Non-DC Fan's First Time Watching Justice League: War [Reaction]
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- This movie was a fun time! It definitely wasn't groundbreaking like Flashpoint Paradox but seeing all the heroes fight together was very entertaining. I'm glad that I got to see Cyborg's origin story.. Kind of reminds me of the relationship I have with my own father. Enjoy the video!
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My question about Cyborg had nothing to do with his race.
I was genuinely curious to why he was on this team and personally think he works better with the Teen Titans (on that team he comes off as the strongest member).
In this movie he felt kind of thrown in (imo). I love his character and was happy to see his origin (which is very relatable to me) I just wasn’t a big fan of how he was placed in this movie specifically.
I hope you guys don’t think it was an attack on his character or me being racist
Cyborg was always the oldest of the Teen Titans, and in the comics he's been a member of the Justice League for a pretty long time at this point, plus Batman is sometimes Hackerman, but the League don't really have a tech-based hero that works with machines in it's starting lineup, while the Titans have relatively younger heroes in their lineup that can fill his prior role like Blue Beetle. And what's been Cyborg's origin story for a while now links him heavily to Apocalypse.
And for commenters; No, Flash doesn't count as a 'Tech Hero' just because he got his powers in a freak chemical accident, and the Green Lantern doesn't count either. The Ring itself may be tech-based, but Hal 'Run into a wall headfirst' Jordan is by no means a Tech Hero, his ring's scan feature is the closest we get before he makes a giant boxing glove to hit people with. Batman is the closest Hero to fit the bill, but not to the sci-fi level most tech-focused heroes are.
If you think Cyborg is the Strongest Teen Titan than I am excited for you to start watching Teen Titans content. 🤭
@@ZerkaiGG "He's been a member of the Justice League for a pretty long time at this point."
Knife to my heart, I'm getting old. 🔪❤️👴.
I always think about the New 52 as a mistake they just recently made, quickly realized it was a mistake and fixed.
If you keep going on this timeline you will know why he hasnt been or met the Titans yet. But be patience this JL War timeline is big and everything will go to place but youll see. The movie after JL War is Son Of Batman btw. Its a great timeline from start to finish 🥲
I agree tho Cyborg really don't fit with the team, & why was he in Doom Patrol? I like Cyborg but he needed to be a Titan first before a league member
Yes Thanos is modeled after Darkseid right down to the facial grooves. Even the creator of Thanos said so.
you mean he is a copycat from darkside.. just like most Marvel characters 😂
@@masterbeast-sz1yq you say that like DC has never copied Marvel 🤷🏼♂️
The next movie literally has Aquaman, a copy of Namor.
@@abisheknair2523DC has copied Marvel too but if you do your research you’ll find Marvel has copied DC far more. It like doesn’t even compare really lol. For every 1 instance you can name when DC did it, I can give you about 10 times Marvel did it 😂
@@YoungYahtz94 Yea, but why does that matter though? It's fiction writing and more so comics bro, that's par for the course. That's like getting upset when a new artists comes along to draw a character and adds their own interpretation. This stuff has stopped being "original" in some form or another before many fans were even born.
@@YoungYahtz94I mean yea, but both copy off each other. Both are copycats
Timeline 1----------------
Barry creates Timeline 2 but his memories are of Timeline 1
Timeline 2----------------
Barry tries to set things back to Timeline 1 but accidentally creates a new timeline.
Timeline 3 -----------------
When Barry created Timeline 3, he lost his memories from Timeline 1. All the movies in the DCAMU are a part of Barry's new memories from this new timeline. So He created a new past for himself and he does not realize it.
he does remember his memories in the future. Basically in timeline 1 before he time travled the Justice league was already established. Post Flashpoint he returns Justice League is also already established but he takes the place of his past version. Justice League War predates him giving the message to Batman on the new Timeline so from that point he’s a different Barry but after the message it’s the Barry from the first timeline.
@@Hiro-rx8yb Perfect explanation when you take both posts and add them together. That is how they did the New 52 Era comics too.
This is the New 52 Version of the Justice League. N52 Cyborg is Justice League in place of Aquaman.
If i remember properly, Aquaman was in this story in the comics instead of Shazam, Cyborg was actually the replacemant for MMH
So this is a new timeline. This movie tells the story of how the Justice League met each other. Also Barry "coming back" from Flashpoint happens later on in the timeline. What I mean by that is that years have gone by and they've all had lives and then suddenly memories of Barry's time in Flashpoint come back to him and that's when he delivers the letter to Batman, if that makes sense
Oh that makes way more sense then.
Yeah, the end of Flashpoint(letter delivery) happens after Batman: Hush
Yeah "He" confirms about Flashpoint in the last movie. Beside Batman there is one more character whose my fav... You will see who it is in the last movie. Actually even later on. I wont say who it is. You will figure it out eventually. He is HIM. Without HIM everything can be lost.
Oh so the end of flashpoint hasn’t happened yet as of justice league war?
“You can’t beat Batman in a fight, Green Lantern”, yes, yes he can. With ease.
Exactly how I feel about Batman. He’s able to hold his own and be a vital member of the JL, as a human with no super powers. The indomitable human spirit
Green Lantern being jumped will aways make me laugh.😂😂
Cyborg literally figures out Darkseids plans and alert everyone….plus is super OP…”why do we need Cyborg? “…..
I like Aquaman tho 😞
@@blaze3309 you will see him soon…the guy in the after credit scene that came from the ocean was his brother and villain Orm/Ocean Master
@@blaze3309 Cyborg is the reason they were able to send Darkseid back and bring back all the kidnapped people
Green Lantern telling the Flash about Batman when they first meet (in this movie) always makes me laugh. just his delivery of "yeah he's over there"
Shazam orginal name in comics was Captain Marvel and dates back to the 1940's and it was that Billy Batson the kid was given the powers in flashpoint they made it that it took all ththose foster kids that lived in the same house together to make him up for some reason most of these DC animated movies are taken right out of DC comic story lines with som differances
Captain Thunder is what the Flashpoint version of those kids are called. They we're in fact in the flashpoint comic.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 I said they were in the flashpoint comics
@@CrossComics I miss read it lol.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 np
Dick Grayson and Damian are the only two Robins in the DCAMU
And that right there is one of the biggest problems with it.
The New 52 said (and I'm simplifying here) "Basically, any Batman story *You personally Like* is still part of the continuity until we specifically decide to write a story to Retcon it. But somehow All of those stories happened in a 5-year window between Batman Year One, and the first Batman comic released in the New 52"
Which means Batman was speed running through swapping Robin's (His Son's) almost as fast as he swaps lovers.
@@spencernaugle thank god new52 is over, worst decision dc ever had
(2011) The New 52 wanted to Update the Justice League, and Adding Cyborg meant:
1. Adding a technology character for the modern world full of Smart Phones.
2. But they also wanted the Justice League to feel classic. So they brought back, Barry Allen the Original JLA Flash, and Hal Jordan the original JLA Green Lantern, meaning the league was back to all white people, They had to get some representation in there.
Martian Man Hunter comics never sell well, so it was easy to swap him out.
I miss Martian Manhunter being a founding member of the league.
I don't think you need to make it a "white people" thing. That mindset is toxic. John Stewart was in the animated series. They wanted to show the other Green Lantern here, the Green Lantern that's a hot head and arrogant. Most people don't like Hal and prefer John Stewart anyway. Poor Martian Manhunter he was amazing in the Justice League animated series.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
If I remember correctly, The New 52 had this "Mysterious monster story" that eventually turned out to be the Martian Man Hunter.
I believe it was an homage, in Martian Manhunter's original origin story, when he's accidentally teleported to Earth, he scares the scientist so bad the poor old man has a heart attack and dies. So they took that fear aspect, and stretched it out into an entire story. It kind of reminds me of how the Avengers originally teamed up to stop "Monster" Hulk, only for Hulk to join the team when they realize Loki is the real threat.
When Barry undid Flashpoint, it rest the continuity from scratch. This is something DC does often, they reboot their comics with Crisis Events stories to keep the characters fresh for the current audiences, even if it means altering origin stories a bit. More recently or so they’ve suggested the characters now remember all past continuities.
The hero from the other movie,the one who blew up,his name is Captain Atom,I think. I don't know much about him myself,but he apparently has the power of like,20 nukes,which is just insane.
My favorite thing about Captain Atom:
Even though he's a loyal U.S. Soldier and will do what the U.S. government tells him to do, If he's told to do something that puts him up against the Justice League, he tries to go about doing his job in the most upstanding moral way he possibly can. He will talk before throwing a punch. Leading to one of My favorite moments of the Justice League Unlimited cartoon.
Superman is entering a Government facility to free a prisoner, it is Captain Atom's responsibility to stop him so he tells Superman...
Captain Atom: "I'm afraid you misunderstand. I'm speaking as an officer of the United States Air Force. I'm currently assigned to General Eiling's special projects unit, and my orders are to prevent you from taking him out of this facility. So how's this gonna go down?"
*Superman and Him fight for a while*
Superman: "You fought the good fight now Stay down."
Captain Atom: "I can't do that Superman."
*Superman knocks Captain Atom out.*
Superman: "Don't you Touch him"
*Then takes him for medical attention*
He is basically a nuke living in a containment suit. He’s also the character that Dr Manhattan from Watchmen was based on
Note: Shazam possesses the wisdom of Solomon, the strength pf Hercules, the Stamina of Atlas, the power of Zeus, the courage of Achilles and the speed of Mercury; put it together and it spells SHAZAM!
the shazam with the group of kids is Capitan thunder a multiverse version of shazam
Don't worry too much about knowing all the characters, you'll get to know them along the way. I'm hyped for when you get up to the Constantine one.
This batman is voiced by Jason O'Mara so throughout this timeline of the animated movies he his batman and he does a damn good job with it.
I'm pretty sure flash and batman still knew each other at the end of flashpoint
Hal Jordan's story is quite extensive in the comics. He was initially introduced as a test pilot for Ferris Aircraft who stumbled upon a dying alien named Abin Sur, a member of the Green Lantern Corps. Sur's power ring chose Jordan as his successor, making him the first human to join the Corps. As Green Lantern, Hal Jordan has faced numerous adversaries, both terrestrial and extraterrestrial, including villains like Sinestro, Hector Hammond, and the various incarnations of the villainous Parallax entity. Over the years, he has been a central figure in many cosmic events and storylines, showcasing his strong sense of duty, leadership skills, and unwavering willpower. Hal's character has undergone significant development, including periods where he struggled with the power of his ring and his own moral dilemmas, making him one of the most complex and beloved characters in the DC universe.
This movie was based in the New 52 Universe that DC had rebooted too. It was an attempt to bring on New Readers by starting a new series of continuity....so in that Universe, Batman and Superman didn't know each other. Superman and Wonder Woman were attracted to one another, etc. They also were promoting Cyborg from the Teen Titans in the adult Justice League. The thinking on using Cyborg is his powerset, talking to any machine, makes more sense in the modern world with the Internet and WiFi, etc.
Something wild that has been bothering me since 2018.
Aquaman, was the laughing stock of the non-comicbook fan Pop Culture for decades, driving me nuts because they don't really know anything about him and how awesome he was. Until the 2018 film finally showed why he should be respected.
But now there is an unfortunate Opposite situation. Green Lantern was a respected superhero with a good reputation since his creation, Only to have it dragged through the mud by one film in 2011. Now he has been the laughingstock of Pop Culture for a decade, and it's driving me nuts because they don't really know anything about him and how awesome he is.
Something else important I think you should know.
Back before streaming services, movie Sequels often struggled to succeed financially. Because people couldn't easily watch the previous movie beforehand, they would forget important plot points, and be confused by the sequel. (It's not a coincidence that Netflix and the MCU both got popular around the same time)
So most movies were written and marketed as self-contained stories. If you look up DC animated movies, Unless they were a part of the very successful and beloved DCAU, the early movies were almost all self contained. Which means you can go back and watch them whenever you want because they are not connected to anything. Obviously that changed with the DCAMU, and then the Tomorrowverse.
Another thing worth knowing. DC animated Movie Film *Budgets* are an important factor in how some of these movies turned out. The old movies had Larger Budgets. The New movies are paid for with pocket lint.
Shazam, also known as Captain Marvel, is a beloved superhero in the DC Comics universe. At the core of this character is Billy Batson, a young orphan who encounters an ancient wizard named Shazam. Entrusting Billy with incredible powers, the wizard grants him the ability to transform into the superhero Shazam by uttering the wizard's name.
When Billy becomes Shazam, he undergoes a magical transformation, becoming an adult with immense powers. These powers are drawn from various mythological figures, each representing a different aspect: the wisdom of Solomon, the strength of Hercules, the stamina of Atlas, the power of Zeus, the courage of Achilles, and the speed of Mercury.
What makes Shazam unique is the contrast between his childlike innocence and the immense responsibility he carries as a superhero. Billy Batson's journey is often about navigating the challenges of growing up while also facing the pressures and dangers of being a superhero.
The DCMAU is based on the New 52 comic book stories. Which is why many of the changes you didn't know of are because of this new comic continuity. Basically to simplify it, Barry changed the timeline and he forgot it happened. Just think of it that way, beucase you'll never get a concrete and simple explanation in the movies. Starting now everything that happens will be important. Every death is going to stick in this movie series. Heroes and villains that die in these movies don't expect theme to come back.
And if you want a good origin story of Shazam then you should watch the live action movie. The animated series doesn't really cover it well, so the live action is the place to go for his origins.
If he want's the best concrete origin for shazam either the first live action movie or the animated dc showcase.
If you want to learn more about Green Lantern, check out Green Lantern: First Flight, it’s not canon to these films but still a good story.
It's the best green lantern material of all time besides the comics
@@jhngrg8132There’s also the CGI Green Lantern animated series.
I like this movie, but hate the Wonder Women depiction. Diana is a kind, gentle person to those around her and only fights to save someone else. She even worked at a Taco Bell because she didn't view the work as beneath her and she enjoyed the thought of feeding her community. This version is so off putting.
Its new 52 wonder woman the other movies make her seem more like herself
It's really only this film where she's like this the other she's in she's alright.
@@ShirouBrandopretty much
Nah this version makes way more sense for an Amazonian warrior princess just taught to fight for glory her whole life. Not like they made her a robot, she still has her kind moments. She just doesnt fit in with humanity quite yet. Her working at Taco Bell sounds way more off-putting
On god, the new 52 early justice league books completely fumbled Diana's personality. Thank goodness her animated movie nailed what she's like
21:16, I don't really know to be honest, I only know that Cyborg boomed in popularity in the early to mid 2000's thanks to the Teen Titans show and the fact that he had a few supporting roles in a few Justice League movies and comics.
You remember how the "time boom" Flash caused in Flashpoint changed the events of the past? Him fixing the timeline caused something similar. Things are close to how they were before, but not the same. We're seeing the past of the world he gave Batman the letter to, that scene doesn't happen till right before the final movie in this timeline.
Cyborg was reimagined as a Justice League Member starting with the New 52 comic reboot, which this movie series is based on, giving us the Mother-Box origin as a way to directly tie him to Darkside.
Shazam in Flashpoint is different from usual, normally Billy Batson is the main/only kid that can turn into Shazam, each letter of his name representing a god that lends him their power, but he CAN share his powers with others, which he tends to do with his siblings. (If you want a good Shazam Origin movie, the live action fil is pretty good.) In Flashpoint, this was changed so that each of the 6 siblings are tied to a single letter/god, and all merge into one.
Imma be real, you completely list me with the timeline theory, i had no idea what i listening to. XD But Aquaman and the Atlantis situation is unrelated to what happened in Flashpoint, they'll be explained in the next JL movie, Throne of Atlantis.
Omg the Batman glazing here is too much, whenever Batman breathes he’ll praise him.
Dude even said GL couldn’t beat Batman not knowing Green Lantern fights superman level characters on a regular basis
Characters in Terms of power levels:
Superman
Shazam
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green lantern
Cyborg
Batman
You can switch Wonder Woman and Shazam
Yeah one of my favorite things about this movie is the relationship between Bruce and Hal. They're so entertaining to watch.
The Flashpoint movie was a transitional movie just like its comic book counterpart This movie is a an arc starter, all the movie between this one and Jl Dark: Apokolips war, will share continuity except Batman vs The Ninja Turtles this cooks well enough all on its own
yeah, for simplicity's sake, barry rebooted the universe at the end of the last movie, the scene of him delivering the letter to batman is nice, but it kinda doesnt really make sense, you dont really have to worry about it though, they dont bring up timeline stuff again for a while
well, you see cyborg does become a member of the Teen Titans for a while but as he grew up, he wanted to be part of the Justice League which he doses
These movies are loosely based on the New 52 comics. So basically after Flashpoint, the timeline changed again (that's why Flash's suit looked different at the end when he gave Bruce the letter) and the movies after are the New 52 timeline. One thing this movie changed was they swapped Aquaman with Shazam (in the comics they have a separate Shazam comic that explains his backstory). It also made more sense cos they used Aquamans trident and wonder woman's sword to stab Darkseids eyes instead of a random crowbar. As for Cyborg, New 52 was when he became a Justice League member because, his origin involves the motherboxes and Darkseid, etc. Cyborg actually replaced Martian Manhunter cos, that dude was put on another team in New 52. John Stewart is cool but, sadly they didn't have him in this universe much.
Overall, the comics were better and did a lot more but, the movies are fun. I'd actually recommend reading New 52 on an app or something. It's a lot but, at least it's sort of condensed to its own section. New 52 Aquaman and Wonder Woman were such good comics.
In this universe to a lot of people Batman is still kinda unbelievable despite other heroes existing
Also I love your rant about Batman, he’s just a dope character. WB understands the money the name Batman brings. Batman has a Hollywood star which means Warner Brothers has a spreadsheet somewhere where 50k a year is set aside to maintain his square. That’s who Batman is and the more you watch the more this comment will really settle in a lot of people’s minds.
Just so you know bro Darkseid came before Thanos, in fact Thanos’ creator has straight up admitted he was modeled after Darkseid. To take it a step further in most cases when you see a DC/Marvel character or idea that seems similar…DC DID IT FIRST (not hate, just facts!)
You gotta watch Green Lantern First Flight!
Your questions about Cyborg being on the Justice League are exactly what everyone was saying in 2011 lol. Most people prefer him on the Teen Titans
He works so well with them. I love the character so I hope no one saw it as an attack on him. I just really think he fit well with the Teen Titans.
@@blaze3309 03:47, that's the thing, Barry attempted to fix his mistakes from Flashpoint but it's like fixing a broken cup that shattered into a million pieces with super glue, even if you get most/ all of the pieces, even if you're skilled with the glue, even if it's pieced all together that doesn't matter because if you pay close attention you'll notice the cracks so it can never be exactly what it was from before.
This was a good introduction to how the Justice League is as a team, and how they got to be like that. Another good movie is Justice League: Doom. I believe it falls in a separate timeline, but it really shows that Batman has a plan for everything!
To answer your question in a nutshell, the Justice League literally is cannot defeat Darkseid in this movie without Cyborg..... Also your question about why he's on the team instead of John Stewart is oddly racist because you're actually choosing one black hero over the other. It would make more sense to question why Hal Jordan is on the team instead of John Stewart since they're both Green Lanterns or why Cyborg is on the team instead of Martian Manhunter. Otherwise, why can't two black heroes be on the same team.
Exactly
It was just something I was thinking about.
I’ve always been more interested in John Stewart and wanted to see him in more movies to learn about him.
It’s more about what makes sense superpower wise to me than anything.
Didn’t have anything to do with race.
Although I didn’t want to just erase the black representation completely from the movie because that wouldn’t be right.
@@blaze3309 I didn't mean to imply it was intentional, but I couldn't ignore the the way it was said because of who was talked about. I get that it had more to do with your familiarity with Cyborg being a titan. DC had actually been trying to make Cyborg a member of the league since the 80's when he first became popular. He was on the 80's super friends show called The Super Powers Team where he and firestorm were the newest members of the league at a time when he was strictly a titan in the comics so that's been a thing they've been trying to normalize since forever
@@popeye697 ohhhh I understand. I appreciate you friend. Sorry if it came off that way when I was talking about it.
Flash's costume changed at the end of flashpoint. It has lightning bolts on it now. Implying everything is still a little off.
Cyborg was made with a kryptonian mother box and a mother box alone is very powerful ability include most like anything u can think of now add a kryptonian mother box to the mix cyborg is really powerful not only can he hack into anything on earth but also alien tech since he’s basically an alien when he was transformed with the box
Basically he’s in the movie bc he’s pretty damn powerful and a upper hand in any situation
Also without cyborg they wouldn’t have know about dark sides plan bc he hacked into darksides shit 😂 OG
You needed to see the end of Justice League War as in the credits cuz it sets up the next Justice League movie. Also this is the origin of the Justice League in The New 52. In the graphic novel Shazam is not their Aquaman is.
I just subscribed. I love this movie. One movie I suggest you watch is Superman VS The Elite, it's my favorite Superman movie.
That one and all star are top tier ⭐️
I know you have a lot of questions now...
Just keep watching the movies in order... You'll figure it out... All your questions will be answered
Don’t forget to watch Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths; Justice League: Doom; Batman: Year One; and The Dark Knight Returns. They’re fantastic.
No superman vs the Elite or All Star superman?
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265those as well. Thanks for a reminder.
@@parsman9914 Your welcome there good films.
Yes! Im glad your continuing the DCAMU movies lets go
You should watch the first two episodes of Young Justice. It’s about the justice league sidekicks instead of just Batman, Superman and wonder, woman and the rest
I remembered this movie when the water in California caught fire that one time 2 years ago
3:30 no Barry did put things back to normal this film is the origin of how the league first met and we’re formed
Cyborg has been part of Justice League since late 70 and early 80. Plus he becomes integral the technology and cyberspace division. He interface with precision
Cyborg didn't even appear until like 1982 or 1983 as part of the New Teen Titans. He became a Justice League member in the New 52 continuity which was 2011 or so IIRC on the year.
@@dustynhawkeye6838 he was part of a Weekend cartoon series of the Justice League TV series. That’s what I drawing my information l. I just searched its called The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians. But it had the major JL players I am certain it counts
@@9791mij Ah yes. That was a Super Friends cartoon, which while based on the Justice League...never actually was the Justice League. The whole story behind that is in the 80's..Kenner Toys and DC came up with a toy line called Super Powers. So DC decided to do some cross promotion...they added the newest figures (I believe Cyborg was v3) to their comics and cartoons. Cyborg was featured in The New Teen Titans which was DC Comics top selling title at the time. They had limited series comics...I know v1 was a 5 issue mini series, I don't recall how many were in v2 and v3. They were OUTSIDE the regular DC Comics continuity. Even in those comics, which were made to introduce new fans of the toys to the characters, they pointed fans to the regular comics that the toys were featured in...in Cyborg's case, The New Teen Titans. The cartoon was an expansion of The Super Friends series which DID start in the 70's. The Super Friends...not the Justice League. The Super Friends used a lot of the Justice League characters in their show, but also had some that never appeared in the comics. So for simplicity sake a lot of places link The Super Friends cartoons to the Justice League. As an example...the Super Powers toyline, and comic mini series, also included Dr. Fate. He was a founding member of the Justice SOCIETY from the 1940's. He resided on Earth-2, while the later Justice League was on Earth-1...until the original Crisis on Infinite Earths event merged all the multi-verse Earths into a single Earth. So...in reality...Cyborg first joined the Justice League in the New 52 era, which these movies are based on, which was in 2011 or 2012. Confusing I know...and even the DC main website shows DC Super Powers mini series as Justice League related...as does the Wikipedia page. Technically true over all, but context isn't given on ALL aspects of the cartoon, toys, or comics. Wow...sorry for the long windedness. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or me right, just trying to add a little context you may not know of.
I can appreciate there are Great parts of each movie in the DCAMU, But there are certain things I just cannot get past.
In this movie specifically:
1. Superman's cocky attitude.
2. Hal Jordan being Dumb.
3. Cyborg's New Origin Story. (I prefer the version of his origin where his mother dies in the same explosion that turns him into a Cyborg).
4. Using Darkseid this early in Justice League history making him seem like a weak threat.
5. And the BIGGEST Problem, Superman and Wonder Woman being a couple is Awful.
The DCAMU is based off the new 52 so yeah a lot of the complaints be like that.
I personally prefer the "Cyborg is made by a mother/father box. It gives him more use and access to New Gods technology and makes him cooler. Also, I like, for this universe, Darkseid was the first villain because the rest of the series they planted hints at his return and it payed off extremely well
@@LegoMonster21774 I would actually prefer if they merged the two origins.
Cyborg causing the explosion with a Motherbox/Fatherbox that kills his mother would make him feel awful and put even more strain on a relationship with a father who he already had a strained relationship with. Doubling His father being a guilt-tripping bastard, "I saved your Life" & "I'm the only family you have left since your mother/ my wife died".
(insert painful wordplay about Motherbox taking away his mother, or it took a Fatherbox for his Father to care about him)
I also I like the idea of him being on both Teams, Justice League and the Teen Titans.
His awful father making him desperate for a healthier family, that he finds in the Teen Titans. But as the oldest member of the Teen Titans he gets to represent them on the Justice League.
Most of these are problems that came from the comics they are based on
Just to answer a couple questions you asked:
1: Cyborg is in the Justice League because of the New 52. In 2011, DC Comics rebooted their comic continuity with Flashpoint leading to the New 52. The reboot of the Justice League comics started with showing the new origin of the Justice League in the New 52 and that was adapted into this movie. Cyborg was a Justice League founder in that story, so he's also a founder here. (although, Aquaman was also a founder of the League in that story but this movie replaced it with Captain Marvel/Shazam). As for why the New 52 made Cyborg a founding member of the League, I'm not entirely sure, I assume it was to add more diversity into the League since the original Justice League founders were mainly white people with the exception of Martian Manhunter who would disguise himself as white. Don't know why they didn't just switch Hal out for John Stewart in that case but whatever. I definitely prefer him to start as a Teen Titans member and then becoming a League member later with some of his fellow Titans members, the New 52 completely ruined the Teen Titans and it took them a LONG time to recover.
2: After Flashpoint, Barry tried to put the timeline back to normal but it didn't quite work like that and the timeline was altered again, this time not being as horrible as the Flashpoint timeline, but still vastly different and Barry's memories adjusted to the new timeline. It's unclear when this film takes place in regards to the last scene of the Flashpoint film, but I would assume this is before Barry gives Bruce the note meaning before OG Timeline Barry merges with current timeline Barry. So, this Barry is technically not the Barry from the Flashpoint movie but this is the universe that was created by the events of Flashpoint and Barry will eventually remember the events of Flashpoint. At least, that's what I'm assuming happened, but we do know that this Barry at some point gets the memories of Flashpoint Barry.
3: The ending scene is a set up for the events of Justice League: The Throne of Atlantis with nothing to do with the Flashpoint timeline, I have no idea why that scene was framed like we saw the king die at some point in one of the prior films, but we didn't.
4: The DCAMU has a sorta weird reputation. Some people absolutely love it, some view it as more of a mixed bag, some absolutely despise it. The critic rating for the franchise overall averages at like a 7/10, so overall it's still considered good. I recommend just forming your own opinion, but I'll give a bit of an explanation for why some people don't like this film in particular. One of people's many problems with this universe in general is the major focus on Batman. There are 4 Batman films in this universe which doesn't sound like too much but most other heroes or teams get only 1 film for themselves besides the Justice League obviously. The only ones with more than 1 film are the Teen Titans and Superman, both of which only having 2. People's problem with this film in particular comes from just how basic it is, Darkseid invades and a bunch of heroes stop them, basically just a giant action scene that stretches across the entire film with a lack of any real character development which didn't give some people much hope in the future of this universe. Also, people HATED the New 52 and this film directly adapted a New 52 storyline which left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of comic fans and that bitterness kinda spread throughout the entire DCAMU for some fans. Most of the films aren't actually adapting new 52 comics, in fact majority of the universe is either adapting Pre-New 52 stuff or making completely original stories, but this film certainly put the idea in the minds of a lot of comic fans that these films just wouldn't be something they'd be into.
5: Fun fact, the Cyborg origin was a little different prior to the New 52, aside from him not originally being a founding member of the Justice League, he also wasn't originally rebuilt with the Mother Box, it was just some Bio-Prosthetics. This change has sense been in every version of his origin in every adaptation including the DCEU and Young Justice and I really do like the change as it gives Cyborg even cooler powers.
6: The Shazam Kids thing was just in this Flashpoint timeline, in this timeline and in mainline comics, Billy Batson is the only one that turns into Captain Marvel/Shazam. The other kids can also turn into their own versions of Shazam like Mary Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr, Freddy Marvel, etc. Also, if you're curious why I'm saying Captain Marvel/Shazam, it's because Billy's superhero name originally was Captain Marvel but after a long series of legal issues that I won't go into the title of the comic had to be changed to Shazam and eventually DC just decided to name the hero Shazam as well in the New 52.
7: As for Shazam's origin since I'm pretty sure that isn't explained in any of the films, I'll be brief and I'll be giving the New 52 origin since this film was based on the New 52 Justice League story, so it's probably taking from that origin. Billy is a moody and troubled 15 year old foster child in Philadelphia who went through several foster homes. Dr. Sivana unleashes Black Adam from his tomb and the Wizard of the Rock of Eternity starts looking for candidates to become a champion to fight against Black Adam. He summons Billy who is considered and unsuitable candidate due to him being moody and troubled but Billy is able to convince him that he wouldn't find any perfectly good people. The Wizard gets desperate and sees the embers of good in Billy and just gives him the powers, allowing him to say the word Shazam to turn into the Champion of Shazam.
You should watch Superman/Shazam, the Return of Black Adam, you’ll learn more about Billy
Such a great movie series love them all can't wait for you to enjoy the rest of the movies just 25 more
Darkseid is one of the most powerful and malevolent villains in the DC Comics universe. He is the tyrannical ruler of the planet Apokolips and a god-like figure, obsessed with conquering the universe and eliminating free will. His ultimate goal is to find and harness the Anti-Life Equation, which would grant him total control over all sentient beings. Darkseid possesses immense strength, near-invulnerability, and a range of formidable powers, including the Omega Beams, which can disintegrate or teleport targets. He is a central antagonist in the DC Comics universe, often clashing with Superman and the Justice League.
Love how you're seeing the DCAU but if you want to start a series that is a side timeline i suggest you Young justice. Oh and you need to watch supersons
Just an fyi the Green Lantern disrespect in this movie series is insane, don’t expect him to have great moments
Cyborg is definitely fit for the Justice League like most of the Titans are and he's way more powerful than you give credit for (Think about it, all the technology in the universe, all weapons and systems are under his command and he can upgrade and fix anything. In this very movie and in the Snyder Cut, they only win thanks to him. Like his father says in the former "in a world of ones and zeroes, you're the absolute master". John Sterwart and Martian Manhunter are great but they can for sure wait for their time, cuz Cyborg more than deserves his spot as a founding member)
Anyway, just reminding you to check out the Snyderverse eventually! (Man of Steel, Batman Vs Superman Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and Zack Snyder's Justice League)
Darkside and his world technically exist on a higher scale of the multiverse so the Guardians of the Universe knowledge here might be limited thanks to that.
Yes Darkside came first Thanos came after and by there standards they are pretty mismatched. Thanos is one of the strongest in the universe easily planet buster but still limited and with the infinity gauntlet and the stones above the abstract cosmic entities ( sentient manifestation of fundamental forces of the universe ) to where he gains authority over all aspects of the universe the stones hail from. However Darkside comes from outside any one universe and by nature the power he wields is grater than the gauntlet not bound to one universe since it comes from a higher plane the Omega Effect a multiversal force of power and entropy capable of doing anything the gauntlet does manipulating time space energy matter minds souls erasing from existence ect. that transforms the one who holds it in to a manifestation of evil and tyranny.
Watching you’re 🔥 reaction then I know you’ll love young justice
Please continue this series. It's the best DC Universe ever and all their movies range from good to great. And the payoff is amazing as well
I hate when people gatekeep characters, especially when its fantasy driven story or with characters that's around 40-80 years old. Telling the same story gets kinda boring. People whine about the same old same then cry about "this doesn't match the character i know or grew up with" when they try something different. Batman carried a gun is his beginning and killed,wonder woman was more combative at first,superman couldn't fly but leap.when they tried to tell stories about those beginnings people who didnt grow up with those traits for these characters hated it. Maybe expand your mind and instead of saying that a hero or villian doesn't act that way because i seen him at different in my 20 -30 years of comic book reading Maybe remember those characters are especially most dc characters are around since the 1930's -40's and just go with it. If people can except kingpin and punisher as daredevil characters when they were Spiderman villains 15 years before they even made it to daredevil then you can except cyborg as a justice league person
Loved the Super 7
Blaze it's the original timeline where the justice league was fully created or should I say the starting point of justice league
Oh.. You didnt see the stinger?
Batman is the weakest on the teem and cyborg is powerful.
Bro where is the dark knight rises 💀
Watch The Dark Knight Rises
I wish they kept his VA for Green Lantern. Don't get me wrong, I love Nathan Fillion's performances in the future, but I loved how douchey this guy sounded.
Who voiced him in this film?
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265Nathan Fillion
A video on the crime syndicate of Amerika could a interesting watch
The characterization of Wonder Woman and Superman in this is cringe. At the time DC thought making everyone edgy was cool.
Shazam is a pretty fun character!
When or if you watch the Justice League animated series, you will see that despite Batman being a human with no powers, he has to save the Justice Leagues ass many times. They are super powered beings and they can't solve many problems, they have to call Batman in to figure everything out. At one point they want him to join the Justice League and he's like nah I work alone, but when you need me...and you WILL need me, I'll be there. lol. Batman becomes a part timer of the league cause Gotham is his priority despite saving the PLANET numerous times.
There are a lot of animated movies that you should watch but unfortunately this isn't one of them. This is where the animated movies started to adapt the comics they needed to sell at the time which was the promotion of their rebranding with their New 52 line. The New 52 is a failed rebranding of DC comics and every movie following this one are all based around New 52 comics. The quality of the movies dips considerably. I will list the movies that you absolutely must watch.
Batman: Year One
Batman: Gotham Knight (anime)
Batman: Hush Part 1 & 2
The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 & 2 (must watch)
Superman: Doomsday
All*Star Superman (must watch)
Superman Vs The Elite (must watch)
Superman: Red Son
Superman/ Batman: Public Enemies
Superman/ Batman: Apocalypse
Justice League: New Frontier
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths
Justice League: Doom
You've already watched Flashpoint Paradox and Red Hood and that would also be in that list. But the rest are garbage. Justice League War is when it all started going down hill. I'm pretty sure Bruce Timm is no longer on these movies after the New 52 stuff. Which is important since he's been in DC animation since Batman: The Animated Series.
No Death of superman? That movie was amazing and definitely overall better than superman doomsday. even if it takes place in this universe.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 It's the same thing. Just expands on it. I would say don't watch either. Doomsday is just kinda mandatory watching but I would say skip it.
I just can't see how much he talks down the Batman against the Superman... I understand Batman doesn't have the superstrength x-ray vision heat vision cold breath etc etc but he has the utility belt and he is the best tactical the best detective also has the most self realisation and he took down superman, darkside, justice league alone and he also took down the other super villain when other super heros can't when justice league can't
HE IS THE JUSTICE LEAGUE and he doesn't need justice league if he has his bat-family
The batman plot armor pack hits but he ain't really gonna do shit when darkseid's decides to square up instead of fooling around with him.
You know Blaze, the question I have for you is, with how much you seem to be enjoying all these and the Batman ones, at what point does it change from "Non-Batman Fan" and "Non-DC Fan" to "New Batman Fan" and "New DC Fan"? Haha.
“New Batman Fan” started with the title of the Batman Animated episode I reacted to! 😂
“New DC Fan” coming soon 😇
@@blaze3309 Haha, right you are. Really, I'm just glad you've been having a good time with all of these.
This film, is atrocious. This was during a time when DC animation had massive budget cuts and were basing the stories on some of the most controversial modern stories from the comics and overall this entire universe is rendered completely uninteresting as time has passed.
I wouldn’t call it atrocious… just aggressively mid. Batman and Constantine are the only good things about this universe and even then their stuff is pretty hit or miss.
The real question is why isn't martian manhunter here. Cyborg works better with the titans than the league.
There’s a crossover movie with Batman and Ninja Turtles have you seen that one yet?
This universe got pretty much 97% of all the characters it utilised wrong. The only greatly adapted character was John Constantine.
You aren't wrong. So many of the Justice league members got wasted.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265wdym
You have to react to the Dc showcase called Superman/Shazam!: The Return of Black Adam. Shazam is the name of the Wizard that gave Billy his powers. His Hero name used to be captain Marvel he was the og captain marvel back in the 1940's but for Legally reasons they couldn't use the name anymore because Of Marvel being pissy.
hello its me, background knowledge for the flash and how much of a powerful character he is There's two versions barry and wally west wally is faster than barry wally west he once saved 500 thousand people by carrying them 35 miles away in 0.0001 microseconds here's the speed if your interested 1.26 quadrillion mph or 2.027781 quadrillion kmh so yhhh that boy fast oh and he ran 13 trillion times faster than the speed of light
Darkseid is badass villain >:3
when you watch the live action justice league in the future make sure it’s Zack Snyder Version bc the original just isn’t it lmao
The teen titans was not created on that timeline yet but when you will watch justice league vs teen titans then they will introduce cyborg in the teen titens
Love the Batman movies in this universe. It's different but it's still Batman. And Damien's growth throughout this series is so fun and heartwarming. Everything else in the universe is hit or miss for me, but Robin was one of the reasons I stuck it out.
i gotta say its a great movie series but they adapt the characters badly for some modernization or whatever but great reaction(people recommend these movies cuz the batman movies and that one superman movie they did)
the next movie that goes in order im pretty sure is Justice League: Throne of Atlantis
Imma list some dc movies that alot of people would recommend(cuz im bored ;p)
MUST WATCH
Batman Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and 2(you will watch these one day its arguably the best action animated movies ever in the west)
For some Shazam
Superman and Shazam vs Black Adam(it goes over his origin story)
For some Superman and Batman
Superman Batman public enemies(not the greatest but its fun and cool and stuff)
Superman Batman Apocalypse(its the sequl to superman batman public enemies and its pretty good)
Superman(none of these are that game changing with superman vs brainiac being the worst for sure out of these but they are all fun and tell a different story of superman that you wont see anywhere else)
Superman vs The Elite
All-star Superman
Superman vs Brainiac
Justice League
Justice League Doom(solid movie)
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths(i love you owl man❤)
I forgot the wonder woman movies ;p
It's funny how Hal says to Batman, you're the only one of us without powers....except Green Lantern HAS NO POWERS, his powers come from the ring, anyone who wears it can do the same thing. Batman could wear the ring, hell Batman has worn the Lantern rings before, briefly and dear GOD it makes Batman unstoppable lol. Hal Jordan is just a human like Bruce.
Chill on 🐐. Greatest Lantern their ever was is his title for a reason. Hal can will a ring into existence he's not quite ordinary
@@IndraTyde Yeah no.
You're ignorant. It's the hero not the ring. In comics (geoff johns run) Hal gave his ring to Bruce for a moment and the ring rejected him because Bruce wouldn't let go of his greatest fear, loosing his parents and his loved ones, because that fear motivates him to become batman. And as the guy above said, he is considered the greatest green lantern of all time by every member of the green lantern Corp for a reason.
@@jhngrg8132 I was speaking on the other lantern rings Batman has worn. He has won the Green, Black, Yellow and White lantern ring before.
@@ItApproaches so what? Hal has worn a green, a blue, a red, an orange, a white and a black ring before. Where's your argument? I will say this again. You're ignorant. It takes a lot of practice to master the ring and the user must have strong will power and be concentrated. Otherwise the constructs are weak. Hal Jordan was also the only green lantern in history that overcame the yellow impurity (if you exclude sinestro who made parallax his pet).
Yeah, your chat fucking lied to you. THIS was the first movie in this story of animated movies. iirc Throne of Atlantis is next.
So this is a new timeline. This movie tells the story of how the Justice League met each other. Also Barry "coming back" from Flashpoint happens later on in the timeline. What I mean by that is that years have gone by and they've all had lives and then suddenly memories of Barry's time in Flashpoint come back to him and that's when he delivers the letter to Batman, if that makes sense. So yeah the chat told the truth.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 the only relation Flashpoint has with this was being a DC property. When War was announced it was to launch a new era in animation. Hence all the repeat castings after this, hence the style and look.
Bro getting mad because they take Wikipedia entries at face value without understanding context. Flashpoint is.. just a movie that coincidentally came out at the beginning of the N52 era. War was the actual relaunch. Look how confused this fool was. He couldn’t even comprehend Cyborg in the lineup. That’s on YALL for introducing a newbie going from Batman into allat. God forbid yall mention Year One. Nope, just google “best DC animated movie” here you go 😂😂😂
I'd love for to to react to my favorite piece of DC content The Flash CW tv show
Are you going to play injustice?
em no its wrong
darkside come before thanos
and yes his stronger
this universe is based on new 52 which means is not the best to get to know character just for you to know, the characters are mor pessimistic, wonder woman is a warrior instead of a peace keeper, cyborg is in justice league instead of the teen titans is a mess
So much so they had to have an entire comic book event explaining why this timeline shouldn't exist.
@@spencernauglelmfao DC being DC it seems.
Yassss! This has to be one of my favs from the DCAU, a few other good ones are Justice League: Dark, Wonder Woman, the Suicide Squad movies and a few others
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Before watching live action Justice league ... Watch previous 2 movies.... Man of steel and Batman vs superman movie... Then justice league snyder cut 2021 one.... Not josstice league 2017 u will die because cringe 😂
Incase you wanna know what we gone through after watch justice league 2017, (which WB destroyed with cutting and reshooting scene after Zack Snyder had to leave during finishing part of the movie... Because of his daughter's death.)
WB has destroy DC live universe after kicking Zack Snyder out...
Ben Affleck is most arkham version of Batman.. Comic accurate one
Barry's creation of Flashpoint led to a bad consequence. Just wait till you see the last movie of this universe!