Bulgaria did a lot in the first Balkan war and managed to defeat the Ottomans and gain a lot of territory so if the ottomans and Romanians didn't get involved they could have won
I just realized that Bulgaria and Germany have a lot in common. To give an example, people think that they could have won the second war that they started.
Aside from the politics, I personally love Bulgaria as a country, it has beautiful culture, food, people, nature and history, you shouldn't be sad to be from such a country
Bruh, Bulgaria and Serbia signed an official treaty for splitting Macedonia. They said that if it was possible an autonomous Macedonian state would be created, if not they'd split Vardar Macedonia in two - the contested southeastern part and the uncontested northwestern part. The latter would go to Serbia and the former would be given to Bulgaria. However, the treaty with Greece didn't discuss at all anything about the partition of Macedonia or any other territory. This here is one of the biggest diplomatic mistakes for Bulgaria. I forgot to add that Serbia Agreed to that partition of Macedonia in case they got a big part of Albania. The Austro-Hungarian demand for an independent Albania gave Serbia room for expansion only in Macedonia. Great video, tho.
Yea thus is the classic mindset of ''nationalists'' are bad so now i need to go full out the other side leading to supporting literaral porpaganda. You can see the same with VMRO, a Bulgarian organization being branded as simply Macedonian as if almost all of its leaders have not said they are bulgarians.
Cool, that means Bulgarai MUST have a copy of the signed documents, right? I mean - it would be pretty stupid if they didn't make a copy of the signed documents, right?
Even tho i am not a Bulgarian i can understand why you are disliking your own country, i kinda feel the same for mine. Keep up the good work, love from Turkey. 🇹🇷💜🇧🇬
For the Italian topic, I think the most realistic scenario is Austria-Hungary giving territorial concession (under German pressure), for Italy to remain neutral, with promises of French land+colonies when they win the war. Italy was very opposed to joining the war and if they were offered land for simply remaining neutral I think in any scenario they’d have gone for that
Well Spain in 1944 knew Germany was losing so decided to build up relations with the Allies. This eventually guaranteed Franco’s survivability since the UK defended him from US and French plans to overthrow him cause the UK believed communism could spread to Spain if the plan went ahead.
as a bulgarian, this looks like heaven... written on paper... by the way, your accent sounds like you're from bulgaria itself (i recognized it as soon as the video started)
Hi rewriting history! From🇷🇺( Nizhegorodskaya Oblast). Good alternative history of Bulgaria 🇧🇬. I wrote this yesterday in the stream in Russian in the form of English letters. I am subscribed to your channel.
Maybe in that alternative Russia would have recognised that all Slavic languages have old Bulgarian roots! Maybe they would apologise about creating the untrue term "Old church Slavonic". Love our big naughty son from your Slavic mother! 🇧🇬❤️🇷🇺☦️✝️
@@rewriting-historyboth! coins are always cool, and the multiple endings in my opinion is always a solid factor in alternate history as there are many instances where a desired result could come about through multiple different ways which creates different results. EX: Republicans winning the Spanish Civil War can occur with heavily increased Soviet or French intervention, each one would have a different result but the change of Republicans winning is still achieved, or if the Army of Africa is stuck in Morocco would have vast changes to Morocco and a Republican Spain in the late 1930s.
@rewriting-history it did gain the industrialized Silesia and if it got it's old borders back it would be poorer than it is now, so maybe it's for the best
Bro, you need to be proud of being Bulgarian, im not bulgarian, im rather a part of a minority in bulgaria, but im still proud of my country, nationalism is bad but patriotism is good
@@rewriting-history One day you will beg to move back to Bulgaria. I have been living 25 years in Canada, and there is no good reason to continue to live there over Bulgaria. You can be a zombie in switzerland if you want... but one day you will feel it.
Uncontrolled patriotism is just nationalism with a new coat of paint. Hating your country's past should be perfectly acceptable. I for one think that my nation's colonial history was a travesty that we fully deserve to be slammed and condemned for. Acting as if your nation has never done anything wrong ever is extremely bullheaded of you.
I watched the Livestream yesterday and because of that I already knew that this Video was comming this Day, I am Happy to see its over 17 minutes long.👍👍
If I'm not mistaken, there was an agreement between Serbia and Bulgaria that Vardar Macedonia would be divided between the two countries. The Treaty of Friendship signed in 1912 stipulated in the first two points that the two countries would provide military support to each other in the event that a third country (including the Great Powers) attacked. After Austria pressured Serbia and Greece to withdraw from Albania, and Bulgaria did not provide support, Serbia refused to withdraw the army from the liberated territories, demanding that the Russian emperor determine the division by arbitration. Bulgaria refused it and attacked its former allies. In the video, it was mentioned that Austria might support Serbia, but that is not a possible scenario at all. Since the change of dynasties in 1903, Serbia and Austria have had bad relations, and I think that a more likely scenario would be that Austria would allow Serbia to weaken in order to bring it under control more easily, especially because of the importance of the Moravian Corridor, which would connect Vienna with Thessaloniki and Istanbul by rail . All the best from Serbia!
Make an alternate history video where Bulgaria sends troops on the Danube in September 1944 to avert a Soviet takeover and achieve a Finish-style neutrality postwar.
There was no reason it could not happen. Bulgaria like Finland is too far sideways on the road between the USSR and Nazi Germany for us to matter in the grand scheme of things. Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Romania could not be saved as they stand exactly on the way of the Red Army and were bound to be occupied. For us however it was a whole different story. The Soviets came in here with 250K troops, while we crossed into Yugoslavia one month later with an army of half a million. No way would the Soviets wanna deal with a country that wasn‘t a direct threat and would not simply move on to Belgrade. I recommend reading Bulgaria: Stalin‘s military trophy to understand more of the negotiations to exit the war with the Western allies and how infested we were with traitors and foreign agents at the very top.
Actually if Ferdinand was not so obsessed with Istanbul and had allowed for more army to be sent to macedonia insted of at the ottoman capital than Bulgaria could of captured a lot more of macedonia
Again, depends on who you ask, history has been altered on both sides. Getting accurate information was hard and I still have some people to disagree with me.
If Ferdinand wasn't so confident and waited a bit or signed documents with the other countries, Bulgaria would have been united and everything would be better. But it what it is
You should’ve included Bulgaria reaching Istanbul in the First Balkan War. The Great powers were against it but had Bulgarians occupied it, they wouldn’t have negotiated for Macedonia at all.
@@rewriting-history love Bulgaria from Greece! Want to visit you one day! Everything is so cheap there I want to go to the Balkan Mountains of Pirin to the beaches of Varna! To Sofia! And even Philipoupolis! Oh sorry I meant "Plovdiv".
YES, I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS VIDEO FOR A WHILE! you are bulgarian after all and if i remember correctly, i requested you do such a video once edit: also i'm so confused, how could you not be a nationalist? you are literally from the balkans
Hope you enjoyed the video! I just don't think nationalism would get us anywhere. We're better of working together with each other rather than fighting each other
I love watching some of your map streams but it kinda bugs me the that russia doesn’t have russian Armenian after the russo turkish war of 1877 Pls fix it 🙏
2nd Balkan war was an ABSOLUTE Bulgarian BLUNDER, a 1vs 4 hoping to BLITZ (Balkans, AD 1913...) out 2 opponents and hoping to turn back and defend against other 2, what were they thinking?... Stripped Bulgaria from any flexibity to choose sides the next years..
Okay this is a very interesting scenario actually! I don't think that Bulgaria could defeat Greece and Serbia on its own, but it could very well cause the Great War to take a different path, if Austria intervened
This scenario is super unrealistic, but Bulgaria winning while at war against all of their neighbors is unrealistic enough, so I decided to make the video more interesting!
@@rewriting-history you did a great job dw about me nitpicking 😅 I just found Bulgaria forcing Greece to cede Crete to Turkey a little funny, as Crete had just broken free from the Ottoman Empire on its own like a decade later, and the Ottomans had no serious fleet to subdue it. It would probably free itself again later 😅
At the beginning of the second Balkan war, Serbia was losing to Bulgaria, but Greece was winning. Thus, Romania, taking advantage of the Greek victory over Bulgaria, entered the war on the side of the Greeks and the Serbs. The same technique was applied by the Ottoman Empire.
I feel the anti-nationalist sympathies, man. I'm British, my home nation spent so many decades squatting on the homes of many Africans and Indians and now we somehow have the sheer hypocritical gall to take a hostile stance towards foreigners ourselves without being apologetic for our historic subjugation of foreigners. We did worse to these people than they could ever do to us, the last thing us Brits should act like is a victim. Point is, I am never gonna judge you for anti-Bulgaria slander. I've slandered my nation too. We live in a free era where that shouldn't be a crime.
I personally think on the italy joining the final scenario war thing that Italy woukd probably join the central powers not because of Albania but because they can get former Italian lands in France like Savoy and Corsica.
I think you missed the 5 warnings prior to that where I say that this is unrealistic, I also didn't go for this option, I just suggested it. Still, thanks for the feedback!
@@rewriting-history you're right, sorry if I came off a little harsh, I really like your videos, I just have the tendency to write comments before watching the entire thing 😂 The idea to mix the Balkan Wars into the Great War was really interesting though and strategically it makes a lot of sense
Why not accept the fact that the population in Macedonia was Bulgarian, and should have been a part of Bulgaria? If you accept that fact, then you would have to accept that Bulgaria fighting for Macedonia was justified and Greece and Serbia going into Macedonia and torturing, and spreading propaganda and expelling Bulgarians, was not justified. I think if Macedonia was Bulgarian, Serbia wouldn't have so many problems, because Bulgaria might just support them! The problem is how the Serbians handled taking over Macedonia... they did it the worst way possible, and later the communists put the nail in the coffin. Then Greece wouldn't have to have disputes about Macedonian history...
6:14 however in reality the Bulgarians had much less artillery and weren't as well equipped. Greece on its own was winning and reached Dedeagac and Kresna. Serbia and Greece were winning on their own historically, before Romania and the Ottomans joined
@@rewriting-history I think the most interesting scenario, which was also very well possible, was Austria intervening against Bulgaria, causing Russia to attack them, resulting in the Great War. I'm almost certain that in this case, Italy would join the Entente. The British would blockade Greece and quickly force it to submission (which could lead to an interesting Greek parallel of the "stab in the back" myth, against the monarchists, republicans and communists, similar to that of the Third Reich). For the same reasons as in our world, the Entente would most likely win, and Bulgaria would gain most of Macedonia, Albania would gain Kosovo, the Ottomans might gain the Aegean islands, the rest of Europe would be similar to our reality. I'd love to see a WW2 for this, as this time, Germany wouldn't have Italy on its side, but instead a string of Balkan and perhaps Austro-Hungarian rump states, possibly with the addition of whatever happens in Russia, with the Bolsheviks not coming to power. It would make for a really interesting scenario
In Greece was winning all the way up to the battle of Kresna in which Bulgarians almost encircled the whole Greek army. Meanwhile Serbia's main army was stopped at Kalimanci and didn't advance for the end of the war. This all happened just 1 week before the armistice so if not for Romania and Ottomans, Bulgaria would still have won. The whole reason why Bulgaria was losing so bad was because just 3 days after the start of the war, the commander in chief of the army ordered all actions on the front to be halted in order to not escalate the situation further. Combine this with bad military planning and their under impressioning of Serbia and Greece' army capabilities you can see why they lost. But in reality in this scenario 2v1, they w ould have With very, very hard efforts won
My apologies, but werent there treaties between Serbia and Bulgaria about the Macedonian lands before the 1st balkan war kicked in? How come there only be a "verbal agreement" that "if Bulgaria gets to Skopje first, it's theirs"?
Bulgaria would get most of north Macedonia if Serbia got Albania except north Epirus who would go to greece thus not making claims on Bulgarian aegean lands
Ok, and what about a video on the scenario where it never happens. The Great Powers don’t force Albania into the deal(meaning Greece and Serbia both get more land from them and are thus less forceful about Macedonia), and the Bulgarians do better and take the cities first with their allies more tied down.
Maybe Bulgaria remains out of WW1, but still they would get invaded by Germany in WW2. When communism comes the lands can be partitioned and we would still get the historical borders, but maybe slightly larger
But if the way the reactions happens is that russia declared war on austria before austria declared war on russia it means that the triple aliance pact with italy would take effect since irl argument of italy was that it was austria that started the war and the allience only called for multual defense In that case italy would also have to join the central powers
I wish Macedonia went to Bulgaria and got autonomy. Bulgaria spread Macedonism when the Macedonian identity was being destroyed. We could have all been part of a Yugoslavia, we could have all been friends. 😔
@@unknown12367There was never a point where all the Slavs of Macedonia called themselves Bulgarian. They thought of themselves as Orthodox people from Macedonia, not Bulgarian.
@@rewriting-history In what way were we never great? We were such a glorious and strong country in the past. This is common sense, it's taugh in school.
As a Bulgarian man myself, I agree that we were promised Thessaloniki and Skopje, but that’s not because I’m Ultra-Nationalist (even though I am) I think that possibly a shared occupation of the cities could’ve worked out
The agreement between Bulgaria and Serbia about the splitting of Macedonia absolutely was an official treaty. The one with Greece was verbal. This is not a nationalistic statement or whatever you want to call it - it's just history. What sources did you use on that topic?
The war wasn't started because of a verbal agreement, quite the opposite. The war was started because Serbia and Bulgaria made a written agreement to split Macedonia in 2. With the Bulgarians getting the Southern bit, all the way to Ohrid. And the Serbs getting Skopje and other bits. The Serbs walked back on the agreement, which is what provoked Ferdinand.
The Bulgarians went crazy after the euphoria triggered by winning the 1st Balkan war, that's why they started the 2nd Balkan war. They started to believe that the 3rd Bulgarian Empire will happen.
I think in the last part u said I feel like Germany would probably and maybe win as they do not have a long term front in the Balkans against the Greeks and Yugoslavs giving more infantry in the eastern front but I think they’d probably still lose which might lead to a little bit larger Austria and Hungary
Great in terms of what? Taking 100 years to build a highway or being the least corrupt in Europe? Don't get me wrong, Bulgaria is not bad and it's decent, but I want to live in the top 10 countries in the world, as I'm young and able to move there.
A bit of misinformation regarding the video mate. When it comes to the agreement between Bulgaria and Serbia, the first negotiations to take place, there actually was a solution to the territorial dispute about who gets what after the war. Bulgaria was promised a big chunk of Macedonia, although it didn't get any, but even in that scenario, the deal was to involve the Russians, letting them resolve the tensions. After the war, however, Serbia did not cooperate, leading to the eventual declaration of war on Bulgaria's part. But what about Greece? There wasn't any formal agreement with the Greeks and Bulgarians, whoever occupies the land, keeps the land - simple as that. Now, when it comes to the beginning of the second Balkan War, the alliance between Greece and Serbia was not as "public" as you made it out to be. It was a secret pact - an anti-Bulgarian pact, because the countries knew what a threat Bulgaria was and that they have stolen their rightful lands. So, when the Bulgarians tried to get the land that was initially promised to them from Serbia, Greece joined the war against Bulgaria - later followed by the Ottoman Empire and Romania, grabbing the opportunity and get some land out of Bulgaria.
The verbal agreemnt was only for Thessaloniki. We had a signed treaty by our diplomat Ivan Geshov and a serbian minister (a diplomatic miracle) that provided us all the Macedonian land where Bulgarians predominantly lived (90% of it). Read the book "The Balkan Alliance/Balkanskiat saiuz"
Subscribe if Bulgaria totally had a real chance at winning the Second Balkan War!
Bulgaria did a lot in the first Balkan war and managed to defeat the Ottomans and gain a lot of territory so if the ottomans and Romanians didn't get involved they could have won
I just realized that Bulgaria and Germany have a lot in common. To give an example, people think that they could have won the second war that they started.
@@SmearFrameDude Bulgaria is 'Prussia of the Balkans'
Nah, it didn't 😂
Still subbed
I love your videos 🇧🇬
A Balkan man that is not an ultra nationalist? Impossible!
Yeah, we exist. I'm super pacifist and would hopefully move to Switzerland next year!
@@rewriting-history If only 1. Bosnia had been given to Serbia in 1880, 2. The Balkan League joined Italy in 1911.
@@rewriting-history aye i wish the best for you
go against the stereotypes and try finding one in Russia (you ain't)
@@rewriting-historyliar
Love bulgaria from germany🇩🇪❤️🇧🇬 We share the same tragic history 😢
Losing both world wars? Next time is the charm, right? :D
@@rewriting-historyWHA-💀😭
Us hungarians too 🇭🇺❤️🇩🇪🇧🇬
@@rewriting-historyas a bulgarian thanks😄 wait a min
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY TH-
@@rewriting-historyLOL
Balkans in a nutshell:
first Balkan war🇧🇬🇲🇪🇷🇸 🇬🇷 ⚔️ 🇹🇷 second Balkan war🇹🇷🇲🇪🇷🇸🇷🇴🇬🇷⚔️🇧🇬
WW1:🇧🇬🇹🇷⚔️🇬🇷🇷🇴🇲🇪🇷🇸
WW2:🇷🇴🇧🇬⚔️🇬🇷🇷🇸🇹🇷
Average day in the balkans
Bulgarian's army achievements: 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Bulgarian's diplomacy: 💩💩💩
Romania's army achievements: 😕😕😕
Romania's diplomacy: 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Turkey was in the Allies during WW2 (it joined near the end of the conflict in 1945)
@@rewriting-history
Romania was for the Entente in World War I, but it lost. In World War II, Romania already supported the Germans, but lost again.
Technically Turkey entered ww2 when Bulgaria had already switched sides
the balkans seems to be a strange game, where the only wining move is not to play
internet in a nutshell
I honestly really love the outcome of this scenario, the idea of switched roles is honestly fascinating.
Really glad that you enjoyed it!
I may not be Bulgarian but this is a great video for the Bulgarians and a great video to watch 🇷🇴👍
I appreciate that and I'm glad that you liked it!
Bro has the typical Bulgarian accent 👍👍 amazing video✌
Thanks! 😃
I love his accent. I wish I had that accent
Aside from the politics, I personally love Bulgaria as a country, it has beautiful culture, food, people, nature and history, you shouldn't be sad to be from such a country
Bruh, Bulgaria and Serbia signed an official treaty for splitting Macedonia. They said that if it was possible an autonomous Macedonian state would be created, if not they'd split Vardar Macedonia in two - the contested southeastern part and the uncontested northwestern part. The latter would go to Serbia and the former would be given to Bulgaria. However, the treaty with Greece didn't discuss at all anything about the partition of Macedonia or any other territory. This here is one of the biggest diplomatic mistakes for Bulgaria.
I forgot to add that Serbia Agreed to that partition of Macedonia in case they got a big part of Albania. The Austro-Hungarian demand for an independent Albania gave Serbia room for expansion only in Macedonia.
Great video, tho.
Yea thus is the classic mindset of ''nationalists'' are bad so now i need to go full out the other side leading to supporting literaral porpaganda.
You can see the same with VMRO, a Bulgarian organization being branded as simply Macedonian as if almost all of its leaders have not said they are bulgarians.
@@mcsroom8930macedonian doesnt exist, everyone knows vmro is bulgarian especially serbians know this
Austria is the real bad guy in this story
@@guitarstring109 in the Grand scheme of things, yes
Cool, that means Bulgarai MUST have a copy of the signed documents, right?
I mean - it would be pretty stupid if they didn't make a copy of the signed documents, right?
Third Bulgarian Empire 🇧🇬💪
We did it!
Even tho i am not a Bulgarian i can understand why you are disliking your own country, i kinda feel the same for mine.
Keep up the good work, love from Turkey. 🇹🇷💜🇧🇬
Glad that you liked it! Love to Turkey from Bulgaria, would love to visit soon!
For the Italian topic, I think the most realistic scenario is Austria-Hungary giving territorial concession (under German pressure), for Italy to remain neutral, with promises of French land+colonies when they win the war. Italy was very opposed to joining the war and if they were offered land for simply remaining neutral I think in any scenario they’d have gone for that
Great video man, I can remember your earlier videos. Quality has gone up!
Glad you like them! I will always strive to make better videos, one of the next ones will be kind of in the style of oversimplified
What If Spain 🇪🇸 joined the Allies in WW2
Spain was facist tho?😭🙏
Yes, I will do a lot of these mini-scenarios in the future
don't you mean axis?
Maybe if the republicans won the civil war
Well Spain in 1944 knew Germany was losing so decided to build up relations with the Allies. This eventually guaranteed Franco’s survivability since the UK defended him from US and French plans to overthrow him cause the UK believed communism could spread to Spain if the plan went ahead.
as a bulgarian, this looks like heaven... written on paper...
by the way, your accent sounds like you're from bulgaria itself (i recognized it as soon as the video started)
Yes I'm very much Bulgarian
Hi rewriting history! From🇷🇺( Nizhegorodskaya Oblast). Good alternative history of Bulgaria 🇧🇬. I wrote this yesterday in the stream in Russian in the form of English letters. I am subscribed to your channel.
Maybe in that alternative Russia would have recognised that all Slavic languages have old Bulgarian roots! Maybe they would apologise about creating the untrue term "Old church Slavonic". Love our big naughty son from your Slavic mother! 🇧🇬❤️🇷🇺☦️✝️
@@RosTheXD Thank you Bulgarian brother! 😄
Do you mean the Nizhny Novgorod oblast?
@@isaakasimov2456 Yeah 🙂
Why did you feel the need to tell which region of the swamp empire you come from?
I don't know if it's your accent or your just your voice in general but there's something calming to listening to your videos
keep up the great work!!
Wow, thank you! I have heard that a couple of times so it must be true!
@@rewriting-history Is it your accent or your voice in general?^^
@@Ivan-yo3dn yes I know he said that he's Bulgarian, which is why I wondered if it's an accent or just the actual sound of his voice
This is definitely one of your best Alternate History videos!
I really appreciate that! Is it because of the coins or the multiple endings?
@@rewriting-historyboth! coins are always cool, and the multiple endings in my opinion is always a solid factor in alternate history as there are many instances where a desired result could come about through multiple different ways which creates different results. EX: Republicans winning the Spanish Civil War can occur with heavily increased Soviet or French intervention, each one would have a different result but the change of Republicans winning is still achieved, or if the Army of Africa is stuck in Morocco would have vast changes to Morocco and a Republican Spain in the late 1930s.
Fun fact: Bulgaria wad the only Axis country to GAIN territory after World War 2
And Poland to win a war but lose land
No shit
Greece winning too have done the attack on north epirus successfully after losing but allies win and they just give us only the rhodes islands
@rewriting-history it did gain the industrialized Silesia and if it got it's old borders back it would be poorer than it is now, so maybe it's for the best
Love your content! Keep up the good work ❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much!
Bro, you need to be proud of being Bulgarian, im not bulgarian, im rather a part of a minority in bulgaria, but im still proud of my country, nationalism is bad but patriotism is good
People on youtube often confuse nationalism and patriotism. I feel like it's only acceptable to be an american patriot online
@@rewriting-history One day you will beg to move back to Bulgaria. I have been living 25 years in Canada, and there is no good reason to continue to live there over Bulgaria. You can be a zombie in switzerland if you want... but one day you will feel it.
Uncontrolled patriotism is just nationalism with a new coat of paint. Hating your country's past should be perfectly acceptable. I for one think that my nation's colonial history was a travesty that we fully deserve to be slammed and condemned for. Acting as if your nation has never done anything wrong ever is extremely bullheaded of you.
NAtionalism can be good. Its not all baf
Nationalism is good. But ultranationalism is terrible. Nationalists love and root for their nation. But ultranationalists will like kill for it.
I watched the Livestream yesterday and because of that I already knew that this Video was comming this Day, I am Happy to see its over 17 minutes long.👍👍
Hope you enjoyed it! I will also livestream today, but I don't have any interesting idea to reveal this time. :D
I never realized that that Montenegro was apart of the Second Balkan war
I never did too, but apparently they were lol
Montenegro didn't realize either, lul.
I am not even bulgarian by blood but i am still a bulgarian nationalist, you hating ur bulgaria is so weird for me.
You have not lived here to understand that. I'm mostly understood by fellow Bulgarians
@@rewriting-history I was born here, my parents are just not bulgarian but they also lived here a long time
But I like bulgaria, idk why would people hate on it when it's recent history has just been unfair towards it.
@@rewriting-historyОбичам Родината мразя Държавата дано ме разбираш.
@@rewriting-history bulgaria its not bad for living
Great video!
Really glad that you liked it!
@@rewriting-historyЗащо братко, защо се срамуваш от отечеството си?
@@dobrinmarinov2267 beirdo
@@TopatTom you American?
Yeaaaah new video and about Bulgaria which i really like
I really love to see that!
@@rewriting-history No problem, i am waiting for next video
Great video! You made me sad that we didn't win!
No need to be sad, the Bulgarian corrupt politicians would ruin anything either way :D
If I'm not mistaken, there was an agreement between Serbia and Bulgaria that Vardar Macedonia would be divided between the two countries. The Treaty of Friendship signed in 1912 stipulated in the first two points that the two countries would provide military support to each other in the event that a third country (including the Great Powers) attacked. After Austria pressured Serbia and Greece to withdraw from Albania, and Bulgaria did not provide support, Serbia refused to withdraw the army from the liberated territories, demanding that the Russian emperor determine the division by arbitration. Bulgaria refused it and attacked its former allies. In the video, it was mentioned that Austria might support Serbia, but that is not a possible scenario at all. Since the change of dynasties in 1903, Serbia and Austria have had bad relations, and I think that a more likely scenario would be that Austria would allow Serbia to weaken in order to bring it under control more easily, especially because of the importance of the Moravian Corridor, which would connect Vienna with Thessaloniki and Istanbul by rail .
All the best from Serbia!
Make an alternate history video where Bulgaria sends troops on the Danube in September 1944 to avert a Soviet takeover and achieve a Finish-style neutrality postwar.
I like that one, will make it into a short
There was no reason it could not happen. Bulgaria like Finland is too far sideways on the road between the USSR and Nazi Germany for us to matter in the grand scheme of things. Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Romania could not be saved as they stand exactly on the way of the Red Army and were bound to be occupied. For us however it was a whole different story.
The Soviets came in here with 250K troops, while we crossed into Yugoslavia one month later with an army of half a million. No way would the Soviets wanna deal with a country that wasn‘t a direct threat and would not simply move on to Belgrade.
I recommend reading Bulgaria: Stalin‘s military trophy to understand more of the negotiations to exit the war with the Western allies and how infested we were with traitors and foreign agents at the very top.
Actually if Ferdinand was not so obsessed with Istanbul and had allowed for more army to be sent to macedonia insted of at the ottoman capital than Bulgaria could of captured a lot more of macedonia
Love Bulgaria from France 🇨🇵❤️🔥🇧🇬
Love to France from Bulgaria, would love to visit your country soon!
Just got done editing a compilation to see a new rewriting history vid for me at 5 am!
Nice! I hope you remember to watch it tomorrow!
@@rewriting-history oh no I already watched it after I got done with my halo edits
Hubavo klipche brat!
There was a formal agreement between Bulgaria and Serbia that promised some lands that the Serbs took after the first balkan war anyway
Again, depends on who you ask, history has been altered on both sides. Getting accurate information was hard and I still have some people to disagree with me.
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If Ferdinand wasn't so confident and waited a bit or signed documents with the other countries, Bulgaria would have been united and everything would be better.
But it what it is
We messed up, but we were still on track to lose both world wars, so I don't think anything is changed
I love your vids bro keep going❤🎉
We need a part 2!
For the cold war? Could be cool!
You should’ve included Bulgaria reaching Istanbul in the First Balkan War. The Great powers were against it but had Bulgarians occupied it, they wouldn’t have negotiated for Macedonia at all.
много готино видео!!!😃
Много благодаря, радвам се, че ти хареса!
Oh yes Bulgaria. The country with the less corruption and the most stable governments in Europe!
We have 0 corruption as of now, come to Bulgaria! :D
@@rewriting-history yeah and you definetely have a goverment! :D
@@rewriting-history love Bulgaria from Greece! Want to visit you one day! Everything is so cheap there I want to go to the Balkan Mountains of Pirin to the beaches of Varna! To Sofia! And even Philipoupolis! Oh sorry I meant "Plovdiv".
@@stephmod7434bro greece aint much better rn😭🙏
@@stephmod7434U wanna move to Tsarigrad oops Istanbul:D
Aw man... I love bulgaria... I'm also from there
I'm sorry, get well soon!
@@rewriting-historyBro what..?
Very nice video.
Thank you very much!
Good video
It just dropped 3 minutes ago, but I'm glad you liked it so far!
From Bulgaria, awesome vid
I'm glad that you liked it, my friend!
YES, I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS VIDEO FOR A WHILE! you are bulgarian after all and if i remember correctly, i requested you do such a video once
edit: also i'm so confused, how could you not be a nationalist? you are literally from the balkans
Hope you enjoyed the video! I just don't think nationalism would get us anywhere. We're better of working together with each other rather than fighting each other
@@rewriting-history ok, interesting
Love you're vids too
I really appreciate that!
I love watching some of your map streams but it kinda bugs me the that russia doesn’t have russian Armenian after the russo turkish war of 1877
Pls fix it 🙏
LOL this is the most minor detail in my map that is missing, nobody has even noticed it up until now
2nd Balkan war was an ABSOLUTE Bulgarian BLUNDER, a 1vs 4 hoping to BLITZ (Balkans, AD 1913...) out 2 opponents and hoping to turn back and defend against other 2, what were they thinking?... Stripped Bulgaria from any flexibity to choose sides the next years..
I'm Bulgarian and I agree. There should have been more negotiation and less throwing of common folk's lives under the bus.
good video!
Glad you enjoyed it, Chase!
Okay this is a very interesting scenario actually! I don't think that Bulgaria could defeat Greece and Serbia on its own, but it could very well cause the Great War to take a different path, if Austria intervened
This scenario is super unrealistic, but Bulgaria winning while at war against all of their neighbors is unrealistic enough, so I decided to make the video more interesting!
@@rewriting-history you did a great job dw about me nitpicking 😅 I just found Bulgaria forcing Greece to cede Crete to Turkey a little funny, as Crete had just broken free from the Ottoman Empire on its own like a decade later, and the Ottomans had no serious fleet to subdue it. It would probably free itself again later 😅
3:47 I have a massive coin collection
You should start a youtube channel about it! People are interested!
Много яко видео
Много благодаря, оценявам го!
Bulgaria focused on the Adrianople front, that's why we were so weak on the Macedonian front
They did try to capture Constantinople, which almost worked. I can make another video where Bulgaria succeeds, which is even more interesting.
@@rewriting-history almost worked?
At the beginning of the second Balkan war, Serbia was losing to Bulgaria, but Greece was winning. Thus, Romania, taking advantage of the Greek victory over Bulgaria, entered the war on the side of the Greeks and the Serbs. The same technique was applied by the Ottoman Empire.
But saying "just win against Greece" is objectively a worse point of divergence than what I did.
Least nationalist Bulgarian citizen be like:
Yeah lol
I feel the anti-nationalist sympathies, man. I'm British, my home nation spent so many decades squatting on the homes of many Africans and Indians and now we somehow have the sheer hypocritical gall to take a hostile stance towards foreigners ourselves without being apologetic for our historic subjugation of foreigners. We did worse to these people than they could ever do to us, the last thing us Brits should act like is a victim.
Point is, I am never gonna judge you for anti-Bulgaria slander. I've slandered my nation too. We live in a free era where that shouldn't be a crime.
Appreciate the understanding
I LOVE YOUR COINS COLLECTION
I appreciate that, I will show more coins in the future!
I love your history content, its very entertaining compared to other history channels
I personally think on the italy joining the final scenario war thing that Italy woukd probably join the central powers not because of Albania but because they can get former Italian lands in France like Savoy and Corsica.
But that is true for every scenario, not just this one
bulgaria winning a war on all of their borders is insane
It is, but that's the narrative of the video lol
6:47 this is 100% impossible, neither Bulgaria not Crete had the naval capacity to reach Crete, which had just broken free a decade prior.
I think you missed the 5 warnings prior to that where I say that this is unrealistic, I also didn't go for this option, I just suggested it. Still, thanks for the feedback!
@@rewriting-history you're right, sorry if I came off a little harsh, I really like your videos, I just have the tendency to write comments before watching the entire thing 😂 The idea to mix the Balkan Wars into the Great War was really interesting though and strategically it makes a lot of sense
I like ur accent bro. I know a few Bulgarians. They are good people
I appreciate that, glad you liked it!
Rewriting History: Central Powers are the winning side.
Also Rewriting History: Italy would join the Entente.
Italy I think would still claim the Austrian lands no matter what
Day 2 of asking for what if Albania and Somalia united into one country in 2007
Again, no
Nice analysis are you bulgarian?
To understand the balkans - 0:56
Yeah lol
Why not accept the fact that the population in Macedonia was Bulgarian, and should have been a part of Bulgaria? If you accept that fact, then you would have to accept that Bulgaria fighting for Macedonia was justified and Greece and Serbia going into Macedonia and torturing, and spreading propaganda and expelling Bulgarians, was not justified.
I think if Macedonia was Bulgarian, Serbia wouldn't have so many problems, because Bulgaria might just support them! The problem is how the Serbians handled taking over Macedonia... they did it the worst way possible, and later the communists put the nail in the coffin. Then Greece wouldn't have to have disputes about Macedonian history...
6:14 however in reality the Bulgarians had much less artillery and weren't as well equipped. Greece on its own was winning and reached Dedeagac and Kresna. Serbia and Greece were winning on their own historically, before Romania and the Ottomans joined
Well then Bulgaria still loses, so I have to do something for them to win somehow
@@rewriting-history I think the most interesting scenario, which was also very well possible, was Austria intervening against Bulgaria, causing Russia to attack them, resulting in the Great War. I'm almost certain that in this case, Italy would join the Entente. The British would blockade Greece and quickly force it to submission (which could lead to an interesting Greek parallel of the "stab in the back" myth, against the monarchists, republicans and communists, similar to that of the Third Reich). For the same reasons as in our world, the Entente would most likely win, and Bulgaria would gain most of Macedonia, Albania would gain Kosovo, the Ottomans might gain the Aegean islands, the rest of Europe would be similar to our reality. I'd love to see a WW2 for this, as this time, Germany wouldn't have Italy on its side, but instead a string of Balkan and perhaps Austro-Hungarian rump states, possibly with the addition of whatever happens in Russia, with the Bolsheviks not coming to power. It would make for a really interesting scenario
In Greece was winning all the way up to the battle of Kresna in which Bulgarians almost encircled the whole Greek army. Meanwhile Serbia's main army was stopped at Kalimanci and didn't advance for the end of the war. This all happened just 1 week before the armistice so if not for Romania and Ottomans, Bulgaria would still have won.
The whole reason why Bulgaria was losing so bad was because just 3 days after the start of the war, the commander in chief of the army ordered all actions on the front to be halted in order to not escalate the situation further. Combine this with bad military planning and their under impressioning of Serbia and Greece' army capabilities you can see why they lost. But in reality in this scenario 2v1, they w ould have With very, very hard efforts won
My apologies, but werent there treaties between Serbia and Bulgaria about the Macedonian lands before the 1st balkan war kicked in? How come there only be a "verbal agreement" that "if Bulgaria gets to Skopje first, it's theirs"?
Bulgaria would get most of north Macedonia if Serbia got Albania except north Epirus who would go to greece thus not making claims on Bulgarian aegean lands
Bulgaria Stronk 💪
Bulgaria really thought they could do a Napoleon. But this time it works neat.
Bulgaria this time pulled a Napoleon lol
As a French, I think I love Bulgaria more than you do lmao
I hear that very often lol
Ok, and what about a video on the scenario where it never happens.
The Great Powers don’t force Albania into the deal(meaning Greece and Serbia both get more land from them and are thus less forceful about Macedonia), and the Bulgarians do better and take the cities first with their allies more tied down.
Maybe Bulgaria remains out of WW1, but still they would get invaded by Germany in WW2. When communism comes the lands can be partitioned and we would still get the historical borders, but maybe slightly larger
But if the way the reactions happens is that russia declared war on austria before austria declared war on russia it means that the triple aliance pact with italy would take effect since irl argument of italy was that it was austria that started the war and the allience only called for multual defense
In that case italy would also have to join the central powers
Good video what if the ottomans won first Balkan war
I already have that video, it's my second ever video made, quite an old one
based Bulgarian W
Bulgaria big
I wish Macedonia went to Bulgaria and got autonomy. Bulgaria spread Macedonism when the Macedonian identity was being destroyed. We could have all been part of a Yugoslavia, we could have all been friends. 😔
There's no such ethnicity as Macedonian y'all are Bulgarians
@@unknown12367 Different DNA, different language, different origin, different name.
@@unknown12367There was never a point where all the Slavs of Macedonia called themselves Bulgarian. They thought of themselves as Orthodox people from Macedonia, not Bulgarian.
@@bunk_foss they where Bulgarians. There's no ethnicity such as Macedonian. Macedonia is in Greece, the place you're talking about is Vardarska
@@bunk_foss same dna, same language, same origin different name. That's the truth.
Какво означава ,,за жалост съм от българия".
По-горе обясни, че искал да живее в 10 държави в света
Топ 10*
@@vilimihova8773 Смисъл?
@@vilimihova8773Тъжно. Отрича се от родината си.
why don’t you like bulgaria is it because of history or the government? personally just i love bulgarian history as it fascinates me so much.
Least Bulgarian nationalist:
A Bulgarian making Bulgaria great again.
We were never great to make them great again, but this scenario has been highly requested, even yesterday I was suggested to do it on a livestream
@@rewriting-history In what way were we never great? We were such a glorious and strong country in the past. This is common sense, it's taugh in school.
Haven't heard so much Rrrrr in the morning
As a Bulgarian man myself, I agree that we were promised Thessaloniki and Skopje, but that’s not because I’m Ultra-Nationalist (even though I am)
I think that possibly a shared occupation of the cities could’ve worked out
There's no way on earth we were promised Thessaloniki.
This is a great video, with some wild twists(my fav is a Bulgarian that isnt an ultra nationalist) love from malta
The agreement between Bulgaria and Serbia about the splitting of Macedonia absolutely was an official treaty. The one with Greece was verbal. This is not a nationalistic statement or whatever you want to call it - it's just history. What sources did you use on that topic?
0:54 sounds a lot like RealLifeLore lmao
I am from Bulgaria too
Sorry bro, get well soon!
The war wasn't started because of a verbal agreement, quite the opposite. The war was started because Serbia and Bulgaria made a written agreement to split Macedonia in 2. With the Bulgarians getting the Southern bit, all the way to Ohrid. And the Serbs getting Skopje and other bits. The Serbs walked back on the agreement, which is what provoked Ferdinand.
The Bulgarians went crazy after the euphoria triggered by winning the 1st Balkan war, that's why they started the 2nd Balkan war. They started to believe that the 3rd Bulgarian Empire will happen.
I think in the last part u said I feel like Germany would probably and maybe win as they do not have a long term front in the Balkans against the Greeks and Yugoslavs giving more infantry in the eastern front but I think they’d probably still lose which might lead to a little bit larger Austria and Hungary
Could you tell me which languages do you speak?
I think I was speaking English in that video, but I may be wrong
@@rewriting-history no I mean how many languages can you speak?
Коя програма използваш за видеото?
Camtasia Studio
@@rewriting-history Мерси
Why dislike your home country, I'm Bulgarian myself and our nation is great
Great in terms of what? Taking 100 years to build a highway or being the least corrupt in Europe? Don't get me wrong, Bulgaria is not bad and it's decent, but I want to live in the top 10 countries in the world, as I'm young and able to move there.
@@rewriting-history what about the past, it is a Bulgarian who invented the computer
@@rewriting-historythen go there,we Bulgarians don’t want you here.
Привет Болгарии из России!
Greetings to Russia from Bulgaria!
A bit of misinformation regarding the video mate. When it comes to the agreement between Bulgaria and Serbia, the first negotiations to take place, there actually was a solution to the territorial dispute about who gets what after the war. Bulgaria was promised a big chunk of Macedonia, although it didn't get any, but even in that scenario, the deal was to involve the Russians, letting them resolve the tensions. After the war, however, Serbia did not cooperate, leading to the eventual declaration of war on Bulgaria's part. But what about Greece? There wasn't any formal agreement with the Greeks and Bulgarians, whoever occupies the land, keeps the land - simple as that. Now, when it comes to the beginning of the second Balkan War, the alliance between Greece and Serbia was not as "public" as you made it out to be. It was a secret pact - an anti-Bulgarian pact, because the countries knew what a threat Bulgaria was and that they have stolen their rightful lands. So, when the Bulgarians tried to get the land that was initially promised to them from Serbia, Greece joined the war against Bulgaria - later followed by the Ottoman Empire and Romania, grabbing the opportunity and get some land out of Bulgaria.
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The verbal agreemnt was only for Thessaloniki. We had a signed treaty by our diplomat Ivan Geshov and a serbian minister (a diplomatic miracle) that provided us all the Macedonian land where Bulgarians predominantly lived (90% of it). Read the book "The Balkan Alliance/Balkanskiat saiuz"
Bro almost had to add aliens to find a scenario where Bulgaria wins 😂