My Dad died, but videos like this honestly feel like i have internet dads that help me with my projects, its really comforting to know even though i missed out on a lot, i can still get fun, useful lessons from a cool dude who knows his stuff. Thanks.
Yours is the first video I saw when looking up how to add crown to existing cabinets. It is also the last video I'm going to watch - no need to look further. THANK YOU for such a great video and method!!
I've done cabinet installation for 30 years. This is the best tip ever. I have my kids crown job in front of me. Will use this without a doubt. Thank you thank you!
Amazing crown. But you know something I appreciate more than this tip? The respect that man has for his Dad. Well done sir. Thats worth more than any lottery. Appreciate all your videos
Another great video! I am a licensed GC and have over 40 years of construction experience, but I learn something every time I watch one of your videos. Excellent job! I love the system that you came up. BTW, you can use a pin nailer and you won't have to fill nail holes in the molding. Most of the professional cabinet installers I have subcontracted to use pin nailers and glue on crown molding and the cabinet trim. In some cases, with larger trim, they will us a full size finish nail like you did.
I remember years ago my wife wanted crown in our kitchen. I didn't know much about home improvement, but we had a book that listed steps for most common improvement tasks like crown installation. Each entry in the book had a 'difficulty rating', scored from 1 to 5. I remember crown was listed at 4.5 - very high difficulty. I thought, "what could be so hard about crown installation?" I didn't even own a miter saw, just a miter block and a hand saw. I am proud to say that after 4 weekends of work, I had zero crown installed and my marriage was almost at an end. I smartened up and hired a carpenter who did a far better job than i ever could have done, and in only a few hours time.
Lol yup the more you do reno the more you realize just how good and fast the pros are. And they have every tool. DIY is highly over rated for anything other than the joy of doing it yourself.
sounds exactly like our household. a common response i alwys give my wife is "sure i'll do it, but it will probbaly look like i did it..." i do encourage everyone to get in diy though, as it only gets better with practice, you just have to make that decision on which piece you want to look like practice... lol
I love , love, love this. I have to put crown up on my own cabinets and I will be doing this method. I'm glad I haven't done them yet and now I have your system to do it. Thanks for sharing this.
I'm never disappointed watching your videos. I have to admit that's a clever trick, I've seen it used on an old wardrobe piece of furniture we had in our home before but never put 2 and 2 together. I've been doing a whole house remodel due to flood damge on a 60 year old house, and I have to say, y'all have given me the spark to tackle most of this project through all facets of construction. I'm currently at the trim stage 9 months later, so this is a pretty useful idea for my cabinet installation that I'll be undertaking next week.
Great tips...for a more professional look instead of 3 1/16 reveal front of the cabinet use 7/8 as it will bring your crown out and line up with the front of the top of the doors. looks so much better!
Yes 7/8” works great! I like the fact your passing on your talent to your son, I have been doing the same for my son. In time they even teach us some easier ways to achieve things faster with same results! Peace to you and your family!
Block layer is a great site, I use it mostly for rafters. I didn’t know it had a tool for crown moulding, that’s a great tip. I’ll have to give it a more thorough look at some point.
This was the single greatest tip ever!! I’ve done the easy crown molding prior. But resent kitchen remodel had tall cabinets and vaulted ceiling. This modular idea work prefect and easy to see and get great cuts. Our crown was solid wood, stained and varnished. So not being able to fix with chalk I was apprehensive. But working table high and P2-10. I had zero gaps and perfect fits on straight and 45 degree corner cabinets. I did it with one 8’ section over 6 cabinets. Thank you !!! I
Hey just wanted to let you know , if you take strips of 3/4 poplar at an 1" or more on end and add them to the top of your uppers before you put the cabinets up you can use glue and or just cab screws with no had to attach then when your cabinet is up your (buildup) as we call it in the trade is what you would use as a nailer . Customers who are picky also xont really like to see all those screws inside the cabinet . And when you put your crown uo either piece by piece or pre assembled theres no gap from where the crown meets the face of the cabinet. If you noticed your going to have to go back and caulk your whole run where your assembly meets the cabinet the way you did it. An this isnt me being a keyboard warrior or hater just trying to pass on some helpful hints, i love watching your videos because my dad got me into carpentry and your videos hit home
Great video, this technique is beautiful. I install cabinets for a living. All this time I’ve been doing it the hard way.Installing my riser/nale strip and then cutting the crown to fit,on a ladder. Leaving the nail strip flat, bumping it out using it as a detail, form and function simply genius.
Great video. Crown has always been intimidating for me. I’ve done several ceiling crown jobs but only 2 sets of cabinets I fumbled my way through but next time I will be prepared to have a much smoother install. Beautiful work brother. Looks like you run a tight ship. I recently went on my own out of necessity my family keeps growing and so do the bills. Thanks for the free lesson it will definitely be something I will retain and help to give my family the financial freedom they deserve.
I have watched quite a few crown molding videos in the past having never attempted it yet and this is by far the most concise and easy to understand . Thank you very much thumbs up
I've been doing these things for over 20 years and this is no doubt one of my favorite channels. I know many of these things already but I love watching your video's because I'm always finding new and different ways to do things. Remember, there is always many different ways to do these things and the more tricks and techniques that you know the better your work will be
I consider myself pretty handy, however, I have never done crown molding before. I am about to put the finishing touches on the new kitchen I installed, and adding some crown molding to the high cabinets is going to bring this project to the next level. I have been doing a lot of research on youtube, and there are many great videos and professionals who have great tips on how to do this. However, your method is by far to most intuitive method on youtube! Building the whole assembly on the bench and then installing it in one go is brilliant! Thank you for sharing this with the world and with all of us DIYrs!
If only I'd seen this two years ago when I did the crown molding on the kitchen cabinets. Ugh, all the wasted time and material, and eventually the wife hired a handyman while I was on a business trip. Couldn't blame her, really. But when I finish our bookcases in our office I'll do this and it's going to look great. I'm subscribed now.
Trick I learned from my is put a little dab of white DAP on all the miter corners before painting them. It filled in any tiny imperfections and makes the moulding look seamless around the room. Love the video!
I’m New England we use a 2 part crown in most kitchens. One is 1x4 stock the same color as cabs/crown that gets nailed into the oak nailers that come with the cabs. The second is the actual crown that you set on the 1x because most people here want their crown to go up to the ceiling. I have done kitchens with the 1x where the customers ceiling was so off level that it was best to leave a gap and I have done some (but few) kitchens where they only want the crown. I personally really like the look of 1x then the crown all the way up to the ceiling. It also eliminates the dust and other gross dust that accumulates above top cabinets.
Great video! Love the nailer trick. To get rid of the chipping in your miters you need to throw a finish blade on that miter saw. Makes the painters job that much easier and makes you look that much better. Love your videos keep it up!
Love your videos! This one showing the miter angles for cutting! Omg I’m 54 years old and never knew that! No wonder the few times we’ve cut crown it was hard to get right!! Brilliant and love this prefab method! I will be a regular watching your videos! Thanks!!
I like the nailer technique, we have used hidden nailers for our crown but not an exposed nailer before. It does add an extra detail. Just a pointer on avoiding the notched frame on the cabinets if you use that method... just get matching scribe moulding for the cabinets and it is usually the exact thickness of that 1/4" space on side of cabinet and you just put it at the top of the cabinet on the side and then install the crown right to the corner, no need to notch (or install a nailer if you can get away with it on your cabinets but the extra hold power I like).
Great idea guys. Love how it’s modular.. Another option if you have room above the doors is to put a piece of scribe on the sides. To make up the difference of the face frame.
A trick I learned from doing crown molding nailers is If you bevel the nailer board that goes up flat against the wall 3-5 degrees on the inside where it won’t show, this will help insure that your nailer always sits flat against the wall just in case your drywall isn’t perfectly flat. I wanted to see how others was doing theirs and what looked the best since I’ve been doing it the same way you did here. I think this way still looks the best. Nice work Stud Pack!
Thank you, thank you! I used this method on my last kitchen, absolutely wonderful. Crown molding was always difficult for me this method is so much easier and better and looks wonderful!
Great video guys! Some other options available to combat the ear: If you are buying new cabinets, some manufacturers offer a finished side without the ear. A piece of same colored paneling left over (usually left over from the island) can be ripped down and glued and pin nailed on side. If it is a standard door, run a piece of same colored scribe molding from behind the ear to the back of the cabinet and wrap the crown around that.
I'm getting ready to put some up on my cabinets in my new house and I will definitely be using this method. Thanks for the video you earned a new subscriber today 😎
I love this technique and we used it many years ago on high-end residential as well as commercial applications while installing at the embassies in DC. The only downside to this particular job is the material. But we all know that the budget is simply the budget and we must work within the client’s means. I’ve had occasional problems with swelling and a little bit of delaminating when prepping and painting those joints. Eventually we mess a few up and figure it out though and when done right you can’t even tell that you’re looking at MDF. Great job guys!
Loved the idea! and the adhesive thing! I’m not crazy about the finished look though . For me the gap between the top of crown and ceiling doesn’t look good. After some time the Inside of that gap would be dirty as hell with no way to get your hand in there to clean it. I’d prefer crown to hide the gap. Great learning something new
It's nice to have the gap in there if you want to run some ambient lighting at the top of the cabinet. In my case my ceiling and my floors have moved in opposite directions, so crown tight to the ceiling would look pretty bad on a ceiling that has a 1.5" slope over 12'.
I gotta tell you one of the better videos on crown molding I look around and find some that are really helpful but they’re helpful to people who know how to do it already this is one of the better ones for people who come to the table with no knowledge at all nice job the nailer will save a lot of people when it comes to doing it on top of the cabinet or on top of the doorway again nice job
There is crown made for full overlay doors which will save you a lot of assembly time. For cabinets with standard overlay doors you can nail a piece of scribe with a round over (or whatever style matches your crown) to the side of the cabinet that will take up that thickness needed to clear the face frame. Again saving a lot of assembly time, makes the mitered corner match the face frame and in my opinion is easier
I appreciate a person who can read a tape measure and be able to add up fractions with no issue. Kid you not, had a guy come in 2 weeks ago and measure the countertops for my kitchen. He's asking me to hold one end for a measurement and... I swear to you... he said "that looks like 47 and 12/16ths." 12/16ths??! What is that?? I looked at him and said "Let me see your tape measure". He had one with no fractions. I handed him one of my tape measures and said "here, son. That one is a wee bit too advanced for you". Guess he was upset. He charged me another 2 dollars a foot. Doesn't matter. Once I knew he was charging more, I really laid it into him. 12/16ths... that's one hell of a way to say 3/4ths. Cost me a hair more, but I hope he remembers when an old grandmother ribbed him for not knowing how to read a tape measure.
@@guyfawkes4404 Eh, I'm guessing he was new and some of the guys in the shop were messing with him. You know, like trying to get that one guy to manually start the concrete saw or telling the new fella in the shop to run to parts for blinker fluid for the shop van. But still, you would think a guy in his late 30s would know how to read a tape measure. :P
Thx Rose much appreciated 👍 Maybe he’s used to metric and struggling with imperial? I’ve been trying to read a metric tape lately and it’s definitely different 😂
Or you can leave him alone. Let him do his damn job. What the f does it matter to you how he wants to say his mesures… of the mesure is right Its right. He charged you more because you are getting the annoying client charge rate
I was a helper installing cabinets, for commercial jobs, for about 1/2 a year and only in 1 job did we have crown. I wish we had known this method. Thanks for sharing.
I like your channel and your presentations are good. My concern with this installation is that it won't work well if you intend for the crown to touch the ceiling. A ceiling that is out of level would cause big problems here.
If you want to go to the ceiling with the crown your better off with a vertical facsia detail and multi part crown. You will still have a molding on top of the cabinet, but you will also fasten a vertical fascia to it and then the crown closes the gap between the vertical fascia and the ceiling. If the ceiling is out of level, the error will be on the reveal on the fascia which is generally less noticable and no giant gaps to caulk. There are limits to how out of level we are talking about, but this is enough to compensate most of the time unless your dealing with an old house and lots of settling.
LOL ... "You can do what you want, but that would look goofy!" Oh yeah, no accounting for good taste in some folks! I've seen some really goofy things in my 33 years in construction! This is an awesome solution that too many people don't know about.
Haha I about split a gut when you said the plumber can just take down the crown moulding... in my experience they would just take a sawzall and cut it out of the way, and maybe the cabinet too bc that's a tight fit. Haha they certainly wouldn't look for screws on how to disassemble it nicely. Seriously though I don't how many times we've reno'ed a house and the prior plumber has just cut right thru a main beam or takes 80% of it as if 1 inch remaining to a 6x8 can hold the house load. Now we're in the basement crankin' the house up trying to give a chiropractor adjustment to the house to get it to all line back up. Thanks Mr. plumber guy.
Would love to see the same video except with crown meeting the ceiling. I find that with the uneven plane of ceiling vs. leveling of upper cabinets, the gapping or planing of the crown to match the ceiling is super frustrating. Plus, having to go back and caulk/paint a factory finished cabinet/crown product makes it difficult to match. A lot of the ranches in my area have low ceilings, thus having to push the cabinets up the wall to the ceiling. Great video though!
Well said. I deal with the issues you raise all time. There’s no easy answer. After 35 years,& watching & learning from others , you do your best& caulk the rest. Many guys I know, will not install crown on cabinets to ceiling, for the very frustrating moments you describe
Beware: Pushing cabinets to the ceiling ....if using full overlay doors and your ceiling isn't flat can lead to a door hitting the ceiling when opening.
Dealing with this right now on huge crown. An Extra piece is essential. One other small tip from me is I always order a can of spray paint from the cabinet manufacturer to match the cabinet finish.
As a kitchen installer, I like your method. Before placing the assembly on the cabinet you should fill the nail holes, fix those sloppy miters, and maybe paint it.
Tough job matching paint to finished cabinets. I would have bought some pre finished crown from the cabinet manufacturer that matched but then you can't have those sloppy mitres.
I prefer the crowns to reach the ceiling unless you have light strips on top too... it just creates these dark pockets above the cabinets I don't like....
This was a phenomenal video! Thank you so much for this wonderful Contin an extremely wonderful explanation and demonstration! I really loved and appreciate how you were so thorough with educating and walking us through the steps. This is gonna be so helpful for when I work on my kitchen! This is got to be the only miter crown molding video on UA-cam that’s actually worth watching! Because it was so thorough and educational and you just explained everything so well so I didn’t have any questions that were left on answered like I get in most videos. You covered everything! Thank you!!
I’m still getting used to seeing Charles Bronson doing carpentry. Of course he’s lost his touch. The old Charles Bronson would just point a gun at the wood and crown and it would assemble itself
If you prefer cutting crown nested you can use your 2p-10 on your saw to create a crown stop for temporary use... and a fine tooth blade really helps closing in the mitres .... good video guys
It's 9:00 p.m.! I can't wait to tomorrow to try this. I've been fooling around like an idiot not being patient and wasting prepainted moulding. Thanx so much Mr. Stud Pack! I have two outside corners and then one inside corner. I hope I can make that inside corner cut.
Wow! I wish I had this tutorial years ago! Paul you sure help simplify putting up crown molding. Considering how expensive it is, your tutorials are golden & money savers!!
Getting ready to put crown on my new cabinets, never done this before, gonna go with your method because it looks easy for a novice to do and it looks really good when done, thanks
This was a great video. You answered my question at the very end, which was why put it up there before you fill, sand and paint? Since you made it modular, you should surely be putting a perfect finished piece up at the end.
Absolutely great video, I have watched it so many times and each time I gain more confidence as I prepare myself to install my crown molding, Stud Pack, you are the BEST
Thank you so much for this video and other videos you make! I’am getting ready to paint my cabinets. I wanted to get crown installed on my cabinets! I love this method! I will definitely be installing the crown myself!
You are a good teacher. I like the way you explain step by step what you do and the reason why you do it. your videos have helped me a lot and I have learned a lot, thank you very much.
Man, I’m completely stupid. I almost bypassed this video because I thought it was a basic video on crown molding, but I literally just took my project to the next level. Thank you, gentlemen.
Wow, thanks for sharing this idea. I am building some laundry cabinets for my daughter, and this will give them a really nice finishing touch. I like your style, short sweet, just the fact,s with a little humor!
Excellent, excellent, how to video as shown by a very skilled craftsman. Your cameraman did a great job as well. Between the two of you this is one of those “tricks of the trade” ideas all carpenters, woodworkers appreciate knowing, thank you. From Missouri
I actually prefer cradling crown using crown stops. Just how I learned. Not right or wrong, just what's comfortable. Pros and cons to both ways. Enjoy you guys!!
Omfg man I owe you big time. Been trying to figure out how im gonna put up my crown molding for yrs dude!! Soo thankful I saw it. Wish I could thank you guys in person or at least talk to you guys!!!!
Another great video with great info. I am saving that bevel cut website for future reference- thanks. On Many face frame cabinets the doors go so close to the top, there is nothing to nail the crown to. I usually use your method shown but bring the nailer out so its flush with the door ( as mentioned earlier). Looks more detailed and pronounced. When working with stained cabinets have the customer order a few plain "light rails". This is a piece of 1x2 stained and finished to match the cabinets. Although it intended to be used at the bottom of the cabinets to hide under cabinet lighting, I use this as my nailer and screw through the face frame using trim head screws
I always install a small piece of scribe along the top of the side of the cabinet to raise it up to the same hight of the face frame. I definitely like this method as well.
Keep doing what you do, I don't have the balls to make videos and have thousands of people scrutinize me - but all you need is what most companies call a wall end panel, it fills in the gap made by the faceframe. they are typically ~$12-$36 each and should be used on every upper cabinet that has an exposed end so your crown wrap goes flush to the cabinet and you have no gap. I have my installers typically just glue a 2x4 to the upper cabinet to nail to, in extreme cases we overlap the faceframe with a 1x4 cabinet grade trim piece then nail crown to that - but you never, ever want to have a stacked trim on top of something else. You want to always cover the piece below with an overlap, even the small reveal you have on these is enough. Never stack, you can never get that crack to look right.
Nice idea. I always cut a slice of wood and put it on the side of cabinet (in this case would have to be white), to pack it out, so not to notch the cabinet. Of course still need a nailer on top of cabinet for crown molding to attach to. I would never notch cabinet.
I just finished my sisters crown in her kitchen, and I love this method, but i didn't have the room to go above the cabinet so I had to notch but this is definitely a way im going to do in the near future
Where have you been all my DIY-er life?! :) You my friend just solved my 1.5 year long ridiculously complicated cabinet crown madness!!! Thank you, will be back for more!
Sweet. I mentioned to you guys in a previous video about cutting on the flat when you were installing crown and turning it over to cut the other side because your saw wouldn't cut all the way through. Personally I find cutting on the flat to be more precise. Great work, great video guys
This is how I do it. Nice job! Love the trick 2P10 with the wood glue. Gonna try it. 👍 There was a small amount of room above your cab crown. Why not make a short entablature to bring the crown 1/16 from ceiling. Caulk it at the top. Just a thought. Your mom in law would love it.
@@StudPack wouldn't it be easier & better looking to simply raise (remount) the top cabinets so the crown would touch the ceiling? That gap seems only couple inches.
Good idea. If I wanted to paint the ceiling and walls behind, a few screws to remove the crown makes it way easier. Think about painters too, not just plumbers.
My Dad died, but videos like this honestly feel like i have internet dads that help me with my projects, its really comforting to know even though i missed out on a lot, i can still get fun, useful lessons from a cool dude who knows his stuff. Thanks.
Our pleasure Rebecca and thx for the comment 👊 much appreciated 👍
Yours is the first video I saw when looking up how to add crown to existing cabinets. It is also the last video I'm going to watch - no need to look further. THANK YOU for such a great video and method!!
I've done cabinet installation for 30 years. This is the best tip ever. I have my kids crown job in front of me. Will use this without a doubt. Thank you thank you!
Amazing crown. But you know something I appreciate more than this tip? The respect that man has for his Dad. Well done sir. Thats worth more than any lottery. Appreciate all your videos
Another great video! I am a licensed GC and have over 40 years of construction experience, but I learn something every time I watch one of your videos. Excellent job! I love the system that you came up.
BTW, you can use a pin nailer and you won't have to fill nail holes in the molding. Most of the professional cabinet installers I have subcontracted to use pin nailers and glue on crown molding and the cabinet trim. In some cases, with larger trim, they will us a full size finish nail like you did.
I remember years ago my wife wanted crown in our kitchen. I didn't know much about home improvement, but we had a book that listed steps for most common improvement tasks like crown installation.
Each entry in the book had a 'difficulty rating', scored from 1 to 5. I remember crown was listed at 4.5 - very high difficulty. I thought, "what could be so hard about crown installation?" I didn't even own a miter saw, just a miter block and a hand saw.
I am proud to say that after 4 weekends of work, I had zero crown installed and my marriage was almost at an end. I smartened up and hired a carpenter who did a far better job than i ever could have done, and in only a few hours time.
Lmao that's great
Lol yup the more you do reno the more you realize just how good and fast the pros are. And they have every tool. DIY is highly over rated for anything other than the joy of doing it yourself.
sounds exactly like our household. a common response i alwys give my wife is "sure i'll do it, but it will probbaly look like i did it..." i do encourage everyone to get in diy though, as it only gets better with practice, you just have to make that decision on which piece you want to look like practice... lol
As a master carpenter ( in the business for 40+ years) I have had to do "marriage consoling" many times four same situation.
@@presidentresident Except when it comes time to pay the bill! lol
I love , love, love this. I have to put crown up on my own cabinets and I will be doing this method. I'm glad I haven't done them yet and now I have your system to do it. Thanks for sharing this.
I'm never disappointed watching your videos. I have to admit that's a clever trick, I've seen it used on an old wardrobe piece of furniture we had in our home before but never put 2 and 2 together. I've been doing a whole house remodel due to flood damge on a 60 year old house, and I have to say, y'all have given me the spark to tackle most of this project through all facets of construction. I'm currently at the trim stage 9 months later, so this is a pretty useful idea for my cabinet installation that I'll be undertaking next week.
Love your carpentry skills! Been a carpenter for 50 years and you have impressed me. Thanks for sharing!
Great tips...for a more professional look instead of 3 1/16 reveal front of the cabinet use 7/8 as it will bring your crown out and line up with the front of the top of the doors. looks so much better!
Yes 7/8” works great!
I like the fact your passing on your talent to your son, I have been doing the same for my son.
In time they even teach us some easier ways to achieve things faster with same results!
Peace to you and your family!
and sharpen his blade
Thanks for that tip
I spray the activator on the dry side, are you spraying your glue bead?
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Block layer is a great site, I use it mostly for rafters. I didn’t know it had a tool for crown moulding, that’s a great tip. I’ll have to give it a more thorough look at some point.
This was the single greatest tip ever!! I’ve done the easy crown molding prior. But resent kitchen remodel had tall cabinets and vaulted ceiling. This modular idea work prefect and easy to see and get great cuts. Our crown was solid wood, stained and varnished. So not being able to fix with chalk I was apprehensive. But working table high and P2-10. I had zero gaps and perfect fits on straight and 45 degree corner cabinets. I did it with one 8’ section over 6 cabinets.
Thank you !!! I
Hey just wanted to let you know , if you take strips of 3/4 poplar at an 1" or more on end and add them to the top of your uppers before you put the cabinets up you can use glue and or just cab screws with no had to attach then when your cabinet is up your (buildup) as we call it in the trade is what you would use as a nailer . Customers who are picky also xont really like to see all those screws inside the cabinet . And when you put your crown uo either piece by piece or pre assembled theres no gap from where the crown meets the face of the cabinet. If you noticed your going to have to go back and caulk your whole run where your assembly meets the cabinet the way you did it. An this isnt me being a keyboard warrior or hater just trying to pass on some helpful hints, i love watching your videos because my dad got me into carpentry and your videos hit home
Great video, this technique is beautiful. I install cabinets for a living. All this time I’ve been doing it the hard way.Installing my riser/nale strip and then cutting the crown to fit,on a ladder. Leaving the nail strip flat, bumping it out using it as a detail, form and function simply genius.
Great video. Crown has always been intimidating for me. I’ve done several ceiling crown jobs but only 2 sets of cabinets I fumbled my way through but next time I will be prepared to have a much smoother install. Beautiful work brother. Looks like you run a tight ship. I recently went on my own out of necessity my family keeps growing and so do the bills. Thanks for the free lesson it will definitely be something I will retain and help to give my family the financial freedom they deserve.
I have watched quite a few crown molding videos in the past having never attempted it yet and this is by far the most concise and easy to understand . Thank you very much thumbs up
I've been doing these things for over 20 years and this is no doubt one of my favorite channels. I know many of these things already but I love watching your video's because I'm always finding new and different ways to do things. Remember, there is always many different ways to do these things and the more tricks and techniques that you know the better your work will be
Much appreciated Jeff 💪👊
I consider myself pretty handy, however, I have never done crown molding before. I am about to put the finishing touches on the new kitchen I installed, and adding some crown molding to the high cabinets is going to bring this project to the next level. I have been doing a lot of research on youtube, and there are many great videos and professionals who have great tips on how to do this. However, your method is by far to most intuitive method on youtube! Building the whole assembly on the bench and then installing it in one go is brilliant! Thank you for sharing this with the world and with all of us DIYrs!
If only I'd seen this two years ago when I did the crown molding on the kitchen cabinets. Ugh, all the wasted time and material, and eventually the wife hired a handyman while I was on a business trip. Couldn't blame her, really. But when I finish our bookcases in our office I'll do this and it's going to look great. I'm subscribed now.
Trick I learned from my is put a little dab of white DAP on all the miter corners before painting them. It filled in any tiny imperfections and makes the moulding look seamless around the room.
Love the video!
I’m New England we use a 2 part crown in most kitchens. One is 1x4 stock the same color as cabs/crown that gets nailed into the oak nailers that come with the cabs. The second is the actual crown that you set on the 1x because most people here want their crown to go up to the ceiling.
I have done kitchens with the 1x where the customers ceiling was so off level that it was best to leave a gap and I have done some (but few) kitchens where they only want the crown. I personally really like the look of 1x then the crown all the way up to the ceiling. It also eliminates the dust and other gross dust that accumulates above top cabinets.
Thanks!
Great video! Love the nailer trick. To get rid of the chipping in your miters you need to throw a finish blade on that miter saw. Makes the painters job that much easier and makes you look that much better. Love your videos keep it up!
Love your videos! This one showing the miter angles for cutting! Omg I’m 54 years old and never knew that! No wonder the few times we’ve cut crown it was hard to get right!! Brilliant and love this prefab method! I will be a regular watching your videos! Thanks!!
Speed explanation .... 13 minutes and 50 seconds of pure knowledge and didn't even take a breath. impressive!!!!!! great vids guys
I like the nailer technique, we have used hidden nailers for our crown but not an exposed nailer before. It does add an extra detail. Just a pointer on avoiding the notched frame on the cabinets if you use that method... just get matching scribe moulding for the cabinets and it is usually the exact thickness of that 1/4" space on side of cabinet and you just put it at the top of the cabinet on the side and then install the crown right to the corner, no need to notch (or install a nailer if you can get away with it on your cabinets but the extra hold power I like).
Great idea guys. Love how it’s modular.. Another option if you have room above the doors is to put a piece of scribe on the sides. To make up the difference of the face frame.
We put scribe up as well, quick and easy. Also cheaper than having to buy material for nailer.
Wow! 30 yrs never cross my mind never cease to learn to be amazed. Love it
I had to pause it quickly as I just spit out my coffee when Paul literally said “binocular Bob’s” lololololololololololol ❤️
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Me too!!
I got a laugh out of the sound effects when he was acting like the two pieces of wood were nunchucks haha
A trick I learned from doing crown molding nailers is If you bevel the nailer board that goes up flat against the wall 3-5 degrees on the inside where it won’t show, this will help insure that your nailer always sits flat against the wall just in case your drywall isn’t perfectly flat. I wanted to see how others was doing theirs and what looked the best since I’ve been doing it the same way you did here. I think this way still looks the best. Nice work Stud Pack!
Excellent video guys! I love that technique. I used to hate crown until I started doing it more often. Ok guys I got to get back to laboring…
Cool thx bud👍👊
Sup Josh!!!!!! hope your day is going great man
Thank you, thank you! I used this method on my last kitchen, absolutely wonderful. Crown molding was always difficult for me this method is so much easier and better and looks wonderful!
Great video guys!
Some other options available to combat the ear:
If you are buying new cabinets, some manufacturers offer a finished side without the ear.
A piece of same colored paneling left over (usually left over from the island) can be ripped down and glued and pin nailed on side.
If it is a standard door, run a piece of same colored scribe molding from behind the ear to the back of the cabinet and wrap the crown around that.
I used to devour Holmes on homes back in the day. You're that guy for me now. Amazing work Amazing channel
I'm getting ready to put some up on my cabinets in my new house and I will definitely be using this method. Thanks for the video you earned a new subscriber today 😎
I love this technique and we used it many years ago on high-end residential as well as commercial applications while installing at the embassies in DC. The only downside to this particular job is the material. But we all know that the budget is simply the budget and we must work within the client’s means. I’ve had occasional problems with swelling and a little bit of delaminating when prepping and painting those joints. Eventually we mess a few up and figure it out though and when done right you can’t even tell that you’re looking at MDF. Great job guys!
Loved the idea! and the adhesive thing! I’m not crazy about the finished look though . For me the gap between the top of crown and ceiling doesn’t look good. After some time the Inside of that gap would be dirty as hell with no way to get your hand in there to clean it. I’d prefer crown to hide the gap. Great learning something new
It's nice to have the gap in there if you want to run some ambient lighting at the top of the cabinet. In my case my ceiling and my floors have moved in opposite directions, so crown tight to the ceiling would look pretty bad on a ceiling that has a 1.5" slope over 12'.
I gotta tell you one of the better videos on crown molding I look around and find some that are really helpful but they’re helpful to people who know how to do it already this is one of the better ones for people who come to the table with no knowledge at all nice job the nailer will save a lot of people when it comes to doing it on top of the cabinet or on top of the doorway again nice job
There is crown made for full overlay doors which will save you a lot of assembly time. For cabinets with standard overlay doors you can nail a piece of scribe with a round over (or whatever style matches your crown) to the side of the cabinet that will take up that thickness needed to clear the face frame. Again saving a lot of assembly time, makes the mitered corner match the face frame and in my opinion is easier
Great solution. I wish this video existed 3 years ago when I installed mine. I scoured YT and blogs and not a single person had this approach.
I appreciate a person who can read a tape measure and be able to add up fractions with no issue. Kid you not, had a guy come in 2 weeks ago and measure the countertops for my kitchen. He's asking me to hold one end for a measurement and... I swear to you... he said "that looks like 47 and 12/16ths." 12/16ths??! What is that?? I looked at him and said "Let me see your tape measure". He had one with no fractions. I handed him one of my tape measures and said "here, son. That one is a wee bit too advanced for you". Guess he was upset. He charged me another 2 dollars a foot. Doesn't matter. Once I knew he was charging more, I really laid it into him. 12/16ths... that's one hell of a way to say 3/4ths. Cost me a hair more, but I hope he remembers when an old grandmother ribbed him for not knowing how to read a tape measure.
He must be old school.
@@guyfawkes4404 Eh, I'm guessing he was new and some of the guys in the shop were messing with him. You know, like trying to get that one guy to manually start the concrete saw or telling the new fella in the shop to run to parts for blinker fluid for the shop van. But still, you would think a guy in his late 30s would know how to read a tape measure. :P
Thx Rose much appreciated 👍
Maybe he’s used to metric and struggling with imperial? I’ve been trying to read a metric tape lately and it’s definitely different 😂
Or you can leave him alone. Let him do his damn job. What the f does it matter to you how he wants to say his mesures… of the mesure is right Its right. He charged you more because you are getting the annoying client charge rate
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I was a helper installing cabinets, for commercial jobs, for about 1/2 a year and only in 1 job did we have crown. I wish we had known this method. Thanks for sharing.
I like your channel and your presentations are good. My concern with this installation is that it won't work well if you intend for the crown to touch the ceiling. A ceiling that is out of level would cause big problems here.
I agree Bill. Lots of comments on why we don’t run cabinets all the way up to the ceiling. Out of level ceilings are a big reason. Thx 👍👊
If you want to go to the ceiling with the crown your better off with a vertical facsia detail and multi part crown. You will still have a molding on top of the cabinet, but you will also fasten a vertical fascia to it and then the crown closes the gap between the vertical fascia and the ceiling. If the ceiling is out of level, the error will be on the reveal on the fascia which is generally less noticable and no giant gaps to caulk. There are limits to how out of level we are talking about, but this is enough to compensate most of the time unless your dealing with an old house and lots of settling.
Yes I agree.
I'm putting a vertical fascia as my ceilings are a quarter inch out of level at worst
Carpenter for 45 years. Thank you. Very smart. :) I'm gunna use this !!!
LOL ... "You can do what you want, but that would look goofy!"
Oh yeah, no accounting for good taste in some folks! I've seen some really goofy things in my 33 years in construction!
This is an awesome solution that too many people don't know about.
Haha I about split a gut when you said the plumber can just take down the crown moulding... in my experience they would just take a sawzall and cut it out of the way, and maybe the cabinet too bc that's a tight fit. Haha they certainly wouldn't look for screws on how to disassemble it nicely. Seriously though I don't how many times we've reno'ed a house and the prior plumber has just cut right thru a main beam or takes 80% of it as if 1 inch remaining to a 6x8 can hold the house load. Now we're in the basement crankin' the house up trying to give a chiropractor adjustment to the house to get it to all line back up. Thanks Mr. plumber guy.
Agree 100% Butchers must've been their past job, Sadly some so called carpenters don't take pride in their work also. Stay Blessed✌️👽❤️
I'm gonna have to add binocular bobs into my every day vocabulary
Yup
Thx Joe 💪
Your video has gained my confidence in doing this in my kitchen. Very sweet way to overcome the nightmare.
Would love to see the same video except with crown meeting the ceiling. I find that with the uneven plane of ceiling vs. leveling of upper cabinets, the gapping or planing of the crown to match the ceiling is super frustrating. Plus, having to go back and caulk/paint a factory finished cabinet/crown product makes it difficult to match. A lot of the ranches in my area have low ceilings, thus having to push the cabinets up the wall to the ceiling. Great video though!
Well said. I deal with the issues you raise all time. There’s no easy answer. After 35 years,& watching & learning from others , you do your best& caulk the rest. Many guys I know, will not install crown on cabinets to ceiling, for the very frustrating moments you describe
Beware: Pushing cabinets to the ceiling ....if using full overlay doors and your ceiling isn't flat can lead to a door hitting the ceiling when opening.
@@johnsbard6122 Happened to us, 😂 we had to lower the cabinets slightly off the ceiling; about 1/2 inch but it looks fine.
Dealing with this right now on huge crown. An Extra piece is essential. One other small tip from me is I always order a can of spray paint from the cabinet manufacturer to match the cabinet finish.
That method Rocks!!!
Allows me to do all the crown molding for cabinets in my shop. Then it’s a quick install. Thank you for sharing.
"Gonna be that guy" we've all been that guy at some point. 😁
Love the idea of being able to remove easily from inside the cabinet. Job well done!!
As a kitchen installer, I like your method. Before placing the assembly on the cabinet you should fill the nail holes, fix those sloppy miters, and maybe paint it.
He says this exact thing at the end of the video
Tough job matching paint to finished cabinets. I would have bought some pre finished crown from the cabinet manufacturer that matched but then you can't have those sloppy mitres.
Tons of cab installers have been faced with that problem. My last install was exactly this method. I love this stuff. Well hell yah my thumb is up.
I prefer the crowns to reach the ceiling unless you have light strips on top too... it just creates these dark pockets above the cabinets I don't like....
This was a phenomenal video! Thank you so much for this wonderful Contin an extremely wonderful explanation and demonstration! I really loved and appreciate how you were so thorough with educating and walking us through the steps. This is gonna be so helpful for when I work on my kitchen! This is got to be the only miter crown molding video on UA-cam that’s actually worth watching! Because it was so thorough and educational and you just explained everything so well so I didn’t have any questions that were left on answered like I get in most videos. You covered everything! Thank you!!
I’m still getting used to seeing Charles Bronson doing carpentry. Of course he’s lost his touch. The old Charles Bronson would just point a gun at the wood and crown and it would assemble itself
If you prefer cutting crown nested you can use your 2p-10 on your saw to create a crown stop for temporary use... and a fine tooth blade really helps closing in the mitres .... good video guys
It's 9:00 p.m.! I can't wait to tomorrow to try this. I've been fooling around like an idiot not being patient and wasting prepainted moulding. Thanx so much Mr. Stud Pack! I have two outside corners and then one inside corner. I hope I can make that inside corner cut.
Wow! I wish I had this tutorial years ago! Paul you sure help simplify putting up crown molding. Considering how expensive it is, your tutorials are golden & money savers!!
Getting ready to put crown on my new cabinets, never done this before, gonna go with your method because it looks easy for a novice to do and it looks really good when done, thanks
This was a great video. You answered my question at the very end, which was why put it up there before you fill, sand and paint? Since you made it modular, you should surely be putting a perfect finished piece up at the end.
Absolutely great video, I have watched it so many times and each time I gain more confidence as I prepare myself to install my crown molding, Stud Pack, you are the BEST
Thank you so much for this video and other videos you make! I’am getting ready to paint my cabinets. I wanted to get crown installed on my cabinets! I love this method! I will definitely be installing the crown myself!
You are a good teacher. I like the way you explain step by step what you do and the reason why you do it. your videos have helped me a lot and I have learned a lot, thank you very much.
I'm a carpenter with you guys did was outstanding outstanding
Man, I’m completely stupid. I almost bypassed this video because I thought it was a basic video on crown molding, but I literally just took my project to the next level. Thank you, gentlemen.
Just wonderful content. Love your channel. You are both so respectful and kind to each other - shows great parenting and a great kid.
Much appreciated Rich 👊👍
Yep that's it. AC wood clamp glue lol. Who would of thought? Keep up the great content guys. Its appreciated.
Wow, thanks for sharing this idea. I am building some laundry cabinets for my daughter, and this will give them a really nice finishing touch. I like your style, short sweet, just the fact,s with a little humor!
Cool thx Steven 👍👊
From Australia…You definitely have great carpentry skills. Wow..I’m impressed…
Dude what I don't know I sure learn from you guys.
Thanks for all your videos I'm 57 and I'm always up for learning new ways to install.
Thx 👊👍
Watched the video yesterday, and then tried it on a clients of mines kitchen and it came out phenomenal! Thank you 💪🏽💪🏽
Excellent, excellent, how to video as shown by a very skilled craftsman. Your cameraman did a great job as well. Between the two of you this is one of those “tricks of the trade” ideas all carpenters, woodworkers appreciate knowing, thank you.
From Missouri
Thx Jack 👍
Oh wow ! Thanks. I have an unfinished kitchen and bath…installers just never came back…now I know how to finish
Just gave your technique a try and it was fantastic! Thanks for sharing an awesome tip!!
Cool stuff. Embraced the 2 part glue nearly 2 decades ago. Showing my age now lol. Like the top mount approach 👍👊👊
I actually prefer cradling crown using crown stops. Just how I learned. Not right or wrong, just what's comfortable. Pros and cons to both ways. Enjoy you guys!!
Great video, cool that you and your Dad get to work on projects like this. Cheers
Great video Paul I used this technique today and it worked fantastic. I watch all your videos. You guys are great!
Nice to see you thinking things out, not just throwing things together. That is where the money and reputation is earned.
Omfg man I owe you big time.
Been trying to figure out how im gonna put up my crown molding for yrs dude!!
Soo thankful I saw it. Wish I could thank you guys in person or at least talk to you guys!!!!
Wow! After watching this video I feel like a “pro” and ready to DIY mine cabinets! Thanks for this video!!! 🙌🏾
Always enjoy your videos of unique improved methods for making project easier. Thank you!
Another great video with great info. I am saving that bevel cut website for future reference- thanks.
On Many face frame cabinets the doors go so close to the top, there is nothing to nail the crown to. I usually use your method shown but bring the nailer out so its flush with the door ( as mentioned earlier). Looks more detailed and pronounced. When working with stained cabinets have the customer order a few plain "light rails". This is a piece of 1x2 stained and finished to match the cabinets. Although it intended to be used at the bottom of the cabinets to hide under cabinet lighting, I use this as my nailer and screw through the face frame using trim head screws
That was using your noodles fantastic God bless guys.😥👍👌👁
Perfect time to do it boss.
I always install a small piece of scribe along the top of the side of the cabinet to raise it up to the same hight of the face frame. I definitely like this method as well.
Keep doing what you do, I don't have the balls to make videos and have thousands of people scrutinize me - but all you need is what most companies call a wall end panel, it fills in the gap made by the faceframe. they are typically ~$12-$36 each and should be used on every upper cabinet that has an exposed end so your crown wrap goes flush to the cabinet and you have no gap. I have my installers typically just glue a 2x4 to the upper cabinet to nail to, in extreme cases we overlap the faceframe with a 1x4 cabinet grade trim piece then nail crown to that - but you never, ever want to have a stacked trim on top of something else. You want to always cover the piece below with an overlap, even the small reveal you have on these is enough. Never stack, you can never get that crack to look right.
Nice idea. I always cut a slice of wood and put it on the side of cabinet (in this case would have to be white), to pack it out, so not to notch the cabinet. Of course still need a nailer on top of cabinet for crown molding to attach to. I would never notch cabinet.
This is a No bs video. Directly to the point and super informative. Excellent! Thanks!
I just finished my sisters crown in her kitchen, and I love this method, but i didn't have the room to go above the cabinet so I had to notch but this is definitely a way im going to do in the near future
I'd have never thought to do it this way. You are a genius!
OMG!!! I am sooooo doing this on my kitchen remodel. Thanks fellas!
Where have you been all my DIY-er life?! :) You my friend just solved my 1.5 year long ridiculously complicated cabinet crown madness!!! Thank you, will be back for more!
Sweet. I mentioned to you guys in a previous video about cutting on the flat when you were installing crown and turning it over to cut the other side because your saw wouldn't cut all the way through. Personally I find cutting on the flat to be more precise.
Great work, great video guys
Thx Mick 👊
It is pretty slick cutting on the flat 👍
@@StudPack you need a dbl compound saw to do that?
This is one of the best diy tips I have run across. Thank you
You are truly an internet dad. I love it. Thank you so much. I appreciate you.
This is how I do it. Nice job! Love the trick 2P10 with the wood glue. Gonna try it. 👍 There was a small amount of room above your cab crown. Why not make a short entablature to bring the crown 1/16 from ceiling. Caulk it at the top. Just a thought. Your mom in law would love it.
An entablature would be a great addition 👍
@@StudPack wouldn't it be easier & better looking to simply raise (remount) the top cabinets so the crown would touch the ceiling? That gap seems only couple inches.
Nice work guys. I’ve notched cabinet sides before. I like this approach better.
Thx Jim 👍
Good idea. If I wanted to paint the ceiling and walls behind, a few screws to remove the crown makes it way easier. Think about painters too, not just plumbers.
Just found your video. Lots of information packed into this short video that answered so many of my questions. Immediately subscribed. Thank you
Thx Joel 👍👊