(91)The Detroyat Class
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Detroyat Class, as first seen in the FASA Manuals! I hope you enjoy!
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I believe the first captain of a vessel of this class was Captain Dan Akroyd, a decendant of Dan Akroyd the actor who once played "Doctor Detroit" in a not-so-great comedy film in the 1980s.😁🖖🏼
LOL Ba doom tssss :P
that would be awesome and funny
Please keep covering the FASA material. That's the biggest gap in my Trekkie experience and I enjoy the stories you craft around them
I can see this ship existing in rescue recovery and rebuilding all too well as, today, there are many countries that have been attempting to have seagoing ships built to do the same thing. Although these attempts have been going on for decades I can see it eventually happening. Were it to actually happen it sure would give this backstory some serious historical clout.
Man, thank you! It always puts a smile on my face to see these as you have a talent for weaving together a wonderful narrative. I hope you have a wonderful one!
You're welcome Jaspr, and you liking the content I put out always puts a smile on MY face :) Take care!
I enjoyed it
I really like what you did here. I read that the Detroyat was a problematic and very disliked ship due to its structure and technical problems. But this really makes it into a valiant and cool class of ship. Thank you!
Thank you so much George :)
Always nice to have a Monday morning video to watch. Thanks!
My pleasure :)
Loved it. Let's get more FASA ships into Beta Canon. How about one on the Churchill class.
One day, if I can, I will... Im limited by available access to 3D models... And currently Space Engine does not have that Particular one! But they are constantly adding more, so stay tuned :)
Beautiful ship and nice rendering.
I like this ship the overall design can be made to serve a lot of purposes like a medical rescue ship that can transport huge numbers of injured people and it would be stocked with 20 to 30 special medical shuttles in case transporter interference but great job on this video very interesting as always👍🤓
During my bit playing F.A.S.A's R.P.G. I used this class as a battle cruiser. I gave it a more full secondary hull, moved the nacelle's back a bit, added more phaser emitter's and torpedo tubes. Then renamed it the Athena class after the Greek goddess of combat. It was a fun ship.
I love your beta cannon! The refit for this class sounds like a ship I'd like to be on.
Thank you so much :)
It’s great that you’re delving into the starships of FASA, and this is a terrific starting point. I’d love to see a video about the _Loknar_ class starship.
As more starship models from FASA become available, Ill be able to dive in a LOT more :) Right now, no Loknar Class :(
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Oh, very well. :P ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics The Detroyat class has got to be in Strange New Worlds along with ships that never made it in the OS.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well done and very nicely informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided by you on the Detroyat Class, A job very fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.
Thx David.. 🙏
You're welcome Edward...
Another excellent video! Love the history you've created for this class ship!
Fantastic bits of universe-buildong with these Beta-canon videos. Hope to see videos on the Typhon-class carrier and Abbe-class torpedo destroyer someday!
Thank you, and probably one day you will :)
Hello TAS
I find it interesting that you and I have had the same idea, but many decades apart. I used to play Star Fleet Battles back in the 80's and 90's. A friend supplied me with a chart for making changes to ships and their associated equipment and hulls. As well as Engines, Drives, Shields, etc.
I took the Detroyat Class and expanded it's Secondary Hull by about 40%. I had a dozen such ships converted from their original specs and to my own specifications.
Some of the changes... Twin fore and single aft torpedo launchers, doubling the number of fighter craft and pilots (as well as replacements), and the addition of small Industrial Fabricators.
The Fabricators were there for making needed parts and spares, as well as providing (over time) enough parts and pre-fabbed structures to build replacement Fighters as needed.
All of this did come at a cost though, and even with an upgraded Warp Core, no improved speed was possible. But, if one of my Detroyat ships got near an asteroid field, I could 'top off' anything needed in short order.
Once I had the first dozen in service, I created a version that was like your 2nd build ships... mobile factories for colonies and such. I built well over 2 dozen over time, and especially thought I was clever in sending them to systems without habitable worlds to 'dredge' their asteroid fields to provide my Fleet with a source of supplies and parts that, to my enemies, seemed to come from nowhere.
I suppose I could have used the standard Detroyat class ships for all this, but you know how it is... gotta 'tinker' with the designs!
Love these different ships and love a lot of the fasa designs.
Glad you like them! :)
Another Ship that needed to be in the TOS series!!!
I'd very much like to see a video on the fighters that the Federation fielded in that class. Or any other fighter class vessel in the Federation.
As a future possible follow-up to this video, you might consider the Menahga class Heavy Destroyer from Mastercom Data Center, which was a Movie-era design heavily influenced by the Detroyat Class (I believe it was an all-new class in-universe and not a refit of the Detroyat frames).
This is great. I love your well balanced and succinct world building you do for these beta cannon videos. If you're going to do Fasa ships have you considered the Andor class? Thats always been one of my favorite fasa ships.
Sadly, Im limited to the 3D models I have access too... Though I have an "in" with the Space Engine Model Creator, I still have to wait for classes to be added... Thus right now, No Andor Class! And thank you so much :)
This class would go down great to rebuild the fleet or even utopia planetia after the sinth attack.. great video as always.
Well... this I had never heard of.
SURPRISE!!!!
Okay, from first glance in my head I saw a 23rd Century version of the Saber class starship with how the secondary hull looks and the boxy section at the back of the saucer - but that is what I immediately saw from first glance, another sort of inspiration for Starfleet engineers to take design aspects from for a quick and easy ship to build especially for war against the Borg and the Dominion in the 24th century.
Another plus for me what I love in the 23rd Century ship designs are the spikes on the bussard collectors, I don't know why but I htink they look awesome on them.
A ships class diesnt have to look as graceful as their top of their line starships, if it is able to carry out the job that the designers want it to do then the look isn't really that much of importance (except in some designs that can be seen as questionable).
The decision of having the class going from a caarier starship to an outpost/starbase rebuild/repair vessel and constructor of new facilities in the expanding territory of the Federation that can defend itself as well, thats a great feat in itself.
This is the first I am actually hearing or even seeing this class of vessel and it looks like a fun ship to serve on
Unusual design.
Good work! Good graphics and a well thought out back story🖖
Glad you enjoyed it Kelvin! Thank you :)
first thing i thought of was the later Saber class . At least now I know what a TOS version of the Saber class looks like .
The boxy shaped secondary hull just reminds me of a cargo ship 1st seen in the animated series.
Indeed it does, you can see a clear Starship Lineage :)
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Luv FASA, weird compared to modern stuff but takes me back to the SFC games a bit
I love it too :)
Awesome Video Love this carrier class ship, I have always wondered why StarFleet never seemed to developed the carrier it would have made sense. I do like how they reused this ship but I still think a carrier should have been obviouse specially when you look back at the dominion war they had to KitBash Carriers out of spare excellcior class ships . Thanks again for an awesome video. =)
When everyone uses a primary weapon that can instapop any fighter do you really want to send fighters at them ? Starfleet only ever uses fighters when they are desperate.
You're very welcome Mr Reaper ;)
I look at this ship and just think this is the sabre classes great grandfather
Thank you very (Episode 199) Truth OR Myth BETA- The Detroyat Class
I love that your digging into the Fasa Ships, I loved a lot of those
Given the explosive growth of the Federation, one would think that new-build ships like this class would be built to take these 4 ships' place in the fleet...
I really love how you went creative on the background of this ship. I remember it seeing the FASA version once on a con in my hometown, as a teen. Sadly the con didn't survived the times but what i remember where a lot of Trek loving, model redesigning and kitbashing people discuss this ship. So this was a neat little allmost 20+ years throwback for me. :)
Adds more "Tri" canon to Trek, love it. Do like to hear more about the lower NCC's :) but if it's in the FASA manual would it not also be canon or do they have to appear on the show/movie's?
Canon, Also known as Alpha Canon is only that which is seen on screen in episode or movie form, branded as Trek by the owners of Trek. It's also the only thing that actually matters. Everything else, including Beta Canon, which is licensed material, have no weight in actual Star Trek lore :)
While I don’t like this starship design, I do love the history you created for this ugly duckling. Keep up the great work.
I will do my best :P
This ship reminds me of a bigger Centaur class. Or a modified Yorktown class from Star Trek Legacy.
Yes awesome love the stories about building block support ships. Daebalus ship itself
Always disliked fighters and carriers in Star Trek but this was a really neat design and as always, you weave a wonderful story with it.
Have you done anything with the study models of the Excelsior class? The long thin ones that show up in the Surplus Depot in Unification? They’re pretty neat designs that could worked into transwarp prototypes or failed constellation class sister ships
Thank you so much 😀 And no not yet, but I might in the future :) All depends if I can get my hands on the 3D models ;)
This would make a cool ship in STO.
Indeed it would, though I doubt they'd purchase the rights to use it!
Resembles the Saber class.
Yes I can see the lineage ;)
As soon as I saw this design, it made me recall the angular secondary hull, I first saw in the one-off
magazine issue of Starship Design magazine, where the feature article was about Starfleet's attempt at a
"battlecruiser" design that had several design issues, in the ST TMP design style. It was also referred in some tech books
of the day, that no one seems to produce anymore. This is going back at least 20+, possibly 30 years ago.
I'm not at home as I write this so, I can not refer to my archive.
But, I'm sure there are some ST starship tech nerds out there that know what I'm talking about.
The Detroyat class is a really cool looking Starship a really amazing design
Can we someday get a video on Starfleet Fighters/Escort ships?
it would be great to have a playlist only with videos related to ships and others with TOS design
I feel like it wouldn't be that hard for Starfleet engineers to slap on a curvy outer hull to appeal to Command and sell more ships, lol. I know you gotta keep to the original design, but I always wonder where these ideas come from in universe. You wouldn't deviate so much from the fleet aesthetic like that.
It always makes ships like the Oberth and Steamrunner really look like the odd ones out compared to everything else.
Wow, this is really like a TOS Shenzhou.
Never even heard of this ship! Great video as always.
Oh wow, FASA!! I had so much fun with those games. I really dig your world building with these videos, especially the TOS based material. Thank you!
Im a big fan of the invisible impulse engines.
i think the uss shenzhou from star trek discovery could have been a detroyat class ship if the series had been in the TOS style both designs are quite similar though different the description that the shenzhou is an old ship but still works the it takes where they need it because it fits well with the detroyat class, due to its design of the bussard collector of warp engines it can be assumed that it began to be built more or less at the time when pike was in command of the enterprise, and considering that the series discovery is only 10 years before the original series, it could make sense what I say.
it's a beautiful ship 😊
Had some paper “blueprints” of the Detroyat I ordered in the early-mid 80s. Still have em!
I never see the ships of Star Fleet and the ships of Discovery ever being in the same universe. They are just so different in design to me. I do like how you fill in their histories with these vids. That is the good about these, but the disco ships are the bad in these.
I remember a.similar class based on the Excelsior Class called the Ingram Class I think
ty David...nice..
Great video, as always! Though I‘m not sure I really like either the Fasa or Franz Joseph designs. But I guess that has a lot to do with coming on.board more with TNG than with TOS…
I never knew about that extra heavy phaser
You should cover the Soyuz class too. Nice vid
BSG has one the best space aircraft carriers,next would be the B5 space station.
Reminds me of the saber class
I think some one in starfleet was a Star Wars fan.
Thanks David for your contribution and support of this channel.
Quick question for Mr Tri. When you list the stats for these classic ships do you use the warp standard of the time or the new TNG standard?
Yes, Warp Scale of the time!
FASA had some really great ship designs. They also had some bonkers looking originals and kit bashes that made no sense but you could cherry pick good looking fleets across all the factions.
"Has been rendered incorrect" - That's a really nice way of saying modern trek botched the four years war adaptation badly. ; D
Loved the video, glad to see FASA ships continue to get the attention and love they deserve, but am I crazy or is the Detroyat class lacking an impulse drive? I dont have any of the old books anymore sadly to cross check. : (
LOL no Rue, it's not :P I respect both Beta and Alpha Canon, but Alpha Canon gets priority... There was no botching occurring, merely the actual owners of the IP made a different history canon! :P
And of course it has an Impulse Drive :P Just the creator of the model seems to have forgotten to include it ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I grew up playing fasa trek along side dnd as a young 'in so I admit I have a bias toward the four years war so was not a giant fan of the one year war story arc
(mostly because we barely got to see much of it and it kind came off as an after thought in Disco season 1).
I most definitely understand the feeling in regards to Head Canon :)
I'd like to see something about the Mitannic/M'nahga Class
I like this, I like this a lot.
Hello! I have to say that I love your Truth or Myth series and I was wondering if I could make a ship suggestion?
I would like to suggest an alternate design of the Constitution class from the 2009 movie. The design is known as the "Kelvinprise". It's basically a version of the Constitution class that has the design aesthetic of the Kelvin and the rest of the fleet. I have found a few images of it online and I also have a resin model kit of it if you need pictures of it. I think the lore for it could be similar to what you did for the TOS Constitution class. Where the original USS Constitution was completed before the Enterprise but it didn't have the advancements in technology that the Enterprise had.
I like it.. never heard of it, bui I like it LOL
Do the Norway class
So this ship could also be called Detroit class lol
Very intresting. I like the concept, but it just looks unfinished to me. Guess its the boxyness.
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personally in my headcannon i like to think that both the 4 years war and the war in DISCO happened. after all picard states that there was decades of war with the klingons. and the two wars a depicted very differently. no one can accuse of the klingons doing the same thing twice.
Of course head canon is great, I also have my own... But of course, Canon itself shows us the 4 Years War didnt happen... So as long as we know our Head Canon is Meaningless its ALL good :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics aye its great to see you give these old gems the recognition they deserve.
I really love starship designs, as Im sure you know, So I absolutely LOVE making these particular videos :)
I didn't see any impulse engines.
I always misread the name as Destroyat.
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this class looks like the uss ariess from axanar!
LOL not really, but I wouldnt be surprised if they "took" visual cues from this class :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics same shape but this ship has more of an under belly. Take this ship and lose a lot of its bulk and you have the ship I'm referring too. But its a good video!
Thank you... And the same could be said about a LOT of classes seen in both Alpha and Beta Canon... So you'd have to talk to them about where They "got" their inspiration for the Ares Fan Fiction design... It could be this class, as it's been around for about 4 decades... But only they would actually know!
Did you get the chance to read my question in the last video?
I did, but I dont usually reply to any comments on my Beauty Shots videos as I tend to use those release dates to work my real job, and take some time away... Besides, I didnt see how your question had anything to do with the video that was released...
can you make a playlist of all the star trek starship episodes??
There already is... Under my Playlists Section... ua-cam.com/video/y5TTB-1FFns/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TriAngulumAudioStudios
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics oh thank you! i didn't see that when i checked for some reason
All good! Though Id skip the first chunk of my earlier videos, as I was just learning back then, and they arent the best ;) :P
Seems to be quite flat saucered and undefined a bit. But not all can be winners.
I kind of like it tbh!
um...how does this thing move sub-light? There are NO impulse engines or anything else to move it...
Sorry, you are incorrect, there ARE Impulse Engines!
Man Cant Have SHIT in Detroyat
200ish by 100 something meters?? That's not very big for a star ship. Maybe a runabout...
Huh, that's pretty big actually, the TOS Enterprise was only 288 meters long... The Runabout is only 23 meters long...
Actually it would around the size of the Raven as it was seen in Voyager.
@Incogni-Bro The Raven was only (depending on the source) 90-105 Meters long... So it would be twice or more it's length...