My Prediction About Autonomous Cars | Answers With Joe
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You've been hearing a lot about autonomous, self-driving cars lately. Here I take a look at where we are, when we'll get there, and how it will change the world.
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Our transportation system is due for a massive disruption and it's coming in the form of self-driving cars.
Autonomous cars have been in the works for a while now, with semi-autonomous options like collision avoidance, traffic-aware cruise control, and lane keeping becoming more and more common in even mid and low-price cars.
But thanks to companies like MobileEye, Cruise Automation, and Tesla, we are on the cusp of full Level 4 autonomy in the next few years. In fact, Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and more carmakers are planning to release fully autonomous cars in the years 2021 to 2025.
Ride-hailing services like Uber and Lyft stand the most to gain by this transition, which, according to technologist Tony Seba, will see the end of individual ownership of cars and become a Transportation as a Service model, where almost all travel is carried out through autonomous, shared vehicles.
And when these companies begin buying up fleets of self-driving cars, the cars they will lean on will be electric vehicles, due to the cheaper cost of electricity and the lower maintenance costs, as shown by the company Tesloop and their Tesla Model X that recently hit 350,000 miles.
Combine that with the lower cost of solar PV panels and Lithium-ion batteries, and we are setting the stage for a disruption of our transportation system like we've never seen before.
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"The Olympics are gonna be in 2020" - Cute... XD
Yeah.. They gonna have it in 2021.. Cute as well.... sucks for them tho..
This statement did not age well 😂
Eh, we don't lose anything by not having the Olympics. It has become a stupid corrupt industry...
That's why we Muslims when speaking of the future we always say Inshallah = If God wills. We humans don't control the future as much as we like to think.
"Because the Olympics are going to be in Tokyo in 2020..."
HA!
"Man, I wish I lived back when people still drove cars. Driving a car by yourself must've been so cool."
time traveling ass badboy
"I can't believe people died everyday from driving their own cars, it seem so easy."
And we'll have to remind the teenagers of tomorrow that sometimes it was nice, but most of the time, it fucking sucked.
Don’t forget motorbikes. That fell over when you stopped big ones used tyres like fuel and a Tesla can out accelerate and out corner them.
Do you want to ride a horse all day or a horse drawn carriage? Prolly not, same thing with car, unless you one if weird horse girl.
so a horse is somewhere between level 2 and 3.
i know... controversial.
*Rides horse home from bar drunk*
"Officer I'm not driving drunk my horse is an autonomous vehicle."
This actually happens where I live. The state had to add horses to drinking and driving laws.
Depends what game your playing.....
@@adventurelife9677 We have camels on the list here, I know a guy who got busted under the influence on a public road while riding a camel :) He also had a couple behind him with gear on, so transporting goods etc. lol, really happened, and I'm in Australia not a country where camel use is the norm. I believe he addressed the issue by running of into the scrub, in outback Australia, at night, the police just waited, he came back :)
If he would know where u wanna go, he would be a 5
@@SKREFI Or a 5.5 - 6 as if left alone he may also stop along the way and eat some grass and self fuel!! :)
Autonomous cars would actually be life changing for people like me who can't drive because of a disability. Not having to rely on others for rides would be awesome
Shloomth ever heard of a bus or train, stop waiting lol it’s here
@@iheartlreoy8134 not everyone lives in a place with good public transit. Buses here suck and trains only exist to carry cargo and block roads
Agree. Everyone who drives has their own independent schedule to anywhere with a road. Disabled, elderly, or underage have restictions on their mobility unless they have a chauffeur. Others can point to mass transit and cabs but these are not very adaptable to change. A call to pick up a list of groceries, dry cleaning, and a child from a practice game on the way home means you are driving and can adapt. Even for the able, what if events tie you up at home just when your child calls needing a ride from across town and you could send your car. Your child isn't stuck (since age also limits their mobility).
Shloomth so you think it’s actually easier to hold out for a technology which currently does not exist then it is just to expand the tech we currently have
Anvil Dragon that’s wasteful and part of the reason we have been directing development around public transit
I'm waiting for level 6, that's where the car tells you where and when your going.
and flies
I already have a wife that does that!🤔
Fak aiiii fak all Ais.
I told em, hey guys we got corona. N they mysteriously took off.
N i called n said.dude what happened.where are u? We have a corona crisis. N they said ' ummm we got artificial intelligence.
Its fake not real. Its in the word aritficial?? 🤔🙄🤷♀️ Why dont u call the humans the real intelligence people. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Elon would be dead by then. 3.5 million truckers n 3 million uber drivers n 100 000 amazon delivery people would have torch him with a flame thrower n came after him with pitch forks.
@@adrianaadnan7704 What...? I have absolutely no idea what you just said...
I had to laugh a bit when you talked about how you would miss your car, just think about back in the early 1900's when people must have felt the same way about their horse. "My horse is my best friend, he's always there for me" Just thought I would throw that out there.
People still ride horses so perhaps in centuries to come there's still gonna be that crazy adventurer who cruises the sentient highways in a modified manual car
"...multiple cars, multiple fat stacks...". Only in the first few weeks then competition sets in and margins will be squeezed. This happens in every sector with low, easy barriers to entry. The first guy makes a ton of money because he's first. Hoards of others see that it only costs a few bucks and next to no skills to enter the same market and so enter inside of weeks. Then they compete on pricing, trying to take market share from each other until rides barely cost more than the electricity to get there.
Take a lesson from the Gold Rush. Only one or two prospectors made any decent money. It was the guys selling shovels and running the saloons who made fat stacks. In autonomous ride-sharing it will be the mechanics, cleaners, managers that earn a living. Automakers build them once, owners buy them (with demands of durability) and hire the mechanics and managers to ensure those cars are always good-to-go.
This is why I feel that public mass transportation, particularly in the form of buses, will become both cheaper and much more readily available. Taxis will also become cheaper, and that's going to have a huge effect eventually, but I suspect the big initial impact will come from buses.
TBH with the amount of investment from those big companies I don't think the average person will even be able to get in the gate before the big boys are already fighting. Just the ability to manufacture your own fleet or bulk purchase will drive margins so low that it will be impossible to compete.
You don't have to go that far back.Cryptocurrencies died for ordinary people before ordinary people heard of blockchains. Just a couple years ago somebody could make money with GPUs, but only if they could steal the electricity. Now used top-spec GPUs that never had video outputs are selling for 10s of dollars in Chinese markets because you can only make money with $2000 ASICs.
Agreed. Capitalism will make sure the structure looks like a pyramid with a radio mast on top, all real quick and brutal like.
I would also include the software developer and maintenance IT guys in that safe category as well.
I'm 66 now. I used to love driving my car 40 yrs ago, going on 2,000 mi vacation trips... Now I just hate It all. I'm a fan of Uber rides, I buy air travel for 300mi or more. Even being an Electrical Engineer with a 40yr career in the oil industry, I welcome electric cars enthusiasticaly. The only kind of car I'd like to own in the future word be a nice old vintage beauty, electric converted by myself, 100 mi range maximum
@@shacktime This is while they pay the drivers, what do you think will happen when they eliminate the need to pay drivers and use this same technology to rake in all of the money with little upkeep in terms of cars and paying drivers. That is something a small cab company could never do.
@@Eccooke31 AV's are decades away. No technology in history has lead to so much irrational exuberance as all this digital tech. Everyone's losing their minds and their connections to reality.
@@shacktime Speculation without supporting evidence is moot. Now you lost at credibility.
@@Eccooke31 speculating? Hardly. You're obviously just another trolling fanboy who hasn't bothered to look into any of the critical literature on this subject.
I know a lot more about driving than you do, clown shoe.
@@shacktime Still, saying you "know all of this" and "Know more about driving." When A. You provide no sources and B. You know nothing about me.... Further proves that you have no credibility other then the obvious running your mouth.
Driving a car by yourself is so cool until you're stuck in a traffic jam every day to and from work.
No different than people who had to get rid of their horses in the 20s...they had a connection with the horse too im sure.
Horses couldn’t run 40 mph while carrying 4 passengers. Cars were just better in most situations. Self driving cars are better for the big companies so they will be rammed down our throats.
Can you imagine what they thought of the idea that people would then connect with a car, a machine, the same way they did with a live horse? I wonder what the next step will be...
@@thebigpicture2032 a car that can do everything you current car can, but also park it self so you can get off anywhere saving time. refuel/charge it self, come pick you up when you're intoxicated, drive it self to a service station, and let you do what ever you feel like while traveling. How is this not better in most situations?
Not quiet. I disagree because cars aren't goihg away soon, if all goes to plan, then maybe in 50 to 100 years we would loose cars. But we need a lot of social education before then, sadly. O and robots haven't taken our jobs yet...
I concede that you make some good points in convenience and allowing people to become intoxicated again but it is still functioning as a car, ie doesn’t get you there faster or take you further than before.
I once loved driving, now with the loss of road etiquette it can be a chore.
It's currently at the point now that someone behaving _courteously_ in their vehicle is *startling* enough to nearly cause me to have an accident.
thats called age my friend
I wonder what "roboetiquette" will be like.
I think it will send human drivers completely bonkers.
1Americanatlarge
I don't think so, or sex type related. There's a lot of grumpy young princesses and old dragons out there too. Only time I enjoy being on the road is on my Duke Monster.
You know.. when I first heard of UA-cam my reaction was _"Why would I want to watch other people's home movies?"_
The future is full of curves.
Oh, but I love watching people play video games for me. So many of those videos are done so well. And quite many of us who want to experience video games, do not always have time to play them. And many that I watch, are video games that I have previously played and won.
YT is so much better than quaint out-dated TV. And why should we want to watch, just whatever is on the lousy TV channels? YT is play-on-demand. And you learn so much more from YT than from the "suck away your intelligence" brain-washing TV.
@@yosefmacgruber1920 My house has a basic network cable signal (basically over-air TV) but I never use it and in fact my only TV is a CRT from circa 2000. I say tgat I don't watch TV anymore, but that's arguably misleading as I do stream plenty of video and will watch "TV shows" on my PC (series). Now, speaking of the Let's Plays, back in the 90s I discovered that I could use a TV/VCR/GAME 3-way switch to 'broadcast' a game or movie over the aerial wire by pressing down two buttons at once to bridge the signals. My parents used it to watch a movie in their bedroom from the VCR in the livingroom, and I had a friend that would watch me play Super Ghouls And Ghosts from another room.
@@BaronVonQuiply
Back before "Let's Plays" where I do not actually get to play, I loved playing some script file that came with the 3-D video game Marathon for my old Macintosh. Instead of just getting stuck and dying all the time, I could watch somebody else play it for me. I think rather than it being a video, it was a more compact data file that records somebody else's gameplay and uses that to control the game. BTW, _Marathon_ looks kind of lame compared to more modern games such as _Half-Life_ . But at least it was 3D. But my old Mac was too slow to run it full-screen, rather than just in a window.
Similarly, I dabbled around long ago with _Cakewalk_ and a MIDI box and MIDI cables, and my old 1990s "multi-media (CD-ROM) thousands of colors" Macintosh played my Casio keyboard so much better than I ever could.
@@yosefmacgruber1920 I tried Cakewalk in the 00s but ended up with Sony ACID. In the 90s I used a C64 with Dr T's MIDI sequencer (obviously now replaced with ACID).
@@BaronVonQuiply
I had I think about almost 18 songs in my 2-song Casio. I just programmed in a whole rest, and started the next song, well until it objected and insisted that it would not store one more note. Then the D-sized batteries eventually died. My songs vanished. Memory back then wasn't non-volatile like it is now. No power, no retention of data, unless magnetically encoded to a disk. Too bad that my keyboard was either too old or too cheap to have a disk drive or a USB flash drive port, or some memory storage device. But I still have the sheet music somewhere from whence I encoded the songs.
I had around 100 songs that I could play on my Apple //e computer, and maybe 30 on my old Macintosh, back when computers synthesizing music was the cool new thing. I think they were MOD files somehow converted to Mac from the old Amiga Noise Trekker program or something.
I never played with it nearly enough that I should have, had I been able to.
I didn't figure out Cakewalk well enough to get my songs saved onto my computer as MIDI files, like I wanted to.
Whatever happened to MIDI? Back when I had dial-up internet, I clicked some link to hear the Super Mario Brothers music, and it sounded just the same and downloaded practically instantly. MIDI files are so compact and efficient. Not an actual sound recording, but just the note information, telling your computer how to synthesize it.
One of my favorite songs that played on my Apple //e computer was _Beer Barrel Polka_ . It showed a crude image of a mug of beer, and after the song finished, the foam on the beer disappeared. I do not even like beer. I don't drink. But I like the song. Now I can watch people play songs like that, on YT, on a proper organ or something. They even play popular video game songs.
What was a C64 other than an Apple ][ wannabe? It even had the same 6502 CPU chip. But although I never saw an Amiga computer, from what I find on the internet, the Amiga was actually a rather cool computer. Wasn't that about the end-of-the-line for the Commodore series of computers?
A lot of people cannot live without vehicles. Everyone knows a musician that transports equipment to gigs. Artists who transport work to shows. Everyone in the agriculture industry. Every independent contractor. Every small business owner. A significant percentage of people are not urban professionals needing rides to bars and restaurants. I have never once used Uber or Lyft.
Try it sometime. You ever travel?
So they hire a car for transportation. What's your point here?
It'll be cheaper than owning a car.
Businesses are obviously going to have their own cars.
I hear you, Axnyslie. I'm a musician. There's no way I'm hiring an Uber to get to my gigs... not when I carry anywhere from 200 to 1000 pounds of gear to my shows. And then hiring another to get back? Nope. Not going to happen. Especially for out of town gigs, which make up the bulk of my shows.
@@MarcCoteMusic I'm in this camp. I am a retired real estate agent and I averaged around 100-125 miles per day on my car. This was back when EV's had a range of 30-60 miles. There was no way I was even going to look at an EV. Now, with their ranges, I can see it. BUT, now that I'm retired, I do things like suggested above. I like to go painting outdoors, in the canyons and mountains to the west of my home and I'm not planning on calling some ride share company to get me to those places. I also like to go birding and again, I'm not calling an Uber to get me to the places I want to go. Some of us have lives and interests that make ride shares impractical.
@@davecasey4341 yeah but where will you be in 2030? chances are you may need the self-driving taxi that can take you anywhere you want to go at 10 cents a mile. if you forget where you live, it wont. what if you want to go to a football game, or restuarunt but now parking is $20 because restaurants find it cheaper to just validate taxis instead of building parking lots and garages. there is a lot more to think out.
also what if car is allowed to drive 100 mph. what if you could go to sleep laying down in a VAN and wake up in yosemite or yellowstone. then you could sleep on the way back.
A refresh on this would be nice. (Or do something similar with the current knowledge.) I mean it's so fun to watch and it just shows: Predicting the future is hard.
So you're telling me that I'm a precursor because I don't own a car? Hehe 😎
I think it will be as physical mail, in past you sand it, today you do it only if you have to.
I don't own a car either.
Don't buy the hype and become one of the lazy fatties. Stay natural.
@@archenema6792 wat?
@@archenema6792 Stay natural, so live in cave and similar things? Nature will not wait, because u have morals, nature will kill u and eat u.
“Predicting the future is hard...especially these days” was this a little pre-video sly pun Mr Scott? 😅
Hey man, how are you?
It's hard because our future is absolutely ludicrous
Something Heinlein or Clarke said decades ago!
Aspect Science what lol
Predicting the future will get harder.
I think car ownership will be a thing of the past in urban areas but in rural communities people still need the freedom to get around and no one is going to sit around for 20-30 min waiting for a ride to the store or in an emergency situation. I grew up in an area where the EMS guaranteed "same day service "
EMS vehicles are expensive to maintain, and you need a human driver too.
Reduce the costs, get rid of the driver, and you can make EMS available MUCH more readily.
You don't use your imagination to your minds capacity lil Badger :)
@Kevin Warburton Uh, how ? High speed net will have AI doctor there before emergency "ambulance" (nearest vehicle that'll configure itself according to whatever is required) reaches accident location..? Of course there's time middle-ground but there always is. Nobody stated how many years each of these steps would take anyhow.
For those citing autonomous driving accidents, no one said that there will be no accidents. But tens of thousands of people are killed by human drivers every year in just the US. Even if the accident rate drops by only half, that's over 10,000 lives saved in just one year. And once autonomous cars are driving with other autonomous cars is when the accident rate will drop the most.
It will be just be "random" malfunctions for"random" people. The only ones that will drive mechanical cars will be rich people, the mafia and politicians in Venezuela. It will be glorious.
@@countdamoney8128 Count DaMoney Highway safety studies show that humans are poor at indicating intent. I've seen many drivers fail to use turn signals, don't stop at stop signs or right turns on red, will sometimes be in the wrong lane for a turn, and the list goes on. I have even been on an interchange on-ramp only to suddenly have a car coming at me from ahead. No, human's are terrible drivers.
@@countdamoney8128 I think statistics already show that automated driving is better that humans by at least 3 times (at least for special cases such as long distance highway driving.) And computes become 10 times better every 5 years. As a vol. FF/EMT I've seen plenty to support my position that people are poor drivers. EV car sales are projected to overtake ICE cars about 2023.
Henry Tjernlund it can go down even further if we stop fucking around by waiting for gay ass car manufacturers to put out expensive cars nobody can afford and instead take the money and build trains and busses
So you want to make millions of drivers jobless Across the globe , because some 10,000 people die? Its like one leaf is turning yellow on a full green tree , So you cut the whole tree !! logic?
What's upsetting to me, is that so many fan boys live in a bubble. in Minnesota, some people have to park at the end of their driveways, sometimes 300 feet from their homes, while they wait for snow removal, in -30F. Yeah, let me just run down to fleet farm and get a 300 foot 220v extension cord for my EV, should only cost a few thousand dollars. In rural areas places of work are spread out over large distances, and most people have similar hours, so ride share, not really a thing. And of course, no one seems to realize that there are a thousand factors that determine longevity, and they only talk about miles driven, a gear box doing a million miles in a climate controlled lab isn't the same as a million miles after 20 years of -30F temps and road salt, and constant boundary lubrication from intermittent use, and oil that's a frozen goo from sitting in frozen temps. Oh and yeah, you look at all the reliability issues of cars on the road right now, electronics are a major part of it, sensors fail, wiring gets corroded or wet, computers fail, you obviously have computers and smart phones, can you look me in the eye and tell me they've never spazed? Never randomly turned off in the middle of something, never froze and had to be restarted?, yeah, let's have a iPad drive a car down the freeway at 80mph, what's the worst that could happen? my last car was 16k, and it financially crippled me for six years, and I live in the middle of nowhere, where a trip to St.Cloud can be around 200 miles. A 30k car that gets 300 miles on a charge, more like 200 in the winter, yeah, no think so,
I agree. A lot of autonomous driving advocates live in a bubble.
Who assumes responsibility (financially, criminally) for damages, injuries and fatalities incurred by autonomously operated vehicles? Are insurance companies and vehicle owner- operators aware that there has to be culpability? The buck must stop somewhere.
@Turdus Migratorius we obviously do not see eye to eye on this issue. That is if you have eyes---you may be a computer generated autonomous machine in which case there is no point in communicating with you. Do you prefer artificial insemination to intercourse or taking nourishment from an I.V. instead of eating?
I predict that in the future people will develop cars with faces
And one in particular will use "Kachow" as a catchphrase
😂
You joke but that's actually a good idea. How can you differentiate your ride share from others? Talking cars with there own personality.
I will say one thing about fully autonomous cars: They can't come soon enough.
Albe Van Hanoy I think I’m in this camp of thinking. By what makes you say that? Just interested! :)
@@TommoCarroll Objective reasons and personal reasons.
The objective reasons are that they are simply safer, less prone to causing traffic jams, and emit less GHG (Not taking EVs into account here) . In a traffic grid entirely made of autonomous cars, they will all perfectly adapt to each other and the way will be smooth from start to end, for everybody involved.
The personal reasons are that I hate driving, I'm not very good at it, and I got refused a job once because of it (Keep in mind the job itself was completely unrelated to driving, however, it involved meeting with clients in various places.)
It's like glorified personal public transport. What's not to like?
In FLORIDA now the snowbirds, tourists, kids on phones, old old folks, drunkers, non english and just plain crazy drivers rule the road. Went out yesterday and had 3 very close calls. PLEASE give us autonomous ASAP PLEASE
Dutch highways are a perfect place for a proof of concept I would say. Not only as smooth as a mirror, but suffering from many traffic jams that could have been avoided with technology like this.
It's funny to watch this now, considering that no one predicted the effect of Covid-19.
Robert Romero Bill Gates and any epidemologist...
Just wait until cars own themselves. All it takes is one person or group of people to gift a car to the world with a blockchain smart contract. The car will save money for itself and for repairs. It will also be able to save money to buy another car and replicate it's programing. Eventually they will replace all "for profit" cars.
Too good. Mind blown thinking of possibilities
This is brilliant! cause also, what he didn't talk about, these services will probably be full of ads, so these cars won't need to!
@@Darth_Pro_x Not only full of ads but I'd bet a small charge to use the wifi on the car or they my eventually serve snacks and drinks.
There's an old science fiction story where a man runs a retirement home for cars, the vehicles get intelligent enough to make their own language and start to encode information in the sound their engines make, rich people in the story treet their sports cars like a pet and when they die they send the cars to the retirement home for the cars to have a good life.
Justin Trefney Yep, better have it fully trade-free :)
Tony Seba videos get to be minutes old before I devour them. 😁 I wish he'd make more of them, just to keep the info bang upto date. The last one I watched published in mid-2018 was ironically sponsored by Daimler, no less.
As to ownership of your car... yes, I'm with you there. However, I have spoken to a lot of people in their 20s, and there is an amazing apathy amongst a cross-section of them as regards owning a car. Granted, they are probably ahead of the curve, but they don't even care too much about learning to drive or the independence it offers. So I can easily see car ownership disappearing eventually. A couple of generations - GONE, as Mr Seba would say. 😎
Oops, found a more recent Tony Seba video. Devoured!
I hate driving, my parents pushed me to get a license and it feels like a huge waste of money and I only know one or two friends who actually likes their cars.
I'm probably very biased, being a CS student in a European city with good public transports, but I don't see the problem with our generation abandoning the personal car.
I totally buy that this all is going to happen and that it will be financially ludicrous to install an ICE car-based fleet.
But are EVs really sustainable? This is the question that really plagues me.
80% fewer cas on the road and car ownership going down sound great to me (although I'd like to note that it always appears to me as though "futurists" often overlook that not everybody lives in an urban area. On the countryside you are pretty much fucked without your own car.
I often hear that there is not enough lithium in the world to build enough batteries for all the EVs that are talked about and the lithium mines are often in areas of crisis / controlled by corrupt politicians and ruthless corporations.
Also, what really happens to batteries after they are so degraded they cannot be used anymore?
Planned obsolescence might not be a problem with the first wave of EVs that we are seeing now, but once they are becoming the go-to car models it will crop up again as it always does.
This will bring down the "life expectancy" of these cars.
I am not an EV hater, on the contrary. I really like the idea, but these issues need to be addressed.
Very probably I'm just ill-informed and smart people have thought about all of these things and concluded that going full EV is the way to go. I hope they had sustainability in mind.
Lithium and corruption? You've never heard of the $7 Trillion we wasted in Iraq or the buying of all our politicians by the oil companies. So give LIthium a go; besides in 3 years we'll be making batteries out of way cheaper materials.
Degraded batteries after 20 years? use them for stationary storage then recycle versus 70,000 pound of pollutants produced by an ICE car over its lifetime but big oil publicizes only batteries because it's one of their talking points.
Lithium is a very, very common element. There's more of it than there is oil, certainly. And if we ever did run out, they would just use capacitors instead of batteries.
There is billions and billions of tonnes of lithium in sea water so we are not going to run out of it even if every human on the planet gets a 100kWh-EV.
Wouldn't it be lovely if we could recycle the obsolete batteries into materials for new batteries?
The answer is "Yes" once you factor the full impact of ICE. The externalities of ICE far exceed its values for the size of this and future generations. It will become a special use tool (horse, plans,, trains) and fazed out as they are today.
I think car ownership may go down, but I agree, I doubt it will go away. There are plenty of people who keep tools and supplies for their job in their vehicles. I can’t imagine a lawn service is going to load and unload all their mowers, blowers, trimmers, etc just so the vehicle can leave them there. Then when they are ready to go to the next job site, they would have to wait for a ride share to pick them up. I think it will depend on people’s careers and lifestyles.
I work in service. If I dont have a truck I drive for tools...well it just wouldnt work. Nothing would get fixed.
@@braindamage7128
An excellent reply, and completely missed by Jostradamus. Still, service companies like RotoRooter and Comcast, and UPS can have fleets, just like the rideshare companies.
And private owners of cars will benefit from the same OpEx efficiencies as the fleets. I have a 2011 Leaf, and I've put 62,000 miles on it, a set of tyres ($400) and wiper blades ($28). (Though there was the time someone crashed into it, and I had to get it fixed, but that didn't come out of my pocket, and neither did the battery replacement [thanks to Klee et. al. v. Nissan.]) I calculated it cost about 1/7 as much to charge it as it did to put petrol in my PT Cruiser for the same 46-mile round-trip commute. ICE cars just cost more per mile.
Lastly, who doesn't customise their ride? Can't do that to someone else's taxi.
@@braindamage7128 The problem is that independants are more likely to go away as the cost goes down for companies with fleets. That or that type of car with very standard tools will become a service that people in the service industry subscribe to.
The aftermsrket parts and motorsports industry is a multi billion dollar gig. I wonder how this will be affected. Seems like it will be similar to alcohol, pot and guns.
Maybe they will hitch a trailer
Your nostalgia of car/life experiences (that I share) sounds remarkably like something someone would say about the feeling of turning the pages of an encyclopedia, or the smell of the pages :)
And it's so American 😂.
You also had to buy a bookcase to store that fancy encyclopedia set into. Now it fits inside of your smart-phone and you can take it with you wherever that you go.
@@morgandax5590 And yet the Nazis were burning all the books during WW2. Don't underestimate the power of the word in any format :)
@@morgandax5590
But theoretically, you could get crushed by a bookcase filled with encyclopedias falling over on you in an earthquake. All those books will easily fit inside of most any smart-phone now.
And the drop in price of e-books, as in sometimes even free, helps make books more accessible to more people.
I recall a few decades ago, you could pay $100 for an electronic Bible that did nothing else, and I think that it had but only about 6 lines of liquid crystal screen text. Now you can buy many smart-phones for less money than that, and many of the Bible apps are free. And you get way more than 6 lines of text at a much better image quality. And you can have multiple Bible apps in your smart-phone. No need to be limited to just one app nor just one Bible version.
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Well it looks as if you did write this comment?
_Except encyclopedias don't kill people in the tens of thousands on a daily basis..._
I presume that is a reference to the bad human drivers that we need an obvious self-drive alternative for?
I have a Strong opposition to the idea that people should get in a vehicle (that is Not on tracks like a train), and Not have any controls where a human input could be made (Levels 4 & 5 of automation). I would never get into an autonomous Uber unless my seat had controls available (or some other human did.) Why? Below are 3 long-winded reasons. ;-)
I am an airline pilot, so let me just start with this, computers are not perfect when it comes to steering a vehicle, and they are still kinda terrible at identifying and managing changing environmental threats (basically, planes just can't do that at all if it's not wind-related, and I could list plenty of things that cameras wouldn't identify as a threat that eyes would.) A vehicle can only do what you program it to do, and what (working) sensors are available to the programs. Simple proximity sensors, cameras, and GPS maps just aren't enough in my opinion. I'd accept it if someone was at the wheel, but not unmanned.
1) Autopilots sometimes just decide "OK, Your turn now!" and disconnect for no immediately identifiable reason... (either wind correction didn't calculate right, the course that one computer shows is slightly too-far-off from another, whatever.) You need a human to be able to intervene, because, when you're driving, you're only feet/meters from immovable objects. If the automation does an "oopsie" calculation and veers-off, or just "gives-up" you need to be able to intervene! Even something like a deer dashing across the road, a tree falling, or a landslide (that you can see, but it can't) needs to be avoided. ... Even if it's as simple as a screen with a button saying "Emergency Stop," that should be demanded for autonomous ride-sharing... if not, then they're just Begging for wrongful death lawsuits left and right.
2) Everything humans make fails eventually. In the airlines, with frequent flying, you'd be Very lucky to get into an aircraft that has been write-up free (maintenance free) for a whole month given the range of ages of airplanes (probably as short as a week too if you flew multiple times daily like we do.) Most maintenance is small and not involving the automation, but it happens! I've flown a few of flights with the automation broken, and a few more where the built-in redundancy for the computer to check itself wasn't available.
3) Think about this for a moment, if the airlines don't trust automation in environments that are very meticulously planned, charted, and paved to within inches or feet of tolerance, (well manicured airports with strictly defined "clearways" free of buildings, trees, anything,) and planes are still spaced at LEAST 2.5 miles apart, then why should we completely trust automated cars when cars are speeding by opposite-direction at 100mph closing speed (50mph speed limit) and are only 2 feet away on roads that might not be well charted, maintained, or painted? Human input will still need to be available, at the very least excluding well maintained and regulated roads and areas designated as "autonomous vehicle certified" in some way.
These ideas are why there is still a demand for pilots, despite the fact that, YES, the plane flies itself 90% of the time with only course, heading, and altitude inputs required. There is a very BIG no-no in the airline industry, it's called "over-reliance on automation!" Some accidents were caused by relying on the automation to do what the Pilot Should Have Manually Done Themselves to fix the error. They are actually encouraging (at least at my company) for us pilots to engage the autopilot a little later, and stop it a bit sooner so that we can maintain a higher level of precision in-case the autopilot decides to go on strike! Autonomous cars will be no different, Especially since there's 150x More Chances for something to go wrong because there's ~150 people on one plane trusting one computer, as opposed to ~150 people, with Each In Their Own Vehicle (75 if you assume everyone splits a ride-share.)
wow so many good points here. I thought about that auto pilot situation also, there is a lot of talk about replacing the truckers with self driving trucks... I don't see how you can have ai self driving semi trucks on the road, that sounds crazy to me.
@@gustavouribe7561 Yeah, unless a self-driving truck had sensors all-over the thing, I'd be like "I'm staying far away from that truck." No telling how many situations could go wrong from the AI overlooking something. Also, will they be "fair-weather-only" trucks? What about when it's pouring-down rain with gusty winds? Would it be programmed to account for hydroplaning and terrible visibility? I'm sure they would, but those are difficult situations even as a human!
I would hate to live in any city where a large number of car are being used as autonomous ride share. Think about it thousands of cars that now are parked for most of the day will be on the road all the time ,potentially peek hour traffic 24 hours a day. Oh I hope your car hasn't ended up on the other side of the city when you want to go home but hey take someone else car they'll get home somehow.
I don't think People will be making 'Fat Stacks' in fact I would guess it would be at best a break even or loose money situation here is why. I drive a Taxi on a standard day I drive around 300 km (and I live in a small city you can drive from one end to the other in around 30 minutes) so even if you are doing 5 days a week you are putting 1500 km on your vehicle plus what ever you put on it. So that will be 6000+ km a month. With an average service cycle of around 5000 km you will be getting your car serviced once a month add other general maintenance to that and at the end of say five years when you go to sell it what are you going to get for a car with nearly 1/2 million kilometers on.
But ah you say I am making money, how much do you think you'll make with thousands of cars whose owners are under cutting each to get fares.
I'm in Australia so I'll look forward to autonomous disruption around 2040 then... 😂
Good luck if you want to put your life in the hands of some self-automated missile.
In Brazil we'll get there by 2050
@@rubindiehl2569 in mexico...we will get there by 2025...cuz were neighbors!!! Suckas!!! And we got plug in stations as well. Reminds me, gotta go ask for more!! Be back soon headed to elons twitter....yall shouldve asked.
@@rubindiehl2569 not too late...the man delivers.
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Some self-automated missile? That reminds me of an episode of _Star Trek Voyager_ I think it was, in which Belonna Torres (spelling?) convinces a AI missile that its programming is in error, and that the war is probably long since over. But I may be confusing the story with another similar episode? The story shows that according to sci-fi lore, that even a rogue AI can be reasoned with. So the missile returns to its pack and explodes prematurely and destroys all of the other missiles so that they can not reach the destination planet. Apparently, it is too risky to try to convince all of the other missiles, so the missile agreed to do what it already knows how to do. To explode, but to change the target so as to destroy the other missiles.
I think that self-drive cars will soon prove to be much safer than unreliable human drivers. Even a good human driver can become drowsy, distracted, or have a sudden medical event. What do you do if you have an allergic reaction and suddenly you can not see, or you can not breathe? Should you have to struggle to drive on top of that? Can you afford to just wait a half-hour for an ambulance to show up? Most human drivers have no idea what was the last mile marker that they drove past. They only know where hospitals are that are close to where they live. At least with a self-drive car, you could instruct it, "Take me to the closest hospital. I do not feel right." "Estimated time of arrival - 18 minutes", faster than awaiting an ambulance to show up. And the self-drive car would not get lost, and may even call the hospital to alert them to the problem and a doctor could talk to the person right over the car speakers.
Thanks for the awesome video as always. Very entertaining and informative.
I don't think you got level 3 right though. Level 3 guarantees safety without immediate human initiated intervention and without human monitoring. If a situation arises that a level 3 system can't figure out, it will ask the human to take over, and if that doesn't happen within several seconds, it should pull over and turn on hazard lights. In particular "driver is not required to monitor the environment".
This is completely different than level 2, where it will simply crash in many situations if the human doesn't take over within a couple seconds. The "simply crash" mode is within spec for level 2. That's not a problem as long as the driver knows what is required of them. After all it is featured in levels 0 and 1 as well.
I recommend going to the source: www.nhtsa.gov/technology-innovation/automated-vehicles-safety
But this is a UA-cam vlog reply, so I'll just chime in with my foolish interpretation...
To understand the levels, understand what happens if the driver acts like they are driving at level four (i.e. tells the nav system the destination and immediately takes a nap). This assumes city enabled automation where applicable...
Level 0: Vehicle smashes into neighbors trash can and stalls on their lawn. Cat narrowly escapes.
Level 1: Vehicle beeps then smashes into neighbors trash can and stalls on their lawn. Cat narrowly escapes.
Level 2: Grapefruit wedged the steering wheel successfully fools the driver verification system (seriously, don't do this okay?) Works perfectly for the first 30 miles. Enters a construction zone, beeps loudly, just long enough for the driver to snort and squint. Vehicle drives through cones and smashes into the tractor at 65mph. Driver's estate is fully responsible for the collision. Estate tries to sue Tesla but loses (as it should). Score +1 for Darwin. Due to the increased median intelligence of the remaining Tesla driver gene pool, L2 autonomy is safer than L1 and L0 in aggregate.
Level 3: Works perfectly for the first 30 miles. Approaches a construction zone, beeps loudly. Driver snorts briefly and goes back to sleep. Vehicle turns on hazard light and slows down to 5mph. Can't find a way to pull over. Stops in lane blocking all traffic. Vehicle calls 911 because driver is nonresponsive. Lots of horns honking. Driver gets a ticket for obstructing traffic, contests it because "car was driving". Driver loses case.
Level 4: FSD magically navigates the construction zone, and wakes up driver at the destination.
Level 5. FSD magically navigates the construction zone, and calls customer housebot at the destination. Your package has arrived.
As a long-time car owner, I can't wait to get out of the automotive money trap.
And an electric vehicle is supposed to be different?
@@Mike-jf5ip Sure, cheaper. Less moving parts.
@@patpowers9210 lol keep dreaming, these companies need you to a buy a new car ever few years.
Amen to that.
Mike 54321 if you don’t own it and you ride share, hell yeah it is. Lol
Why does Joe think Tesla is ahead? Why is he mentioning FORD lmao. Joe, Waymo exists!!! You know, the company already operating a 100 square mile self driving network in Phoenix, owned by Alphabet, a company with a hundred billion in cash. Crazy to think you did this long video without any mention of Waymo, Googles self driving car unit.
It’s a question of data. Modern AI uses a lot of computer generated algorithms. The code is generally not really understandable by a human. Tesla has hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road gathering data. Alphabet has a tiny fraction of the road data. That said, you’re right, they did deserve to mentioned. They are likely to be number two in the race. The other problem for alphabet is that they are lidar dependant. Tesla is entirely camera based. For a variety of complex reasons, lidar is a mistake.
Phoenix, hmmm, isn't that near where the woman was killed by an autonomous Uber car? Just saying!
Waymo? u mean the slow as 25mph cartoon cars that bump into busses? no they don't have any advantage just because they operate in a geo-fanced area, same as VW/Audi had a self driving car on a race track 5-6y ago, but can barely keep a car in lane.
Tesla & Mobil Eye have the lead right now as they have started it first, and Tesla has had full driving cars for at least 18 months since they threw a large team of programmers at it.
But no one is going to have the lead in it even if level4 is achieved in next 3years.
Legislation is a bitch and its going to take 10-15y for gov igiots with dozens of studies by dozens of "experts" dozens of years before they legalize it. Don't get me wrong, this tech is amazing, for seniors, blind or injured, sick, disabled, tired or drunk, or small businesses, whatever, but the point is as soon as a couple of cars crash and some one is killed, a million miles of red tape will suddenly appear, and tons of air head "experts" will appear on CNN bitching and whining about it, ignoring the fact that thousands get killed right now because of texting while driving.
Just as it took many years (and many opponents) to implement seat belts & air bags, it will take just as long to have autonomy.
@@mOczakowski yes, car crashes are, unfortunately, routine, but "different car" crashes will be headline news. A year later they are still tracking the woman killing in Tempe AZ; family has just now sued the city, $10,000,000, after settling out of court with Uber. Just like the terrorists mowing down people with cars, a few were horribly and senselessly killed, on the same day as the "routine" car crashes killed dozens more. That's the news, carnage sells, especially if it is "unusual". Legislation goes no where in divided gov't, Congressional gridlock reins supreme now, and will well into the future; this will only fly in communist and socialist dictator countries, not in capitalist countries because of our laws (with millions of attorneys licking their chops) and freedoms (yes, we still have a few), those are "sacred cows" here; many men have died for them. So good luck Venezuela!! LOL. :D
@@cassidy5099 lol
It is interesting watching this in early 2024. "EVs will be on price parity with ICEs" Nearly, but not quite. "EVs with a range of over 200mph will cost in the around $25K" Oooft, poor 2018 Joe, you naive rube. Maybe adjusting for inflation that was correct. But not even close in real terms. Lastly, in automation we seem to be no closer to achieving mass outputting of driverless cars than we were when this video was published. Interesting. Why not? It is not like the companies mentioned have stopped working on the idea. Even now with much more advanced AI, there seems to be very little noise about level 4 cars. Joe, I would love for you to do a follow-up on this video with a 2024 perspective.
It just won’t work where I am now. I’m staying at a place on a main road currently, and even with modern GPS, google street view and all that, still thinks the house is hundreds of feet further than it is. When I finish building my house, it’s on a curvy, hilly backroad. No way in hell would I trust that thing over myself to keep control, especially when it’s snowing and there’s a layer of ice on the road. Maybe it works great in cities and surrounding areas, but I’m just too far off the map for it to be useful/not kill me and my family.
The guy with the horse and buggy likely said "People flying through the air and driving down a road at 80 mph!?...why, they'd all be killed. God help us."
Since driving is actually pretty dangerous, statistically, I wonder what the statistics of horse and buggy was. I tried looking it up, and finding lots of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that points toward horse and buggies being very safe for fatalities but still having injuries (including ones at 0mph). If that's right, then that fictional Luddite you're citing would actually be right in his skepticism about the fatality risks.
@@Muskar2 Autonomous human drone transport will be huge and could take huge market share from autonomous cars. To bad no one is in full charge.
@@actualfactual8737I don't see single person aviation becoming huge. From a physics standpoint it will be very inefficient on short distances, and thus expensive. I am also skeptical of the risks involved with having crowded skies of vehicles - crashes will probably cause much more damage than road crashes. Another point is that noise pollution will probably be incredible - most notably from take offs and landings. I think there's better ways to solve traffic problems.
@@Muskar2 Thats exactly what Elon said. Typical fanboy. The guy is very cool, but tunnels and self driving cars will not solve traffic alone. I can see it happening, transport has to come from the private sector and infrastructure is extremely expensive. 15 years from now maybe?
@@actualfactual8737 Personally I neither think autonomous vehicles and tunnels is solving traffic congestion in the short-term - in fact I am skeptical that congestion will be solved in the short-term by any solution.
I've worked a few years in an office near a helicopter pad and it was extremely distracting when it was active (mainly Agusta 109) - not to mention dust, dirt and sand was flying 10's of meters. I expect small electric aviation to be less violent and noisy but I don't see how it's possible overcome this entirely. You're right that my view is partially inspired by Elon Musk's statements, but I also have several engineers in my family who agree. I would certainly not put a number as specific as 15 years on it. In my view, it's about as uncertain as when they expected autonomous highways to be a few decades away in the middle of the last century.
something tells me im gonna have to clean my auto car once a day because erryone pisses in it
Hence the camera.
So, Uber will be a synonym for a mobile outhouse?
Why would people do that?
It is like Uber, the passengers rate the car, and the car owners rate the passengers. And if something goes wrong, the camera tells the insurance company who did what. If people want to keep riding in the cars, then they need to keep their rating up.
Think of it like... a social credit sore
I don't think car ownership will be gone, it would be more of a personal transport vehicle that drives it self but it's still owned by you
This would be awesome for camp vans
I think it will only be for those willing to spurge on luxury. Basically everyone at the moment who buys second hand, or new cars under 50 grand will realise using a share scheme costs them very significantly less, with equal flexibility, and likely go for the cheaper option.
Maybe old second hand cars will be cheap to buy, as the ride share companies prioritise reliability. In that case some people might owner older cars which need maintaining.
But when it comes to buying your own car and renting it out, I don't think you will be able to compete with the economies of scale from big companies. The market will saturate in all but the most isolated towns, and prices will be too low for it to be worth the time.
Oh come on, don't quote Ballmer. The guy was a salesman turned CEO and completely incompetent at both.
He hired his replacement after setting up the basis of the cloud business at MS. He also kept his stock. Yes he was an oaf, but he's done ok. ;)
He throws a good chair, though
I love the _idea_ of fully autonomous cars, and I really appreciate Joe's optimism and enthusiasm for the subject, but I have two words that shut the whole idea down.
Insurance. Industry.
Private and Commercial Driver Liability insurance alone is a multi-billion dollar sector of the industry in the US because _everyone _*_has_*_ to have it._ Liability (or "Financial Responsibility") products insure _the driver,_ not the car. It indicates an acceptance of responsibility for future potential "driver error" mistakes.
Who picks up the liability tab for an autonomous car? Individual owners? The manufacturer of the car? The designers of the car's software? All of those options come with legislative nightmares that no politician wants to touch. Add to that the lobbying juggernaut of an insurance industry that is perfectly happy with the status quo and you can see how unlikely the prospect of large-scale adoption of the technology really is.
Its all fine for people who live in cities or close suburbs. But for people who dont, who live out in the country, this does not work out so well. We dont even have bus or taxi service. Trying to get Uber out here is too expensive or unavailable.
It is always more difficult and expensive to live rurally. I used to live (almost literally) in the middle of nowhere! Extremely high transportation cost for everything thing!
Hmmm. Interesting point, Margaret. I wonder what would happen if you or your neighbors were the vehicle owners so "taxi" rides or bus rides would originate right there.
@@JanetWilliams01 right. Plus most people who live out in such places usually have multiple vehicles. So imagine before going to bed you set your vehicles to work in the nearest city. And when you wake up theu have finished their routines and are sitting outside for you.
When/where will it first be illegal to drive your own car?
When human lives will finally be worth more than "pseudo-freedom" to drive your own car.
After all: Why would you want to steer your own car? To which purpose? Fun? All right, you can't have fun while watching the car drive to the destination?
Can't have fun watching the fields when you program the car to do a round-trip?
Letting the car do the driving is no different than sitting in a plane, a bus, a taxi. You personally don't have any influence over where the vehicle steers.
Difference is: An AI does it. And much more reliable and safer than a human could.
@@MistedMind I can tell you aren't a car guy. No, driving a car yourself is a lot more "free" than having it done for you. Driving for fun is a lot more than steering, it's having full control, pushing it to its limits, dropping fractions of a second, etc. If you don't like driving you wouldn't understand. But either way, human driving and autonomous cars can coexist - even if humans are banned from the roads. Off roading, race tracks, etc, will all continue to exist. Driving will be a hobby rather than a necessity.
When it benefits corporate financially to do so.
@@BunkerBlog I agree with you. I genuinely enjoy driving. Some people like motorcycles. For me just going for a drive is relaxing and gives me time to process things and just get out. Riding is NOT the same. I dont like to even ride with another person driving.
I don't know when, but if I had guess where it will be first: Singapore.
While AV's are bound to be much safer, how do we determine how safe the software is from hackers, or terrorists who could take over a fleet, given so many data breaches by large software corporations, and so many instances of hospitals, police forces and other govt' organizations being constantly hit with ransomware. They can't even stop that and yet we should not worry about getting into autonomous vehicles. One also wonders about the long run effect of a new generation of people not knowing how to drive, and being even more dependent on technology.
I live in Arizona and I see at least 5 waymo cars everyday. The self driving is taking over
A Non American:
Well, Yeah, You live in Arizona.
You only have highways.
DIY mechanic since mid 60's and computer enthusiast since late 70's. Both those things are prone to fail.
Put 'em together, what could go wrong?
Considering autonomous vehicles only have human drivers to compete with, they have a ridiculously low bar to clear. There's no way these vehicles could fail to surpass human driven safety statistics with minimal technical effort.
Speak for yourself :-)
And yet, they haven't. On a comparison of like road to like road driven, they really haven't shown that they're better, statistically. I think that is easy to underestimate what the human mind does, even if you feel it does it poorly. A half century and more of AI research and development still hasn't made a robot/computer/device walk, drive or converse as fluidly and reliably as humans. Feel free to flame if you think that I have that wrong.
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Can't you do all that in a car that's not your own? I understand your point but that seems like hanging onto a couch just because it has "memories"
I think a stronger argument for not letting go of being your own driver is primarily the thrill of driving itself.
Great video by the way.
I'm a simple man. No matter the video, I see Joe, I click
@funkyfishclone To be fair, you have to have a pretty high IQ to understand Joe Scott-
@@ZanzatheDivine I suppose you are proven right, cuz most commenters don't appear to understand him; and not only here, on this particular topic! :D
@That Guy Yup username checks out
Yea I am with you...same
A follow up video to review your predictions might be interesting!
I live outside philly and last week we had the polar vortex.. If I were travelling I would have to sit at an charging station for more than a few hrs in -F.. this is my only gripe right now... EV's would be hands down right now for southern states who travel locally and charge at home.. but long distance travelling and relying on charging stations - sitting and charging for hrs on end - is not convenient - unless you have the time to waste..
That won't last long. Tesla's next roadster will have 1000 km range. It won't take long before that tech trickles down to the more affordable models, and 2 years after that?
@@Snarkonymous There is a Chinese manufacturer who went back to the swappable battery model and has built a network in China of swappable battery stations. The battery can be changed automatically by a robot in a drive thru facility in 3 minutes. The other one people don't talk about enough is wireless induction charging. Once the /kwH price of batteries makes EVs the norm, it won't be long before utilities are competing for the contract to put metered wireless charging under the major roadways so that re-charging is unnecessary outside of the car. The witricity companies have already made massive advances in rapid wireless charging too.
@@jeremyleonbarlow Very good points.
Fast charging does not require more than 30 minutes (as of now).
Ten years from now it will be 10-15 minutes.
I am pretty sure you are not taking into account the sub freezing temp.. warming the battery pack from -6F will make the charger take at least 2x as long since there is only 6kw of active heating... regardless - 30min to an hr+ waiting for charging to make sure you have enough to travel to where you need to go... not a lot of piece of mind
secondly - super chargers are not around the corner and easily accessible here.
... you kinda really need an ICE car too just for bad weather in the northern states.. at least for the next 5 years IMHO...
anyway I holding off my new car purchase further into the future for an EV no sooner than 2022.. so I know kinks will be worked out for sure...
Actually $18,000 seems kind of high for a maintenance cost, if that excludes fuel used, over 350,000 miles. I have a 6-cylinder automatic 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee with almost 300,000 miles on it. Total maintenance costs, including oil changes, tires, 1 battery replacement, a fan belt, air filter, wipers, and a fuel pump replacement cost (because I have logged it all) about $5,400 over 16 years; a recent radiator replacement adds another $300 to that figure. Your mileage may vary.
I'm currently loving my Jeep Renegade. And I've beaten the shit out of it and my maintenance on it has been very low. But with that said..... I'd still like to have a Driverless EV that I could use during the week days and have my Jeep as a "weekend" only ride.
@Thomas Darby
Doesn't Joe's estimate of $58000 for maintenance cost over 350,000 miles seem ludicrously high? By a factor of ten? What am I missing?
Did you account for inflation?
You do have to consider that this is a roughly $100K vehicle vs your roughly $30K vehicle. I believe that they said the tires were around $7200 (in the original video). Also, most cars require some kind of major engine and/or transmission work long before 300,000 miles. While not the best example, I have seen a some Cadillacs requiring over $6000 worth of engine work at just over 100,000 miles.
So, after leaving my previous comment, I decided to look into costs for oil changes on some luxury SUVs. For the Land Rover Sport, it costs between $125 and $250 for just an oil change and inspection. If you are anything like me, you have never spent anywhere close to that for an oil change. However, that is what can happen on these luxury vehicles. At $200 for an oil change every 7500 miles, that would be over $9000 by the time you reach 350,000 miles.
Edmunds estimates that the Land Rover would cost about 16500 after 5 yrs and 75,000 miles. (They actually estimated over $55,000, but that included depreciation, taxes, insurance, and $11,000 worth of fuel. I subtracted all of that). That would come up to over $74000 by 350,000 miles. I don't think anyone is going to keep that car for that long though. ;)
I invested in Netflix when they still mailed DVD’s!
Are you rich now?
23 years to reach that type of degradation? Dude those batteries don't last that long, even when in the best of conditions, they degrade not only with usage, but also TIME. Really you can probably expect 200k miles or so out of car's batteries with a 200 mile range if you're only driving 15k a year. Fast charging isn't as horrible as it's made out to be so long as you have active cooling mechanism for the batteries, which Tesla's have. This is the reason why they last longer than the same batteries that aren't actively cooled. Not some secret sauce, there is nothing special about their batteries. There is already enough data out there to know what to expect from them.
+1 Thought exactly the same thing. 10:45 - Batteries also degrade over time so this is not a fair comparison. Also agree that regularly fast charging is nowhere near the worst thing an EV owner could do to their battery.
Yup. Fake statistics that don't actually take into account reality, instead living in a fantasy land full of hopes and dreams. I love all the charts that make projections into the 2030s+ 9:04 because trends always just continue forever right? Right? They never start off strong and then plateau or reverse or change in any way. Like mass production of EVs would never increase costs of battery materials for instance... to think of ONE of countless other factors that they ignore. But I love using 3 years of data to predict 20.... super reliable.
I live on a remote island in rural alaska. I don't think it will happen nearly as quick here.
I was actually doing some research to see what it would take to drive my EV up to Alaska. Obviously the charging infrastructure goes about as far as Vancouver, but there are RV parking spots all over! I think I may try it this summer, and see how far north I can get. :D
@@ikani1
I can't even imagine trying that with a range on a recharge of 30 miles. But at 200+ even 300+ miles on a charge, as with some Tesla models, it seems like it could be almost fun. At most, you would recharge at night and maybe what? Once during the day? And you can eat at a restaurant and meet people, while recharging.
I totally agree. There will be huge difference in the adaption of these cars in rural and urban areas. The combustion cars will continue to exist in rural areas.
This seems completely ridiculous to me. It sounds like you make the trip at least twice as long with an EV.
Any chance there is an update video on this subject in the works?
The legal issues in the US will delay this for a long time....
Not really. They're on the road in Az and proving to be much safer than human drivers.
I'll stop driving my F250 Super Duty 4x4 when they pry it out of my cold dead hands... or when the cost of diesel becomes impossible to manage... there is that.
@Jason Conover: When demand goes down, supply also goes down (reduce refinery output)... don't count on either gas or diesel ever going down much.... but you can count on them going up a lot.
@@billderinbaja3883 unless there is a corona virus and a oil price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia, lmao
Sorry, but the math on paying for a fleet of self driving cars is simply BS. If turning your car into a taxi is really going to be THAT lucrative then guess what, the market is going to be quickly FLOODED with self driving taxi cars, which will cause the profitability to plummet. There will be WAY more supply then there is demand for taxi rides, just like during the great depression before the Taxi Medallion system was invented.
While there's a lot of money to be made in self driving cars, it's not in letting people make their own taxi fleet. Also, no way in hell does that take off in suburban and especially rural areas where car ownership is much higher.
I’d love to know what people think currently about a future of autonomous cars - especially after this video! It seems the public’s opinion shifts with big announcements etc.
*So, are you excited/scared/intrigued?*
Always been excited. Driving is so dangerous for everyone involved. I can make sure I am careful but that doesn't go for anyone else.
Plus, biking will be so much safer! :D
Living in a country with narrow streets, street parking and serious traffic congestion ... sceptical
@@Wimpiethe3 Ah that's an interesting perspective I haven't heard - motorcycle safety! - that'll be an interesting scenario; a raod with self-driving cars and human-driven bikes!
@@andrewpaulhart Very true! Maybe it's time car manufacturers implement those multi-axis wheels? The ones that can rotate 90 degrees to allow the car to kind of do a crab move into a car parking space!
I find it depressing that people look forward to autonomous cars because it is safer! yuk! safety if boring and breeds mediocrity. In my thought experiments I like to take things to their extremes to see where things might go.....think personal bubbles and lots of filters (optical/auditory/social/financial...) arrrg! why has there been an explosion of extreme sports? though, it seems these are slowly being programmed out of us too.....driving is empowering because it is dangerous. .....why don't we just wrap our kids up in a big sterilized ball of bubble-wrap and roll them around (exposure to germs MAKES YOU STRONGER!!!!)....yeah that's a great idea....hell, we don't need legs or arms, or sports, they are dangerous......walking, that can be very dangerous!, so is cooking, mowing, hell, so is using your computers and phones.....RSI (sorry OOS or whatever the Frig that is called these days). Maybe I'm just getting old.....don't worry , its all o.k.! Old power tools had buttons that locked the motor ON for convenience now you have to press 3 buttons to make them work at all because we all cannot be trusted......
Autonomous cars?!! Gimme a brake!
Wouldn't be autonomus then!
yeah, they will never fly!
...pistol fingers?
To bad covid delayed all this stuff at least 2 and up to 5 years.
You shouldn’t drive when emotionally upset
I might as well not have a car then
EMOTIONALLY UPSET
@@danacoleman4007 LOL
14:16 -15:00 This is why Americans love cars so much. Because they are integral to our daily transport to and from pretty much everything; They become a trusted ally and safe space to process things.
Just so. A place to keep your stuff when you're mobile. Think you can keep an emergency tie, or a few protein bars in someone else's taxi? Now you get to tuck it into your pockets if you want to have it with you.
You had the experience of turning the pages of your encyclopedia, and writing notes in it. Drying flowers in it.
Today you don't think these are important enough to keep you from using Wikipedia.
Same with cars.
Otherwise, great video!
True in many cases such as fiction books and general interest non fiction books. However, when I want to study/learn something, I get the hard copy of the book so I can write in the margins. It is also easier to reference. Examples include my Bible, my computer books, my books that I use to learn foreign languages. But, you are right about my zombie fiction; I get all my books from Kindle and Smashwords. Autonomous cars will one day dominate. But, one thing that didn't change between horses and cars was the need for a driver. Driving, like Joe said, often has therapeutic effects.
Tesla will be first to level 5, everyone else is too far behind and dont have the fleets to do it.
EU regs don't allow the same features in autonomous driving as they do in the US so I still think they're a while from dominating world wide but yeah I agree tesla will probably be the first to lvl 5
My bet is on waymo. Fleet data is only useful to identify situations, the learning is done in simulations anyways.
Tesla killed people with their automic car -_-
@@laos85 ok, so how many people were killed by ICE vehicles this year?
Actually it should be a ratio not just how many died.
Tesla is a long way back compared to Waymo, GM, Ford, and practically everyone:
amp.freep.com/amp/3142974002
Don't believe Elon's lies.
the cost of electricity is ALREADY GOING UP IN RESPONSE TO EVS WHILE ROADS GO UNFIXED DUE TO A REDUCTION IN THE FUEL TAX
ITS A DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY ALRIGHT!
I’m an Uber driver who uses a Tesla in the uk. Electric is the way to go, and autonomous driving is definitely coming, but I think most companies are over optimistic about how quickly they will be able to account for all the possible situations autonomous cars could encounter on the road. Add to that the legal issues around assigning culpability after accidents, and the moral ickyness of choosing a system that drastically reduces overall road death numbers, but which will inevitably throw out the occasional fatal error (doing damage that a human driver could only cause if they went fully postal) and I think genuinely disruptive full autonomy is further off than is generally predicted. We have a tendency these days, when prognosticating about tech, to assume there is something like Moore’s law in effect in every tech development field. Meanwhile we haven’t had a meaningful development in battery tech in thirty years. When developing AI and attempting to design robots that could perceive their environments, very few people foresaw the roadblock of the frame reference problem coming. I believe that truly capable driverless cars are on their way, but will require an AI that is orders of magnitude more sophisticated than anything we have deployed so far, and that we will probably have to solve problems that at this point we haven’t even realised are out there.
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It’s pretty simple ethically what to do when a car kills someone bud stop overthinking it.
I’ll help with a short answer:
Cars will have cameras of all types RGB, infrared, mono, etc. point is these will capture everything therefor allowing the judge to see if it was the idiot human who caused the crash or if the system failed.
If it was the human who got hit fault then they are liable for all damages.
If not then the company who either created the car aka the system is responsible. There might be the whole thing where if u buy the car u are then responsible for it but unless there a thing like UBER then most individual owners won’t agree to that since it makes no sense. There for it will go to the company who made the car.
Now that’s figured out u bring in insurance companies and do what we have in the past same sh*t it’s just altered. The ethical mess u speak of is only now because no one can agree on sh*t since it’s still so new. But laws will get ironed out soon and it will be set in stone.
Not really an issue but I like your hesitance.
Deaths by self driving cars so far shows it's 100 times safer. So insure will "gladly" pay.
this is the long version of my comment. so much money has been thrown at this by huge companies that you might think it's a done deal, but as of Jan 2019, I don't see a single autonomous vehicle on the roads.
@@marrrtin well, companies throwing money at things isn't really the most efficient way to do research.
What exactly do you mean by "electric is the way to go"? So far electric cars don't even have 1 benefit compared to internal combustion cars. Every single imaginable aspect is inferior.
Yeah but you predicted this for 2019, three years ago....
And 3 years from now this will be a good video to update and show again ...and 3 years on ...and on ...and on. With simple date changes the message will be pretty much the same.
Funny thing I 've been hearing about disruptive effects of A.I. since the 1970s. The tipping point is closer than it was, true. But not that much so.
I suspect the videos of 3,6,9 years on will start to add a retrospective note of caution - 'why the robotaxi revolution got delayed'
Can we get an update on this vid? Just curious (since there wasn't any Tokyo 2020 Olympics)
You had some "important life moments" in your car simply because you spent so much time in it. I've never owned a car, but I've had impactful moments and processed very big things while on airplanes, trains, in taxicabs, etc.
It's probably safer to do that anyways. Why would anyone want to be extremely emotional while "driving or operating heavy machinery?"
I hope they find a way to keep us living longer. I’m so jealous what my 8 yr old son will experience.
Hello people reading this in 2022! Do any of you have drivers licenses?
God knows how these autonomous cars will cope with single track roads and passing places... Like we have a lot of here
Same where I live, who backs up to nearest passing spot or gate way.
Probably by direct communication.
Same where I live. Oh and let's not forget logging lorries, quarry lorries, massive potholes, sheep/deer that suddenly jump fences & walls, groups of cyclists who suddenly decide to ride on the wrong side of the road, black ice on corners and over bridges, slippery patches of cow dung, and the horror of plunging into a dense fog patch. Won't that be fun?
@@debbiehenri7170 you don't live in the west Highlands do u?? Sounds just like here minus the logging lorries but with added wild goats lol
Probably way better than the average human driver who is easily distracted... or often drunk
People will always want to drive cars because it feels good. But these people will also want their car to self drive when they are feeling lazy
So then, self-drive will soon be way more popular than even automatic transmissions versus manual?
I think many people will be scared of manual-driving, once they find out how much safer that self-drive is. They won't want to train their children how to drive. They will just help them to get a newer and much safer self-drive car.
Already, people are starting to tell young children that they may not have to ever learn how to drive. By the time they grow up, cars will probably/hopefully be driving themselves.
There was an old bumper sticker, "Don't honk. I am pedaling as fast as I can." Someday having a self-drive car, will seem just as natural as pushing an accelerator, and expecting for a powerful engine to do all of the actual work. Wouldn't you just rather do the manual work yourself? Probably not. The car would hardly move at all. Pedal toy cars, move at up to maybe 2 mph.
The ultimate autonomous vehicle: a horse and buggy.
bicycle rickshaw
My Amish neighbors would tell you otherwise.
I recently attended a funeral where a horse spooked by a wal-mart bag snagged on a fence wire flapping in the wind went into panic mode running wild resulting in the buggy rolling over and throwing one of the children out and killing her.
That and another incident that took place a couple of years ago where a horse could not be stopped for a stop sign and trotted onto the highway in front of an oncoming car.
Luckily only the horse met it's demise in that incident.
@@appanooseguy615 Yikes, that sounds a little too autonomous.
ugh... that upkeep though. I spend 5 min a week fueling my car, and wash it a handfull of times throughout the year, and 2 oil changes and a tire rotation.
The idea that I need to feed my horse multiple times per day, if I use it or not, and have to brush it, and care for it... that just sounds like work to get to work.
The horse will eat every day. Vet bills, and shoe work.
I don't think we'll buy cars anymore, we will just pay a monthly subscription to use taxis
My only real concerns are system security - just think what a disaster a hacker could cause, and manually operated vehicles.
True. and everything can be hacked. So you first world test objects can work out all the bugs for us.. deal?
"Just $18k in services", what the hell that's a whole car!
IanVal for 350,00 miles.
for 560,000 km, that's pretty good. Plus, the car itself is fine and can run more. An ICE car would pretty much die at that point and you would NOT ONLY SPEND 50k ON MAINTAINENCE BY THAT POINT, but you would be forced to scrap your car and buy a new one.
It doesn't matter what the average person does. His point is that businesses are going to drive this process, and they do their maintenance (or they don't survive).
When I see an autonomous car on a road with no visible lane markings at all because they're covered in snow, drive in the wrong lane to follow tire tracks, accelerate to get a running start to get up a hill with enough spacing to account for the possibly that the car in front of them will slide backwards, recover when it slides because it doesn't have enough momentum to get up the hill, and then redirect itself to a shallower road, or one that gets the priority with plows, I'll be sold.
Last year, a self-driving car failed to stop for a pedestrian crossing the road on an empty street in near-perfect conditions, a task that I would expect even a drunk driver to perform better at. I don't why people think we're vaguely close to safe self driving cars. For southwestern highways, where there is little weather, traffic patterns are relatively simple, and there is little else going on but the road, maybe. For driving downtown in a metropolitan area that gets heavy rain or snow, you've got to be kidding me.
Last week a human driven car failed to stop for a pedestrian crossing the road on an empty street in perfect conditions. We arent even vaguely close to safe human driven cars. Not saying that these things arent problems we need to improve on to make a fully safe self-driven car. But even if self-driven cars are 10% safer than humans we would be crazy not to make that change.
@@robcampbell7175 Those are two very different situations for several reasons.
First, humans have something like 6-7 orders of magnitude more chances to get involved in accidents, so a statistical anomaly in that category is far less significant than one involving self-driving cars.
Second, while we can use that information to study general trends, we can only say for sure that a single driver would make that error, because we're all wired a bit differently. Even this is invalid, because by the time we come to that conclusion, the driver has already rewired their brain, most likely to correct for the specific error that they made. However, I still wouldn't want them to be driving a car. Contrast this with self-driving cars. If one car makes this error, we can expect every single car with the same software to make the exact same error until a team of engineers push a software update. Just like with the driver, I wouldn't want those cars driving until that software update gets pushed.
If self-driving cars are 10% safer perhaps we should use them. However, we don't have the information required to evaluate this. For the most part, self-driving cars have been limited to driving in easy conditions while supervised by a skilled, attentive safety driver. Frankly, it doesn't prove much at all. Most human drivers would perform extremely well in similar circumstances. In addition, we're comparing drivers relying on windows, 3 mirrors and maybe some blind spot sensors and a backup camera to a car loaded with tens of thousands of dollars worth of sensors. What could a human driver do with these sort of sensors integrated into a well-designed interface? We have no idea, because no one is investing in it. Driverless rideshare and cars for people who can't get driver's licenses is where companies see the money, not in safer vehicles for the average driver. If technology came out that made drivers much safer, it would only increase the bar for self-driving cars, so these companies have an incentive to avoid using their technology in this fashion.
That self-driving car also had a sober adult human behind the steering wheel who was supposed to be watching out and take over if needed since they are still in the testing and learning phase, but guess what as usual the human was not paying attention and they did nothing which was their only job. Self driving cars are a very new technology, think of it as a kid who is in driving school except when one computer/car learns something every computer/car can learn it at the same time (given they are from the same company since the software is not open source right now). I wouldn't expect a kid who is learning how to drive to be perfect, heck I don't even expect the other adult drivers on the road to be perfect which is why I drive defensively, and I look both ways before crossing the road.
He announced the end of the Automobile industry in this video.
No. He (re)announced the end of ICE-cars. There will still be automobile companies, but they will only make EVs. Tesla will own enough of the market that regulators will try to break it up.
No modern gasoline vehicles have carburetors you silly goose
Good point, so its no injectors, injector seals no fuel pump, no fuel rails, no fuel filter, no fuel lines, no fuel tank, no evaporative fuel valves, and no sensors to monitor all this crap...
what?
True.
The process of mixing gas and air (carbureting) is still happening though.
It's just being done directly in the combustion chamber.
1:44 in before this video gets claimed by Tony Seba
Agreed
14:10 Remember that you are talking from the perspective of a car owner, that has owned a car probably since your teenage years, living in a car centric culture... As a european living in a close knit historical city and densly populated country with an extensive public transport system, i can very well see the car declining rapidly... I for one have never owned a car, and don't even have a licence, and don't have any of the memories you discribe associated with cars... And neither do quite a few people I know... Of those people I know who do own a car, many would not hesitate to sell it if it became cheaper to just rent a self driving one as needed. Car sharing is already very common here...
It might change a bit slower in car centric USA, but in the rest of the world the change could potentially be very rapid as they are already changing to less car centric options now...
"some significant things happened in a car."
"Drove away from my first break up in a car."
"Something grandmother in a car."
The future generation you seemingly lament can still experience those things in a car... I highly doubt keeping your hands on a steering wheel, feet on brakes and gas pedals, and attention on what's essentially human-processed traffic code contributed in any measurable way to the significance of those experiences.
If anything, I would bet you could more fully experience and process those types of trauma if you didn't have to worry about keeping yourself alive in a 4000 pound deathmobile....
Not a car guy, I can tell
Joe has too much of a witty dialogue... And i love him for that
@Tucson Jim maybe Joe already is AI.
.10 USD/mile.... damn you Americans are lucky to have oil fields the size of countries.
Expect EVs to catch on way faster in Europe.
I agree that this is inevitable. My concern is what happens to transportation jobs? Even delivery and medical transport jobs are not going to be exempt from this. I can’t imagine an employer that isn’t going to argue that they shouldn’t have to pay as much when all you are doing is walking the package to the door. I’m a paramedic and I work for the largest ambulance company in the US. I have sat through multiple contract negotiations and I guarantee my bosses will argue that the autonomous ambulance that they pay for does a significant amount of my job and that we should be paid accordingly.
You will be just fine. Your primary skill is not driving. You will have more time to prepare for the incident and give better quality care when you get there as a result. Professional drivers will get absorbed into other industries and new industries many of which don't exist yet. Only about 10% of the jobs done 100 years ago are done today. 40% worked the land now its 2%. They just do other things. It's been this way since the industrial revolution.
You should read about Malthus and the effects of technology on the economy. In short, we don't need jobs, we need stuff. We actually need to make stuff with less human input, so that each human produces more per capita. The entire advanced economy you see around you results from this process of creative destruction.
@@-whackd The world does seem to be going that way. Creative destruction creates more jobs that people hate so they can earn money to buy stuff that they don't need. Modern economies seem to create working environments that have no real purpose. The world needs less stuff rather than more in my opinion.
Steve Pepper. I see your point to an extent. Technology is, and always has been, a job creator and a job killer. The problem I see with automation and computing advancements is that entire industries can be wiped out. There are already computers that can be given simple goals for a new product and then run through 100s or even 1000s of possibilities to meet those goals in a fraction of the time that an entire team of designers would take. Computers can analyze trends in the market and generate the next generation of product according to those trends. People could always move on and do something else when technology eliminated their job because other things still had to be done by people. I can only think of a very few fields that eventually wouldn’t be able to be done through computing, robotics and automation.
@@caseycraig633 Yep, such human works remain: cleaning, plumbering, taking care of old and disabled people, dishwashing, police work and of course attouneys, bureaucrats, politicians. Whaat ze nice perspective indeed.
Thanks, sir! I just saw a Tesla Model S get into an accident and have been wondering if it was driving on its own. Also, saw a Tesla being towed recently (I assume it ran out of power). Anyway, can’t wait to see autonomous cars with nothing but someone’s pet dog riding from house to house alone in a car sitting next to me at a stoplight lol! I will say that, as someone who loves engines/cars, I know that I’ll always want to drive and be in control. The ride-sharing is interesting!
Armed ASMR
The first person to die by a self driving care die recently
And now I'm wondering how much you could re-charge a Tesla by towing it ? :)
@@VAXHeadroom Actually, someone did this, though I don't have a link. Sorry. I believe that they said it was a 1 to 4 ratio of energy, meaning it takes about 4 miles of towing range to add 1 mile of battery range. Not an exact science though. Anyways, you just tow the car with the regen brakes on and you will get range. However, if you do so too fast, or with a full battery, it could cause the car to catch fire. Maybe the cause for the towing fire a few months ago.
For me, while I would like to keep the control and drive myself, I would gladly give that up to remove all the idiot drivers from the road. Do you feel the same way?
Idiot drivers think they're experts at driving and they're the best drivers. They race around, weaving in and out of lanes, jackrabbit starts. It might get them somewhere a few minutes before I arrive. Do they even think about it? The risk for a few minutes? What is the logic?
They will still experience those "moments" while someone/something else is driving.
I agree, things are happening quickly now... like a ball rolling down a hill; very soon, we wont be able to stop it.
Very soon, someone driving a vehicle themselves will be considered more than "old fashioned" or "quirky". They will be considered a danger to themselves and others.
We will be legislated out from behind the wheel for our own safety.
That's how come we don't have flying cars... duh!
You forgot to mention the extreme impact this is going to have on the millions of people employed by the trucking industry.
He did not forget.
There’s always a dead industry that will be entirely replaced as something new and revolutionary comes along just therapy it works out logistically.
Doesn’t matter if he forgot or not they were gonna get replaced anyway. That industry was dead weight anyway. It provided no skill to do it, and yet made u work as if u weren’t supposed to eat or sleep. It was a sh*t industry and it never should have existed. So it shouldn’t even be brought up, due too how inevitable it’s failure was.
@@TheReal_ist I wouldnt say it was inevitable that it failed just because it was terrible. If it werent for the driverless car it would have gone on forever.
And at the same time make things cheaper for a hundreds of millions of people.
I know a guy who bought a prime mover and made a lot of money hauling semi trailers around the country. In the future he could buy a prime mover and make a lot of money hauling semi trailers around the country without leaving his home.
I hope all cars will be self driving, ALL OF THEM!!
Imagine a world where car accidents almost never happen.
except whenever somebody hacks a car. Nothing like swapping out "accident" with "terrorism" to make folks chill
The state looks at your license like it's a privilege not a necessity..when in fact it's the other way around... So they use it to controll you in certain situations... This would stop alot of that
I guess then driving is going to be a big hobby.
It already is for classic car collectors. A multi-billion dollar industry world-wide. An old Ferrari GTO from 60's I think just went off at auction for many many millions. Try getting those folks into autonomous cars, they have the money to make you disappear without a trace, or have a bone saw taken to your arms and legs, whilst you're still alive!
Humans driving cars will eventually be banned as it's too unsafe, that's only if self driving cars aren't banned first after one gets programmed to use its sensors to crash into people and not avoid them.
@@tryhardfpv5351 Not eventually, but soon after. I predicts 5 years after the first level 4 car is available for public purchase, new manual cars will not be allowed to be sold for road use, and another 5 years they will not be allowed on the roads. Manual driving will be delegated to race tracks.
@@KimMilvang who's going to "not allow"? Maybe in communist countries (we are not there, yet).
@@tryhardfpv5351 Yes, I bet ISIS is interested in autonomous cars, as a "land cruise missile"! No need for a driver to mow down people walking on a bridge, eh? Remember London?
A self driving Car would be called "Autoauto". Or "Auto²"
I think Joestradamus is exactly right. Quatrain after quatrain, all correct! I also think millenials especially will get one and then have it earn money for them providing rides while they are at home pounding away on their keyboards (working from home). The extra money will pay for some sweet upgrades to their computers.
I hope you’re wrong, autonomy takes the fun out of driving a car 😕
Electric yes. Self driving: doubt it. The problem is really hard and might not be solvable no matter how many billions are spent.
J Drake well it’s really an infrastructure issue, once the infrastructure is there the problem becomes much more reliable.
Watching this after all these years is absolutely hilarious (and sad). News from the future. The technology was not there. Many of these companies and initiatives have completely failed or scoped way down. The most we have as of 2023 are 'beta programs' confined to specific roads, cities, and use cases (not sure if that really counts as level 4). And level 3.5 on Teslas.
The proliferation of 'level 2' features has been really useful though!
And unfortunately, electricity is still not nearly that affordable or useful.