Discovered not long ago that the composer for the series, Johnny Douglas, lived into his 80's and had a house not far from where i went to college. If only I'd known at the time! The score for D & D is outstanding.
thank you we never knew who he was another great composer ahead of his time almost same vein as Basil Paldoris, Jerry Goldsmith, John williams , Trevor Jones, Howard Shore James Horner and Hanz Zimmer thanks again
This episode was have been meant to link in with another ... At the end . Corlocke changes his form due to being good. I think its a hint at what lies ahead for Venger if he became good. Dungeon master cares and knows alot about Corlocke very well . maybe he too was one of dungeon masters children or friend who fell into evils hands. This really left the episode with a cliff hanger..
What happens to Corlocke at the very end, while he's standing with DungeonMaster? Does he get "healed"/transformed from a mis-shapen man into a healthier, more handsome one?
I love it, when Venger calls people a "Fool." We got a double dose of Fool, in this episode! I wish we had as much Gemini, in Thundar The Barbarian, as we do Venger, in Dungeons & Dragons.
Too bad they didn't have that gizmo when the Nameless One showed up. How embarrassing for him, to be clobbered by something that looked like it came out of a bubblegum machine or Liberace's sock drawer.
Great episode and one of my favorites! Eric and Lorn really are intriguingly similar in terms of attitude. In another life they could have been brothers no doubt. At it heart, it is a reminder that great power has grave prices and in the end is meaningless compared to not having what really matters.
Actually, it's nor surprising. The animation for this cartoon franchise was done by a Japanese company. Lorn definitely looks anime-ish. He looks like a younger Jayce from the Wheeled Warriors cartoon. In fact, Eric looks quite Asian as well. I've always wondered if Eric is supposed to portray a spoilt Asian rich kid.
Every character got to have a love interest in a specific episode and the fact thar Erick only have an arranged wedding with a Queen that turns out to be a demon and this .... makes me think he might be . . . you know
I ship: Hank & Sheila, Bobby & Terry (Girl Who Dreamed Tomorrow), Presto & Varla (Last Illusion), Diana & Kosar (Child of the Stargazer), and Eric & Lorne (this episode). Fight me!
@@PungiFungi I got you. 😀 I've been hearing about Hank x Sheila for a long time myself. I've also been watching D&D through lately, though, and 24 episodes in, I'm not sure I really see it, at least not yet.
I wouldn't trust Presto to pull a peanut butter & jelly sandwich outta that busted hat,w/o it turning into some kind of horrible monster,or sliming the entire party.
something funny happens to Diana's top at 5:00 and also as someone previously noted, her skin tone goes white at 6:40. And then at 7:28 part of her leg disappears.
Each animation cel was hand-painted in layers and, occasionally, these mistakes happened as the studio put in late hours and/or was short on budget and staff. Hand-drawn animation is time-intensive, and at the time was done at twelve frames per second, with each frame being photographed twice. At 13,000 frames per 20 minute show, you'll find a lot of animation is recycled between episodes. With all those frames of hand-drawn and painted cels, it's not unusual to find these kinds of mistakes. You've got a keen eye!
For the 3rd season, this isnt a half bad episode. More mature than previous entries. Pity this is from the 2004 DVD release with the incorrect music cues. The 2008 release got them right.
@@TF80s When Dungeon Master catches the Talisman and saves everyone. In the original airing that moment had a "da da DAAAAH!!! musical cue, a heroic moment. Here its replaced with ho-hum background music. The same thing happens in Dragon's Graveyard and Child of the Stargazer. Heroic music is edited out for slower, blander choices. The 2008 DVD has the original music restored.
The brown case set has slightly fuzzier graphics and a grayish film over the cartoon compared to the red box. The red box has the incorrect music near the middle of many of the episodes.
So...what exactly happened? They never destroyed the talisman, Korlok went from evil to pitiful and then...what? It's like they cut some essential dialogue for time.
The episodes were heavily edited to be child friendly. For example, in "The Dragons Graveyard" Uni was supposed to be killed, and then later revived. But it was obviously thought that kids could not handle that, and so she was just "hurt". Whatever was cut was probably not kid safe, or mother approved.
I think the implication was that he had been warped by his quest for power, even visually. At the end, it looked like there was some "curse breaking" effect on him and he transformed - I guess back to his "normal" appearance.
@@kezza1302 that's because it's the voice actor Frank welker who did the voice of Galvatron in the third season of transformers. and if you don't believe me look up on Frank welker flimbiology and you'll find out that is true.
What happens to Corlock at the very end, while he's standing with DungeonMaster? Does he get "healed"/transformed from a mis-shapen man into a healthier, more handsome one?
waka waka waka it sho iz from Flappy Glaze, I means ah Harpy Daze ,pardone mah French Mansewew ,that means cavalier and the Fonz hung OWT. Mammy from Tom and Jerry
"We don't have time for "Heroics" (2nd lvl spell from d&d 3.5) barby" Yeah, if you waste your standard action talking to much, its your problem. If you hadn't talked so much, you would still have your standard actions to cast "Heroics"..^^
The kid wanted a couple loaves of bread for the talisman. The only thing the idiot guy seeking the talisman needed to do was give the kid those loaves and he'd have had the talisman without all the drama. Heck, the kid found the talisman on the ground, perhaps the old guy should have picked it up first. Just plain bad writing for the horrible third season.
I liked this episode - except the bit at the end which implied hunchbacked and bow-legged=bad, and that Venger had to get in on the action for all of 2 mins. I was enjoying it being one of the episodes where he wasn't the antagonist. But apart from that, good Eric episode.
Again, not a particularly good episode. All the characters seemed off. Are the writers different this season? However, did enjoy that Eric had someone else to inflict his snark on. Gave the rest a break.
The 3rd season is pretty awful. I have been a fan since the original broadcasts and when I saw the 3rd season back then, it bothered me cause I could tell the stories weren't as good as the 1st and 2nd season. Michael Reaves wrote some of the great 2nd season episodes, but he seems to be on auto-pilot writing crappy stories for the 3rd season. There's also another writer, a female, that wrote some very childish episodes like Cave of the Fairy Dragons and Citidal of Shadow with Venger's crappy-looking sister.
@@DV80s If it's a writer with a decent track record, then I'm inclined to chalk it up to process, as in, not enough time (and hence money) dedicated to script rewrites/editing. Cutting corners as the show winds down.
I doubt it. She didn't look white. Sometimes white women look dark when they're suntanned but no one accuses the person or the photographer (or the sun) of being 'racist'.=P
Not really. Generally you're only called racist when you say racist things, or deny racist cultural overtones. It's actually not that hard to be a decent human being.
Yes, first in the early 2000s in the UK, soon-after in the USA in a red box set, but the red box set has a problem, many of the episodes have the wrong music near the middle of the episodes. Then there was the brown case that corrects the music problems from the red box. The only problem with the brown case versions is that the graphics are a tiny bit more fuzzy and there's a grayish film over the cartoon compared to the red box. I know cause I edited the episodes and I picked the best graphics and audio from each box set.
I just realized, is this the first gay romance episode for a Saturday morning cartoon? D&D was more avant-garde than I ever knew. No wonder the preachers hated this show.
Indeed. Provides no assistance in battle, no benefits whatsoever to adventuring in general, doesn't even help much with characterization of the main cast aside from giving Bobby a lame excuse to be even more annoying if she goes missing or gets hurt, has most annoying "voice" possible, and they felt the need to have it "comment" on EVERYTHING that happens and to scream during perilous moments far more often than the rest of the cast. This episode was the most egregious so far, by giving it so many reactions to everything that happens, even when not on screen! Even Scrappy-Doo wasn't this bad! Even if they were usually detrimental actions that got others into trouble, he was at least capable of DOING things. Uni is just... there!
Maybe, but Uni does save Presto by using his own hat to create a flying carpet to save him and a baby dragon from falling in “PRESTO Spells Disaster”. Uni also provides a distraction among the Orcs to help Sheila return everyone’s weapons in “In Search of the Dungeon Master”. Not completely useless.
Discovered not long ago that the composer for the series, Johnny Douglas, lived into his 80's and had a house not far from where i went to college. If only I'd known at the time! The score for D & D is outstanding.
thank you we never knew who he was another great composer ahead of his time almost same vein as Basil Paldoris, Jerry Goldsmith, John williams , Trevor Jones, Howard Shore James Horner and Hanz Zimmer thanks again
I just got his Album recently The Johnny Douglas Strings - On Screen. It has a beautiful version of the D&D end titles.
@@i4wood where’d you get that from? I can’t seem to find it anywhere
Yes the end credits song is underrated
It's much the same score for every episode, but it was definitely a good one for the 1980s.
Corlocke vs. Venger; Frank Welker vs. Peter Cullen; Megatron vs. Optimus Prime. These guys are voice acting legends!!!
This episode was have been meant to link in with another ... At the end . Corlocke changes his form due to being good. I think its a hint at what lies ahead for Venger if he became good. Dungeon master cares and knows alot about Corlocke very well . maybe he too was one of dungeon masters children or friend who fell into evils hands. This really left the episode with a cliff hanger..
What happens to Corlocke at the very end, while he's standing with DungeonMaster?
Does he get "healed"/transformed from a mis-shapen man into a healthier, more handsome one?
Did that boy ever get to eat? Also that gaze at the end from dungeon master, forshadowing done RIGHT!!!!!
I love it, when Venger calls people a "Fool." We got a double dose of Fool, in this episode! I wish we had as much Gemini, in Thundar The Barbarian, as we do Venger, in Dungeons & Dragons.
Dungeon Master should have said:
"All things are possible for those whose legs are free of pants."
At this time Eric was so lucky to have a friend.
The party is friends with him ...
I hope.
Too bad they didn't have that gizmo when the Nameless One showed up. How embarrassing for him, to be clobbered by something that looked like it came out of a bubblegum machine or Liberace's sock drawer.
Lol.
A part of my childhood.nostalgia.
Dungeon master should’ve said “you have just earned your second victory” as he tossed the talisman away.
Great episode and one of my favorites! Eric and Lorn really are intriguingly similar in terms of attitude. In another life they could have been brothers no doubt. At it heart, it is a reminder that great power has grave prices and in the end is meaningless compared to not having what really matters.
There's quite a bit of fan fiction that, um...ships these two.
Wisdom 100+
@@mikeymcchoas3511 I've seen that term "ships" before. But what does it mean in your context?
@@MountTheodore72 It means you feel the characters should be a couple.
means gay@@MountTheodore72
the new kid with the talisman looks like an 80s Anime male protagonist (ala Robotech, Megazone 23, etc)
Actually, it's nor surprising. The animation for this cartoon franchise was done by a Japanese company.
Lorn definitely looks anime-ish. He looks like a younger Jayce from the Wheeled Warriors cartoon.
In fact, Eric looks quite Asian as well. I've always wondered if Eric is supposed to portray a spoilt Asian rich kid.
Every character got to have a love interest in a specific episode and the fact thar Erick only have an arranged wedding with a Queen that turns out to be a demon and this .... makes me think he might be . . . you know
Hank and Sheila
Diana and Kozar
Presto and Varla
Bob and Terry
Eric and Lorn
perfect soulmates.
this episode has a Jackalope in it.
What's that
@@EmperorDragon420 it's like a jackrabbit only with antlers on its head.
I once heard no one could catch a Jackalope because it could throw it's voice to confuse you.
You need a net,some moonshine,and paperclips to catch a jackalope.
Lumberjacks have weird mythology. Jackalope is one.
I ship: Hank & Sheila, Bobby & Terry (Girl Who Dreamed Tomorrow), Presto & Varla (Last Illusion), Diana & Kosar (Child of the Stargazer), and Eric & Lorne (this episode). Fight me!
Sounds solid to me :)
Well, much of Season 2 _did_ seem to be dedicated to shipping 1/2 the team.
2:54 Quite unnatural a cavalier fleeing from a potential mount. He should be level 3 at least, so he should have "born to mount", too!
Antonius Britannia Eric isn't exactly the typical cavalier
the shield gives him all the abilities of a lvl 7
Sadly, they don't actually have Class features.
Just magical weapons.
Dianna is actually the greatest gyminst in real life.
2:23…. I don’t think Hank ever had both Sheila and Diana all over him!
You mean Eric, I think.
@Deined I mean Hank. He was obviously a couple with Sheila but I could remember only once he was embracing Diana.
@@PungiFungi I got you. 😀
I've been hearing about Hank x Sheila for a long time myself. I've also been watching D&D through lately, though, and 24 episodes in, I'm not sure I really see it, at least not yet.
I wonder in this episode why don't they just eat food from Prestos hat
I wouldn't trust Presto to pull a peanut butter & jelly sandwich outta that busted hat,w/o it turning into some kind of horrible monster,or sliming the entire party.
@@zachmcmillan4060 ha ha for real dude!
i though same thing too
Or each other, starting with the weakest in the group.
something funny happens to Diana's top at 5:00 and also as someone previously noted, her skin tone goes white at 6:40. And then at 7:28 part of her leg disappears.
Wow thats some detail buddy
And at 18:59 her javelin is blue instead of green
I only saw her leg disappearing (good observation)- I couldn't spot the others.
glitches like this are common in production-line animation.
Each animation cel was hand-painted in layers and, occasionally, these mistakes happened as the studio put in late hours and/or was short on budget and staff. Hand-drawn animation is time-intensive, and at the time was done at twelve frames per second, with each frame being photographed twice. At 13,000 frames per 20 minute show, you'll find a lot of animation is recycled between episodes. With all those frames of hand-drawn and painted cels, it's not unusual to find these kinds of mistakes. You've got a keen eye!
When the party is doing so bad they need the Dungeon Master to come in as a deus ex machina to save them.
Did they just use a Lightsaber sound effect for magic? Interesting.
For the 3rd season, this isnt a half bad episode. More mature than previous entries. Pity this is from the 2004 DVD release with the incorrect music cues. The 2008 release got them right.
Which part has different music?
@@TF80s When Dungeon Master catches the Talisman and saves everyone. In the original airing that moment had a "da da DAAAAH!!! musical cue, a heroic moment. Here its replaced with ho-hum background music.
The same thing happens in Dragon's Graveyard and Child of the Stargazer. Heroic music is edited out for slower, blander choices. The 2008 DVD has the original music restored.
The brown case set has slightly fuzzier graphics and a grayish film over the cartoon compared to the red box. The red box has the incorrect music near the middle of many of the episodes.
It's not a bad episode.
The last three have been bad.
Korlock needs to put some pants on :)
All things are possible for those who are free from evil!?! >XD
"I have come for the talisman...and my pants!!!" 😂😂😂
(10:28) Lightsaber sound FX.
Another great episode.
Its great how Hank's Bow can do just about anything, but these horse creatures just side step out if its way.
😊
I remember when I was first watching this cartoon years ago, Why didn't Dungeon Master give at least one of them a magic sword?
Same reason Hank's arrows don't actually pierce any creatures skin, it's a children's show.
There were, at least at the time, stricter rules governing violence in children's programming
Thundarr and his sun-sword would've kicked everyone's ass
3:53 Frank Welker as the voice of Loren.
Another great episode! I’m going to meet “Venger” Peter Cullen this August in Sacramento. Wonder if DM will be there.
Doubt it
Given he's long dead, it's unlikely.
So...what exactly happened? They never destroyed the talisman, Korlok went from evil to pitiful and then...what? It's like they cut some essential dialogue for time.
The episodes were heavily edited to be child friendly. For example, in "The Dragons Graveyard" Uni was supposed to be killed, and then later revived. But it was obviously thought that kids could not handle that, and so she was just "hurt". Whatever was cut was probably not kid safe, or mother approved.
Yeah I must admit this episode was shake at best and would never air today. There were loads of mistakes, but then again its just a cartoon.
I think the implication was that he had been warped by his quest for power, even visually. At the end, it looked like there was some "curse breaking" effect on him and he transformed - I guess back to his "normal" appearance.
True
We could have done with less chit chat earlier and the chase scene and had more time spent of the conclusion.
Very rushed
Not a great show
04:47 its galvatron! All hail Galvatron!
it's frank welker.
@@eliaspuppet9973 no its not. it's galvatron.
@@kezza1302 that's because it's the voice actor Frank welker who did the voice of Galvatron in the third season of transformers. and if you don't believe me look up on Frank welker flimbiology and you'll find out that is true.
All hail galvatron
All hail galvatron
Is it just me, or did Venger seem really enthused about blasting Uni?
What happens to Corlock at the very end, while he's standing with DungeonMaster?
Does he get "healed"/transformed from a mis-shapen man into a healthier, more handsome one?
8:40 funny, jack-a-lope! rabbit w antlers!?
Its a wolperting!
I think what the dungeon master meant to say at the end is that all things are possible for someone with a heart free of resistant thoughts
Lorn and Eric are in love with each other
There are a few Loric shippers out there.
😂faceplam
D&D
Episode 24 ! Good One . Episode 25 Tomorrow Night.
Lol Jesse
Eric sounds like Ralph Mouth ... is he?
Yes, He is voiced by Donnie Most
And the archer is voiced by Willie Ames from Eight is Enough and Charles In Charge.
@@pauldesigncomics2625 and Bobby is voiced by Teddy Fields's son :)
waka waka waka it sho iz from Flappy Glaze, I means ah Harpy Daze ,pardone mah
French Mansewew ,that means cavalier and the Fonz hung OWT. Mammy from Tom and Jerry
@@210SAi Sorry Adam Rich played Presto. I made this mistake back then as well. :)
Lorne- you look trustworthy, lol 😆😂🤣😅😄.
2:33 why Sheila winks at Diana??
8:18 A Jackalope!
There is no power before talisman power.
Probably the coolest episode :-)
"We don't have time for "Heroics" (2nd lvl spell from d&d 3.5) barby"
Yeah, if you waste your standard action talking to much, its your problem. If you hadn't talked so much, you would still have your standard actions to cast "Heroics"..^^
This kid looks like Amuro Ray
16:31 Star Wars sound effect.
Why didn't Eric's shield protect him from the force field? Is that what it's for?
why is Jace of the Wheeled Warriors in this episode?
I can’t believe that he called him fish eggs😊
Was there ever a depiction of the planet or c8ntinent in the show? Even if only in some background scenery...
Yeah, it's got a landscape that doesn't seem to be linked together like on a map. Whatever works in the episode.
The Requiem script describes it as a flat continent supported by infinite length gigantic pillars over an abyss.
The kid wanted a couple loaves of bread for the talisman. The only thing the idiot guy seeking the talisman needed to do was give the kid those loaves and he'd have had the talisman without all the drama. Heck, the kid found the talisman on the ground, perhaps the old guy should have picked it up first. Just plain bad writing for the horrible third season.
I so ship Eric and Lawrence
Shelby Carroll Lawrence?
Frank Kepler
I think she meant Lorn : )
Feck off
That accordingly to the law of attraction
I liked this episode - except the bit at the end which implied hunchbacked and bow-legged=bad, and that Venger had to get in on the action for all of 2 mins. I was enjoying it being one of the episodes where he wasn't the antagonist.
But apart from that, good Eric episode.
Again, not a particularly good episode. All the characters seemed off. Are the writers different this season?
However, did enjoy that Eric had someone else to inflict his snark on. Gave the rest a break.
every episdoe was written different writers. maybe that s why every episode not so good.
The 3rd season is pretty awful. I have been a fan since the original broadcasts and when I saw the 3rd season back then, it bothered me cause I could tell the stories weren't as good as the 1st and 2nd season.
Michael Reaves wrote some of the great 2nd season episodes, but he seems to be on auto-pilot writing crappy stories for the 3rd season. There's also another writer, a female, that wrote some very childish episodes like Cave of the Fairy Dragons and Citidal of Shadow with Venger's crappy-looking sister.
@@DV80s If it's a writer with a decent track record, then I'm inclined to chalk it up to process, as in, not enough time (and hence money) dedicated to script rewrites/editing. Cutting corners as the show winds down.
Booga!
Booga!
Booga!
Why does Diana turn White @ 06:40? I bet the animation guy in charge of color got fired for racism. =P
I doubt it. She didn't look white. Sometimes white women look dark when they're suntanned but no one accuses the person or the photographer (or the sun) of being 'racist'.=P
Not really. Generally you're only called racist when you say racist things, or deny racist cultural overtones. It's actually not that hard to be a decent human being.
@@mrdonigan It works both ways. It's often the ones throwing around the word "racist" for their own ends that are indecent.
They need to make a american movie about D&D.
Was this in the dvd set release??
Yes, first in the early 2000s in the UK, soon-after in the USA in a red box set, but the red box set has a problem, many of the episodes have the wrong music near the middle of the episodes. Then there was the brown case that corrects the music problems from the red box. The only problem with the brown case versions is that the graphics are a tiny bit more fuzzy and there's a grayish film over the cartoon compared to the red box. I know cause I edited the episodes and I picked the best graphics and audio from each box set.
I wanted to hear the six hours of put downs.
NPC with an attitude.
soooooo any creelarkers here
Why do they never listen to the dungeon master?
valstani
breath of the wild 2
🌟🃏
music changed :(
😍😆😁
I just realized, is this the first gay romance episode for a Saturday morning cartoon? D&D was more avant-garde than I ever knew. No wonder the preachers hated this show.
It's not gay....
It was pretty gay
Nah; just a bromance :)
leave your preconcet!
Can not two men be friend without be called them gay?
TheEurasian7 There's a term known as brothers from another mothers. Not every single guy who hangs out with other guy is a gay.
if only he had the🔯✡✝🔱🔰📛✡✡✡✡✡!!!😂
Yhhhhhhhh
Look, it's lord of the rings... but better.
I enjoy this series, but man do I hate that damn unicorn. The most useless character on the show. Even more annoying than Bobby.
Indeed. Provides no assistance in battle, no benefits whatsoever to adventuring in general, doesn't even help much with characterization of the main cast aside from giving Bobby a lame excuse to be even more annoying if she goes missing or gets hurt, has most annoying "voice" possible, and they felt the need to have it "comment" on EVERYTHING that happens and to scream during perilous moments far more often than the rest of the cast.
This episode was the most egregious so far, by giving it so many reactions to everything that happens, even when not on screen!
Even Scrappy-Doo wasn't this bad! Even if they were usually detrimental actions that got others into trouble, he was at least capable of DOING things. Uni is just... there!
Maybe, but Uni does save Presto by using his own hat to create a flying carpet to save him and a baby dragon from falling in “PRESTO Spells Disaster”.
Uni also provides a distraction among the Orcs to help Sheila return everyone’s weapons in “In Search of the Dungeon Master”. Not completely useless.
What?
Bobby takes the fight to the enemy.
You are such a hater.
Uni is so annoying!!!!