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  • The history and lore of Grand Cathay, the nature of its government and peoples are all too often blended with rumor and falsehoods by the time they reach the scholars of the Old World. But the truth of this distant Empire is such that it would likely not be believed.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 504

  • @TemplinInstitute
    @TemplinInstitute  2 роки тому +91

    We'll be live in one hour leading Kislev to absolute victory! Or defeat, but hopefully not. www.twitch.tv/templininstitute

    • @Banter07
      @Banter07 2 роки тому +6

      👍

    • @CinematicCraft4310
      @CinematicCraft4310 2 роки тому +2

      Can you do the adeptus mechanicus?

    • @gunxsword5732
      @gunxsword5732 2 роки тому +5

      I really love these videos, but I don't know where else to put this little observation.
      The audio cut short around 10:03-10:04. Hope you'll be able to fix that after upload.

    • @marvinvasquez9437
      @marvinvasquez9437 2 роки тому +2

      Are there standard dragons 🐉 in grand Cathay??

    • @TemplinInstitute
      @TemplinInstitute  2 роки тому +7

      @@gunxsword5732 oh damn, looks like an error in UA-cam processing? Not sure if we'll have any way to fix that.

  • @ekszentrik
    @ekszentrik 2 роки тому +517

    Grand Cathay is also the single source of pandas in the Warhammer world, making this realm of critical geostrategic importance.

  • @CalamityDiamond
    @CalamityDiamond 2 роки тому +292

    I knew nothing of Grand Cathay before this video, now I'm looking forward to playing them.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 2 роки тому +41

      They are one of those factions that have been in Warhammer Lore for decades, but never had any official models and were always just far off in the background. Honestly, I'm just happy to have a human nation in Warhammer that isn't disease-ridden, wallowing in poverty and drowning in filth

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 2 роки тому +9

      @@weldonwin I mean, Bretonnia was that before they got mega retconned lol.
      And Cathay still has plenty of Chaos corruption, Tzeentch cults, Beastmen, Skaven, Dark Elf raiders, etc. Not to mention everyone is expendable for their Dragon leaders.

    • @DccAnh
      @DccAnh 2 роки тому +13

      @@LordVader1094 still a good place to live when compare to everywhere else in their universe

    • @brainfreezzzze6900
      @brainfreezzzze6900 2 роки тому +1

      im looking forward to slaghtering them with chaos

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 2 роки тому +4

      @@LordVader1094 let's be real no matter who you work for in warhammer your probably expendable unless your with the dwarves or maybe high elves

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 2 роки тому +223

    "Those in other nations may deny it, but all mortals desire control. To be controlled, that is. Why else would they conjure those Northern God's that obsess over dominating the very creatures that brought them into being?" -- PRINCE YUAN BO, THE JADE DRAGON, RULER OF THE CENTRAL PROVINCES.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 2 роки тому +6

      Chaos God Loki: “Precisely!”

    • @pendragon0905
      @pendragon0905 2 роки тому +5

      The Analyst: The sheeple aren't going anywhere.

    • @tomthestone1470
      @tomthestone1470 2 роки тому

      Guy has it completely opposite

  • @thevoidlookspretty7079
    @thevoidlookspretty7079 2 роки тому +149

    “Marco Polair.”
    You’ve got to be kidding me.

    • @rd0676
      @rd0676 2 роки тому +25

      Can I copy your homework?
      Yeah just change a little bit so it’s not too obvious

    • @Shirtss
      @Shirtss 2 роки тому +14

      Wait till you hear about Sly Marbo

    • @anonymousmind8402
      @anonymousmind8402 2 роки тому +21

      To say that the name is unimaginative is to put it mildly.
      As another example, the inventor of the Empire's Steam Tanks is named "Leonardo of Miragliano". Still, could be worse - "Tiktaq'to" of the Lizardmen, anyone?

    • @tinkertaylorsoldierspy8664
      @tinkertaylorsoldierspy8664 2 роки тому +1

      Michael J Pox says hi too

    • @art-games6230
      @art-games6230 3 місяці тому +4

      @@anonymousmind8402I’ve done some world building myself and I gotta say, cut them some slack, naming things is VERY hard

  • @WilliamMosicki-Nystrom
    @WilliamMosicki-Nystrom 2 роки тому +256

    Factions I would like to see next:
    1. The Crimson Empire | Star Wars
    2. The Ogre Kingdoms | Warhammer Fantasy
    3. The Reapers | Mass Effect
    4. The SCP Foundation
    5. The Reich | Metro Universe

    • @bigbangrafa8435
      @bigbangrafa8435 2 роки тому +21

      If the Institute ever do an exposition on the SCP Foundation, a (REDACTED) event will occur, releasing a Keter-class entity aligned with (REDACTED) that can potentially end this universe through a memetic agent that may or not be a part of (REDACTED).
      *_If any D-class can remember reading the contents of this log, please contact your superiors for further examination._*

    • @loopslytle
      @loopslytle 2 роки тому +5

      The SCP is so full of excellent storytelling!

    • @natedlc854
      @natedlc854 2 роки тому +3

      I think they already did the Ogre Kingdoms

    • @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289
      @alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 2 роки тому +5

      I'd love them to cover the Metro factions

    • @josiahzabel8596
      @josiahzabel8596 2 роки тому +2

      I'd love to see The Crimson Empire too- but The Templin Institute has been lost to The Mouse like so many others...

  • @TheWhiteDragon3
    @TheWhiteDragon3 2 роки тому +174

    Slight correction on the sky fleet: the "carefully controlled fire" in the balloon is a caged vermilion war bird, a blazing hot creature related to the pheonix.

    • @theonesithtorulethemall
      @theonesithtorulethemall 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah but why put a firebird in a flamebil balon in the sky, when a normal fire wuld do???

    • @TheWhiteDragon3
      @TheWhiteDragon3 2 роки тому +21

      @@theonesithtorulethemall Because it's *cool* . Welcome to Warhammer, my friend

    • @magni5648
      @magni5648 2 роки тому +7

      @@theonesithtorulethemall Probably because the bird doesn't require taking as much fuel with 'em.

    • @WowItsErin
      @WowItsErin Рік тому

      You can train a fire bird to angle itself certain ways to gently “steer” the balloon. Not so for an open flame.

    • @draconomega
      @draconomega Рік тому +1

      ​@@theonesithtorulethemallbecause normal fire would be harder to mantain

  • @StreetLampStudios
    @StreetLampStudios 2 роки тому +92

    Honestly this was a nice break from the more intense videos, music was very peaceful and I felt at ease and enjoyed the fantasy china setting

  • @Tommy9834
    @Tommy9834 2 роки тому +823

    Wait, so the Dragon Emperor also don't like being worshiped as a God, has children who has their own factions they lead.
    Dragon Emperor really is the Fantasy version of the Emperor of Mankind. We should now refer him as "Big D"

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 2 роки тому +121

      The dragon emperor is just smarter and created belief system to replace believing in gods

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 роки тому +29

      @@chimera9818 not really. He's legendarily stupid for how faith in Warhammer works. Hes throwing away a titanic wealth of power, ultimately kind of making Cathay Irrelevant on the stage of gods. Faith is the only thing that can power gods of order and those are the most powerful entities in the world besides the chaos gods and the Slann. It would literally be the greatest power he could obtain for Cathay and he's throwing it away. + The way Warhammer works faith is the only thing that protects human souls from the chaos gods, as they don't have a god of death either Morr stretches himself thin to protect their souls or they just go to the chaos gods giving them a massive feeding ground.

    • @derbonuspool1274
      @derbonuspool1274 2 роки тому +92

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 He doesn't exist in the Aethyr so he wouldn't get power from believers

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind 2 роки тому +71

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 but it would also enslave him to what the people believe about him.

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind 2 роки тому +9

      @@derbonuspool1274 neither did sigmar.

  • @jianfongyaw
    @jianfongyaw 2 роки тому +170

    As a Malaysian Chinese guy, I like Cathay very much. It is quite heartwarming to see another country stand up and fight against the Ruinous Powers!
    The creativity used by CA to improvise Cathay makes it even more splendid, if not inspirational.

    • @Discotekh_Dynasty
      @Discotekh_Dynasty 2 роки тому +10

      It’ll be so cool to see more and more creatures from Chinese mythology added as time goes on with that nice Warhammer flair

    • @davidvangerner7241
      @davidvangerner7241 2 роки тому +4

      Imagine grand cathay in warhammer 40k

    • @StefanWeber-n6e
      @StefanWeber-n6e 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, i like that about Warhammer Fantasy. The good guys are not just "Europeans" (like in LotR) but all kinds of humans (basically from the real world Germans, French, Russians and Chines). Great thing.

  • @martinratagris
    @martinratagris 2 роки тому +189

    I am happy with the inclusion of Cathay as a faction, it's mechanics seem right up my alley and the lore about it is very interesting.
    A tiny part of me wishes we got the Dragon Emperor and the Moon Empress as legendary lords but the more I learn about them I come to realize it would be like playing chaos with Khorne or Tzeench.
    Now I have to wonder if in the future we may see more factions like not Japan for example.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 2 роки тому +20

      It would be more like playing with Sigmar pre-godhood or Nagash. The founding heroes of each faction are always OP, Aenearion with the Sword of Khaine would match him

    • @pendragon0905
      @pendragon0905 2 роки тому +10

      The makers say that Cathay and Kislev will be all we get for empires in the Far East; Warhammer III won't be featuring Nippon or Ind.

    • @Alex-pj8nz
      @Alex-pj8nz 2 роки тому +5

      @@pendragon0905 I suspect GW does have plans for the table top Cathay using the ivory road system which is why they are a faction in this game, fantasy Japanese and indi no plans at all.

    • @anonymousmind8402
      @anonymousmind8402 2 роки тому +5

      @@pendragon0905 A serious shame for that to be the case, though not entirely unreasonable considering that this is a semi-collab with GW to effectively promote Warhammer: The Old World.
      That said, CA did add Norsca and the Vampire Coast despite not being fleshed-out, standalone factions in the tabletop. So who knows what they may add next. Even if not Ind or Nippon, there may still be room for one more surprise.

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 2 роки тому +5

      @@Alex-pj8nz I mean the leaked map does have space for the snakemen of khuresh at least.
      Nippon and Ind are unlikely.
      I guess Nippon will be a feudal eastern power with alot of spirits and mysticism?
      What about Ind? Just a caricature of ancient India with elephants being pandered like kislev bears?

  • @mingchoi8369
    @mingchoi8369 2 роки тому +36

    Didn't expect them to see an unseen faction like Grand Cathay to be featured in Total War Warhammer, let alone be fully fleshed out. One can only imagine what other secrets in Grand Cathay might be revealed.

  • @Heisen2420
    @Heisen2420 2 роки тому +186

    The Empire of Man's reaction: " Well this is awkward"

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 2 роки тому +8

      That, or just a barrage of Cyclonic Torpedoes, for there is only one Lord of Mankind and he does not share power...

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +43

      @@weldonwin The Empire of Man was created by Sigmar, not the Man-Emperor of Mankind

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 2 роки тому +1

      @@rexlumontad5644 Who is theorised to be one of the two lost Primarchs, but mostly it was a comment on The Emperor being a tyrannical sociopath who would burn the entire Warhammer world to ashes

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +20

      @@weldonwin That one Sigmar being a Lost Primarch was popular use for crossover between 40k and Fantasy.
      Well, Emperor would definitely do that since it is a world saturated with Chaos energy that allowed Daemons to manifest post-Gateways of Old Ones collapse with the grounded version of Eldar siphoning most of it away through the Vortex.

    • @LtCWest
      @LtCWest 2 роки тому +5

      @@rexlumontad5644 I see you are a follower of Bruva Alfabusa as well ^^

  • @josea.moreno5125
    @josea.moreno5125 2 роки тому +76

    Older Than The Old Ones, thats part is veryyy undestated, The Old Ones played with the Planet as if it were nothing, The Dragon Emperor must be obscenely powerfull

    • @yehiahuzayyin7972
      @yehiahuzayyin7972 2 роки тому +39

      More accurately, he's not older than the Old Ones themselves, he just predates their coming by at least several centuries, but as the Old Ones were stated to have an interstellar empire by the time they came to the world, I'd say they're a lot older.

    • @yehiahuzayyin7972
      @yehiahuzayyin7972 2 роки тому +9

      Not to say he isn't obscenely powerful though, in fact, the only non-god I can see surpassing him would be a 1st generation Slann.

    • @josea.moreno5125
      @josea.moreno5125 2 роки тому +9

      @@yehiahuzayyin7972 Yeah, but he didnt got killed by the Lizardmen,The Slann or The Old Ones themselves, that in itself its fascinating

    • @josea.moreno5125
      @josea.moreno5125 2 роки тому +7

      @@yehiahuzayyin7972 If you can call Lord Kroak a young amateur and back it up, you are good

    • @yehiahuzayyin7972
      @yehiahuzayyin7972 2 роки тому +3

      @@josea.moreno5125 Lord Kroak is a 1st gen Slann, the oldest, in fact.

  • @YoderMemeIndustries
    @YoderMemeIndustries 2 роки тому +45

    Warhammer 40k: This nation is meant to be a specific human psychi and also as a criticism of-
    Warhammer Fantasy: *ANCIENT* *FUCKING* *CHINA!*

    • @khai96x
      @khai96x 2 роки тому +14

      More like Chinese Mythology than Ancient China. The Dragon Emperor is equivalent to the Jade Emperor, and the children of the Dragon Emperor are equivalent to Son of Heaven (i.e. Chinese Emperor)

    • @januskaisar4972
      @januskaisar4972 2 роки тому +8

      Cathay is literally the old medieval european word for China

    • @diezero2483
      @diezero2483 2 роки тому +1

      @@januskaisar4972 maybe a little bit later, cuz otherwise there would be only Rome and not Rome in the europe.

  • @JackRabbit002
    @JackRabbit002 2 роки тому +45

    Oh this is a video worth watching man Thank You always liked the snippets of info of Grand Cathy back in fantasy and now they've been fleshed out as a faction proper.
    I use to watch way to much Chinese Cinema growing up though so.....

  • @jeffreymikutis4576
    @jeffreymikutis4576 2 роки тому +19

    Those Cathay maps are eye candy, looking forward to Warhammer 3s release

  • @ananonymousnerd.2179
    @ananonymousnerd.2179 2 роки тому +108

    As a child of Chinese descent, I cannot be happier to get (any) lore for Cathay! If I do break my long-standing policy on not spending money on video games and got TW: WHIII, this would easily be my main faction. I just wonder now if 40K has something similar. Something like Vostroya and the Vostroyan Firstborn (themed around Russian culture), except for Chinese culture, maybe? I'm more than satisfied with just Cathay, though.

    • @pendragon0905
      @pendragon0905 2 роки тому +12

      This game has the Kislevites.
      How about them for fantasy Russians?

    • @JCDenton3
      @JCDenton3 2 роки тому +19

      I think White Scars are as close as you'll get for 40K, which is more "Yuan Dynasty" at best, but you can make your own chapter descended from the White Scars that is heavily Chinese themed, it would be awesome to see on the tabletop! Get creative!

    • @Renewablefrog1224
      @Renewablefrog1224 2 роки тому +9

      @@JCDenton3 This right here. The galaxy is a big place, and many Chapters of Astartes and legions of the Guard go unsung. Make your own if you want!

    • @Allofmynamestaken
      @Allofmynamestaken 2 роки тому +4

      The White Scars are awesome steppe nomad warriors which you can use but personally I think its a rather crude path to map onto China itself. Frankly, the excellent statesmen like qualities of the ultramarines or the defensive and implacable imperial fists would be far better chapters to make a successor descent from as their traits are more closely aligned with the majestry of previous chinese dynasties.

    • @richyhu2042
      @richyhu2042 2 роки тому +5

      Same story here! It's nice to see some representation in games where I don't need to pretend or customize a character to look Chinese or remotely Asian lol.
      And yeah, 40k doesn't have much for China outside the White Scars and maybe the Eldar who both take notes. Although the White Scars are very much Mongolian and not even Yuan Dynasty so your mileage may vary.
      For the people saying that they are Chinese, I can assure you that titles like Khan and Keshig are not originally Chinese. It would be like saying you can just use the British to represent Americans because America was a British colony historically, replacing the Minutemen with Redcoats and calling it a day. Close enough in the loosest sense but also definitely not correct

  • @andrewsever98
    @andrewsever98 2 роки тому +61

    Grand Cathay: The Imperium of Man if Jimmy Space had decided to get married.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 2 роки тому +8

      And wasn't a power mad, narcissistic sociopath

    • @pendragon0905
      @pendragon0905 2 роки тому +7

      The people who bred the God Emperor into existence should've given His Holiness a wife.
      Things would've been VERY different for the Imperium of Man... maybe for the better.

    • @the_corvid97
      @the_corvid97 2 роки тому +1

      @@pendragon0905 Well he kind of did, at the very least the Primarchs have a mother who is a Perpetual, it didn't go well.

    • @khai96x
      @khai96x 2 роки тому

      Ancient China still relies on number when fighting a war, so the average solder of the Imperial Guard is fucked regardless. Also, average citizen of the -Imperium- Celestial Central State have to strictly follow Confucius teaching now.

    • @pendragon0905
      @pendragon0905 2 роки тому +1

      @@the_corvid97
      Never heard of her 🤔

  • @emilianomerendino3311
    @emilianomerendino3311 2 роки тому +230

    Ah, extremely glad to see a so good description of not China. This sequence of Fantasy videos is making my 2022 extremely entertaining. Keep it up
    By the way, are the Monkey King and the Fire dragon the same charachters or different creatures? Because I understood also the former controls the southern territory

    • @jasperlim8319
      @jasperlim8319 2 роки тому +54

      The Monkey King and Fire Dragon are different. As for control, he's sort of like a bandit king. The Fire Dragon is the Imperial governor, but the Monkey King holds all the power in the region.

    • @yeeyee5057
      @yeeyee5057 2 роки тому +29

      Basically warhammer version of Sun Wu Kong/Ho Chi Minn, doesn't like the dragon emperor and sets up his bases in the mountains with his monke warriors, while the fire dragon presumably controls the lowlands of the region and defends the south from Ind and Khuresh. Don't doubt that either have fought before, but it's more like the Kislev political crisis, except much, much more violent and have been going on for a lot longer.

    • @Archris17
      @Archris17 2 роки тому +27

      @@yeeyee5057 There's also teh fact that the Monkey King is sometimes described as a beastman, yet has occasionally come to the Flame Dragon's aid against Chaos, so he's clearly more 'civilized' than the beastmen of the Old World. I think their relationship can be summed up as, "Best Frienemies."

    • @jasperlim8319
      @jasperlim8319 2 роки тому +4

      @@yeeyee5057 yeah, we dont know enough yet but I'd describe him as WHF's Tibet

    • @josephjones4771
      @josephjones4771 2 роки тому +6

      They're boyfriends! :V

  • @notasmith8163
    @notasmith8163 2 роки тому +52

    God bless CA for making Cathay into a playable faction rather than the offscreen Titan that they were before. It’s a real show of GW’s faith that they allowed this to happen, and clearly CA did not disappoint. Cathay’s lore is really fun!

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 роки тому +8

      CA didn't make that lore, it's based on the unreleased core book Cathay is gonna get in Warhammer the old world.

    • @notasmith8163
      @notasmith8163 2 роки тому +5

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 then GW did something positive for the first time in a long time :P

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 2 роки тому

      @@notasmith8163 I think they did have lore a long time ago, back in the old days of warhammer fantasy when GW still cared about the tabletop game.
      I am a bit annoyed that they didn't try to make Tilea and Estalia playable factions, I could see potential there, or Araby for that matter

    • @magni5648
      @magni5648 2 роки тому

      @@AeneasGemini Old Cathay lore was basically just a bunch of rumors and exotic tales in the p&p roleplaying game. Like, it was perhaps a page or two total.

    • @reidparker1848
      @reidparker1848 2 роки тому

      Screw GW.

  • @AtomicVisionary
    @AtomicVisionary 2 роки тому +4

    The Grand Cathay have to be my top favorite Warhammer Fantasy faction. I just love everything about them.

  • @or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS
    @or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS 2 роки тому +82

    it's just me or Cathay look like a truly stable nation in the Warhammer Fantasy world

    • @D-sQU1NTER
      @D-sQU1NTER 2 роки тому +28

      Bro it is. I used to think that if I was in this world I would rather live in the Empire(Sigmar's Empire) than Bretonnia my favorite faction because they mistreat their people. I, at least would have a chance in the empire xD. But then again they do frequently deal with civil wars, undead, vampires, beastmen,etc and ofc chaos if they invade. Cathay seems to be the most secured nation out of all nations in warhammer. Second is probably the wood elves nation.

    • @theonesithtorulethemall
      @theonesithtorulethemall 2 роки тому +9

      @@D-sQU1NTER nah, take the high elves they live forever and honestly have the most piece, since there many wars are over sutch a long time, there only problem is that there dying out

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +1

      @@D-sQU1NTER Hear hear

    • @moonflowerviewing91
      @moonflowerviewing91 2 роки тому +6

      @@D-sQU1NTER Aside from the skaven vermintide,the orge kingdoms and the forces of chaos all around them

    • @diezero2483
      @diezero2483 2 роки тому +4

      Cathay and Japan are the 2 nations that use the actual real world name in this fantasy world :p

  • @chimera9818
    @chimera9818 2 роки тому +13

    It seem this is the best kingdom to live Warhammer fantasy

  • @dwaugh2215
    @dwaugh2215 2 роки тому +86

    This is amazing! I never knew anything of he or factions like this until now and wondered if one day Games Workshop will produce this army to fit in the age of Sigmar.

    • @bigbangrafa8435
      @bigbangrafa8435 2 роки тому +17

      Age of Sigmar has cut anything that had personality of It's own from their universe after the End Times, all in fear of "stereotypes". Everything they do now is generic, but they will keep using old characters to sell the whole thing. Is really sad for me, that only came to know these characters years after the reboot, to see how things were better before.

    • @josephdeguzman3829
      @josephdeguzman3829 2 роки тому +13

      They're actually rebooting the Old World fantasy setting, abd Cathay is gonna be one of the factions

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 2 роки тому +4

      @@josephdeguzman3829 In theory it's a nice idea, in practice, I'm not going to build up expectations. The best thing to do is wait and see how they try to play it

    • @ahmadillo4959
      @ahmadillo4959 2 роки тому

      God I hope not.

    • @Druchii
      @Druchii 2 роки тому +7

      @@bigbangrafa8435 you clearly don’t play tabletop or know anything of the lore outside of what some little angry ‘lore’ (reading off of the Warhammer wiki) UA-camr tells you. Like I played 40k since 2004 and played fantasy for a few years before AoS. Try actually looking into AoS and the armies nowadays before seething. it’s far from generic if anything it’s 100x less generic than fantasy was and I loved fantasy since I had Druchii, Asrai and empire armies to prove it.
      But hmm yes the Lumineth and Idoneth are so generic in comparison to the Azur or Empire. Like you say AoS is generic when most of the old lore was based on real world places just fantasies… which you know… is pretty generic.
      Like seriously the AoS haters really need to grow up like you can still buy most of the old fantasy models (as they are useable in AoS) and they’ll be releasing new lines soon and no it wasn’t ‘better’ back in the day. The end times were certainly terrible but since AoS found it’s footing it’s comparable to the height of fantasy, nostalgia for something you didn’t have really can cloud your opinion like old lore was only ‘better’ because people just pick and chose the bits they preferred and ignored all the cheesy bits they hated.
      Edit: not to mention pretty much 80% of the Cathay lore is new and is made to the fit with the new old world line of models they’ll be doing. It’s not AoS it’s still fantasy… because fantasy is still a thing… people seem to forget that.
      Edit Edit: it’s also well known amongst TT players that AoS wasn’t implemented because ‘stereotypes’ or whatever nonsense you’ve read it’s because they could trademark everything in AoS whilst fantasy it was a lot harder as it was all generic.

  • @catcadev
    @catcadev 10 днів тому

    I'm super into the Warhammer Fantasy setting. I really like all the armies-- it's full of crazy, insane fantasy whatevers everywhere, yet at the same time models and the vibe is so very grounded. I love this setting and I hope it gets some more GW love!

  • @ImperialKnight770
    @ImperialKnight770 2 роки тому +7

    the fireworks shows Cathay has almost makes the trip worth it. Almost.

  • @l.o.r.esci-fi4896
    @l.o.r.esci-fi4896 2 роки тому +8

    Another Video to ease my Stress on my Homeworks! Thank you so much Templin, you truly are a Stress Giver and a Lifesaver! 💓 I love you and I thank you for Everything that you and your Organisation are Doing, Dedicating your Duties for the Other Alternate Timelines of Humanity! 💓
    Templin Invicta!

  • @terrorcop101
    @terrorcop101 2 роки тому +15

    You forgot to mention one thing: what's with all the floating rocks?

  • @zachthompson9976
    @zachthompson9976 2 роки тому +1

    These are absolutely some of the best warhammer lore videos I've ever seen! Fantastic work, I hope you'll continue making these

  • @Septagonbullet
    @Septagonbullet 2 роки тому +9

    No ratmen in sewers! Nono manthing! Just squeak-lie drug hallucinations.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 2 роки тому +7

    Never knew about this faction. Very interesting lore. Keep up the good work.

  • @robertgronewold3326
    @robertgronewold3326 2 роки тому +19

    They did such a good job with this faction.

    • @2ndhendrix631
      @2ndhendrix631 2 роки тому

      It's probably 25% of their customer base. They better did

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin 2 роки тому +13

    All Hail the -Man- Dragon Emperor of Mankind!!!

  • @NovaRuner
    @NovaRuner 2 роки тому +23

    So basically they are the fantasy version of China. Mythology and fantasy about that real nation mixed together and cranked up to 11

    • @randomelite4562
      @randomelite4562 2 роки тому +10

      Yes.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 2 роки тому +19

      Every Warhammer fantasy nation is "Fantasy Version of X"

    • @NovaRuner
      @NovaRuner 2 роки тому +7

      @@AeneasGemini very true. Good point.

    • @diezero2483
      @diezero2483 2 роки тому

      fun fact, you can find real world Chinese company using the name of Cathay :p.

  • @HugoIF
    @HugoIF 2 роки тому +11

    Marco Polare.... Sometimes warhammer lore isn't even trying XD

    • @nathanielclaw2841
      @nathanielclaw2841 2 роки тому +1

      bro, the god the warhammer version of japan prays to is named after a japanese car

    • @gustavohernandez5900
      @gustavohernandez5900 3 місяці тому

      ​@@nathanielclaw2841no. It's literally named after the Japanese word for Japan

  • @medkitzNo16
    @medkitzNo16 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video as always.
    Y'all are killing me that you still haven't made on of these for the kingdoms of Ulthuan.

  • @takebacktheholyland9306
    @takebacktheholyland9306 2 роки тому +19

    I really hope AOS takes a read out of Old chinese civil war books and add them here, stuff like the An Lushan civil war fits right at home in this world

    • @anonymousmind8402
      @anonymousmind8402 2 роки тому +8

      Speaking of AoS, one must wonder if the Celestial Dragons and/or their children had survived The End Times (much as we wish to never talk about that).
      If they did, would they someday find the Mortal Realms and play a part in the eternal struggle? Maybe even forged a Realm of their own - a new battlefield for the greater powers.

    • @magni5648
      @magni5648 2 роки тому +2

      The coming quasi-WHFB reboot Warhammer: The Old World will include Grand Cathay as a playable faction with their own army book and minitiatures. GW actually took lead in designing them alongside CA during the development of Warhammer:Total War 3.

  • @lucasmedeiros7881
    @lucasmedeiros7881 2 роки тому +7

    Catay has an amazing lore and this vídeo has been one of the best you guys ever made.

  • @Michael-bn1oi
    @Michael-bn1oi 5 місяців тому +1

    They only predate the Old Ones arrival, they *do not* predate the existence of the Old Ones.

  • @TheCJUN
    @TheCJUN 2 роки тому +5

    Hope to see a video on the Norsca. Thank you. 👍

  • @Evan-qn2cj
    @Evan-qn2cj 2 роки тому +9

    Really hope we get some books set in Grand Cathay, especially about the wars with the monkey king. With Warhammer the Old World coming out soon, it’s definitely a possibility

    • @Alex-pj8nz
      @Alex-pj8nz 2 роки тому +2

      Should have table top.

  • @heinzuwe5159
    @heinzuwe5159 6 місяців тому +2

    Fuck… this hyped me up to play grand Cathay

  • @zyanego3170
    @zyanego3170 2 роки тому +8

    Glory to Grand Cathay, glory to the Dragon Emperor!

  • @jasonmarines6106
    @jasonmarines6106 2 роки тому +1

    This video was an AMAZING video, especially love all the shots you guys took

  • @devantaraazof4365
    @devantaraazof4365 2 роки тому +4

    I would love to see contact between grand cathay and the empire

  • @MrLolguy93
    @MrLolguy93 2 роки тому +14

    Goddamn Mongorians - the Celestial Dragon Emperor

  • @沈啍
    @沈啍 2 роки тому +4

    Cathayan dragons: ancient magical mysterious scale-y serpent-like divine creatures.
    Sotek: ancient magical mysterious scale-y serpent-like divine creature.
    Could the lizardmen’s gods, the old ones, actually be related to or even same species as the Cathayan dragons?

  • @or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS
    @or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS 2 роки тому +2

    8:11 it's sun wukong the king of hyperactivity

  • @nickstone1167
    @nickstone1167 2 роки тому +3

    Bout to say "No gunpowder? Srsly?", and then there they are, the explosive beauties.

  • @MoltenUprisingMK
    @MoltenUprisingMK 2 роки тому +4

    Do one of the Changeling for either Warhammer Fantasy or 40k.

  • @galenwrathweld
    @galenwrathweld 2 роки тому +6

    Super excited for this

  • @AZOSSHISTORIAN
    @AZOSSHISTORIAN 2 роки тому +2

    I really enjoy your videos, especially those about Star Trek and Star Wars. Can you please make some videos about the Robotech franchise such as the Robotech Defense Force, the Zentradi, United Earth Government, the Southern Cross and the Invid?

  • @zachschwanck349
    @zachschwanck349 2 роки тому +4

    Can you please look at the Hobgoblin Khanate? They sound super interesting

  • @Arkaeus04
    @Arkaeus04 2 роки тому +1

    That warp stone desert is basically the Skaven holy land

  • @herbertvonbismarck8303
    @herbertvonbismarck8303 2 роки тому +3

    All we need now is the ogre kingdoms and slannesh

  • @Myrkin
    @Myrkin 2 роки тому +1

    20:48 No wonder Cathay endures invasion after invasion... There. Are. So. Many. Stairs.

  • @doublep1980
    @doublep1980 2 роки тому +17

    Wait, they finally decided to write some proper lore for Cathay at GW?!
    Well, took them only 30 years and the End Times to do it.....
    Better late than never, I guess.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 2 роки тому +1

      They actually did have proper lore, way back in the when times when they first came up with the idea for the faction (they even had models), but they were basically abandoned as a faction so the fell by the wayside (essentially forgotten)

  • @haydenmorgan-dunn3027
    @haydenmorgan-dunn3027 2 роки тому +3

    This is kinda a weird one but can you look into the peacekeepers from dying light 2.

  • @MW2proification
    @MW2proification 2 роки тому +18

    Could you do the Hive from Destiny, since the Witch Queen comes out in a week?

  • @zainredding3476
    @zainredding3476 2 роки тому

    So useful thanx, can't wait for the Monkey King DLC.

  • @FreeFallingAir
    @FreeFallingAir 2 роки тому +1

    This is just great! Can't get enough of these videos. Keep em coming, please:)

  • @かたわれ時-e7x
    @かたわれ時-e7x 2 роки тому +12

    Imagine if they did Liyue Harbour--
    Gah! Sorry, I was daydreaming again

    • @khai96x
      @khai96x 2 роки тому +2

      Both nations fought an interdimensional war over who is the better China, only for Zhong Xina to appear and annihilate them from orbit for failing social credit test.

    • @anonymousmind8402
      @anonymousmind8402 2 роки тому +4

      I will not lie, I would like to see Templin cover Liyue or Mondstadt. However, if the above reply comment is anything to go by, any video on Genshin Impact (or any gacha game for that matter, especially Chinese-made ones) will be swarmed by hostility for several reasons. So this may well remain a daydream.

    • @diezero2483
      @diezero2483 2 роки тому +2

      you can make this mod yourself, since somebody already made waifu mod for Miaoying :p

  • @IronVigilance
    @IronVigilance 2 роки тому +2

    In a world conquered by undead soldiers commanded by vampires, Orks, Giant Bears, and literal real life Demons:
    "You saw a Dragon? PPPPFFFTTTT oKaY!!! lmao, I'll see you guys later, I gotta deal with a dwarves who are mining under gigantic mammoth carcasses."

  • @Vsm426
    @Vsm426 2 роки тому +3

    TI never fails to amaze me

  • @willkuehler8918
    @willkuehler8918 2 роки тому +6

    Why did no one tell me that Sun Wukong is in Warhammer?

  • @Allofmynamestaken
    @Allofmynamestaken 2 роки тому +3

    "1 in 10 trade caravans make it back". Presumably 1 in 5 make it one way but not the other in the best case scenario. But even still, how would this ever be profitable or viable as a trading system?

  • @lucianheart3727
    @lucianheart3727 2 роки тому +2

    I want more about the Monkey King! 🐒 👑

  • @theeutecticpoint
    @theeutecticpoint 2 роки тому +4

    Grand Cathay vs the Humongous Karen?

  • @truongdangmanh7471
    @truongdangmanh7471 2 роки тому +2

    Basically what Cathay Pacifics aspires to become :xD.

  • @steadyjumper3547
    @steadyjumper3547 2 роки тому +4

    All we need in India and Japan knockoffs and the east map will feel complete. Imagine warrior monks that fight with martial arts and 2 headed giant elephants and multi arm warriors.

    • @Ty-ie2mi
      @Ty-ie2mi Рік тому +3

      Well, there is, to the east of Grand Cathay, the island nation of Nippon ( the name for Japan in the past and used by the modern day Japenese themselves) and the Kingdom(s) of Ind in the roughly southwest to south of Grand Cathay.
      All we know of Nippon is there are there are Samurai and the Skaven Clan Eshin learned the how to be Ninjas from them.
      As for Ind, it is called the, "Land of 1,000 gods." And is filled with so many Indian flavored themes of Beastmen.

    • @somerandommen
      @somerandommen 5 місяців тому +1

      Ind and Nippon are both countries in Warhammer... so, they've already got that covered

  • @sirunklydunk8861
    @sirunklydunk8861 2 роки тому +3

    Minor correction at 7:34, Yin-Yin is a woman

  • @claytontindell9939
    @claytontindell9939 2 роки тому +3

    RESPECT THE EMPRAH!

  • @jdfigs5916
    @jdfigs5916 2 роки тому +5

    Here be dragons

  • @user-dd8vo7or2d
    @user-dd8vo7or2d 2 роки тому

    Can't wait for Nippon and their jacked up Yari Ashigaru

  • @CinematicCraft4310
    @CinematicCraft4310 2 роки тому +4

    Yo can you do adeptus mechanicus ?

  • @kaiserblood6880
    @kaiserblood6880 2 роки тому +7

    So anyone want to bet they are going to bring in the Nippon Factions in the first DLC and learn the way of the warriors

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind 2 роки тому +4

      They probaly bring chaos dwarves first.

    • @romu_umu4681
      @romu_umu4681 2 роки тому +2

      they already said they don't have any plans with nippon

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 2 роки тому +1

      I'd honestly prefer that they do proper factions for Tilea and/or Estalia, proper mercenary factions would be great. I'd also love some stuff for Araby, that place has deep lore and some interesting magic, would be good to see it in play

    • @kaiserblood6880
      @kaiserblood6880 2 роки тому

      @@AeneasGemini well my buddy is stepping out of his comfort zone with the total war series because I hope they add Nippon for him because he a big fan of Shogunate 2

    • @makeytgreatagain6256
      @makeytgreatagain6256 2 роки тому

      @@AeneasGemini I’m sick and tired of Euro factions they better focus on eastern factions if I want to play a euro faction I’ll play my beloved brettonia, and if I’m feeling silly I’ll play as uncouth empire, barbaric Kislev or the infidel norsca.

  • @johnp8830
    @johnp8830 7 місяців тому +1

    LOVE IT!

  • @eternal5930
    @eternal5930 2 роки тому

    Idea:
    Golden Empire of Yi Ti | A Song of Ice and Fire

  • @chilliewhk
    @chilliewhk 2 роки тому +2

    Mmm glorious content

  • @jeeshadow1
    @jeeshadow1 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent video although I think the Sea Dragon is a woman? Although she is also known as the Lord of the Eastern Provinces which is interesting!

  • @Pridefallen975
    @Pridefallen975 2 роки тому

    Fire,Jade,Sea,Storm and Iron Dragons wow 😲😳 I wonder 🤔 what else they have

  • @thomas.02
    @thomas.02 2 роки тому +3

    tell me you're playing ancient China without telling me you're playing ancient China

  • @shahansindhi8141
    @shahansindhi8141 2 роки тому

    Mushu (character) lives in a world where the Emperor is a "supercomputer robot" who does all the work.
    (We've come a long way!)

  • @goransekulic3671
    @goransekulic3671 2 роки тому +2

    ...sorry, but those maps are BEAUTIFUL! I don't know how they will play, but I half don't care. This is EVERYTHING I ever wanted from Warhammer, how can I object? Like: (History + Fantasy) * 10 or something. And tone down the amount of skulls, come on, it is edgy 13y old stuff. I am alright with them being ample in, idk, Chaos Wastes or something, but not EVERYWHERE!
    Regardless, the art team really outdid themselves here!

  • @DABViktor
    @DABViktor 2 роки тому

    Thank you the English subtitle.

  • @kirk7528
    @kirk7528 2 роки тому +1

    Love the Warhammer content

  • @useurname123
    @useurname123 2 роки тому +1

    can you guys do TEC from sins of a solar empire?

  • @dantauche7917
    @dantauche7917 2 роки тому

    Awesome video!

  • @StarScapesOG
    @StarScapesOG 2 роки тому +4

    Sooo.... China, if magic were real?

  • @podemosurss8316
    @podemosurss8316 2 роки тому +1

    6:01 What? A city whose name includes the particle "nan" (meaning South) capital of the NORTHERN provinces?

  • @RuudDevil
    @RuudDevil 2 роки тому +1

    Cathay Eternal!

  • @kensamazeez254
    @kensamazeez254 2 роки тому +2

    Is this the fantasy version of the Tau?

  • @Conejoazul2018
    @Conejoazul2018 2 роки тому +4

    They would probably fit pretty well within age of sigmar.
    Magic has become completly necessary for all nations.
    Too bad all cathayans may have end up in the realms of chaos....

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 роки тому

      Yeah that's my main issue with them. They just thematically fit more into age of Sigmar then Warhammer fantasy.

    • @anonymousmind8402
      @anonymousmind8402 2 роки тому

      Not entirely unreasonable to consider. From what I found, the Celestial Dragons and their children fled and disappeared to who-knows-where at The End Times. With their apparently vast power, it may not be impossible for them to survive and rebuild elsewhere in the universe - maybe even a new Realmsphere.
      Would make for an interesting story between them and the likes of Sigmar and the Grand Alliance of Order, maybe even payback the forces of Destruction (i.e. Ogres, Goblins, Giants and especially the Orks, considering the latter played a large part to Grand Cathay's fall).

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 роки тому +1

      @@anonymousmind8402 they are just emperor dragons. They are powefull in comparison to your normal person and might even pose w threat to an entire knightly order, but on the scale of gods that AOS operates in (without a massive power boost ) they wouldn't be that important. And as they are creatures of the celestial winds they would probably be servants to Sigmar. Tough you could handwave yeah with absorbing magical energies and the like.
      They could be around as powefull as people think they are, if they made themselves worshipped deities, but that would change their characters to represent what the believers think they do (like let's say the dragon emperor would be seen as wise and kind and he'd become incapable of being self serving or cruel even if he needs to be ).

  • @NewGuy2534
    @NewGuy2534 Місяць тому

    I truly believe the Monkey King was an effective leader, and his downfall if just Dragon propaganda.

  • @sircrumpleness
    @sircrumpleness 2 роки тому

    great job!

  • @paulvmarks
    @paulvmarks 2 роки тому

    Excellent.

  • @Pridefallen975
    @Pridefallen975 2 роки тому

    Temple Institute please do the Kingdom Of Araby my favorite nation

  • @ryanswma
    @ryanswma 3 місяці тому

    I know I'm late, but does anyone know the soundtrack used in the background?

  • @owenparris7490
    @owenparris7490 2 роки тому +21

    I'm just gonna say it, it's going to be awkward when the Institute inevitably investigates Lustria and has to talk about the Pygmies...
    (If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up Pygmies on the WH Fantasy wiki.)
    Edit: Personally, in my headcanon, there are people of color from the New World and Southlands who don't look like outdated stereotypes, and many have moved north into the Empire and other nations, where they're treated the same as everyone else in human society.

    • @razagan1343
      @razagan1343 2 роки тому +2

      0.0 Good lord that is... something

    • @owenparris7490
      @owenparris7490 2 роки тому +1

      @@razagan1343 Yeah....it's messy. However, I think there are realistic-looking people in Lustria, too.

    • @darken2417
      @darken2417 2 роки тому +2

      Don't be so sensitive. If the stereotypes aren't accurate then just think of them as a fantasy species. No one complains about Leprechauns being Irish stereotypes or Strigany being Gypsies but actually evil so just embrace the controversy.

    • @owenparris7490
      @owenparris7490 2 роки тому +3

      @@darken2417 I don't see why I can't have my own headcanon on the subject.

    • @JackRabbit002
      @JackRabbit002 2 роки тому +2

      They're not Pygmies they're Forest Halflings!!! 😁
      Yeah this day and age though I couldn't even see them going back to Amazon's.....and as a big Blood Bowl fan! 😭