"Obree still lives in his hometown in Scotland... rides for fun with his local cycling club...no longer gives interviews...still inspiring people worldwide to live beautiful, powerful, life."
Very true sir apart from "misunderstood by the establishment" the establishment understand very very well how men like this are a huge threat to there control system & that's why they alway make sure to not just remove them but to destroy them. Evil
It's absolutely insane (and baldly disingenuous) for anyone to suggest that Obree on his homemade $100 bike had any advantadge over the dudes on their $10,000 custom race bikes. Obree deserves ALL the credit that's his due.
the biomechanical advantage was MASSIVE. In January 1994 Francesco Moser, at age 43 1/2, 6 years after retiring, rode 51.840 km in Mexico City on the 10th anniversary of his 1984 records (50.808 and 51.151). Again: a fit, but long retired 43 1/2 year old went 700m farther than the 10 years younger self in his absolute prime, thanks to Obree's position.
"In the end he never truly made it into the world of pro cycling." ... Literally beat world class riders on a 100£ home made bike with almost no sponsors and support and set multiple world records. This truly shows once again that pro cycling is a sport controlled by the establishment. I love bikes and cycling but absolutely despise the sport and most people in it.
It's because a poor man who makes his own world beating bike for the price of a night down the pub is very embarrassing for a international bike company sponsor that spends millions on developing a winner bike. And as we are all well aware the bicycle governing bodies are well and truly in their pockets. Absolutely disgusting. I just hope they see this all these years later and feel utterly ashamed because they dam well should be.
Couldn't agree more. Athletics is also ruined by money. Football needless to say. I feel a bit sorry for Boardman, (not really).What a bloke Graham Obree is.
Yeah, by what measure did he NOT make it? He wore the rainbow jersey, he had several world records! He did more than the vast majority of those in the world of pro cycling!
The money behind cycling wanted him out. They can't push all their cycling products on the public after a guy using washing machine parts and a diy bike wins. Every field in this world is utter corrupt. Obree was a maverick. He was a man fighting against the big machine. What a hero.
A fantastic touch by Boardman, after Obree beat him in the Semis. He went straight to him and gave him his, much better, aero helmet, which Obree wore to victory.
His story breaks my heart. He was a pioneer, he truly pushed the sport forward with his ingenuity, but the establishment simply couldn't accept change. It's so sad how such a passionate man was shut down by politics.
@@petertherepeatermustard3231 Well yeah but thats the next video in auto play. So just chill till then hommie. Rampant corruption and greed can also break our hearts as well.
@@petertherepeatermustard3231 Mine too, but why did they go, should have stayed home. Without soldiers, the moneymen wouldn't be able to fight any wars, pitting man against man for no reason but money and death-loving.
@@petertherepeatermustard3231 Maybe we need an accurate metric of what constitutes a 'broken heart', then we can decide whether people who say something 'breaks their heart' are exaggerating for effect or not.
A working class hero is something to be. Can't get over the governing body's petulance at his innovation, ingenuity and his obvious athleticism. I really hope he's doing well these days and is aware of how many people genuinely love him.
The way the UCI were talking earlier in the documentary says it all - banned Obree and his style based on a pure 'slippery slope' fallacy rather than letting play continue and considering each new future development base on their merits when they happen. Obree is a hero for what he achieved back in his day. It's a shame that he only was afforded a single day by the powers that be.
This guy designed a bike that million $$$ companies couldn’t and they shut him down as he was making them look stupid. To be flexible is a skill that is trained, you still need the power in your legs! The guy is a hero and inspiration. UCI have and always will be out of touch
@Val O'Connell more to the point I think was that Obree didn't use drugs and was therefore a threat to the system setup to protect all the riders who were using drugs
then they banned it again. TBH if there's no governing body to decide what a bicycle we'd end up with bicycle record being on recumbent bike with fairing and ridden backwards like the current hour record. from there it's just about where you draw the line, it's always gonna be a compromise between how aerodynamic you can be while staying in control, keeping a position that is not too bad for the body, andnstill allows the most power for an hour . he was obviously a genius at pushing those limits and rules that were in effect at the time, and thankfully, rules have changed since. he played the game, won, and eventually lost.
Was a good friend of his eldest son at school back in 2004, met the man himself back in 2005 as well when I stayed over at his. A very lovely man who is highly intelligent too.
Love this guy. He used to fuel on jam sandwiches instead of scientific sports nutrition. He proved creativity, ability and will are the most phenomenal component in competing.
Amazing, like Usain Bolt breaking the world record at the olympics and admitting to journalists when asked what his diet was of eating Chicken Nuggets at the olympic village Macdonalds everyday.
@@geometron3646 no thats completely different. It shows that bolt is lazy and unprofessional, while obree is extremly dedicated but without the money so he searches for alternatives
I have never been into cycling and had no idea who Graeme was but I enjoyed this documentary, Im struck by the sportsmanship of both Obree and Boardman very nice to see
I don’t even have the slightest interest in anything to do with cycling, but DAMN this was an amazing underdog story. Didn’t have the money, had to build his own bike and kicked ass, well done Mr. O’bree, well done.
H.G. Wells once said "Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race" Graeme Obree renews my faith in the human race and the world is so much better for people like him being in it, thank you Graeme 🙏 Living legend ❤
I do like the comment, and I wouldn't want to take away from it - though I find it very ironic as h.g. wells was an extreme eugenicist, who thought there were a few too many people in the world! Maybe we'd be safer on a bike with someone like that dude around! At least on a bicycle, he may not have wanted to off you for the greater good!
I’m glad this was suggested to me as I would never have come across this amazing individual otherwise. Thanks for making such a well produced documentary about this amazing man.
I'm from Germany and the name Obree sounds simply majestic to me. A legend. And I really like the British TT stuff, in the Velodrome, the hill climbing stuff, great culture! Oh, and get rid of Truss asap!
@@jasemiester Of course, she is just that. But she is an extremely ugly tip. So much hatred in her face. She might be worse than this witch that shattered your country into ruins.
A German complaining about Truss ? Mmm How about you guys bin the green lobby? Trump warned you that relying on Russian oil was a bad idea. (You laughed at him ) You aren’t laughing now are you ?
So cool to see how Boardman finally gave in and couldn't even hide his amazement. "Graeme is just... awesome." A true sportsman. Respect and big ups for uploading this.
All I know about cycling is pretty much that Lance guy and PEDs etc. but I clicked on a video the other day about 'banned positions' since I was bored and it was a quick, sub 5min, mental distraction. They covered these two positions and I wondered why they were 'banned' but thought nothing else of it. Now this mini-doc popped up and I decided to trust the algorithm and figured it would at least add some context to what I had watched previously - I did not expect to be so captivated and learn about such an amazing story/man/journey. Truly inspiring.
Absolutely a Scottish hero!!!!!, Humbling to see a working family man take on the establishment and win!!!! Well done Graham, you are an inspiration for every budding enthusiast of any genre of sport, I have read your Biography and brought me to tears of how hard you worked to obtain your dreams!!!!, Work hard, believe, try, and FIGHT for it!!!!
Absolute Genius and nice guy , had the great privilege of meeting him many times during club Time Trial races in the early 90s, tragic the governing body would not accept it . Forever a champion in Scotland who Inspired the normal club cyclist.🚴🏻💪🏴
Thanks for uploading this. I watched the drama-documentary "The Flying Scotsman" about Graeme which is excellent. The cycling hierarchy treated him disgracefully yet each time Graeme fought back. His bike was made up from old washing machine parts .....and authorities don't like people who do that. Especially when they blow the competition away that rides sponsored bikes costing thousands!
Well done to the filmmakers on this one. I make docs myself and was hooked from the 1st minute. Might just be the best short-form doc I've seen. Beautifully constructed. And Obree is a fooking legend!
The sheer force of will of this guy is incredible. Lucky enough to meet him at events a couple of times. A real joy to listen to. Inspiring approach to TT’ing
Genius and pioneer. Most pioneers are treated like mad men initially. The cycling establishment look like spoilt brats, bullies who make up the rules to suit the situation.
How much divergence from the traditional riding position and bike geometry do you allow though? Making up rules to suit the situation is how the world works. While Obree got a pretty raw deal, the UCI's position is understandable.
The argument that it is the man and not the bike is a fairly hollow one. Bike development had taken off using modern materials like carbon fibre at that time.. each team gaining an advantage to some degree depending on how their bike was tweaked. What the UCI we’re actually dating without knowing it was that everyone should have an identical bike.. why not a butchers bike with 3 packets of sausages in the basket? Utterly shameful treatment of a World Class /Workd beating athlete
I remember I was at primary school when Chris Boardman set his hour record. I had a day off school and it was awesome to watch that record with my Dad.
Nothing but respect for Obree. Amazing grit. UCI is a dispicable organization. You should read some of their communication. The interviews are just ... a never mind. Obree is a master.
Graeme O'bree wasn't just an amazing 'one off' athlete of huge ability & grit, he was & is a very very humble, respectable & intelligent individual. A particular person that you know will fight the cause to make things better. Graeme, lots & lots of people love you & always will.
I adore these older "we didn't have all the fancy bs you kids do" era docs in cycling history. I think the modern skill cap is a lot higher overall because of innovation and better materials (etc), but I think the top athletes back then were still operating at just as high, often higher levels. I still ride a mid 80s Peugeot, I like that it's heavier and limits cassette size (without modifying the frame), because one day when I decide to finally switch over to modern alu/carbon bikes it'll feel like I'm a jet engine by comparison. Major respect for those who rode these, and other bikes of the era at pro levels. Thanks for the upload!
Brilliant Documentary, Amazing athlete and soul of a lion. Reminds me so much of my loved and late brother in law who loved his cycles and also spent many years making them lighter and faster, eventually owning his own bike shop in Liverpool. He spent many years racing for fun and also suffered with mental health issues. Sadly he took his own life, I will never forget that day that destroyed so many peoples hearts as I was left to wrap up his loose ends. I really hope and wish this Scotsman all the best in his future years, he's proved he is a champion of champions, irrespective of the politicians of the sporting world whos decisions tried to dishonor him, the likes of which still persist today.
Graeme is a hero of mine,because he used low cost training technique's,a creative mind to design and build a bicycle that beat the world and yet he was always the local peoples champion.One of us that took on the world and won!!
Always so impressed with Graeme Obree’s efforts on and off the track! There aren't many cyclists that can do what he did, I mean a bit of a washing machine for a bottom bracket!
Accidentally came across this docu and I am amazed to say the least. It's this never to give up attitude that propelles us forward and no matter what the rule watchers say. Obere is the true champion!
I did not know much about Graeme apart from him being the world hour record holder. But now I know HOW he became that and it's absolutely fantastic and awe inspiring. Thanks for this film. It's one of my goto's from now on when I'm feeling lacking in motivation.
Met Graeme Obree back in the early 90s in a hotel in Cardiff where me and my club were taking part in a Tae Kwon Do competitition . We had no idea who he was but he was very enthusiastic talking to us about cycling
Extremely sad to hear that he tried to end his life, after the remarkable achievements on track, road & his workshop, a very admirable, hard working, British hero!👍🙏
@@jasmijnariel Yeah, they almost killed a sporting legend. The way his idea was ridiculed & likened to riding a bike with one's nose was shameful. What a bunch of corrupt, ignorant fool's! I'm so glad G's doing well.🙏
Great add on to this story. Boardman told Obree after he lost to him Worlds to use his black VETTA helmet to beat the Frenchman. And Obree did use it! 23:00........Years latter we learned that Hein Verbruggen was dirty as UCI President.
@@bromagura5543 Yes it was. Look at the helmet he wore in the first races. After Boardman is out. He switches to the VETTA. Obree wrote about it in his book.
Thought that was Boardmans helmet. You see him hand it over, post race on track, when Obree beat him. Boardman appeared gracious in defeat, and respected Obree for what he was, a great opponent. Super sportsmanship.
I'm so thankful for these documentaries that I would not have known anything about otherwise... Thanks to who put this together and to who made it available!
What an incredible story, and inspiring man. ...The John Harrison of cycling (he was a solo and revolutionary clock maker who created the first clocks capable of keeping time for prolonged periods at sea, likewise derided and ultimately sabotaged by the establishment, yet he did something nobody else could come close to.)
Helped Graeme after he had to abandon in the British Championships ROAD RACE (won by Brian Smith Motorola) on the Isle of Man in 1994 - proper gent 😊 Great piece too - thanks Peppercorns.
When you see him at Herne Hill, you see how effective his position is. His torso, with arms tucked in remind me of a small bird...tucking in between wing beats. Amazing man.
Where he is talking about the washing machine bearings: in bmx we call that a bottom bracket. The frame can be extremely weak around that area because it has so many weld areas, takes the brunt of your weight and has an axle inside it constantly undergoing pedalling momentum. For this guy to make a frame and bearing model from scrap parts is nothing short of genius, and I mean genius.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but until then cycling used ball bearings. Inspired by the washing machine, Obree effectively introduced roller bearings, a substantial and innovative advancement.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp A regular bottom bracket at the time didn't use a sealed bearing. Obree was intelligent enough to realise that a sealed bearing would perform better. All bottom brackets now contain sealed bearings. He also realised that streamlining the tubes of his frame would help. All track bikes now have streamlined tubes. He also introduced the 'superman position'. Most triathelon bikes use this now. He was also the first to use a mono or 'leftie' front fork arrangement to save weight. The list goes on. The travesty is that Boardman became the establishment darling and has made a fortune as such, whereas Obree disappeared into obscurity. Obree is indeed a legend of a cyclist, and a legend of a human being.
Fantastic story! I hope Graham is doing okay today. Great seeing him wearing Shorter Rochford gear, they had a bike shop in Finchley, north London, I’d be there every weekend on my BMX with a whole crew of kids. Great documentary on a great man. Truly inspiring.
Inspirational story and so well documented here. I met Graeme some years ago - very humble and a joy to speak with. A true innovator with the mental determination to match.
People are always afraid of change. Specially when change disrupt a winning and very profitable business. Sad story, to see how a corporation is capable of pushing the little guy to that point.
Great video, I have nothing but love and respect for this incredible athlete and revolutionary. Persecuted by cycling's administration, Graeme came back again and again to prove he was far from a "mediocre" athlete. To this day, I teach my students about his heart and contribution to the evolution of human potential.
Can we just agree this guy is a fucking legend.
Yes we can
Absolutely 👌
Stout Scotsman! Marvelous character! Legend indeed !
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"Obree still lives in his hometown in Scotland... rides for fun with his local cycling club...no longer gives interviews...still inspiring people worldwide to live beautiful, powerful, life."
Say hello from Norway to him. Big respect 🫡
Genius, elite athlete, engineer, pioneer, heart, fighter, misunderstood and persecuted by the establishment. The cream always rises to the top.
The Coe and Ovett of cycling...
Public ownership 'him' Vs Corporate 'ICU' shareholders Boardman
well said. couldn't agree more.
Very true sir apart from "misunderstood by the establishment" the establishment understand very very well how men like this are a huge threat to there control system & that's why they alway make sure to not just remove them but to destroy them. Evil
"Weaponized Autism"
It's absolutely insane (and baldly disingenuous) for anyone to suggest that Obree on his homemade $100 bike had any advantadge over the dudes on their $10,000 custom race bikes. Obree deserves ALL the credit that's his due.
the biomechanical advantage was MASSIVE. In January 1994 Francesco Moser, at age 43 1/2, 6 years after retiring, rode 51.840 km in Mexico City on the 10th anniversary of his 1984 records (50.808 and 51.151). Again: a fit, but long retired 43 1/2 year old went 700m farther than the 10 years younger self in his absolute prime, thanks to Obree's position.
@@lodivolley i suppose it couldn't have had anything to do with being in the middle of the golden age of doping at all, obviously
And in there, finances, power, control, ownership, you have your answer.
Cycling is rife with cheating, example being Lance Armstrong.
@@Keechization True
"In the end he never truly made it into the world of pro cycling." ... Literally beat world class riders on a 100£ home made bike with almost no sponsors and support and set multiple world records. This truly shows once again that pro cycling is a sport controlled by the establishment. I love bikes and cycling but absolutely despise the sport and most people in it.
It's because a poor man who makes his own world beating bike for the price of a night down the pub is very embarrassing for a international bike company sponsor that spends millions on developing a winner bike. And as we are all well aware the bicycle governing bodies are well and truly in their pockets. Absolutely disgusting. I just hope they see this all these years later and feel utterly ashamed because they dam well should be.
Couldn't agree more. Athletics is also ruined by money. Football needless to say. I feel a bit sorry for Boardman, (not really).What a bloke Graham Obree is.
It was mainly due to his position.
Yeah, by what measure did he NOT make it? He wore the rainbow jersey, he had several world records! He did more than the vast majority of those in the world of pro cycling!
fck the establishment and UCI.
The money behind cycling wanted him out. They can't push all their cycling products on the public after a guy using washing machine parts and a diy bike wins. Every field in this world is utter corrupt. Obree was a maverick. He was a man fighting against the big machine. What a hero.
sabotaging him only made it worse for them they showed how corrupt the field is
Fighting against the machine, on a washer machine.
Indeed.
😂😂😂👍@@michaelmcwhirter
Great comment. That's especially true re all fields of human industry being crooked
A fantastic touch by Boardman, after Obree beat him in the Semis. He went straight to him and gave him his, much better, aero helmet, which Obree wore to victory.
yes absolutely
a worthy competitor is an athlete's best friend- it is he who pushes one to strive for better
What a fantastic moment. Good on Boardman 🇬🇧
I hope the two are friends today!
I thought he just gave it to the British couch, like Graham did.
His story breaks my heart. He was a pioneer, he truly pushed the sport forward with his ingenuity, but the establishment simply couldn't accept change. It's so sad how such a passionate man was shut down by politics.
I can't help but think they looked down on him as a Scotsman, too. Absolute shame.
nah, an 18yo in WW1 dying with no taste of life or love breaks my heart
@@petertherepeatermustard3231 Well yeah but thats the next video in auto play. So just chill till then hommie. Rampant corruption and greed can also break our hearts as well.
@@petertherepeatermustard3231 Mine too, but why did they go, should have stayed home. Without soldiers, the moneymen wouldn't be able to fight any wars, pitting man against man for no reason but money and death-loving.
@@petertherepeatermustard3231 Maybe we need an accurate metric of what constitutes a 'broken heart', then we can decide whether people who say something 'breaks their heart' are exaggerating for effect or not.
Gotta love the youtube algorithm, never watched a single cycling video, and then this gem pops up. Amazing story.
A working class hero is something to be. Can't get over the governing body's petulance at his innovation, ingenuity and his obvious athleticism. I really hope he's doing well these days and is aware of how many people genuinely love him.
Agreed, f the tossers who surpressed him.
You know you're one of the greatest innovators in cycling history when the UCI has to ban your riding position not once but twice!
and the wheels he was using (tri spokes) are very inferior to his competitors dual disc wheels on the track.
Yes, the UCI pander to the elite families, whose sons compete, not to the ordinary man like Obree. All sports are the same, sadly.
The way the UCI were talking earlier in the documentary says it all - banned Obree and his style based on a pure 'slippery slope' fallacy rather than letting play continue and considering each new future development base on their merits when they happen.
Obree is a hero for what he achieved back in his day. It's a shame that he only was afforded a single day by the powers that be.
UCI will ban ANY AND EVERYTHING, they would ban drinking coffee left handed if someone would suggest it to them
@@L5GUK races need uniformity over the years or it will all be gone in 10 years
This guy designed a bike that million $$$ companies couldn’t and they shut him down as he was making them look stupid. To be flexible is a skill that is trained, you still need the power in your legs! The guy is a hero and inspiration. UCI have and always will be out of touch
Disgraceful how the UCI treated him…but he gave the ultimate FU to them when he invented the Superman position 👏👏
Correct. Absolute hero.
@Val O'Connell more to the point I think was that Obree didn't use drugs and was therefore a threat to the system setup to protect all the riders who were using drugs
Man, that guy did the French no favours at all.. what a melodramatic pr*ck..
then they banned it again.
TBH if there's no governing body to decide what a bicycle we'd end up with bicycle record being on recumbent bike with fairing and ridden backwards like the current hour record. from there it's just about where you draw the line, it's always gonna be a compromise between how aerodynamic you can be while staying in control, keeping a position that is not too bad for the body, andnstill allows the most power for an hour
. he was obviously a genius at pushing those limits and rules that were in effect at the time, and thankfully, rules have changed since. he played the game, won, and eventually lost.
It was shown not to give him much advantage at all in a wind tunnel. He would have broken the record without it.
He's my number one cycling hero.
And I've been heartbroken at the hand of a Scottish woman...this film gave me chills and tears. Thank you.
Great documentary, old school production, informative, without any unnecessary drama. Also, the Obree story is inspiring. Would love to meet the man.
He died not long time ago, guess you will have to wish for something different?
@@trolojolo6178 He's still alive
"without unnecessary drama".. yes! This feels so good.
@@TonyOldskool i have a chat with him in the local pub..great fella
Was a good friend of his eldest son at school back in 2004, met the man himself back in 2005 as well when I stayed over at his. A very lovely man who is highly intelligent too.
Wow very cool!
Love this guy. He used to fuel on jam sandwiches instead of scientific sports nutrition. He proved creativity, ability and will are the most phenomenal component in competing.
Amazing, like Usain Bolt breaking the world record at the olympics and admitting to journalists when asked what his diet was of eating Chicken Nuggets at the olympic village Macdonalds everyday.
@@geometron3646 no thats completely different. It shows that bolt is lazy and unprofessional, while obree is extremly dedicated but without the money so he searches for alternatives
@@geometron3646 methinks. Bolt used more then big macs....
If he had the information that today's athelete has, he'd probably have been vegan.
@@RicDrgn I highly doubt that
When they have to change the rules to beat you...
What an absolute legend!!!
Haters
Repeatedly
I have never been into cycling and had no idea who Graeme was but I enjoyed this documentary, Im struck by the sportsmanship of both Obree and Boardman very nice to see
@@jamesmccaul2945 exactly, pure arrogance from Chris who was and is a corporate shill.
Watch the film! The flying scotsman
@@John_Wood_ Stop being daft.That's completely over the top.
There's a movie built around Graeme's life, well worth watching. It's called 'The Flying Scotsman'
The world loves you Graeme Obree. Thank you for showing us what is possible.
Agreed!
Met Graeme yesterday in Kilmarnock on his bike. True gentleman and an inspiration
u r one lucky guy...
wot Lars Bee said 👍
Does he live in Irvine?
I don’t even have the slightest interest in anything to do with cycling, but DAMN this was an amazing underdog story. Didn’t have the money, had to build his own bike and kicked ass, well done Mr. O’bree, well done.
H.G. Wells once said "Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race" Graeme Obree renews my faith in the human race and the world is so much better for people like him being in it, thank you Graeme 🙏 Living legend ❤
perfect comment.
I do like the comment, and I wouldn't want to take away from it - though I find it very ironic as h.g. wells was an extreme eugenicist, who thought there were a few too many people in the world!
Maybe we'd be safer on a bike with someone like that dude around!
At least on a bicycle, he may not have wanted to off you for the greater good!
I’m a casual cyclist who bikes multiple times a week. Hope I make H.G. Wells proud.
What was Wells point? Why was Wells relaxed about humanitys future? Is he happy peeps are exercising? Does he think cyclists funny? Or as its greener?
Is there a source for this quote? When and where did he write or say that?
training on a rust bucket in your yard, and being as good as it gets, is glorious. what a beast
I’m glad this was suggested to me as I would never have come across this amazing individual otherwise. Thanks for making such a well produced documentary about this amazing man.
They made a movie about him 'The Flying Scotsman'.
An absolute animal. Doubling down with another weird position and winning, I’m truly inspired and hope the goat is feeling well 🤯
I'm from Germany and the name Obree sounds simply majestic to me. A legend. And I really like the British TT stuff, in the Velodrome, the hill climbing stuff, great culture! Oh, and get rid of Truss asap!
Truss is just the tip of a iceberg ...I would suggest akin to fascism.... billionaire's
@@jasemiester Of course, she is just that. But she is an extremely ugly tip. So much hatred in her face. She might be worse than this witch that shattered your country into ruins.
A German complaining about Truss ? Mmm
How about you guys bin the green lobby?
Trump warned you that relying on Russian oil was a bad idea. (You laughed at him ) You aren’t laughing now are you ?
@@maxflight777 as if everyone of us is responsible for that
Get out of here with your hidden politics
Against all Odds, this is by far the best film i ever watched .inspiration is real i got so much adrenaline after watching this.
Cycling history wouldn't be the same without him.
So cool to see how Boardman finally gave in and couldn't even hide his amazement. "Graeme is just... awesome." A true sportsman. Respect and big ups for uploading this.
All I know about cycling is pretty much that Lance guy and PEDs etc. but I clicked on a video the other day about 'banned positions' since I was bored and it was a quick, sub 5min, mental distraction. They covered these two positions and I wondered why they were 'banned' but thought nothing else of it. Now this mini-doc popped up and I decided to trust the algorithm and figured it would at least add some context to what I had watched previously - I did not expect to be so captivated and learn about such an amazing story/man/journey. Truly inspiring.
Watch the flying scotsman! it's based on his story and a remarkable film!
Absolutely a Scottish hero!!!!!, Humbling to see a working family man take on the establishment and win!!!! Well done Graham, you are an inspiration for every budding enthusiast of any genre of sport, I have read your Biography and brought me to tears of how hard you worked to obtain your dreams!!!!, Work hard, believe, try, and FIGHT for it!!!!
Someone HAS to make a movie about this! Incredible story.
they have- called The Flying Scotsman...it is worth watching if you are interested
@@laszlozoltan5021 thank you. I will watch it
@@TheSpiritOfTheWest This came out around 2005 I think: ua-cam.com/video/YOCJbVlT5pw/v-deo.html
Great movie ,greets from Chile
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Absolute Genius and nice guy , had the great privilege of meeting him many times during club Time Trial races in the early 90s, tragic the governing body would not accept it . Forever a champion in Scotland who Inspired the normal club cyclist.🚴🏻💪🏴
Thanks for uploading this. I watched the drama-documentary "The Flying Scotsman" about Graeme which is excellent. The cycling hierarchy treated him disgracefully yet each time Graeme fought back. His bike was made up from old washing machine parts .....and authorities don't like people who do that. Especially when they blow the competition away that rides sponsored bikes costing thousands!
Well done to the filmmakers on this one. I make docs myself and was hooked from the 1st minute. Might just be the best short-form doc I've seen. Beautifully constructed. And Obree is a fooking legend!
The sheer force of will of this guy is incredible. Lucky enough to meet him at events a couple of times. A real joy to listen to. Inspiring approach to TT’ing
🏴 Superb man.
Genius and pioneer. Most pioneers are treated like mad men initially.
The cycling establishment look like spoilt brats, bullies who make up the rules to suit the situation.
How much divergence from the traditional riding position and bike geometry do you allow though? Making up rules to suit the situation is how the world works. While Obree got a pretty raw deal, the UCI's position is understandable.
The argument that it is the man and not the bike is a fairly hollow one.
Bike development had taken off using modern materials like carbon fibre at that time.. each team gaining an advantage to some degree depending on how their bike was tweaked.
What the UCI we’re actually dating without knowing it was that everyone should have an identical bike.. why not a butchers bike with 3 packets of sausages in the basket?
Utterly shameful treatment of a World Class /Workd beating athlete
Stating not ‘dating’..
They allowed the Prance to win the tour so many times.
Wow. If ever there was a film waiting to be made, this is it
Why do we treat our greatest with such shabby contempt? The curse of those riding the envelope. Tremendous documentary. :)
I remember I was at primary school when Chris Boardman set his hour record. I had a day off school and it was awesome to watch that record with my Dad.
Nothing but respect for Obree. Amazing grit.
UCI is a dispicable organization. You should read some of their communication. The interviews are just ... a never mind. Obree is a master.
A most excellent documentary, no glitz and glamour, telling it like it truly is.
Graeme O'bree wasn't just an amazing 'one off' athlete of huge ability & grit, he was & is a very very humble, respectable & intelligent individual.
A particular person that you know will fight the cause to make things better.
Graeme, lots & lots of people love you & always will.
26:55 And we now find out that the superman position isn't very aerodynamic!! He was just the strongest rider.
Superman position is about 24% aero compared to the 17% supertuck.
And then you also need single speed to make the superman even faster
I adore these older "we didn't have all the fancy bs you kids do" era docs in cycling history. I think the modern skill cap is a lot higher overall because of innovation and better materials (etc), but I think the top athletes back then were still operating at just as high, often higher levels. I still ride a mid 80s Peugeot, I like that it's heavier and limits cassette size (without modifying the frame), because one day when I decide to finally switch over to modern alu/carbon bikes it'll feel like I'm a jet engine by comparison. Major respect for those who rode these, and other bikes of the era at pro levels. Thanks for the upload!
Brilliant Documentary, Amazing athlete and soul of a lion. Reminds me so much of my loved and late brother in law who loved his cycles and also spent many years making them lighter and faster, eventually owning his own bike shop in Liverpool. He spent many years racing for fun and also suffered with mental health issues.
Sadly he took his own life, I will never forget that day that destroyed so many peoples hearts as I was left to wrap up his loose ends.
I really hope and wish this Scotsman all the best in his future years, he's proved he is a champion of champions, irrespective of the politicians of the sporting world whos decisions tried to dishonor him, the likes of which still persist today.
Can't explain how much I admire this man
19:45 great to hear Phil Ligget's voice. Beautiful film. Thanks. Cheers, Mr. Obree
One of the greatest stories unbound determination, such a phenomenal athlete and engineer all in one powered by a genius mind.
21:30 "sorry about that", what a man.
Top sportsmanship by Boardman too
How amazing. What an inspiring story. Facing the jealousy of such a large part of the sport and still pulling through. Terrific!
Graeme Obree is a legent, best TT cyclist ever
Absolutely spot on my friend
To go for the hour record and fail but then to go again within 24 hrs . Amazing . Has to be one of the best rides in cycling history
he made his own fooken bike! already a legend
Graeme is a hero of mine,because he used low cost training technique's,a creative mind to design and build a bicycle that beat the world and yet he was always the local peoples champion.One of us that took on the world and won!!
Always so impressed with Graeme Obree’s efforts on and off the track! There aren't many cyclists that can do what he did, I mean a bit of a washing machine for a bottom bracket!
Never heard of this guy im 52, how possible this man was not respected higher.
People like Graeme Obree are the reason the human race moves forward in a positive direction. What a guy.
I enjoyed every second of this. Thank you. What a heroic, renegade maverick this man was/is.
Accidentally came across this docu and I am amazed to say the least. It's this never to give up attitude that propelles us forward and no matter what the rule watchers say. Obere is the true champion!
I did not know much about Graeme apart from him being the world hour record holder. But now I know HOW he became that and it's absolutely fantastic and awe inspiring. Thanks for this film. It's one of my goto's from now on when I'm feeling lacking in motivation.
The word genius is so over used. Not with this genius. And what a brilliant wife.
Met Graeme Obree back in the early 90s in a hotel in Cardiff where me and my club were taking part in a Tae Kwon Do competitition . We had no idea who he was but he was very enthusiastic talking to us about cycling
I will always cheer on the underdog who dares to think different. He is the champion in my book.
This is one of the few things youtube has "insisted" upon me by repeatedly showing me the thumbnail, and I am super glad they did. Awesome doc.
brilliant documentary thanks for the upload
Extremely sad to hear that he tried to end his life, after the remarkable achievements on track, road & his workshop, a very admirable, hard working, British hero!👍🙏
That is what uci does... ruin peoples life
@@jasmijnariel Yeah, they almost killed a sporting legend. The way his idea was ridiculed & likened to riding a bike with one's nose was shameful. What a bunch of corrupt, ignorant fool's!
I'm so glad G's doing well.🙏
Wonderful documentary. A world-class innovator AND world-class athlete. We salute you Graham.
Great documentary! I learned something new and much respect for Mr. Obree!
I am endlessly fascinated by people’s obsessions with things like this.
I wish i could give this video 2 thumbs up. And i never felt that way ever
thank u for the perspective. You don't need expensive, most up to date equipments/bike to train.
Truly one of the greatest cyclists of all time
I agree
Love this docu'. Thanks for the upload 👍
🚴♂️Obree is a living legend 😎🤙
Great add on to this story. Boardman told Obree after he lost to him Worlds to use his black VETTA helmet to beat the Frenchman. And Obree did use it! 23:00........Years latter we learned that Hein Verbruggen was dirty as UCI President.
Thanks for that bit of info about the helmet, it adds a dimension to the story that I was unaware of.
So was it Boardmans's helmet he wore?
@@bromagura5543 Yes it was. Look at the helmet he wore in the first races. After Boardman is out. He switches to the VETTA. Obree wrote about it in his book.
Thought that was Boardmans helmet. You see him hand it over, post race on track, when Obree beat him. Boardman appeared gracious in defeat, and respected Obree for what he was, a great opponent. Super sportsmanship.
Love that he gave him his helmet, mutual respect!
Verbruggen is the disgrace here. Another naysayer to put in your back pock.
An absolute Legend in cycling history. Maximum respect. Great times in cycling.
What a guy absolute polymath and one of my favourite cyclists
I'm so thankful for these documentaries that I would not have known anything about otherwise... Thanks to who put this together and to who made it available!
What an incredible story, and inspiring man. ...The John Harrison of cycling (he was a solo and revolutionary clock maker who created the first clocks capable of keeping time for prolonged periods at sea, likewise derided and ultimately sabotaged by the establishment, yet he did something nobody else could come close to.)
I would love to meet Graeme and love to own an Obree bike. Graeme has just leaped to number one in my top cyclists of all time!
Helped Graeme after he had to abandon in the British Championships ROAD RACE (won by Brian Smith Motorola) on the Isle of Man in 1994 - proper gent 😊
Great piece too - thanks Peppercorns.
Many thanks for this wonderful documentary. 👌
When you see him at Herne Hill, you see how effective his position is. His torso, with arms tucked in remind me of a small bird...tucking in between wing beats. Amazing man.
This is probably the most interesting thing i have ever watched on youtube. Thank you!
Where he is talking about the washing machine bearings: in bmx we call that a bottom bracket. The frame can be extremely weak around that area because it has so many weld areas, takes the brunt of your weight and has an axle inside it constantly undergoing pedalling momentum. For this guy to make a frame and bearing model from scrap parts is nothing short of genius, and I mean genius.
Yeah they're called bottom brackets in road cycling at least as well idk about mtb tho
bearings are bearing, nothing special.
@@ohhi5237 "nothing special" ok you go build a bearing with a friction coefficient that's less than the competition. Go on! Nothing special my arse.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but until then cycling used ball bearings. Inspired by the washing machine, Obree effectively introduced roller bearings, a substantial and innovative advancement.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp A regular bottom bracket at the time didn't use a sealed bearing. Obree was intelligent enough to realise that a sealed bearing would perform better. All bottom brackets now contain sealed bearings. He also realised that streamlining the tubes of his frame would help. All track bikes now have streamlined tubes. He also introduced the 'superman position'. Most triathelon bikes use this now. He was also the first to use a mono or 'leftie' front fork arrangement to save weight. The list goes on. The travesty is that Boardman became the establishment darling and has made a fortune as such, whereas Obree disappeared into obscurity. Obree is indeed a legend of a cyclist, and a legend of a human being.
Obree personifies absolute, unshakable determination.
Fantastic story! I hope Graham is doing okay today. Great seeing him wearing Shorter Rochford gear, they had a bike shop in Finchley, north London, I’d be there every weekend on my BMX with a whole crew of kids.
Great documentary on a great man. Truly inspiring.
Still in Potters Bar
Never heard of any of this, or them, but this guys a legend! What an example of Flow when he’s riding that bike he made.
Inspirational story and so well documented here. I met Graeme some years ago - very humble and a joy to speak with. A true innovator with the mental determination to match.
i dont like cycling at all , but this man has my utter most respect . its a fucking disgrace how bad the system treated him .
Loved this documentary! People like Graeme must be embraced!
Beautiful Film. Two fine gentlemen - Obree and Boardman.
Much love to Mr. Obree from 🇩🇰 still remember the story of the washing machine build.. ❤️
People are always afraid of change. Specially when change disrupt a winning and very profitable business.
Sad story, to see how a corporation is capable of pushing the little guy to that point.
Obree is a legend of cycling. You know you've done good when they ban your bike because your too fast lol
An absolute hero & legend!! Disgusting how the establishment treated him! Respect Graeme, RESPECT!!
Thank you for making this. Wish he could be able to watch this incredible work.
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Great video, I have nothing but love and respect for this incredible athlete and revolutionary. Persecuted by cycling's administration, Graeme came back again and again to prove he was far from a "mediocre" athlete. To this day, I teach my students about his heart and contribution to the evolution of human potential.