wouldn't be all that good, but it would be a straight upgrade.

  • @pretends2know
    @pretends2know 2 роки тому

    Jam Breeding Machine was a key part of a rogue deck as a win condition for a deck that basically floodgated and destroyed the field as much as possible, then won with the Jam tokens boosted by Wetlands.

  • @J3Puffin
    @J3Puffin 2 роки тому +1

    Someone has never lost to Jam Breeding Machine turbo and it shows

  • @royaldankness77
    @royaldankness77 2 роки тому

    Love the old card reviews man keep it up

  • @IC-23
    @IC-23 2 роки тому

    I can see return of the doomed being a nice side deck option in skill Servants in a scenario where you go second you normal summon Baking/Prince/Princess crash them into a a bigger monster and it's especially decent on wight baking since you get the sent to gy effect but it ends up back in your hand to protect King.
    At most it's a one of but it has some use

  • @The_shadow_who_laughs
    @The_shadow_who_laughs 2 роки тому +1

    House of adhesive tape it's a trap card in the same vein as trap hole, but it only destroys a monster with 500 or less attack. If I remember correctly, it even only went off if it was normal or flip summoned. So whoop-dee-doo, you can kill Maneater bug and kuriboh. If you're really lucky, maybe snipe petite mop LOL

  • @Rainbow-Dash
    @Rainbow-Dash 2 роки тому +1

    Fengsheng Mirror, is a card I've never seen before and I played so much YGO in this era
    It kinda looks like an alot more recent card somehow

  • @kappapauldin9809
    @kappapauldin9809 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe you could play Return of the Doomed in Dark World, to recycle your Ceruli after crashing into it, and the discard is also kind of an advantage.

  • @Krokodilius
    @Krokodilius 2 роки тому +1

    double snare...if only i had known about you in 2002.

  • @Flanders989
    @Flanders989 2 роки тому

    I used to play Jam Breeding Machine with Wetlands and Token Stampede, some equip cards and traps like cylinder and mirror force. Super annoying lol.

  • @kishinasura2240
    @kishinasura2240 9 місяців тому

    I remember using this exact thing with gradius, cyclon laster and both mage power and united we stand. Gotta say it makes you feel good when you win like that! 😂

  • @STEPHxCA
    @STEPHxCA 2 роки тому +1

    My favorite classic card is the Cyber Commander! It has 750 attack points and does nothing :D

  • @UltimatePhantasm
    @UltimatePhantasm 2 роки тому

    that one puppet guy: *activates Revival Jam/Jam Breeding Machine/Infinte hand limit thingie combo*
    Slifer the Executive Producer: "Its free real estate"

  • @Ghoste616
    @Ghoste616 2 роки тому

    I remember seeing Jam Breeding Machine in the anime and thinking it was so cool! I felt betrayed when I realized the real-life version was so bad that it was unusable :(

  • @yukijunanago6655
    @yukijunanago6655 2 роки тому +1

    Finally a video from our favourite Vtuber

  • @burnum
    @burnum 2 роки тому

    Double Snare can be used against more cards rather than just Jinzo. Like Royal Decree or Sorcerer of Darkness, for example.
    There are monsters beyond Sangan/Witch of the Black Forest that benefit from Return of the Doomed. Helpoemer is one such card, and probably one of the best examples.

  • @swat90000
    @swat90000 2 роки тому

    OK, so I had a shower thought for a list the other day, well multiple but still
    Top 10 field spells that do "everything" (or just 3+ effects) (poster child/inspiration for this being Domain of the True Monarchs)
    Top 10 best/worst attribute cycles (groups that have similar/thematically related cards for each attribute, like the Charmers)
    And as a link to that, 10 good cards in bad cycles/bad cards in good cycles (like how Stormwinds is the only barrier statue that really sees play)

  • @callenbyrne1310
    @callenbyrne1310 2 роки тому

    I had Chosen One is so many of my decks when I was a kid. It was a stable. We thought it was the most thrilling thing trying to figure out which card was the monster. More intense than any game of poker I've ever seen.

  • @0f128
    @0f128 2 роки тому +2

    I always liked the super robo lady/yarou cards when I was a kid thought they were cool

  • @Doceli-dg3cn
    @Doceli-dg3cn 2 роки тому

    6:23 ngl the way he said that so fast all in one sentence 🤣🤣

  • @mrmampmamp
    @mrmampmamp 2 роки тому +2

    Nuvia The Wicked was broken in the GBA games, especially when battling the Ghouls.

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 2 роки тому +3

      was it i don’t remember!??
      I remember it being a Normal vanilla monster with 2000 Atk pts

    • @mrmampmamp
      @mrmampmamp 2 роки тому +2

      @@jayclearmen411 Yeah, that's what made it broken in those particular battles. You could normal summon it and, it's attack increased to 2600 in the darkness.

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 2 роки тому +3

      @@mrmampmamp ah yes the field spells were broken back then i remember summoning a blues eyes with mountainnon the field and it’s attack grew to like 3950 or something it was Nuts..

    • @mrmampmamp
      @mrmampmamp 2 роки тому +1

      @@jayclearmen411 Right

  • @q306005
    @q306005 10 місяців тому

    Can't believe I'm being reminded of how shite my Gradius equipment deck was back in the day. I made a whole deck centered around equipping Gradius with a ton of cards and being able to bulldoze even berry monsters like Blue Eyes. I never got to actually play with the deck, but clearly it would not have been a good time.

  • @leonardolim8976
    @leonardolim8976 2 роки тому

    Back in the day where revival jam+jam defender+card of safe return+slifer+infinite cards are a thing. Ahh old days anime

  • @Acidonia150reborn
    @Acidonia150reborn 2 роки тому

    Jam Breeding Machine with Wetlands and Token Stampede on the Field is pretty Fun though.

  • @Griever49
    @Griever49 2 роки тому +1

    So, of all of the cards here, I have seen at least once... except fairy guardian... I had no idea that card existed

    • @michaelnelson1127
      @michaelnelson1127 2 роки тому

      Similar for me, except I haven’t seen Return of the Doomed before, and maybe Fengsheng Mirror.

  • @GroundThing
    @GroundThing 2 роки тому

    I feel like Jam breeding machine could be good if there were two changes to the card/card pool. The first of which being if it allowed flip summoning. That way, you could hypothetically still play other monsters, they'd just be slower and likely more vulnerable, and 2) if there were more Tribute summonable monsters that you'd want to (or at least not mind) setting, since unlike Scapegoat, the other way to get a lot of tokens in this era, there's no restriction on using slime tokens for tributes. It would still be like a worse treeborn frog, but I feel that still would potentially be worth it.

  • @Sammechu
    @Sammechu 2 роки тому

    Love this going through the ages thing these videos got going on
    Think you'd do a best of of them?

  • @Ronald_Ruck
    @Ronald_Ruck 2 роки тому +3

    At least back then you can quickly tell if a card is good or not. Today you have to read a whole novel printed in the smallest font ever on each card and kind of puzzle if these effects are any good or not.

  • @Shelb-qb2zb
    @Shelb-qb2zb 6 місяців тому

    When I was a kid I was obsessed with jam tokens, and tokens in ygo in general. I tried so so hard to make every token generating card I owned into a threat, including my treasured two jam generators! I don't think those decks won a single game...

  • @Therake2602
    @Therake2602 2 роки тому

    return of the doomed was like my recycle flip monster together to monster resurrect with 3 sinister serpent before.
    6 times tonget ciber jar, fiber jar or another flip monster for destroy deck of my opponent like worn or metamorphosis jar together in the past.
    Depend because i used to use it too with Monster special summon effect for destroy by battle like mistic tomato or giant rat, etc and use them again to summon element monst which boost attack of element specific monster or bring ciber jar or fiber jar and with book of moon for flip when oponent attack again to it .

  • @DrunkTigerGrill
    @DrunkTigerGrill 2 роки тому +2

    God Super Roboyarou/lady are so close to being a fun gimmicky deck
    Just make them special summon each other during battle and any number of times
    Boom gimmicky protection, OTK potential with the caviat being that you are running terrible garnets

  • @derpyquagsire6678
    @derpyquagsire6678 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine if chosen one worked from the deck but instead of send them to GY it banished them face-down