Hardly any aero or semi aero bike exists that actually hits the 6.8 kg UCI limit weight with deep(ish) section wheels and disc brakes (so what we all ride basically). Most likely your Tarmac sl7 with Roval Rapide CLX or Pinarello Dogma f with Princeton Carbonworks Wake 6560 or Cervelo S5 with Enve 5.6 or 6.7 or Canyon Aeroad with DTSwiss 1100 will be 7.15-7.5 kg. So reducing weight by quite a bit is very much still needed. You can go a bit lighter by using a super light saddle like Berk or Gelu and go super light chainrings like CarbonTi and THM crank, but that then turns a 14-15k bike into a 18-19k bike.
I have a V3Rs so I'm going to be a bit biased towards that bike but I do think the V3Rs is a better looking bike. The new one just looks like a Scott Addict RC to me and no longer has some of the Colnago frame shaping on the top tube. I hope we see a more standardized aero testing protocol soon because I struggle to believe that there is a near 20W saving. Similarly with the new Madone where it supposedly has a 15w saving but almost all of that was down to the narrower bars. Especially for their aero testing I imagine comparing the standard Colnago bar and stem to the new cockpit thats probably at least a 10W saving. Also the V3RS can take 30mm tyres if not a 32 at a push.
@@jackal6234 It looks way more like the Scott Addict Rc than the SL7. The shaping around the seat stays, seatpost shape, headset shaping. The sl7 has a much more slender aero profiles
Of those three, yes. Rarer than an SL7 and I've never liked the looks of the Dogma. But a Cervelo R5 would trump them all in my book. Just need a friendly bank manager.
I was blessed to be able to test ride both the SL7 SWORKS vs and V3RS to decide whether to buy an SL7 or V4RS. As a racer I put both bikes through cornering and sprint testing. Both bikes performed almost the same... The SL7 SWORKS took my crit test corner at 23-24+ mph and the 3VRS at 23-25+ mph. In an all out Sprint the 3VRS beat the SWORKS by 2 seconds on the exact same segment heading due West. Granted these rides were not on the same day, the SWORKS ride had a SW wind and the 3VRS ride had a W wind. My sprint segment is directly W which in my opinion says quite a bit for the non aero V3RS Colnago. Assioma Favero DUO Power: Standing power SL7 SWORKS: AVG - 270W - MAX - 909W Standing power V3RS: AVG - 225W - MAX - 957W Seated power SL7 SWORKS: MAX - 684W - AVG 183W due to cool down Seated power V3RS: MAX - 849W - AVG - 192W due to cool down I rode the V3RS yesterday and ordered my V4RS today, both bikes are great and I have had great experiences racing and riding both 2015 SL5 was my race bike last year and in 1996 I raced on a MasterXLight Team Mapie steel frame. With the SL8 coming out soon and the numbers from my personal testing I gave Colango the Win! Placed my order for a Black V4RS with SRAM Red, OPWS, Enve SES 4.5s and GP 5000s today.
What about a Rim brake version 🤔 Colnago always gives you that option, I have a v3rs rim brake version, after test riding the disk version the rim brake version rode better i found it to be much more responsive, agile and lighter it just rode better unfortunately we are forced to go disk which is a great shame it will be much expensive for routing servicing😪
I have two, I used to have three but I traded my sarroni Mexico in the early 90s. My EP still rides excellent after 15 years of ownership. Obviously, now fitted with a modern-day 11 speed ultegra groupset
@@paulwebster4499 could well be in the past te finishing was way better. They were known to be some of the best bikes out there for sure. Times change however. Plus: anybody should spend their money how they want!
Bike reviews are shite nowadays, “cArBoN LayUps”, ‘aErO”, “5% s1ff3r”. Anything on manufacturing quality? Tolerances? We know that the aero department is bullshit because the tubes are pretty much round.
Yes, massive hambini supporter, can't believe that people would accept anything other than top-notch QC when they are being asked to pay these stupid prices for framesets
Give me a freaking break with that price. Not to mention most people buying this unless on a team are going to ride this bike ridiculously slow. Just go vintage steel and use that money for a motorcycle or a down payment on a car heck even a house.
Don't be sad about it, beautiful history but you are basically being scammed that's how overpriced it is. Many specialist bike shops will tell you they are not finished well, just like Pinarello for example.
@@chrisvanbuggenum871 if you would like a well known brand, Giant, Merida and Canyon get you a lot of bike for the money. Otherwise, from the same factories, you could get UCI approved brands like Winspace, Elves and Light Bicycle. But I guess that's not your thing. I just ordered an 8bar as winter/gravel bike. Cool small brand from Berlin with nice prices.
In 2011 the Trek Madone 7.9 was already nearly $12000 That’s equivalent to $15000 today. You can get a mech Ultegra Canyon Ultimate CF for less than the inflation-adjusted price you could a decade ago, except you additionally get a decade’s worth of refinement. Next year an Apex AXS alloy road bike will probably come in around $2500.
@@dzrdza I have two pairs of windspace lum steel spoke rim brake wheels. A 60mm pair and a 45mm pair I managed to get both of them for 1100gbp delivered. No issues
there should be no problem from engineering stand point in creating ultimately most aerodynamic bike whitin uci rules, so why they dont do this? instead we'll see every year comming out new bike that is "10W faster than previous model" etc in artificial tests... Are people really so gullible to belive in this marketing BS
Hardly any aero or semi aero bike exists that actually hits the 6.8 kg UCI limit weight with deep(ish) section wheels and disc brakes (so what we all ride basically). Most likely your Tarmac sl7 with Roval Rapide CLX or Pinarello Dogma f with Princeton Carbonworks Wake 6560 or Cervelo S5 with Enve 5.6 or 6.7 or Canyon Aeroad with DTSwiss 1100 will be 7.15-7.5 kg. So reducing weight by quite a bit is very much still needed.
You can go a bit lighter by using a super light saddle like Berk or Gelu and go super light chainrings like CarbonTi and THM crank, but that then turns a 14-15k bike into a 18-19k bike.
Beautiful Colnago! Looking forward to seeing these out on the open road
Yep, stock brokers and barristers toys
I have a V3Rs so I'm going to be a bit biased towards that bike but I do think the V3Rs is a better looking bike. The new one just looks like a Scott Addict RC to me and no longer has some of the Colnago frame shaping on the top tube. I hope we see a more standardized aero testing protocol soon because I struggle to believe that there is a near 20W saving. Similarly with the new Madone where it supposedly has a 15w saving but almost all of that was down to the narrower bars. Especially for their aero testing I imagine comparing the standard Colnago bar and stem to the new cockpit thats probably at least a 10W saving. Also the V3RS can take 30mm tyres if not a 32 at a push.
Huh? V4rs looks like Scott addict? Ever see the tarmac sl7?
@@jackal6234 It looks way more like the Scott Addict Rc than the SL7. The shaping around the seat stays, seatpost shape, headset shaping. The sl7 has a much more slender aero profiles
Of those three, yes. Rarer than an SL7 and I've never liked the looks of the Dogma. But a Cervelo R5 would trump them all in my book. Just need a friendly bank manager.
Cervelo are on hambinis list. Unfortunately, not at the lick end
If appearances is all that matterss and not mechanical speed and aero, then get a motorcycle for the same price. A Ducati will grab all the bitches
I was blessed to be able to test ride both the SL7 SWORKS vs and V3RS to decide whether to buy an SL7 or V4RS. As a racer I put both bikes through cornering and sprint testing. Both bikes performed almost the same... The SL7 SWORKS took my crit test corner at 23-24+ mph and the 3VRS at 23-25+ mph. In an all out Sprint the 3VRS beat the SWORKS by 2 seconds on the exact same segment heading due West.
Granted these rides were not on the same day, the SWORKS ride had a SW wind and the 3VRS ride had a W wind. My sprint segment is directly W which in my opinion says quite a bit for the non aero V3RS Colnago.
Assioma Favero DUO Power:
Standing power SL7 SWORKS: AVG - 270W - MAX - 909W
Standing power V3RS: AVG - 225W - MAX - 957W
Seated power SL7 SWORKS: MAX - 684W - AVG 183W due to cool down
Seated power V3RS: MAX - 849W - AVG - 192W due to cool down
I rode the V3RS yesterday and ordered my V4RS today, both bikes are great and I have had great experiences racing and riding both 2015 SL5 was my race bike last year and in 1996 I raced on a MasterXLight Team Mapie steel frame.
With the SL8 coming out soon and the numbers from my personal testing I gave Colango the Win! Placed my order for a Black V4RS with SRAM Red, OPWS, Enve SES 4.5s and GP 5000s today.
V4rs is easily the better choice. The sl7 I believe is slower than the specialized venge vias
What about a Rim brake version 🤔 Colnago always gives you that option, I have a v3rs rim brake version, after test riding the disk version the rim brake version rode better i found it to be much more responsive, agile and lighter it just rode better unfortunately we are forced to go disk which is a great shame it will be much expensive for routing servicing😪
The stats on this bike is something out of Specialized marketing🤣🤣🤣
Bravo!
Watta bargain! Already ordered 2 of them and sold only 1 kidney, my hair and my kids.
Colnago. Great history, premium prices, cheap finishing.
I have two, I used to have three but I traded my sarroni Mexico in the early 90s.
My EP still rides excellent after 15 years of ownership. Obviously, now fitted with a modern-day 11 speed ultegra groupset
@@paulwebster4499 could well be in the past te finishing was way better. They were known to be some of the best bikes out there for sure. Times change however. Plus: anybody should spend their money how they want!
@@RepsacZ Yep, read the below comments not only me that thinks that a 15k bike is not for the masses
Cheap finish, have you looked at a C64 Mapei......
Congratulations you got Cycling Weekly to acknowledge it.😂
Despite the price tag, the NFT shenanigans would put me off.
What about rim brakes?
Can’t mention a SL7 in the same breath as a Colnago!
Bike reviews are shite nowadays, “cArBoN LayUps”, ‘aErO”, “5% s1ff3r”. Anything on manufacturing quality? Tolerances? We know that the aero department is bullshit because the tubes are pretty much round.
Manufacturing location? Warranty?
hard to do so if you dont have the bike, right?
@@philipb.1950 do you expect them to say anything else than the usual?
Yes, massive hambini supporter, can't believe that people would accept anything other than top-notch QC when they are being asked to pay these stupid prices for framesets
Should of kept campagnolo....proper Italian 🇮🇹
Give me a freaking break with that price. Not to mention most people buying this unless on a team are going to ride this bike ridiculously slow. Just go vintage steel and use that money for a motorcycle or a down payment on a car heck even a house.
I braced myself and guessed it would come in at 8000 Euros.
You realize that even Canyon bikes with Dura Ace are more expensive than that?
Nowadays that's mid-range pricing.
Just for context, the Trek Madone with 105 di2 is 8000€.
So there‘s that
Try double that
I’ll stick with vintage steel and new old stock parts lol
If i was in the market, which i may be in 12 months, i honestly wouldn't know what to buy. Sadly a Colnago is out of my budget.
Don't be sad about it, beautiful history but you are basically being scammed that's how overpriced it is.
Many specialist bike shops will tell you they are not finished well, just like Pinarello for example.
Just buy a Winspace T1500
@@MaceWanted Absolutely. Or SLC from the same manufacturer.
@@MaceWanted No.
@@chrisvanbuggenum871 if you would like a well known brand, Giant, Merida and Canyon get you a lot of bike for the money. Otherwise, from the same factories, you could get UCI approved brands like Winspace, Elves and Light Bicycle. But I guess that's not your thing.
I just ordered an 8bar as winter/gravel bike. Cool small brand from Berlin with nice prices.
All this is fantastic. However the UCI need to understand that there's a recession please lets not make cycling a toy for the rich.
Unfortunately I think it already is.
In 2011 the Trek Madone 7.9 was already nearly $12000 That’s equivalent to $15000 today. You can get a mech Ultegra Canyon Ultimate CF for less than the inflation-adjusted price you could a decade ago, except you additionally get a decade’s worth of refinement. Next year an Apex AXS alloy road bike will probably come in around $2500.
Check out Winspace then. Superb carbon layup, excellent characteristics, just not wearing Italian suit. Ah, yes, and it cost 1480$.
@@dzrdza I have two pairs of windspace lum steel spoke rim brake wheels. A 60mm pair and a 45mm pair I managed to get both of them for 1100gbp delivered. No issues
What has this to do with the UCI?
You forgot the most important thing: we can't afford one!
19 watts faster than the V3RS? bulllllllshit. That's the difference between a Cervelo R5 and the S5...
I will keep my F
there should be no problem from engineering stand point in creating ultimately most aerodynamic bike whitin uci rules, so why they dont do this? instead we'll see every year comming out new bike that is "10W faster than previous model" etc in artificial tests... Are people really so gullible to belive in this marketing BS
£ what a joke.
So, a review on a bike that how many of your 260K subscribers can afford?
1 thing you should know: dont buy cause it has a ripoff price tag.
Most boring looking Colnago ever and at £15k. Wtf is that new logo font? Looks so cheap.