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I freaking love my Makita router, been using it for 4 years now. I will say the base is small though. It's great on the plunge base! Also I bought a base extension for it on Amazon. Just thought I'd mention that I'm a professional carpenter who is self employed and as someone who is building cabinets and doors and doing millwork the Makita has been great!
Trigger clamps for me are like an extra set of hands. I don't really use them for actual clamping, I just use them to help hold or support things until I can get more robust clamps in place or drive some fasteners in. The fact that can be used one-handed is what gives them unique utility over F-style clamps. I really do think every shop or home owner can benefit from a few 6" to 12" trigger clamps. You certainly don't need a ton, but a few can be beneficial.
Just recently I was using them to help hold gable ladders in place for the shed I was building. Would have been a nightmare to do that with F-style clamps.
exactly. I build a lot of outdoor furniture and they are essential to help hold parts in place until they can be either marked or fastened. But I do agree they have limited clamping power.
Understood. I have about 20 of the 6" irwins and maybe 10 or 12 of the 12".
But in my defence, The big box, Menards near me was blowing them out for about 6 months because they were going to (and did) stop selling them.
The 6" were selling for $10 for a 4 pack and the 12s were $10 for a pack of 2! I couldn't pass that up!
But I do use them kind of often. Mostly smaller edge glue ups.
You have 4 festool track saws. How many do you need? I see three festool routers too.
I had a router bit break on me while in use. I was never so grateful for having my eye protection on as I was that day. A fragment smacked of the edge of the goggles right above my right eye
Lesson learned! Always wear eye protection and spend a few extra bucks on quality bits. Don't cheap out
“Red wall collecting used to be a thing” as he’s standing by a green wall with 4 track saws😂😂
Was just about to post the *exact* same comment. LOL, "its not necessary to have the red wall"... with thousands of dollars of the same tool behind him.... (and LOTS of Festool boxes in shot as well)
Those green tools are ridiculously over-priced for no more than what they are....lots of much more affordable alternatives to that stuff. That woodpecker stuff is the same way, over-priced for what it is, and far more affordable alternatives.
Yeah, I wish he would have been standing in front of a different backdrop when stating that. I'm not currently a subscriber and that lack of awareness will probably keep me from subscribing. I will still tune in from time to time when the video suits me though.
Thanks for the video. I have the Makita corded handheld router and love it. Haven't tried the dewalt but kind of laughed when you used 2 hands to adjust it after complaining about the Makita.
Thanks for watching!
It's always good to hear what others think of the stuff that I have and use, not because I necessarily agree, but because it's good to get other perspectives. I just got that same Ridgid spindle/belt sander you mention (after using and hating an older Ryobi oscillating spindle sander for years), I've used it a few times, and I absolutely love it. I also use trigger clamps all the time, but we obviously have different needs. Thanks!
I have the same Rigid oscillating spindle sander and it's not perfect. But I needed it for a special project (interior weight-reducing oval cutouts in a fishbone frame for a paddleboard) and I have since used it quite a lot for odd projects. The storage is not well designed, and the dust collection is horrible. But it was not expensive and it lets me get the job done.
I use trigger clamps every day all day. as a cabinet installer you need them but you only need like two and that is enough! I also use them to hold things down quickly and easily onto my workbench when I am routing or flush trimming
Yeah, I have four Irwin squeeze clamps that get almost constant use. It's just nice to have one-handed operation when moving them around. F-style and bar clamps are my go-to when doing glue ups. Parallel clamps are just too expensive for my hobbyist woodworking.
I'm not a cabinet installer but the trigger clamps get used a lot in my little shop too. Admittedly, they are cheapos from that place where cheapo things are bought but for my purposes they are fine, at least for now. The cross pattern on the rubber pads allow me to hold apron frames in place when building things like coffee/end tables. And, as you said, great for holding a piece to the workbench. If you follow the advice of Izzy Swan, you can add a rubber band to make them "quick-clamps"...sorta.
I bought the plunge base for my Makita trim router, I haven't used the base it came with for a very long time. The Plunge Base solved all of those issue for me.
Ditto I like my makita plunge base, it has all the stops and setting options I need, - just picked up a throat insert and a set of template guides for the makita to upgrade from my 1980’s craftsman that’s showing its age.
Thank you for your service to our country, sir.
My pleasure
Jason. Appreciate your honest experiences and yes all of us eventually find out the hard way what we should have done. That's the fun of woodworking.
I am brand new to woodworking. Mostly. I’ve some tools over years but now I am actually starting some stuff. Projects etc. These videos help. A lot. Nothing here I would’ve bought, at least not yet, but I will make do and do well with hand tools. In time. Thanks man! 🤙🏾
You’re welcome
If you’d like a great deal on cordless drill and or impact, you can’t go wrong with the Ridgid drills. Lifetime Service Agreement. They will fix or replace the tool for life. The best is free batteries for life! Only brand that has this. I’m a retired professional cabinet builder and love the value of Ridgid. You do have to register your tools for LSA to work
I went with the DeWalt cordless trim router, that was my first Yellow tool buy!
Jason, completely agree on the Inca router table… it’s an awkward orientation. I purchased the Jessem ultimate router station w/ TA fence + Pow R Tek spindle and absolutely love it. Merry Christmas, happy holiday. Really enjoy your channel. 26yr Ret Coastie.
Handy to have a few trigger clamps for one handed clamping until you can get something better on
I would have been shocked if the Ridgid sander wasn't on your list. It is on everybody's list of tools to hate. I love mine. Use it all the time. I don't like the storage of cylinders either because I have it on a flip base with another tool. I agree dust collection is poor so I made a dust collector box that works great and gets about 90% of the dust, maybe more.
I also made a flip top for mine to share space with my Dewalt 735. The first time I flipped it I realized the error of my ways.
I didn't care for the Makita base or adjustment either. DeWALT and Milwaukee Cordless Trim routers are much better IMO. Cool clock on the wall :)
I got a Milwaukee router when you posted a deal about it back in 2022 -- no regrets! 👊
Need to get one for your wall 😉
Hindsight is wonderful plus I would also add that I have to agree with you on most of your reasoning. An excellent video and fair video Jason. Before I retired I ran my own tool business including INCRA, Woodpecker and Festool. I sold my INCRA router table and kept my Festool one, one of my biggest mistakes.
Great video Jason. I agree with a lot of what you said. Been contemplating getting rid of the Bench top drill press and woodpeckers table for a while now. Also wondering why I have some of the woodpeckers stuff I have. This video is almost like having someone tell you “it’s okay, you can let them go” lol. Thanks Jason!
Amana router bits are great, and their catalog is extensive. You can get all kinds of special bits. For example I use their 1/64" overhang bit for trimming laminate. It's a flush trim bit with the cutter undersized 1/64" compared to the bearing. I use that to cut the bulk of the laminate and glue off, then go back wkth a good sharp bit for the final pass. The final pass bit lasts much longer and cuts better because it only has to take off the last 1/64.
There's an interesting difference between how we use analog and digital readouts, and I'll go with a clock as an analogy to demonstrate it. I've been around long enough that I lived through the introduction of digital watches. I currently wear one, because (a) it's actually a fitbit and I want to display more than just the time on the screen (digital takes less real estate) and (b) I work in computing where knowing the precise time is often important. On my phone, I have the clock configured as an old style analog face.
But how often do you really need to know that it's 7:45:23 rather than "about quarter to 8"? I ran a little experiment where, for a few days, whenever I saw someone look at their watch, I would wait a breath or two then ask them the time. They always had to go back and look at their watch - they didn't actually record in their head what they had just read. That's because, most of the time, we are looking to answer a different question, such as "is it lunch time yet?". In other words we're interested in a "relative" time - and analog watch faces work much better for that. You don't need to do any mental arithmetic, or even really read the real time. You just look at the relative positions of the two hands, or maybe just the hour hand.
Now, to bring it back to woodworking: I have both a digital and an analog vernier caliper. When I want to measure something (like a drill bit size, or screw shank etc) I go with the digital. When I want to transfer a measurement from one piece to another, I go with the vernier - because I never actually read the vernier scale, and it never runs out of batteries (which sometimes cost more than the tool itself)
This digital/analog dichotomy between precision and "good enough" permeates our lives. For example, which is easier to understand: 133.7 degrees, or "roughly South East"? Airplanes need the former, humans the latter.
Another thing I use trigger clamps for is in extention mode, I use them in a jig I built to join together scarfed plywood for boats. Not something everyone needs, but the take-away is that while every other clamp might be better for some specific use, the trigger clamp was the one that adapted to this major need I have, and made it happen after years of searching for a solution. They are really adaptable.
Amazing. With the exception of the bobbin sander, I've made all the same mistakes as you, and couldn't agree more.
Jason, you're reasoning for the router table is exactly the same reason that I went the same direction. I ended up with the Jessem Ultimate Excel II Router table package. I went all out and got the dust box with it as well. I have to say that I can HIGHLY recommend the table package. Like all of Jessem's products, it is accurate, precise, easy to use, and tough as a brick s***house. It is worth every single penny that you have to scrape from the bottom of the couch cushions to get it.
I also went the extra mile, and enclosed the table base, adding some drawers to it for storing accessories and bits. It's a purchase that will feel like highway robbery, same as Festool, but damn if it isn't an absolute joy to use.
JessEm is great stuff. I bought an "Xacta" lift about 25 years ago. It was the first one I've seen, likely because it was the first one. I found out later that it was made by JessEm. I've since replaced it with a JessEm with a standard footprint (the Xacta is 14", by 11-1/8, or some such). Last year I put it in a Harvey cast iron wing extension (on my Unisaw). It took me a while to get it adapted but it's been great.
I've been watching your videos for years. Had no idea you were a fellow Hoosier. Hello from Fortville, IN.
Yup, lived here since 2020
Great video--solid reasoning on all these choices. One thing I'd add--not buying cheap router bits (and any other cheap bits) is also a lot safer.
Great video thanks for sharing as a new woodworker it’s easy to get lost in all these tools so it’s great to see someone say what not to buy. So for a new woodworker what router bits from Whiteside would you recommend to start buying?
Re the router table segment- I’d recommend getting a combination machine to replace your slider (e.g Hammer C3-41, Minimax lab 300 or similar). Sliders are great and what makes the combination machine even better is the shaper (some can be fitted to use regular, cheaper router bits). The shaper enables you to use the length of the table as well the sliding table itself with the fence. You cannot beat that with any router table.
The router bit 'bit' was the one I really connected with. Boy did I learn my lesson on that one, and sadly more than once. The Rigid sander was a close second (haven't touched mine in 7 years).
I was watching another video and saw the thumbnail.
I already completely agree and I am just starting the video! That ridgid sander was tons of wasted space. Some people love it, but I’m in a 12 x 16 shop and space is at a premium.
In all honesty, I’m not dropping on others who love the sander or other tools, but to much time is spent only talking about the good things a tool can do and not enough about how it could be not only more than you need, but larger than you have space for. There’s almost a pressure in the community where you “need” all the types of tools.
In almost every case, there is more than one way to do ANY specific task. It took me years to learn that and now I have spent the last couple years getting rid of certain tools for more space to work.
Great video….
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@3weight Your decision ultimately is based on what you like to make. I own the Rigid sander, an old 6x48 craftsman belt / disk sander (never use the Disk) and a sand-rite drum / flap wheel sander as stationary tools. I restore and build furniture, make executive desks to bird houses. When I need to sand curves, one of these sanders gets called into play. The old craftsman gets the most use though. The Rigid beats the snot out of a drum on a drill.
@@3weight Remember the Rigid also gives you a 4x24 belt sander in that package that works great as well in a small footprint.
I have the WEN oscillating sander still in the box, sealed for over a year.
Brilliant, you made it real; taken some supposedly must buy tools and related them to practical woodworking uses. what struck me most was pointing out that inaccessible tools are not often used - that is so true especially if your are earning a living from production or just need to get the job done fast. makes me wonder if tool s on wheels is the way to go?
I have the Rigid oscillating sander. I use it all the time, but you are right, the dust collection stinks.
Sound advice. I agree with the Forstner(they are a great brand), Brad Bits, Larger Grip Clamps, Laser Level. I don't have any Woodpeckers, I did look but their international freight are not reasonable. I do use similar corner clamps and I have used 1000mm,600mm,300mm Stainless Steel rules for all of my cabinetry . I also buy once and cry once. I'd recommend the NOVA drill press , I also found the belt driven one a pain in the arse. I will recommend you to the Jessem Router Table though I have never got the Wixkey digital dial to ever work on it with an unresolved ground error. Regards
Nicely done. I have tools that i feel the same way about. On another note, I noticed your 10th Mountain patch in the background. I served there as well from 93 to 95 as part of Division Artillery.
I don't know if I missed it but why don't you set the router table up so it's facing out and can be used 'left to right' so you can use it without moving?
Not sure which drill press you have there. I think Nova, who also makes lathes (Teknatool) was the first to make a variable speed drill press. I have one of the PMs, and love it. I think I use it mostly for lathe projects though. Some jigs also. I use rulers all the time, 6, 12, and 24 inch. A lot of the time I use them for drawing. When possible, I like to draw out furniture plans full scale. Never learned CAD stuff....
I have a few of the items you showed the 1)wood pecker Combo that fastened together they are better then what I had 2) the Ridgid spindle belt sander 1 of my favorite tools in my shop (dust collection could definitely improve) 3) the Dewalt clamps don’t use them much …. I think my biggest regret is getting a bunch of 48” Rockler bar clamps and NO 24” clamps, with the most of my current stuff I do the 24” Rockler clamps would be nice to have
I went through the same process a few years ago, I went with Milwaukee M18 wanting to only have one battery platform.....
10+yrs later i got Milwaukee, Festool, DeWalt, Makita & Fein batteries 🤔
I have got the 18v DeWalt trim router with fixed & plunge & I would recommend it to anyone.
One thing about the dewalt router that I also use is the location of the on/off switch. I'm right handed and I was doing champfer edges and found when done is putting the router down, upside down to look for the off switch. Not thought out I feel. And no builtin vac attachment, as some wood shavings get caught in the shoe-base openings, and can fight you using it. Sure there is the DNP615 but it now blocks your view of the bit. I dislike router tables ever since I used a shaper.
I have an old, a very old, Black & Decker router that adjusts in a similar way as the DeWALT, by turning a ring that moves the router inside the base. From what I've seen, the adjustment on the DeWALT is easier than on my B&D though, because the ring on the B&D is not connected to the router. This style makes it a lot easier to get an accurate depth adjustment than the adjustment method that is on my Milwaukee M18 router. There's too much "play" in the adjustment wheel before the router actually starts moving, and you can still move the wheel when the clamp is tightened, although it doesn't change the depth setting of the router bit. Since I didn't want to be on multiple battery platforms, I bought the Milwaukee and I'm constantly fighting with the adjustment to get the exact depth I want.
All your points are very well put. Some don't reflect exactly my position, but they all make good sense. Well done!
Man you just helped me finally decide. Like you I bought a ton of tools all the cool kids had I saw on youtube when I got into the craft over a decade ago and already had a bunch of tools from years of construction and cement work and just kept buying but now for my business I just use around 7-10 of the same tools over and over and it works well and im constantly building wall shelves and finding ways to make room in my garage till my shop is built. I'm going on a fire sale and gain back some space and peace! I need to be inspired to want to woodwork now a days for orders and personal and when the shops in order I feel it but with so much shit it only takes me a half hour to mess it all up lol. Great video, thank you! #missionregainspace
I liked this video content and have enjoyed your other tool reviews, shop build outs, etc. What would help though is more context. By that I mean not necessarily specific project videos but something like "a year in my shop". I think it would informative and interesting to know the mix of projects and how that affects your tool needs. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the idea!
What brand of drill bit set did you use?
Very good information, Bent. And easy to watch and listen to. Thanks a lot.
Everything you have said lines up with my own personal experience except for the trigger clamps.
I have a lot of them and still sometimes wish I had a couple more in the middle of a project.
That is more a function of what I work on so it may not apply to everyone.
Thanks for doing this podcast. It was very helpful to me as I’m starting to set up my woodworking shop at home. I wish someone had done this for all the camera gear I’ve bought over the past 20 years that I never use. I could have funded my workshop with those wasted buys.
I have a few trigger clamps never use them. Purchased some cheap router bits mostly not used but some only once others wore quickly, then working out what I needed. As for the sander mine is well used.
Thank you for this video. Just starting off this helps. But would love to get the things you are getting rid of. Hard to build
Enjoyed your video. Kudo's for talking about BetterHelp. Appreciate your take on what to buy, or not. Only disagreement was on trigger clamps. I mount some power tools on 3/4" plywood and use trigger clamps to my workbench. I have a Rikon slow speed grinder, with one grinding wheel and one wire wheel. Use it to buy old auger bits and clean off the rust. Also have a Kreg K5 mounted to 3/4" plywood board. I can put these tools out of the way, and when I need them, put them on my bench clamped securely. Love the Whiteside bits.
Jason, i have exact same setup with Nova and WP DP Pro Kit. However I did some mod that i actually record it and hopefully i can find time to edit it and publish it. It give it much better depth usaibility.
100% agree with your assessment on the clamps. Just not enough strength for many of my needs.
100% agree about the router bits!
Funny how people have different preferences. I like my DeWalt trigger clamps. They are generally convenient and work well. I did buy a few parallel clamps, but they are pricey. I am using them to establish a plane when I glue up panels and paneled doors and fiiling in with the trigger clamps as needed.
I recently bought two by Bessy. I found it tricky to break the adjustable part free from the fixed end.
I was thinking about getting the Red clamping squares, but you have me rethinking that.
Thanks for another interesting and well-done video.
I bought the incra router table years ago, and completely agree with your comment that you need to relearn it every time you use it unless you are using it daily. Mine is free standing in the middle of my shop, so I don't have the wall issue you have, but I don't come close to maximizing its capabilities.
Great information! Also enjoyed thr Mr. Roger's throwback opening.
Glad you enjoyed it
Dude I just got that DeWalt trim router in the mail this week and used it for the first time yesterday to do an inlay. No idea why I waited so long. And it sounds nice!!
Nice!!
Same. It was this channel that convinced me to get it even if it meant adding another battery ecosystem. I'm glad I did. Got a good package deal that included two batteries, the trim router, a jig saw, and a sander. I don't understand how I lived so long without a cordless trim router, let alone one as nice as the DeWalt. The main issue is that it's rather bulky for a trim router. I have big hands and it's right at the limit of what I can comfortably grip one-handed. The other thing I don't like is the switch. DeWalt loves those dastardly microscopic rubber encased rocker switches that are super hard to use.
I have an Incra router table, too, and I have similar feelings about the sometimes awkward fence orientation but also love the great dust collection and the fence micro-adjust (a godsend compared to bump and pray). So, I'm looking into adding a second fence that runs in the other direction. Swapping fences wouldn't be fun to do everyday but it's only a few bolts and I'll have the best of both worlds available.
I have that ridged sander, I use it quite a lot and right now really couldn't do without but if I could find something better I would switch, I have the same gripes , its dusty , the belt is constantly needing tracking adjustment and the accessories are more or less useless. I use mine as a spindle sander for doing rounded things and to some degree as an edge sander but it doesnt work very well for that because he belt is so short. It is nice because its compact
I would recommend the Jessem Masterlift 2 table . The crank handle on the side is so handy I mean next level handy . I also have the new Jessem Spindle along with the dust box and hose kit. I have the TA fence with the added micro adjusting added . This Kit is expensive no doubt but does it work great YES! I am intrigued by the new Woodpecker fece I think that fence is probably pretty awesome as well. The Jessem Miter slide is a pretty clever and pretty handy item as well . Those are my two cents. I am at a period of my life where I have some discretionary income and I hate buying things twice.
Lmk if you end up selling the woodpeckers drill press table, I’ve been in opposite mode of you and using my press more but lack those features. Thx for the video as always
The opening walking into the shop through the door from the house was awesome, didnt realize that was something I was missing from youtube till I saw it. Not sure if it is Mr Rodgers nostalgia like others have mentioned or what, but I really liked it. Hundred percent agree on most of your choices, especially the laser, i cringe when i see peeps buy the only forward facing ones, you know they will love having one and will grab it more then they think. And they will quickly want the 360 line.
Good video Jason. During your discussion on the bench-top drill press, I opened another browser window and was looking for F-style clamps on Amazon to replace my PITA trigger clamps. Then, a couple minutes later, there you are talking about trigger clamps. Yup, me too, I have more trigger clamps than parallel or f-style. And, BTW, looking good my man! Keep up the great work.
I have the Incra fence for my tablesaw and the Incra router fence and lift. Love them both.
Great video! Totally agree with the bit packages, I get them, use a few till they die, then end up getting new ones, so I have a bunch of quarter used sets...
Ha! These are lots of the same things I’ve found. I recently bought the cordless Dewalt trim router. I am so glad I did. I love it. I reach for it over my Bosch corded trim all the time now.
The Rigid sander… I had the Triton one. Same thing. The more I used it and the more i learned… it just wasn’t giving me the results I wanted.
I have TONS of router bits that I bought the whole package. Buy the bit you need and buy a good one. The rest just take up room. I gifted a set that I had to a new woodworker that was just starting out. You’d have thought I gave him my right kidney. Same thing with bits. I have multiple cheap kits. It’s time to get rid of them and just buy a good set.
I’ve been holding off on replacing my trigger clamps. I started out with them and of course… they did the job. But once you start using the f-style it changes. I still use some of my trigger clamps. But not as often as I used to. Especially now that I have an MFT
Great video!
It's good info, and very useful. I laughed a bit to myself when I saw the four festool track saws and three routers behind you. I hope you've got more than just you working in this shop, otherwise, your next video might be "Tools I just can't get enough of"
I was thinking the same thing, get rid of the red tools to have more room for green tools. I'm guilty with my favorite brand of tools as well. I can relate to buying tools that I thought I needed but rarely use. But if it makes your shop experience more enjoyable to have an impressive tool wall, then who's to judge? I like having all the cool tools, but 17 track saws? LOL, I can't say anything though, I've got 9 different sanders. But they all have a different purpose right? That's what I tell the wife....
Yeah, ~$5000 worth of track saws in a garage shop seems a bit like overkill.
@@toddsalmon6541 Case of has too much money not enough brains....far better solutions out there than those green tools in the first place....nothing that company makes that you can't get in a different color for less than 1/2 the price LOL....
So the back side, I have 3 large good quality power tools that almost never get used, 22/44 Jet Drum Sander, Jet Oscillating Spindle sander, Delta floor drill press. Hate the though of getting rid of them, not sure how best to sell them, but sit along a wall taking up space.
And yes, the Graco Power Shot got me into the DeWalt battery space, and first other DeWalt tool I got was the very same trim router! Otherwise love the blue cordless I have, from impact driver to multi-tool. So far all my green tools are corded, and if you go for my Domino you'll pull back stump.
It would be cool, one of these days if you could share your views on disposing of tools.
I’ve been at this for a little over a year and a half now and luckily I haven’t bought too many things I don’t use. I love my rockler master kit router table but am not in love with the fence. I should’ve done Harvey, woodpeckers or jessem. I regret not getting more festool but when I was first buying things, it seemed like such a high price until I realized I probably put 20,000 into everything. Mainly the tracksaw. The Kreg is good but not great. I often have to fight with myself to not buy things just because they look cool. It’s a sickness. I have to ask myself if I already have a way to do what that does?Is it going to get me further towards my ultimate goal? Will it serve more purposes than just one?
Good way of looking at it
It's not a sickness. It's better than collecting antiques. 😁
My problem is that, over the last ten years, I've probably bought ten tools to do the same operations. Most of the originals are unused because the newer one is far better at the operation. I have a jig called a "Mortise Pal" that has been "replaced" several times, the latest being a Domino. I'm not going to cop to the $$ sitting in the basement.
Question: What digital readout tool do you recommend?
I struggled with Incra router table and settled with jessem. For me, the jessem has everything I want.
Great video. Other than two spokeshaves and a small shoulder plane I can't get to work, I've been lucky with most of my tools/equipment; with one expensive exception, and it's the costliest tool I've purchased: an Inca 10.5" jointer/planer. It worked beautifully for building my workbench, all my shop cabinets, and a few furiture pieces, then the nylon weirdo gear stripped. Inca was out of business, so I now have a $3,000 paperweight. Makes me sick.
Thank you for this video.
Always curious what type of table base you have your MFTs mounted on? Bolted to each other and without the legs is a cool workaround for utilizing the under table space. Looks like a single metal unit.
I believe he just built it
What is the "one way gauge" with dial indicator that you mentioned, and Where can someone purchase one? I tried typing one way gauge with dial indicator on Amazon, and it pulled up nothing even remotely similar to what you were referring to a one way gauge.
Haha, different battery platforms....I know the feeling....although I don't feel bad about it, it opens up more opportunities for tools across different brands, depending on availability and price....being stuck to 1 battery platform limits you to whatever that brand has and their prices. I have Ryobi, Ridgid, Bauer, and Hercules platforms. Sold off all my Dewalt stuff because to be honest their prices are ridiculous for the lackluster performance some of their tools have now VS other brands....and now the bare tool prices are to the point where you may as well go buy a kit from a different brand...even during their "Dewalt Days" the prices are not great, and the selection of items keeps dwindling down it seems each time they have a "sale". Probably might venture into Milwaukee and Makita at some point as well. Given a wide range of different battery platforms I can pick from.
I guess I should re-visit Dewalt for a second, I do have the Dewalt 60V chainsaw and Attachment Capable Weed Eater....so I mean I could run Dewalt stuff if I wanted, but those batteries are ridiculously heavy, and even more expensive than the 20V stuff, and since I don't do anything with my tools construction or industrial related anymore, I don't see the need to have those tools anymore. The weed eater and chainsaw I use often enough to keep around, but not really a platform I'd just jump into unless you have that specific need for all that weight and cost. They don't have very many 60V (Flexvolt) tools that aren't available in a regular 20V version for 1/2 the price.
I don't have a trim router at all, haven't really seen a need for one with the DIY stuff I do, but I think that would be one tool I'd just buy the corded version if I ever needed one.
I have a floor standing drill press, does everything I need it to do, and its just a basic Harbor Freight model. I think its a 16 speed model....I have one of the drill press vises mounted on the table, and use it for drilling pen blanks...I haven't made pens for a couple years now, but still find myself using the drill press occasionally for other projects, just not as often.
I just have a bare basic router/table combo from Skil. I don't use a router very often so that small benchtop model works great for me, and I can store it out of the way until I need it and just set it on a bench.
That's why I keep those cheap bit sets around, if I need to drill something that I know is going to destroy or otherwise damage a bit, I go to those cheap ones LOL. If someone wants to borrow bits, those are the ones they get. I have a nice bit set, but it only gets used for wood working purposes....those cheap bits are great for drilling metal, the nice bits won't get used for anything other than wood working for sure....
An oscillating spindle sander would be nice, but I don't find myself using one or wanting one often enough to justify buying one. Like you mentioned there are other methods you can use and no need that type of sander.
I don't use routers very often, but I do buy slightly better bits I guess maybe than those jumbo kits you see all over for cheap. I have a few of the carbide router bits from Harbor Freight in the Bauer and Hercules line...they seem pretty good, and for no more than I use them, they're fine....Whitesides makes great router bits for sure....and I think they make shaper bits and cutters as well....if I get another shaper I'll go with Whitesides for those cutters....the shaper I think I'd find myself using more if I had one now....all the different cutters you can get you can do all sorts of stuff with them.
I bought a drill bit sharpener a few years ago, don't do that again, I've never really needed to use it, by the time I think a bit needs sharpened I've ruined it drilling something that I shouldn't have with it anyhow LOL.
Do/did you use the oneway gauge on your table saw? (The slider and the SawStop) I looked for videos of people using the oneway for different things and only found planer blades.
Cant tell for sure, but it looks like you have 4 or 5 festool track saws on a shelf back there.. if so, why so many?
As a 20-year veteran of the Navy, I just wanted to say thank you for your service. Also, I definitely like your videos. I only do the woodworking as a hobby, more to occupy some of my time than to actually produce something, so most of your tool recommendations are outside my budget. Not because I can't afford them (I truly have more money than sense), but I just can't justify the cost vs. the intended use. Still, your teaching videos are top-notch and I do appreciate your patience in showing just how to do something.
As a 25-year USAF veteran, I thank you for your service!
I am a lot like you but sometimes buying that quality tool makes your hobby more enjoyable even if the quality isn’t necessary. And if you can afford it, that can be worth a lot.
I don't understand why (former) military personnel always thank each other for their service. Since both parties provided the same service, just usually a different branch.
@@ernavill3261I am retired from the Vietnam era but I still thank those currently serving and retired. Not hard to understand at all if you can comprehend what is sacrificed and for what.
@@ernavill3261 It's showing some love.
One problem with trigger clamps is the price has soared. I do have bar clamps, and a lot of C clamps. But trigger clamps are useful for freezing parts, or work holding, if you don't have the perfect set of vises or MFTs. I actually use boxes of the mini trigger clamps all the time. Great for guitars and other small projects.
Late last year, Home Depot had DeWalt four-packs (two 300#, 12" and two 150# 8", I think), for $35. I picked up a bunch, even though I also have Irwins. I need them in two rooms. I've used sixteen for one project. Ten were used to clamp cauls, so there is probably a better way for them.
I bought a oneway base, and I have two Mit. digitals, but I still reach for the dial indicator more often. And they are super cheap. The magnetic bases are also very cheap, and they work in so many different functions. There are a lot of those "Red" things that are 10X expensive for what probably ends up as a one time measurement. For instance the New Katz Moses thing for making sleds. It is nice, but if you can't figure out 10 ways to measure that out for peanuts, including some with a dial, the tools aren't the problem.
Interesting points and I have made many tool purchases that were great tools but I didn't use them much. I ditched the drill press nearly 3 years ago to make room for a CNC and haven't missed it. One point on digital vs. analog for dial indicators though. The digital are great for a point to point measurement such as verifying blade alignment to miter slot/fence to an individual blade tooth however, it is lousy for detecting trends for adjustments such as tramming a CNC spindle. Both have their places which is why I have and use both. Steve
When I moved and down sized. I got a Porter Cable 10" drill press, and used my old piece of plywood drill press table that I've had for 15 years. Recently I upgraded it by drilling 20mm holes in it for clamping.
Still have my Rockler mini router table and fence. I did purchased the cheapest Incra fence system 15 years ago for about $60. It mounts to my MFT and my router table connects to the MFT as well. Hardly use it. Got a box joint jig from Peachtree Wood working and I use that instead. Been using my HF drill bits forever. Replace bits as they break. Also bought the Irwin spade bits as a Christmas present to myself years ago. They work just fine.
I have a 6" sanding disk on my lathe and I mounted my Porter Cable Spindle sander in my router table. But to be honest, I could just mount a spindle in my drill press and use it in stead for all of the spindle sanding I do.
I keep a bucket of clamps in the shop. They are stored in PVC tubes to keep them separated. .
Stay away from the cheap router bit sets. Sometimes their shank size is not quite the right size which causes them to wonder up or down .
Next garage sale, I think I have a few candidates for the "Guy's Corner".
I'm just getting back into woodworking as I'm retiring. I'm just wondering why would anyone need 4 track saws and several routers? Has woodworking changed that much to warrant that many pieces of the same or at the very least similar tools? I have 2 routers a large plunge router and a trim router. (both dewalt). Just wondering as not only are they similar, they are of the highest grade of tools. I can't imagine how much money he has spent on those tools. Just curious... I guess if you can afford it by all means buy it. lol
I completely agree with you on getting rid of all yourWoodpecker’s stuff
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LOL. No bias in that comment, right?
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Trigger clamps are an absolute necessity in a small shop. They are a 3rd hand when you're working alone and they are one-handed. Try using any other clamp with one hand.
I would suggest a spindle moulder over the router table. The ability to run all of your router bit, plus other cutter heads. Super solid construction. The option tomhave sliding tables. It depends on your needs but definitely worth looking at.
If I already had the incra router table I would just build it into my main workbench to get around the issues you are having. The fence system just drops into dog holes if Ivremember correctly so you can easily just remove it and hang it on the wall when not in use.
Another great video Jason. I have been planning to buy the incra router table and the same drill press. Appreciate your perspective. Food for thought.
I bought the 3hp Triton plunge router with its own built-in router lift feature. Added a faceplate to it and after removing the strong lifter spring, it’s permanently mounted in my shop built router table. Dust collection is great, all operations can be done from above but you need access to the on/off switch as safety before raising the bit into lock position (my table has a large sliding plexiglass access door to reach the router for speed adjustment and trigger lock).
I like the intro and outro on this with you coming in and out of the shop.
Keep up the great videos, looking forward to the next.
How well do white side bits do w/mdf?
I think you just made half of a buy once cry once video, looking forward to the other half. Thanks for your service
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Agree with about everything except Makita router. Yes the depth adjust isn't great. But the Makita plunge base is amazing. That's where this thing really shines. Also as far as the router itself goes. It is the arguably the best on on the market. It actually has more power than the corded model.
That Ridgid is kind of a really good unit for its price point and what it is intended for. Not exactly made to be a pro level tool yet it really does do a pretty good job. I rank it in there with the DeWalt 13" planer everyone seems to have. Again not a super high level machine but it does a good job for not a ton of money. I'd say the Ridgid is perfect for getting started.
Good analysis and recommendations. Thx.
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It is always better to be pissed off than pissed on! 😂😂😂 A little old-time humor.
Good video, very fair. I do have a question/comment about buying good Forstner and brad point bits. I've bought cheap(ish) ones in the past because I don't know how to get bits resharpened and I just replace them as they dull out. What do you do about resharpening your drill bits?