this is my most favorite scene in the game, it shows heroism over rivalry, also, when Zack tastes the Apple/gift of the goddess. we all thought Genisis died/fainted. But He is awake. also I love that music much as I love Loveless. and then when he leaves Genisis ShinRa soldiers takes him to get punished. also I love that moment when Zack gets surprised about the letter, and lastly him reading the loveless' verse is what what I like about him
@darkheart407 He is taken by SOLDIER agents Nero and Weiss to Deepground and wanted to convince him to rebel against Deepground, he disagrees and seals himself in a cave, waiting for the moment to protect the world in Angeal's and Sephiroth's stead. In the secret ending to Dirge of Cerberus, he awakens and flies to out of the cave. It is unknown what happens to him after since there has been no information of what happens after DoC, but I assume that he is protecting the world as it's hero.
Hahaha! I too find it interesting that so many people (myself included) like this guy. I'm really not sure if I would like someone so energetic in real life, but I love him as a character! Part of it is probably that his optimism is such an important contrast to the dark events of the story.
Ravage GT, actually, it's like this: Sephiroth flies away Genesis gets captured Angeal becomes a hero (through Zack and Cloud) you know how he says, you have to embrace your dreams to become a hero? You'll get it. lol
it could be that aerith accepts that zack isn't receiving her letters, and so she stops sending them, thinking that she might be bothering him (or something like that)
It kind of feels as he’s mind blown that him and cloud were in the lab for 4 years (or traveled a total of 4 years). But can feel the upset and sadness when he yells out ‘what do you mean final letter?!’ Like she’s breaking up with him, and Zack doesn’t want that. Thus led for motivation for Zack to go to midgar and see aerith.
@MiztaSeoul It was the same copy he entrusted to protect Aerith when he left for Nibelheim four years prior. It was the last copy of Angeal along with Lazard.
@XxXLordPainXxX666 its like this lazard had part of angeal, sephiroth will or part of it , was pass to zack, and since hes dream was to eat an apple if a remember right he did it with zack, so in a way he fulfilled hes dream, the gift of the goddess to genesis would be hes 'pride as a SOLDIER', the impetus for his shift of values, which was the 'Gift of the Goddess' to Genesis.
@StrikeBrief !! I completely agree!! I was like OMFG its Yazoo and Loz! The 'older brother' part, the silver hair, and their voices are definite giveaways. Holy moley, indeed XD
many of anime characters looked alike - Zack looked like mine hero of hentai "words worth" Cloud looked like mine hero of "pigeon blood" e t. c.Kadj and Genesis are different persons
[--->cont.] Though sure, that didn't stop him from creating havoc in the living world, but then again Aerith also used her Great Gospel in AC and she was dead as well. But I don't think Hojo returned in DoC because the lifestream may have rejected his soul, but instead because he had the idea of uploading his data to the network precisely because he knew he was dying. It's just a shame Vincent didn't arrive to the Mako cannon some 15 minutes earlier or so xD
I can actually answer a few of those, and the most general answer is that a lot has been retconned over the years. Last question is answered by a combonation of the two - Aerith did save it by herself, using the souls of the Lifestream, who allowed her use. The Ancients worked together with the Planet. Hojo - as far as FFVII is concerned - did die before Sephiroth. However, the Lifestream may have rejected him due to his injecting Jenova's cells into himself, hence his reappearance in DOC.
I love the very last part of the scene, with the final lines of Loveless. It was so Nero and Weiss that found Genesis. Square-Enix never ceases to tease us fans. :D My sequel senses are tingling. :b Btw, I could not get the HQ scenes from your site to work in any media editing program. Is there a reason for this?
That was my first thought too - that's got to be Nero and Weiss. What a huge drumroll for the next sequel! God, I hope Genesis doesn't quote his way through it. :)
no it wasnt kadaj loz and yazoo. they were nero and weiss. the major antagonists of DoC. genesis is a part of the deepground soldier experiment of Hojo
It contradicts many factors present in the Compilation (Aerith meeting Hojo in the Lifestream when he wasn't even dead, Aerith being aghast when meeting Zack in the Lifestream though she clearly sensed his death) and it wasn't included in the FFVII Ultimania. Maybe, if they want to make it an official novella, they will include it in the newest version of the Ultimania. I think it's improbable. It'd still be lovely is they did write a novella from Aerith's POV.
Actually, Sephiroth was dead once Cloud threw him into the Mako Pit in the Nibel Reactor. With immence amount of Mako there, Sephiroth would have sustained Mako Poisoning as well as death. Of course, he was braught by the Lifesteam to the Northern Crator to heal the wound by Jenova's Meteor, and there he remains until VII.
Well, basically, it's quotes from the Godess Minerva. From what I've heard of it, it's a play with no ending, and it can be interpreted in many ways. With Genesis, he's looking for what is refured to as "the gift of the godess", the true interprestion of which is a mystery. So, Genesis assumes at first that "the gift of the godess" is JENOVA cells, which is why he goes after Zack and Cloud... I think that's about right. ^^;
Hojo was plenty dead after Aerith died. Aerith died not even mid-game, whereas Hojo died near the end of the game. Aerith had sensed Zack's death but had not exactly sensed Zack before meeting him - she was clearly in denial, and she wasn't sure it was him until he came around. Let's not forget her talks with someone who died BEFORE she did, like President Shinra, who clearly had a better grasp of how the Lifestream felt and looked. I think it's plenty canon.
so what exactly was the "gift?" and also, was the animal version of angeal his real self or another copy like Lazard? Does that mean Aerith had been sending out the animal to give letters to Zack? I've never played FFVII, but does Aerith ever find out what happened to Zack? Also, what happened to Cissneil?
I'll try and answer as many questions as possible. 1. I'm not sure 2. The animal/monster was (to me) a copy of Angeal and a dying Lazard took on the form. 3. No, She probably used a normal mail service (monitored by Shinra) 4. Most likely. And certainly once both meet again in the afterlife. 5. Nobody knows. Literally nobody. She just disappeared one day and 'poof' gone.
I also agree Hojo died before Sephiroth. It's not clear that we should assume Hojo is necessarily "alive" in DoC. Though it is possible his Jenova tainted soul was rejected I don't think he should be considered "alive" by opposition. He said in DoC: "I took it upon myself to distribute my data-- my mind, my knowledge, my inner being, across the worldwide network. (...) I survived in a virtual reality." [cont.--->]
"What do you mean last?" Rofl that was so funny, Aeris doesn't hear from Zack for 4 years yet writes him 89 letters and he's pertubed 'cause she claims this is his last.
The whole "brother" reference because they all call eachother brother in Advent Children Also listen to the english version, they're voices are done by the same actors as in Advent Children.
[--->cont.] But according to Lucrecia that's not the same as being alive, seeing as digital form of herself says to Vincent "this is me, but only in a sense. It is merely a reflection created with my remaining data. The real me crumbled away long ago." I think this is the same with Hojo, which means he must have definitely "died" long before the events of DoC. [--->cont.]
Yes cloud is drowsy with the mako effect and also he got stabbed by sepiroth and the reason y they r called monsters is because of what sepiroth did and they aren't actually monsters wings, but an angels wing also the people who have mako in them or even monsters will fade away into the life stream
Sephiroth became part of the lifestream at the end of final fantasy 7 after meter was destroyed by the shinra mana cannon and the holy materia. He was yanked out of the lifestream for ff advents children. Genesis however has been out of the lifestream twice and is still alive according to the secret ending of Dirge of Cerebus.
Good question... why are YOU watching this?! If you have something against the clip or anybody else here, then get out of here, no one has forced you to see the clip!
@DoggieAngel12345 the gift = Pride of a SOLDIER. just read on a finalfantasy wikia and search Minerva. Animal Version = Copy indeed. Aerith sending out the animal = actually she ask Tseng to give her 88 messages to Zack, the animal there was the only successful courier so the total is 89. Aerith knows Zack is Dead = Don't know 'bout that. Zack only says to Cloud when he is up. "When you see Aerith, Say Hi for me." Cissnei = shes on a rescue mission on Zack well it failed. damn i cried on ending.
No she knew he was alive, she just didn't know where, she knew when he died because she was an Ancient, and could here those voices of the dead, so she heard him when he died, that's when she knew he was dead.
well its kadji if i am not wrong if you had seen ff 7 advent children the guy on white/blue hair named kadji they had shown abit of his hair colour and the english dub of the show and this they are pretty same
@zeee7 At this point, I think Kadaj was too young, but it certainly sounded like Yazoo and Loz to me. And who else would say "Brother" quite like that? Holy moley. I was like....Waaaaaaat?
Not at all. Genesis don´t have anything to do with Advent Children. The two guys who take Genesis with, are Weiss and Nero. They are two soldiers from Shinra´s Deep Ground Devision. After all, Deep Ground is the enemy in FF VII: Dirge of Cerberus.
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This just reminds me of how Aerith's & Zack's Japanese voice actors are married.
My first final fantasy ever played. Hence why I love Zack he's one of my fav. Protagonist in history !
They need to remake this game on PS4... easily one of my favorite FF games.
They did
This scene is really emotional for me. Cant imagine how zack feels.
this is my most favorite scene in the game, it shows heroism over rivalry, also, when Zack tastes the Apple/gift of the goddess. we all thought Genisis died/fainted. But He is awake. also I love that music much as I love Loveless. and then when he leaves Genisis ShinRa soldiers takes him to get punished. also I love that moment when Zack gets surprised about the letter, and lastly him reading the loveless' verse is what what I like about him
I love how soft hearted Zack is. ;__; But yet he's strong. :'c
I love Genesis's voice :o
who watched or played this game and fall in love with it in 2017 like me :) like
I fell in love with it way before, It kind of got lost in my mind for a while. Replayed it in 2018, reminded me of how much I loved the game.
2019 here, just fell in love with this game
2015
2011
@darkheart407 He is taken by SOLDIER agents Nero and Weiss to Deepground and wanted to convince him to rebel against Deepground, he disagrees and seals himself in a cave, waiting for the moment to protect the world in Angeal's and Sephiroth's stead. In the secret ending to Dirge of Cerberus, he awakens and flies to out of the cave. It is unknown what happens to him after since there has been no information of what happens after DoC, but I assume that he is protecting the world as it's hero.
Hahaha! I too find it interesting that so many people (myself included) like this guy. I'm really not sure if I would like someone so energetic in real life, but I love him as a character! Part of it is probably that his optimism is such an important contrast to the dark events of the story.
for his love, for his friend and his pride. He become a legend TT.TT I cant accept the ending :(
Ravage GT, actually, it's like this:
Sephiroth flies away
Genesis gets captured
Angeal becomes a hero (through Zack and Cloud) you know how he says, you have to embrace your dreams to become a hero? You'll get it. lol
It's not Zack as Sephiroth. It's Genesis, Lazard, and Cloud that fulfills the dream.
The dead guy is Lazard who has become an Angeal copy. The dead 'dog' is an Angeal copy. Zack cried because they had to leave him too?
it could be that aerith accepts that zack isn't receiving her letters, and so she stops sending them, thinking that she might be bothering him
(or something like that)
Wow that chair is magic, it can take the weight of Genesis even when there is no one sitting on it!
Favorite video game all-time.
It kind of feels as he’s mind blown that him and cloud were in the lab for 4 years (or traveled a total of 4 years).
But can feel the upset and sadness when he yells out ‘what do you mean final letter?!’ Like she’s breaking up with him, and Zack doesn’t want that. Thus led for motivation for Zack to go to midgar and see aerith.
@MiztaSeoul It was the same copy he entrusted to protect Aerith when he left for Nibelheim four years prior. It was the last copy of Angeal along with Lazard.
is that a good or bad thing? the thought the graphics were great especially for a PSP game.
@XxXLordPainXxX666 its like this lazard had part of angeal, sephiroth will or part of it , was pass to zack, and since hes dream was to eat an apple if a remember right he did it with zack, so in a way he fulfilled hes dream, the gift of the goddess to genesis would be hes 'pride as a SOLDIER', the impetus for his shift of values, which was the 'Gift of the Goddess' to Genesis.
@StrikeBrief !! I completely agree!! I was like OMFG its Yazoo and Loz! The 'older brother' part, the silver hair, and their voices are definite giveaways. Holy moley, indeed XD
video games are a art damn it
He's determined to come back to her.
What a man.
So what happened to Genesis? Did he turn into kadaj or something?
of course not, in dirge of cereberus he appeared to be alive
Ohh. I never played dirge of cereberus, just watched the ff7 movie and thought they looked somewhat alike lol. Thanks
many of anime characters looked alike - Zack looked like mine hero of hentai "words worth" Cloud looked like mine hero of "pigeon blood" e t. c.Kadj and Genesis are different persons
I suggest you check out DOC again. Hojo wasn't physically alive in DOC, it was virtual version of himself in body of Weiss.
I love how Zack's taking care of all 3 of them XD He's so mature
He has changed throughout the start of Crisis Core till his death.
[--->cont.] Though sure, that didn't stop him from creating havoc in the living world, but then again Aerith also used her Great Gospel in AC and she was dead as well. But I don't think Hojo returned in DoC because the lifestream may have rejected his soul, but instead because he had the idea of uploading his data to the network precisely because he knew he was dying. It's just a shame Vincent didn't arrive to the Mako cannon some 15 minutes earlier or so xD
yes Zack, You are a HERO.
I can actually answer a few of those, and the most general answer is that a lot has been retconned over the years.
Last question is answered by a combonation of the two - Aerith did save it by herself, using the souls of the Lifestream, who allowed her use. The Ancients worked together with the Planet. Hojo - as far as FFVII is concerned - did die before Sephiroth. However, the Lifestream may have rejected him due to his injecting Jenova's cells into himself, hence his reappearance in DOC.
@MrJaxxie Thanks for the reply! I cried at the end too cuz I watched all the cutscenes and pretty much got the whole story.
Most video editors don't take mkv videos. You have to extra the mp4 our of the mkv, using mkvextract.
I love the very last part of the scene, with the final lines of Loveless.
It was so Nero and Weiss that found Genesis. Square-Enix never ceases to tease us fans. :D My sequel senses are tingling. :b
Btw, I could not get the HQ scenes from your site to work in any media editing program. Is there a reason for this?
That was my first thought too - that's got to be Nero and Weiss. What a huge drumroll for the next sequel! God, I hope Genesis doesn't quote his way through it. :)
im soo interested in Genesis' story.. i hope they go into more detail... VERY SOOOON!!
two questions for anybody who can answer 'em:
why is the 89th letter the last one?
and who are the two from the helicopter?
Genesis copies?
Because Zack was bathing in a green tube for 7 years while Aerith was sending letters to him. It's a synonym for getting dumbed.
no it wasnt kadaj loz and yazoo. they were nero and weiss. the major antagonists of DoC. genesis is a part of the deepground soldier experiment of Hojo
It contradicts many factors present in the Compilation (Aerith meeting Hojo in the Lifestream when he wasn't even dead, Aerith being aghast when meeting Zack in the Lifestream though she clearly sensed his death) and it wasn't included in the FFVII Ultimania. Maybe, if they want to make it an official novella, they will include it in the newest version of the Ultimania. I think it's improbable. It'd still be lovely is they did write a novella from Aerith's POV.
@JENOVA666 wrong loz and yazoo^^ but genesis has a small roll in ff DoC too ^^ in the secret ending^^
i love this song....
Actually, Sephiroth was dead once Cloud threw him into the Mako Pit in the Nibel Reactor. With immence amount of Mako there, Sephiroth would have sustained Mako Poisoning as well as death. Of course, he was braught by the Lifesteam to the Northern Crator to heal the wound by Jenova's Meteor, and there he remains until VII.
Well, basically, it's quotes from the Godess Minerva. From what I've heard of it, it's a play with no ending, and it can be interpreted in many ways. With Genesis, he's looking for what is refured to as "the gift of the godess", the true interprestion of which is a mystery. So, Genesis assumes at first that "the gift of the godess" is JENOVA cells, which is why he goes after Zack and Cloud... I think that's about right. ^^;
thanx
i actually didn't get it either until you said it
thanx!
Hojo was plenty dead after Aerith died. Aerith died not even mid-game, whereas Hojo died near the end of the game. Aerith had sensed Zack's death but had not exactly sensed Zack before meeting him - she was clearly in denial, and she wasn't sure it was him until he came around.
Let's not forget her talks with someone who died BEFORE she did, like President Shinra, who clearly had a better grasp of how the Lifestream felt and looked.
I think it's plenty canon.
@Sylvia25100 No, those two are Nero and Weiss. They're characters in Dirge of Cerberus
Great scene. And man, Nero and Weiss!
so what exactly was the "gift?" and also, was the animal version of angeal his real self or another copy like Lazard? Does that mean Aerith had been sending out the animal to give letters to Zack? I've never played FFVII, but does Aerith ever find out what happened to Zack? Also, what happened to Cissneil?
I'll try and answer as many questions as possible.
1. I'm not sure
2. The animal/monster was (to me) a copy of Angeal and a dying Lazard took on the form.
3. No, She probably used a normal mail service (monitored by Shinra)
4. Most likely. And certainly once both meet again in the afterlife.
5. Nobody knows. Literally nobody. She just disappeared one day and 'poof' gone.
I also agree Hojo died before Sephiroth. It's not clear that we should assume Hojo is necessarily "alive" in DoC. Though it is possible his Jenova tainted soul was rejected I don't think he should be considered "alive" by opposition. He said in DoC: "I took it upon myself to distribute my data-- my mind, my knowledge, my inner being, across the worldwide network. (...) I survived in a virtual reality." [cont.--->]
I couldn't help but laugh at how he picked up Cloud....anyway, nice jobs on the subs.
1:33 'You're.... Angeal, all along and wanted to guide me. If only I realised this sooner?' Is that Zack's surprised reaction?
"What do you mean last?" Rofl that was so funny, Aeris doesn't hear from Zack for 4 years yet writes him 89 letters and he's pertubed 'cause she claims this is his last.
I love the music in 2:33 ( under the apple tree )
the song is "under the apple tree"
5:22-5:23 cloud- weeee! free ride!
ok on a more serious note
aww i felt bad for zack hearin that it was aeris' last letter!
gah! if only he survivedd
After finish surge of Cerberus and watch the secret ending, I finally understand what the 2 last line meant
The whole "brother" reference because they all call eachother brother in Advent Children
Also listen to the english version, they're voices are done by the same actors as in Advent Children.
Awww aeris is been waiting for him
thats so cute maid me kinda cry
Not even close. You should give Dirge of Cerberus a shot... secret ending will shine light on that.
[--->cont.] But according to Lucrecia that's not the same as being alive, seeing as digital form of herself says to Vincent "this is me, but only in a sense. It is merely a reflection created with my remaining data. The real me crumbled away long ago." I think this is the same with Hojo, which means he must have definitely "died" long before the events of DoC. [--->cont.]
@BozkurTParaDise
Nope, Sephiroth isn't... he's alive still, they just didn't clearify that...
They see each other in the Lifestream.
@pinklover oh yeah!!! those guys.... so Genesis is that enemy of Vincent in the end????
Yes cloud is drowsy with the mako effect and also he got stabbed by sepiroth and the reason y they r called monsters is because of what sepiroth did and they aren't actually monsters wings, but an angels wing also the people who have mako in them or even monsters will fade away into the life stream
Sephiroth became part of the lifestream at the end of final fantasy 7 after meter was destroyed by the shinra mana cannon and the holy materia. He was yanked out of the lifestream for ff advents children. Genesis however has been out of the lifestream twice and is still alive according to the secret ending of Dirge of Cerebus.
so does any one knows what happens to angeal and genesis at the end? are they still alive?
I'm pretty sure its because they all share Jenova's (Mother's) cells; and in that way they are somewhat brothers
And so is the last chapter of Loveless written... I wonder what role Genesis will play in the future of the compilation.
is that kadaj and his brother at the end? :O
wait...Who/what stopped the degradation?Genesis should look like Angeal/Lazard...
The two "SOLDIERS" at the end are *SPOILERS* for DoC
wanna be spoiled even more? Genesis made an appearance in DoC.
those guys in final fantasy 7 that pursuit cloud at the very beggining arent the guys that take genesis?
(sorry for my english)
Good question... why are YOU watching this?!
If you have something against the clip or anybody else here, then get out of here, no one has forced you to see the clip!
the ones who took genesis was weiss and nero
@DoggieAngel12345 the gift = Pride of a SOLDIER. just read on a finalfantasy wikia and search Minerva. Animal Version = Copy indeed. Aerith sending out the animal = actually she ask Tseng to give her 88 messages to Zack, the animal there was the only successful courier so the total is 89. Aerith knows Zack is Dead = Don't know 'bout that. Zack only says to Cloud when he is up. "When you see Aerith, Say Hi for me." Cissnei = shes on a rescue mission on Zack well it failed. damn i cried on ending.
is it on the game dirge of cerberus
SO MANY TEARS
Zack, im gonna fulfill my dreams!! NOW I WILL STUDY HARD!!!!! who says VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS CANT INSPIRE SOME ONE TO STUDY HARDER????
No she knew he was alive, she just didn't know where, she knew when he died because she was an Ancient, and could here those voices of the dead, so she heard him when he died, that's when she knew he was dead.
Oh... where can I get that?
he's 19 at the beginning of the game, and then since four years past he was 23when he died
Really? i dont remember xD is it after u beat omega? i havent played DoC since it came out an i forgot everything xD
I have
what does that have to do with it?
6:24 i just noticed!!! thats Cloud enemy! on the last part of Final Fantasy Advence Children, thats the guy who transform into sephiroth!!!
what was the promise? i think i missed it.
Does anybody know who were the people who took Genesis?
no, in the instruction manual credits, they're credited as weiss and nero, villains from Dirge of Cerberus
when zack put down genesis with others
i thought they were his sex doll collection o_o
And that a certain "Red Devil" shows up back at the end.
^_~
*CoughGenesiscough*
who were the two characters in the end that no one could see their face? Maybe they are the younger brothers of genesis?
well its kadji if i am not wrong if you had seen ff 7 advent children the guy on white/blue hair named kadji they had shown abit of his hair colour
and the english dub of the show and this they are pretty same
crisis core its the first of all
@zeee7 At this point, I think Kadaj was too young, but it certainly sounded like Yazoo and Loz to me. And who else would say "Brother" quite like that? Holy moley. I was like....Waaaaaaat?
Not at all. Genesis don´t have anything to do with Advent Children. The two guys who take Genesis with, are Weiss and Nero. They are two soldiers from Shinra´s Deep Ground Devision. After all, Deep Ground is the enemy in FF VII: Dirge of Cerberus.
ehehehe tifa whats up, remember that shinra trooper that died when sephiroth was in nibleheim? that was me.
because Cloud inherited the S cells while the sephiroth trio in AC are remnants of sephiroth making them somewhat brothers
since he was in the mako reactor cell he then got mako addiction which is what cloud has here
Oh, thanks.
ok thx that you wrote in german^^ and now the secret ending of ff DoC makes sence ^^
where does aerith die???? im confused