Yeah that Hydrocity to Mirage Saloon transition still bugs me. Maybe they took in too much salt water in Hydrocity and Mirage Saloon is just a literal mirage?
Garrulous64 I think that a level transition wouldn't really work here, as they would have to make one to fit both your worst nightmare and the new Encore Mode stage.
iAmCatton Hydrocity could have been underneath Mirage Saloon. They coulda just got shot out of a manhole by a torrent of water. Think Chemical Plant to Studiopolis except with more of IGN's favorite liquid.
Try going the chemical plant act 2 and play through it until you reach the area with the huge space(the one where if you head left you can reach a special stage ring) and glide with Ray,you gain a ludicrous amount of speed
Micah Buzan yeah Ray and even mighty to an extent feel way more like additions only for speedrunners and not for regular people cos they don't feel as natural to use as sonic tails and knuckles, but probably are better once you've spent time learning them. Mighty annoys me though, I keep accidently slamming into the ground cos I guess I'm used to double tapping the jump button for the last 25 years
I just wanted to chime in and say that your little cartoonized version of yourself might be the only one I've seen on UA-cam that actually looks like you and doesn't try to slim 20-50 pounds off. I've been shocked in the past when I've seen some of my favorite UA-camrs for the first time (usually streaming on Twitch) after only seeing their little cartoon portraits.
You're a true classic Sonic fan. Like me. I know why you felt disappointed at 6:43. I tried the same thing and felt the same way. I like watching the videos of true classic Sonic fans...and you are on point in this video. By the way, you said "Hydrocity" incorrectly...and correctly. (I loved that...haha!)
For those who just raced through, no. For those who wanted to explore the stages (which are 3 times larger than any classic sonic stage) Yes, it was a Huge annoyance. Now if they could have only made an option to avoid you getting randomly crushed to death.
Well for one getting extra lives in this game isnt very hard, and two, dying from a time out resets the clock anyway. So i still dont see it being a big issue
Mighty/Ray's beginning scenes should be Tails setting them free, him going back to Sonic, and then Mighty/Ray hear a noise and, *BOOM*. Green Hill zone.
I'm glad you acknowledged the pronunciation of hydrocity right after you did it so I didn't have to think about and focus on that for the remainder of the video. Subbed for that reason.
I was late to the Sonic Mania party, having picked up Sonic Mania Plus about 3 days ago for the Switch, but holy crap. This game beat the shit out of me with nostalgia. It's literally my childhood encapsulated into one Sonic game. And for that, I LOVE it.
I just bought this game yesterday and I was in tears how it brought back memories! I had a pretty tough childhood but one of my pleasant memories is playing video games with the few friends I did have. Literally, videos games helped me read by the time I was 4! Videos games (especially sonic) I will always love!!!
I love how in the last mania vid,you stated that it was awesome that we saw bark,bean and the other one(i forgot his name sorry)and all we needed was ray Then they added ray... Maybe the mania devs watch your videos,imagine that
Being able to use the "game options" on save files is my favorite addition. I can't play through the whole thing in one shot, so if I want to beat the game with the insta-shield & Knuckles, I don't want to have to give up the emeralds when I start up again. They put in a sound test code for the emeralds anyway, so that's cool. The flying Super Sonic code is pretty sweet too.
@@captainofthecontrarians4204 Yeah, I recently watched his reviews of the Jak and Daxter series. I was definitely disappointed, but I can see why he was so mad.
@@GatorOne-in7hk every retro game reviewer had that avgn influence at one point. He became more mature since then. He still dropped the F bomb in Nitro Rad's April Fools 2019 video but it was so hilarious in context that I didn't mind it at all
They'd have to make 3 different transitions from Hydrocity to Mirage Saloon. One for the plane level, one for Knuckles', and one for Encore Mode. Though I guess there could have been a fade to them jumping on the Tornado or even just flying on it before fading to the level proper.
Finally, someone said that - Hey this DLC isn't so amazing as everyone is saying. I feel like it's really okay, but I was expecting a bit more, even if the price is relatively low, I would much rather pay more to have just a few more changes and additions.
i love the sonic ova it had great music and to me is one of the best representations of sonic outside of the games i really love that movie im surprised so many think so poorly of it
I've run through the original Mania game at least a few dozen times, and I think you're selling encore mode a bit short. It is true that the general framework of the levels are the same, but I was constantly noticing changes as I was playing the level. My playthroughs of Mania mode and Encode mode end up feeling quite a bit different (with encore I think being even more engaging/interactive). The big ring placement being almost entirely different certainly messes with your familiarity as well and encourages you to explore less-traveled portions of the stages on top of everything else. And I don't think Ray/Mighty not having unique intros is weird at all lol. Knuckles gets one as a reference to the two different intros in Sonic & Knuckles, but he's a special case. Not even Tails gets a unique intro in this game despite being so prolific.
It’s truly amazing that we’re reaching the 1 year anniversary of sonic mania. It’s truly amazing that sonic mania is still kinda relevant 4 years layet
"NOW That's What I Call Sonic"? That's a good one AntDude! Here's a few other ones I thought of: "Sonic the Hedgehog's Greatest Hits" "Sonic on 45" "Sonic the Hedgehog: The Blue Album"
Oh. I also 100% agree with you that the swapping mechanic is absurd. It's just way too difficult to be who you want to be, when you want to be. Especially when every level has paths that require specific characters.
That poor Kirby in the background. While Antdude was raving about Sonic Mania Plus, Kirby's life was slowly being drained by that Metroid sitting on his head!
Personally, I feel that the team mechanic of Encore mode was exactly what the game needed to carve an unique identity for itself that feels wholy different from the Genesis-era titles. Sure, the reused zones did have new layouts and gimmicks, but it still wasn't enough to shake off the feeling that I were just playing through a grab-bag of Sonic's greatest hits.
Fun fact: when the pinball stage is on you see eggman right that was used for the same animation for the Japan game sonic the hedgehog and that’s where mighty and ray debuted
My complaint with encore exactly. The only different thing I noticed (other than on Green hill) is a few more blocks in chemical plant. It is clear that the main attraction of Encore is the tag mode.
11:08 There's already mods of Sonic Mania (and its Plus expansion); Of the few I've seen, there's one that makes Sonic's sprites look more like Sonic 3, one that replaces Sonic & Knuckles' respective hues to look less pink and turquoise, and also a few custom levels, too. On the Plus side, the only one I saw was of the Encore and Mania palettes being swapped, but I'm sure the mods that were for base Mania work with Plus.
With the Hydrocity to Mirage Saloon transition, what I think would have been pretty neat is Sonic (or whoever your playing as) walks through the passage into a room and it has the Tornado. That would have been awesome. And for Encore then the tornado lands and then everyone jumps out and proceeds through the zone.
I can definitely respect the opinions of anyone who thinks encore mode was a letdown but personally I loved the way character switching works, giving you a chance to use all of them frequently enough and making both more punishing but still being easy to remedy as long as as you can hold on to a few rings for long enough. Encore is probably my ideal way of going to go back to it now if I'm not just doing time attack, though I honestly couldn't make it past the first special stage despite having all the emeralds for four files in Mania mode. Not a big loss for me since I hate that super forms rob you of the regular stage music.
Yeah that Hydrocity to Mirage Saloon transition still bugs me. Maybe they took in too much salt water in Hydrocity and Mirage Saloon is just a literal mirage?
Garrulous64 I think that a level transition wouldn't really work here, as they would have to make one to fit both your worst nightmare and the new Encore Mode stage.
iAmCatton Hydrocity could have been underneath Mirage Saloon. They coulda just got shot out of a manhole by a torrent of water. Think Chemical Plant to Studiopolis except with more of IGN's favorite liquid.
Woah I didn't expect you to be here, that's AWESOME!!
WOAH, YOU HERE?!
or water could've shot them above and into mirage saloon refrencing its original outro
With modding support on PC, we could get Yeth Mania
How I long to see the day.
THERE IS
Humanity is beautiful!
Moritz Krause the legend returns
Wish granted
Ray is actually pretty insanely fast once you master his flying technique.
Micah Buzan yes. Looking all the ray speed runs. People are only speed running with ray now
Try going the chemical plant act 2 and play through it until you reach the area with the huge space(the one where if you head left you can reach a special stage ring) and glide with Ray,you gain a ludicrous amount of speed
Ray speedrun in 0.5 A-presses.
Yeah, exactly. It's only problem imo is that unlike Knuckles, Ray -doesn't chuckle- is vulnerable when gliding.
Micah Buzan yeah Ray and even mighty to an extent feel way more like additions only for speedrunners and not for regular people cos they don't feel as natural to use as sonic tails and knuckles, but probably are better once you've spent time learning them. Mighty annoys me though, I keep accidently slamming into the ground cos I guess I'm used to double tapping the jump button for the last 25 years
This easily sums up Sonic Mania Plus' Encore Mode. It's like Zelda 1's second quest... except not hard. Great video dude.
・v・
Really? I had to go back and try to get the last emeralds and that was so frustrating... But I loved the Encore mode
You and garrulous wow
I can already tell by your channel name that you enjoyed And-Knuckles mode.
Conclusion: Everything is better with Mighty and Ray
No wonder Modern City Escape was my favourite level in Generations
Killjoy your channel logo almost reminded me of gamexplain lol
Richie X.
ikr...i had to look twice
Rolling around at the speed of sound 🎶
City Escape was the only good level in SA2
Ha, that poster
Now That's What I Call Sonic sounds like a CD worth buying.
Please let the CD thing be intentional.
I see what u didtheree
Featuring hits like Super sonic racing from sonic r and sanics theme song- earrape version.
Harak Mapping
*X-Files theme*
What even is that profile picture
* ray flies *
Me: hmmmm
* smw feather sounds *
Me: *hmmmmm!!*
@Mind Numbing HMMMMMMMM
Smw *CAPE* sounds
Wait, modding sonic mania. Are we going to see the return of
Yeth?
Tronplexed I hope so
Yes.
Yeth Yeth we are
Yeth mania
@Jaden_KYNG PLEASE YES
Now that's what I call Sonic
or ray
or mighty
I need a CD of Sonic Music like that
Sorry to Wolfy for What I did On Mario Kart Kooper look up crush 40: best of super Sonic songs.
This video game character goes fast and collects rings.
Vol. 37......& KNUCKLES
11:30 was I the only one who said "neat"?
No I did to 😂
#Dorklyforlife
Huh, neat
~Sonic the Hedgehog (Dorkly)
Now for...Sonic Mania Minus!
Where Sonic and company are buffed beyond belief and new zones? (Like Brawl Minus?)
Uhh. Are you *positive* we need that?
Perfectly balanced.
I am a PERSON We shouldn’t *repel* from making it!
Uhh. You mean S3&K
11:29
WROOONG!
You needed to say "huh, neat.", not "huh, interesting"!
Hayyo!
*Clears troat*
...& knuckles.
Troat *troat*
Clears TrOaT
And TrOaT
*TROAT*
OH NO
Critical Charger HE SAID THE THING!!!!!!
I just wanted to chime in and say that your little cartoonized version of yourself might be the only one I've seen on UA-cam that actually looks like you and doesn't try to slim 20-50 pounds off. I've been shocked in the past when I've seen some of my favorite UA-camrs for the first time (usually streaming on Twitch) after only seeing their little cartoon portraits.
Ah I see that the ending hint to the next video was about as subtle as a SPEEDING 40 TON TRUCK.
Looking forward to it.
Never thought I’d see you here.
On.
Toast.
Hey MegaGWolf I Watched your Sonic Corruption Videos!
The antitoast
You're a true classic Sonic fan. Like me. I know why you felt disappointed at 6:43. I tried the same thing and felt the same way. I like watching the videos of true classic Sonic fans...and you are on point in this video. By the way, you said "Hydrocity" incorrectly...and correctly. (I loved that...haha!)
I never would’ve thought that almost a year after purchasing the game, I’d be spending even more money and wasting even more of my life on the game
oof
thebahooplamaster Been a while since I've seen you in someone's comments lol
thebahooplamaster GO AWAY
Not related to the topic but he’s about to hit 4 years of reviewing Classic Sonic hacks in a few days. Actually I think he already hit it...
Time that you enjoy wasting isn't wasted time.
I really hope you do a video covering Sonic Mania PC mods. There's some really good stuff out there.
he kinda has to make that video now that he hinted at it
David Sherman where do you find the mods? Is it like the classics where its in the workshop on steam?
duffman18 No, Sonic Mania mods can be found here: gamebanana.com/games/6045
Don't worry AntDude there is now a mod loader for plus and slowly more mods are coming
Guys
Its obviously pronounced
"Hydrocity"
No CityHydro
@@alumlovescake you got it all figured out bro
All that makes me think of is metrocity/metro city from megamind
NO, ITS PRONOUNCED HYDROCITY!
No Yeth. 1 Star.
This comment has no business being this funny
Don't worry, he'll probably get his own game in the form of Yeth Mania.
Yeth for the next sonic mania Plus DLC
The biggest disappointment for me was no new final boss in Encore Mode...
*Sees T shirt*
Lemme guess, you Nitro Rad and Gaming Historian are going to perform an occult ritual to have Nintendo finally make Startropics 3?
All hail startropics
Yep.
That whole talk about modding at the end was really subtle
But antdude, you’re not the gaming historian
"Hydrawcity"
Antdude is Megamind confirmed
The Time limit can be Removed!?
My God! They Actually Listened To Complaint's! This is why this game will be Remembered as one of the Great's!
You don't need apostrophes in those places. Not trying to be a bother, just wanted to protect you from the grammar Nazi nation...
Ah yes, bad apostrophes. Neat.
Wait people actually complained about the timer? LMAO
For those who just raced through, no.
For those who wanted to explore the stages (which are 3 times larger than any classic sonic stage) Yes, it was a Huge annoyance.
Now if they could have only made an option to avoid you getting randomly crushed to death.
Well for one getting extra lives in this game isnt very hard, and two, dying from a time out resets the clock anyway. So i still dont see it being a big issue
Help I've dipped so much money on Mania with the collectors edition and physical edition and having the normal game on multiple platforms
Good
OH GOD. Garrulous, & Knuckles, AND Billeh all in one comment section? I'm speechless.
Mighty/Ray's beginning scenes should be Tails setting them free, him going back to Sonic, and then Mighty/Ray hear a noise and, *BOOM*. Green Hill zone.
I'm glad you acknowledged the pronunciation of hydrocity right after you did it so I didn't have to think about and focus on that for the remainder of the video. Subbed for that reason.
1:34 To be fair, I constantly flip flop between the two pronunciations.
The Cringe Lord of Time and Space same
Ditto. They both match the zone so who cares?
I was late to the Sonic Mania party, having picked up Sonic Mania Plus about 3 days ago for the Switch, but holy crap. This game beat the shit out of me with nostalgia. It's literally my childhood encapsulated into one Sonic game. And for that, I LOVE it.
I just bought this game yesterday and I was in tears how it brought back memories! I had a pretty tough childhood but one of my pleasant memories is playing video games with the few friends I did have. Literally, videos games helped me read by the time I was 4! Videos games (especially sonic) I will always love!!!
Remember in the original video when he said “Now Give us Rey the Flying Squirrel
Wishes do come true
I love how in the last mania vid,you stated that it was awesome that we saw bark,bean and the other one(i forgot his name sorry)and all we needed was ray
Then they added ray...
Maybe the mania devs watch your videos,imagine that
And Mighty
Ray the Flying Squirrel
Looks like a golden Tanooki
Feels like the Cape Feather
Really nice video and review.. thanks :)
Being able to use the "game options" on save files is my favorite addition. I can't play through the whole thing in one shot, so if I want to beat the game with the insta-shield & Knuckles, I don't want to have to give up the emeralds when I start up again. They put in a sound test code for the emeralds anyway, so that's cool. The flying Super Sonic code is pretty sweet too.
Best thing about AntDude’s videos? He never swears, and still has humor. So many UA-cam reviewers could learn from this man.
in his older videos he did sometimes and man it is just so weird to watch them back now.
@@captainofthecontrarians4204 Yeah, I recently watched his reviews of the Jak and Daxter series. I was definitely disappointed, but I can see why he was so mad.
@@GatorOne-in7hk every retro game reviewer had that avgn influence at one point. He became more mature since then. He still dropped the F bomb in Nitro Rad's April Fools 2019 video but it was so hilarious in context that I didn't mind it at all
They'd have to make 3 different transitions from Hydrocity to Mirage Saloon. One for the plane level, one for Knuckles', and one for Encore Mode. Though I guess there could have been a fade to them jumping on the Tornado or even just flying on it before fading to the level proper.
There needs to be a chaotix mode.
Hmmmm Moding in a game that was basically made by fan moders creating more fan moders thus ensuring Sonic the Hedgehog lives forever.
Mighty and ray are basically the crane school bois from dragon ball.
0:26 Autdude that it says “now that what a call A sonic”
Hey there SonikDude101 I've been watching you since the beginning and its very inspiring to see how far you've come
Finally, someone said that - Hey this DLC isn't so amazing as everyone is saying. I feel like it's really okay, but I was expecting a bit more, even if the price is relatively low, I would much rather pay more to have just a few more changes and additions.
Sonic mania plus will be 5 years old in 4 days!
I actually thought Ray was flipping me off the first time around
i love the sonic ova it had great music and to me is one of the best representations of sonic outside of the games i really love that movie im surprised so many think so poorly of it
I've run through the original Mania game at least a few dozen times, and I think you're selling encore mode a bit short. It is true that the general framework of the levels are the same, but I was constantly noticing changes as I was playing the level. My playthroughs of Mania mode and Encode mode end up feeling quite a bit different (with encore I think being even more engaging/interactive). The big ring placement being almost entirely different certainly messes with your familiarity as well and encourages you to explore less-traveled portions of the stages on top of everything else.
And I don't think Ray/Mighty not having unique intros is weird at all lol. Knuckles gets one as a reference to the two different intros in Sonic & Knuckles, but he's a special case. Not even Tails gets a unique intro in this game despite being so prolific.
Ray just being Cape Mario is my favorite thing.
Got the update the day it came out
It’s truly amazing that we’re reaching the 1 year anniversary of sonic mania. It’s truly amazing that sonic mania is still kinda relevant 4 years layet
*inhales*
Hydro
City
"NOW That's What I Call Sonic"? That's a good one AntDude!
Here's a few other ones I thought of:
"Sonic the Hedgehog's Greatest Hits"
"Sonic on 45"
"Sonic the Hedgehog: The Blue Album"
Love this game!! 10/10
The added special stage alien thing is hard as fcuk!!
Oh. I also 100% agree with you that the swapping mechanic is absurd. It's just way too difficult to be who you want to be, when you want to be. Especially when every level has paths that require specific characters.
I still would appreciate some good quality Mighty and Ray figures, created by TOMY
We are in 2024 and still not a Sonic Mania sequel.
He has a gaming historian shirt
That poor Kirby in the background. While Antdude was raving about Sonic Mania Plus, Kirby's life was slowly being drained by that Metroid sitting on his head!
Tails doll, metal knuckles, and heavy and bomb return when
Happy 5th birthday to Mania Plus
Gotta go fast man
Personally, I feel that the team mechanic of Encore mode was exactly what the game needed to carve an unique identity for itself that feels wholy different from the Genesis-era titles.
Sure, the reused zones did have new layouts and gimmicks, but it still wasn't enough to shake off the feeling that I were just playing through a grab-bag of Sonic's greatest hits.
Antdude, de Blob review, de Blob review, de Blob review! It’s on the Switch now, and there are two other de Blob games on wii and ds!
On the subject of mods, that's what Encore Mode felt like to me - a really well made mod.
Cover the Dillon trilogy please
Sonic Mania Plus Plus, now introducing... BOMB AND HEAVY
Try doing a review on Rhythm heaven for the ds
Fun fact: when the pinball stage is on you see eggman right that was used for the same animation for the Japan game sonic the hedgehog and that’s where mighty and ray debuted
Finally, some legitimate criticisms instead of the constant stream of: 10/10 Best Sonic game The real Sonic is back best game yadda yadda yadda.
My complaint with encore exactly.
The only different thing I noticed (other than on Green hill) is a few more blocks in chemical plant. It is clear that the main attraction of Encore is the tag mode.
Okay...but where’s Yeth Mania?
NoahProVG yeah where is it?
A thing you can trust.
MarioGamer 64 Thanks for telling me man, I’ll check it out now..
it's been a thing for ages
I waited for this, love the video
11:23 👀
Next video: Sonic Mania Rom Hacks
what's this?
*cough cough* sonic gaiden mod *cough cough*
ua-cam.com/video/ae_GKlyv3so/v-deo.html
0:36 What?? No! That spider boss was awesome!
"Sonic ova. Who remembers that mess"
Unsubscribed, dislikes, closes video, deletes youtube account, deletes system32 folder.
Succulent Turnip it was a mess and the English voices was bad could've used the adventure voice actors
If only we could get a modern sonic game this good. Hell, even use the lost world controls for sonic.
#SONICSTILLCANLIVE 😆😆😆😆.
10:20 if you look for it, you can find the frame everyone loves.
Plus
UUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLTRAAAAAAAA
Minus
I love that Super Mario World reference at 5:30 lol
Why everone is english. the guy say dont talks english -_-
Anyways 2019?
11:08 There's already mods of Sonic Mania (and its Plus expansion); Of the few I've seen, there's one that makes Sonic's sprites look more like Sonic 3, one that replaces Sonic & Knuckles' respective hues to look less pink and turquoise, and also a few custom levels, too. On the Plus side, the only one I saw was of the Encore and Mania palettes being swapped, but I'm sure the mods that were for base Mania work with Plus.
Sonic mania video: can we have ray the flying squirrel?
Sonic devs: we gotchu fam
OMG is that a Gaming Historian Shirt? OK THIS IS THE BEST CHANNEL EVER
iTS GREAT TOO SEE YOU WEARING THAT GAMING HISTORIAN SHIRT ! I LOVE WHEN OTHER UA-camRS SHOW OTHER UA-camRS SUPPORT !
With the Hydrocity to Mirage Saloon transition, what I think would have been pretty neat is Sonic (or whoever your playing as) walks through the passage into a room and it has the Tornado. That would have been awesome. And for Encore then the tornado lands and then everyone jumps out and proceeds through the zone.
SONIC MANIA MODS : This is how you Sonic Mania
Nice video!
And also nice lead in to possibly a new sonic rom hack/modding video with a focus on Sonic Mania and/or Sonic Mania Plus.
2:27 Wow! I did NOT see that reference!
I didn't play the game gear games too much so, I thought the gliders were original.
Hey did you know Ray skidding animation is the same animation from sega sonic arcade!?
Huehuehue.
That outro gave me oh no goosebumps
It was a really good follow up for Mania, and it was a nice touch taking inspiration from Knuckles Chaotix for Plus.
ray's sign post when you finish is really freakin' spoopy
sonic ova is beautiful
I can definitely respect the opinions of anyone who thinks encore mode was a letdown but personally I loved the way character switching works, giving you a chance to use all of them frequently enough and making both more punishing but still being easy to remedy as long as as you can hold on to a few rings for long enough. Encore is probably my ideal way of going to go back to it now if I'm not just doing time attack, though I honestly couldn't make it past the first special stage despite having all the emeralds for four files in Mania mode. Not a big loss for me since I hate that super forms rob you of the regular stage music.
3:46 the transition kinda makes sense since the tornado was left on Angel Island
First time on your channel. Subscribed! Thanks for the lolz
the holographic case on the game looked so cool, that i cut it out and turned it into cover art, and i regret nothing, it looks fricking amazing.
The backround pic is just amazing