There are sooo many mice being released these times, that the most important thing to look for in a mouse rn is 100% the shape. They are all getting 4k, 8khz and the best specs now, that the shape, and build quality, should really be the only thing that decides our buying decision.
Most sensors and switches are similar or the same so I picked on shape and convenience. A local store let me try out the Zowie U2 to see how it fit my hand. Like a glove apparently lol. And the included charging dock/receiver sold me. It’s only 1k but I felt no real difference with the 4K ULX I used to have. I had the Sora V2 for a long time and it was great but my hand doesn’t miss it.
@ Probably lol. I’ve had a lot of luck with them and just settled on what felt the best. I never did try Pulsar. Will likely get their current newest one when my Zowie breaks.
Yeah 8k is definitely gimmicky. I think the sweet spot is 1-4k polling hz depending on the dpi you use. I use 400 dpi and it barely even reaches 1k most times. I think someone who used 800-1600dpi should be going for a 2-4k polling hz mouse.
In a way. Even if you use low sensitivity, having a higher poll rate does help if you have to flick your mouse every so often. The fast movements take advantage of the poll rate
I agree. I own an Endgame gear OP1 8k and it would definitely be way too skinny for a good amount of people I think. I have quite small hands with not very long fingers so the mouse works well for me. Another thing someone considering buying a mouse above 1k polling hz is the game they play and how new it is. I know when I tried playing Fortnite with a buddy of mine, using anything above 1k polling would cause insane stutters in game when moving the mouse left and right quickly. My pc is pretty good so I figure it can run higher polling rates (I have a Ryzen 9 7950x and Rtx 3080)
I think the pulsar X2V2 & X2H are highly underrated. The only bad things about them both is QC issues and (on the black model) smudge issues on the coating.
OP1 8k for me. I much prefer how mechanical switches feel compared to opticals. The shape is also exactly what I was looking for in a mouse being similar to my favourite fingertip shape the X2V2 Mini which I also still use.
I bought an OP1 8k and swapped to the XM2w 4k mainly because of the shape being a little too small for my hands. Still a great mouse though and with a bungee it feels almost wireless.
@@o9omc Yeah the XM2w 4k or XM2 8k is amazing too, same specs and everything just different shape and no hot swapping unfortunately! There's just something about mechanical switches, they feel way better than any opticals. I have small hands and like to claw/fingertip my mice so the X2 and OP1 shapes are perfect for me.
I've been looking for a good vertical mouse that i can actually game on, but they all seem to suck, horrible sensors. And im poor so i cant just buy and try all of them, would love to see some of my favorite tech channels test some, hint hint.
Hitscan hyperlight and op1 8k are the bangers for me. OP1 click polling at 8k even if sensor is 1k along with the faster click tech make it worth the wire and the hitscan hyperlight has been my viper mini replacement being close enough and wireless 40g
I’m so happy to see the Hitscan Hyperlight here 😄 I’ll buy myself soon too, I think. It will fight for my main with a ULX Competition. I do have mostly a fingertip grip, though. Tbh as a readily available everywhere larger safer mouse is easier to recommend to an average Joe so I understand why Viper topped the list here and not the Hyperlight. Hitscan seemed like really cool people when I emailed them, btw.
I can't go back to using a mouse without a middle wheel lock function. It's become such a nice feature that it's down right annoying not to have it now.
Not sure if it is in the comments, too many :D Is it any list specific for left hand players? Only VAXEE has one for left hands (it is fine any like the Logitech with exchange buttons) Great thanks for all the videos.
I actually just got the viper V3 (NOT PRO) having the wired version is actually better specs, as long as you don't mind the wire it's even lighter and has far less input delay.
NGL, kinda annoyed by the current mouse market. All the fuss is around the mice with two side buttons. My Aerox 5 still seems to be one of the better ones out there for people who need more than all of these.
Having bought the mamba wireless, and 2 razer viper V2 pros, as much as I love them, I am never buying a razer mouse again until they fix the wheel issues. it becomes completely unusable after just a couple of months.
Idk what to choose I’m debating between Pulsar X2H Mini & Scyrox V8, can someone tell me what’s the best out of these (price doesn’t matter, I like small & fast mices)
im using pulsar x2h mini atm and honestly im thinking to buy op1 cuz im also into small mouses and x2h mini is not a perfectly small mouse , is literally as wide as some medium/big mouses
@ I just searched about OP1, it looks good but unfortunately it’s wired only I forgot to mention that I wanted wireless mouse it just feels more comfortable to me without wires unless I’m not gaming
I would go with the discounted Viper V2 Pro at that point. It's going for about $99 now. I'm planning to go pick it up tomorrow lol my G305 has the double-click issue.
Mz1 wireless still my main, for comfort similar narrowness that im looking for is op1we. Wouldnt mind a lighter stock mz1 without the weight sliding gimmick and software
Must be off since it doesn't make sense at all that it isn't faster than Maya X. Although the test result seem to be off no matter what since OP1 8k should have same click latency on 1k and 8k.
The most used mouse (mice) by pro players is all about sponsorships - not necessarily what they would choose if they weren't paid. So statistics regarding who uses what in professional e-sports doesn't mean anything except which companies can afford the best players
No Darmoshark? I'd like to see how darmoshark compares with the other brands.. I own one and it's been great so far, super cheat I won't have any regrets either. But I don't have the means or resources to test and compare it with others. So if possible to see it compared in the future?
Op1 8k or g pro x superlight 1? Both are 80eur or hitscan hyperlight for 97eur shipped without dongle. I play with 800dpi i dont think i need more than 4k polling
The viper mini is my favorite mouse and I literally just bought a dav3 hyper speed and the shape hurts my hand. I wish razer made a viper mini wireless that isn’t $250
The numbers are off anyway, just check TechPowerup reviews and not these for latency test. Probably not even GX speed enabled here (and anyway it should be mentioned what mode was).
I would buy the V3 PRO but it doesn't have the additional 2 buttons like the Viper Ultimate I have atm which was perfect for me before it broke :,( I really long for a 4 macro mouse comeback
what about lefties ? There is nothing like the Asus Pugio II yet. They place all the extra buttons on the left, they should make it double-sided so everyone would be happy
Curious that you didn't included the G502 X lightspeed in the list, it has key features besides a low latency in wireless connection and a free spinning scroll wheel.
No, you don't need to at all. Superlight 2 is a top-tier mouse. The only reason I would personally switch is if I found a better shape among other better features on another mouse.
I have the DAV3 Pro and I stopped using it because of the software. It's absolutely horrible and annoying. Never ever will I buy a Razer product again.
I never recommend Razer, mainly cause their software is just bad, why do I have to install all this software and make an account just to change my settings?!? All of the other mice are either all hardware based, or their software is extremely lite.
if you want to use the entire functionality you do. Other mice do a great job by either enabling all their features via analog on the device itself or a lightweight program that allows me to customize every facet of the mouse.
I'm still rocking the razer deathadder just for the shape of the mouse. I can't find another mouse that feels like it. Oh nice site at the end with the mouse shapes!
There are sooo many mice being released these times, that the most important thing to look for in a mouse rn is 100% the shape. They are all getting 4k, 8khz and the best specs now, that the shape, and build quality, should really be the only thing that decides our buying decision.
Most sensors and switches are similar or the same so I picked on shape and convenience. A local store let me try out the Zowie U2 to see how it fit my hand. Like a glove apparently lol. And the included charging dock/receiver sold me. It’s only 1k but I felt no real difference with the 4K ULX I used to have. I had the Sora V2 for a long time and it was great but my hand doesn’t miss it.
Could not agree more!
You would be surprised how bad some sensors are when tested with robots.
@ Probably lol. I’ve had a lot of luck with them and just settled on what felt the best. I never did try Pulsar. Will likely get their current newest one when my Zowie breaks.
Software or lack of needing software is also important to me. IIRC the Pulsar doesn't need software?
We still acting like 8k polling is worth it??
Yeah 8k is definitely gimmicky. I think the sweet spot is 1-4k polling hz depending on the dpi you use. I use 400 dpi and it barely even reaches 1k most times. I think someone who used 800-1600dpi should be going for a 2-4k polling hz mouse.
Unless you’re playing 3200 dpi on a 480hz+ monitor, 8k is pointless. Even at that echelon, the additional smoothness is marginal.
In a way. Even if you use low sensitivity, having a higher poll rate does help if you have to flick your mouse every so often. The fast movements take advantage of the poll rate
1k is the sweetspot according to optimum. Only thing you're getting by going higher than that is less battery life. @@korrakinTech
It lowk is
Used the previous video in this series for my mouse purchase, happy to see this series of yearly mouse recommendations continue.
Think EGG XM2 8k also deserved a mention in the OP1 8k segment for people who want a bit wider mouse.
I agree. I own an Endgame gear OP1 8k and it would definitely be way too skinny for a good amount of people I think. I have quite small hands with not very long fingers so the mouse works well for me. Another thing someone considering buying a mouse above 1k polling hz is the game they play and how new it is. I know when I tried playing Fortnite with a buddy of mine, using anything above 1k polling would cause insane stutters in game when moving the mouse left and right quickly. My pc is pretty good so I figure it can run higher polling rates (I have a Ryzen 9 7950x and Rtx 3080)
Naw
I think the pulsar X2V2 & X2H are highly underrated. The only bad things about them both is QC issues and (on the black model) smudge issues on the coating.
I love them too, but they came out in 2023.
@@randomfrankp x2h v3 came out this year?
Fnatic maya x is my choice. Feels great, good price, and completely solid mouse overall.
Great overhead shots and B-roll man. Nice touch matching the colours and stuff 👏🏻
Holy crap my boys got featured!
One rumour about scyrox ive heard that its lamzu in disguise...
Literally just thinking yesterday that I wanted this video from you. Thank you!!
OP1 8k for me. I much prefer how mechanical switches feel compared to opticals. The shape is also exactly what I was looking for in a mouse being similar to my favourite fingertip shape the X2V2 Mini which I also still use.
I bought an OP1 8k and swapped to the XM2w 4k mainly because of the shape being a little too small for my hands. Still a great mouse though and with a bungee it feels almost wireless.
@@o9omc Yeah the XM2w 4k or XM2 8k is amazing too, same specs and everything just different shape and no hot swapping unfortunately! There's just something about mechanical switches, they feel way better than any opticals. I have small hands and like to claw/fingertip my mice so the X2 and OP1 shapes are perfect for me.
Not me literally looking for blackfriday deals and bro just uploaded this vid
What about the endgame xmw2 4k?
It weighs 60 grams and people are crying about it😂
i am definitely getting the Lamzu x Fnatic Maya 8K, looking like a pretty a good mouse and quite a good price
its amazing i have it. Other tests are showing it has the lowest sensor latency too on top of the best click latency shown here
I bought it after having used the Razer Viper V3 pro for a little while, genuinely a massive shape improvement in my opinion
I've been looking for a good vertical mouse that i can actually game on, but they all seem to suck, horrible sensors. And im poor so i cant just buy and try all of them, would love to see some of my favorite tech channels test some, hint hint.
Hi Frank. I just subscribed and look forward to your videos. Paul from Paul's Hardware says Hi.
Hitscan hyperlight and op1 8k are the bangers for me. OP1 click polling at 8k even if sensor is 1k along with the faster click tech make it worth the wire and the hitscan hyperlight has been my viper mini replacement being close enough and wireless 40g
That was a great colab and a great video!!!
Hell yeah ive been waiting for this to come out
What about new xm2w 4k from endgame?
Got the Razer Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed, definitely the king of ergo mouse for now. Super love it.
Awesome video featuring some GOAT 🐐 reviewers!
I’m so happy to see the Hitscan Hyperlight here 😄 I’ll buy myself soon too, I think. It will fight for my main with a ULX Competition. I do have mostly a fingertip grip, though.
Tbh as a readily available everywhere larger safer mouse is easier to recommend to an average Joe so I understand why Viper topped the list here and not the Hyperlight. Hitscan seemed like really cool people when I emailed them, btw.
What are your thoughts on the zowie wireless mouse
Good timing, im looking to upgrade from 5-6 year old Final Mouse Ninja Air58, looking to go wireless, mainly fps games (Valorant, CS2, etc)
"hate all you want, facts are facts" great content as always @ randomfrankp !
Deathadder v3 hyperspeed is my main, viper v3 pro was good, but not my shape :P
bro rly dropped this 2 days after i buy my new mouse 😭
what did you get?
Whats Nice?
@@ragingsilver glorious model o 2 mini wireless, pretty happy with it so far
@@nugzeez2146yeah I got my super light 2 pro 2 days ago too, it's decent but I play on console so it's kinda laggy, I'll switch to pc soon
Just send it back
I can't go back to using a mouse without a middle wheel lock function. It's become such a nice feature that it's down right annoying not to have it now.
Not sure if it is in the comments, too many :D Is it any list specific for left hand players? Only VAXEE has one for left hands (it is fine any like the Logitech with exchange buttons) Great thanks for all the videos.
That cup on the mousepad gave me flashbacks and anxiety.😅
Which extended mousepad are you using?
I actually just got the viper V3 (NOT PRO) having the wired version is actually better specs, as long as you don't mind the wire it's even lighter and has far less input delay.
I think the Aagaz S1-O is actually a really good mouse and its under half the price of all other mice with the same specs
No Final Mouse ULX ?
love this crossover 👍
Got an X2H Mini for $40 on black friday, pretty solid mouse although a bit small for my hands
NGL, kinda annoyed by the current mouse market. All the fuss is around the mice with two side buttons. My Aerox 5 still seems to be one of the better ones out there for people who need more than all of these.
The click latency is so damn fast on my mouse I just think about clicking but it has already happened.
do you think the endgame gear xm1 or xm1r in 2024 or would that not be good
Having bought the mamba wireless, and 2 razer viper V2 pros, as much as I love them, I am never buying a razer mouse again until they fix the wheel issues. it becomes completely unusable after just a couple of months.
basilisk way better
Yep. Razer mouse longevity is garbage. I won't waste my money on one again.
Idk what to choose I’m debating between Pulsar X2H Mini & Scyrox V8, can someone tell me what’s the best out of these (price doesn’t matter, I like small & fast mices)
im using pulsar x2h mini atm and honestly im thinking to buy op1 cuz im also into small mouses and x2h mini is not a perfectly small mouse , is literally as wide as some medium/big mouses
@ I just searched about OP1, it looks good but unfortunately it’s wired only I forgot to mention that I wanted wireless mouse it just feels more comfortable to me without wires unless I’m not gaming
@@TREPLE they have wireless aswell
@@rakuzan7467 oh cool will check it out
X2H better clicks, better build quality. Scyrox lighter weight and 8k polling. It's just a clone of the X2H.
What do you think of the Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed, as a bit of a cheaper choice?
I would go with the discounted Viper V2 Pro at that point. It's going for about $99 now. I'm planning to go pick it up tomorrow lol my G305 has the double-click issue.
@ I’m jus a bit broke and i can find a v3 hyperspeed for ~£45
Less than 10 buttons? WTF? Nobody’s learning piano these days, right?
Mz1 wireless still my main, for comfort similar narrowness that im looking for is op1we. Wouldnt mind a lighter stock mz1 without the weight sliding gimmick and software
What scale are you using?
A bunch of goats. Really nice to see Jakeu on here
Just broke the scroll wheel on my Logitech G502 HERO after 5 years of service... I think it`s finally time to upgrade!
GX Speed mode on or off for the OP1 8k latency test?
Must be off since it doesn't make sense at all that it isn't faster than Maya X. Although the test result seem to be off no matter what since OP1 8k should have same click latency on 1k and 8k.
can do latency test with gx speed
@ferusic2463 it could make sense seeing his latency includes pre travel and the maya x has an extremley little amount of it but who knows
The most used mouse (mice) by pro players is all about sponsorships - not necessarily what they would choose if they weren't paid. So statistics regarding who uses what in professional e-sports doesn't mean anything except which companies can afford the best players
what do you think about the wlmouse sword x?
There's already another scyrox mouse on the way, the V6 which is based on the Gwolves HTS+
any thoughts on the steel series aerox 9?
Yeah it came out 3 years ago
No Darmoshark? I'd like to see how darmoshark compares with the other brands.. I own one and it's been great so far, super cheat I won't have any regrets either. But I don't have the means or resources to test and compare it with others.
So if possible to see it compared in the future?
Maya X (non fnatic) comes stock with 8k dongle
Correct, I’m referring to the regular Maya.
I went for the Superlight 2, the sensor is peak
Do mousepads matter? Or is there no noticeable difference
It matters. Better material = better experience and you get to choose the speed of them as well
No Finalmouse??
Yo where is the usual santa hat on the lamp??
Good call!
I was just about to buy a new one, then this video dropped
Suggest to go on r/mousereview much better
Op1 8k or g pro x superlight 1? Both are 80eur or hitscan hyperlight for 97eur shipped without dongle. I play with 800dpi i dont think i need more than 4k polling
Vxe R1 pro. Best 50 bucks ive spent on a mouse. Use it more then my gpro and lamzu maya. And i dont have to be gentle with it.
Bring back the MX518 shape and button layout.
Frank, can you bring us food down here? Your basement is getting cold and lonely.
What’s the keyboard?
I have the Viper Mini and would like to get the DAV3H, but I have never used that shape. How much do the shapes differ?
Completely different.
Dav3 (no matter what version unless it's the bad mini) will feel way larger and annoyingly bulky in all likelihood.
i find the viper mini too small in the width. that's why im going for a slightly larger mouse but not medium to large.
@@syedrehanfida try a maya or maya x
The viper mini is my favorite mouse and I literally just bought a dav3 hyper speed and the shape hurts my hand. I wish razer made a viper mini wireless that isn’t $250
i needed this 3 days ago 😭😭😭😭
I think there's a typo on the Endgame Gear OP1 click latency number?
Not that I see, what are you referring to?
@@randomfrankp Probably because of the font and the . being hard to see.
@@Krymms yup that's it, didn't full screen so didn't see, my bad (also the sudden change in decimal places confused me a bit)
The numbers are off anyway, just check TechPowerup reviews and not these for latency test. Probably not even GX speed enabled here (and anyway it should be mentioned what mode was).
I would buy the V3 PRO but it doesn't have the additional 2 buttons like the Viper Ultimate I have atm which was perfect for me before it broke :,( I really long for a 4 macro mouse comeback
There is NO WAY you didn’t put the XM2w in here. But you have the scyrox and the hyperlight😂
Thanks Frank!!!
20:48 I am at her have the old design it looked way way way better
The new ASUS ROG Harpe Ace Extreme should be on this list. It's expensive but it's fucking amazing...
OP1 8k?
best shape I've ever tried.
Ninjutso Sora V2 kills them all !
i cant decide between lamzu thorn 4k and pulsar xlite v3 mini/medium... relaxed claw grip 18x10 hands
why is the timing so perfect
jakeu collab?? that's so cool!
good to know these are the best of 2024 as we'll soon enter 2025 in a months time 😯👍🤯
Some of the mice ain't even the best mouse in 2024.
what about lefties ? There is nothing like the Asus Pugio II yet.
They place all the extra buttons on the left, they should make it double-sided so everyone would be happy
4:39 What happened to the Sprime pm1
They went MIA 8 months ago lol
@@randomfrankp oh damn no wonder the mouse has been out of stock for so long lol thought i was an interesting mouse
Not me thinking you have the widest monitor ever
whens the amazon black friday week video happening
Are you too lazy to check for them yourself?
Curious that you didn't included the G502 X lightspeed in the list, it has key features besides a low latency in wireless connection and a free spinning scroll wheel.
What year did that get released in?
@@randomfrankp It was released in 2022 but in terms of cost-benefit it might fit in another top.
And if you watch the 2022 video I made, for that years mice, you’ll find it there. This is 2024
should i really take back my gpro superlight 2 after upgrading from the pulsefire haste ?
No
No, you don't need to at all. Superlight 2 is a top-tier mouse. The only reason I would personally switch is if I found a better shape among other better features on another mouse.
I want a DPI button on top. I use it as a mute button, and use the two side buttons as volume up/down.
I use my top button as a fire-mode switch. Sad that these mice don't have it.
I really need to update my mouse, I'm still rocking a CORSAIR Glaive PRO. Wired mouse gang!
Xlite v4?
I have the DAV3 Pro and I stopped using it because of the software. It's absolutely horrible and annoying. Never ever will I buy a Razer product again.
Jokes on you my office mouse is better, HAH!
That's amazing if it is. unless you were sarcastic
Office mice is actually cracked
WMO FTW
G502 has yet to be topped imo
Literally all of these absolutely s*** on the g502 lmao
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What keyboard is he using? 16:10
Still waiting for ANY company to remake a modern logitech G600 :(.
I never recommend Razer, mainly cause their software is just bad, why do I have to install all this software and make an account just to change my settings?!?
All of the other mice are either all hardware based, or their software is extremely lite.
You don’t need to, at all.
Yeah, something in the Razer software randomly disables my up arrow key. No idea why.
if you want to use the entire functionality you do.
Other mice do a great job by either enabling all their features via analog on the device itself or a lightweight program that allows me to customize every facet of the mouse.
@@jasonhurdlow6607 its weird how much it embeds itself into your computer, a software for a mouse should not be so invasive.
I'm still rocking the razer deathadder just for the shape of the mouse. I can't find another mouse that feels like it. Oh nice site at the end with the mouse shapes!
try a basilisk
Wish you would throw a mmo mouse or two on this list.
Anyone like me who prefer the Razer Orochi V1?
Anyone know a good alternative? For me, the size was perfect and I like my mice to be heavy.
not a single MMO mouse.... le sigh :/
Does anyone know what aftermarket skates can be used on the hitscan ultralight
Wahh Lamzu Maya X luk how she goes the lowest latency among other mice that what we want for a hardcore FPS gamer. Will grab it for Christmas 🎄