I think there is the reason why migthy and ray is not in mordern migthy and ray are in their own adventure as what migthy describe as an adveture type of person while ray follow migthy just like sonic and tails and sega don't add ray cause we got tails and they don't add migthy because we got kunckles i think that is also the reason why he not in chaotix is because migthy were on adventure with ray on their own and i think that poster was from chaotix but yeah is unexplain
Iizuka separating Classic and Modern Sonic is one the most baffling decisions I've seen. I don't know why he is so against using stuff from classic games like characters, Anyone being able to turn super, and Hyper Sonic.
It's stuff like this is why Sonic's universe feels so small and empty. The main characters are everything and the world around them can't contain anything of value. It's just Sonic, Tails and Eggman in an empty cardboard world, Green hill Zone floating in an empty void.
@@yungmuney5903 I agree! So much…recently i been rediscovering my love for Sonic and I’m noticing that to and it’s so played out! They should make mighty and Ray modern and also make sticks the badger a main character moving forward…she to, will add more color and diversity to the Sonic world
I guess one thing you didn't really mention was that Mighty in the Fleetway Comics is a very different character from Mighty in Archie, Mighty in Archie while he has anger issues has them more under control and is more soft spoken and peaceful, in Fleetway, he is just so angry it is funny sometimes. I guess if I had to compare Archie Mighty is more like the Iron Giant whereas Fleetway Mighty is more like Rapheal from TMNT.
Great video man! It's awesome learning about these characters that I know little to nothing about, l like Ray's design, neat character! Hopefully they both make a comeback
Idk if it's just me but I love/prefer Amy's original design but her character growth from adventure 1&2...ugh sonic team really bent over the sonic character's and bucked them with a cactus
Originally, "Chaotix" was supposed to be called "Sonic Stadium;" Mighty was supposed to be Sonic, and Tails would also have been playable. What's left of Tails can be found and accessed through debug mode, but isn't usuable...
Tails (multiple stars in Chaotix) is able to be used in earlier prototypes but he is very buggy. It has behaviour extremely similar if not identical to Tails
6:52 It's bullshit like this is why Sonic's universe feels so small and empty. The main characters are everything and the world around them can't contain anything of value. It's just Sonic, Tails and Eggman in an empty cardboard world, Green hill Zone floating in an empty void.
No, it's empty and small-minded writing like this 9:18, that makes the Archie universe feel so bullshit. It's a constant firehose of irrelevant fantasy nonsense. And anything remotely inspired by RESPECT to the originals is lowest common denominator wiki quotes, like the fact Might and Ray are written as friends is entirely because of which games they were together in. That is, the one game. And so they were "expanded" as nothing but knockoff Tails and combined Sonic+Knuckles, just so the archie staff can tell their fanfics about Mercia or some shit to a locked-in audience who thought they were reading Sonic comics. And now it's a matter of religious neuro-variability to keep with that "canon" of their personalities, no wonder Sega wants nothing to do with them. YOU finish the epic story of Mercia and Madeline and Fiona the Fucking fox, if you want to. And I don't want high heavens, Sonic Heroes level of writing is just fine. And that's a downgrade from Adventure, the bottom line is there's plenty to expand upon. Flicky got a lot of development and she(? he? one of them? I think she was a mother in her own game) is one of the early animals that are all just "small forest creatures", unlike now sonic's gang are these "special" Main Character animals. Now to bring back any character they have to be retrofitted to this fan canon expectation, like Mighty and Ray now have to move as a set for some damn reason.
Know I honestly think that mighty and ray feel like spin off characters of knuckles and tails because they similar ability's such as ray being to glide and tails being to fly, but their kinda the same thing and might and knuckles being both hard hitters.
You know, I'm actually starting to believe that the Classic games and the Dreamcast/Modern games are two different universes, with each of them being different from the other. Mighty, Ray, Fang/Nack, Bean and Bark are present in the Classic universe, but aren't in the Modern universe. (Unless you count cameos) They're also present in the comic universes, like Archie and Fleetway. (Rephrased)
Iizuka separating modern and classic makes no sense especially when adventure and generations mentions the classic games as taking place in the past. I don’t see them as separate since it just fits better and makes the sonic universe larger when they are together and I’m sure some others at sega view it this way too.
There no such thing called the "classic dimension" izuka sonic and classic sonic are the same to us. Might and Ray desvers better along with team hooligan,honey,classic chatiox's, heavy and bomb. But anyway great video dude keep up the great work!
I’m not a fan of them splitting classic and modern dimensions either but it looks like Iizuka is adamant on keeping it that way :/ Thanks for watching!! I got more “classic” characters lined up 🙂
11:15 Not sure if this is true or not, but I saw someone point out in a comment, that in the Sonic vs Mega Man crossover, when Sonic traveled back in time, and erased his life, Baron never became the leader of wherever Matilda stays, so Mighty never found his sister. Although, because of the pre-genesis wave, it probably just erased her and Baron from existence all together.
YOOOO THE ARCADE ODYSSEY SHOUTOUT I was just reminiscing about playing Segasonic at that spot as you were talking about it, and then you go and bring it up yourself, crazy
5:23 ''Whose (sonic and mighty) appearance and behaviour are identical.'' Also sonic and mighty: *LOOKS NOTHING ALIKE DUE TO DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND SPECIES*
@@TheMentok reworked or not. Its still a different character design with a different species. You don't see sega calling mighty ''Reworked Sonic'' now do you?
@@TheMentok same with Ray, that’s why it was hard for me to like them both growing up; because all I saw was Sonic in a different animals clothing. Their gameplay in mania made me start to like them though
A game where egg man gets captured and metal sonic ask these two for help would be so cool And will make sense for them to be in a team (especially since they hey strength flight but no speed)
I’m not a toll hater on mighty and raid the flank screw but because kinda look like rip off versions of tails and knuckles call is like if they were made from a different country that that Sega refuse to release their game over there and saw that the amplifies again I’m not a solar heater on Ray and mighty the armadillo
It would make more sense if Sonic was caught because in trying to pull the other two to safety he was slowed enough because he couldn't support two others.
i played Sega sonic the hedgehog in 2021, theres some arcade called “Galloping Ghosts” that I went to and got to play it. It was around September in the US
9:52 Uh. No. She wouldn't. An android in her image (yeah, that was quiet the retcon) appeared first to charm Tails, but her programming crashed she was about to drown Tails due to the contradiction in her programming. The proper Fiona Fox was NEVER attracted to Tails, and in fact mocked him over his crush on her. And failing to be rescued when Mighty, Sonic, and Ray escaped, left her with BAAAAAAAD trust issues, determined to rely on only herself. In a truly crazy twist of fate, Sonic's evil alt-verse self, Scourge, would eventually charm Fiona to become his partner in crime. Contrary to what some fans have written, Fiona was NOT waiting for a two-tailed knight in shining armor to rescue her from her relationship with Scourge.
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Do a charmy video so you can do a team chaotix series
I have plushes of these two
Can you do silver the hedgehog
Can you also do the Babylon rogues
I think there is the reason why migthy and ray is not in mordern migthy and ray are in their own adventure as what migthy describe as an adveture type of person while ray follow migthy just like sonic and tails and sega don't add ray cause we got tails and they don't add migthy because we got kunckles i think that is also the reason why he not in chaotix is because migthy were on adventure with ray on their own and i think that poster was from chaotix but yeah is unexplain
Mighty & Ray should have their own spinoff game
That would be a dope idea. Mania showed that their personalities are enough to carry their own game
Yeah i think we’d all love that
👀
And i think the perfect antagonist for it is metal.
I really wish I could make games this is a good idea
Someone finally gives them the attention they deserve!
:)
the funniest frame in the entire video is just the image of "sonic is like my child."
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Thanks for the compliment, new subs are always welcome 👏🏽😂 All my social media is in the description. ;)
R.I.P. Mighty's relevancy.
Mighty is shadow ray is tails
Mighty is kinda knuckles
Where are the boss fights
number 1 I'm not your child number 2 I played that game
Crash bandicoo
exe
Iizuka separating Classic and Modern Sonic is one the most baffling decisions I've seen. I don't know why he is so against using stuff from classic games like characters, Anyone being able to turn super, and Hyper Sonic.
It's stuff like this is why Sonic's universe feels so small and empty. The main characters are everything and the world around them can't contain anything of value. It's just Sonic, Tails and Eggman in an empty cardboard world, Green hill Zone floating in an empty void.
@@yungmuney5903 I agree! So much…recently i been rediscovering my love for Sonic and I’m noticing that to and it’s so played out! They should make mighty and Ray modern and also make sticks the badger a main character moving forward…she to, will add more color and diversity to the Sonic world
Here’s what I think: he’s implying that those characters are DEAD!
It makes no sense especially when adventure and generations mentions the classic games as taking place in the past
Izuka and Miyamoto are both ruining their franchises with weird ass closed minded mentalities. iconic
gotta love how the archie comics took mighty and were like "hey lets make him super traumatized"
I’m flattered! Hopefully we’ll make it into some other media soon.
I am ray sonic might ray
Yay! Ray himself showed up!
hello ray the flying squirrel from segasonic the hedgehog
Oh, dear. Maybe you should calm down a bit, random person that would be obliterated from Reddit in seconds.
Why werent you in the chatoix gane ray :(
I guess one thing you didn't really mention was that Mighty in the Fleetway Comics is a very different character from Mighty in Archie, Mighty in Archie while he has anger issues has them more under control and is more soft spoken and peaceful, in Fleetway, he is just so angry it is funny sometimes. I guess if I had to compare Archie Mighty is more like the Iron Giant whereas Fleetway Mighty is more like Rapheal from TMNT.
Great video man! It's awesome learning about these characters that I know little to nothing about, l like Ray's design, neat character! Hopefully they both make a comeback
There is definitely something charming about Ray’s design. If he never comes back, at least we saw him in true form in Sonic Mania Plus
Idk if it's just me but I love/prefer Amy's original design but her character growth from adventure 1&2...ugh sonic team really bent over the sonic character's and bucked them with a cactus
Amy's character growth in the Adventure games has been the best her character has ever seen.
The original design has grown on me seeing it in both the comics and Sonic Mania Adventures.
I wish Mighty and Ray could make a cameo in a Sonic movie. I don't see that ever happening though.
Originally, "Chaotix" was supposed to be called "Sonic Stadium;" Mighty was supposed to be Sonic, and Tails would also have been playable. What's left of Tails can be found and accessed through debug mode, but isn't usuable...
Wow, this is very Interesting
Tails (multiple stars in Chaotix) is able to be used in earlier prototypes but he is very buggy. It has behaviour extremely similar if not identical to Tails
@@GrounderSez I didn't mean to exclude that info completely; I am aware of these protos...
Pretty sure he is that white knuckles character
6:52 It's bullshit like this is why Sonic's universe feels so small and empty. The main characters are everything and the world around them can't contain anything of value. It's just Sonic, Tails and Eggman in an empty cardboard world, Green hill Zone floating in an empty void.
No, it's empty and small-minded writing like this 9:18, that makes the Archie universe feel so bullshit. It's a constant firehose of irrelevant fantasy nonsense. And anything remotely inspired by RESPECT to the originals is lowest common denominator wiki quotes, like the fact Might and Ray are written as friends is entirely because of which games they were together in.
That is, the one game. And so they were "expanded" as nothing but knockoff Tails and combined Sonic+Knuckles, just so the archie staff can tell their fanfics about Mercia or some shit to a locked-in audience who thought they were reading Sonic comics. And now it's a matter of religious neuro-variability to keep with that "canon" of their personalities, no wonder Sega wants nothing to do with them. YOU finish the epic story of Mercia and Madeline and Fiona the Fucking fox, if you want to.
And I don't want high heavens, Sonic Heroes level of writing is just fine. And that's a downgrade from Adventure, the bottom line is there's plenty to expand upon. Flicky got a lot of development and she(? he? one of them? I think she was a mother in her own game) is one of the early animals that are all just "small forest creatures", unlike now sonic's gang are these "special" Main Character animals. Now to bring back any character they have to be retrofitted to this fan canon expectation, like Mighty and Ray now have to move as a set for some damn reason.
Now that's a great thumbnail.
I've been practicing :)
I love this one! Glad they went with the hedgehog design instead honestly. Thanks for the info!
I probably wouldn’t be a fan right now if they picked an armadillo xD
These numbers look good, Big Bro! Glad to see this growth and I'm always here to learn more Sonic lore. Patiently waiting for your FFIX content!
Know I honestly think that mighty and ray feel like spin off characters of knuckles and tails because they similar ability's such as ray being to glide and tails being to fly, but their kinda the same thing and might and knuckles being both hard hitters.
But Mighty was in an arcade before Sonic 3 so Knuckles is a spin-off of Mighty
@@jimmingjohns true
Similar power doesn't equal Similar characters
@@shellysmith8694 I know but just saying it seems like it.
actually that kinda seems stupid but ill take your word on it
I could totally see SegaSonic as a DS game if it ever got the chance.
I seen similar games use that ball control like Pac Man Party 3D for example.
No i see it more as a 3ds game with its own accesory with the ball thing
You know, I'm actually starting to believe that the Classic games and the Dreamcast/Modern games are two different universes, with each of them being different from the other.
Mighty, Ray, Fang/Nack, Bean and Bark are present in the Classic universe, but aren't in the Modern universe. (Unless you count cameos)
They're also present in the comic universes, like Archie and Fleetway.
(Rephrased)
Looks like that’s how Sonic Team wants things from now on.
Sonic Generations
@@TheMentok Not unless there’s enough criticism from the fans to make them change their minds.
Pretty sure they are, since the sonic force mobile game have classic Sonic and modern Sonic as two different characters
Well, Tails saying ”you’re that Sonic from another *dimension* aren’t you?” (Sonic Forces) kind of seals that theory.
Iizuka separating modern and classic makes no sense especially when adventure and generations mentions the classic games as taking place in the past.
I don’t see them as separate since it just fits better and makes the sonic universe larger when they are together and I’m sure some others at sega view it this way too.
i wonder where modern might and ray are, because after the events of sonic mania plus they just went missing again
There no such thing called the "classic dimension" izuka sonic and classic sonic are the same to us. Might and Ray desvers better along with team hooligan,honey,classic chatiox's, heavy and bomb. But anyway great video dude keep up the great work!
I’m not a fan of them splitting classic and modern dimensions either but it looks like Iizuka is adamant on keeping it that way :/ Thanks for watching!! I got more “classic” characters lined up 🙂
@@TheMentok neat have a nice day.
I'm one to think that Classic and Modern Sonic live in different universes, but okay.
I agree with Mr. L...
@@JoseMat2953 that's cool
I honestly can't wait to see the real origins of team chaostix(I think I misspelled) also your videos amazing
Thank you :D Chaotix is coming. I have one video to go before I get to them
Mighty and ray shouldve been in forces
Mighty and Ray were the Tails and Knuckles before Tails and Knuckles
7:05 so if mighty is alive in the classic world does the mean he is dead in the modern world
You can see a wanted poster for them in generations
Mighty & Gay
One time I sent a note to SEGA asking if Mighty and Ray will come back, unfortunately they said they won’t come back ☹️
Mighty & Ray should have their own spinoff game
I think you should cover the bizarre disconnect between the Classic and Modern continuities.
Mighty and Ray are cool
I love playing as Mighty and Ray in Sonic Mania that I’m actually more advanced in the game with them and Knuckles then Sonic and Tails 😅
I wonder why the guy who made them is very aloof about using them in games🤔
Let’s do blaze and vector
One day they will be modernized, we all know that.
Agreed.
There sercet mighty and ray in cheat code
Iizuka needs to be replaced.
Sonic Crackers🤣🤣🤣 5:07
Mighty,ray and metal sonic really is unique to be a team
Mighty and ray sould have trees own game after sonic fonters
Could you do Blaze next? :)
11:15 Not sure if this is true or not, but I saw someone point out in a comment, that in the Sonic vs Mega Man crossover, when Sonic traveled back in time, and erased his life, Baron never became the leader of wherever Matilda stays, so Mighty never found his sister. Although, because of the pre-genesis wave, it probably just erased her and Baron from existence all together.
YOOOO THE ARCADE ODYSSEY SHOUTOUT
I was just reminiscing about playing Segasonic at that spot as you were talking about it, and then you go and bring it up yourself, crazy
Since the classic games had mostly males, what would've been like if Ray and Mighty were designed to be females? And were always part of Team Rose?
5:23 ''Whose (sonic and mighty) appearance and behaviour are identical.''
Also sonic and mighty: *LOOKS NOTHING ALIKE DUE TO DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND SPECIES*
I know you’re trying to be clever but Mighty’s sprite is literally a reworked version of Sonic’s lol
@@TheMentok reworked or not. Its still a different character design with a different species. You don't see sega calling mighty ''Reworked Sonic'' now do you?
@@TheMentok same with Ray, that’s why it was hard for me to like them both growing up; because all I saw was Sonic in a different animals clothing.
Their gameplay in mania made me start to like them though
@@goldbloxxer8833 man stop. Mighty is just a ctrl c + ctrl v but with a reskin. It's literally the same sprite animations.
@@Xiter2024 False. It's 2 different characters with different species.
A game where egg man gets captured and metal sonic ask these two for help would be so cool
And will make sense for them to be in a team (especially since they hey strength flight but no speed)
I’m not a toll hater on mighty and raid the flank screw but because kinda look like rip off versions of tails and knuckles call is like if they were made from a different country that that Sega refuse to release their game over there and saw that the amplifies again I’m not a solar heater on Ray and mighty the armadillo
It would make more sense if Sonic was caught because in trying to pull the other two to safety he was slowed enough because he couldn't support two others.
If Mighty and Ray come back in the main series, wonder what they look like in Modern appearance.
I think Mighty and Ray should have the next live action series.
I go to Newest first, and I am mediately see some thing reference d-sides.
why do they look so much like tails and knuckles? why didnt they just use tails and knuckles in that game?
Sagasoniccccc
What a horrible decision. Iizuka is running the franchise...
I really miss mighty and ray. I want to see them more
i love mighty and ray
Where’d they go after the classic timeline in the game universe.
This should be interesting 🙂
8th comment!
I first got introduced to them from a sonic super digest it was with moster sloth
i played Sega sonic the hedgehog in 2021, theres some arcade called “Galloping Ghosts” that I went to and got to play it. It was around September in the US
Lol him and Ray were in the bar for 20 years
Sonic had so many parents but they all left him💀
Me the moment I see any form of Mighty:
In The Notepad
Mighty and ray are in the game sonic mania if you buy encore pass
now i hate sonic.exe even more cus he ripped out rays spine
Mighty became d side sonic in fnf d side remix
6th
I have been binging these videos
ray and mighty are the chadest characters in sonic XD
9:52 Uh. No. She wouldn't. An android in her image (yeah, that was quiet the retcon) appeared first to charm Tails, but her programming crashed she was about to drown Tails due to the contradiction in her programming. The proper Fiona Fox was NEVER attracted to Tails, and in fact mocked him over his crush on her. And failing to be rescued when Mighty, Sonic, and Ray escaped, left her with BAAAAAAAD trust issues, determined to rely on only herself. In a truly crazy twist of fate, Sonic's evil alt-verse self, Scourge, would eventually charm Fiona to become his partner in crime. Contrary to what some fans have written, Fiona was NOT waiting for a two-tailed knight in shining armor to rescue her from her relationship with Scourge.
Hell yeah, Arcade Odyssey is where I first played that game too!
I want one at my local arcade but that'll never happen
That place is awesome and definitely deserves even more attention. Had to throw it in my video for some extra eyes
Aw Yeahuh!!!
Oh The Misery, Everyone Wanna Be My Enemy
6:43 he didn't say that for real, right?
I’ll be honest, I love balan Wonderworld and don’t know why people hate it so much.
2:12 rip sonic T. Hedgehog 🫡
0:15 That Frame Was Awaknard
I have the IDW comic! It's truly cute how mighty and ray help out Amy.
Show us mighty modern
Wait can you do Mighty.zip next?
to me it just looks like the tried to replace tails and knuckles. if not replace then clone type characters
wow you just gained a new subscriber excellent video
Lord x be like: 9:36
Never seen that opening animation before with mighty and ray going against metal sonic lol
Shantae is better than sonic
Nickelodeon doesn’t exist
Sixth
I hope they start focusing on more story with modern sonic games again it’s been a long time
i think ray too much looks like tails. it needs to redesign but i love mighty
Do only ray and metal ray
8:00 I have this comic