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Morpheus is complicated. His responsibility as an Endless and steward of the human unconscious is more important to him than the interpersonal povs of individuals. His duty trumps even his own desires. He is very stubborn and reluctant to change.
Some people didn't like this arc of the series because it wasn't as straightforward as the first half of the season, with Dream having to get his tools back and finally facing down John Dee, a mortal with the opposite worldview as Morpheus' own. However I think this arc helps sell the idea that while Dream cares about humanity, he is not a "good guy" in the traditional understanding of what a good guy is. He sees things in the grandest possible scope, an universal scale. To him the whims of one mortal (Rose trying to find Jed) can't get in the way of his duty. Gault wishing to be a dream rather than a nightmare doesn't matter to him because he believes everything and everyone must serve a purpose, like it or not. And in this arc he is much colder than in the previous one, which is a lot more like in the comics.
Yes exactly he overall just as what people would call “bad” as desire or despair it’s just on different levels on the spectrum they are physical constructs of these things just a dream itself
@@ASageCalledQ Neil Gaiman did an excelent job of writing a character with a set of rules or even "morals" that isn't the same as our own as humans, but also in doing so without alienating the reader (and now, the viewer), so we understand Dream's perspective, but that doesn't stop us from thinking he's kind of a dick despite being right in his own way
Plus, the narrative structure in "The Doll's House" is very different than "Preludes and Nocturnes." That one was very linear - Dream has to do this, then this, then this next thing, until he's done. This one more... spirals inward (like a vortex). The characters gradually come closer and closer to each other until the finale happens once they've all reached the middle.
There are a bunch of changes from comic to live that I think made the story much much better. This storyline is one of them. In the comics, there was actually a pair of Nightmares in Jed, Brute and Glob. They specifically had influenced the foster parents to mistreat Jed to create this 'bubble' of dreaming cut off from the regular dreaming. And... eh. It was interesting, but sort of... thin. For one thing, I don't need magical stuff to explain why humans are abusive and terrible. There's plenty of real stuff. Gault being an actual sympathetic character, a nightmare who abandoned her position like Corinthian but for radically different reasons, is fascinating and just so emotionally compelling.
that's the interesting thing about morpheus. he's the protagonist of this tale, but not the hero. the sandman isn't a conventional, formulaic story. and sometimes he isn't even the protagonist, but goes through someone's else's story. like an anthology series hehe it was fun seeing u guys guess and see what happens. because the source material is so unpredictable, the show isn't this either
In 1974 Jack Kirby create a new comic book named after main character called the Sandman, whose costume is the one Jed is wearing. Jed was also a newly created supporting cast member of that comic. That version was the 2nd DC superhero character with the name Sandman (Garrett Sandford). His adventures, with the help of 2 assistants, involved him going into peoples dream to save them from evil forces, which is what Jed thinks he's doing. This comic was short-lived. About 15 years later a new writer used Hector, the son of Hawkman and Hawkgirl who had been a Superhero before, to replace the 1970's Sandman and take over his role. Gaiman used all that backstory and added it to his comics as most of these characters had been unused for a few year. The two assistants became 2 of Dream's escaped nightmares who were hiding in Jed's dream. The show isn't using that exact backstory but is using the characters with a little shake up to their roles in the story.
I have to be honest man, I liked this show when I watched it but right now I like it even more after hearing your discussions it just makes the whole thing more interesting to watch
Yes! Ever since I found out this series was actually happening, I was looking forward to reactions and discussions from new perspectives (while also enjoying those from long time fans as well). These fellas definitely deliver on that.
Love your analysis, especially the bit about Gault's dream construction revealing her subconscious respect for Dream and how Dream has over-corrected from Death's lesson. As a comic book fan, it's so fun to hear your theories as you watch -- even when they turn out not to be correct, they make complete sense with what you've seen so far. You're always running with the details you've been given and making connections to other parts of the show, connections that most people might not make until a second or even a third watch. These are by far the best Sandman reactions I've seen for how deeply you engage with the series and its themes.
Maybe its because I didnt read the comics, but Dream's line of "You should be" was unexpected and gave me chills. One of the best lines for me and what I watch other people's reactions for. (for this ep) - Cheeky suggestion - I want to see you guys react to Severance. Love you guys!
you always have the most interesting, thoughtful and thought provoking reactions. You give me so many different perspectives and that's one of the many reasons I love your reactions. Thanks for sharing them!!
Dream is neither good nor evil, he just…is. He can be really merciful or really cruel. I’m new to Sandman, but I think what I’ve liked most about this series is that it’s so unconventional and does away with the usual “hero” tropes. As for Barnaby, he was truly evil and deserved what he got. But Clarice was a victim, a battered wife who lived in fear, powerless in the face of such evil. I had compassion for her. I tell myself that I would never allow myself to be in such a situation, but I will not judge those who fall prey to those living nightmares in human form.
not dr snasty trying to sneak in the victorious song😭 "Suddenly...my choice is clear I knew when only you and I were standing here And beautiful is all I see It's only you, I know it's true, it has to be Well that money isn't worth a thing If you didn't earn it, you don't deserve it True love doesn't cost a thing And if you try to buy it, you can't return it No, no no-oh Your friends are doing all the same things And my friends say look at what you're wasting Well it doesn't matter if we change their minds"
Another thing about Dream banishing gault, u saw how she wanted to be a dream of some sort. he too wants to find a meaning to this all, he too wants to find a deeper purpose to his very being. But when Death his closest adviser( who he actually listens to ), even trumping lucienne most times, told that he is only here to serve humans and they need him as much as he needs them in order to be okay with just being a "function". He lashed out at Gault by banishing her basically saying "If Im only here to serve PUNY humans then so are you, be a nightmare, stick to ur purpose or get banished, period." ( mind u this is coming from once again someone who read the comics and know how much dream looks to his older sister death for answers lol I love saying that). btw ( reading a comic book/manga is so damn time consuming omg.)
HIS ENTIRE PERSONALITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS THE WRITER OF HIS CHARACTER SAID HIS PERSONALITY IS SUPPOSE TO BE HIM BEING BIG HEADED, WHILST IGNORING THE ADVICE OF EVERYONE AROUND HIM AND ONLY AT THE END OF THE SERIES WILL U UNDERSTAND WHY HE ACTED THE WAY HE ACTED. LUCKILY HIM BEING ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL BEINGS IN DC UNIVERSE MAKES HIM 99% IMMUNE TO DESTRUCTION. he get to chill and do whatever he wants for the most part lmfao. his personality is actually quite MELLOW compared to what he could be doing with that power.
The injustice of it! Profiling a guy just because he has hands… and teeth where eyes normally are. Oh, and is a murderous nightmare. Hm, maybe that is a good idea, after all.
Dream isn't running a communist world, he's a king. He's running a monarchy. His word is absolute. It's also been hinted that he's sort of an arrogant asshole. At this point we still don't know why he sent Nala (the black woman) to hell for a thousand years.
Yo the editing in this ep was fire And btw that whole talk about being good at a function but not wanting to do it is going to come back if they ever do a season 2. This is a big part of the Endless
There's all sorts of little touches of adaptation from comic to show, especially heavy in this episode, but one thing Iove is that they did not change the amount of money the foster parents are getting for Jed. $800 in 1989 (when the comic was written) is over $1900 in today's money, but they kept it at 800, and it feels like it makes the foster father even more of asshole (Jed being black in the show also give it a whole other dimension, he and Rose are white in the comic.)
I think that’s the real woke, giving proper consideration (whether agreeing or disagreeing) to other insights, rather than obliviously sleepwalking among those insights.
36:11, what freedom? Dream has NEVER said that there was any sort of freedom for the dreams/nightmares he creates while yall were watching the show. Dreams do what dreams do and nightmares do what nightmares do and in moments of peace, and a functioning dreaming where his kingdom is, everyone chills. never said nun about freedom and from the comic book im currently reading it looks like he has always been STERN. STERN dont equal A hole though, he just a stern ruler of his domain.
We never said Dream said there was Freedom lol. Kinda looses me from the starting line. You’re telling us what we already know and observed. Now we say how we feel about. We could just be quiet and end the video. But I share my thoughts and jokes about it
@@YaBoyRockLee LMFAOOO u took this straight to heart, just clearing up any misconceptions u may have of the character and why he do the things he do and why he behaves the way he does. just bringing to the table some added insight and answers that ive gotten from the comic books which explains away his behavior. his writer strictly wanted him to be Stern and not great at listening to others. which is why he aint mess with what gault had said and banished her. What I like the most is the post discussions yall be having lmfao was just weaving together my comic book pov with yall tv series pov to come to fully CONFIRM why he is the way he is.
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The way I see it, Rose isn't necessarily more powerful than Morpheus, but Morpheus is bound by rules, but she isn't.
Exactly she's unbound to your excellent point.
"Over-correcting": Yes, that is what I think, too. He is trying to apply the lesson he learned for himself to Gault.
Morpheus is complicated. His responsibility as an Endless and steward of the human unconscious is more important to him than the interpersonal povs of individuals. His duty trumps even his own desires. He is very stubborn and reluctant to change.
Yeah, he can come off as quite a jerk, but there are dilemmas he faces, and sometimes those dilemmas can be costly either way.
@@0okamino Fair point . All the endless are complicated deep entities.
Well his unwillingness to change was after all his downfall and leads to Daniel.
I won't say more, if you know you know :)
Some people didn't like this arc of the series because it wasn't as straightforward as the first half of the season, with Dream having to get his tools back and finally facing down John Dee, a mortal with the opposite worldview as Morpheus' own. However I think this arc helps sell the idea that while Dream cares about humanity, he is not a "good guy" in the traditional understanding of what a good guy is. He sees things in the grandest possible scope, an universal scale. To him the whims of one mortal (Rose trying to find Jed) can't get in the way of his duty. Gault wishing to be a dream rather than a nightmare doesn't matter to him because he believes everything and everyone must serve a purpose, like it or not. And in this arc he is much colder than in the previous one, which is a lot more like in the comics.
Also Dream is not a human which I think a number of reactors have struggled with.
Yes exactly he overall just as what people would call “bad” as desire or despair it’s just on different levels on the spectrum they are physical constructs of these things just a dream itself
@@ASageCalledQ Neil Gaiman did an excelent job of writing a character with a set of rules or even "morals" that isn't the same as our own as humans, but also in doing so without alienating the reader (and now, the viewer), so we understand Dream's perspective, but that doesn't stop us from thinking he's kind of a dick despite being right in his own way
Plus, the narrative structure in "The Doll's House" is very different than "Preludes and Nocturnes." That one was very linear - Dream has to do this, then this, then this next thing, until he's done. This one more... spirals inward (like a vortex). The characters gradually come closer and closer to each other until the finale happens once they've all reached the middle.
@@elbruces Could not have said it better myself
There are a bunch of changes from comic to live that I think made the story much much better. This storyline is one of them.
In the comics, there was actually a pair of Nightmares in Jed, Brute and Glob. They specifically had influenced the foster parents to mistreat Jed to create this 'bubble' of dreaming cut off from the regular dreaming.
And... eh. It was interesting, but sort of... thin. For one thing, I don't need magical stuff to explain why humans are abusive and terrible. There's plenty of real stuff.
Gault being an actual sympathetic character, a nightmare who abandoned her position like Corinthian but for radically different reasons, is fascinating and just so emotionally compelling.
that's the interesting thing about morpheus. he's the protagonist of this tale, but not the hero. the sandman isn't a conventional, formulaic story. and sometimes he isn't even the protagonist, but goes through someone's else's story. like an anthology series hehe
it was fun seeing u guys guess and see what happens. because the source material is so unpredictable, the show isn't this either
You guys have the best conversations during these reactions. Amazing, I really enjoy your reactions!
In 1974 Jack Kirby create a new comic book named after main character called the Sandman, whose costume is the one Jed is wearing. Jed was also a newly created supporting cast member of that comic. That version was the 2nd DC superhero character with the name Sandman (Garrett Sandford). His adventures, with the help of 2 assistants, involved him going into peoples dream to save them from evil forces, which is what Jed thinks he's doing. This comic was short-lived. About 15 years later a new writer used Hector, the son of Hawkman and Hawkgirl who had been a Superhero before, to replace the 1970's Sandman and take over his role.
Gaiman used all that backstory and added it to his comics as most of these characters had been unused for a few year. The two assistants became 2 of Dream's escaped nightmares who were hiding in Jed's dream.
The show isn't using that exact backstory but is using the characters with a little shake up to their roles in the story.
Yours may be the best Sandman reactions I've seen, so insightful and interesting, great points of view
Thanks for that 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I have to be honest man, I liked this show when I watched it but right now I like it even more after hearing your discussions it just makes the whole thing more interesting to watch
Thank you for that
Right? It was an amazing discussion, loved it!
Yes! Ever since I found out this series was actually happening, I was looking forward to reactions and discussions from new perspectives (while also enjoying those from long time fans as well). These fellas definitely deliver on that.
Love your analysis, especially the bit about Gault's dream construction revealing her subconscious respect for Dream and how Dream has over-corrected from Death's lesson. As a comic book fan, it's so fun to hear your theories as you watch -- even when they turn out not to be correct, they make complete sense with what you've seen so far. You're always running with the details you've been given and making connections to other parts of the show, connections that most people might not make until a second or even a third watch. These are by far the best Sandman reactions I've seen for how deeply you engage with the series and its themes.
Maybe its because I didnt read the comics, but Dream's line of "You should be" was unexpected and gave me chills. One of the best lines for me and what I watch other people's reactions for. (for this ep) - Cheeky suggestion - I want to see you guys react to Severance. Love you guys!
you always have the most interesting, thoughtful and thought provoking reactions. You give me so many different perspectives and that's one of the many reasons I love your reactions. Thanks for sharing them!!
Dream is neither good nor evil, he just…is. He can be really merciful or really cruel. I’m new to Sandman, but I think what I’ve liked most about this series is that it’s so unconventional and does away with the usual “hero” tropes. As for Barnaby, he was truly evil and deserved what he got. But Clarice was a victim, a battered wife who lived in fear, powerless in the face of such evil. I had compassion for her. I tell myself that I would never allow myself to be in such a situation, but I will not judge those who fall prey to those living nightmares in human form.
I think you got it. He’s what I’d call a narrative protagonist, which doesn’t necessarily always qualify him as protagonistic in his interactions.
not dr snasty trying to sneak in the victorious song😭
"Suddenly...my choice is clear
I knew when only you and I were standing here
And beautiful is all I see
It's only you, I know it's true, it has to be
Well that money isn't worth a thing
If you didn't earn it, you don't deserve it
True love doesn't cost a thing
And if you try to buy it, you can't return it
No, no no-oh
Your friends are doing all the same things
And my friends say look at what you're wasting
Well it doesn't matter if we change their minds"
finally falling 😭😭 that was my shit!
11:38 the look of confusion on Lee's face 😂😂
Another thing about Dream banishing gault, u saw how she wanted to be a dream of some sort. he too wants to find a meaning to this all, he too wants to find a deeper purpose to his very being. But when Death his closest adviser( who he actually listens to ), even trumping lucienne most times, told that he is only here to serve humans and they need him as much as he needs them in order to be okay with just being a "function". He lashed out at Gault by banishing her basically saying "If Im only here to serve PUNY humans then so are you, be a nightmare, stick to ur purpose or get banished, period." ( mind u this is coming from once again someone who read the comics and know how much dream looks to his older sister death for answers lol I love saying that). btw ( reading a comic book/manga is so damn time consuming omg.)
Good insight. True
HIS ENTIRE PERSONALITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS THE WRITER OF HIS CHARACTER SAID HIS PERSONALITY IS SUPPOSE TO BE HIM BEING BIG HEADED, WHILST IGNORING THE ADVICE OF EVERYONE AROUND HIM AND ONLY AT THE END OF THE SERIES WILL U UNDERSTAND WHY HE ACTED THE WAY HE ACTED. LUCKILY HIM BEING ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL BEINGS IN DC UNIVERSE MAKES HIM 99% IMMUNE TO DESTRUCTION. he get to chill and do whatever he wants for the most part lmfao. his personality is actually quite MELLOW compared to what he could be doing with that power.
"I see the hand. I'm puling him over." LOL LOL Thank you so much.
The injustice of it! Profiling a guy just because he has hands… and teeth where eyes normally are. Oh, and is a murderous nightmare. Hm, maybe that is a good idea, after all.
It's not super obvious, but Corinthian eats the eyes with his eye teeth.
Freaky, man.
Dream isn't running a communist world, he's a king. He's running a monarchy. His word is absolute. It's also been hinted that he's sort of an arrogant asshole. At this point we still don't know why he sent Nala (the black woman) to hell for a thousand years.
I don’t think he’s running a “communist world”. Just the best attempt at articulate what i see in that scenario
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@@Web497 haha thanks
@@pervysage4934 Their gonna love the rest of his siblings and their power's.
i love jed's cute superhero dream
Amazing discussion breaking down episode as always :)
Edit level gone up.... one of the finest react edit.
I don't have any deep thoughts to add because y'all took them all, so I just want to say, yet again: YOU GUYS ARE SO AMAZING 😍🥰
Thanks for that
Yo the editing in this ep was fire
And btw that whole talk about being good at a function but not wanting to do it is going to come back if they ever do a season 2. This is a big part of the Endless
That’s good to read. I been working with this editor to improve. Which included not rushing him
Love that you made Matthew honorarily black 😄
Humans are the real monsters in this show.
I still haven't forgotten that Dream has had a woman locked away in hell for 10,000 years for no real reason.
😭😭😭😭. Truth lol.
Hey, it’s for a real reason. Bad and petty reasons are still real. 😄
@@0okamino 😂😂😂
one of my favorite things abt sandman is that hes the protagonist but not a hero
Y'all aren't talking communism but totalitarianism
Appreciate that better description. Thank you
And authoritarianism. Those damn dictatorial authors! 😄
There's all sorts of little touches of adaptation from comic to show, especially heavy in this episode, but one thing Iove is that they did not change the amount of money the foster parents are getting for Jed. $800 in 1989 (when the comic was written) is over $1900 in today's money, but they kept it at 800, and it feels like it makes the foster father even more of asshole (Jed being black in the show also give it a whole other dimension, he and Rose are white in the comic.)
I was upset that Morpheus didnt just leave the dream. Why did you have to wake them up?
your conversation around 16:00 made me, a white 'woke' liberal old boi cry with new insight. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Lol. Yea we mix a bit if jokes into a real life opinion. To avoid controversy. Tough balance. Glad you appreciate it
I think that’s the real woke, giving proper consideration (whether agreeing or disagreeing) to other insights, rather than obliviously sleepwalking among those insights.
36:11, what freedom? Dream has NEVER said that there was any sort of freedom for the dreams/nightmares he creates while yall were watching the show. Dreams do what dreams do and nightmares do what nightmares do and in moments of peace, and a functioning dreaming where his kingdom is, everyone chills. never said nun about freedom and from the comic book im currently reading it looks like he has always been STERN. STERN dont equal A hole though, he just a stern ruler of his domain.
We never said Dream said there was Freedom lol. Kinda looses me from the starting line.
You’re telling us what we already know and observed. Now we say how we feel about. We could just be quiet and end the video. But I share my thoughts and jokes about it
@@YaBoyRockLee LMFAOOO u took this straight to heart, just clearing up any misconceptions u may have of the character and why he do the things he do and why he behaves the way he does. just bringing to the table some added insight and answers that ive gotten from the comic books which explains away his behavior. his writer strictly wanted him to be Stern and not great at listening to others. which is why he aint mess with what gault had said and banished her. What I like the most is the post discussions yall be having lmfao was just weaving together my comic book pov with yall tv series pov to come to fully CONFIRM why he is the way he is.
dream can be really mean sometimes 😭
He's not putting the eyes in his mouth...
Not the one between his nose and chin, anyway. 😉
day 2 of asking them to watch the bonus episode. ep 11
No need lol. We’ve already completed the show on patreon since last month. Just working through editing lol. That included ep 11