The Atmosphere is STILL BAD in the GTA Trilogy Mobile Port
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- The mobile port of the GTA Trilogy Definitive Editions are getting praise for the improved atmosphere, but is it actually fully restored? Let's take a look.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
00:36 - Original San Andreas Weather & Definitive Edition Weather
01:24 - Mobile Definitive Edition Weather
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So they just restore the color and lighting of Los Santos and applies it to all locations. Damn how lazy can they get?
i wonder how weather in san fierro looks because in the og both the default and sky gfx versions had that darker bluish tone like matrix movie in san fierro, imagine if san fierro was sunny in mobile or maybe it is lol, anyways trash port game becomes garbage when you take songs from the radio out. if i cant hear you dropped the bomb on me on bounce fm its over.
And on top of that they are charging the game $20 💀
They fixed the bugs and glitches tho
@@dexter27ll6 i heard they reinvented npc ai, but was it the rockstar themselves now that made this mobile definitive port or its still grove street games ?
@@sarunas8638no this version is not from Grove Street Games
They clearly never expected anyone would stay long enough to get out of Los Santos in these ports
😂
to be fair I still have never made it past San Fierro and I've been playing this game off and on since 2005 or 6 lol
@@TylerBonenfantdamn git gud bro
@@TylerBonenfantdo you even follow the main game man? Holy shit lol
OMG finally someone mentioned this, it's like it's a completely lower quality version of the game when san fierro starts
Missing the purple sky of las Venturas end desert especially
The fact that CJ can stand there long enough and literally die of hunger has always been hilarious.
I was wondering why almost nobody was showing footage of the classic lighting in the San Fierro and Las Venturas regions.
Guess this just confirms my suspicion, which is quite a shame since the lighting looks good imo. Hope they still manage to bring back the other lighting per region
I have no words. Whenever rockstar did bare minimum, the blue tick people on X praised them. Deep down rockstar has treated trilogy bad ever since late 2000s
Rockstar is ashamed of the games they used to make. Any effort to revitalize their past games is always half assed.
Get ready because this is a sign of how TERRIBLE GTA VI is gonna be
Stop saying X you sound lame
@@Dachin55555 womp.
The Mobile Definitive Edition desert looked like as if it was underwater thanks to the Los Santos weather colors.
As expected, to be honest - thank you for covering this.
Згоден, Слава Україні.
If you compare other games with the original PS2 filter, I'll be glad, I love your videos!
Wait, PC/Console/Switch users who paid full price for the Trillgy don't have the update, but Netflix users have the updated game almost for free. Is there a point for this or the GTA Trilogy DE just rots?
They will just rerelease the mobile version as the definitive definitive version. Asking people to buy the same game again for consoles. Don't expect these updates to be free.
Definitive Trilogy is the perfect example of "one step forward, two steps back"
The developers probably just don't realize how complex these games are.
While I do actually think that's true to an extent, the weather in San Andreas is extremely well documented by both modders and Rockstar themselves in timecyc.dat, it'd be pretty difficult to miss it.
@@TJGM My own guess at why this happened is that the netflix ports are a low priority with gta 6 around the corner. They most likely assigned just a couple of devs to it with the goal of porting it over before the deadline. This possibly could have been someone trying to add some polish to the port before the deadline, But not having enough time and having to focus on other things before they release it.
My guess is those weather conditions and biome-specific settings got lost/were removed when the game was moved over to Unreal Engine. Perhaps they were too lazy or didn't have enough time/budget to recreate those conditions, including proper fog, haze, heat haze and all that stuff. Not a game developer or so, but that'd be my guess. In general it's a severe shame they used the stripped-down mobile ports instead of the original PS2 versions (or at least the PC versions). In case of SA they even used that broken 360/PS3 mobile remaster which is hilarious and sad at the same time.
GTA definitive edition is slap in the face of reality for people who overhyping GTA 6. We need to remember again Rock$tar is not what it used to be, they are far more greedy right now as you can see GTA 5 from decent games turned into cash grab trash, they don't even stop milking GTA 5 for 10 years which is insane. Not to mention they keep selling broken remastered trash which is far inferior to original version. Honestly i don't have any faith with GTA 6, i feel like Rock$tar somehow going to screwed it up.
Based.
We should remember they also milked San Andreas to the oblivion, plus the shitty ports that were the PS3/PS4 ports of LCS and VCS.
This comment sounds like r/GTA
I don't think Rockstar got greedy, they were always greedy, they constantly underpaid voice actors for example, they did not release updates for older games/did not preserve them, they published the horrible mobile remastered version of GTA SA under their name a long time ago. They were always like that, but they made up for it by producing extremely high quality games. 10 years of milking GTA 5, depends on how you look at it. RDR2 was in very long development cycle where all studios united and what we got in the end was insanely detailed game. That game took a lot of time and money - around 300 million dollars, they probably started full production of GTA 6 right after, which is even more expensive and supposed to be even more detailed and vast than RDR2 was. This all makes sense as to why they "milked" GTA Online, yeah, they liked the money, but do you think they were sitting on their asses doing nothing in 10 years? If you want these games to be amazing, immersive, innovative, lively and detailed, you have to wait. As time goes, the development time, cost and difficulty goes up with it. Otherwise you can play new Assassins Creed or Far Cry every year or so..
@@Aquador-lx6llThank you for being one of the only realistic people in the Rockstar community. As much as I respect and LOVE their games and the Houser brothers for their immense talent, I can't say I ever respected Rockstar as a company and the Houser brothers as individuals can go to hell.
Greed, terrible communication and shitty business practices aside. The higher ups and work environment at Rockstar was ALWAYS bad. Their work culture, crunch culture and many of the higher ups (including Sam and Dan Houser) being terrible people to work with was always an issue with the company since GTA 3. Sam is notorious for having an awful temper, many of the original devs of GTA 1 & 2 got fired and blacklisted from the industry once the Houser brothers took over, either because of the Houser brothers' ego or because minor disagreements. And don't even get me started on the development of RDR1, Max Payne 3 and RDR2 and the suffering the developers went through thanks to their work culture. Lots of employees suffered from depression and had to seek therapy because the crunch, low salary and work environment was simply too unbearable. Worst of all, Rockstars NDA's are so strict to the point where employees weren't even allowed to complain and protest against their terrible work culture, it got so bad that the wives of these employees had to complain about it themselves after their husbands came home completely broken.
There's a reason why Rockstar is such a secretive company and why the higher ups at Rockstar usually avoid interviews. And I don't have a doubt in my mind that it's because they want to hide just how shady they are.
All of this information comes from ex Rockstar employees sharing their experiences working there who wish to remain anomymous so I can't unfortunately share links regarding them. There are however articles mentioning their scummy crunch culture and poor treatment of devs dating back all the way to 2009 which are pretty easy to find.
Ps2 color scheme is still best.
One of Miyamoto's famous phrases fits perfectly here. "A delayed game is eventually good. A bad game is bad forever" the point is that they NEVER achieved a good result without redoing everything from scratch. They will always try to patch up the problems with this game with bandages, but on the other hand, other problems arise. That's the cycle. if they wanted to do something worthy with these 3 classic games they would have already done something.
Use that quote to Duke Nukem Forever or cyberpunk 2077, and a lot of good games are actually rushed like half life, nfs most wanted, gta vice city, and many moee
@@theonlyplain These games you mention(excluding Half Life) has the same engine and assets from previous titles, which makes easier the job of the devs to copy but enchance the models,textures, but with other improvements
Rockstar Games is a greedy ass company but that shouldn’t surprise me in 2023
Yeah, that's a different time. Nowadays you can get free updates to your game every other week. No man sky, cyberpunk, and basically (nearly) every game that started as an early access game on steam gets better with time.
Miyamoto never said that. Still, you brought up good points but come on.
It seems like the Grand Theft Auto fanbase has developed Stockholm Syndrome from Rockstar's abysmal treatment of their most die-hard fans over the past few years. From the removal of most of the largest mods for the classic 3D games (to avoid competition with a AAA studio), to the removal of the conversions for GTA 3 and VC which only seek to add basic QoL improvements to games that Rockstar have completely abandoned, as well as the removal of the SA conversions for LCS and VCS which only exist because Rockstar refuses to make pc ports for those beloved, classic games, to then the release of the Defective Editions which they entrusted to the same company that ruined the previous attempted 'remasters' of this trilogy and then never bothered to fix themselves.
As soon as they 'improve' one thing about these shit ports (which, bearing in mind is only changed in the MOBILE versions of these games and simply ads a downgraded version of the exact feature that was already in the original games on the PS2!) people praise Rockstar? Absolutely mind-boggling reaction I've seen from the fans, this is not an 'improvement'. This is a feature that you already have when playing the original games. Thanks for the comparison, dude. You're the best for classic GTA videos👍
“Yes, i heard Stockholm Syndrome is very nice this time of year.”
-Michael De Santa
The air heat wave effect is not present....a big miss for mobile port
Thank you for covering this. This was literally exactly my gripe with the original DE. In the original SA, all 3 cities had different weather climates and different tints making each place feel distinctively different. In DE they just copied LS. In the mobile version after seeing all the praise for the classic lighting, I too tested to see if they fixed the climate problem. And found that they didn't. I was only going to make a video if no one else covered this. Glad to see this. Great video.
It’s been getting praise for doing the bare minimum and not fucking things up critically in the first place? Talk about bar being set low.
It is not only about the atmosphere of the game, that makes it good, it is also the technical aspect of the quality. And it is still a piece of crap. Characters still look like a rubber dummies and the fog is still too far thus allowing you to see a lot of open world further. And then there is a lots of bugs, glitches and other aspects of the game that makes it unplayable. So yeah, this remaster is still a piece of crap.
Bugs and glitches have been fixed on the mobile though as well as various improvements that have yet to be implemented to the console versions
@@BeatleHarrison To be honest, I don't care. Cause, if the game is trash out of the box then what's the point of fixing it? Besides, I have original GTA games and that is good enough for me. And If I wanted it to look good, I can just use mods and that's it.
@@deathcold_longplaysua4846So what’s the point of complaining about flaws that have already been fixed if you don’t care and already have the OG versions? Clearly you care
@@BeatleHarrison Because I'm voicing my own opinion on things just like everybody else. And when they came out with this mobile version and said that they improved it, I expected it to be better. But all they did is just added that missing weather effects and stuff. But the game still remains the same. It looks plastic and it plays the same to the poor big version. So why should I care about it when the changes is small? I also can voice my opinion on what I think, so that is what I did here.
@@deathcold_longplaysua4846k
its just a game, but its crazy how much of an impact this game has had on my life during my childhood and for others. Spending long days and nights playing this during the summer. If only the developers knew back in the early 2000's how much of an impact it would have. It's part of the culture now
This is the exact reason why I'm playing the PS2 version using Aethersx2 on my phone. Visuals and weather looks unmatched in DE and ps2 is totally astonishing.
How do you stop all the ghosting
@@musio3438I'm not experiencing any ghosting, game is running stable at 30 fps in 2x resolution. I've also completed the story yesterday and doing side quests.
I hope people start modding this game to add more atmospheres or recreate ps2 timecyc for every city
Just mod the original
I mean, yeah it’s not great, but it’s still better than before!
Ya gotta give it that! 🤷♂️
Do you play with classic lighting on or off?
@@TheFunnyDictator I don’t play the mobile port, I play the Switch version
It's better, but not "I'd pay for it" better.
it is free with netflix@@Darkcranio
@@GTtwothousandyou have to pay for the subscription which is not free
OG IS ON TOP. Rockstar games need to bring the original we all love the classic.
Bruh. "ALL YOU HAD TO DO, WAS FIX THE DAMN LIGHTING, ROCKSTAR!"
Great breakdown, man! Also, that CJ death sound is so damn funny! 😅🤣👌🏻
But still if they decided to update it could get way better since its in way better shape as it is now than big version from consoles
I’m not a fan of the ps2 atmosphere. It’s for sure nostalgic but it’s not realistic, especially for a supposed “definitive” edition.
so you don't like PS2 games
@@HfdghzjgHdfhfhfhfh I like it for what it was at the time, but for a ps5 definitive “remaster” it shouldn’t look like a ps2 game.
DE didn't pass the vibe check
Im saddened to see that they didn't pay speacial attention to these things. Even today this IP is still strong. I wanted to reexperience my time in the game when I was a kid playing this on a PS2 and CRT, that was peak gaming right there. If they just could just upres the PS2 version with widescreen support I would be the happiest. I actaully did mod the PC version with intent of recapturing this look and it was soo good, better than anything available officially.
Thre has been movement on Definitive Edition's SteamDB, this could mean they're still working and refining the new lighting system before releasing on other platforms. If they do make another big patch these remasters may indeed become the true definitive way of playing these games (seriously, what I most enjoyed about them is being able to simply install the game and be able to play it with modern controls, new properly scaled AI and easy mod support through Unreal Engine, the new subtitles are great as well)
I am glad SOMEONE is finally calling out this clown show for what it is. I am so fed up with people praising Rockstar for doing the bare minimum and adding a few fixes 2 years AFTER these DEmasters originally came out. It's an absolute joke how quick people are willing to forgive them for such blatant disrespect that takes out all of the artistic integrity of the original work. Corporations are not your friends, stop praising them for doing barely anything every single time.
I'm wondering if there is any mod that fixes absolutely all translucent textures such as vegetation, the sign on the gym in Ganton, the wire fence at the airport and so on, if you know of anything that fixes this then let me know. SkyGFX can partially fix this, but it does so with artifacts
Have you thought about making a configuration guide for the MixSets mod?
Thanks again, can you analyze VC and 3 on Mobile and compare it to the PC and console releases?
Possibly. SA suffers the most from the changes in the DE, so that's why I covered it.
The thing is developers don't give a sh*t about atmosphere. When they remake a videogame they switch the original lighting with a generic one. Sometimes they want to create "visual spectacle" so they just put a weird light that doesn't even fit with the game. For example the remake of The House Of The Dead has a terrible red lighting that causes the game to look goofy instead of scary. Same thing goes for the Slender The arrival remake.
How did you do the green color subtitles???
Hey TGJM, can you make a video about a mod combination for Christmas for GTASA?
I mean it's still an improvement, also it's a Mobile port.
No excuse.
@@TJGM Wow, so much for a mobile port.
It is a step in the right direction but it still needs a lot of work. At this pace they'll probably fix everything by 2050.
And GSG were the ones that gutted all of those details from the original game, the team thats been fixing their mess for months now probably didn’t have the time and budget from R* to restore them so we got this.
Bro because weather condition has been reduce and butcher which its help to create the og atmosphere Basically its return colour filter for mobile port not weather condition
How’s the mobile anniversary edition compared to the originals?
What are you talking about?
@@My_ValueHow?
It's still bad, much better to emulate the original PS2 version using AetherSX2
Well, at least mobile 10th Anniversary GTA SA on Android has a lot of really great fixes/script/mods (like JPatch, partial implementation of SkyGFX, restoration of the cut radio songs and so on) that overall makes it like maybe like≈80% fixed
@@user-fs8rn4cb6c What does JPatch do?
Do you think they'll fix it for the rest of the map, or do you think it'll remain like this forever?
Unless they rework the weather system in the DE, it's not going to change.
Even aside from colours, there was so much more to the original San Andreas weather system that made each individual weather type unique, that's just missing in the DE.
The whole idea of "definitive" edition is weird. They could've just optimize the textures and do it more hi-res and everyone'll be happy. It seems they wants to make more money of the cult games and challenging our patience. Why to make the game, which already WAS perfect even better? I think Rockstar did their best back in the early 2000s and the whole idea of the definitive edition is just a wasted time...
It would be really good if you made a gta 4 essentials guide, especially since 6 got announced might do some numbers. Everytime I go to play 4 I get so lost with the conflicting info and modding guides, you could leave a definitive stamp
A video installing the essential GTA IV mods will be out in a few hours.
In regards to a guide though, I don't know because I'm still learning about IV myself and I'd rather not release something until I'm 100% sure it's correct.
You're such a hunk. Lot's of love from up North lad @@TJGM
It seems that the developers only played in Los Santos xd
0:41 isn't this the VC weather sunset thingy?
I feel like the classic lightning in GTA III and GTA VC worked better than GTA SA DE.
How hard is it for rockstar to hire talented developers to remaster and port their games? The original on PS2 or the modded PC versions are the only good way to play these games till this day
any mod recommendations that do this better?
Just like what assassins creed mirage did added classic filter when in the og game has different atmospheres in each areas
nice vid
Glad you did this comparision
This is what you get when you rush it and all of the developers are assistant developers, not the actual wizards. The dev's are probably some 16 year old interns from a tech-school program. They obviously don't have a developed mindset over portaling and changing states. Since schools simply do not teach that. The mobile versions are just a publicity stunt, a port. It's great to have them and even better when the titles finally reach the OG standards.
hello. i have a question. why i cant instal imvehft on my gta. error 126, i dont understand how to fix it
Error 126 is usually related to missing Windows libraries or a missing .DLL file.
didnt all enbs remove gta weather types too?
Yeah, another reason I don't recommend ENB.
does the mobile version support gamepad
Original ps2 trilogy is irreplaceable. I wonder if this unfinished weather effect affects gta 3 and vice city too
Someone should make mods of classic atmosphere for all cities
Good vid
Well the reason behind why gta definitive edition missed alot of lovely features in their original games is companies that made and making ports of definitive edition is not rockstar itself it is mobile companies
So they just ported the GSG Trilogy Definitive edition and removed the post processing effect restored with PS2 timecyc added. Still a same shit! Damn WTF LA Noire Devs 🤦
I need CJ dying of starvation for 10 hours.
😂
Honestly they should just stop touching these games at this point, it's like when you fuck something up so bad you have to have someone telling you "just stop you're making it worse, just stop....." clearly these are never going to be the og the skillset of the new devs have proven they don't go past the LS part of the storyline
Dang, and here I was given some faith
Glad I'm not the only one that sees cars turn low quality whenever I'm 5 feet away from them
I actually like that the definitive editions are so lacklustre, even the mobile version. It just makes the originals even better, especially PS2.
Also don’t see many mentioning that while classic lighting restores the colours of GTA 3, everything else about that game is still far too bright and clean looking.
It likes using weather cheat when outside from los santos since all weather cheats from los santos
Bro could you please compress the gta sa de for us who use low end device mine is 4 gb ram and Mediatek MT6769V/CB Helio G70 (12 nm chip it's laggy plzz 😢
I'm using a Pixel 6 and it's also laggy. The port is terrible.
they are removing the sun out of our memories now.
They shouldn't do definitive edition thing to this beautiful sequence. Everything becomes mad.
Damn the subtitles on this vid are chonky
As I expected ios 16.0 required to play
This is the exact video I was waiting on. Still a lazy port they just added a filter basically. It's a shame these games deserved better. Rockstar would print money if they remade them 1 by 1 they could charge 70 a piece probably. Honestly rockstar should be the ones actually doing these ports or have alot closer supervision and control.
It actually still looks good,
But just missing the original OG lightings.
It's only in San Andreas btw.
Vice City looks pretty good to me.
And GTA 3 is the best among these 3 remastered mobile ports.
imo, they shouldn't do definitive edition to this sequence. Everything became more chaotic about technical support.
Lay'er?
I know, right? Least now we can finally say they tried. 🤣
Rest in peace, Carl Johnson.
Why didn’t they just remaster the game instead of doing a crappy remake?
The modded version of the original gta sa on steam with the texture overhaul mod ROSA Evolved was working perfectly up til Russian bike chase mission where the end mission cutscene just kept crashing for no reason. I'll go back n reinstall that mod again from the backup of the baseline modded game folder.
Thanks for that
Man who knew just a simple ps2 game that was amazing and still is could be so hard to restore & replicate in todays age kinda makes you scratch your head.
At least it's better than PC version
Still Better Than Defective Edition Of PC and Consoles
The mobile one is 144p
The original mobile one is 1080p
Still better than how it was.
Mobile gamers aren't too happy with this lackluster lazy port either. Only modders can save this trash now.
It's a closed Game... For sure it Will be serverside killed someday.
I have literally not seen 1 mobile gamer complain about it. They’re literally praising it for the various bug and glitch fixes as well as the other mechanic improvements
@@BeatleHarrison you should check out real gamer's reactions not just those kids who play gacha games on their phones.
@@laminnabam2299I have checked out real gamers reactions lmao. Literally everyone on twitter, Reddit and gta forums are praising it. Only people I see complaining about it are kids or people with broken English on UA-cam
Not worth saving. If you have a PC:
Get the OG Trilogy, downgrade it to 1.0 and get SilentPatch, SkyGFX, WidescreenFix and a PS2 map/assets mod to fix the bugs around the map/vehicles. SilentPatch supports 4K and high Anti Aliasing settings to make it look sharp.
And for GTA IV+EFLC: Radio downgrader, FusionFix and Console Visuals.
There's your REAL definitive editions.
While the atmosphere is better
It isnt as good as the original
it seems like they just cant capture the same effect in the new graphical engine (Ue4)
Pinpointed critique.
The "Definitive" edition is doomed to begin with. Starting with the fact it's based on the mobile port - with all its flaws - and up to the fact they removed this delicate weather system from San Andreas.
SMH, this is literally a scam in my book. They claim to be faithful to original, but only did the most surface level job and hoped people won't notice.
You teach them thier games
Say whatever you want to say, OG is still the best.
We will never have a good remaster of GTA San Andreas
This was Rockstar's 2nd and surely last attempt to remaster this game yet they still butchered it
It really pisses me off cuz San Andreas is my favorite GTA
Oh
Finally someone calls out the garbage that SA DE mobile is. I've seen people praise it for the effort put into VC because ofc gotta please brainless SA fans and clump the whole trilogy together when we praise it for one game instead of speaking the truth. It has less brightness and has the superior GTA 3DE Claude model but the rest..God damn. One's an even worse looking mobile game most of the time and the other looks better than the PC version.
gta mobile hand finger
Still have close enough colours, just in different time of day. And anyway I like this lighting much more than og for lv.
what the fuck is extra sunny weather at midnight??
"Extrasunny" is the way Rockstar calls the weather that is completely devoid of clouds, doesn't matter if its day or night. It's the same way they call the lights being cast on ground and the pools of bloods as "shadows"
@@DonRamon_SeuMadruga_52231 ohhh thanks