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Unlike Microsoft. Microsoft just flat out ruined Mods for Minecraft bedrock. Like god. Someone hacked you and you do this? Minecraft would not survive if it wasn't for mods. And they're crucifying it now.
Terraria updating its game and calling it the final update is like that guy in the bar that’s like “alright, this’ll be my last drink” and the second they get another drink they’re like”alright, but seriously that’s my last one”
@@Predator20357 only issue is that when you design with each new major update as a “last”, the older ones can get put in limbo like state, like with post golem gear, because by that point you can just start pillar events and get some of best gear, giving no reason to get that gear that was previously designed as endgame rewards type gear, going off terraria example
@@bluegem8582 Eh, I find it to to not be a big deal at all. I care not for the alternatives of “Road Maps” where I find them to be more disappointing compared to some power creep.
Or like playing Terraria and tell yourself "ok, getting late. Just 30min more". "Oh i played 15min longer than i wanted... well, lets just make it 60min".
Another thing about Massive Monster, from someone who's in the Discord server, is that I've never seen a studio listen to their fans more. Coop, the daycare, shoot even the ability to pet the followers were all fan suggested and implemented immediately. And i had a glitch that made me lose a follower i liked with no way to get them back, i mentioned it and they patched it THE NEXT DAY, and i got my follower back. Its WILD how responsive they are.
@@serendipitylove3930 so with the sins of the flesh update - kids can inherent the "petable" trait if one of their parents have it, allowing them to be pet even if they arent a dog follower
I feel like that might come to their detriment later on in the game's life, as a fan myself. I don't want them to listen *too* much to the fanbase, lest we get something like reviving Ratau, despite the player making that choice.
@spidey5558 Of course! Although I doubt they would be pressured into adding anything they don't want to. The fact that they add so many fan suggestions already will likely make the fandom more forgiving for what they don't add
Why would it be ironic? Lambs are a symbol of purity in Christianity. Before Jesus you were required to sacrifice Lamb and Goats to repent for sins. Hence one of the title's for Jesus being the Lamb of God.
@@kjldfsklsdflk to this day? Absolutely not, the games they publish are _still_ for sale, so that tells me they are still stealing ip from developers, no matter how beloved they are.
To anyone wondering original Cave Story dev is Pixel,,, And he made original Cave Story that's freeware on itchio, unlike Cave Story+ that's absolutely not worth to buy (better pirate it really)
I'm a big fan of cave story, i'm sad that of ALL the Comanies that the rights could've gone to when the creator gave them up, why Nicalis? they've been trolling us cave story fans for years now with fake sequels. (Edit: wow, I did not expect this comment to get this many likes!)
@@Spiney09 I don't know if that's true. Cave Story was a hit years before Undertale but Undertale was a proof of concept in adapting an entirely different game.
@@OdaSwifteye indie games as a whole struggled to take off before cave story. Cave story helped indie games become as mainstream as they are now, by showing that one guy totally could make a great game. It’s not the only factor obviously, but it really helped.
I have an odd mention here by the name of Moon Studios. They created a series by the name of Ori And The Blind Forest/Ori And The Will Of The Wisps, the latter being a game I love to death and was extremely well recieved. But somewhat recently I read a very convincing article on them that showcased the two founders to be unprofessional asswipes that ran through their talented employees like toilet paper. Just knowing that alone taints my love for that game; knowing that the many artists that worked on it were abused by the people they thought would be a good studio.
In the early days of Will of the Wisps, many players noticed that many game mechanics were largely ripped off of Hollow knight, like some characters and charms system(they were called spirit pieces or smth), and the devs answered such questions really agressively. Like, it's understandable that Ori & HK are rival games of similar genre(apart from the fact that HK is more combat-based, while Ori games are parcour-based), but such blatant ripp-off is a super strange move from Moon Studios
@@user-rt6qe2go3q I'm sorry but wtf is this point. Hollow Knight is not the only metroidvania my dude. There are plenty of games with similar systems that came after or even before.
should've talked about videocult, the only hate i've seen towards them is game critics saying Rain World is too hard (probably because the game puts you on the bottom of the food chain and simulates an entire ecossystem)
Surprised to see no mention of ConcernedApe, dev of Stardew Valley outside of the mention in the Cult of the Lamb section cause he's an indie dev and Stardew Valley is such a good game and is even mod friendly so people have been able to make their own custom content for the game.
To be fair, Concerned Ape is Quintessentially the Solo Dev that many aspire to be He was working a day job while he developed the game and apparently his wife stepped in saying he should go into dev Full time while she more or less took the weight of expenses like Bills and such.
Same! And ConcernedApe is another case where it's clear he cares about Stardew, which makes all the difference with a fanbase and the quality he's consistently put out
Dude, Massive Monster and Aggro Crab are the best dev teams out there. Their entire shtick is "The fans wanted this, so we did it. Here's some extra stuff we wanted to do as well."
What about ULTRAKILL? Steam commenters bombarded the game with negative reviews, citing it had no sex, so PITR added an official mod which gave the game Bluetooth support for certain....toys.
@@Its_A_Real_Goose Seemly and most undeniably yes. If you and some other self-proclaimed fans, somehow don’t see the red and black (these two colors used in religious and folk horror stories) throughout its cover art, the game itself, and it’s marketing. Then, I really don’t know why you and others aren’t surprised? Also, the main storyline and (one user points out) aesthetically does meant to play it both seriously and scary. While most every else is meant to be funny and action-ey.
Then there are Indie Game Studios like Hello Games that went from Most Hated to Loved with No Man's Sky. Wouldn't be surprised if they picked up another award for their constant game support and free DLC.
@@michaelgum97 The only redemption arc in video games that I'm aware that is even close to No Man's Sky would be Final Fantasy XIV. From the WORST mistake Square Enix ever released, to their most succesful and valuable title ever, with just one director change (well, the team behind too) and a meteor to the in-game world, to nuke it and redesign EVERYTHING. They are pretty transparent too, most of the time, and their social media interactions are on point.
@@lenlimbo We dont see a lot of those, because most of the time it takes a dev to actually come out and say "We really fucked this up, how can we fix it?" Instead of just running off with all the money, or just silently turning a game from 2/10 to 5/10 like a certain Fallout game with a certain 76 in the title....
Probably better to specify "Publishers" when you use a thumbnail of Cave Story. The developer(s) of Cave Story are pretty screwed by Nicalis's nonsense.
Honorable Mention: New Blood. they published a bunch of indie fps games like dusk, amid evil, fallen aces and especially ultrakill along side also publishing faith the unholy trinity and super galaxy squadron
@@funnydotyes New Blood is my favorite studio as of now. All of their games are bangers, they are pretty friendly with their community and they love to meme to the point that they put dick jokes made by their favorite youtuber on their Steam store pages.
Great... they never put it in the first or second minute of the video because at exactly 2-3 mi nutes we had opened the comment section thus missing the occsional *pop* from the comment
I cant lie it's sad how u didn't mention how the cult of the lamb team made a tweet about how they would add "the reproductive process" if they got to a certain amount of followers
> See Massive Monster > See the Lamb > Click video > Wait patiently until Cult of the Lamb/Massive Monster mentioned > Go absolutely crazy > Click off the video
Dunno if anyone has said this yet: Hollow Knight fans are (or, have been) going through what we Metroid fans did with Prime 4. Not to say I haven't followed suit myself. I'll have to admit, I have yet to play Hollow Knight at all. But I digress. If Silksong is still absent beyond the speculated time of late Fall this year (so I've seen/heard), I'd give it another two years for that prime (no pun intended) 7-year absence.
I would compare it more towards Cuphead. The game went through a long production period and took forever to release. It’s still a great game, but it still went as long.
@mantis638 Oh, right! I forgot that also took a long time to make. Although it's funny to think that the highly anticipated and soon-to-be successful games took/take the longest to make. (It's like they put genuine care into making it...)
@@mantis638 It was so long really because of the animations and art style, with them drawing every. Single. Frame by hand and then scanning these frames. That is an insane task for any team, let alone an indie team that's also limited in budget.
Small correction because slander to the grandpa of indie games is treason of the highest order: Nicalis did not make Cave Story, it was made by Daisuke Amaya over the course of a few years and released for free, whereas Nicalis bought the rights to it and made remasters and updates
Learning that Team Cherry is just three people makes me feel somewhat more reassured about the lack of Silksong. I'd rather that they spend their time perfecting their craft than shoving the game out early with bugs.
Team Shanghai Alice, despite has a word ‘team’ it’s just one person, Jun’ya Ota. He has been an indie developer for 29 years, his leniency on copyright is one of the reasons what makes Touhou Project is successful, so successful the fanmade works are more popular than the official. They have been with us for decades on the internet but few people realized it.
Honourable mention: project moon. You see no PM haters because their games are such a specific masterpiece that they easily attract people who will become cult followers and are some of the most caring Devs to their fans
@@NicoNicoNessieSub They work with actively feminist companies (Mili) and it is less they fired an artist, and more before they could make a corporate reply to the incels, the artist herself quit
@@NicoNicoNessieSub first of all, it's impossible to fire the artist right away because they're bound by the contract and the labour government will be on their ass if they did that. They actually waited until her contract over. Not to mention, the artist didn't want to stay in the company. if anything, you should be wary of the people spreading the rumor and build a money fund for the artist. the artist NEVER receive the money. this is how i end up trusting pm more.
Just to add something, relogic devs listen to their fans, and most content and changes in the game are suggestions from fans, thats what makes them an awesome team
That's because all the people complaining about their game moved on from slow decade waiting for npcs update they promised. All that's left is shills and devs teasing said chills with pictures for an update that would come out in two years lol
Should of put in behemoth as a good company due to how they keep updating their games like castle crashers and battle block theater years after release
im inhaling lots of hopium and copium with CC getting a dlc, because i geniuenly hope it means there's gonna be a potential Castle Crashers 2 sometime soon. They DID made a new hominid game after years of silence after all. So maybe CC might get a sequel soon...
Personally, I would add "Freebird Games" to the most loved, purely due to the level of storytelling in their few games. Definitely worthy of their cult following. Yes, I'm mainly pointing them out, solely because their games need more attention, and if more people experience the story, that would be great. I'm also rewatching some playthroughs of the most recent game, and still get emotional because of it.
Cult of the lamb devs also have that old school newgrounder DNA in them. they made flash games on newgrounds when I was still a child and thats where their entire company started
Personally, what I think makes Re-Logic such a loved studio is how connected they are with their community, several features in the game are based of concepts, ideas or suggestions of fans, if not just, what the fans said they wanted. The best example of this was the 1.4.4 update which was almost completely just qol changes and fan additions, on top of fresh new content too. New items, weapons, blocks, seeds, features, like, there was so much content added for a relatively small update (when compared to the likes of 1.4 or 1.3) that everyone had something to be happy about, not to mention how they are very attentive to feedback, always looking for ways to improve the game, even in things that may already be good. Another great thing about them, is that they fully support modding, even integrating it as a part of the game (with tmodloader), that allowed hardcore fans to make huge projects to change the game on their own way, with some mods rivaling the vanilla game in how much content they have. Them being clear with development also helps keep the fans excited and in the loop of what's to come, with things such as occasional spoilers or the monthly state of the game being a few examples. They're always pushing themselves to make an already great game the best they can make it and that's a very respectable trait of them did I mention I like terraria?
"If you like games with awesome communities" >proceeds to advertise a game whose community is so toxic that players will leak ACTUAL MILITARY DOCUMENTS just to win an internet argument. Ok buddy, sure.
As a member of the Isaac community, Nicalis sucks for us too, so much so that it could've doubled the length of their segment in the video: - The DLC for Isaac are more like paid updates, each one has to be gotten in sequential order, and these DLCs also contain bug fixes and balance changes for game content. The number of actual regular updates in the game's history is low for having existed for 10 years. - The DLC Afterbirth+ was essentially made entirely by Nicalis, and promised official mod support along with its new content. On release day, it was an absolute mess, many of the items added were subpar, the new "Portal" enemy was unbalanced, and the major boss they added was essentially just the AI of already existing bosses held together with sticks and tape; it didn't even have an idle animation on release. The modding tools they promised were missing features the community would've wanted, and example mods they provided didn't even work. - Recently they've been making public alpha tests for a free online co-op update (something actually decent for once?) but one of their alphas was for the wave-based alternate game mode, Greed Mode, which people generally disliked compared to the original game. One person datamined the code for the previous alpha's normal mode co-op, sharing their findings, and this was enough for the co-op alphas to stop, since "one person ruined it for everyone else".
Gotta add my favorite "bad" game: Dragon Date. Dev released a good demo, Project got fundet on Kickstarter, Dev abandoned the project because reasons, Dev promised it is not abandoned, Switching the Devs after full silenece and one announcement, still no update after 2 Years of switching Devs. Almost 10 years and the Backers got nothing but one excuse after another.
Somewhere on a hard drive that still runs XP, I still have my original freeware installation of Cave Story. It honestly pisses me off how poorly Nicalis handled Cave Story, that was THE original indie dev game that arguably kicked off a new age of indie games, it's legacy should be something so much better than crap ports and mismanagement causing it to fade from memory.
According to Edmund, Nikalis was fully in charge for the afterbirth+ DLC, that will give you a taste of how much they stink. And yes, Nikalis are responsible for Delirium's existence, a boss so awfully made that even the repentance devs gave up on fixing it, thanks Nikalis!
@@RX-782Gundam i dont even know how many hours i have on warthunder i only know that i played 14 hours every day for like a year or 2 and i only got to swed rank 7 lol
Hollow knight went from a game I heard very little about, to wanting to learn everything about it and being obsessed in a week, one of the greatest games I’ve played, up there with Bloodborne and bioshock 2
Another amazing indie studio is Coffee Stain, the guys behind goat simulator but better known for Satisfactory. Their community interaction, feedback response and attention to detail with the development and design of satisfactory is outstanding. They’ve even added a few community memes as in game easter eggs which is amazing. If you love factory building games, I’d highly recommend it.
I'm not sure I buy Team Cherry's explanation, and this is coming from someone who isn't a massive HK fan whose waiting with bated breath for Silksong (I enjoyed HK, it just wasn't my favorite metroidvania of all time). I can understand that dev logs aren't for everyone but the idea that dropping an occasional update is going to delay the game *F O R E V E R* just seems disingenuous when plenty of devs drop dev logs and get their product out in a reasonable amount of time. Even if it were true, updating the fans once or twice a year just seems to be a good faith gesture when you take as long as they have at this point. You don't even have to go into extreme detail, just a nod and a wink that things haven't gone terribly wrong.
Shame DE the creators of Warframe didn't get a mention. The community is amazing and the devs stream regularly just to keep in touch with the community
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I totally forgot we're talking about STUDIOS and got insanely confused when Concerned Ape didn't appear in the video, especially since SDV was even mentioned in one of the entries.
One thing to note about BattleState or BSG is that they gave acess to the PVE mode to all of the Edge of Darkness users at the end. You can't really defend them about the whole lack of comunicattion to the community but In my opinion they are overall a "good" company and not even close to the bullshit that ubisoft is doing rn. You have to also add to all of this the fact that Escape from Tarkov is the top extraction shooter that didn't die/got lawysuited in less than a year and then you start to see why they do these things (exept the whole unheard drama, that was pure bullshit).
you should make a video about small indie studios (1-4 people) that have made very impressive stuff like rain world having extremely impressive creature AI and ADOM that has extremely many things to do
Thought they got cancelled for firing a random female employee because incells didn’t like that a male artist didn’t draw one of the characters in a bikini
The funny part about Re-Logic and Terraria is I think they genuinely believe themselves every time. Every time they put out a new update they go “okay, this’ll be the last one,” but then Ashley from the art team pipes up with a cool new idea and then they have to release another one.
@@belliebun4529 i prefer someone else’s analogy of relogic updates being like a drunk at the bar saying its their lest drink before heading out and then ordering more drinks
You're missing Stardew Valley. Concerned Ape is a one man show on top of being indie... he truly is Indie. Yes I know he has a team nowadays but they prioritize patching Stardew, keep fixing bugs, adding new content, etc. While Eric does most(or all) of the developing, music compositions, sprite art and lore. Eric also communicates with his fans all time and even wound up as a guest appearing in a couple Stardew youtubers' videos. Plus he's mod friendly
Can't believe you didn't mention Concerned Ape from Stardew Valley (and upcoming Haunted Chocolatier) who continues to release free updates for a game that came out in 2016. He's only 1 guy who does this for the love and passion of his game.
16:06 for those who want a better Cube World, Veloren is pretty great. Not on Steam, but it is free. Bit of a learning curve at first but once you get your footing you get some good momentum.
Dude… 6:09 I never thought that Massive Monster would be a game company that I remember, but after being a HUGE fan of Cult of the Lamb for a couple years and seeing the active dedication to the group?? I got MAD respect for them!!! The dedication to their franchise is crystal clear, and with that??? I would GLADLY play all their titles!!!! Keep up the good work guys!!!
@@Elijah_the_weyo_boy They were a studio that published a bunch of asset flip/shovelware games on steam that were extremely badly reviewed. I think there was something about Valve having to step in because they were sueing the people that gave them bad reviews.
Im honestly more than fine with not getting any form of release date for silksong any time soon. Games are a crap ton of work and with only 3, the workload is 10x higher. I dont want any dates or potential developnent timelines, i just want something, ANYTHING, to see that silksong is even in development. It just really sucks to essentially be stuck in a purgatory with a game that im honestly really invested in. Im fine with even the smallest crumb, i just want that single crumb 😢
I would say an honorable mention has to be Kupo Games. If you don't know, that's the maker of the Epic Battle Fantasy series, which was previously on Flash, but has been ported to Steam and Mobile in the recent times. It's an amazing RPG with great music, and they interact with the community fairly often.
my honourable mention would be Digital Extremes, lots of active communication between the devs and the fanbase and the game they are most known for (Warframe) is free to play, going strong for 10+ years
You shouldve added zeekerss to the video, the only bad reviews on steam are reviews to either tell you to stop looking at the bad reviews or just joke reviews
Gotta admit. I had no idea about any of that stuff regarding Nicalis. Cave Story was one of those little games I saw on the Wii Shop that was pretty cheap and I had a couple bucks left, it looked kinda fun, I liked the music I was hearing, and I thought I'd take a gamble. Turned out to be one of the most enjoyable games I'd ever played, and REALLY got me into indie games. Sad to hear the company I got it from was shite, especially now after getting the 3DS version and such after years. Love the game, hate the owner, I guess. I'd always kinda wanted more out of that title. Some continuation of plot or something. I always felt like Quote and Curly could have had more adventures, new places to explore, weapons to find. As a big fan of sprite-based games, it was right up my alley. And hey, if it became something more 3D, that's fine too (Curly's cute). It just had such a unique "world" to it (despite only seeing the one floating island). That lore could have been expanded on. I guess that's just the way of older games.
Sort of shocked that Undertale or Pizza tower wasn’t mentioned here Since both creators are beloved by the community along with many Au’s by its fans, and it says a lot
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man, this may seem crazy but maybe I'm the only Brazilian watching your video I'm the biggest fan of cult of the lamb in Brazil
NO
No, get a Patreon
No.
Not to mention that the devs of terraria, Relogic, FULLY support modding, even allowing it to be officially added to steam and everything.
Unlike Microsoft.
Microsoft just flat out ruined Mods for Minecraft bedrock. Like god. Someone hacked you and you do this? Minecraft would not survive if it wasn't for mods. And they're crucifying it now.
@@Never.A.Human6235no kidding. i don't even play vanilla anymore. Its mods or i play a different game.
Also playing Terraria everytime a new update comes feel like a new game cause of how many content they added
Relogic is pretty much four parallel universes ahead of Microsoft.
@@fractalgem exactly 😭
Terraria updating its game and calling it the final update is like that guy in the bar that’s like “alright, this’ll be my last drink” and the second they get another drink they’re like”alright, but seriously that’s my last one”
@@Melostone I like the idea, always make an update like it’s the last one instead of making an update as if there will be another one.
@@Predator20357 only issue is that when you design with each new major update as a “last”, the older ones can get put in limbo like state, like with post golem gear, because by that point you can just start pillar events and get some of best gear, giving no reason to get that gear that was previously designed as endgame rewards type gear, going off terraria example
@@bluegem8582 Eh, I find it to to not be a big deal at all. I care not for the alternatives of “Road Maps” where I find them to be more disappointing compared to some power creep.
Or like playing Terraria and tell yourself "ok, getting late. Just 30min more". "Oh i played 15min longer than i wanted... well, lets just make it 60min".
"Just one more update"
Another thing about Massive Monster, from someone who's in the Discord server, is that I've never seen a studio listen to their fans more. Coop, the daycare, shoot even the ability to pet the followers were all fan suggested and implemented immediately. And i had a glitch that made me lose a follower i liked with no way to get them back, i mentioned it and they patched it THE NEXT DAY, and i got my follower back. Its WILD how responsive they are.
I wish we could pet every kind of follower, not just the dogs 🥺
@@serendipitylove3930 so with the sins of the flesh update - kids can inherent the "petable" trait if one of their parents have it, allowing them to be pet even if they arent a dog follower
@serendipitylove3930 all follower kinds can be pettable, if they have the pettable trait :]
I feel like that might come to their detriment later on in the game's life, as a fan myself. I don't want them to listen *too* much to the fanbase, lest we get something like reviving Ratau, despite the player making that choice.
@spidey5558 Of course! Although I doubt they would be pressured into adding anything they don't want to. The fact that they add so many fan suggestions already will likely make the fandom more forgiving for what they don't add
Honorable mention: ghostship games. They have made funny game about space dwarves and been pretty open with fan base
@@hellina_girlie yes
Rock and stone!
@@JaxonGerard-st9wv DO I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE!?
If you don't rock and stone you ain't coming home
ROCK AND STONE
putting a halo on the lamb is... a bit ironic
Yep
Wow I'm surprised this comment exploded
i mean… he did [SPOILER]
A part of the game is literally collecting sin
Fr I was gonna comment that
Why would it be ironic? Lambs are a symbol of purity in Christianity. Before Jesus you were required to sacrifice Lamb and Goats to repent for sins. Hence one of the title's for Jesus being the Lamb of God.
Nicalis is a _publisher_ not a dev, but the sins they (still) commit still stand
You’re telling me they yet haven’t learnt after that blunder?
@@kjldfsklsdflk to this day? Absolutely not, the games they publish are _still_ for sale, so that tells me they are still stealing ip from developers, no matter how beloved they are.
To anyone wondering original Cave Story dev is Pixel,,, And he made original Cave Story that's freeware on itchio, unlike Cave Story+ that's absolutely not worth to buy (better pirate it really)
@@ScrapsThePaperCraftCat Got it for free through epic lol
I'm surprised Nicalis ran out of different versions of Cave Story to release
I'm a big fan of cave story, i'm sad that of ALL the Comanies that the rights could've gone to when the creator gave them up, why Nicalis? they've been trolling us cave story fans for years now with fake sequels. (Edit: wow, I did not expect this comment to get this many likes!)
Cave story paved the way for indie games like Undertale, and yet not many know about it. The game is criminally underrated
@@Spiney09 I don't know if that's true. Cave Story was a hit years before Undertale but Undertale was a proof of concept in adapting an entirely different game.
Cave story story, Cave story RPG, etc etc..
@@OdaSwifteye indie games as a whole struggled to take off before cave story. Cave story helped indie games become as mainstream as they are now, by showing that one guy totally could make a great game. It’s not the only factor obviously, but it really helped.
@@JacobeeVa not gonna lie Cave Story RPG would be pretty sick imo.
12:25 “Forced vacation days”, I’m just imagining their boss just telling a employee to “Go on vacation NOW” 😂
YOU ARE GOING TO RELAX AND YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT!
@@patientzero8130NOW GO ENJOY THE COOL SUNLIGHT
"You should go on vacation, NOW!"⚡️⚡️⚡️
“You look tired, go take a break.”
“But I feel fine boss…”
“NO WORK, BREAK NOW.”
I have an odd mention here by the name of Moon Studios. They created a series by the name of Ori And The Blind Forest/Ori And The Will Of The Wisps, the latter being a game I love to death and was extremely well recieved. But somewhat recently I read a very convincing article on them that showcased the two founders to be unprofessional asswipes that ran through their talented employees like toilet paper. Just knowing that alone taints my love for that game; knowing that the many artists that worked on it were abused by the people they thought would be a good studio.
In the early days of Will of the Wisps, many players noticed that many game mechanics were largely ripped off of Hollow knight, like some characters and charms system(they were called spirit pieces or smth), and the devs answered such questions really agressively. Like, it's understandable that Ori & HK are rival games of similar genre(apart from the fact that HK is more combat-based, while Ori games are parcour-based), but such blatant ripp-off is a super strange move from Moon Studios
I do agree with your whole comment saying that good game was published by bad people but I can't with that toilet humor in the middle
@@user-rt6qe2go3q weird that ori ripped off a game that didnt exist at the time of release.. Doom ripped of Cod Vibes
@@snintendog Ori Will of the Wisps released 2020, 3 years after Hollow Knight in 2017
@@user-rt6qe2go3q I'm sorry but wtf is this point. Hollow Knight is not the only metroidvania my dude. There are plenty of games with similar systems that came after or even before.
Funny that cult of the lamb has a halo
@@chrislv9332 I mean if you consider how the game starts and where it CAN head to...
If you know about the...cult like parts (There are a LOT of spoilers, hence my vagueness)... yea it's really ironic.
@@sci300768 The game "Cult of the Lamb" has cult-like elements. Very interesting information.
eh yea but nicalis made the isaac repentance physical so i forgive em
should've talked about videocult, the only hate i've seen towards them is game critics saying Rain World is too hard (probably because the game puts you on the bottom of the food chain and simulates an entire ecossystem)
Game to hawwd😢😢
The fact they saved rain world from adult swim games’ closure long before it was even considered
@@kitestar for some reason it still says "adult swim games" when you boot it up lol
@@ssslugrrcatt yeah, must be a decision made on videocult’s part
@@ssslugrrcatt I LOVE RAINWORLD I AM SO SOSOSOSOSOSOOSOSOS EXCITED FOT GHE NEW DLCC CARAAGAGSHHDHFHGURGOJÜE2R
Surprised to see no mention of ConcernedApe, dev of Stardew Valley outside of the mention in the Cult of the Lamb section cause he's an indie dev and Stardew Valley is such a good game and is even mod friendly so people have been able to make their own custom content for the game.
Something I can really say about ConcernedApe is the guy responds quickly to support. Had a problem and got a response the same day.
To be fair, Concerned Ape is Quintessentially the Solo Dev that many aspire to be
He was working a day job while he developed the game and apparently his wife stepped in saying he should go into dev Full time while she more or less took the weight of expenses like Bills and such.
Same! And ConcernedApe is another case where it's clear he cares about Stardew, which makes all the difference with a fanbase and the quality he's consistently put out
@@livingreverie5951 Now that's a strong woman right there.
ConcernedApe was mentioned in his previous video discussing individual famous/infamous game devs
Dude, Massive Monster and Aggro Crab are the best dev teams out there. Their entire shtick is "The fans wanted this, so we did it. Here's some extra stuff we wanted to do as well."
Aggrocrab even got rid of lulubuu when he got called out for catfishing
And remember people Cult of the Lamb is one of the few games to have the legendary sex update
What about ULTRAKILL? Steam commenters bombarded the game with negative reviews, citing it had no sex, so PITR added an official mod which gave the game Bluetooth support for certain....toys.
masive monster made the sex update
have you ever seen such a thing?
Nope, and it's absolutely hilarious.
This is why i love massive monster sm XD
The sapling's developer also did
As a TF2 player I can say I appreciate that someone was able to do what Valve could not
When is sex 2 update dropping?
Euphoric Brothers: Can you feel your heart burning? Can you feel the struggle within? *YOU CANNOT KILL ME IN A WAY THAT MATTERS.*
IM NOT FUCKING SCARED OF YOU
@@Frogman920 Also Euphoric Brothers: *LET'S PUT A STUPID ASS VEIN TEXTURE ON EVERYTHING!*
@@WolfofFrost Really, wtf were the Euphoric brothers thinking while making garten of banban.
@@Frogman920 I don't know. They're also super toxic towards any kind of criticism, similar to how Calobi is with Our Drawings
@@WolfofFrosttoday i will make a remote model
30 DUODECILLION POLYGONS
Also, Cult of the Lamb narratively-wise it’s a action folk horror comedy too.
Horror?
@@Its_A_Real_Goose Seemly and most undeniably yes. If you and some other self-proclaimed fans, somehow don’t see the red and black (these two colors used in religious and folk horror stories) throughout its cover art, the game itself, and it’s marketing. Then, I really don’t know why you and others aren’t surprised?
Also, the main storyline and (one user points out) aesthetically does meant to play it both seriously and scary. While most every else is meant to be funny and action-ey.
@@Chadjr2009 the game is not scary and is not supposed to be, you're saying the game is horror because it's red? What are you, a bull?
@@Its_A_Real_Goose Just because it's not scary doesn't make it not horror. Horror is a genre.
@@fishbrain9591 yeah, but it's not horror
Fun fact the goat from colt was originally a fanmade character is quite fun to see that they add something the community loves so much to the game
actually!! the goat was a concept for the playable character of cotl!!
Then there are Indie Game Studios like Hello Games that went from Most Hated to Loved with No Man's Sky. Wouldn't be surprised if they picked up another award for their constant game support and free DLC.
It's honestly one hell of a redemption arc.
@@michaelgum97 The only redemption arc in video games that I'm aware that is even close to No Man's Sky would be Final Fantasy XIV. From the WORST mistake Square Enix ever released, to their most succesful and valuable title ever, with just one director change (well, the team behind too) and a meteor to the in-game world, to nuke it and redesign EVERYTHING. They are pretty transparent too, most of the time, and their social media interactions are on point.
@@lenlimbo We dont see a lot of those, because most of the time it takes a dev to actually come out and say "We really fucked this up, how can we fix it?" Instead of just running off with all the money, or just silently turning a game from 2/10 to 5/10 like a certain Fallout game with a certain 76 in the title....
Probably better to specify "Publishers" when you use a thumbnail of Cave Story. The developer(s) of Cave Story are pretty screwed by Nicalis's nonsense.
Honorable Mention: New Blood. they published a bunch of indie fps games like dusk, amid evil, fallen aces and especially ultrakill along side also publishing faith the unholy trinity and super galaxy squadron
@@funnydotyes New Blood is my favorite studio as of now. All of their games are bangers, they are pretty friendly with their community and they love to meme to the point that they put dick jokes made by their favorite youtuber on their Steam store pages.
I was just thinking about ultrakill.
4:50 is when the sponsorship ends
@@poseidonthe1st why did i read this after watching the full sponsor
Ever heard of sponsorblock?
Thanks!
Great... they never put it in the first or second minute of the video because at exactly 2-3 mi nutes we had opened the comment section thus missing the occsional *pop* from the comment
0:13 id recognize team cherries logo anywhere!!!
I cant lie it's sad how u didn't mention how the cult of the lamb team made a tweet about how they would add "the reproductive process" if they got to a certain amount of followers
Community : Can we have have seg update *joke*
Massive Monster: Ok next update is seg update
> See Massive Monster
> See the Lamb
> Click video
> Wait patiently until Cult of the Lamb/Massive Monster mentioned
> Go absolutely crazy
> Click off the video
I laughed a little to hard to this
Me but add team cherry
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Silk song doesn't exist. It's a shared fever dream everyone had.
Now massive monster is doing a cult of the lamb wedding, in fur suits.
@@Voided-gone13 as the should 😎
i swear next thing i know they'll announce their own fucking real life city and start sacrificing people (as they should)
Dunno if anyone has said this yet:
Hollow Knight fans are (or, have been) going through what we Metroid fans did with Prime 4.
Not to say I haven't followed suit myself. I'll have to admit, I have yet to play Hollow Knight at all. But I digress.
If Silksong is still absent beyond the speculated time of late Fall this year (so I've seen/heard), I'd give it another two years for that prime (no pun intended) 7-year absence.
Tf2 has this problem too the whole community is brainrotted from a lack of proper updates for 7 years
Tf2 has this problem too the whole community is brainrotted from a lack of proper updates for 7 years
I would compare it more towards Cuphead. The game went through a long production period and took forever to release. It’s still a great game, but it still went as long.
@mantis638 Oh, right! I forgot that also took a long time to make. Although it's funny to think that the highly anticipated and soon-to-be successful games took/take the longest to make.
(It's like they put genuine care into making it...)
@@mantis638
It was so long really because of the animations and art style, with them drawing every. Single. Frame by hand and then scanning these frames.
That is an insane task for any team, let alone an indie team that's also limited in budget.
Small correction because slander to the grandpa of indie games is treason of the highest order:
Nicalis did not make Cave Story, it was made by Daisuke Amaya over the course of a few years and released for free, whereas Nicalis bought the rights to it and made remasters and updates
even despite project moon's extreme jank in terms of everything outside of their games, everyone loves kjh anyway cuz of the jank
Even the games have jank, but it's the lovable kind of jank
@@jolecaes2517 yep lmao
@@manicflying1289 I was waiting for Project Moon to be mentioned... We're everywhere.
@@thatoneotheridiot3361 indeed we are
uh hey, sleeping agent here. did someone mention pm?
Learning that Team Cherry is just three people makes me feel somewhat more reassured about the lack of Silksong.
I'd rather that they spend their time perfecting their craft than shoving the game out early with bugs.
Fun fact, Re:Logic and Massive Monster have an indirect connection. That connection is Klei's game Don't Starve Together
Team Shanghai Alice, despite has a word ‘team’ it’s just one person, Jun’ya Ota. He has been an indie developer for 29 years, his leniency on copyright is one of the reasons what makes Touhou Project is successful, so successful the fanmade works are more popular than the official. They have been with us for decades on the internet but few people realized it.
yeah, one man is crazy, also his music makes me cry
Honourable mention: project moon. You see no PM haters because their games are such a specific masterpiece that they easily attract people who will become cult followers and are some of the most caring Devs to their fans
They cater to the fanbase to the point they will fire an artist from limbus company for being a feminist
@@NicoNicoNessieSub They work with actively feminist companies (Mili) and it is less they fired an artist, and more before they could make a corporate reply to the incels, the artist herself quit
@@NicoNicoNessieSub first of all, it's impossible to fire the artist right away because they're bound by the contract and the labour government will be on their ass if they did that. They actually waited until her contract over. Not to mention, the artist didn't want to stay in the company.
if anything, you should be wary of the people spreading the rumor and build a money fund for the artist. the artist NEVER receive the money. this is how i end up trusting pm more.
Honestly sad to see that one of the main devs that made TBOI (my favorite game of all time) is just downright horrible. At least Edmund is awesome!
Edmund is always gonna be goated in my eyes. He made the best roguelike game(to me).
Just to add something, relogic devs listen to their fans, and most content and changes in the game are suggestions from fans, thats what makes them an awesome team
project zomboid has a pretty chill community, the dev team seems that they really love their game and the community
That's because all the people complaining about their game moved on from slow decade waiting for npcs update they promised. All that's left is shills and devs teasing said chills with pictures for an update that would come out in two years lol
Should of put in behemoth as a good company due to how they keep updating their games like castle crashers and battle block theater years after release
Yeah I was looking for this comment! Steam updates for decade old xbox live arcade games is just wonderful. They rule
There were updates for Battle Block Theater?? I thought was a one and done entry!
@@michaelgum97it’s actually getting a dlc soon I think, or it was castle crashes I was thinking of
Oh yeah. It's pretty that they're doing it.
im inhaling lots of hopium and copium with CC getting a dlc, because i geniuenly hope it means there's gonna be a potential Castle Crashers 2 sometime soon. They DID made a new hominid game after years of silence after all. So maybe CC might get a sequel soon...
Personally, I would add "Freebird Games" to the most loved, purely due to the level of storytelling in their few games. Definitely worthy of their cult following.
Yes, I'm mainly pointing them out, solely because their games need more attention, and if more people experience the story, that would be great.
I'm also rewatching some playthroughs of the most recent game, and still get emotional because of it.
@@russmastermasterofrusses7463 shame they closed doors
@@KnightAster What do you mean?
@@KnightAster No??? They're still very active
Cult of the lamb devs also have that old school newgrounder DNA in them. they made flash games on newgrounds when I was still a child and thats where their entire company started
Name a sane person who doesn't like Larian or Supergiant?
So they are bad?
@@Gaymer53497 opposite.
I dont like them the games are just Meh at best.
Supergiant took an nose down after Hades 2
@@snintendogtrue pretty mediocre
It is a crime that you didn't mention "The Behemoth"
Other than this, great video!
Personally, what I think makes Re-Logic such a loved studio is how connected they are with their community, several features in the game are based of concepts, ideas or suggestions of fans, if not just, what the fans said they wanted.
The best example of this was the 1.4.4 update which was almost completely just qol changes and fan additions, on top of fresh new content too. New items, weapons, blocks, seeds, features, like, there was so much content added for a relatively small update (when compared to the likes of 1.4 or 1.3) that everyone had something to be happy about, not to mention how they are very attentive to feedback, always looking for ways to improve the game, even in things that may already be good.
Another great thing about them, is that they fully support modding, even integrating it as a part of the game (with tmodloader), that allowed hardcore fans to make huge projects to change the game on their own way, with some mods rivaling the vanilla game in how much content they have.
Them being clear with development also helps keep the fans excited and in the loop of what's to come, with things such as occasional spoilers or the monthly state of the game being a few examples.
They're always pushing themselves to make an already great game the best they can make it and that's a very respectable trait of them
did I mention I like terraria?
Heres an Honorable mention: Ninja kiwi
@@auseronreddit where does that go
Yes
@@leinahtanok3417it’s honorable, so loved
@@leinahtanok3417 really loved
man i hate dem they took red reign down and never reuploaded it anywhere else
5:54 yoooo that's my old animation!
"If you like games with awesome communities"
>proceeds to advertise a game whose community is so toxic that players will leak ACTUAL MILITARY DOCUMENTS just to win an internet argument.
Ok buddy, sure.
As a member of the Isaac community, Nicalis sucks for us too, so much so that it could've doubled the length of their segment in the video:
- The DLC for Isaac are more like paid updates, each one has to be gotten in sequential order, and these DLCs also contain bug fixes and balance changes for game content. The number of actual regular updates in the game's history is low for having existed for 10 years.
- The DLC Afterbirth+ was essentially made entirely by Nicalis, and promised official mod support along with its new content. On release day, it was an absolute mess, many of the items added were subpar, the new "Portal" enemy was unbalanced, and the major boss they added was essentially just the AI of already existing bosses held together with sticks and tape; it didn't even have an idle animation on release. The modding tools they promised were missing features the community would've wanted, and example mods they provided didn't even work.
- Recently they've been making public alpha tests for a free online co-op update (something actually decent for once?) but one of their alphas was for the wave-based alternate game mode, Greed Mode, which people generally disliked compared to the original game. One person datamined the code for the previous alpha's normal mode co-op, sharing their findings, and this was enough for the co-op alphas to stop, since "one person ruined it for everyone else".
Honorable mention: Midjiwan (the dev team behind polytopia). Not very known but the dev team is Amazing.
Gotta add my favorite "bad" game: Dragon Date.
Dev released a good demo, Project got fundet on Kickstarter, Dev abandoned the project because reasons, Dev promised it is not abandoned, Switching the Devs after full silenece and one announcement, still no update after 2 Years of switching Devs.
Almost 10 years and the Backers got nothing but one excuse after another.
Somewhere on a hard drive that still runs XP, I still have my original freeware installation of Cave Story. It honestly pisses me off how poorly Nicalis handled Cave Story, that was THE original indie dev game that arguably kicked off a new age of indie games, it's legacy should be something so much better than crap ports and mismanagement causing it to fade from memory.
According to Edmund, Nikalis was fully in charge for the afterbirth+ DLC, that will give you a taste of how much they stink.
And yes, Nikalis are responsible for Delirium's existence, a boss so awfully made that even the repentance devs gave up on fixing it, thanks Nikalis!
Fntastic, more like Ctastrophic
Nice joke
A lack of mention of The Behemoth despite using music from them is the biggest sin seen in this video /j
The only bad thing about Terraria is its price on Nintendo Switch (But let’s face it, EVERY game is expensive on Switch).
Nicalis just leeched off studio Pixel's work.
Finally someone talks about the Nicalis Controversy. I have nothing against them, But it’s kinda sad they would do such horrible things.
9:05 This is something I wish a lot of game companies kept as a motive, but sadly only so few will actually follow it.
Its nice war thunder is free but then its packs cost around 10 bucks to 60 bucks.
They gotta make money somehow
once u play, u cannot be rehab afterward and u must FEED the snail
Be carefull with the snail!!!!!! remember my wooooooooords!
@@antuansr2528 too late (did feed the snail for p51d na20 and have 4.6k hour in game)
@@RX-782Gundam i dont even know how many hours i have on warthunder i only know that i played 14 hours every day for like a year or 2 and i only got to swed rank 7 lol
Hollow knight went from a game I heard very little about, to wanting to learn everything about it and being obsessed in a week, one of the greatest games I’ve played, up there with Bloodborne and bioshock 2
Dishonorable mention to Euphoric brothers, the creators of Garten of Banban
The lamb having a halo on their head in the thumbnail is very ironic
cult of the lamb is so good
PRAISE THE LAMB
@@ButtreMilk facts
Praise the lamb. Screw the bishops. Marry narinder. Sack ratau
@@Elijah_the_weyo_boy
I want Ratau to return. 😢
Another amazing indie studio is Coffee Stain, the guys behind goat simulator but better known for Satisfactory. Their community interaction, feedback response and attention to detail with the development and design of satisfactory is outstanding. They’ve even added a few community memes as in game easter eggs which is amazing. If you love factory building games, I’d highly recommend it.
I'm not sure I buy Team Cherry's explanation, and this is coming from someone who isn't a massive HK fan whose waiting with bated breath for Silksong (I enjoyed HK, it just wasn't my favorite metroidvania of all time). I can understand that dev logs aren't for everyone but the idea that dropping an occasional update is going to delay the game *F O R E V E R* just seems disingenuous when plenty of devs drop dev logs and get their product out in a reasonable amount of time. Even if it were true, updating the fans once or twice a year just seems to be a good faith gesture when you take as long as they have at this point. You don't even have to go into extreme detail, just a nod and a wink that things haven't gone terribly wrong.
how can we forget Project Moon, sleeper agent activated, wake up soldiers.
Shame DE the creators of Warframe didn't get a mention. The community is amazing and the devs stream regularly just to keep in touch with the community
@@potato_man_child Also the Conquera charity events every year. DE sometimes is a little confused, but they got the Spirit.
"If you like games with great communities, check out our sponsor...*War Thunder*."
Wouldn't exactly call the guys who regularly leak classified information and make Chernobyl look pristine in comparison a "great" community.
I totally forgot we're talking about STUDIOS and got insanely confused when Concerned Ape didn't appear in the video, especially since SDV was even mentioned in one of the entries.
@@xykros hee ho!
Hee ho!
Hee ho!
9:12 That transition was so smooth it made sense he was talking about Silksong
ReLogic: Next update (1.4.5) will be the last update
Player: Alright, when will we get 1.4.6 👀
ReLogic: "Never." *skips straight to 1.5.0*
Honorable mention: The Behemoth (creators of castle crashers, battleblock theater and alien hominid)
Coffee Stain Studio also one of the beloved indie games publisher/developer its the one behind goat simulator and satisfactory
One thing to note about BattleState or BSG is that they gave acess to the PVE mode to all of the Edge of Darkness users at the end. You can't really defend them about the whole lack of comunicattion to the community but In my opinion they are overall a "good" company and not even close to the bullshit that ubisoft is doing rn. You have to also add to all of this the fact that Escape from Tarkov is the top extraction shooter that didn't die/got lawysuited in less than a year and then you start to see why they do these things (exept the whole unheard drama, that was pure bullshit).
you should make a video about small indie studios (1-4 people) that have made very impressive stuff like rain world having extremely impressive creature AI and ADOM that has extremely many things to do
I would personally give shout outs to Aether Studios, the company behind Rivals, and Team Reptile, who in terms of big releases do not have a bad game
Darn I was expecting Project Moon.
Same
lmfao
Project moon fans when they see “Indie game studio” in a UA-cam video:
Project moon mentioned!!
Thought they got cancelled for firing a random female employee because incells didn’t like that a male artist didn’t draw one of the characters in a bikini
The funny part about Re-Logic and Terraria is I think they genuinely believe themselves every time. Every time they put out a new update they go “okay, this’ll be the last one,” but then Ashley from the art team pipes up with a cool new idea and then they have to release another one.
@@belliebun4529 i prefer someone else’s analogy of relogic updates being like a drunk at the bar saying its their lest drink before heading out and then ordering more drinks
0:51 It’s payday fella’s
Mods play razormind by simon viklud thank you
Let's roll
@@King_Waturo rip :(
@@King_Waturo YEAHH!!! (jimmy is my main heister just wanted to tell)
You're missing Stardew Valley. Concerned Ape is a one man show on top of being indie... he truly is Indie. Yes I know he has a team nowadays but they prioritize patching Stardew, keep fixing bugs, adding new content, etc. While Eric does most(or all) of the developing, music compositions, sprite art and lore.
Eric also communicates with his fans all time and even wound up as a guest appearing in a couple Stardew youtubers' videos. Plus he's mod friendly
what about Yacht Club Games?
I thought they would show up in this video as well
They published cyber shadow, which isn't a very good game honestly, but other than that, i agree, they should've appeared as well
I’ll just drop this here: Aggro Crab seems like a cool studio. I like their games and general vibe.
Sniff sniff the Lamb’s wool.
Can't believe you didn't mention Concerned Ape from Stardew Valley (and upcoming Haunted Chocolatier) who continues to release free updates for a game that came out in 2016. He's only 1 guy who does this for the love and passion of his game.
Silksong when?
now now, take your copium meds
Gimme gimme I need cope meds
Never. No silksong for anyone
Nooooo
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
16:06 for those who want a better Cube World, Veloren is pretty great. Not on Steam, but it is free. Bit of a learning curve at first but once you get your footing you get some good momentum.
Dude… 6:09 I never thought that Massive Monster would be a game company that I remember, but after being a HUGE fan of Cult of the Lamb for a couple years and seeing the active dedication to the group?? I got MAD respect for them!!! The dedication to their franchise is crystal clear, and with that??? I would GLADLY play all their titles!!!! Keep up the good work guys!!!
Let's all take a moment to remember the pile of hot garbage that was digital homicide studios
Absolutely not, go stand in the corner and think about what you just tried to do.
@@Catilena1890 are we thinking of the the same studio?
@@FrostByte-soft Yep, and I had successfully bleached that out of my thoughts until you brought it up. Now in the corner. Now.
What are they anyway?
@@Elijah_the_weyo_boy They were a studio that published a bunch of asset flip/shovelware games on steam that were extremely badly reviewed. I think there was something about Valve having to step in because they were sueing the people that gave them bad reviews.
Im honestly more than fine with not getting any form of release date for silksong any time soon. Games are a crap ton of work and with only 3, the workload is 10x higher. I dont want any dates or potential developnent timelines, i just want something, ANYTHING, to see that silksong is even in development. It just really sucks to essentially be stuck in a purgatory with a game that im honestly really invested in. Im fine with even the smallest crumb, i just want that single crumb 😢
Robtop should be here too, hes such a chad
robtop is a single guy, not a game studio (multiple people)
@@ChloricTheProtogen pretty impressive creating a game with one person
He just copied the impossible game lol
@@sdkdb
and made it better, also he actually admitted he never knew what "The Impossible Game" was prior to creating this game
@junkyyard2273 he never said that. lol, stop lying
I would say an honorable mention has to be Kupo Games. If you don't know, that's the maker of the Epic Battle Fantasy series, which was previously on Flash, but has been ported to Steam and Mobile in the recent times. It's an amazing RPG with great music, and they interact with the community fairly often.
I hope my indie game becomes loved like these people
Can I have link?
Only one way to tell, godspeed
Oh it’s like really really early development
To sum it up it’s a mantis shrimp rougelite
@@The_real_monomon-v1v awesome excited
my honourable mention would be Digital Extremes, lots of active communication between the devs and the fanbase and the game they are most known for (Warframe) is free to play, going strong for 10+ years
Remember no first no bro fell off or any of that sort
@@auseronreddit first reply
1 reply in 2 hours?bro fell off
@@HammznotdagoatGET OUT!!!!
@@Hammznotdagoat4 days and no likes, do not talk again ma boy
@@S1ayer585. Idk
As a warthunder player, i laughed my ass of when u said that we have a good community
You shouldve added zeekerss to the video, the only bad reviews on steam are reviews to either tell you to stop looking at the bad reviews or just joke reviews
Gotta admit. I had no idea about any of that stuff regarding Nicalis. Cave Story was one of those little games I saw on the Wii Shop that was pretty cheap and I had a couple bucks left, it looked kinda fun, I liked the music I was hearing, and I thought I'd take a gamble. Turned out to be one of the most enjoyable games I'd ever played, and REALLY got me into indie games.
Sad to hear the company I got it from was shite, especially now after getting the 3DS version and such after years. Love the game, hate the owner, I guess.
I'd always kinda wanted more out of that title. Some continuation of plot or something. I always felt like Quote and Curly could have had more adventures, new places to explore, weapons to find. As a big fan of sprite-based games, it was right up my alley. And hey, if it became something more 3D, that's fine too (Curly's cute). It just had such a unique "world" to it (despite only seeing the one floating island). That lore could have been expanded on. I guess that's just the way of older games.
you sohuld've included daniel mullins.
Sort of shocked that Undertale or Pizza tower wasn’t mentioned here
Since both creators are beloved by the community along with many Au’s by its fans, and it says a lot