Hey Motocheez, I finally got a dual sport, 2017 CRF 250L rode it a few times,but this KY weather is crazy,snow on 4/7/18 can't wait for warm weather,so far I love it !
I just bought a Crf 250f a couple months ago and I love it. Perfect bike for me. I had contemplated the hawk for a long time but I think a the Crf will be in my best interest as far as longevity. Planning on keeping this bike for 10+ years
I've been a Harley sportster owner for years owned 3 of them went back to dual sport bikes got a 2019 crf250l too kinda old feel little stupid on it but lots of smiles while riding
I loved my 250l, but upgraded to a 2018 klr. Much better on the road and has a better power to weight ratio so I found her better off-road as well. Though the extra 100 pounds is immediately noticable
Hi there! Nice to watch your videos! Just found your channel. I have the same bike as hawk,but it's called Geon in Ukraine)). How many miles do you have on yours till now? Many of my friends suggest me to sell it,as it is Chinese bike and won't last long,but i am pretty satisfied with it... What can you say? And what is the price of the brand new Hawk over in your country?
I would have traded that peg scraper for a dualsport too = ) Honda makes a pretty solid bike . I had a 2003 crf 150rb I used for the trails for years , and never had any problems with it . It was built though with big bore , full 2 brothers exhaust , aftermarket cdi , carb tune and k and n high flow air filter . I wish I didn't sell it , but I was just too big for it to be that much fun . I'll for sure be doing all the same things I did to the honda , minus the big bore , to the hawk . Plus I'll be adding an oil cooler = ) I wish you would open up your exhaust on the hawk , but I totally get you wanting it to stay quiet .
LOL = ) Best thing you ever could have done in my opinion is to get rid of any type of harley a.s.a.p. !! I wouldn't want that thing eventually dripping oil all over my garage floor . Not to mention being rattled to death every time you ride the damn thing down the road . On top of all that there's the stigma attached with owning/riding one . They are in my opinion very non functional , and are , in the end , over priced niknaks for the eye to enjoy . You know ..... shiney things !! = ) I've got a joke for you ... what is the difference between a harley and a Hoover Vaccum ?? The position of the dirt-bag !! = ) You made the best trade possible the way I see it . Can you take the harley down the trail all day ? Or how about being able to lean it into a corner without grinding pegs and maybe losing control and crashing ? You can't do much with a Harley except cruise and go bar hopping , and that whole scene leaves a lot to be desired .
Great Video been looking at the crf250r and wr250r and came across the Hawks. Thanks for the review and thoughts of the 2. I'M still in limbo between the 2 do you have any more thoughts comparing the 2.
I like the Honda I kept it for a few years I just sold it last year and upgraded to the DRZ400 s. My son actually bought a brand new one after he rode mine a few times. I do love the wr250, but at that price you can get a DRZ400 which is just a little bit more weight and a lot more horsepower. That's my opinion. I did do a review on a DRZ400 to I'll send a link. ua-cam.com/video/CrDPUCPhDJs/v-deo.html
It's pretty badass. I want to get the programmer and just shorten the arrestor screen. I do not want it loud, but I know its leaned out from factory too.. You do any mods on yours?
+MotoCheez not so far. I'm planning on the EJK and air box mods. Want to leave the muffler stock because I love that it's so quiet. Maybe a little less power that way but I think it's worth it. Other than that I'm just going to get the protection. Skid plate, rad guard etc. new tires eventually stock kinda suck for softer dirt tend to wash out. Looking forward to seeing more video from you. Ride safe buddy
+TheFanaticalFan I agree. Want it quiet, but I saw one guy pull out his spark arrest or (it's long) and cut it way shorter so it doesn't go through double baffle restriction, was an improvement enough that he had to bump up his power module. I pulled the rubber boot off the top of the air box. The hole is so tiny. Now it makes more noise when I gas it but it's a good size hole and I don't want to drill holes in the side. I'd rather open the top more and maybe a baffle for noise. Uploading a ride from today soon. Thanks for watching!!
Would I fit on this bike?, I'm 5'7" and a half but I'm getting bike may next year so I'll be 16 then and probably little taller. I want a street legal bike and I think this would be the one
CORRECTION.. Sorry I thought you were talking about the Hawks, the CRF250L is a bit taler, I'm 5'10' and I can not touch flat. I think you'll be OK but on tip toes..
I know this is old, but did you retest it after removing the air blockage ? That looked to be cutting off 75% of the airflow and yet it did as well as the Hawk.
@@MotoCheez I used to have a Honda 250 Nighthawk, 72 top end, was fine for me. They quite making them in 2008 so was looking at maybe the TAO TAO for 1350 delivered. I weigh 300 lbs. Do you think it will hold up for 95% street use ? I want a backup vehicle and I love to ride in the winter. Thanks...
@@batsonelectronics it's a great secondary road bike. As long as you're not pushing it max rpm on the highway constantly it'll hold up good. Ave 55 to 60 mph. So like under 100kmh 😁
@@MotoCheez Just need for around town and small trips out to family. All speed limits is 55 mph or less. Wanted something for emergency parts runs if car needs parts and miss riding. Due to health problems I need a light bike I can move around easily. Had to sell my bigger bikes long ago b/c of that. I love riding in rain at end of summer and in winter. I can't handle heat ( over 75f ) but cold doesn't bother me. I still have my cold weather and rain gear. Thanks for the replies. Very leary of cheap bikes but don't drive more than 2K miles a year so wouldn't get used much, maybe 1k per year or more if it doesn't snow or rain in the winter. ( I like cold, not cold and wet )
Hi, do you still have this bike? My local dealer has a 2016 with 700 miles on it that I'm thinking about trying to get. It looks new still so just wondering what you think 3 years in of this bike if you still have it and how far you've ridden it and maintenance.
Just bought a '16 CRF250L and it seems to be struggling to go past 55mph. It has 300 miles on it so far. Any suggestions as to what might be the problem? Thanks
XXLrollingpapers these bikes are lean from the factory. I did some videos on installing the EJK (electronic jet kit) an exhaust mod and airbox mod that wakes the bike up about 5 HP.
i have been riding a tbr7 (and a Vstrom) and have been going back and forth between the Drz, Crf250l, Wr250r and the KLX250... going to use it as a dirt bike/dual sport/adventure bike... any recommendations?
MotoCheez wanted a wr250r but damn they aint cheap and stumbled on a 09 KLX250s ....with only 756 original miles!!! .... had to get it. great ride and waaaaaybetter than my tbr7.
Man,, to be able to back the bike off the trailer, then ride straight in to the forest, cool. I would suggest to wear a helmet. Traded a used bike for a new 250l with zero miles, cool. Yep, 23 hp, 70 miles a gallon, fuel injection, zero adjustment suspension. Yep, the engine does have counter balance . The engine and frame are cbr250 . Street bike. The 250l just have different plastic. You`ll like the bike.
Not sure if it is the 2016 ,but I bought the 2017 an fmf pipe alone much better throttle response ,the hawk does not even compare,so I am 275 too an the crf is just way more nimble sucks up bumps better ,an just a totaly different bike ,mabey the better fair bike to compare it to would be the 2009 crf230l last year ,though we know the engine from this ,is from a 1975 honda, the hawk that is ,my hawk felt like a very unsafe bike,though I did not take it apart then put it back together either ,the hawk is a good bike for those who want to do a lot of work ,the honda a great bike ,if your a guy who just wants to jump on his bike an ride then the honda is the better choice, love the videos ,but there is just no comparing these 2 bikes ,oh an cold weather starts makes it worth a good used crf250l theres talk about the 300l with the cbr engine,but I feel with the 57mm pegs there is so much more I can do with the honda to hands down honda wins an you can buy the honda used for like 3k with 300 miles on them ,mine I paid $4300.00 for the 2017 with 64 miles,i still feel good knowing guys are paying over retail for the honda to at 5800.00 from dealer in the NE for the 2019 with no changes over the 17 ,so a good used one is the way ,my hawk just felt like it was not stable,sold for $1100.00,keep the wild videos comeing
you've modified the hawk a lil...I'm sure after you do lil work here and there you'll like the honda. plus with this one has less maintenance looking forward to what all you do to this new toy
+MotoCheez how do you turn on a motorcycle I want to get into motorcycling but idk how to turn is it like a bycycle or something or what is counter steering
It turns on by the key, then you push the starter button. Watch a bunch of videos and you can get an idea of how to ride. I've never done a "how to ride" video.
What is the best supermoto to get if you're only 5 7 or 5 8? I want it to have a low saddle, be modern, lightweight, reliable, and be a fuel injected bike. If there is a good way to adjust the saddle on the bike that's fine with me
alex parrish hi. I believe this CRF250L is the lowest seat height efi bike out today. I added a softer lowering seat to mine made by seat concepts. I know they also make lowering kits. Plus if you're turning into a supermoto, the rims are smaller so it will also lower it. I'm 5'10" and I can touch almost flat footed on this bike with the lower seat. Stock seat is high and narrow. Can't ride long.
I'm 5' 10 and this Honda stock had me almost on my tip toes, I ended up buying a seat concepts lowering wide seat and it was a huge improvement. The CRF250L also has adjustable spring for rear shock, but the height is good for me now. Seems all the Dual-Sports out today are very tall,. The Hawk250 Chinese bikes have a low seat height, I can touch flat footed easily and the Magician 250 is even lower and smaller, but the Chinese bikes don't come fuel injected yet so they need a little tinkering.
@@MotoCheez if so with the bottom end has been proven bulletproof lol and has more or same power the top end would make it even stronger. Thus 70 75 mph obtained. And ditch the efi keeping it carbureted better mpg than efi.
so im thinks of buying a hawk or a crf250l i mostly do trails and offroad do you think the crf is worth the big money difference or ill be fine with a hawk and do you have any ideas about the ssr 250cc enduro they also have for around 3k online ?
Personally I think the CRF is overpriced, if your handy and like tinkering on bikes I say do the Hawk250. Not that the Honda is not a good bike, it's just not worth almost 5 times the Hawk.
+MotoCheez yeah i do love to play with the bikes thanks bro your saved me a couple thousand dollars , it first i thought the crf was like 100 times better but the hawk is a really good bike based on your vid i watched all of them lmao
is the 2016 crf 250L exhaust the same for the 2017, trying to get after market exhaust for my 2017 and fmf say they don't have one for the 2017 yet. please help. thank you
Michael Peterson - 2017 has a 2mm larger throttle body, larger intake box, larger header piping, o2 sensor, and different exhaust clambering, also new ecu. Makes 2.3hp more stock and they aren’t interchangeable, needs to be a 2017+ specific exhaust. Considering the stage 1 mods for a 2016 which are a filter, tune, and exhaust add 3 hp to it. There really isn’t a need to upgrade the 2017 it has that extra power stock. Just change to a 13T sprocket and you’re set
suspict1 yes. If you're fairly mechanically inclined to put the bike together and do a few mods here and there, you can't find another bike for the price range.
Nice bike man. Funny you would mention that exhaust. I have that exact exhaust on order. Should have it in a few weeks hopefully. Get a clean air filter and that sucker will run better. LOL
I am thinking of buying a CRF250L in the Thai market. Thanks for the video. It seems to run well. There are several modifications you can do: FMF full system and an exhaust box mod. These really release a lot of performance. If you haven't already seen them, have a look at this chap's UA-cam videos; TheMissendenFlyer. He lives in England and has several bikes, one of them being the CRF, and he has done everything to it.
Nice, it's a good bike. I did a few mods already that made huge power gains, video on my channel, modified stick exhaust, don't really want it loud for when I'm riding in the woods. I ordered a seat concept seat too. After an hour your ass is hurting. Lol. I and subscribed to that guy, now I like his videos!! When you get your bike let me know how you like it and mods you do.
StilwellMotovlogger I did the 13t front and a EJK and missed the exhaust tip airbox mod. Made a huge difference. Now I need a full exhaust like you said.
Quick question, at which speed do you recommend switching from gears so that you don't put too much stress on the engine? I'm new to motorcycles and would like to have mine last long.
Jesus Christ it's hard to explain. You have to listen to the engine. I would compare it to how an automatic transmission on a car shifts. If you're putting around you can shift at low RPMs and if you get on the gas to pass or something you rev it out. It takes a little while but you'll feel when the best time is to shift. Does that make sense?
MotoCheez Thanks for the help! I plan on getting one too and making it black also, but I'm curious to know, will you get Warp 9 rims and convert it to a supermoto?
MotoCheez its great! I got a bigger cam, a dynojet kit, a slip on, airbox mod and aftermarket shock in the back. All done to it and it great. It has a carb but starts great and is almost identical to my kx250f just not as peppy as expected but overall great bike its a 06.
The DR200 has 3" lower seat height, has the same clearance but less suspension travel than the crf250L. The DR is air cooled and carbureted the CRF is liquid cooled and EFI. I'd choose the CRF250L, it has better specs all the way around but it has a small 2 gallon tank which stinks!
The CG 125s are the only one that made it to America, but Africa got a ton of the CG 250 engines. I'm not exactly sure what they called the bike over there but they're still running those bikes today very reliable
Grey Goose 4x4 Love it. Since you're a jeep guy too I'm sure you'd enjoy the on and off road factor. It's not fast on the highway but perfect for sneaking in where the jeep might be too big. Hehe
MotoCheez that's why I was thinking plus the equity in the fatbob would buy this brand new ... Also with the camper I can buy a lift and bring this along the Harley is just too heavy to tow on the camper with the jeep ...
+wc31416 that's crazy. Something must be wrong. Sure speedometer is right? Does it rev out high enough? Maybe hit up chinariders.net and see if anyone else had same issue.
I have the CSC TT250 which is extremely similar to a Hawk, and also a CRF250L. I love the way the TT250 handles off road. The gearing is awesome for the terrain that I ride. On the CRF250L, even with the 13t front sprocket, second gear is still useless on a lot of the steep hills we have here in California. I am hoping that the 42t rear will make it a bit more off-road oriented for the type of terrain that I ride.
In fact ...turnsignals may be at best as flashing " marker light"....for use in inclement weather...high density traffic...or any time you want an active attention grabber!!
+Emre.D it was brand new, put on showroom floor for a few weeks before I bought it. I put wire over all my air boxes. Mice terrible in this are. A lot of woods
Oh, here's my new toy. Mostly will be used to pickup and drop off customers cars but I ride the heck out of it on weekends. Top speed around 60MPH I put over 440 miles on it in two weeks. ua-cam.com/video/Gk4UNjsE4Ts/v-deo.html
![[E51] Hawk 250 handle a passenger? Magician crash, Honda CRF250 ride on RR tracks. broken spoke](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/niGUQUmcS88/mqdefault.jpg)
That's my Miata at 2:45 haha I was interested in this bike so I watched this review and thought that car looked familiar
ttttttjjjjj haha. No way! That's pretty cool 😎
ttttttjjjjj small world
that's a nice car you got
Hey Motocheez, I finally got a dual sport, 2017 CRF 250L rode it a few times,but this KY weather is crazy,snow on 4/7/18 can't wait for warm weather,so far I love it !
Awesome. I love mine too. Shitty weather here also!
I just bought a Crf 250f a couple months ago and I love it. Perfect bike for me. I had contemplated the hawk for a long time but I think a the Crf will be in my best interest as far as longevity. Planning on keeping this bike for 10+ years
Definitely a better choice when you can afford it!
I have been looking at these bikes online... rode a crf450r up in New York state, thing was a beast in the mountains. Thank you for the video.
Great bikes!!
After watching this vid I'm convinced the Hawk is a better deal. This bike is a prime candidate for a supermoto though.
My buddy has a honda CRF 250L rally and has put thousands into performance and suspension mods.
Should've just got a better bike.
I like the guys that do that. Got mine used already modded. I bought it for less than just the mods on it.
I've been a Harley sportster owner for years owned 3 of them went back to dual sport bikes got a 2019 crf250l too kinda old feel little stupid on it but lots of smiles while riding
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2:44 that miata was so clean though :)
imacowinrealife go down the comments. A guy who owns it commented
I loved my 250l, but upgraded to a 2018 klr. Much better on the road and has a better power to weight ratio so I found her better off-road as well. Though the extra 100 pounds is immediately noticable
Nice!💯👍👍👍
Thought the hawk would be the one swallowing mice.
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Hi there! Nice to watch your videos! Just found your channel. I have the same bike as hawk,but it's called Geon in Ukraine)). How many miles do you have on yours till now? Many of my friends suggest me to sell it,as it is Chinese bike and won't last long,but i am pretty satisfied with it... What can you say? And what is the price of the brand new Hawk over in your country?
Some of these. Ike's have over 10000 miles. They're $1300 here. TY 😄
I would have traded that peg scraper for a dualsport too = ) Honda makes a pretty solid bike . I had a 2003 crf 150rb I used for the trails for years , and never had any problems with it . It was built though with big bore , full 2 brothers exhaust , aftermarket cdi , carb tune and k and n high flow air filter . I wish I didn't sell it , but I was just too big for it to be that much fun . I'll for sure be doing all the same things I did to the honda , minus the big bore , to the hawk . Plus I'll be adding an oil cooler = ) I wish you would open up your exhaust on the hawk , but I totally get you wanting it to stay quiet .
+brad bully I had harleydude comment I'm a special kind of stupid blab blan rust blah. The deleted the comment. Lol
LOL = ) Best thing you ever could have done in my opinion is to get rid of any type of harley a.s.a.p. !! I wouldn't want that thing eventually dripping oil all over my garage floor . Not to mention being rattled to death every time you ride the damn thing down the road . On top of all that there's the stigma attached with owning/riding one . They are in my opinion very non functional , and are , in the end , over priced niknaks for the eye to enjoy . You know ..... shiney things !! = ) I've got a joke for you ... what is the difference between a harley and a Hoover Vaccum ?? The position of the dirt-bag !! = ) You made the best trade possible the way I see it . Can you take the harley down the trail all day ? Or how about being able to lean it into a corner without grinding pegs and maybe losing control and crashing ? You can't do much with a Harley except cruise and go bar hopping , and that whole scene leaves a lot to be desired .
Don't blame ya for dumping the harley. I'm lookn into getting a xr650l myself.
As you know I love the Hawk this should give you less issues.
Congrats man.
Enjoy
Thanks! I still have the hawk too. My youngest claimed it LOL
Nice ride. I have been looking at one. Does it run better now without the mouse?😎
Much better!
MotoCheez does the difference warrant a review/comparison update?
No. I found the nest before I did the rides and review luckily
Great Video been looking at the crf250r and wr250r and came across the Hawks. Thanks for the review and thoughts of the 2. I'M still in limbo between the 2 do you have any more thoughts comparing the 2.
I like the Honda I kept it for a few years I just sold it last year and upgraded to the DRZ400 s. My son actually bought a brand new one after he rode mine a few times. I do love the wr250, but at that price you can get a DRZ400 which is just a little bit more weight and a lot more horsepower. That's my opinion. I did do a review on a DRZ400 to I'll send a link. ua-cam.com/video/CrDPUCPhDJs/v-deo.html
@@MotoCheez would you recommend your hawks? Any problems besides minor items?
yeah for a bike that's only $1,400, if you don't mind tinkering here and there they're all holding up pretty well from what I could see. Mine is
Congrats on the new bike hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine. Ride safe
It's pretty badass. I want to get the programmer and just shorten the arrestor screen. I do not want it loud, but I know its leaned out from factory too.. You do any mods on yours?
+MotoCheez not so far. I'm planning on the EJK and air box mods. Want to leave the muffler stock because I love that it's so quiet. Maybe a little less power that way but I think it's worth it. Other than that I'm just going to get the protection. Skid plate, rad guard etc. new tires eventually stock kinda suck for softer dirt tend to wash out. Looking forward to seeing more video from you. Ride safe buddy
+TheFanaticalFan I agree. Want it quiet, but I saw one guy pull out his spark arrest or (it's long) and cut it way shorter so it doesn't go through double baffle restriction, was an improvement enough that he had to bump up his power module. I pulled the rubber boot off the top of the air box. The hole is so tiny. Now it makes more noise when I gas it but it's a good size hole and I don't want to drill holes in the side. I'd rather open the top more and maybe a baffle for noise. Uploading a ride from today soon. Thanks for watching!!
I'm getting.this bike at some point this summer love your Vid man! gotbtour self a subscriber
Awesome. You're going to love it, with a few mods it's even better!!
Would I fit on this bike?, I'm 5'7" and a half but I'm getting bike may next year so I'll be 16 then and probably little taller. I want a street legal bike and I think this would be the one
CORRECTION.. Sorry I thought you were talking about the Hawks, the CRF250L is a bit taler, I'm 5'10' and I can not touch flat. I think you'll be OK but on tip toes..
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I know this is old, but did you retest it after removing the air blockage ? That looked to be cutting off 75% of the airflow and yet it did as well as the Hawk.
I did, it wasn't much different tbh
@@MotoCheez I used to have a Honda 250 Nighthawk, 72 top end, was fine for me. They quite making them in 2008 so was looking at maybe the TAO TAO for 1350 delivered. I weigh 300 lbs. Do you think it will hold up for 95% street use ? I want a backup vehicle and I love to ride in the winter. Thanks...
@@batsonelectronics it's a great secondary road bike. As long as you're not pushing it max rpm on the highway constantly it'll hold up good. Ave 55 to 60 mph. So like under 100kmh 😁
@@MotoCheez Just need for around town and small trips out to family. All speed limits is 55 mph or less. Wanted something for emergency parts runs if car needs parts and miss riding. Due to health problems I need a light bike I can move around easily. Had to sell my bigger bikes long ago b/c of that. I love riding in rain at end of summer and in winter. I can't handle heat ( over 75f ) but cold doesn't bother me. I still have my cold weather and rain gear. Thanks for the replies. Very leary of cheap bikes but don't drive more than 2K miles a year so wouldn't get used much, maybe 1k per year or more if it doesn't snow or rain in the winter. ( I like cold, not cold and wet )
@@batsonelectronics perfect!
Hi, do you still have this bike? My local dealer has a 2016 with 700 miles on it that I'm thinking about trying to get. It looks new still so just wondering what you think 3 years in of this bike if you still have it and how far you've ridden it and maintenance.
I sold the bike, I had about 2000 miles. They're great bikes just a little under powered compared to other 250s. Great bike though
Just bought a '16 CRF250L and it seems to be struggling to go past 55mph. It has 300 miles on it so far. Any suggestions as to what might be the problem? Thanks
XXLrollingpapers these bikes are lean from the factory. I did some videos on installing the EJK (electronic jet kit) an exhaust mod and airbox mod that wakes the bike up about 5 HP.
I bought a new $36000 SUV and it had a mouse nest under the hood, Would you believe the dealer removed it FREE OF CHARGE.
George Lee I'm sure the dealer would have removed mine too, but they're an hour away. damn mice!
i have been riding a tbr7 (and a Vstrom) and have been going back and forth between the Drz, Crf250l, Wr250r and the KLX250... going to use it as a dirt bike/dual sport/adventure bike... any recommendations?
Wr250!!
MotoCheez wanted a wr250r but damn they aint cheap and stumbled on a 09 KLX250s ....with only 756 original miles!!! .... had to get it. great ride and waaaaaybetter than my tbr7.
They're fast!
Your DMV looks identical to our DMV 's. In Maryland. Same setup.
CT dmv is the worst I’ve ever been in out of 4 states I’ve lived or used them
Man,, to be able to back the bike off the trailer, then ride straight in to the forest, cool. I would suggest to wear a helmet. Traded a used bike for a new 250l with zero miles, cool. Yep, 23 hp, 70 miles a gallon, fuel injection, zero adjustment suspension. Yep, the engine does have counter balance . The engine and frame are cbr250 . Street bike. The 250l just have different plastic. You`ll like the bike.
8:01 no wonder Kitty was hanging around.
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Not sure if it is the 2016 ,but I bought the 2017 an fmf pipe alone much better throttle response ,the hawk does not even compare,so I am 275 too an the crf is just way more nimble sucks up bumps better ,an just a totaly different bike ,mabey the better fair bike to compare it to would be the 2009 crf230l last year ,though we know the engine from this ,is from a 1975 honda, the hawk that is ,my hawk felt like a very unsafe bike,though I did not take it apart then put it back together either ,the hawk is a good bike for those who want to do a lot of work ,the honda a great bike ,if your a guy who just wants to jump on his bike an ride then the honda is the better choice, love the videos ,but there is just no comparing these 2 bikes ,oh an cold weather starts makes it worth a good used crf250l theres talk about the 300l with the cbr engine,but I feel with the 57mm pegs there is so much more I can do with the honda to hands down honda wins an you can buy the honda used for like 3k with 300 miles on them ,mine I paid $4300.00 for the 2017 with 64 miles,i still feel good knowing guys are paying over retail for the honda to at 5800.00 from dealer in the NE for the 2019 with no changes over the 17 ,so a good used one is the way ,my hawk just felt like it was not stable,sold for $1100.00,keep the wild videos comeing
True.. but people kept asking lol. 230 I don't have. Thanks!
Everybody leaves the blinker on 😂
Nice. I like it alot
Mice used to do the same thing to my bikes in the garage . I got a couple cats , no more problems.
I have 2 cats also
It's me again nice bike man
Yeah man. How you been?
I'm sure there is a good reason for that brake line being like that, but it driving me crazy.
Inverted forks, they run up to now up too instead of by the fork tubes
Love my crf250l. . not the fastest but very fun!!!
A few mods really wake it up. A pipe is next for mine 😎they are Hella fun doe!
you've modified the hawk a lil...I'm sure after you do lil work here and there you'll like the honda. plus with this one has less maintenance looking forward to what all you do to this new toy
True...
+MotoCheez how do you turn on a motorcycle I want to get into motorcycling but idk how to turn is it like a bycycle or something or what is counter steering
It turns on by the key, then you push the starter button. Watch a bunch of videos and you can get an idea of how to ride. I've never done a "how to ride" video.
What happened with your TAO TAO TBR 7?? Didn't like that bike compared to the hawk??
Lol my this is in may of 16 lol. But where would you rate the TAO TAO TBR 7 to the hawk Honda?
Yeah, older video 😁 The Honda is a way better bike all the way around, but it cost 4 times what a TBR7 does. PS I have a DRZ400 too
What is the best supermoto to get if you're only 5 7 or 5 8? I want it to have a low saddle, be modern, lightweight, reliable, and be a fuel injected bike. If there is a good way to adjust the saddle on the bike that's fine with me
alex parrish hi. I believe this CRF250L is the lowest seat height efi bike out today. I added a softer lowering seat to mine made by seat concepts. I know they also make lowering kits. Plus if you're turning into a supermoto, the rims are smaller so it will also lower it. I'm 5'10" and I can touch almost flat footed on this bike with the lower seat. Stock seat is high and narrow. Can't ride long.
I'm 5' 10 and this Honda stock had me almost on my tip toes, I ended up buying a seat concepts lowering wide seat and it was a huge improvement. The CRF250L also has adjustable spring for rear shock, but the height is good for me now. Seems all the Dual-Sports out today are very tall,. The Hawk250 Chinese bikes have a low seat height, I can touch flat footed easily and the Magician 250 is even lower and smaller, but the Chinese bikes don't come fuel injected yet so they need a little tinkering.
I love mine
Inverted forks are consistantly heavier than non inverted forks.
Being a honda clone engine will the 249cc top end bolt on with proper piston. ?
I'm not sure..
@@MotoCheez if so with the bottom end has been proven bulletproof lol and has more or same power the top end would make it even stronger. Thus 70 75 mph obtained. And ditch the efi keeping it carbureted better mpg than efi.
so im thinks of buying a hawk or a crf250l i mostly do trails and offroad do you think the crf is worth the big money difference or ill be fine with a hawk and do you have any ideas about the ssr 250cc enduro they also have for around 3k online ?
Personally I think the CRF is overpriced, if your handy and like tinkering on bikes I say do the Hawk250. Not that the Honda is not a good bike, it's just not worth almost 5 times the Hawk.
+MotoCheez yeah i do love to play with the bikes thanks bro your saved me a couple thousand dollars , it first i thought the crf was like 100 times better but the hawk is a really good bike based on your vid i watched all of them lmao
+Adriano Montejo you can't beat it for the price!!
Instead of people of Walmart they need people of the DMV. LOL liked the vid!
Timothy Midkiff haha, TY that's a great idea.
is the 2016 crf 250L exhaust the same for the 2017, trying to get after market exhaust for my 2017 and fmf say they don't have one for the 2017 yet. please help. thank you
Michael Peterson I believe they are the same. Do they look the same on video? Doubt they changed
Michael Peterson - 2017 has a 2mm larger throttle body, larger intake box, larger header piping, o2 sensor, and different exhaust clambering, also new ecu. Makes 2.3hp more stock and they aren’t interchangeable, needs to be a 2017+ specific exhaust. Considering the stage 1 mods for a 2016 which are a filter, tune, and exhaust add 3 hp to it. There really isn’t a need to upgrade the 2017 it has that extra power stock. Just change to a 13T sprocket and you’re set
Do you recommend the Enduro Hawk? I'm willing to buy one soon
suspict1 yes. If you're fairly mechanically inclined to put the bike together and do a few mods here and there, you can't find another bike for the price range.
MotoCheez Actually I found one that is fully assembled :)
suspict1 even better!!
Nice bike man. Funny you would mention that exhaust. I have that exact exhaust on order. Should have it in a few weeks hopefully. Get a clean air filter and that sucker will run better. LOL
+Andrew93 let me know how much of an improvement there is. Nighthawk82 from the forums says it was the biggest power improvement.
Definitely will do man.
I plan on putting that one on my TT250 after I get it and break it in.
watched ur vid putting on new hawk exhaust - if its not highly classified hows about a clue on what it is and where to get one - jeeeezz dreew
Sure thing man. Search for a "crf230 exhaust" on eBay or Amazon and you'll see it
I am thinking of buying a CRF250L in the Thai market. Thanks for the video. It seems to run well. There are several modifications you can do: FMF full system and an exhaust box mod. These really release a lot of performance.
If you haven't already seen them, have a look at this chap's UA-cam videos; TheMissendenFlyer. He lives in England and has several bikes, one of them being the CRF, and he has done everything to it.
Nice, it's a good bike. I did a few mods already that made huge power gains, video on my channel, modified stick exhaust, don't really want it loud for when I'm riding in the woods. I ordered a seat concept seat too. After an hour your ass is hurting. Lol. I and subscribed to that guy, now I like his videos!! When you get your bike let me know how you like it and mods you do.
I certainly will. Thanks for getting back to me. Ride safe, bro.
+1990 😎👍🏼👍🏼 maybe even do a few video with your new bike
I nice new exhaust system and downsize to a 13 tooth front sprocket and you'll notice a big difference
StilwellMotovlogger I did the 13t front and a EJK and missed the exhaust tip airbox mod. Made a huge difference. Now I need a full exhaust like you said.
Quick question, at which speed do you recommend switching from gears so that you don't put too much stress on the engine? I'm new to motorcycles and would like to have mine last long.
Jesus Christ it's hard to explain. You have to listen to the engine. I would compare it to how an automatic transmission on a car shifts. If you're putting around you can shift at low RPMs and if you get on the gas to pass or something you rev it out. It takes a little while but you'll feel when the best time is to shift. Does that make sense?
MotoCheez
Thanks for the help! I plan on getting one too and making it black also, but I'm curious to know, will you get Warp 9 rims and convert it to a supermoto?
Jesus Christ if you're talking about the hawk, best place for information is chinariders.net. I know there are people who talked about it
MotoCheez
Oh no, I meant the CRF
Jesus Christ u don't change on ur speed
thank you for this
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Did you see Kawasakis dual sports when you went to trade in? I have a klx250s and it has 9300 miles but i was just wondering if u looked at the klx"s.
Squid Garage no, they didn't have any where I looked. They are nice though. How you like it?
MotoCheez its great! I got a bigger cam, a dynojet kit, a slip on, airbox mod and aftermarket shock in the back. All done to it and it great. It has a carb but starts great and is almost identical to my kx250f just not as peppy as expected but overall great bike its a 06.
+Squid Garage awesome, I grew up on Suzukis, live them!
+Squid Garage I meant they had no Kawis...
im thinking about getting this or the dr200s for mainly offroad use, do you know which one might handle offroading better?
The DR200 has 3" lower seat height, has the same clearance but less suspension travel than the crf250L. The DR is air cooled and carbureted the CRF is liquid cooled and EFI. I'd choose the CRF250L, it has better specs all the way around but it has a small 2 gallon tank which stinks!
alright thanks. I might look into this one once I get the money
+XtremeGaming123 👍🏼
What do you think is best place online to get a fully assembled hawk 250
TXpowersports! And you save money using Motocheez discount at checkout
I'm 6' 2" 220 Want a 250 dual sport as my first Bike would you suggest this bike?
+Matt Valade yes, it's a bit tall for me and I'm 5'10" I ended up getting a lowered seat from seat concepts. The seats on these are bad for long rides
Do you know exactly which bike the hawk motor was cloned from. I read the cg. But the only cg I can find is a 125. They had a cb 250. And an xl 250.
The CG 125s are the only one that made it to America, but Africa got a ton of the CG 250 engines. I'm not exactly sure what they called the bike over there but they're still running those bikes today very reliable
@@MotoCheez thank you! Any chance we can organize a CG clone ride? I saw y'all organized a hawk ride in 2016.
I want to. Now Rona almost done it may work out
@@MotoCheez that would be sweet. I'll volunteer if you need help organizing at any point
I'm in Florida for several more weeks. I'll let you know
just found this video and laughed as Last Month I sold my Harley Bad Boy and bought a 2016 CRF250L....
Hahaha! Awesome!!
Just got one of these too! They're fun, huh.
Hells yeah!!!
+MotoCheez can these hold me 230 lbs and 5 12 can It go freeway speed with me on it
Yeah, no problem. I'm 240 and it cruises 65
+MotoCheez oh OK
+MotoCheez oh OK do u know the price currently live in California soo..
I've been thinking about selling my Harley and buying one of these ! ! ! How do you like it ?!?!?
Grey Goose 4x4 Love it. Since you're a jeep guy too I'm sure you'd enjoy the on and off road factor. It's not fast on the highway but perfect for sneaking in where the jeep might be too big. Hehe
MotoCheez that's why I was thinking plus the equity in the fatbob would buy this brand new ... Also with the camper I can buy a lift and bring this along the Harley is just too heavy to tow on the camper with the jeep ...
Grey Goose 4x4 yep. That's why I did it too. I have a hitch motorcycle hauler for the jeep. Can't even feel the bike on the back
beautiful hood view
Ty
does the hawk have a Honda motor on it
ahmonde boxley the Hawk has a Chinese copy of the Honda CG250 motor.
Can you switxh the engines out like put the crf150l engine in the hawk
I'm not sure. That would be a good comparison. Or the crf 230...
The hawk is 2v the honda is 4v? This accounts for some of extra "snot".
Plus the hawk is carb and a 230cc
but can you get parts for the hawk?
Yes. Txpowersports carries almost every part.
how much did you buy the harley for?
I think I paid $3500. It was dropped on one side so I had to fix the brake lever and running board gas tank and a few other things
@@MotoCheez didn't realise i commented on a 4 year old video but you still replied, cheers. So for a clean swap was a brand new 250L worth it?
I believe so. Was a great bike!
I thought the Hawk 250 was designed off of the CRF230F.
It is, this is its big sister all grown up
What's shifting like
1 down 5 up or
2 down 4 up
On the Hawk it 1 down, 4 up. CRF is 1 d 5 u.
+MotoCheez thanks man I'm thinking about buying one to drive back and forth from work to save money on gas
Now is it not illegal to ride on street ...I think the colors save lives black blinds in with back ground road and that
Bright headlights too!
@@MotoCheez I did not see head light I missed that
how tall are you? and how does it feel under you in stop n go traffic
Chrisro0619 I'm 5' 10" 240lbs, it's light and nimble in traffic, a little under powered for the highway but will do it ok at 65.
is that a regal ambassador in the yard? my first boat !
jeremy roberts it's a Bayliner weekender.
Wonder if they're same boat maker?
Is it like the Hawk?
Honda suspension and quality is much better of course
I bought that exhaust for my hawk it hasn't come in yet.
Nice! Let me know how much better it is
hopefully I can get over 40 lol. Although it seems to be getting better.
+wc31416 that's crazy. Something must be wrong. Sure speedometer is right? Does it rev out high enough? Maybe hit up chinariders.net and see if anyone else had same issue.
Exhaust makes a huge difference. Carb may need to be adjusted.
+Andrew93 I've heard it's the biggest improvement, bigger than the carb. Is that true?
How tall are you ? pls tell me if a 5.3 would fit
I'm 5'10". They do make lowering kits for the hondas
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Can you adjust the seat height on the hawk?
alex parrish no. Non adjustable springs on rear
Honda, I'm going to get one of these for my first dirt bike (chook chaser ) i call them
Where can u get plastics for the crf250l
I only found one place in Taiwan. Full set with shipping is like $300
+MotoCheez do u remember the name of the site or place u got them from
David Wentland I guess it was a little over $200 bikerzbits.com/honda-crf250m-black-plastic-parts-set.html
It's geared for the street compared to that hawk I bet. 13 tooth front sprocket will wake the bike up a lot.
You're right. It dos wake it up pretty good!
+MotoCheez And if you really want to destroy your top speed, the 42 tooth rear sprocket turns it into a freakin' tractor.
+geoff650r I bet. It's perfect now.
I have the CSC TT250 which is extremely similar to a Hawk, and also a CRF250L. I love the way the TT250 handles off road. The gearing is awesome for the terrain that I ride. On the CRF250L, even with the 13t front sprocket, second gear is still useless on a lot of the steep hills we have here in California. I am hoping that the 42t rear will make it a bit more off-road oriented for the type of terrain that I ride.
Did you do any other mods? The EJK gave it a lot more torque. My Hawk had more low end torque before I installed that.
Can u get the hawk street legal in West Virginia
Jordan Mason I'm not sure. Check chinariders.net, they have a section for registrations by state.
14000k in mine. 2014 250L.still stock! Except tires...
Wow. That's impressive! Any issues with it?
actually I kinda lied, I had to change the clutch due to my own stupidity. Video is on my channel.
+roachsteve I'll check it out. 👍🏼
thx for the sub
+roachsteve 👍🏼
Damn brand new bike with a mouse nest id be pissed
I was!!
@@MotoCheez im not sure i wouldn't of threw a fit untill they gave me another bike
Deez Nuts they sent me a filter, but that’s about it... ya I should have asked for more. Plus they’re over an hour away
@@MotoCheez yea ive never heard of that unless a bike been in a barn for years 😔😔
Pretty sure the Hawk was built off the crf230. Nice bike tho man.
Yes it is. TY
this is a good bike because it cost 5,000 new and the wr250r is 6,900 new
rawaffect 👍🏼👍🏼 agreed!!
And about how much is that bike
It's like $5000
Traded in my Harley even for it
what state are you in? Sounds like MD or PA
Connecticut, close to NY
I was close! (kind of)
Yes. I'm about an hour from PA. The woods look the same
I could hear the east coast accent
I could hear the east coast accent
wow after removing that nest it probably ran like a sculded dog.....lol
bryan kestle LMFAO!! It did!
How much is the bike
It was $5000 new
Here's that exhaust install video for the hawk. ua-cam.com/video/sXdzPYizO6k/v-deo.html
what camera do you use?
riptillidie GoPro hero4 with a chin mount for the rides. Inventio HD video glasses for most the close repairs
thx man, really good quality on the vids keep it up!
riptillidie TY, 😎
In fact ...turnsignals may be at best as flashing " marker light"....for use in inclement weather...high density traffic...or any time you want an active attention grabber!!
The biggest difference will be the honda will last for 30 yrs. and the hawk will last 5
jeff ferguson that's about right.
im 5,6 would i fit on this
It might be a little tall. I'm 5'10 and it's tall for me. Sorry, thought I answered you earlier on here.
Lmao f*cking mice and their nests!
So damaging!
+MotoCheez I live on a dairy, we have rats that are like 10 inches long 😷
What the hell happened to that air filter?!
MICE!
But how? Wasn't it brand new? Did it came from the dealer like that?
+Emre.D it was brand new, put on showroom floor for a few weeks before I bought it. I put wire over all my air boxes. Mice terrible in this are. A lot of woods
link for exhaust please
Hawk 250 aluminum exhaust m.ebay.com/itm/221555825077?rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Ficep_ff3%3D2%26pub%3D5575173507%26toolid%3D10001%26campid%3D5337863918%26customid%3DHawk%2BExhaust%26icep_item%3D221555825077%26ipn%3Dpsmain%26icep_vectorid%3D229466%26kwid%3D902099%26mtid%3D824%26kw%3Dlg%26srcrot%3D711-53200-19255-0%26rvr_id%3D1052431438630&_mwBanner=1&ul_noapp=true
MotoCheez dont get this. it is an aluminum exaust. you then put it on a steel frame. it will also rust
Corey Renwick how will aluminum rust? I also have a link for Stainless Steel exhaust on MotoCheez.com
no aluminum speeds up the oxidation for steel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion
I'm 5'6 14...is this too tall
With the stock seat you'll probably touch tip toed, I can almost flat foot and I'm 5'10
6th gear is higher than the hawk? The hawk only has 5 gears 😂😂
Gear ratio wise! Lol
Oh, here's my new toy.
Mostly will be used to pickup and drop off customers cars but I ride the heck out of it on weekends.
Top speed around 60MPH
I put over 440 miles on it in two weeks.
ua-cam.com/video/Gk4UNjsE4Ts/v-deo.html
nice!
its got rust cause they put steel on aluminum
that cat is fucking huge
😄😄😄👍 yep!
My hawk has 5 gears?.. what?
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Why u have 6
@@airsoftvulture most bikes have 6 now.. not my DRZ400 though... Or the Hawk
I`m attached to my crf
Yes! tons of fun
Harley may be nice bike...but you really cannot "frolic" on the hd.
The honda is as superior to hd as one bike can be to another...