My wife watches War for the Planet of the Apes for the FIRST time
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2022
- I'm showing Jen the final part in the Planet of the Apes trilogy. War for the Planet of the Apes for the first time.
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Its so hard and rare to have a trilogy where each movie is better than the previous. This will go down as a classic in the future
Now we just need to hope Disney doesn't ruin everything with the 4th.
@@zinc466 wut
@@zinc466 there’s a 4th?!
@@cedrictilghman No. Not yet at least. Disney bought Fox few years back and now holds the rights to the franchise. So they could theoretically create a fourth.
@@cedrictilghman they said I. 2019 they were going to be making a fourth film.
Caesar went from someone’s pet to a literal warlord and savior among his people. I mean that’s character development on a whole other level!
Put the final of war side by side with beginning of rise very different
I think that’s one of the problems with people’s understanding of character development tho- it’s not his position that makes him interesting or that he is the leader of something.
What makes him interesting is his growth in realizing the differences between him and his father, understanding he has to fend for himself, growing to comprehend the differences between justice and vengeance, becoming both more merciful in some regards, but also hardened to the suffering others face. Victory and loss are not interesting in a vacuum, their effect on his character is what makes him profoundly important.
The 1 to 2 punch about this is that both War and Logan came out the same year, and came out a few months within each other. Fox was like, let's hit you with some goddamn sadness this year.
I love both and yeah sad for sure didnt remember that they came out the same year lol
The same year?! Wow, they just wanted us to feel pain huh🥲
Damn I thought this movie came out in like 2020 not 2017. Can't believe it's been 7 years since we got a new PotA movie.
It's so cool to see Jen, who wasn't really a movie watcher, now so invested that she laughs and cries as if everything she sees is real. Truly one of us now
same with matt :D
@@xmatobujnakx whatever happened with matt? I know they took a break then started filming together again but only did a few videos. I haven't seen anything from the pair together since.
@@terrydevlin3486they just don’t film with him as much but they just posted a vid with him a few days ago it was guardians of the galaxy 3
Also holy suntan
Andy Serkis, to no one's surprise, was fantastic in this role.
Matt Reeves has a gift of crafting these incredible character-pieces. No matter how big the budget is, his focus is always the characters and the complexity within them and between them.
Plus that scene of lighting a tunnel with muzzle flashes, that he used in this movie, he got to recreate in The Batman.
Indeed, it's why I love Villeneuve as well
I kind of feel like these movies could be regarded as classics in the future. So many stars aligned to create such an insane trilogy of movies which exceeded in technology and story telling.
Fr. These are very good movies
It's insane to think they tried before with Tim Burton and it failed to launch, then brought it back and Matt Reeves took it from a solid movie to a true passion project. Good stuff.
@@Spaxer was the tim burton movie the one with mark whalberg?
@@lucas.2.3.9.4 yes
In the future when my grandkids ask to see a classic this trilogy is what I’ll show them
I swear it’s now a tradition where Jen has to say her iconic line “HOLDEN THOMAS HARDMAN!”
We need this on a T-shirt as Merch.
There’s a compilation made of her saying this
@@noggodtv True, and the compilation is Jen and Holden approved. ;)
@@noggodtv made by Yours truly!
The Jenguin got mad af every time she said it
now we need the perfect British accent version...
Holden: “I wonder how deliberate this religious symbolism is…”
Me, remembering the ending where Caesar leads his people to a Promised Land he can’t live in himself: “Oh just wait, Holden ☺️”
Yeah I was like wait this is reminding me of moses
Especially since in the original PoTA, he was a a messianic figure in the ape society. Turning him into a Moses figure over a Christ figure allows Caesar the freedom to make more mistakes and grow more over the story.
@@meanpickelmorris2050 avalanche was the red sea? :o
Rocket is a very an underrated character in this trilogy to me, he went from bullying Caesar in the first movie, to being one of his right hands, and even risking his life in this movie in the moment at 25:02
He was also the first one to notice when a grieving Maurice called everyone after Caesar's death
Ikr I love rocket
Very underrated indeed I wonder if they remembered
@@trevorphilips9065 tbh I never really realized who he was in my first watch either so I understand why people don't remember him, but the sad part is that some people who make analysis of the trilogy forget to point him out (the ones I saw at least)
Oh also one thing I noticed on rewatch was that Winter was pissed that they didn't want to go to the new land immediately was him trying to save them but he was just too fearful. He was afraid of being killed so he ratted them out and was afraid of getting banished so he couldn't tell them the truth either.
At his last moments fear also consumed him when he almost rats them out again even though he felt remorse earlier, and I don't know if it's intentional but I feel like his story arc continued with Donkey really well.
I feel so bad for Maurice. Caesar wasn’t just his leader, he was his best and oldest friend who he started on this journey with from the beginning.
Together for 12 years met in the animal shelter escaped together lived together
Nova is definitely an amazing child actress. She took on all the red flags of a role and nailed it. Absolutely no talking and no interaction with other people. She had to communicate using only facial expressions to CGI apes. Incredibly difficult.
Not entirely accurate. In most cases they used actual actors in motion capture suits, and they basically used CGI to build the apes and add them to the scenes in post-production, but there's actual footage of actors in lycra suits "acting" as the apes along with the human characters, but yeah, she's a good actor.
@@blueroninstudios Yup, I also liked to imagine that at some point the actors saw themselves as the apes they were embodying when they got really into it. Kinda like when kids play make believe
I think the difference between Cesar and Koba, was that in the end Cesar realized that his vengenace was personal, and it was not against all humans nor was he willing to sacrifice any apes for it.
The whole holden and bosten battle near the beginning is hilarious 😂😂😂
Yes it is so funny to me and I really hope people do understand that it is a joke. I am new to their channel and that was the first thing that I found so funny about Holden I love so much when he makes some joke about Boston 🤣🤣🤣
You know if Holden Hardman says "who's too say" It's bad news 😂😂
Jen went thru all the stages of grief at the end when Caesar died lolol
I think this is my favourite Planet of the Apes movie of all of them, and the fact I knew Ceasar was gonna meet his end here from the start didn't diminish the impact of that last scene. Magnificent. Glad you enjoyed them all xd
That “Leave Him!!” Is one of my favorite lines in any movie, you can feel the emotions, just raw.
The fact that the donkey killed the guy we all thought was gonna have a change or heart made it even more beautiful.
This trilogy is so underrated, it's one of the most well done trilogies of the 21st century.
And that end frame of Maurice holding onto Caesar as he's laying down, dying, it's like a Renaissance painting. Absolutely beautiful.
I know there is still a lot of arguments around whether or not motion capture performances should be recognised at the academy awards, but how they hadn't recognised Andy Serkis' performances as Gollum and Caesar as Oscar worthy still shocks me to this day!
This is probably my favorite trilogy that came out in the 2010's. I love the connections to both the original 1968 film, and particularly with this one the connections to the Ten Commandments (which was Charlton Heston's other major film role). Just as God told Moses that because he broke faith that he would not be allowed to enter the promised land, Caesar died as a result of succumbing to his need for revenge over the safety of his own people. The biblical themes are integrated into this story about apes so naturally. I highly recommend watching the original film at some point, it's basically a feature length twilight zone episode.
9:20 Lady, do you understand you’re also talking about yourself as well? You’re a human too. If humans are a plague on earth, then I guess that means Nova’s a plague because she’s a human as well.
To me these three movies are, to this day, some of the best movies ever made.
Emotional and action-packed. Also some of the best CGI I have ever seen.
The build up to the final “who’s to say” was so rewarding. Well played Holden, well played.
I lost it between 8:00- 8:18 😂. That was too funny. Jen’s immediate change in tone.
One of the best trilogies ever made IMO, just to point out something about the girl Nova, she is a carrier of the virus, she doesn't exhibit most of the symptoms except for the voice thing, but obviously she can spread it to others, for me it meant that any humans that would be born from her bloodline in the future would be resistant to the virus too
She also had the same name as the female in the original Planet of the Apes. Probably a big call back to that.
"Humans are a plague on this earth."
"Okay let's all relax."
Lmaoooo
I love how they took in Nova after she was alone and couldn't speak anymore, but even after the apes taught her sign language, they still treated her as a human and not as an ape
“Humans are a plague on this earth.”
JENNIFER THOMAS HARDMAN!!! 🤣
These movie are SO MUCH better then they have any business being, and LOVE their connections to the original series. Also love Caesar’s ride or die crew. Caesar EARNED their loyalty & friendship, and they reminded him of who he is, not who stupid Woody Harrelson wanted to make him. If Caesar was the way Koba or the Colonel wanted him too, he would have never befriended Rocket or Maurice. It’s Caesar’s fairness, great leadership, and always wanting to try for peace that draws the loyalty to him.
Also, just got that Donkey is short for Donkey Kong (in addition to them using Donkey like a work animal, which I DID get from first viewing)
Jens middle name isn't Thomas. But OK I guess🤣
About the Donkey Kong thing, IIRC they call apes "Kongs" in general and Caesar "King" specifically. So you know, he's the "King" Kong.
Cesar is a great ape,but unrealistic because of his want for peace, if this was reality his species would be killed off faster than he could try to fight back, anyone who is human would end him especially if they have a family that is sick or dead because of them, if Cesar had been like koba, in reality he'd be supported, this is just a movie series where it shows two families who care about Cesar, everyone else doesn't.
@@kyledeguzman5196 Idk if that were the situation and we talking about this koba killed his own for very little Caesar had to kill koba and only killed winter cause his betrayal caused his families death donkey died on his own volition Under koba style leadership they would be wiped out way faster otherwise there are those who would look for a peaceful choice on the human side aswell
mouse history is based off of wars with people who are ruthless as koba, this isn't some soft ass naruto bullshit,this is how reality would be if every nation was full of racists,idiots,and other people that that are neutral on the situations
This series is a modern classic. I read the other day that they're going to start production for the sequel later this year, they said it'll pay off the tease of the Icarus spacecraft that was briefly seen on the news in Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
It was interestiong to see Caesar basically take Koba's actions as his own personal failure in life. The starting of the war, the realization that animalistic behavior is not subject to species (or race), and that Koba was scorned by time and torment. Caesar really used him to personaify his own animalistic nature slowly growing as the war continued and as he watched his family and people die. He hoped that when Koba died in Dawn, his ideals would too, but that scorn continued as Caesar's personal demons.
Mourice almost seemed like the opposite end of this personification, as the angel on the shoulder, helping Caesar to remain loving and focus on what is beautiful. Notice that Mourice, and his ideals, lived on even after Caesar died. Those morals were not forgotten or abandoned, but continued to live on in his people, and with the Original movies, into Cornelius.
Caesar didn't need to die but he deserved to be at peace after everything he'd been through. His apes were safe (enough) for him to rest.
Yeah, it seemed kind of pointless to kill him in the end.
Jen: "crying" why did you make me watch this 😭
Holden: It wasn't me!
The patreons did it!
Patreons: WOW Holden!
Its dark under this bus 🚌
when jen said "get me a tissue"" at the end i randomly yelled at my screen "just use boston" lol
Fun fact: Maurice is played by an actress named Karin Konoval. She's played Maurice in all three films. She's really good.
31:14 that scene always freaked me out. The way the soldiers behaved like a flock of birds looking out for predators.
I love that Jen got so upset about Caesar. it's a brilliant movie, and one of the best movie trilogies ever made!
4:03 “Just pretend that you like me”
😂😂 me with my dog at any given moment
Maurice and Rocket and true friends. Loved seeing their scenes.
For the young folks, Nova is the woman who Charlton Heston fell in love with in the original movie, written by Rod Serling, the creator of Night Gallery and Twilight Zone. Cornelius was the most reasonable ape.
There was a virus in the original trilogy, but it killed off all dogs and cats, so people started using apes as pets and eventually slaves, until Caesar was the first to say no. The timelines of the trilogy don't line up because the original was 2000 years into the future, where most apes didn't know where they came from. They had re-written the bible to be ape-centric, and were cruel to humans.
I'm not sure if you are avoiding spoilers, but there are more layers to the original 5 PotA movies than you are stating here.
*[Spoiler Talk Below for the Original 5 PotA movies]:*
The original 5 can be segmented into two alternate timelines. The second timeline is aware of the major events of the first timeline.
The first 2 movies deal with the first timeline. This is the timeline where Aldo the Gorilla was the first ape slave to say "No" to humans. Aldo was the Leader for the Ape revolution.
The war to follow ended in the future with the Ape-Centric Bible & Apes being cruel to humans. The humans had the capacity to speak yet for "mysterious reasons" never did, nor did they possess human level intelligence. Humans are nothing but pesky animals to the Apes in this timeline.
However, A small segment of humanity evolved differently from the past nuclear wars between humans & apes. They were intelligent mutants with psychic mind control abilities. They were also Zealots that worshiped a doomsday bomb created by humans from the past. The first timeline ends when the bomb is detonated, destroying the entire Earth.
The 3rd through 5th movies deal with the second timeline. Cornelius and Zira escaped Earth before it exploded in the human spaceship from the past. They went through the worm hole back in time to our 1970's and had a son named Caeser.
This is the timeline where Caeser the Chimpanzee was the first ape slave to say "No" to humans. Caeser became the Leader for the Ape Revolution (not Aldo). After Ape victory, humans were first treated as second class citizens under Caeser's rule and were ordered to educate the Apes.
In this timeline: Aldo the Gorilla formed his own gorilla militia and was rebellious to Caeser's rule. Aldo and his militia found the small segment of mutating humans that were destined to become the ancestors of those mutant Zealots from the first timeline. Aldo's militia killed them all but kept this a secret to Caeser.
Aldo attempted a coup (Coup d'état) to overthrow Caeser and lost. After this, Caeser granted full citizenship rights to the humans.
The epilogue of the 5th movie shows an Orangutan from the far future teaching the entire history of both timelines to ape and human children. Apes & Humans are treated as equals in this society. The History Teacher Orang explains to the children that they are prepared and waiting for the mutant humans to make an appearance. They are unaware that Aldo wiped out these mutant humans' ancestors long ago.
@@dunringill1747 Remember how in the second set of movies, people were saying that Zira was uncomfortably sexy for a non-human?
"Fell in love with" is s bit strong. I always thought he found the hottest woman on the planet and claimed her. He wasn't really a people person.
Yeah, I hope they chose not to read any of this. It would have been cool to see their reactions to the parallels of the movies
@@dunringill1747 I like to think of the reboot trilogy was "what if the 4th and 5th movies" got better budgets and more love. Because in the reboot trilogy, you still have the apes escaping from human captives, the struggle for coexist between humans and apes, the rise of a more rebellious ape, and the eventual war between the humans and apes
HOLDEN THOMAS HARDMAN! XD We need a video of every time she’s said this
It exists, but I don't remember the account that created it.
THE JEN TEARS OMG
"Booston ist a pain in the arrse"
Flawless South African accent there Jen 👍
Must’ve been the honey moon, Holden really acting up in this one. I mean 2 Holden Thomas hardmans in 1 episode legendary lol
1:26 I did the Holden Hardman eye pop at this point lol. I could tell you wanted to do it so badly😂
Holden & Boston are goals, ignore the haters in the comments bro bro✊🏾😂
A reaction on the first Planet of the Apes would be cool. Especially with the “plot twist” at the end.
Holdens interaction with his dogs are hilarious! All fun and games.... I hope....
I like how iconic the line “apes together strong” is. It really is simple but very wise. It even seeped into gaming culture somewhat. In apex when you play with friends you can call to “ape” someone which means to rush someone together.
Ape in gaming just means to rush without thinking and use force over tactics. It's not really from this series.
@@Eidlones It's not from those movies, but when someone call "ape" it means to rush together, so it's kinda fitting.
Since you've watched the entire trilogy, I recommend checking out the original part. Especially the first one (the next ones aren't that good anymore). Everything in the trilogy led to the events of the 1968 movie Planet of the Apes. In each part of the trilogy, there were references and plots that continued or ended in the original film - which is why I believe that after watching this excellent trilogy, it is imperative that you become familiar with the film that started it all.
I can feel and understand Jens pain towards Caesar. I was so sad the first time I saw this movie.
Has to be the best “who’s to say” at the end🤣
Apes are actually quite savage and will kill with 0 hesitation, especially chimpanzee. Gorillas are less aggressive as long they're not provoked (doesn't take much to provoke a gorilla, showing your teeth, staring, ect) and orangutans are pretty chill overall.
Bonobos(Koba's species, ironic right?) are also pretty chill. It's pretty hard to provoke them
Former certified sign language interpreter here. The sign language that's used here is not only "perfect" - it's perfectly crafted for the rudimentary use that the hands of an ape would use in two ways. One for "someone that knows sign language better (Caesar) and then ultra-foundational for the rest of the Apes. It's genius film making knowing that the actors mocapping have to perform it, and then the animators have to map-over that to generate it. It is SUBLIME.
The way that Holden tries to keep Jen from knowing if a character dies or not is hilarious 😂 Jen: does he die? Holden:…………Who’s to say, honey. Best couple ever!
Jen, you got emotional over Caesar's death, completely understandable, so did the rest of us who had been following this trilogy. It's been a great privilege for the fans of this channel to see your growth and depth of knowledge continually increase, and I don't think that I'm alone in admiring your connection to these films and many others having a real effect on you, to the extent that you are affected emotionally, which happens so often for us nerds, welcome to our wonderful (although occasionally sad) world, more to come that will connect all of us to both you and Holden, what a rewarding journey it has been since you were first introduced to this channel, we all stand with both of you in being profoundly affected by the magic of the movies
You two are absolutely brilliant 🤣 Can’t get enough of your relationship it’s truly the best 🤣
From what I’ve heard from the creators behind-the-scenes, the biggest influences on the movie were Biblical epics (10 Commandments, etc.), and Apocalypse Now.
It's hard for me to say which of these is my favorite per se because this is a, dare I say, perfect sequel.
I always look forward to another Jen's "Holden Thomas Hardman!" moment, but I'd never thought to ask to...
DO IT IN THAT PERFECT BRITISH ACCENT!!!
😂😂😂
The girl is mute because of the disease that wiped out most of the humans. It's a callback to the original 60's movies where all the humans were mute.
Boston's thoughts: " Laugh it up beard boy & sleep with one eye open! Soon sonny Jim, soon.... " 😋
I’m a long time fan of you guys, and I have to say this is my favorite reaction yet. I have a deep love for this trilogy and I loved seeing Jenn get just as emotional from it as I did. And I love hearing all her thoughts on it afterward! Really shows how much there is to unpack from this movie. Not your everyday blockbuster
When I first saw this movie I made it through fine without crying at the end but Jens reaction to Ceasars death made me tear up a bit. Fantastic reaction from you guys. Congratulations on your wedding and you truly make me look forward to Wednesday and Saturday.
"You wanna chocolate?" got me😂
how do people not get that the things about the dog are jokes i do the same to my dogs i tease them all the time . and they love me. even though i call them fatty and stuff.
right. I call my Loki-Boy, fuckface unstoppable...doesn't bother him a bit LOL
Its not like the dogs understand as long as you say it in a nice voice they seem okay,
Donkey’s Redemption Arc was one of the best I’ve ever seen
"We want some water too!" 🤣🤣🤣
3:15 Hi I'm British, all I heard was an angry Italian lady
The point of focusing on the soldier is that you end up thinking he will be the one to save Caeser, then when it turns out to be the Gorilla traitor, it makes it all the more impactful and shows how the apes truly do have that loyalty deep down for each other that the humans lack. It makes it all the more satisfying that they are the ones who end up becoming the dominant species.
Yesss my favorite pass time while working. Holden Thomas Goddamn Hardman!
Well Holden s not getting any tonight! 😜😂🇬🇧
Went from catching up on Moonknight with you guys to one of my favourite series ever. Thank you so much huge support from the UK
9:20 Lady, do you understand you’re also talking about yourself as well? You’re a human too. If humans are a plague on earth, then I guess that means Nova’s a plague because she’s a human as well.
@@arcticangel1628 chill she's reacting to a traumatic scene not actually saying we are all a plague 🤣 and if she is that's an opinion deal with it.
@@joesanctuary101 She said “humans are a plague on earth.” How could you think that she doesn’t mean all of them? If anything she needs to chill.
@@arcticangel1628 Jen is reacting to a film you donut stop taking it to heart. Enjoy the great video leave a like.
@@joesanctuary101 Is Nova bad too? Since the human characters are portrayed as bad in this movie.
Jen "There's so much killing in this movie"
The first word in the title is "War" 😋
What a great movie. I remember crying for like 5 minutes
I love this one! They even blended the music from the originals in the score. So much of this film sets up the originals, the apes that are "crucified" on the X are similar to the symbols that mark the Ape territory in the first film, its glorious.
Fun fact: The ending Caesar was supposed to die off screen, but the ending was emotional for Matt Reeves, Andy Serkis and Karin Konoval as they lost family members during production. Maurice wasn't supposed to speak in this scene but Matt Reeves and Karin thought it would be much more powerful and impactful if Maurice spoke instead of using sign language. Caeser stroking Maurice's hand was literally Andy comforting Karin while shooting the scene. During the death of Caeser, Matt Reeves told Andy Serkis to "Just Let Go" so Caeser slowly lays to his rest which wasn't in the screenplay, and in return Karin comforts Andy. This is why the ending was so powerful and emotional .
I love Rocket's redemption here, from bully to lieutenant to best friend for Caesar
Caesar went from an animal to becoming more human than most humans. He even told other humans how inhumane they were like the Colonel. I mean imagine an animal telling you that you’re more animal than they are.
33:24 - 33:27 "Get me a goddamn tissue!" That was hilarious Jen 🤣
Holden's face is like 😐 directly at the camera is pure gold 🤣
Jen: they better not kill off Ceasar
Me: she's not ready
I’m pretty sure the little girl is meant to be like a special case. Like maybe she was born with the variant so it doesn’t affect her so much.
It never interested me to watch these movies before but I've enjoyed watching them with you guys. They really are soo well made.
I love how you guys keep it moving even with all the distractions of family life. Holden hold it down with the kids while Jen keeps the show going.
Cried more for Cesar then iron man
I love that in every one of these thumbnails Holden tries to look like a badass but I just end up laughing at it
“Who’s to say” that line never helps you bro 😂😂😂
Cuz she cried. I had to give a like I felt bad but I’m glad y’all got through it. Other people quit after the first which was depressing because it’s such a good series
Oh, Jen. We understand the pain XD
I don't remember if I cried in theatres watching this movie, but man, it was a heavy experience. That ending probably made me cry for sure
tbh I really like the static cam at the end. I think I'd prefer it compared to the handheld discussions! Great watch guys. I love how much Jen has grown to love movies and their complexities.
Holden: that's what she said Jen: Holden Thomas hardman!
And look at Jen's face here 22:40 😂😂
Take a drink whenever Holden says "crazy, old Maurice" and survive, I dare ya! :D
This was a fun ride. Thanks for sharing as always.
They wanted to give the Apes their Exodus moment for this film
A perfect ending for a perfect trilogy.
9:20 Lady, do you understand you’re also talking about yourself as well? You’re a human too. If humans are a plague on earth, then I guess that means Nova’s a plague because she’s a human as well.
i love how your wife cannot be prepared for the dramma and you just trying to stay on the point what movie is gorgeous in that way
the first of the originals is certainly worth a watch - so much of it still holds up, and I was super pleased when this movie explained why humans lost their ability to speak long ago, making the original that much more impactful that the main character shocks the apes in that regard
Hahahahaha this was THE episode of the Damage Control from Holden =') I laughed so hard... =')
Also, félicitation de la part d'un de vos fans français ! Je suis heureux pour vous deux et votre mariage ! Beaucoup de bonheur ! Love you both !
Gotta be honest, the fixed camera angle at the end was far more appealing than the personally holding the phone in eachothers face camera angle
Maurice the modernly educated humanist. Never in danger, always listened to and always around even to the point where you sometimes forget he's even in a scene. "Good night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest". Oh no that's Hamlets Horatio ... hmmm