I bought the Kreig jig and It's pretty flimsy. I like the one in your video. It's looks sturdier and setting the Spring Angle is straight forward where the one I got has and adjustment that moves the entire piece in which the molding rests upon rather then just a block that moves in or out accordingly. Whats the make on yours?
The tape measuring is needless, if you have a good measuring tape. It will have the measurement on the housing (of the tape measure itself). So you can accurately measure it in one go. i love that jig, so going to get one!
Agreed. I watched This Old House, and it was totally worthless. Whipped thru the cuts with no explanation, and then said the only way to do an inside cut was to cope cut the molding, sand it, etc. I think that jig is sweet.
I love the saw, though. Also people, it might sound stupid but check the walls for electrical cables and pipes, before you drill or nail anything. I drilled through a live wire.
What do mean do the comparison? They are two different products. The jig he is using holds the crown in place, what you're talking about just measures spring angle and wall degrees. Let me know what I am missing? I would like to install crown and do it right.
or you could just use the existing marks that are on most miter saws which is bevel at 33.85 deg and table at 31.62 deg thats what they are for crown joints to cut them flat instead of standing them up and backwards its easy
I see a lot of people just spitting out those numbers for flat saw crown. You do realize that there are different spring angles for crown? One is 38/52 the other is 45/45 The angle you posted only works on 38/52 crown If the viewer has 45/45 crown it won’t work. 45/45 crown is flat cut at 35.26 and 30.00 ( big difference) There’s a difference between information and knowledge. This guy’s method is awesome and is the method most used by trim carpenters ( like me) The only time we flat cut crown is if it’s very wide.
Got a quick question. I just built my daughter a armoire type chifferobe and I was wanting to put crown molding around the top of it. Would that work since there will be no ceiling for it to touch?
+Ron Cunninham Hi Ron. That may be pushing it. Just install a tall fence on your saw, place your crown upside down with the proper spring angle, and clamp a straight board to the base of your saw where it meets the crown. The jig is great for quick small stuff, but not necessary. Just copy it large scale. Hope this helps. Gene
Really like your video, can you please tell me what size blade you are using? The blade my husband is using looks too big, taking too much of a slice out.....
Are you saying that if you don't use corner blocks, your joints won't open, if it is stain grade. My belief is that if it shrinks in one application it is going to shrink in the other one also.
Hello Earl. I may not have been real clear. It will shrink in both applications, but with paint grade you can hide the gap with caulk and then paint over it. Stain does not allow you this option. Gene:)
Viewers should understand that this jig is made for a spring angle of 45 degree. Crown molding comes in 38 and 52 degree spring angles as well especially crown that goes on the top of cabinets. The 45 degree fits flush against the top and bottom of the jig making it easy to hold in place. 38 and 52 degree spring angle does not.
Hello Earl, I like corner blocks to. I used them in our house. I have found if it is paint grade, then no problem. If it is stain grade, the joints will eventually open and can't be hidden with caulk. Gene
Dave Richardson Hello Dave. You are not going to like my answer but cutting into sheetrock and the opposite would be caulk depending on the situation. Ultimately it will look great. For inside corners couping would be your best bet. Gene
Inside corners should be coped to get a tight joint. You're making the assumption that your corners are all 90 degrees. If they are out by even 1 degree. you will have gaps that will look awful.
Mark Smith...No, what I'm telling you is fact. You don't need a bunch of caulk if you cut and cope the right way. Installing crown molding isn't rocket science. However, a coped inside joint will work even if the inside angle is +/- 2 or 3 degrees. No caulk is ever needed. And if you're putting up stain grade molding, you can't caulk and you're gap will show every time..
I've installed crown for years and have never seen a coped corner ever show a gap. In Michigan, our humidity varies tremendously, so your "perfect miter" will show ever time the wood expands or contracts. Simple matter of physics.
cut crown flat on saw....jig is making it far more more complicated....never have to move the saw if you cut it flat.......and crown can't roll out of position.....
and also you have to measure on wall where crown is sitting.....walls are never straight, but that is way I measure crown too and it works phenomenal, measure the whole house and one trip to saw to cut whole house.....no back and forth for every piece
Thank you so much for this video. One more skill to add to my woodworking.
🤯 I am so glad I found your channel!!!! THANK YOU !!
You are so welcome!
I’ve never seen this jig great video 👍🏾
I bought the Kreig jig and It's pretty flimsy. I like the one in your video. It's looks sturdier and setting the Spring Angle is straight forward where the one I got has and adjustment that moves the entire piece in which the molding rests upon rather then just a block that moves in or out accordingly. Whats the make on yours?
nice video - thanks!
Thanks for you explication
Made this seem so easy
The tape measuring is needless, if you have a good measuring tape. It will have the measurement on the housing (of the tape measure itself).
So you can accurately measure it in one go.
i love that jig, so going to get one!
Thank you! other video's on here were useless! Your video was good!
+jim morrison Thanks Jim.
Agreed. I watched This Old House, and it was totally worthless. Whipped thru the cuts with no explanation, and then said the only way to do an inside cut was to cope cut the molding, sand it, etc. I think that jig is sweet.
Good afternoon from Venezuela ... excellent videos I would like to know, How do you make that frame? thank you very much
I love the saw, though.
Also people, it might sound stupid but check the walls for electrical cables and pipes, before you drill or nail anything.
I drilled through a live wire.
"SAWSET PROTRACTOR" is the most accurate miter finder out there. No Math. No gimmick.
Do the comparison.
What do mean do the comparison? They are two different products. The jig he is using holds the crown in place, what you're talking about just measures spring angle and wall degrees. Let me know what I am missing? I would like to install crown and do it right.
@@poofypoopy8838 Go to sawset.ca and see how to install crown molding videos.
or you could just use the existing marks that are on most miter saws which is bevel at 33.85 deg and table at 31.62 deg thats what they are for crown joints to cut them flat instead of standing them up and backwards its easy
lol! easy to set a mitre saw at 33.85 and 31.62? instead of just locking it at 45? ok then... you do that...
Will kill your saw blades lot faster when you cut them flat
I see a lot of people just spitting out those numbers for flat saw crown.
You do realize that there are different spring angles for crown?
One is 38/52 the other is 45/45
The angle you posted only works on 38/52 crown
If the viewer has 45/45 crown it won’t work.
45/45 crown is flat cut at 35.26 and 30.00 ( big difference)
There’s a difference between information and knowledge.
This guy’s method is awesome and is the method most used by trim carpenters ( like me)
The only time we flat cut crown is if it’s very wide.
Where buy this tool? Left and Right
Nice tip on measuring.
Melvin Yehnert Thanks Melvin. Gene
What do you charge per linear foot ?
Gene, We love to get you a free sample of our tape to demo
Got a quick question. I just built my daughter a armoire type chifferobe and I was wanting to put crown molding around the top of it. Would that work since there will be no ceiling for it to touch?
+Josh Wood High Josh. Yes, I place crown on cabinets all the time that don't touch a ceiling. Gene
Nice thank you
whats the widest crown moulding that I can cut using that jig on a 10inch mitre saw? I want to get 5 1/4 inch but that looks like it raises it a lot.
+Ron Cunninham Hi Ron. That may be pushing it. Just install a tall fence on your saw, place your crown upside down with the proper spring angle, and clamp a straight board to the base of your saw where it meets the crown. The jig is great for quick small stuff, but not necessary. Just copy it large scale. Hope this helps. Gene
Really like your video, can you please tell me what size blade you are using? The blade my husband is using looks too big, taking too much of a slice out.....
funniest comment ever because its serious
I think a three foot blade should just about do it.
Are you saying that if you don't use corner blocks, your joints won't open, if it is stain grade. My belief is that if it shrinks in one application it is going to shrink in the other one also.
Hello Earl. I may not have been real clear. It will shrink in both applications, but with paint grade you can hide the gap with caulk and then paint over it. Stain does not allow you this option. Gene:)
Viewers should understand that this jig is made for a spring angle of 45 degree. Crown molding comes in 38 and 52 degree spring angles as well especially crown that goes on the top of cabinets. The 45 degree fits flush against the top and bottom of the jig making it easy to hold in place. 38 and 52 degree spring angle does not.
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in my country carpenters do it with out mitre saw and without a jig just sa regulaw carpenter saw.
THANKS DUDE!!!! the angle was killing me… I'm putting moulding under the eave of my house….
+Shedrick Fields Glad I was able to help
I love this guy but why do I hear his wife in the background yelling “Gene, your cod liver oil soup is getting cold!” 😂
Thanks. I try to tune that out.
amateur question.. why not just cut them at 45 degrees at the end after measuring your area or the length of the room?
GAPOWERade Hello GAPOWERade. That type of cut would give you a picture frame, flat plane. Gene
whats the name of the jib?
+Leroy & Lun-Ya Harris Bench Dog Crown Jig
If you use the corner blocks, you basically have to only make square cuts in most situations.
Hello Earl, I like corner blocks to. I used them in our house. I have found if it is paint grade, then no problem. If it is stain grade, the joints will eventually open and can't be hidden with caulk. Gene
wow in 2013 a real wooden crown molding was 61 cents a linear ft. now if you can find it it's over 3-4 dollars.
just buy some crown stops for your saw
You don't need the jig....just the pictures.
And what if your walls are not a true 45* like in older homes ???
Dave Richardson Hello Dave. You are not going to like my answer but cutting into sheetrock and the opposite would be caulk depending on the situation. Ultimately it will look great. For inside corners couping would be your best bet. Gene
Inside corners should be coped to get a tight joint. You're making the assumption that your corners are all 90 degrees. If they are out by even 1 degree. you will have gaps that will look awful.
Nick Huber a little dap will do yah hahahahaha
Only if you're a hack!!!
Nick Huber Yes, that's my immediate thought.
Our walls, are a bit of an unfunny joke.
Mark Smith...No, what I'm telling you is fact. You don't need a bunch of caulk if you cut and cope the right way. Installing crown molding isn't rocket science. However, a coped inside joint will work even if the inside angle is +/- 2 or 3 degrees. No caulk is ever needed. And if you're putting up stain grade molding, you can't caulk and you're gap will show every time..
I've installed crown for years and have never seen a coped corner ever show a gap. In Michigan, our humidity varies tremendously, so your "perfect miter" will show ever time the wood expands or contracts. Simple matter of physics.
hows your garden? www.monomanocycling.com/lander1.html I thought you might be interested in this website. Not about crown molding or gardening tho. T.
cut crown flat on saw....jig is making it far more more complicated....never have to move the saw if you cut it flat.......and crown can't roll out of position.....
and also you have to measure on wall where crown is sitting.....walls are never straight, but that is way I measure crown too and it works phenomenal, measure the whole house and one trip to saw to cut whole house.....no back and forth for every piece
God i hate that jig....so clumsy , there are so many better ways.
48’ x .61 is not $150 🤦🏾♂️ this poor guy doesn’t have clue. If you want to learn to cut crown skip this video