Came out brilliantly once again. Was a bit of a beast this time, but had a lot of fun talking with Andy Hall and working on this video with you. The art team, narration, and your editing was top notch as usual. Looking forward to Nurgle and the future!
Interesting point not brought up, but one would think that in addition to astromancers that accompany the sky fleets, one or two flights of longma riders would also accompany them to provide aerial back up. Don’t know if GW or CA really considered that but oh well.
@@vetleelias Naturally. GW is protective of their property. You can not just make things up without their approval. But it shows a fair bit of trust, it seems that they let them develop Cathay to this degree.
Cathy could be used to bring back the Olde Worlde from the Realms of Chaos aka Age of Sigmar. The Great Wall blocked the End Times and spared the Farr Side of the Worlde. Ind, Nippon, and have the Krugan Hung and Dark Elves as antagonist. Cathy finds a way to reunite the relms back into the Olde Worlde.
I like these. By the time 8th edition rolled around for Fantasy peripheral factions like Cathay, Nipon, Araby, Kislev, and the Moot had all been effectively dropped. They were still canon but their lore was incredibly sporadic and niche. It's nice to see them being recognized again, and that lore being condensed in videos like this.
Cathaty and Kislev are supposed to be getting made into whole armies for Warhammer: The Old World, the WFB reboot. Their Total War armies are supposedly based on the GW concept art and designed in cooperation with GW from what I've seen.
@@1YCARADOFACAO well this sadly isn't an expansion. It's a rewrite to appeal to the Chinese communist party. Cathay actually had quite a lot of lore before, but the way the Empire is based on the HRE it's based on the Ming dynasty. The dragon emperors there are just humans with special powers (like the royarchs of Bretonian) who hold the country together with an iron grip, cultural genocide, Assasination and overwhelming military force. The new focus on harmony is straight out of CCP state TV and couldn't be further from the old lore.
This video is sheer perfection. The art, the music, the narration; I can't find a single thing to criticize. Hell, I could listen to this sort of narration about everything to do with Cathay for an hour. Well done!
Kings and Generals: We're launching a new Fantasy and Scifi oriented channel! Invicta: You need another channel? To be clear, not dunking on either one, both approaches are great for me.
At first I was wondering why during K&G's anouncement that they did not include outright warhammer fantasy and 40k content, it was pretty obvious to have them included. Aside from that twin tailed comet there was nothing else. Then I remembered about GW's new copyright act and just chucked it to that as K&G choosing to tiptoe around the subject. Or they just chose to cover the more mainstream subjects. anyways still happy with the anouncement though.
We have plans to roll out more series next year which means it will start to get a bit too cramped for both history and fiction. We will also be considering an "Invicta Lore" type channel
@@InvictaHistory @Invicta better late than never. launch it asap. Can you please do a video dedicated to the poem Invictus and perhaps the origin of the channel name if its related.
Great video, but is no one gonna talk about how weird it was that Nurgle and Tzeentch TEAMED UP to assault the walls? That right there is a sign of the end times in of itself.
here is another thing. in spite of all of that the place was not prepaired to face off against orks and grimgore ironhide and his tribe along with the united ork tribes under his command made there way to cathy and overwelmed the place. they were not ready for orks. especally when they can go through the desart where the crator is at which destroyed the oger camps so many mellenia back.
I actually think Brettonian Grail Knights are rather interesting as well, and an overview of the armies of the WoC would be pretty cool too. Honestly Warhammer has a lot to go in depth about
@@hamishsewell5990 I never understood why people loved Shaggy ratmen until I read Gotrek and Felix. Thanquol is a thoroughly good character, you get some insights into skaven society, which is rather disgusting, but interesting to explore, and their mentality. Also Thanquol himself isn't just a great character but also just makes every scene he's in quite enjoyable
Just can’t wait to play as Zhao Ming of the Western Provinces, also note that at 6:29 The Dragon Emperor resides in the Celestial City above Weijin and at 6:36 The Moon Empress name Quai Yin is prononced "Chuai Yin" the Q in Chinese is pronounced as a C.
I think other Chinese languages are different since Mandarin, Yue-Cantonese, Ming Na, etc all have different pronunciations. Qs are pronounced as ch in Mandarin, but I believe Hokkein-Ming Na spoken in southeastern China and Taiwan pronounces Q as a K or my sounding tone.
Miao being able to fight 3 Great Unclean Ones at once and win really speaks to her level of strength. Also interesting points brought up in this vid, potentially two new units that aren’t in the game revealed here, which would be a Dragonflame variant to the Skyjunk and Dragonflame cannon similar to the Flame Cannon used by the Dwarfs. Also, very glad to see Shi Hong be the first regular human character getting substantial lore for Cathay, expecting at least 2-3 more to show up.
Damn these videos are so intriguing, I never knew how in depth the Warhammer lore and world was, its so awesome! I would love to see videos on some of other chaos factions such as Nurgle, Tzeentch, Slaneesh and Khorne. Keep up the good work!
I always hear about how the Sky Junks are bigger than the Sky Lanterns, but they always look roughly the same size, 'cept maybe a bit more cargo space in the Junk's case. Hope you do the Great Longma Riders, they're hyped up but fare rather poorly in the videos we've seen so far. Thanks for the amazing work that's always a pleasure!
Guey to go Indy Pride love this channel and yours!!Great collabo!! I enjoyed the warhammer content would love to see more!!! There's so much stuff you guys could do more milk and cookies collaboration would be awesome!!
I would absolutely love some sort of series- be it books TV, or otherwise -about the airship competitions mentioned in the video. It sounds like an incredible opportunity for worldbuilding and storytelling. Rival guilds- espionage, politicking, etc- all while competing for the favor of the royal family or other patrons just sounds awesome.
I like Cathay, but I'm honestly glad to see a few cracks and imperfections in their society. I hope there's more. I get the promotional material is trying to draw you in with cool, but their lore was honestly starting to seem a bit ridiculously powerful compared to the other factions.
Well it has been two years but I just stumbled upon this comment. As Cathey is meant to mirror RL China it seems great and shining from afar. As this video hints at the many internal issues in Cathey and the leaders and ministers don't really care about the individuals as long harmony is achieved. And consider this: The crowmen also spy on the citizens and will report to the authorities. The Terracotta Sentinels usually stand silently, guarding the land. Should an enemy host appear they will be activated and they will also be deployed against rebellious forces.
I like this corporation between content creator and company. Like props for actual gameplay and blogs CA but this here has gotten me more hyped to play Cathay that anything you've released on them outside of that banger Miao Ying in engine trailer. Great work on the video as always Invitca and good job CA marketing team for supporting this, it is a good call and I'd love to see more cooperation like this in the future. As a consumer it makes me glad to see that sometimes your marketing is somewhat intelligent That said you have some very wierd decisions in company that have made me question whether or not to support your company as of late. Leaving games updateless, selling through hype rather then gameplay, starting more projects rather than focusing on making the ones you have work properly, not solving bugs, releasing Troy knowing it's a mess. Well that's just naming a few. But this here, good move, really good move
@@lamThinker they are related through the daemons of chaos, who are the same regardless of the setting, there is also clear parallels as in the Empire of Man being the Empire of Man (yes the names are the same), the Necrons being Tomb Kings and others. Usually 40k is played up to be way more bleak than Fantasy, since 40k started during the time of films like Blade Runner or other dystopian sci-fi settings and Fantasy is more like a spoof of Tolkien's worldbuilding, at least imo.
@@lamThinker chaos gods are the same. The Eldar are very similar to the elves of fantasy, and the imperium is kinda similar to the empire. Honestly though, the fantasy lore is a lot more enjoyable than 40k
People seem to be calling Cathay mary sue faction but they all fail to see this. In my view Cathay is falling from the inside, a huge castle built over a house of cards. The type of grimdark i love to see
Came out brilliantly once again. Was a bit of a beast this time, but had a lot of fun talking with Andy Hall and working on this video with you. The art team, narration, and your editing was top notch as usual. Looking forward to Nurgle and the future!
Interesting point not brought up, but one would think that in addition to astromancers that accompany the sky fleets, one or two flights of longma riders would also accompany them to provide aerial back up. Don’t know if GW or CA really considered that but oh well.
I absolutely love this collaboration. Y'all are producing some AAA quality stuff.
Great writing!
MilkandcookiesTW collab 🤘
@@ProVoiceActorGuy Great narrating my friend! Your voice lends gravitas and professionalism that this series would lack otherwise :)
Good thing ca added depth to Cathay. If it was up to GW we would still be waiting for the next decade or so to see Cathay being fleshed out.
Ca worked on this with GW Support and approval
@@vetleelias Naturally. GW is protective of their property. You can not just make things up without their approval. But it shows a fair bit of trust, it seems that they let them develop Cathay to this degree.
@@Cythil Oh yea totaly
Cathy could be used to bring back the Olde Worlde from the Realms of Chaos aka Age of Sigmar.
The Great Wall blocked the End Times and spared the Farr Side of the Worlde. Ind, Nippon, and have the Krugan Hung and Dark Elves as antagonist. Cathy finds a way to reunite the relms back into the Olde Worlde.
@@Marinealver i mean they are bringin gback the old world in a sense (bringing back the minis but not redconing end times)
I like these. By the time 8th edition rolled around for Fantasy peripheral factions like Cathay, Nipon, Araby, Kislev, and the Moot had all been effectively dropped. They were still canon but their lore was incredibly sporadic and niche. It's nice to see them being recognized again, and that lore being condensed in videos like this.
Every expansion on existing lore is welcomed, it means that the world can still be explored and there's a lot to learn
A lot of people will abused Grand Cathay Sky fleet for you know it’s cheesiness, will end up like 40k.
Cathaty and Kislev are supposed to be getting made into whole armies for Warhammer: The Old World, the WFB reboot. Their Total War armies are supposedly based on the GW concept art and designed in cooperation with GW from what I've seen.
@@1YCARADOFACAO well this sadly isn't an expansion. It's a rewrite to appeal to the Chinese communist party. Cathay actually had quite a lot of lore before, but the way the Empire is based on the HRE it's based on the Ming dynasty. The dragon emperors there are just humans with special powers (like the royarchs of Bretonian) who hold the country together with an iron grip, cultural genocide, Assasination and overwhelming military force. The new focus on harmony is straight out of CCP state TV and couldn't be further from the old lore.
It’s an expansion all the same
Cathay just had a change in management now with Dragon children there is still corruption and grimdark
Impressive amount of animated artwork. Very informative for learning more about this new faction.
This video is sheer perfection. The art, the music, the narration; I can't find a single thing to criticize. Hell, I could listen to this sort of narration about everything to do with Cathay for an hour. Well done!
Kings and Generals: We're launching a new Fantasy and Scifi oriented channel!
Invicta: You need another channel?
To be clear, not dunking on either one, both approaches are great for me.
At first I was wondering why during K&G's anouncement that they did not include outright warhammer fantasy and 40k content, it was pretty obvious to have them included. Aside from that twin tailed comet there was nothing else. Then I remembered about GW's new copyright act and just chucked it to that as K&G choosing to tiptoe around the subject. Or they just chose to cover the more mainstream subjects. anyways still happy with the anouncement though.
Ye watch both channels haha
We have plans to roll out more series next year which means it will start to get a bit too cramped for both history and fiction. We will also be considering an "Invicta Lore" type channel
@@InvictaHistory If you do make one, I'll be subscribed to it!
@@InvictaHistory @Invicta better late than never. launch it asap. Can you please do a video dedicated to the poem Invictus and perhaps the origin of the channel name if its related.
Great video, but is no one gonna talk about how weird it was that Nurgle and Tzeentch TEAMED UP to assault the walls? That right there is a sign of the end times in of itself.
By Sigmar, this is impossible!
@Kenji azure thats age of Sigmar, not the end times JFC
@@dreamwar1586 what does jfc mean
here is another thing. in spite of all of that the place was not prepaired to face off against orks and grimgore ironhide and his tribe along with the united ork tribes under his command made there way to cathy and overwelmed the place. they were not ready for orks. especally when they can go through the desart where the crator is at which destroyed the oger camps so many mellenia back.
@@dreamwar1586 sigmar also existed in fantasy, he is one of the main gods of the empire.
This is amazing! I love the history vids and as a warhammer fan, this is a perfect mix.
The artwork, production, music and esp narration were absolutely beautiful! Great job!
Great stuff! Clan Eshin Assassins, Ogre Manesters and Dwarf Slayers are musts for Units of Warhammer! Would love to see those!
I actually think Brettonian Grail Knights are rather interesting as well, and an overview of the armies of the WoC would be pretty cool too. Honestly Warhammer has a lot to go in depth about
@@tada-kun982 oh, yes them too. And Stormvermin
@@hamishsewell5990 I never understood why people loved Shaggy ratmen until I read Gotrek and Felix. Thanquol is a thoroughly good character, you get some insights into skaven society, which is rather disgusting, but interesting to explore, and their mentality. Also Thanquol himself isn't just a great character but also just makes every scene he's in quite enjoyable
I think they only do those Videos prior to a release. I think they are not gonna do many unit coverages.
Just can’t wait to play as Zhao Ming of the Western Provinces, also note that at 6:29 The Dragon Emperor resides in the Celestial City above Weijin and at 6:36 The Moon Empress name Quai Yin is prononced "Chuai Yin" the Q in Chinese is pronounced as a C.
I think other Chinese languages are different since Mandarin, Yue-Cantonese, Ming Na, etc all have different pronunciations. Qs are pronounced as ch in Mandarin, but I believe Hokkein-Ming Na spoken in southeastern China and Taiwan pronounces Q as a K or my sounding tone.
Miao being able to fight 3 Great Unclean Ones at once and win really speaks to her level of strength.
Also interesting points brought up in this vid, potentially two new units that aren’t in the game revealed here, which would be a Dragonflame variant to the Skyjunk and Dragonflame cannon similar to the Flame Cannon used by the Dwarfs.
Also, very glad to see Shi Hong be the first regular human character getting substantial lore for Cathay, expecting at least 2-3 more to show up.
Maybe Regiment of renown???
Like with necrofex???
(Hope not i wont an army of them)
Even Anarion could only take one one of each and I think it was the Great Unclean One that finally brought him down.
I mean he specifically said that she lead the charge of Longma Riders, so she didn't do it alone. Not that it isn't still impressive.
You cannot take this lore too seriously… they made Cathay extremely strong so that its appealing to the chineese market…its barely canon
@@FilipMoncrief It’s entirely canon. There’s an army book for Cathay that they literally made for the upcoming game.
I can't speak for the lore, but the video is well edited and the narration is God tier.
I still remember this channel was just one guy talking about Rome. Been here for years and happy to be so.
I love the art of this series.
LOL, the Matt Damon movie "Great Wall" was a GW warhammer movie.
I’m still trying to work out which accent Matt Damon was trying to do.
I was just thinking that I've watched this movie
Do they actually steal it or did they just borrow it
As soon as I saw the claw extending from the wall with the drop shoots I wondered this as well...
Definitely do more of this content. I really enjoy this channels historical content, but the quality of this was just amazing. Please do more!!!
Fascinating! These fantasy segments are a nice change of pace!⚔️🏹
What a gem to wake up to, the quality here was just A+.
Great lore for Total War Warhammer 3. Fantastic!! Can't wait when Araby is finally added to the game. Thanks for sharing.
Damn these videos are so intriguing, I never knew how in depth the Warhammer lore and world was, its so awesome! I would love to see videos on some of other chaos factions such as Nurgle, Tzeentch, Slaneesh and Khorne. Keep up the good work!
I love this as a long time warhammer nut and the fact of the delivery is as well delivered as the true history videos is fantastic
YES THAT WAS AMAZING!!!! Pls more of this! Amazing work
This was really well done. Look forward to more!
This is brilliant. Usual excellent production quality all round. Would love to see more.
This video game series is showing more love and respect to Warhammer Fantasy than Games Workshop did.
Fabulous, magnificent, immensely deep and well documented. A new gold mine has been scouted
That was extremely cool. The art was incredible! Love seeing this faction flushed out
This is epic. I love the way you do your videos.
YOOOO iv played over 1000+ hours of the total war series thank you so much for doing them!
One of the best “units of warhammer” to date. Nice video
Great video. I like it alot. New lore information is a Chery on top
I always hear about how the Sky Junks are bigger than the Sky Lanterns, but they always look roughly the same size, 'cept maybe a bit more cargo space in the Junk's case.
Hope you do the Great Longma Riders, they're hyped up but fare rather poorly in the videos we've seen so far.
Thanks for the amazing work that's always a pleasure!
That was great! I would definitely love to see more of this.
I'm loving this series! Great video as always!
The BGM really makes good reference to the 3 Kingdoms title here. Great vid!
Love these videos! Keep up the good work
Oh this is totally new to me,
glad to see Games Workshop cover the orient.
Love when I get these notifications❤️
Love the video! If you are doing more could you please do either the Demigryph Knights or the Steam Tank of the Empire?
Amazing Fanart and narration!
This was awesome! Even better than the Skullcrushers vid. Keep it up guys.
Great video! Exceptional animation and descriptions. I really learned a lot and enjoyed the video. I can not wait to play.
This is awesome! I'd love to see more of these!
Guey to go Indy Pride love this channel and yours!!Great collabo!! I enjoyed the warhammer content would love to see more!!! There's so much stuff you guys could do more milk and cookies collaboration would be awesome!!
I would absolutely love some sort of series- be it books TV, or otherwise -about the airship competitions mentioned in the video. It sounds like an incredible opportunity for worldbuilding and storytelling. Rival guilds- espionage, politicking, etc- all while competing for the favor of the royal family or other patrons just sounds awesome.
The Wright brothers but oriental themed and with games of throne politics.
Definitely could be a great sub story in a fantasy realm like d&d !
More of this would be great, very well done, thank you!
Fantastic. More of this please.
Great video. The more I learn about Warhammer the more I realise how vanilla the world-building is, it’s literally just a fantasy planet Earth!
Warhammer lore is always a welcome sight in the channel. Good job guys!
Great video I love it!
Great to See such development for Cathay.
That's a big YES for more Warhammer fantasy lore!
This video was amazing as usual! There isn’t a single video on this channel that isn’t engaging and educational
Definitely going to play Cathay first.
Very well made, would love to see more episodes on Warhammer fantasy like this one!
Yes, please make more warhammer content, as i find them very entertaining and informative
I love when you do units of Warhammer especially fantasy
I like Cathay, but I'm honestly glad to see a few cracks and imperfections in their society. I hope there's more.
I get the promotional material is trying to draw you in with cool, but their lore was honestly starting to seem a bit ridiculously powerful compared to the other factions.
Well it has been two years but I just stumbled upon this comment.
As Cathey is meant to mirror RL China it seems great and shining from afar.
As this video hints at the many internal issues in Cathey and the leaders and ministers don't really care about the individuals as long harmony is achieved.
And consider this:
The crowmen also spy on the citizens and will report to the authorities.
The Terracotta Sentinels usually stand silently, guarding the land. Should an enemy host appear they will be activated and they will also be deployed against rebellious forces.
Looks awesome! Amazing arts and interesting story! Thank you! Very nice way of helping immersion.
> drop a meteor on the Ogre homeland to end their raids
that's the most quintessentially Warhammer way to solve that problem lol
true but it did not stop the orks from getting through there.
One of the Warhammer authors reconned the tiny little end times bit but it was still half assed
Not a warhammer fan as such, but found this very interesting. more videos like this would be good. Thanks.
I gotta be honest having to watch this mostly silent and with captions makes the thought of the "great fleet of grand café" not sound too terrifying
Omg this was amazing plz keep them coming
This was amazing really enjoyed it !
As a Warhammer series fan and a fan of milkandcookesTW, I would definitely love more of this!
I like this corporation between content creator and company. Like props for actual gameplay and blogs CA but this here has gotten me more hyped to play Cathay that anything you've released on them outside of that banger Miao Ying in engine trailer. Great work on the video as always Invitca and good job CA marketing team for supporting this, it is a good call and I'd love to see more cooperation like this in the future. As a consumer it makes me glad to see that sometimes your marketing is somewhat intelligent
That said you have some very wierd decisions in company that have made me question whether or not to support your company as of late. Leaving games updateless, selling through hype rather then gameplay, starting more projects rather than focusing on making the ones you have work properly, not solving bugs, releasing Troy knowing it's a mess. Well that's just naming a few. But this here, good move, really good move
Yeah I'd love more. My god the quality was amazing!
Awesome. Another channel that comes at lore like a real documentary. Another one to go with the Templin Institute.
This video was excellent. Nice job.
oh this is amazing!!!! absolutely love this video
17:18 Tzeench and Nurgle working together? What chaos sorcery is this?
Very impressive and informative video!
I will absolutely play as grand cathay first cant wait!!!!
This is very well done. Will be fun to see the other faction histories and armies be told in this format.
Feels like something straight from History Channel.
8:56 10:00 Look at those defenses, fortress layout, siege defenses, etc.; we won't be making use of them.
Like Minas Tirith
It’s a good day to be wrong
A beautiful video !
I would love to see more of this!!!!
The art and top down strategic views are awesome
Yes, more of this content would be great
I like these! Keep them up! :)
That was a fantastic video. Great work Invicta!
Also is there a way to know what musics you are using?
These are excellent
Great video! A little thing is the Chinese charaters on the laterns around 11:26 are literally meaning "Chinese charater".
Lmao did not spot that one! 🤣
Excellent audio and visual styling, perfect quality documentary! 😯🤩🤘
Would really appreciate if you further explore the world of Warhammer Fanatsy. 🤓
ad 20:46 - Absolutely interested :) Thank you.
Love the Warhammer content🔥🔥🔥
As someone entirely new to the 40k universe, this really has me interested. Its fascinating lore.
Warhammer 40k is the Sci-Fi sister universe of this, this is Warhammer Fantasy, of which Warhammer 40k was a spin-off at some point
@@Nikusarusan ah thanks. So are they related or two separate lores?
@@lamThinker they are related through the daemons of chaos, who are the same regardless of the setting, there is also clear parallels as in the Empire of Man being the Empire of Man (yes the names are the same), the Necrons being Tomb Kings and others. Usually 40k is played up to be way more bleak than Fantasy, since 40k started during the time of films like Blade Runner or other dystopian sci-fi settings and Fantasy is more like a spoof of Tolkien's worldbuilding, at least imo.
@@lamThinker chaos gods are the same. The Eldar are very similar to the elves of fantasy, and the imperium is kinda similar to the empire. Honestly though, the fantasy lore is a lot more enjoyable than 40k
wow ca should get you guys to introduce all races and cutscenes!
Keep it up it actually is quite interesting
credit to furious ming. They used his design for the Emperor's Shadow for the Fire Dragon.
7:03
Internal Schisms - Tzeentch
Rebellion - Khorne
Disease - Nurgle
People seem to be calling Cathay mary sue faction but they all fail to see this. In my view Cathay is falling from the inside, a huge castle built over a house of cards. The type of grimdark i love to see
More of these please
very high quality stuff ^^
clear explanation love this. more on total war war hammer lore please
Fabulous, just fabulous
Awesome. Had no idea you guys did warhammer units.
Always love warhammer fantasy, hope you liked making it and will chance making some more!
Yo! Any chance of doing one for the heirotitan from the Tom Kings?
Amazing video!