There are sooo many mice being released these times, that the most important thing to look for in a mouse rn is 100% the shape. They are all getting 4k, 8khz and the best specs now, that the shape, and build quality, should really be the only thing that decides our buying decision.
Most sensors and switches are similar or the same so I picked on shape and convenience. A local store let me try out the Zowie U2 to see how it fit my hand. Like a glove apparently lol. And the included charging dock/receiver sold me. It’s only 1k but I felt no real difference with the 4K ULX I used to have. I had the Sora V2 for a long time and it was great but my hand doesn’t miss it.
@ Probably lol. I’ve had a lot of luck with them and just settled on what felt the best. I never did try Pulsar. Will likely get their current newest one when my Zowie breaks.
I agree. I own an Endgame gear OP1 8k and it would definitely be way too skinny for a good amount of people I think. I have quite small hands with not very long fingers so the mouse works well for me. Another thing someone considering buying a mouse above 1k polling hz is the game they play and how new it is. I know when I tried playing Fortnite with a buddy of mine, using anything above 1k polling would cause insane stutters in game when moving the mouse left and right quickly. My pc is pretty good so I figure it can run higher polling rates (I have a Ryzen 9 7950x and Rtx 3080)
Yeah 8k is definitely gimmicky. I think the sweet spot is 1-4k polling hz depending on the dpi you use. I use 400 dpi and it barely even reaches 1k most times. I think someone who used 800-1600dpi should be going for a 2-4k polling hz mouse.
In a way. Even if you use low sensitivity, having a higher poll rate does help if you have to flick your mouse every so often. The fast movements take advantage of the poll rate
They won't make you better, but they will make improving your aim faster. Also, if you're on a 100g brick mouse, getting one of these and lowering your sens will 100% make you better.
I think the pulsar X2V2 & X2H are highly underrated. The only bad things about them both is QC issues and (on the black model) smudge issues on the coating.
I can't go back to using a mouse without a middle wheel lock function. It's become such a nice feature that it's down right annoying not to have it now.
@@TheDrunkenDudes Makes scrolling through pages a breeze. Very useful when you have a lot of information to get through or just need to scroll a lot. Better for looking up information basically. For gamers, if you're playing a game and also need to look through information quickly through a wiki. Though limited use in gaming, for documentation purposes, it's amazing.
@@MMmagze Its definitely not for everyone. I also tend to use heavier mice as well which is another reason why I pick the g502. I throw all the weights in.
OP1 8k for me. I much prefer how mechanical switches feel compared to opticals. The shape is also exactly what I was looking for in a mouse being similar to my favourite fingertip shape the X2V2 Mini which I also still use.
I bought an OP1 8k and swapped to the XM2w 4k mainly because of the shape being a little too small for my hands. Still a great mouse though and with a bungee it feels almost wireless.
@@o9omc Yeah the XM2w 4k or XM2 8k is amazing too, same specs and everything just different shape and no hot swapping unfortunately! There's just something about mechanical switches, they feel way better than any opticals. I have small hands and like to claw/fingertip my mice so the X2 and OP1 shapes are perfect for me.
The most used mouse (mice) by pro players is all about sponsorships - not necessarily what they would choose if they weren't paid. So statistics regarding who uses what in professional e-sports doesn't mean anything except which companies can afford the best players
Must be off since it doesn't make sense at all that it isn't faster than Maya X. Although the test result seem to be off no matter what since OP1 8k should have same click latency on 1k and 8k.
NGL, kinda annoyed by the current mouse market. All the fuss is around the mice with two side buttons. My Aerox 5 still seems to be one of the better ones out there for people who need more than all of these.
The numbers are off anyway, just check TechPowerup reviews and not these for latency test. Probably not even GX speed enabled here (and anyway it should be mentioned what mode was).
The viper mini is my favorite mouse and I literally just bought a dav3 hyper speed and the shape hurts my hand. I wish razer made a viper mini wireless that isn’t $250
I love Logitech, but my current one that's only a year old is starting to have major issues with latency and double clicking.... It's straight wired and I've had $15 dollar mice last waaayyyy longer.
I've been looking for a good vertical mouse that i can actually game on, but they all seem to suck, horrible sensors. And im poor so i cant just buy and try all of them, would love to see some of my favorite tech channels test some, hint hint.
never did like Razer products due to having bad QC experiences but they really hit it out of the ball park with the viper v3 pro. paired with a good pad like a saturn pro or a artisan this mouse is incredible.
8k polling is definitely worth it and a must have - so you can stop gaming and charge more often, which cuts the gaming time significantly so you can actually do something else. It also ruins the battery at an accelerated rate so your next late night mouse purchase is much easier to justify.🎉
actually good video, except picking hitscan hyperlight instead of new zowie releases. If you put there any of the new zowie mice this would be perfect video
Actually all nordic-3395 Lamzu models can be upgraded to the Crystal Wireless firmware and support the seperately purchased 8k dongle. Including Atlantis Pro (&mini), Thorn, Maya
i got the superlight2 glides insanely well for me idk why in ur vid it doesnt glide so far but glides rlly far for me xd rlly good mouse its deff reccomended
I’m so happy to see the Hitscan Hyperlight here 😄 I’ll buy myself soon too, I think. It will fight for my main with a ULX Competition. I do have mostly a fingertip grip, though. Tbh as a readily available everywhere larger safer mouse is easier to recommend to an average Joe so I understand why Viper topped the list here and not the Hyperlight. Hitscan seemed like really cool people when I emailed them, btw.
I would love a video about good mouses with a few extra buttons. I’m a big Warframe player and I’m having a hard time finding a mouse that I can key bind my 4 abilities and my jump and roll
Idk what to choose I’m debating between Pulsar X2H Mini & Scyrox V8, can someone tell me what’s the best out of these (price doesn’t matter, I like small & fast mices)
im using pulsar x2h mini atm and honestly im thinking to buy op1 cuz im also into small mouses and x2h mini is not a perfectly small mouse , is literally as wide as some medium/big mouses
@ I just searched about OP1, it looks good but unfortunately it’s wired only I forgot to mention that I wanted wireless mouse it just feels more comfortable to me without wires unless I’m not gaming
Having bought the mamba wireless, and 2 razer viper V2 pros, as much as I love them, I am never buying a razer mouse again until they fix the wheel issues. it becomes completely unusable after just a couple of months.
I would go with the discounted Viper V2 Pro at that point. It's going for about $99 now. I'm planning to go pick it up tomorrow lol my G305 has the double-click issue.
Op1 8k or g pro x superlight 1? Both are 80eur or hitscan hyperlight for 97eur shipped without dongle. I play with 800dpi i dont think i need more than 4k polling
Logitech has now started selling an upgraded PRO LIGHTSPEED RECEIVER dongle for $29. Once you select the superlight 2/2 dex on the right hand side just below the 'add to cart' there's an option to add a Headset and the new Pro receiver dongle for 'Better 8k performance' according to Logitech. Haven't seen anyone mentioning it though. They hide it well. Will you be trying it out/getting it in? I'm curious if the latency will improve.
hey frank what do u think of the attack shark r3 and the r6 i dont have 100$ to spend on a mouse, so im stuck at 60$ which is the price of these mouse where i live
I actually just got the viper V3 (NOT PRO) having the wired version is actually better specs, as long as you don't mind the wire it's even lighter and has far less input delay.
I just bought a 15G weight for my G502X Plus. I hate hate hate this smaller and lighter mouse trend. It's like everyone suddenly has weak tiny hands. I need more than just two side buttons on a mouse as well.
No, you don't need to at all. Superlight 2 is a top-tier mouse. The only reason I would personally switch is if I found a better shape among other better features on another mouse.
Not sure if it is in the comments, too many :D Is it any list specific for left hand players? Only VAXEE has one for left hands (it is fine any like the Logitech with exchange buttons) Great thanks for all the videos.
There are sooo many mice being released these times, that the most important thing to look for in a mouse rn is 100% the shape. They are all getting 4k, 8khz and the best specs now, that the shape, and build quality, should really be the only thing that decides our buying decision.
Most sensors and switches are similar or the same so I picked on shape and convenience. A local store let me try out the Zowie U2 to see how it fit my hand. Like a glove apparently lol. And the included charging dock/receiver sold me. It’s only 1k but I felt no real difference with the 4K ULX I used to have. I had the Sora V2 for a long time and it was great but my hand doesn’t miss it.
Could not agree more!
You would be surprised how bad some sensors are when tested with robots.
@ Probably lol. I’ve had a lot of luck with them and just settled on what felt the best. I never did try Pulsar. Will likely get their current newest one when my Zowie breaks.
Software or lack of needing software is also important to me. IIRC the Pulsar doesn't need software?
Think EGG XM2 8k also deserved a mention in the OP1 8k segment for people who want a bit wider mouse.
I agree. I own an Endgame gear OP1 8k and it would definitely be way too skinny for a good amount of people I think. I have quite small hands with not very long fingers so the mouse works well for me. Another thing someone considering buying a mouse above 1k polling hz is the game they play and how new it is. I know when I tried playing Fortnite with a buddy of mine, using anything above 1k polling would cause insane stutters in game when moving the mouse left and right quickly. My pc is pretty good so I figure it can run higher polling rates (I have a Ryzen 9 7950x and Rtx 3080)
Naw
God loves you all and has a plan for your life
Used the previous video in this series for my mouse purchase, happy to see this series of yearly mouse recommendations continue.
God loves you all and has a plan for your life
We still acting like 8k polling is worth it??
Yeah 8k is definitely gimmicky. I think the sweet spot is 1-4k polling hz depending on the dpi you use. I use 400 dpi and it barely even reaches 1k most times. I think someone who used 800-1600dpi should be going for a 2-4k polling hz mouse.
Unless you’re playing 3200 dpi on a 480hz+ monitor, 8k is pointless. Even at that echelon, the additional smoothness is marginal.
In a way. Even if you use low sensitivity, having a higher poll rate does help if you have to flick your mouse every so often. The fast movements take advantage of the poll rate
1k is the sweetspot according to optimum. Only thing you're getting by going higher than that is less battery life. @@korrakinTech
It lowk is
My toxic trait is thinking any of these mice will make me better at FPS games.
Same😂
They won't make you better, but they will make improving your aim faster. Also, if you're on a 100g brick mouse, getting one of these and lowering your sens will 100% make you better.
@Evan-xs8ts i got the pulsar xlite v3es right now. Messed around in kovaaks but now I don't have the time to play like that anymore.
If you’re coming from a shitty office mouse yes if you already have a good gaming mouse then no
I'm looking at superlight 2 I've got a 110g mouse atm 👀@@Evan-xs8ts
I think the pulsar X2V2 & X2H are highly underrated. The only bad things about them both is QC issues and (on the black model) smudge issues on the coating.
I love them too, but they came out in 2023.
@@randomfrankp x2h v3 came out this year?
Scyrox v8 is just a better version for less money.
Not me literally looking for blackfriday deals and bro just uploaded this vid
Fnatic maya x is my choice. Feels great, good price, and completely solid mouse overall.
Holy crap my boys got featured!
One rumour about scyrox ive heard that its lamzu in disguise...
I can't go back to using a mouse without a middle wheel lock function. It's become such a nice feature that it's down right annoying not to have it now.
Why do you need that
@@TheDrunkenDudes Makes scrolling through pages a breeze. Very useful when you have a lot of information to get through or just need to scroll a lot. Better for looking up information basically. For gamers, if you're playing a game and also need to look through information quickly through a wiki. Though limited use in gaming, for documentation purposes, it's amazing.
@@Umadbro681Then have a mouse for office and one for gaming
@ theres a lot of benefits to locking wheels in games bug it adds weight, theres glitchs, certain game tecs, and other advantages.
@@MMmagze Its definitely not for everyone. I also tend to use heavier mice as well which is another reason why I pick the g502. I throw all the weights in.
Great overhead shots and B-roll man. Nice touch matching the colours and stuff 👏🏻
I really need to update my mouse, I'm still rocking a CORSAIR Glaive PRO. Wired mouse gang!
Literally just thinking yesterday that I wanted this video from you. Thank you!!
OP1 8k for me. I much prefer how mechanical switches feel compared to opticals. The shape is also exactly what I was looking for in a mouse being similar to my favourite fingertip shape the X2V2 Mini which I also still use.
I bought an OP1 8k and swapped to the XM2w 4k mainly because of the shape being a little too small for my hands. Still a great mouse though and with a bungee it feels almost wireless.
@@o9omc Yeah the XM2w 4k or XM2 8k is amazing too, same specs and everything just different shape and no hot swapping unfortunately! There's just something about mechanical switches, they feel way better than any opticals. I have small hands and like to claw/fingertip my mice so the X2 and OP1 shapes are perfect for me.
What about the endgame xmw2 4k?
It weighs 60 grams and people are crying about it😂
Really Nice
That was a great colab and a great video!!!
The most used mouse (mice) by pro players is all about sponsorships - not necessarily what they would choose if they weren't paid. So statistics regarding who uses what in professional e-sports doesn't mean anything except which companies can afford the best players
Hell yeah ive been waiting for this to come out
GX Speed mode on or off for the OP1 8k latency test?
Must be off since it doesn't make sense at all that it isn't faster than Maya X. Although the test result seem to be off no matter what since OP1 8k should have same click latency on 1k and 8k.
can do latency test with gx speed
@ferusic2463 it could make sense seeing his latency includes pre travel and the maya x has an extremley little amount of it but who knows
Looking for a new mouse pad if you have any recommendations. Keep up the good work Frank
So glad to see boardzy on here !
learning about the hitscan in this video just saved my crisis of wanting a viper mini wireless but refusing to pay 400
ordered instantly. thank you
Hi Frank. I just subscribed and look forward to your videos. Paul from Paul's Hardware says Hi.
NGL, kinda annoyed by the current mouse market. All the fuss is around the mice with two side buttons. My Aerox 5 still seems to be one of the better ones out there for people who need more than all of these.
I think there's a typo on the Endgame Gear OP1 click latency number?
Not that I see, what are you referring to?
@@randomfrankp Probably because of the font and the . being hard to see.
@@Krymms yup that's it, didn't full screen so didn't see, my bad (also the sudden change in decimal places confused me a bit)
The numbers are off anyway, just check TechPowerup reviews and not these for latency test. Probably not even GX speed enabled here (and anyway it should be mentioned what mode was).
What mic are you using?
I currently use the viper v2 pro is it still good or should I upgrade to the v3 pro
Which extended mousepad are you using?
Awesome video featuring some GOAT 🐐 reviewers!
Great video and awesome list of mice!
Thanks for the shoutout, very much appreciated ❤
Of course!
love this crossover 👍
4:39 What happened to the Sprime pm1
They went MIA 8 months ago lol
@@randomfrankp oh damn no wonder the mouse has been out of stock for so long lol thought i was an interesting mouse
i am definitely getting the Lamzu x Fnatic Maya 8K, looking like a pretty a good mouse and quite a good price
its amazing i have it. Other tests are showing it has the lowest sensor latency too on top of the best click latency shown here
I bought it after having used the Razer Viper V3 pro for a little while, genuinely a massive shape improvement in my opinion
@@Frozoken where you see the sensor latency test?
@andisetiawan567 snowflakedb
The click latency is so damn fast on my mouse I just think about clicking but it has already happened.
No Final Mouse ULX ?
What mousepad are you using in the video?
I have the Viper Mini and would like to get the DAV3H, but I have never used that shape. How much do the shapes differ?
Completely different.
Dav3 (no matter what version unless it's the bad mini) will feel way larger and annoyingly bulky in all likelihood.
i find the viper mini too small in the width. that's why im going for a slightly larger mouse but not medium to large.
@@syedrehanfida try a maya or maya x
The viper mini is my favorite mouse and I literally just bought a dav3 hyper speed and the shape hurts my hand. I wish razer made a viper mini wireless that isn’t $250
Got the Razer Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed, definitely the king of ergo mouse for now. Super love it.
Curious how you feel about the Viper V3 Pro vs the Viper Mini SE
Should I get Lamzu Atlantis OG or Ninjutso sora v2
I feel like the VXE Mad R Major needs to be on the list if the Scyrox V8 is here.
A bunch of goats. Really nice to see Jakeu on here
What scale are you using?
No Finalmouse??
What are your thoughts on the zowie wireless mouse
do you think the endgame gear xm1 or xm1r in 2024 or would that not be good
I love Logitech, but my current one that's only a year old is starting to have major issues with latency and double clicking.... It's straight wired and I've had $15 dollar mice last waaayyyy longer.
Same. I've got a wireless pro Logitech and I'm getting latency and double click issues. It's so annoying
"hate all you want, facts are facts" great content as always @ randomfrankp !
I've been looking for a good vertical mouse that i can actually game on, but they all seem to suck, horrible sensors. And im poor so i cant just buy and try all of them, would love to see some of my favorite tech channels test some, hint hint.
you can buy things, test them and return them for free
never did like Razer products due to having bad QC experiences but they really hit it out of the ball park with the viper v3 pro. paired with a good pad like a saturn pro or a artisan this mouse is incredible.
8k polling is definitely worth it and a must have - so you can stop gaming and charge more often, which cuts the gaming time significantly so you can actually do something else. It also ruins the battery at an accelerated rate so your next late night mouse purchase is much easier to justify.🎉
actually good video, except picking hitscan hyperlight instead of new zowie releases. If you put there any of the new zowie mice this would be perfect video
Any thoughts about VXE Mad R? 🤔
what do you think about the wlmouse sword x?
Gonna have to get the MAYA x!
I think the Aagaz S1-O is actually a really good mouse and its under half the price of all other mice with the same specs
i needed this 3 days ago 😭😭😭😭
Just broke the scroll wheel on my Logitech G502 HERO after 5 years of service... I think it`s finally time to upgrade!
bro rly dropped this 2 days after i buy my new mouse 😭
what did you get?
Whats Nice?
@@ragingsilver glorious model o 2 mini wireless, pretty happy with it so far
@@nugzeez2146yeah I got my super light 2 pro 2 days ago too, it's decent but I play on console so it's kinda laggy, I'll switch to pc soon
Just send it back
Maya X (non fnatic) comes stock with 8k dongle
Correct, I’m referring to the regular Maya.
why is the timing so perfect
Should definitely make a best budget mouse video 😅
Actually all nordic-3395 Lamzu models can be upgraded to the Crystal Wireless firmware and support the seperately purchased 8k dongle. Including Atlantis Pro (&mini), Thorn, Maya
i got the superlight2 glides insanely well for me idk why in ur vid it doesnt glide so far but glides rlly far for me xd rlly good mouse its deff reccomended
Deathadder v3 hyperspeed is my main, viper v3 pro was good, but not my shape :P
What’s the keyboard?
I’m so happy to see the Hitscan Hyperlight here 😄 I’ll buy myself soon too, I think. It will fight for my main with a ULX Competition. I do have mostly a fingertip grip, though.
Tbh as a readily available everywhere larger safer mouse is easier to recommend to an average Joe so I understand why Viper topped the list here and not the Hyperlight. Hitscan seemed like really cool people when I emailed them, btw.
any thoughts on the steel series aerox 9?
Yeah it came out 3 years ago
I would love a video about good mouses with a few extra buttons. I’m a big Warframe player and I’m having a hard time finding a mouse that I can key bind my 4 abilities and my jump and roll
Good timing, im looking to upgrade from 5-6 year old Final Mouse Ninja Air58, looking to go wireless, mainly fps games (Valorant, CS2, etc)
I was just about to buy a new one, then this video dropped
Suggest to go on r/mousereview much better
I went for the Superlight 2, the sensor is peak
Idk what to choose I’m debating between Pulsar X2H Mini & Scyrox V8, can someone tell me what’s the best out of these (price doesn’t matter, I like small & fast mices)
im using pulsar x2h mini atm and honestly im thinking to buy op1 cuz im also into small mouses and x2h mini is not a perfectly small mouse , is literally as wide as some medium/big mouses
@ I just searched about OP1, it looks good but unfortunately it’s wired only I forgot to mention that I wanted wireless mouse it just feels more comfortable to me without wires unless I’m not gaming
@@TREPLE they have wireless aswell
@@rakuzan7467 oh cool will check it out
X2H better clicks, better build quality. Scyrox lighter weight and 8k polling. It's just a clone of the X2H.
What do you think about Asus Rog Harpe Ace Aim lab Edition or Asus Rog Harpe Ace Extreme?
That cup on the mousepad gave me flashbacks and anxiety.😅
Please help me I’m planning to buy, Lamzu atlantis mini champion edition or sora v2? And why?
Got an X2H Mini for $40 on black friday, pretty solid mouse although a bit small for my hands
You need to make list on best mouses with infite scroll such underappreciated feature
What about new xm2w 4k from endgame?
Having bought the mamba wireless, and 2 razer viper V2 pros, as much as I love them, I am never buying a razer mouse again until they fix the wheel issues. it becomes completely unusable after just a couple of months.
basilisk way better
Yep. Razer mouse longevity is garbage. I won't waste my money on one again.
What keyboard is he using? 16:10
G502 has yet to be topped imo
Literally all of these absolutely s*** on the g502 lmao
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good to know these are the best of 2024 as we'll soon enter 2025 in a months time 😯👍🤯
Some of the mice ain't even the best mouse in 2024.
What do you think of the Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed, as a bit of a cheaper choice?
I would go with the discounted Viper V2 Pro at that point. It's going for about $99 now. I'm planning to go pick it up tomorrow lol my G305 has the double-click issue.
@ I’m jus a bit broke and i can find a v3 hyperspeed for ~£45
If you want a budget Viper v3 pro just buy ATK X1 pro, trust me its much better than the v3 hyperspeed, but if you can afford the v3 pro go for it.
logitech G pro x superlight 1 or lamzu thorn ? Palm grip
Op1 8k or g pro x superlight 1? Both are 80eur or hitscan hyperlight for 97eur shipped without dongle. I play with 800dpi i dont think i need more than 4k polling
OP1 8k?
best shape I've ever tried.
Logitech has now started selling an upgraded PRO LIGHTSPEED RECEIVER dongle for $29. Once you select the superlight 2/2 dex on the right hand side just below the 'add to cart' there's an option to add a Headset and the new Pro receiver dongle for 'Better 8k performance' according to Logitech. Haven't seen anyone mentioning it though. They hide it well.
Will you be trying it out/getting it in? I'm curious if the latency will improve.
There's already another scyrox mouse on the way, the V6 which is based on the Gwolves HTS+
hey frank what do u think of the attack shark r3 and the r6 i dont have 100$ to spend on a mouse, so im stuck at 60$ which is the price of these mouse where i live
Im getting Fnatic x Lamzu MAYA 8K , changing my Razer V2 Pro ( had mouse wheel issues had to RMA)
20:48 I am at her have the old design it looked way way way better
I actually just got the viper V3 (NOT PRO) having the wired version is actually better specs, as long as you don't mind the wire it's even lighter and has far less input delay.
That doesn't exist there is not viper v3 wired
I just bought a 15G weight for my G502X Plus. I hate hate hate this smaller and lighter mouse trend. It's like everyone suddenly has weak tiny hands. I need more than just two side buttons on a mouse as well.
Ninjutso Sora V2 kills them all !
Xlite v4?
Less than 10 buttons? WTF? Nobody’s learning piano these days, right?
should i really take back my gpro superlight 2 after upgrading from the pulsefire haste ?
No
No, you don't need to at all. Superlight 2 is a top-tier mouse. The only reason I would personally switch is if I found a better shape among other better features on another mouse.
Lol nah why? The only reason why u should bring it back is if you don’t like the shape, its still one of the best mouse there is
Not sure if it is in the comments, too many :D Is it any list specific for left hand players? Only VAXEE has one for left hands (it is fine any like the Logitech with exchange buttons) Great thanks for all the videos.