war compares you to a replacement level player, not an average player, so zero war is actually below average. waa (wins above average) would compare you to an average player
I always felt that players must have lobbied for it to be vs. replacement level... it's easier to negotiate a contract with a number that rates you as a positive number than one that can go negative. Subtract 2.1.... a guy with a 1.7 WAR looks playable. If you compare it to average they end up with a -0.4, which looks bad. Same player and stats, but man, it's got to be easier to negotiate a contract with a positive number.
@@nacoranthat's highly unlikely. When these stats were made and named no player even knew about them. The point of comparing to a replacement level player is to know if you deserve a roster spot in mlb or not. There are plenty of guys who are below average but still get decent playing time because there is value in just playing a lot and being good enough. Think of a 4th Or 5th starter for a team.
Degrom in 2018 was so amazing that a pitcher for the Rockies throwing a 2.40 era over 100 innings in Coors Field pales by comp. One of the best pitching seasons of the past 40 years.
You beat me to it. I didn't even need a calculator to figure it out. Maybe that is why the author got it wrong. He is incapable of using his brain. Damn Zgen.
Relatively new to baseball and a bit of a stat/data nerd so this was a great watch. Looking forward to learning more and using some of these stats. Thanks
OPS+ OBP, Slugging, OPS, wOBA, WRC+ are basically everything you need to measure a hitter. It’s nice to look at stolen bases & extra base hits as well for more context. It’s also nice to know how many games they played & plate appearances they had. WAR/offensive WAR/defensive WAR are great for comparing player of the same position. For pitchers just look at ERA+, ERA, WHIP, FIP, also K/9 H/9 & BB/9 are great to look at & add context. Also innings pitched is important but that’s a given
One mistake WAR isn't based off the average player it's based off the r3placement level so a war of 0 for a whole season is actually worse then average it would mean your as good as a replacement level player
Id like to mention 2 more things for pitchers: 1. Ground ball percentage is good, because SLG on ground balls is significantly less than SLG on fly balls. 2. Stuff, Location, and Pitching+ show how well the pitches move, how well they are placed, and a combination of the two things basically show how good you are with your pitches. Its better than movement profile in my opinion
I feel like K’s per 9 matters for starters more than Relief pitchers. I’d like to know if their some stat that determines like ex how many extra ground ball outs by the fielders or themself
Probably on baseball savant, I’m not exactly sure how but it would have something to do with going on the pitchers page and then messed around with the tabs under 3D illustrator I’m sure
i needed this video, thank you! I'm 34 years old, not that I'm saying I'm old but all of this advanced stats have been very prevalent within the last idk, 7-10 years? All of this extra stuff is too much for me to wrap my head around all of this lol
I don't like FIP as an isolated stat. If you induce a lot of contact that turns into ground balls the fact that your team has a lousy infield may in fact affect the outcome of the game, but that's really on the infield, not the pitcher. A better stat would consider ERA+ in a way that adjusts where the pitcher gets the ball hit vs. the differential between the average dWar for that position vs. his teams dWar. The problem with the eye test is that a player who gets a late jump and runs slowly but who lays out every time it looks close, can look good to the eye. Jeter may have had a great looking jump throw, but a lot of short stops would have gotten to those balls easily and not needed a jump throw. (Now, on the other hand, his famous hustle throw near home was good hard play).
Does savant have a page with the top say 100 players in the league in hitting stats? I went on the site and it looks like you have to just type in a players name to get his stats. That's fine but I want to know the top 100 hitters as of this second with all their stats
Yes, and fangraphs website is a pain to navigate but I like their splits more than baseball reference! It’s also just less confusing to have those things split up on different websites in my opinion
ERA+ is good to compare eras, but I think we need a K+/BB+ and WHIP+ because the different eras make the stats hard to compare. Nolan Ryan getting 300 plus Ks in an era where strikeouts were viewed as evil is far more impressive than getting 300Ks in this era.
i see a lot of people here talking about the "replacement level player" instead of the average player, but nobody here is defining what a replacement level player is, by a good way to think about it in your head, if you took the average triple a guy and called him up, that's a 0 WAR season, but to actually define it as the stats did: a full team of people who had a 40 win season is a team where everyone produced 0 war
Ceddane rafaela is a bad defender at least right now. He does make incredible diving plays, but he makes way too many errors. just today he costed us a run against the o's on a bad throw. However, he is a great defender when. he's in center, he just needs to work on infield defense. His defense in the infield will be elite in a few years, but there are growing pains and as of now, I would rather have a league average shortstop defensively-wise
The issue with WAR is accounting for defense, across eras especially since we don't have advanced metrics. But the reality is dWAR is still a mess because there remain a great divergence in calculating them. Especially in funky fields like Coors where there is a huge outfield, or Fenway, with its odd Dimensions. So, WAR isn't as perfect as it's treated. Again, for players before 2010...dWAR is a mess.
walk =/= single, singles are way more valuable. A single can bring a runner in from 2nd,3rd, even 1st sometimes. As a Padres fan, I feel way better with Arraez and a runner on in the clutch than I ever did with Soto, cause I knew Soto was searching for the walk.
am i correct or false in assuming that ops is your average bases per at bat? so if a player has a 500 ops they average 0.5 bases per at bat and a player with a 1000 ops averages 1 base per at bat? it makes sense (to me anyways) because the max ops is 4000 if you hit a homerun every at bat
also i believe you said in the video that if a pitcher gave up 4 runs in 18 innings that they would have a 4.5 era when it would be 2 runs per 9 innings. not entirely sure on that one though
I find FIP to be among the least helpful stats. It's not luck, it's the game. Many pitchers (like Greg Maddux) knew getting weak contact was smarter than going for K if you want to work longer in the game. Teams have strategies for their starters, and spend millions to build great defenses. A stat that pretends the game is simply batter vs pitcher with no one but the catcher on the field is inherently useless. When your team has a sucky bullpen and you need to go deeper into games, relying on defense (and yes some luck) is more important for winning the game...which is tbt ultimate goal. It's just a silly stat.
@@peskytalk after watching the video, I'd like to point out a few pieces of misinformation; whiff rate - whiff rate is swing and miss% on all swings, not just Zone swings (can be confirmed by doing a few baseball savant searches for all swings, just swings and misses, then dividing swings and misses by all swings and it will equal the Whiff% that shows up on a player's savant page) -Chase rate was a little off too, though I don't blame you. Better to just say "outside of zone" than "firmly out of zone", whenever it'd take a bit to explain the attack zones as well as I'm sure many people think that oZone Whiff% and Chase% are the same. Sweet Spot% - there's a reason Baseball Savant added the "LA-" part before LA-Sweet Spot% after the introduction of Bat Speed metrics. This is because LA-Sweet Spots and Bat Sweet Spots are different as shown in swing graphics occasionally shown (were more prevalent right after the release of Bat Speed metrics). LA-Sweet Spot% is the Percent of Batted Balls with a Launch Angle between 8 and 32 degrees. WAR - On the WAR explanation, you claimed that a 0 WAR is an average player, which is not true. That is typically a 2 WAR Player. THOUGH, a 0 WAA player, IS average. Same thing applies to the "8 WAR" thing I recall being mentioned, though I don't remember it well. There are likely a few other things incorrect, as well as some things we disagree on (x/9 Stats being better than X% [for pitchers], though that may just be because X/9 is easier to contextualize. Enjoyed the video, not often is this kind of content on youtube, there were just a few factually incorrect statements that bugged me as I watched it. thx if you read all this lol.
I appreciate your information on the "advanced stats" that you like or use but you left off one of the most important stats in the game; RBI's. If you don't have anyone knocking in the runs, you don't win. Sounds elementary I know but it had to be said. Which brings me to my second point, Batting Average. Batting Average is absolutely, positively way more important than On-Base Percentage. Don't get me wrong, Oo-Base is extremely important but a hit is way more important than a walk as you may have a chance for the aforementioned RBI's or to move a runner already on base from first to third. I really like the OPS+ stat but it's not taking into affect the things I mentioned. So, just consider that for the way you think about baseball. Btw, FanGraphs is awesome as I compare some of my favorite players like Joe DiMaggio with today's amazing Yankees like Juan Soto or Aaron Judge. 👍 🇺🇲
RBIs are very team dependent as well however. I would like RBIs per opportunity or something like that, but I don’t like RBIs as a stat because of situation, such as a leadoff hitter will never has as many as a 3 hole hitter!
OBP is more important than batting average because OBP has a higher correlation to runs scored than batting average does. It's not really a debate any more.
Just t let you know no one ever said we should JUST look at pitcher wins. In the 80s people would still look at ERA and strikeouts and see DeGrom as a tough luck pitcher with no run support. People judge pitchers in a more sophisticated way now (especially since we have access to so many more advanced metrics) but it's not as extreme as you make out here
For RBIS per game you can easily solve that on your own, if a player has 100 games played and 50 RBIs hed be averaging 0.50 RBIs per game! Just divide the RBIs by games played!
That's why stats can be overrated because eye test tells whos a good defender and I prefer a firlder with a good arm because they don't get tested as much as outfielders plus they have a better chance of throwing runners out.
It is ridiculous fans now dont think Wins are a pithcer stat. Doesnt matter what your ERA is. Usually the best pitchers go against the opposing teams best pitcher. So the starting point for all stats should be lower not the teams average. I.E. the opposing teams ERA not AVG Runs For. If you cant beat the best pitchers then you should have the loss. Quit giving losing pitchers mulligans for choking against the better pitchers.
You’re in a really weird spot with this video where it could easily be 3 hours long just explaining a third of what was covered in this video but you’re also introducing stats and metrics to people who are trying to learn/deepen their understanding of baseball and you need to explain it in a quick and engaging way. Overall a good video though. I think you found a good middle ground.
Average home runs and rbi the way it has ever been for years now those are truly the only stats that matter there is a reason why the triple crown is the triple crown
@@elliskennedy9885 really? You read half of what I said and completely twisted it around. Usually that’s what people do when they have no idea what there talking about. 1 no where did I say they are the most importantly stats because it’s the way it’s always been. I was simply stating a fact and number 2 yes it actually does mean it’s correct you 🤡 ever heard of the triple crown????? What other stats are more important? You really mean to sit here and tell me you judge a player based on slugging percentage and on base percentage for example when they could could be great at both of those but be a terrible player? You are ok with embarrassing yourself like that? If you lead in even just one of the three triple crown categories then you can accurately judge how valuable a guy is. How is this hard to understand? You are definitely the only one to have that terrible opinion.
@@elliskennedy9885 because you don’t need to get hits for both those stats you can have shit average and shit home run totals and overall be terrible and still have a high slugging and obp. That’s literally the entire money ball strategy get cheap terrible players that get on base. Once again this is common sense for just the average baseball fan to understand I think your just arguing for the sake of arguing I feel like you get all this already
WAR is killing baseball, tangible stats bring the competition, and the magic, for over 100 years we cared about Home Runs, Hits, Wins, ERA, Strike outs, Steals….thats what has brought the magic of baseball and it creates tangible goals for players, Ohtani was trying to hit 50/50 we were all exited. Not a single human cared if his war outside of baseball Uber star fans was 10 or 9 lol we cared about tangible stats, it also brings competition, why do we care that Judge hit 62 because is tangible stats that has been around for 100 years
@@peskytalk Those stats are for moneyball managers to use more than fans. I am here for watching my team kick ass and win the World Series. I don't care about the stats.
@@VioletDeliriums Then why are you even watching the video lmao. Some people find player statistics a very interesting and integral part of the game. Just cause you don't care about them doesn't mean they're useless.
Ops is one of the most overrated stats I prefer batting average ops is why people except guys batting only .220 which is not good especially when those .220 hitters strikeout too much. You can't drive in a run or 2 with lower batting average from 2nd and 3rd if you're getting out especially with 2 outs but you can if you get hits more regularly.
That is the one piece that still matters. Sure, a walk is a plus, but if you need to score that runner from 2B/3B, you are just passing the buck to the next guy, and on teams with weak lineup coverage, taking a walk could doom your team.
If someone breaks the WAR single season record literally no one outside Uber baseball stat fans will care and writers….but if someone breaks the single season home run record, hits over 400, or like Ohtani hits 50/50 everyone cares….argument done. Away with giving WAR so much attention is a flawed stat
no stats matter. individual stats in team sports dont matter. games won is what matters most. if strikeouts dont matte for batters they cant matter for pitchers. things can not be two things simultaneously
war compares you to a replacement level player, not an average player, so zero war is actually below average. waa (wins above average) would compare you to an average player
I was gonna point that out too
I always felt that players must have lobbied for it to be vs. replacement level... it's easier to negotiate a contract with a number that rates you as a positive number than one that can go negative. Subtract 2.1.... a guy with a 1.7 WAR looks playable. If you compare it to average they end up with a -0.4, which looks bad. Same player and stats, but man, it's got to be easier to negotiate a contract with a positive number.
@@nacoranthat's highly unlikely. When these stats were made and named no player even knew about them. The point of comparing to a replacement level player is to know if you deserve a roster spot in mlb or not. There are plenty of guys who are below average but still get decent playing time because there is value in just playing a lot and being good enough. Think of a 4th Or 5th starter for a team.
The fact DeGrom wasn't a unanimous Cy Young winner is baffling
Degrom in 2018 was so amazing that a pitcher for the Rockies throwing a 2.40 era over 100 innings in Coors Field pales by comp. One of the best pitching seasons of the past 40 years.
4 runs in 18 innings is not a 4.5 era its a 2 era
thats what im sayin lol
Yeah funny af when he starts the video being all high and mighty about winning arguments.
You beat me to it. I didn't even need a calculator to figure it out. Maybe that is why the author got it wrong. He is incapable of using his brain. Damn Zgen.
This was an very interesting video where you covered everything a Baseball Fan should now! I really enjoyed it great job
I just subscribed. Thought I already was. Lot of great baseball channels out there. You're one of them.
Thank you for this video bro. I’ve been kinda struggling to understand pitching stats like WHIP and WAR for hitters in general.
Did I cover those stats well enough for you to understand!
@@peskytalk yessir
@@peskytalkwar is above replacement not above average
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I agree a lot with what you said about the W/L stat. Unfair for pitchers since it also depends on offense
Relatively new to baseball and a bit of a stat/data nerd so this was a great watch. Looking forward to learning more and using some of these stats. Thanks
OPS+ OBP, Slugging, OPS, wOBA, WRC+ are basically everything you need to measure a hitter. It’s nice to look at stolen bases & extra base hits as well for more context. It’s also nice to know how many games they played & plate appearances they had. WAR/offensive WAR/defensive WAR are great for comparing player of the same position. For pitchers just look at ERA+, ERA, WHIP, FIP, also K/9 H/9 & BB/9 are great to look at & add context. Also innings pitched is important but that’s a given
One mistake WAR isn't based off the average player it's based off the r3placement level so a war of 0 for a whole season is actually worse then average it would mean your as good as a replacement level player
I always use those words interchangeably, they’re so similar in my brain hit you are correct!
Came here to hear your opinion on pitcher record. Couldn’t have summed it up any better
Throw it In the trash
Really helpful vid, much appreciated as someone who's trying to wrap their head around the more basic and talked about stats 👍
Id like to mention 2 more things for pitchers: 1. Ground ball percentage is good, because SLG on ground balls is significantly less than SLG on fly balls. 2. Stuff, Location, and Pitching+ show how well the pitches move, how well they are placed, and a combination of the two things basically show how good you are with your pitches. Its better than movement profile in my opinion
I think you got era wrong. Wouldnt 4 runs in 18 innings be an era of 2? Since you take 9×earned runs÷innings? Or am i wrong?
yeah i noticed that too
You’re right I just failed the math, thank you lol
@@peskytalk all good man you did a lot of research and put together a well thought out video a mistake is bound to happen!
Please make more like this I like it a lot and it helps me as a capper
I feel like K’s per 9 matters for starters more than Relief pitchers. I’d like to know if their some stat that determines like ex how many extra ground ball outs by the fielders or themself
@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl I actually feel the opposite I'd rather have a starter whose a ground ball pitcher then a reliver who is one
@@hoppy23 interesting
@@hoppy23I agree
Just got into baseball this is very helpful, thanks
I’m glad it’s Helping!
5:28 its not a 4.5 era, you divide the innings pitched by 9 and then the runs allowed by that number. so 18/9=2 and then 4/2=2 it is a 2 era
Love yur videos
Is there a way to overlap all the pitches one pitcher has in one of those maps of the strike zones?
Probably on baseball savant, I’m not exactly sure how but it would have something to do with going on the pitchers page and then messed around with the tabs under 3D illustrator I’m sure
i needed this video, thank you! I'm 34 years old, not that I'm saying I'm old but all of this advanced stats have been very prevalent within the last idk, 7-10 years? All of this extra stuff is too much for me to wrap my head around all of this lol
I don't like FIP as an isolated stat. If you induce a lot of contact that turns into ground balls the fact that your team has a lousy infield may in fact affect the outcome of the game, but that's really on the infield, not the pitcher. A better stat would consider ERA+ in a way that adjusts where the pitcher gets the ball hit vs. the differential between the average dWar for that position vs. his teams dWar.
The problem with the eye test is that a player who gets a late jump and runs slowly but who lays out every time it looks close, can look good to the eye. Jeter may have had a great looking jump throw, but a lot of short stops would have gotten to those balls easily and not needed a jump throw. (Now, on the other hand, his famous hustle throw near home was good hard play).
13:48 Why is Jarren Duran referred to in the third person plural?
It should be noted that hit by pitch is also accounted for in obp
Does savant have a page with the top say 100 players in the league in hitting stats? I went on the site and it looks like you have to just type in a players name to get his stats. That's fine but I want to know the top 100 hitters as of this second with all their stats
The stats that matter are the ones that favor the player I’m defending
Exactly
5:30 you have to check it again because 4 runs through 18 innings would be a 2 era. Thats 2 runs per nine innings pitched
Yea everybody corrected you lmao
Baseball Reference has a splits page too. Though Fangraphs has more control and information despite being generally unintuitive.
Yes, and fangraphs website is a pain to navigate but I like their splits more than baseball reference! It’s also just less confusing to have those things split up on different websites in my opinion
@@peskytalk I agree. They also have more in depth defensive numbers (OAA) by position. Which I couldn’t even find on Baseball Savant.
ERA+ is good to compare eras, but I think we need a K+/BB+ and WHIP+ because the different eras make the stats hard to compare. Nolan Ryan getting 300 plus Ks in an era where strikeouts were viewed as evil is far more impressive than getting 300Ks in this era.
They all matter. Some are more important than others, but it all matters.
War
Offense: Ops, Ops+,wrc+, hr
Pitching: era, fip, whip, whiff rate
slugging and whip wins championships.
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Does 9 hr count? Loooooooool
For me, Era, BA, HR total, OBP are the ones i look at to assess players.
Baseball nerds use stats like war and ops and all this other extra stuff but some extra stats are interesting and looking at a players fan graphs.
If u give up 4 runs in 18 innings isn’t ERA a 2 ..?
i see a lot of people here talking about the "replacement level player" instead of the average player, but nobody here is defining what a replacement level player is, by a good way to think about it in your head, if you took the average triple a guy and called him up, that's a 0 WAR season, but to actually define it as the stats did: a full team of people who had a 40 win season is a team where everyone produced 0 war
Ceddane rafaela is a bad defender at least right now. He does make incredible diving plays, but he makes way too many errors. just today he costed us a run against the o's on a bad throw. However, he is a great defender when. he's in center, he just needs to work on infield defense. His defense in the infield will be elite in a few years, but there are growing pains and as of now, I would rather have a league average shortstop defensively-wise
The issue with WAR is accounting for defense, across eras especially since we don't have advanced metrics.
But the reality is dWAR is still a mess because there remain a great divergence in calculating them. Especially in funky fields like Coors where there is a huge outfield, or Fenway, with its odd
Dimensions. So, WAR isn't as perfect as it's treated. Again, for players before 2010...dWAR is a mess.
walk =/= single, singles are way more valuable. A single can bring a runner in from 2nd,3rd, even 1st sometimes. As a Padres fan, I feel way better with Arraez and a runner on in the clutch than I ever did with Soto, cause I knew Soto was searching for the walk.
Yes but a hitter that walks is much more valuable than a hitter that cannot walk if they have the same other stats!
am i correct or false in assuming that ops is your average bases per at bat? so if a player has a 500 ops they average 0.5 bases per at bat and a player with a 1000 ops averages 1 base per at bat? it makes sense (to me anyways) because the max ops is 4000 if you hit a homerun every at bat
also i believe you said in the video that if a pitcher gave up 4 runs in 18 innings that they would have a 4.5 era when it would be 2 runs per 9 innings. not entirely sure on that one though
that is Slugging Percentage, aka the “S” in “OPS”
SLG = Total Bases/At Bat
Total Bases = (1B*1)+(2B*2)+(3B*3)+(HR*4)
@@tubbyidk1474 ah ty
I find FIP to be among the least helpful stats. It's not luck, it's the game. Many pitchers (like Greg Maddux) knew getting weak contact was smarter than going for K if you want to work longer in the game. Teams have strategies for their starters, and spend millions to build great defenses. A stat that pretends the game is simply batter vs pitcher with no one but the catcher on the field is inherently useless. When your team has a sucky bullpen and you need to go deeper into games, relying on defense (and yes some luck) is more important for winning the game...which is tbt ultimate goal. It's just a silly stat.
before i start watching, all of them, including xBACON
real talk, xBACON is kinda important, to me just a companion to the superior BABIP, BACON.
I agree! But beginners will find Batting Average on OPS much more valuable than something that will take them years to understand like xwoBACon!
@@peskytalk after watching the video, I'd like to point out a few pieces of misinformation;
whiff rate - whiff rate is swing and miss% on all swings, not just Zone swings (can be confirmed by doing a few baseball savant searches for all swings, just swings and misses, then dividing swings and misses by all swings and it will equal the Whiff% that shows up on a player's savant page)
-Chase rate was a little off too, though I don't blame you. Better to just say "outside of zone" than "firmly out of zone", whenever it'd take a bit to explain the attack zones as well as I'm sure many people think that oZone Whiff% and Chase% are the same.
Sweet Spot% - there's a reason Baseball Savant added the "LA-" part before LA-Sweet Spot% after the introduction of Bat Speed metrics. This is because LA-Sweet Spots and Bat Sweet Spots are different as shown in swing graphics occasionally shown (were more prevalent right after the release of Bat Speed metrics). LA-Sweet Spot% is the Percent of Batted Balls with a Launch Angle between 8 and 32 degrees.
WAR - On the WAR explanation, you claimed that a 0 WAR is an average player, which is not true. That is typically a 2 WAR Player. THOUGH, a 0 WAA player, IS average. Same thing applies to the "8 WAR" thing I recall being mentioned, though I don't remember it well.
There are likely a few other things incorrect, as well as some things we disagree on (x/9 Stats being better than X% [for pitchers], though that may just be because X/9 is easier to contextualize.
Enjoyed the video, not often is this kind of content on youtube, there were just a few factually incorrect statements that bugged me as I watched it. thx if you read all this lol.
The most important stat in all of baseball is Gross Wins Above Replacement, or GWAR.
I appreciate your information on the "advanced stats" that you like or use but you left off one of the most important stats in the game; RBI's. If you don't have anyone knocking in the runs, you don't win. Sounds elementary I know but it had to be said. Which brings me to my second point, Batting Average. Batting Average is absolutely, positively way more important than On-Base Percentage. Don't get me wrong, Oo-Base is extremely important but a hit is way more important than a walk as you may have a chance for the aforementioned RBI's or to move a runner already on base from first to third. I really like the OPS+ stat but it's not taking into affect the things I mentioned. So, just consider that for the way you think about baseball. Btw, FanGraphs is awesome as I compare some of my favorite players like Joe DiMaggio with today's amazing Yankees like Juan Soto or Aaron Judge. 👍 🇺🇲
RBIs are very team dependent as well however. I would like RBIs per opportunity or something like that, but I don’t like RBIs as a stat because of situation, such as a leadoff hitter will never has as many as a 3 hole hitter!
OBP is more important than batting average because OBP has a higher correlation to runs scored than batting average does. It's not really a debate any more.
Just t let you know no one ever said we should JUST look at pitcher wins. In the 80s people would still look at ERA and strikeouts and see DeGrom as a tough luck pitcher with no run support. People judge pitchers in a more sophisticated way now (especially since we have access to so many more advanced metrics) but it's not as extreme as you make out here
Is their a stat for how many K’s a batter has by poor swings vs pitchers pitches. Also is their a stat for RBI’s per game or something thanks man🙏
For RBIS per game you can easily solve that on your own, if a player has 100 games played and 50 RBIs hed be averaging 0.50 RBIs per game! Just divide the RBIs by games played!
And chase rate tells you how often guys are swinging at your pitches ouside of the zone, that’s probably the closest to what you’re asking
@@peskytalk thanks
@@peskytalk oh
Who is your favorite baseball player of all time
Xander Bogaerts was for a long time but Jarren Duran is getting close to my favorite ever
Era has always matter more than win loss which is obvious.
That's why stats can be overrated because eye test tells whos a good defender and I prefer a firlder with a good arm because they don't get tested as much as outfielders plus they have a better chance of throwing runners out.
K% and BB% are way better than K/9 and BB/9.
Wouldn’t the hypothetical ERA be 2.00?
What did I say the hypothetical was? 4 in 18 innings?
@@peskytalk 4.50. Just a note, great video regardless
It is ridiculous fans now dont think Wins are a pithcer stat. Doesnt matter what your ERA is. Usually the best pitchers go against the opposing teams best pitcher. So the starting point for all stats should be lower not the teams average. I.E. the opposing teams ERA not AVG Runs For. If you cant beat the best pitchers then you should have the loss. Quit giving losing pitchers mulligans for choking against the better pitchers.
batting average all always matter idc what stat nerds say
You’re in a really weird spot with this video where it could easily be 3 hours long just explaining a third of what was covered in this video but you’re also introducing stats and metrics to people who are trying to learn/deepen their understanding of baseball and you need to explain it in a quick and engaging way. Overall a good video though. I think you found a good middle ground.
Wait a minute. 4 earned runs in 18 innings should be an ERA of 2.00, not 4.50.
I think your calculator is broken.
Average home runs and rbi the way it has ever been for years now those are truly the only stats that matter there is a reason why the triple crown is the triple crown
There are way more important stats than just those 3. Just because its been that way for a long time doesn't mean it is correct
@@elliskennedy9885 really? You read half of what I said and completely twisted it around. Usually that’s what people do when they have no idea what there talking about. 1 no where did I say they are the most importantly stats because it’s the way it’s always been. I was simply stating a fact and number 2 yes it actually does mean it’s correct you 🤡 ever heard of the triple crown????? What other stats are more important? You really mean to sit here and tell me you judge a player based on slugging percentage and on base percentage for example when they could could be great at both of those but be a terrible player? You are ok with embarrassing yourself like that? If you lead in even just one of the three triple crown categories then you can accurately judge how valuable a guy is. How is this hard to understand? You are definitely the only one to have that terrible opinion.
@@michelangelocaruncho8571 How can a player be a bad hitter with a good OBP and SLG?
@@elliskennedy9885 because you don’t need to get hits for both those stats you can have shit average and shit home run totals and overall be terrible and still have a high slugging and obp. That’s literally the entire money ball strategy get cheap terrible players that get on base. Once again this is common sense for just the average baseball fan to understand I think your just arguing for the sake of arguing I feel like you get all this already
@@michelangelocaruncho8571 you need to get hits for both obp and slg lmao what are you talking about
WAR is killing baseball, tangible stats bring the competition, and the magic, for over 100 years we cared about Home Runs, Hits, Wins, ERA, Strike outs, Steals….thats what has brought the magic of baseball and it creates tangible goals for players, Ohtani was trying to hit 50/50 we were all exited. Not a single human cared if his war outside of baseball Uber star fans was 10 or 9 lol we cared about tangible stats, it also brings competition, why do we care that Judge hit 62 because is tangible stats that has been around for 100 years
You know what stat matters? Team W & L and standings. It is a team game. The rest, for the purposes of fans, is a participation trophy.
Well that’s not true, it’s also how valuable those players are, the largest contract of all time is wrong a player that NEVER was on a winning team
@@peskytalk Those stats are for moneyball managers to use more than fans. I am here for watching my team kick ass and win the World Series. I don't care about the stats.
@@VioletDeliriums Then why are you even watching the video lmao. Some people find player statistics a very interesting and integral part of the game. Just cause you don't care about them doesn't mean they're useless.
@@benluecken2839 I will wait until after the World Series to answer that question.
This video is exhibit A of why most folks who think sabermetrics are good don’t know an actual thing about baseball.
More pesky talk videos make me happier
Also what’s your favorite Al and nl team
Red Sox is my favorite team and rn Phillies are probably my favorite NL team
I love the Yankees, and the Phillies are also my fave nl team
It's pronounced Ex-it not Eggs-it.
Ops is one of the most overrated stats I prefer batting average ops is why people except guys batting only .220 which is not good especially when those .220 hitters strikeout too much. You can't drive in a run or 2 with lower batting average from 2nd and 3rd if you're getting out especially with 2 outs but you can if you get hits more regularly.
That is the one piece that still matters. Sure, a walk is a plus, but if you need to score that runner from 2B/3B, you are just passing the buck to the next guy, and on teams with weak lineup coverage, taking a walk could doom your team.
If someone breaks the WAR single season record literally no one outside Uber baseball stat fans will care and writers….but if someone breaks the single season home run record, hits over 400, or like Ohtani hits 50/50 everyone cares….argument done. Away with giving WAR so much attention is a flawed stat
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no stats matter. individual stats in team sports dont matter. games won is what matters most. if strikeouts dont matte for batters they cant matter for pitchers. things can not be two things simultaneously
and understanding and adjusting based off of individual stats can help you win games. how would teams be constructed without stats? vibes?
I know you think this is smart but it’s actually very dumb lol
"if strikeouts dont matte for batters they cant matter for pitchers." I know you think this is "common sense" but it's also just wrong.
Can I get pinned plz
No npc