I really enjoyed the history portion of this video - it gave a lot of context as to why these stats exist (and why there are so many!). Excellent video as always!
Well done and well explained. I got thrown in at the deep end long go when asked to "volunteer" to score at a mid range level and have been engrosse since (that's over 50 years). There's one statistic that baseball officials do not seem to realise makes the sport different to all others (that I'm aware of). IT is the Sacrifice and no other sport credits a player with an official statistic for being a team player.
Lots of sports have an assist stat. The player doesn't lose anything, except maybe the chance to score themself. I can't think of another sport where a stat like that would even make sense. The closest thing I can think of is an intentional handball in soccer to save a winning goal, conceding an automatic red card, but hoping your goalkeeper can save the penalty. It's basically cheating though, so not really stat worthy.
A relief pitcher can also get a save if “he enters the game with the tying run in the on-deck circle, at the plate or on the bases” or “pitch at least the last three innings” Great video bro.
Funny thing about the definition of error at 7:28. Consider this situation: runner on second, line drive to left field. Left fielder throws the ball to third, but the third baseman misplays the ball, and the runner on second goes to third (maybe the batter goes to second, maybe not; I don't think it matters). Does this count as an error? The play shouldn't have resulted in an out; it should have resulted in the runner being held at second, but instead you have runners on first and third or second and third. Feels like it should be an error, but by that definition, it seems like it's not.
I don’t think I’ve said this before but man your videos are such a vibe. Kind of the ramped up 80s dance song to Jon Bois’ 80s soft jazz, in terms of sports videos.
If a batter hits a sacrifice and a player on 2nd base can tag up to 3rd base there is no statistical differentiation between that and an out, correct? Or likewise on the rare occasion they advance from 1st base to 2nd base as well. I guess advancing the runner but not scoring him would only be factored in advanced statistics?
14:13 - So GIDPs do not count toward RBIs, but what about other double plays? I could imagine a scenario where a ball is hit on a line to an infielder, caught, and while a second runner is being doubled up, Elly De La Cruz tags from third and scores... We need an answer to this controversy before it happens!
This is way harder than getting into basketball 😂 usually if someone brings up stats this much in basketball you just call them a nerd. still, learning new things is fun
The error is different in that an error is seen as a mess up on the part of the defense whereas a FC is basically an indication of a poorly struck ball on the part of the batter.
Thanks Peter for explaining. That's right. An error is when the defense makes a mistake -- like overthrowing the ball, or missing an easy catch. The idea there is that if a batter gets on base because of a mistake, the pitcher shouldn't be penalized with the hit, and the batter shouldn't be awarded with a hit. So, for the pitcher and batter, errors are treated as if they didn't happen for statistical purposes. The error is charged to the defense and to the fielder who the official scorer thinks made the mistake. A Fielder's Choice is when the defense chooses to put out a runner other than the batter. So it's a conscious decision. Usually it's when there's an easy forceout, or when they're trying to stop a run from scoring. This is an out on the field and functions the same as an out when calculating the batter and pitcher's individual statistics, even though the batter made it to base. Also: it's not uncommon for a Fielder's Choice to end up being an error! This happens pretty frequently, actually. Maybe the second baseman chooses to toss the ball to the shortstop to get the forceout at second base, but overthrows the ball. Not uncommon at all. This goes into the book as a Fielder's Choice for the batter and pitcher and an Error on the throw or the catch.
@@Maazin5 and it’s not so much they use the number of outs… it’s more that the equations are set up in a way where certain events are divided by plate appearances, at bats, etc., so outs count for/against those stats but they’re not directly part of the equation. An error is not treated as an at bat or a plate appearance, so errors don’t even make those equations. Meanwhile, a Fielder’s Choice does count as an at bat and a plate appearance, but not a hit, so a fielder’s choice increases the denominator but not the numerator on stats like batting average, obp, slg and whip So it’s not that outs are explicitly included… They are included implicitly, I guess you could say. Next video gets into all of this
Dude could you do one on NFL on how and why the yards thing happens I’ve been watching nfl in Australia for about2 yrs and I just find it hard to understand being bought up on rugby league and rugby union and from what I’ve seen Nfl came from rugby union? If you know what I mean
Sacrifice flies are silly. Nobody _attempts_ to get a sacrifice fly. If a batter hits a homer he won't say "I didn't want that, I just wanted to get a sac fly"
It’s not that he’s *attempting* to get a sac fly necessarily, it’s that he’s *attempting* to put the ball in play. And yes, guys do attempt to advance the runner home from third to score a run. Sure they won’t wish their hr was a sac fly but they might be behind in the count, or in a slump or whatever. They’re simply trying to put the ball in play and drive in a run. I guess I just don’t understand your logic here as to why it’s silly? Sacrifice is a big part of the game. Maybe you haven’t played competitively, which is totally fine, but don’t knock something unless you can offer a little better justification than whether or not he attempted to do it.
I really enjoyed the history portion of this video - it gave a lot of context as to why these stats exist (and why there are so many!). Excellent video as always!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
The funny thing is, Henry Chadwick was born in Devon, England, and was a cricket reporter and cricketer, before he was famous in Baseball.
Well done and well explained. I got thrown in at the deep end long go when asked to "volunteer" to score at a mid range level and have been engrosse since (that's over 50 years).
There's one statistic that baseball officials do not seem to realise makes the sport different to all others (that I'm aware of). IT is the Sacrifice and no other sport credits a player with an official statistic for being a team player.
Lots of sports have an assist stat. The player doesn't lose anything, except maybe the chance to score themself. I can't think of another sport where a stat like that would even make sense. The closest thing I can think of is an intentional handball in soccer to save a winning goal, conceding an automatic red card, but hoping your goalkeeper can save the penalty. It's basically cheating though, so not really stat worthy.
please finish this 😢 incredible way to put all of this together
A relief pitcher can also get a save if “he enters the game with the tying run in the on-deck circle, at the plate or on the bases” or
“pitch at least the last three innings” Great video bro.
These videos bring joy to my life. Keep up the good work!
Once again, another great video! I must say that every time I watch your videos, my passion for baseball grows! Nice job, Sir.
This is really well done, about as clear and succinct as you could possibly make such a dense topic.
Thanks!
As always, your explanations are top-notch.
Thanks!
Funny thing about the definition of error at 7:28.
Consider this situation: runner on second, line drive to left field. Left fielder throws the ball to third, but the third baseman misplays the ball, and the runner on second goes to third (maybe the batter goes to second, maybe not; I don't think it matters).
Does this count as an error? The play shouldn't have resulted in an out; it should have resulted in the runner being held at second, but instead you have runners on first and third or second and third. Feels like it should be an error, but by that definition, it seems like it's not.
A runner advancing due to a misplayed ball is an error!
I don’t think I’ve said this before but man your videos are such a vibe. Kind of the ramped up 80s dance song to Jon Bois’ 80s soft jazz, in terms of sports videos.
Thx dude! 😎😎 really appreciate the comparison.
Football is over so now I’m learning this
Great video, I really learned a lot with the explanations!
If a batter hits a sacrifice and a player on 2nd base can tag up to 3rd base there is no statistical differentiation between that and an out, correct? Or likewise on the rare occasion they advance from 1st base to 2nd base as well. I guess advancing the runner but not scoring him would only be factored in advanced statistics?
Yea, that's not considered a sacrifice, and that's not really factored into advanced statistics, either. That's just an out.
Great video, really concise and well put! Can't wait for the next parts. Also, I really see this channel going a long way!
Thanks!
Trying to dive deeper into the sport I love. Thanks for helping me with that
🥳 part three of this series is almost ready to go
@@SportsExplained I may or may not have been checking for it every couple days lately…
14:13 - So GIDPs do not count toward RBIs, but what about other double plays? I could imagine a scenario where a ball is hit on a line to an infielder, caught, and while a second runner is being doubled up, Elly De La Cruz tags from third and scores... We need an answer to this controversy before it happens!
This is way harder than getting into basketball 😂 usually if someone brings up stats this much in basketball you just call them a nerd. still, learning new things is fun
Really enjoyed the video ! Drop the 3rd one. I just came across here.
if i recall correctly, sac flys are included as outs in OBP. great video!
Correct, but not sac bunts.
@@SportsExplained any chance you'd do a series on NFL tactics? it's such a hard subject for me to grasp and i don't even know where to start
@@btrams yep. Hopefully for next season 👍
This was so well made
THIS VIDEO IS FIRE
0:30 everyone is so happy to hear about wOBA
soo..WhOBAut that? huh? huh?........................@#$#%%
If a player tries to advance because of a wild pitch but is thrown out, is it considered a CS?
looking forward to the rest
Thanks!
Woah, sooo many stats. Is there really a use for all of them or they are a bit usless?
16:06 unintentional puns?
Haha! Intentional. You're the first to notice!
what happens if a run gets scored because of a wild pitch, who gets the rbi? The batter or no one?
How is reaching by fielder's choice equivalent to an out, but reaching by error is not? If neither is a hit, where is that distinction made?
The error is different in that an error is seen as a mess up on the part of the defense whereas a FC is basically an indication of a poorly struck ball on the part of the batter.
Thanks Peter for explaining. That's right. An error is when the defense makes a mistake -- like overthrowing the ball, or missing an easy catch. The idea there is that if a batter gets on base because of a mistake, the pitcher shouldn't be penalized with the hit, and the batter shouldn't be awarded with a hit. So, for the pitcher and batter, errors are treated as if they didn't happen for statistical purposes. The error is charged to the defense and to the fielder who the official scorer thinks made the mistake.
A Fielder's Choice is when the defense chooses to put out a runner other than the batter. So it's a conscious decision. Usually it's when there's an easy forceout, or when they're trying to stop a run from scoring. This is an out on the field and functions the same as an out when calculating the batter and pitcher's individual statistics, even though the batter made it to base.
Also: it's not uncommon for a Fielder's Choice to end up being an error! This happens pretty frequently, actually. Maybe the second baseman chooses to toss the ball to the shortstop to get the forceout at second base, but overthrows the ball. Not uncommon at all. This goes into the book as a Fielder's Choice for the batter and pitcher and an Error on the throw or the catch.
Thank you both for the explanations. I get the errors bit. Now, what are those "individual statistics" that use the number of outs (including FC)?
@@Maazin5 there are several! They’re coming in the next video 👍
@@Maazin5 and it’s not so much they use the number of outs… it’s more that the equations are set up in a way where certain events are divided by plate appearances, at bats, etc., so outs count for/against those stats but they’re not directly part of the equation.
An error is not treated as an at bat or a plate appearance, so errors don’t even make those equations. Meanwhile, a Fielder’s Choice does count as an at bat and a plate appearance, but not a hit, so a fielder’s choice increases the denominator but not the numerator on stats like batting average, obp, slg and whip
So it’s not that outs are explicitly included… They are included implicitly, I guess you could say.
Next video gets into all of this
thank you so much!
Dude could you do one on NFL on how and why the yards thing happens I’ve been watching nfl in Australia for about2 yrs and I just find it hard to understand being bought up on rugby league and rugby union and from what I’ve seen Nfl came from rugby union? If you know what I mean
I’ve got two videos on NFL rules, if that’s what you’re looking for!
I think it’s funny that they show a bunch of Mets footage when he’s explain how you can have a good pitcher but the team still looses.
Haha
For the record those clips were all from one specific game when deGrom took a shut out late into the game, but the Mets provided no run support
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The hold still gets no love 😢
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Sacrifice flies are silly.
Nobody _attempts_ to get a sacrifice fly. If a batter hits a homer he won't say "I didn't want that, I just wanted to get a sac fly"
It’s not that he’s *attempting* to get a sac fly necessarily, it’s that he’s *attempting* to put the ball in play. And yes, guys do attempt to advance the runner home from third to score a run. Sure they won’t wish their hr was a sac fly but they might be behind in the count, or in a slump or whatever. They’re simply trying to put the ball in play and drive in a run. I guess I just don’t understand your logic here as to why it’s silly? Sacrifice is a big part of the game. Maybe you haven’t played competitively, which is totally fine, but don’t knock something unless you can offer a little better justification than whether or not he attempted to do it.