My feelings are the Q from PIC2 was from a far, far future from now. As he was dying, Q went back in time for one last visit with his favorite human. The Q we see in PIC3 is a more “current” Q.
@@Lordoftheapes79 Then you've completely missed the details. The Q from season 2 started off young and became old after he saw Picard had gotten old. The Q from Picard season 3 is still old so it's after season 2.
I agree. I also wonder how Captain Kirk and Captain Spock would react to “Q”. I think personally, Captain Spock would benefit greatly with the intervention of “Q”. By putting the Valcons on trial and helping Spock explore his humanity side, and how to mix both of them together. Or have Captain Kirk be the first person “Q” put on trial. The stories we could tell would be fantastic. Remember TOS only got 2 1/2 seasons worth of shows out before they went to the movies. There’s probably a lot more to be flushed out about the crew of the Enterprise-1701 on their second five-year mission under Kirk.
John De Lancie is one of the most handsome people and just gets better with age. In addition to that his wit and intelligence make him an iconic actor.
Hmm... here's a thought... The Q and the El-Aurians definitely have some history and there must have been a reason Q was wary of Guinan. The El-Aurian civilisation was all but destroyed by a conflict with the Borg. It would stand to reason that at least one (likely more) of the El-Aurians was assimilated by the Borg, and thus the collective would gain their knowledge of the Q as well, including potentially a way to harm the Q. That would make Q's warning to his son never to provoke the Borg a wise one. His introduction of the Enterprise crew to the Borg was not a direct provocation of the Borg, but could have been self-serving as a way to make sure the Borg would be preoccupied with the Federation and maybe even have the Federation eliminate the Borg threat to the Continuum. Q obviously has a soft spot for humanity (and Picard in particular) and this would have allowed him to both help out Picard, and ensure the safety of the Continuum.
TLDR: the Borg assimilate the El auriens.. learn of the Q and how to fight them. Q decides to use Humanity as a meat Shield rather than fight them head-on.
I’ve been entertaining the same thought since watching this episode. Really speaks to the threat level of the Borg if even the Q continuum start becoming worried about them. We already know, or at least suspect, Q's particular obsession with humanity might be due to their future potential, so who's to say they haven’t seen how powerful the borg will become. Powerful enough that even they can’t just wipe them out of all existence.
@@pwpresents5660here’s the thing though if the borg threaten the Q then they would’ve attained the same abilities as the Q therefore negating Q time travel so what’s up with that? At least with the temporal time war we saw the effects of changes in the past in the future… time travel is messed and OP
From what I've heard, it was apparently an idea that the writers thought twice about and abandoned. They didn't actually have an explanation for that. I guess leaving that plot line open for the fans to wonder about for the rest of their lives was their answer.
If the El Aurians could summon a Q at will with that drinking ceremony and the Borg knew this after assimilating Aurians, the Borg could use this to summon the Q at will. So Q didn’t want to press the issue with the Borg or remind the Borg that the Continuum was out there. Out of sight, out of mind basically.
Well, many a trekkie see Trelane as a prototype of Q, so it's not beyond the realm that he was indeed a Q, there's even a book written about such a revelation, with Q needing Picard to "look after" Trelane as he stated "He's driving me nuts!"... :P
you mention that Q are the most powerful. Don't forget the Dowd/Doud from the STNG episode. I don't recall the title, but he and his "wife" that he created, were the only 2 on that planet
"I didn't have his courage or his convictions. He called me irrepressible. This was a man who was truly irrepressible. I only hope I make a worthy student." - Q, 2372 ("Death Wish") the Quinn was seeking Euthanasia, very emotional episode
the el aurians were able to threaten the continuum just by living long and being snarky. The Q hated showing up at some historical event and finding an al aurian there who remembered them them from the past and starts roasting them over something that happened 300 years ago.
Look at Quinn's take on the continuum. Road. Scarecrow. Game. Perfect representation of Travellers, Watchers and Tricksters. The Dog is the Q who monitor and punish other Q.
My head canon: The Q and the El-Aurians once had a common ancestor. Let's call them the Qel. The Qel were preparing to take the next leap in their evolution. There was much dispute over just what direction this evolution should take. Some wanted to master time & space itself like gods. Others were more content to listen and observe the vastness of the cosmos up close. As the ages rolled on these two powerful races grew even farther apart and eventually forgot their shared lineage. Through war and cold war, fact was replaced with fable. While concessions were made, each side was raised on warnings to avoid the other or risk the most dire of consequences. Yes, it's quite similar to Vulcans & Romulans, Romulans & Reman and Andorians & Aenar. As they say, steal from the best.
Way to look at it Q in season 2 set up Picard to be ready for the events of season 3 especially Jack. Because human stuck mostly in linear time as he pointed out q isn't. The Q at end season 2 picard could already seen the events of season 3 so he prepared Picard with the strength to love Jack and help save him.
"Don't provoke the Borg". Should have been followed up by "The cleanup after messing with them is more unpleasant than with other species." I wouldn't think the Q would want the Borg spreading too far and assimilating everything and everyone that is not advanced enough to contain it. Should they do that, in some timeline where this happens, the Q might find that "resetting" and undoing all that because "The Borg are boring" is a tiresome chore nobody wants to deal with. The Borg being everywhere would invite universal stagnation that would cause the pre-Quinn era look like a holiday trip in comparison.
In one of the books, Q described the origin of the Q. There was the Big Bang. Two species were the first. The Q and the M. One looked at the other and asked who are you? The other said, “Your mother.” Thats when the fight started and it’s been going on ever since.
I always assumed "Don't provoke the Borg" was a warning to Q Jr that he wasn't ready to face them so freely. It's one thing for an experienced Q to place a starship against a Borg cube (if you remember, Q wasn't physically present for most of that) but Q Jr sat in the captain's chair to watch the event unfold firsthand because of his own hubris. Imagine if he was so enraptured with watching what was happening that he didn't notice a Borg come up behind him and assimilate him. One would think he could just whisk the nanites away but we've seen how quickly they can take control of a mind once assimilated. Imagine the Borg with the abilities of a Q.....
Or the Continuum's job is to enforce order in the universe, and provoking the Borg causes chaos which gets Q in trouble from the Continuum Also possible that the last time he provoked the Borg he got many humans killed, and he likes humans now and doesn't want that to happen
The Borg couldn't even assimilate Species 8472 which was still organic. No way they can assimilate non-corporeal superbeings like the Q. My interpretation is that the Q have, by and large, a non-interference guideline that Q sometimes likes to skirt around. But enraging the Borg and getting them to destroy more life than they were supposed to is dangerous if you aren't allowed to interfere to correct your mistake. It may even hint at the entire universe being a test tube for the Q, and upsetting the balance by provoking the Borg would endanger the experiment.
Nothing about the popular fan theory that the baby q is actually Trelane, from TOS "The Squire of Gothos"? I'm convinced that's who Trelane was; we even hear his parents come to retrieve him at the end of the episode, and they set everything right again.
There is a Star Trek Novel that explains that Trelane and all of the "super" beings that the TOS and TNG Enterprise ran into was a Q. A child Q, actually, as JD's Q had to finally step in and stop him. It seemed he liked "playing" with ships named, "Enterprise". Considering all the one-off super beings both series ran into, it makes sense. "Q-Squared" may be the book, it's as close as I could find using google search.
The biggest secret is that the entity was supposed to represent the return of the God Being Jesus to judge mankind. Also the Borg Cube is based on the New Jerusalem and the Saturn Brotherhood.
I recently had an idea that the Q species are basically the inevitable final evolution of life in the galaxy in the far far future and that Q(the character) has a preference for humanity as the final species, so he and the other Q are always tinkering with us and other species throught spacetime to basically push our culture and genetics along specific pathways to ensure that personality traits and profiles become dominant in their own present depending on whatever it is they want for themselves, so Q stages the Encounter at Farpoint because he needs humanity to pivot towards some minor feature he likes and guarantee our ascendance, other Q do the same to other species across the galaxy as the Q are inevitable(any species can potentially become the Q so their origin is always in flux even for themselves), it explains why they dislike the Borg because their presence and victory would seriously risk the Q ever being created and the El Aurians might threaten them because they can see pathways in reality that threaten the Q, Guinan is always advising Picard along certain ethical paths gently and carefully while Q is more aggressive and overt about it, similar tactics for pushing humanity towards a long distant future. It all kind of fits together, Q basically want us to do things that push us to being the best versions of ourselves to ensure that if we ascend they(the Q continuum) reap the benefits and if their needs or whims change then they'll help another species along and get it from them instead.
The Q from season 2 of Picard seems to be from the very distant future, maybe from the end of the Universe, that would explain the loss of power and him dying. Basically his life is tied to the Universe and when it dies so do they. Beings outside of Time or can be outside of time seem to be more on level with the Q, and are a threat to them. Most likely the Prophets are the same, and might be why Q was surprised when Sisko hit him and knocked him down. We even see Q check for blood on his lip. Sisko likely actually hurt Q because hes half Prophet, he just didn't know about that yet. The Q never showed up at DS9 after that, maybe they were warned to stay away by the Prophets.
Then how was Quinn able to transport Voyager before the start of the universe, that is, just before the Big Bang? As for the Prophets, why are they confined to one wormhole in the sector of one galaxy? Prophets seem pretty weak.
@Charndeep Bhangoo it wasn't before the beginning of the Universe, it was right before the Big Bang. The Universe came into being before the Big Bang in the form of a singularity
@@jacara1981 The Big Bag was the start of the Universe🤦♂...at least according to NASA, National Geographic, the American Museum of Natural History,...
@@charndeepbhangoo7556 Not exactly, now to be clear we are talking about Planck time units. The singularity came first, then something happened and it expanded. The expansion part is the Big Bang. However the Universe started with the singularity.
All Q exist from the beginning to the end of this universe, and probably many others. They kinda exist in all time at once. Picard was in the final years of his life, so the part of Q that finally ended his existence decided to share those moments with picard in his old age. Q hasn't gone anywhere.
For the last scene it would have been better to forget about Q visiting Jack, and show what happened to Laris. (Is she still wailing for JLP on Chaltok IV?)
A few thoughts: 1. The Q who appeared to Jack Crusher was the "old appearing Q". This at least implies this is a version of Q AFTER the events of Picard season 3. It seems likely that the Q exist in all points in time and they do not experience "death" the same way we do - as a traditional point in spacetime. 2. It is possible that the Q evolved from the El-arians. This would explain why they could be decimated by the Borg... but why the Q would not want to harm them as doing so might adversely affect their own past. It would explain how the two peoples could have a cold war. The El-aurians could threaten the Q with harm to themselves. It also might explain why Q knows Gainan. Perhaps she is a past, un-evolved version of a Q he knows... and loaths. 3. Q Jr. is likely Trelaine. They are both adolescent Qs who like toying with humans. It fits. 4. Many people read "Don't provoke the Borg" as a sign the Q are afraid of them. Two possibilities exist in my mind. 1. This is further evidence the Q evolved from El-aurians. Provoking the Borg might cause them to go after the El-aurians more forcefully - thus hurting the Q in their present. 2. They aren't afraid of the Borg at all. The Q are just annoyed at having to clean up Q Jr.'s messes so often. IMO the latter seems more likely.
The Q live outside of time. John De Lancie's Q could have visited the federation after his "death" in Picard Season 3. He could visit the heat death of the universe and the big bang. That is how I understood it.
The El Aurians are described as "listeners". One of their talents is to make people tell them more than they intended to. Perhaps this even worked on members of the continuum. So a Q might have revealed a little too much - about how to protect a species from just being erased and even how to post a thread on the continuum.
IIRC, Q called Guinan "multicellular" as an insult a couple times, and 1 Q punishment is to become an amoeba. Maybe the Q are ascended amoebas or other single celled organism? *Cue flashback to TOS "Immunity Syndrome" Giant Space Amoeba... *He also told Picard they cheated to get there(to their level)
The fact that El-Aurians are assimilated by Borg is probably the reason why the continuum tries to avoid provoking the Borg. The collective probably knows how to deal with Qs like how the El-Aurians did.
Q sent humanity, and specifically Picard, right to the Borg. This is because the Borg were a future threat. They're a multiversal hivemind driven towards perfection. The Q knew that putting the Enterprise in the path of that cube would eventually lead to the complete eradication of the current Borg, and replace them with a less aggressive version.
Excellently made video. My theory of Q is they are not really allowed to drastically affect course of natural progression. They can play with it but cannot totally change it. De Lancie Q seems to have screwed Picard's timeline too much and had to go fix it. And, he did it when Picard saw there's more to life and he showed deep love in self sacrifice & even for Q.
I think I figured out how the Q work. Long ago they were a mortal but highly advanced species. They then invented 'the continuum', a multi-dimensional matrix that they could tap into which allowed them to change probabilities. Whenever Q would snap his fingers he would change the probability of an event from happening. The probability of the crew of a starship disappearing and appearing in a different place, where particles happen to resemble a scene from Robin Hood isn't zero, and so Q makes the odds 100%. The El-Aurian's have a sense when the timestream is not right. Perhaps their abilities go beyond that as well. This ability allows them to see past the changes that Q makes, and maybe even correct them. The Borg, being a massive single minded entity, is potentially capable of adapting to the changes that a Q makes, and so they generally stay away from them. Q was ok sending the Enterprise to them because he wasn't directly dealing with them himself. Lastly, Q dying in Picard was Q from a vastly distant future, where perhaps something like extremely long exposure or use of 'the continuum' eventually kills them.
I think the main problem for the Q with the Borg is as long as they stay apart everything is okay but imagine a Q would be assimilated? Even if the Collective is not able to use the power but the knowledge the Q Posses would create a type of Borg you would not want to have.
#9: Or John DeLancie's Q made contact "until ~2510" BEFORE he "died". As he stated in the Picard finale (more or less): "primitive, human 3-dimensional, linear thinking"
9:46 - It wasn't Q who introduced the Federation to the Borg. That happened in TNG Season 1 "The Neutral Zone", in 'Q Who' he introduced the Enterprise-D to the Borg and that's when they realized it was the Borg that took out their bases in "The Neutral Zone". His interference is what allowed the Federation to put the puzzle pieces together.
The "don't provoke the Borg." line I always took as Q shohwing character growth and learning a lesson. He did get more rambunctious and less menacing as Trek went on in general. Kind of like the Joker being more of a prankster from 60 to 70's Batman comics.
Perhaps Q introduced Picard to The Borg because he knew it would ultimately lead to their downfall, and in turn, remove an enemy of The Q. Somewhat similar to how Doctor Strange saw many different outcomes but only found one path to victory. In Q's case, that path was through Picard.
About the "don't provoke the Borg" line, yes Q did introduce the crew of the Entreprise D to the Borg...but was stripped of his power the next time we saw him so we have to wonder if it was not a major reason for the continuum to punish him. The Q fear the El-Aurians, the Borg assimilate some El-Aurians so we can see why the continuum would see provoking the Borg as a big no-no.
But you forgot that the Q are also time travelers, so they can just have chosen to not interfear with the federation or star fleet after the end of the 25th century, thay can also live non linearly, so basically having cronology for them might not even make any sense (even though in voyager is kind of implied that they experience time linearly, and that the continuum has it's own timeline with a start).
#11 : At one time, Q stated that the Humans, just like a few other species have previously done before, WILL eventually evolve into Qs. So, the Qs are not a monolithic specie. There must have been a time when there where not any Q yet.
I didn't remember Suzy Plakson as a Q. But it makes sense, if you know her history with Star Trek. I don't remember Q Junior at all. Also, Hide and "Q" is not available on Paramount Plus, or at least not for me. To Ellie - It must be frustrating having to present all of these spoilers for a show you are currently watching. I'm very sorry; I thin k I would hate it. The sacrifices we make for our jobs... It is appreciated.
Q didn't bother to undo what Admiral Janeway did at the very end of Voyager. We got to see the later evidence of what that little virus did in the long term at the end of Picard 3. I do wonder what Q thought of this version of the Borg dying while having an alternate version being allies with the Federation.
My head canon has always been that Q helped the Borg against the El-Aureans. But I’ve always found it interesting that Starfleet knew of “El-Aurean refugees” during the time of 1701-B’s maiden voyage but apparently didn’t know why they were refugees or why they were running away. Q possibly shielded The Federation from the Borg until the events in “Q Who” and because at the end of TNG season one episode “The Neutral Zone,” The Borg were already at the Federation’s “doorstep” and he knew he needed to introduce them to give Tge Federation a chance.
That's the trouble with time travelers. The last time you see them could very easily be the first time they see you, or the other way around. Like with Daniels, on Archer's Enterprise. His death, in the episode of his character's first appearance, was the last time Daniels visited the Enterprise, not the first.
The Daniels storyline is why I just kind of shrugged at Q's death because between that and Q's previous shenanigans it's obvious that unless you burn the body and spread the ashes, they may well come back to life.
"Don't Provoke the BORG!" is probably one of my favorite lines from Voyager. I think the Q see the BORG a lot like humans see fire. If contained and controlled by someone who knows what they are doing fire isn't a threat but one careless mistake and all of a sudden not only can that fire burn you but it can quickly grow beyond your (or anyone's) controle, over power you and consume everything. Funnily enough, this is almost exactly where we are with A.I. at the moment, right now it is the little flame at the end of a lighter, try not to drop it.
Did they actually say or show why and what Q was dying from in picard season 2. Strange that other Q's didn't stepped in, and no mention of his son and wife. the Q in the novels are more fleshed out when dealing with Q's mortality and threats to it.
Considering that Q showed to talk to Jack in Picard season 3, Qs are similar to Time Lords. Time isn’t linear to them. Why would the interfere in a nonevent?
@@tringuyen7519 A Q dying is a pretty big event given their history on dealing with their own mortality concerning Q's ... also Q's Wife and Son, I would think it'll be a pretty big event for them, and that's why they would interfere.
@@tringuyen7519 Q in season 3 is old. He's after season 2 Q which makes it linear. I hope he's not the real Q but somebody with a holographic disguise, maybe Wesley Crusher?
There are several Q themed Books from the series. High recommendation that you read them if you want to learn more. ALSO maybe the El'orians are the precursor or actually the Next step that the Q are heading into.
Headcannon: Q showed the Borg to the Ent-D because he knew the Federation could ultimately destroy them, because the Q were legitimately scared of the Borg. This also explains why the El Aurians would be able to hurt the Q but be devastated by the Borg. Despite how they seemed, the Borg were possibly the greatest threat to all life in the galaxy.
Guinan’s people probably had weapons that could hurt/destroy the Q Continuum, hence the Cold War, but didn’t have defensive capabilities against overwhelming floods of Borg drones or the right platforms to strike the Borg in regular 3D space. Why couldn’t a Q take out the weapons? Plot armor.
My headcanon is that Guinan knew quite a bit more about timelines, and just acted ignorant to keep linear humans from treating her like a fortune teller
My theory on the Borg-Elorian-Q dynamic is that the ELorians were close enough to the Q's power that they could pose a threat, but still mortal enough the borg could get them, the Q realized this and pushed the borg into them causing the borg to gain some ability to hurt the Q this the reason for the dynamic (you do not provoke the borg) and the cold war.
Nothing about Q made sense in Season 2 of Picard. I mean he cannot snap Picards ancestor away or Guinan as if he has lost quite a bit power. Then at the end he just snapped everyone back to where they started in time and brought back Romulan Legolas. I do not believe they are afraid of the Borg nor are they afraid of Guinan.
The Q introduced the borg to the federation to start a proxy war. Plus since the continuum has stagnated so the federation's ability to innovate make them a fairly good choice to throw at the borg.
The Q didn't throw Janeway at the Borg and she ended up crippling them. Q's advice about the borg was simply in Humanity's interests, the borg aren't of any interest to the Q.
@digitalcurrents I disagree, "don't provoke the borg" is a rule for a reason. He made the federation aware of them so they would be able to fight them on the continuum's behalf. Janeway was still working on a base knowledge the federation had and 7, Janeway's window into the collective, would never have been assimilated if humans had never encountered then borg.
@@poopsled I still think the saying "don't provoke the borg' is like a parent telling a child not to stir up the ant colony in the back garden. Q did plenty of things with Picard, Janeway, and Sisco that aren't borg related.
There has been speculation for some time about the Q being responsible for creating the Borg, given the fact that it was John De Lancie's Q who first introduced the Borg in NG and his continued involvement in Borg story lines, i do believe there may indeed be reasons for that. The Borg but do the Borg know if the Q, i doubt the Q have ever been assimilated. So the curious question is what is the connection between the two species?
Dark horse: Olivia d'Abo reprises her role as Amanda Rogers, and pesters Seven and the crew of the G. She would be innately fascinated by humans, after all. No disrespect to John de Lancie, but we need new stories.
If it was a cold war, that suggests the Ellorians threatened the Continuum indirectly. You know, I always imagined the Q not as individuals but rather as a, well, continuum. Eveything that looks like at Q is a section of that continuum. And they all get to be everything and everyone. So who knows? I like not really understanding. It's full of wonder. :)
At 4:20 Q JR stated to be 1st new Q concieved in a millenia. At 5:37 Amanda Rogers was concieved by another continueum duo twentysome years prior. How long is a milennia?
This might be a stupid question, but didn’t the Borg Queen die in Star Trek First Contact? It was the same Borg Queen as the one we saw in Picard season 3.
Well either because of poor writing or because of in universe shenanigans. The Borg Queen has multiple bodies and multiple ways of getting around. The Borg Queen is actually just a program that inhabits one of the drones for a body. From there she could either teleport over to one of the other ships or she can just pick another drown and have that body as well but so the Borg Queen can be in multiple places at once. The one that died in first Contact was merely just an avatar the queen. The one that we see at the end of Picard however is more likely the one that probably died in the unit complex or nearly died in the unit complex when Janeway destroyed them with a neurolytic pathogen.
I'm in IT. I've been a Systems Administrator. I've had accounts that were members of the Enterprise Administrators group (for those of you that don't know what that means, it means that there was literally nothing to which I didn't have permissions. That even included the CEOs laptop). I was effectively omniscient. It wasn't that I knew everything at any moment in time, but that I had the ability to know anything at any moment in time. That's the Q.
I don't think the final takeaway from the execution of Amanda's parents was that they were killed *because* they used their powers, but rather that the Continuum sent a tornado to kill the humans they has become, and the couple used their powers to save their daughter. The fact that they used their powers just became a convenient excuse after the fact.
Also given how the Q habitually stripped their own of their powers when they rebelled, I don't see why they couldn't just have done the same with Amanda's parents. Maybe they were too powerful, or the Q feared it would foment unrest among their ranks if they exiled dissidents to die. Or the plan to create Amanda was their goal from the get-go.
Purpose and meaning are created and the best quality life can be obtained by bringing other compatible humans, domesticated animals, and other life around you and loving them and being loved. This would also work for the Q.
My Theory: Q from Picard Season 2 is dead. Q from Picard Season 3 is Wesley using advanced hologram technology to interact with his brother to relate with him while saving the Galaxy.
Given the success of Picard S3 and the flop that S1 and S2 was, it might be best to see S2 as "just a Q game" and take nothing that happened there serious. It would explain a lot and give some peace of mind. And Q just stays the godlike being. That way we can look happily forward to a great spinoff with the next next generation.
Possible speculation. The El-Aurians were able to create weapons akin to those used in the Q civil war. Pherhaps this is where those weapons came from. This makes sense with the cold war reference. The Q have the raw powers, but the El-Aurains having a means of killing them. It's the classic standoff situation.
Q introduced Picard's crew to the borg to teach them about a new threat and have them learn some humility. When a lesson in humility comes from Q, that says something! I agree with those saying Q Jr being told not to provoke the borg is because of what they can do to other soecies, rather tgan the Collective themselves. Q likes to play the part of trickester, but there's always more to it tgan tgat. "It is the wise man who plays the fool"
My feelings are the Q from PIC2 was from a far, far future from now. As he was dying, Q went back in time for one last visit with his favorite human. The Q we see in PIC3 is a more “current” Q.
Or the showrunner of Picard season 3 needed to "undo" Kurtzman's mess of seasons 1&2.
@@charndeepbhangoo7556 no, they very clearly specified how the events of PIC2 were not undone. Stop thinking so linearly.
I mean, I've seen enough Doctor Who, that I got it immediately. When you're dealing with time travel, things don't always happen in the right order.
@@Lordoftheapes79 exactly.
@@Lordoftheapes79 Then you've completely missed the details. The Q from season 2 started off young and became old after he saw Picard had gotten old. The Q from Picard season 3 is still old so it's after season 2.
Q Jr was played by John's real son, Keegan. For those wondering, he still had to audition for the role. Tha was his last acting credit.
Q is the best recurring character in all of Star Trek and he is simply amazing and if they do a Jack Crusher spin off I REALLY hope he is prominent
Hell yeah
I'd like to see some background on the Q and if Wesley and the travellers are linked could be a good premise for a show
I agree. I also wonder how Captain Kirk and Captain Spock would react to “Q”. I think personally, Captain Spock would benefit greatly with the intervention of “Q”. By putting the Valcons on trial and helping Spock explore his humanity side, and how to mix both of them together. Or have Captain Kirk be the first person “Q” put on trial. The stories we could tell would be fantastic. Remember TOS only got 2 1/2 seasons worth of shows out before they went to the movies. There’s probably a lot more to be flushed out about the crew of the Enterprise-1701 on their second five-year mission under Kirk.
I think Q Jr. Will be Jack Crusher's Q.
@@dglenn29301 I didn’t even know there was a Q Junior
John De Lancie is one of the most handsome people and just gets better with age. In addition to that his wit and intelligence make him an iconic actor.
Hmm... here's a thought... The Q and the El-Aurians definitely have some history and there must have been a reason Q was wary of Guinan. The El-Aurian civilisation was all but destroyed by a conflict with the Borg. It would stand to reason that at least one (likely more) of the El-Aurians was assimilated by the Borg, and thus the collective would gain their knowledge of the Q as well, including potentially a way to harm the Q. That would make Q's warning to his son never to provoke the Borg a wise one. His introduction of the Enterprise crew to the Borg was not a direct provocation of the Borg, but could have been self-serving as a way to make sure the Borg would be preoccupied with the Federation and maybe even have the Federation eliminate the Borg threat to the Continuum. Q obviously has a soft spot for humanity (and Picard in particular) and this would have allowed him to both help out Picard, and ensure the safety of the Continuum.
TLDR: the Borg assimilate the El auriens.. learn of the Q and how to fight them. Q decides to use Humanity as a meat Shield rather than fight them head-on.
I’ve been entertaining the same thought since watching this episode.
Really speaks to the threat level of the Borg if even the Q continuum start becoming worried about them.
We already know, or at least suspect, Q's particular obsession with humanity might be due to their future potential, so who's to say they haven’t seen how powerful the borg will become. Powerful enough that even they can’t just wipe them out of all existence.
@@pwpresents5660here’s the thing though if the borg threaten the Q then they would’ve attained the same abilities as the Q therefore negating Q time travel so what’s up with that? At least with the temporal time war we saw the effects of changes in the past in the future… time travel is messed and OP
From what I've heard, it was apparently an idea that the writers thought twice about and abandoned. They didn't actually have an explanation for that. I guess leaving that plot line open for the fans to wonder about for the rest of their lives was their answer.
If the El Aurians could summon a Q at will with that drinking ceremony and the Borg knew this after assimilating Aurians, the Borg could use this to summon the Q at will. So Q didn’t want to press the issue with the Borg or remind the Borg that the Continuum was out there. Out of sight, out of mind basically.
I hope the Q are never fully explained. Sometimes the unknown is the best aspect of a character.
Maury Ginsberg was not a "famous musician". He was a spotlight operator at Woodstock who met his future wife and died as a dentist.
The groovy chick in the red beads!!!
The tech from Q and the Grey goes a long way to explain Trelanes machines in TOS
Well, many a trekkie see Trelane as a prototype of Q, so it's not beyond the realm that he was indeed a Q, there's even a book written about such a revelation, with Q needing Picard to "look after" Trelane as he stated "He's driving me nuts!"... :P
Yes Trellayne was kind of ret-conned into being a Q
@@twocvbloke Remember, Trelane was a child, sort of a Q-brat like Q2. His parents actually apologized to Kirk for his troubles.
What about the Metrons and the Organians?
The clowns of New Trek have turned God-like beings into a bunch of soap-opera bozos.
"Hip-hip hoorah. Tally ho!"
I loved that Q Jr was played by DeLancie’s irl son. He looks just like his dad and thus carried himself in a similar manner.
you mention that Q are the most powerful. Don't forget the Dowd/Doud from the STNG episode. I don't recall the title, but he and his "wife" that he created, were the only 2 on that planet
"I didn't have his courage or his convictions.
He called me irrepressible.
This was a man who was truly irrepressible.
I only hope I make a worthy student."
- Q, 2372 ("Death Wish")
the Quinn was seeking Euthanasia, very emotional episode
Tremendously emotional. One of my favorites.
the el aurians were able to threaten the continuum just by living long and being snarky. The Q hated showing up at some historical event and finding an al aurian there who remembered them them from the past and starts roasting them over something that happened 300 years ago.
I have to say.....I could listen to Ellie talk all day....
She has the most BEAUTIFUL AUTHENTIC ENGLISH VOICE!!!!
The romulan supernova was John delancey's Q dying 😆
I think Qs concerns with provoking the Borg was not out of fear, but the fact they could easily upset the balance of the entire galaxy.
"Don't stick your junk in a beehive. This tree is full of innocent squirrel babies. They'll get stung."
Look at Quinn's take on the continuum. Road. Scarecrow. Game. Perfect representation of Travellers, Watchers and Tricksters. The Dog is the Q who monitor and punish other Q.
My head canon: The Q and the El-Aurians once had a common ancestor. Let's call them the Qel. The Qel were preparing to take the next leap in their evolution. There was much dispute over just what direction this evolution should take. Some wanted to master time & space itself like gods. Others were more content to listen and observe the vastness of the cosmos up close. As the ages rolled on these two powerful races grew even farther apart and eventually forgot their shared lineage. Through war and cold war, fact was replaced with fable. While concessions were made, each side was raised on warnings to avoid the other or risk the most dire of consequences.
Yes, it's quite similar to Vulcans & Romulans, Romulans & Reman and Andorians & Aenar. As they say, steal from the best.
Or those Ancients and the Ascended in Stargate SG1.
Picard Season 2: *kills Q*
Picard Season 3: 'i'm just gonna ignore that'
good move by Terry lol
No mention I saw of the awesomeness of the Continuum and the supernovae phenomenon that brought Voyager into the mix with their war.
Aw, no mention of Trelane from "The Squire of Gothos"? There have been several extended universe stories that have implied he's part of the continuum.
Would love to see a return Star Trek Theme Park.
We need a season or 2 of just Q and the Continuum
Q is my favorite character in Star trek of all time
No.11; They can't take a punch, as Sisko proved... :P
Being that Q was in the end credit scene of Picard season 3, I’ll just pretend season 2 never happened
Way to look at it Q in season 2 set up Picard to be ready for the events of season 3 especially Jack. Because human stuck mostly in linear time as he pointed out q isn't. The Q at end season 2 picard could already seen the events of season 3 so he prepared Picard with the strength to love Jack and help save him.
"Don't provoke the Borg". Should have been followed up by "The cleanup after messing with them is more unpleasant than with other species." I wouldn't think the Q would want the Borg spreading too far and assimilating everything and everyone that is not advanced enough to contain it. Should they do that, in some timeline where this happens, the Q might find that "resetting" and undoing all that because "The Borg are boring" is a tiresome chore nobody wants to deal with. The Borg being everywhere would invite universal stagnation that would cause the pre-Quinn era look like a holiday trip in comparison.
My thoughts as well that the Q find them boring. Provoking them could accelerate them making the whole galaxy boring.
In one of the books, Q described the origin of the Q. There was the Big Bang. Two species were the first. The Q and the M. One looked at the other and asked who are you? The other said, “Your mother.” Thats when the fight started and it’s been going on ever since.
I always assumed "Don't provoke the Borg" was a warning to Q Jr that he wasn't ready to face them so freely. It's one thing for an experienced Q to place a starship against a Borg cube (if you remember, Q wasn't physically present for most of that) but Q Jr sat in the captain's chair to watch the event unfold firsthand because of his own hubris.
Imagine if he was so enraptured with watching what was happening that he didn't notice a Borg come up behind him and assimilate him. One would think he could just whisk the nanites away but we've seen how quickly they can take control of a mind once assimilated. Imagine the Borg with the abilities of a Q.....
Or the Continuum's job is to enforce order in the universe, and provoking the Borg causes chaos which gets Q in trouble from the Continuum
Also possible that the last time he provoked the Borg he got many humans killed, and he likes humans now and doesn't want that to happen
The Borg couldn't even assimilate Species 8472 which was still organic. No way they can assimilate non-corporeal superbeings like the Q.
My interpretation is that the Q have, by and large, a non-interference guideline that Q sometimes likes to skirt around. But enraging the Borg and getting them to destroy more life than they were supposed to is dangerous if you aren't allowed to interfere to correct your mistake. It may even hint at the entire universe being a test tube for the Q, and upsetting the balance by provoking the Borg would endanger the experiment.
Maybe the reason Q's summoning was delayed was because he was talking to Jack?
Nothing about the popular fan theory that the baby q is actually Trelane, from TOS "The Squire of Gothos"? I'm convinced that's who Trelane was; we even hear his parents come to retrieve him at the end of the episode, and they set everything right again.
There is a Star Trek Novel that explains that Trelane and all of the "super" beings that the TOS and TNG Enterprise ran into was a Q. A child Q, actually, as JD's Q had to finally step in and stop him. It seemed he liked "playing" with ships named, "Enterprise". Considering all the one-off super beings both series ran into, it makes sense. "Q-Squared" may be the book, it's as close as I could find using google search.
Q even sounds like Trelaine in Encounter at Far Point.
The biggest secret is that the entity was supposed to represent the return of the God Being Jesus to judge mankind. Also the Borg Cube is based on the New Jerusalem and the Saturn Brotherhood.
@@krisgonynor689 it is.
I recently had an idea that the Q species are basically the inevitable final evolution of life in the galaxy in the far far future and that Q(the character) has a preference for humanity as the final species, so he and the other Q are always tinkering with us and other species throught spacetime to basically push our culture and genetics along specific pathways to ensure that personality traits and profiles become dominant in their own present depending on whatever it is they want for themselves, so Q stages the Encounter at Farpoint because he needs humanity to pivot towards some minor feature he likes and guarantee our ascendance, other Q do the same to other species across the galaxy as the Q are inevitable(any species can potentially become the Q so their origin is always in flux even for themselves), it explains why they dislike the Borg because their presence and victory would seriously risk the Q ever being created and the El Aurians might threaten them because they can see pathways in reality that threaten the Q, Guinan is always advising Picard along certain ethical paths gently and carefully while Q is more aggressive and overt about it, similar tactics for pushing humanity towards a long distant future.
It all kind of fits together, Q basically want us to do things that push us to being the best versions of ourselves to ensure that if we ascend they(the Q continuum) reap the benefits and if their needs or whims change then they'll help another species along and get it from them instead.
The Q from season 2 of Picard seems to be from the very distant future, maybe from the end of the Universe, that would explain the loss of power and him dying. Basically his life is tied to the Universe and when it dies so do they.
Beings outside of Time or can be outside of time seem to be more on level with the Q, and are a threat to them. Most likely the Prophets are the same, and might be why Q was surprised when Sisko hit him and knocked him down. We even see Q check for blood on his lip. Sisko likely actually hurt Q because hes half Prophet, he just didn't know about that yet. The Q never showed up at DS9 after that, maybe they were warned to stay away by the Prophets.
Then how was Quinn able to transport Voyager before the start of the universe, that is, just before the Big Bang? As for the Prophets, why are they confined to one wormhole in the sector of one galaxy? Prophets seem pretty weak.
@Charndeep Bhangoo it wasn't before the beginning of the Universe, it was right before the Big Bang. The Universe came into being before the Big Bang in the form of a singularity
@@jacara1981 The Big Bag was the start of the Universe🤦♂...at least according to NASA, National Geographic, the American Museum of Natural History,...
@@charndeepbhangoo7556 Not exactly, now to be clear we are talking about Planck time units. The singularity came first, then something happened and it expanded. The expansion part is the Big Bang. However the Universe started with the singularity.
@@jacara1981 What is your proof?
All Q exist from the beginning to the end of this universe, and probably many others.
They kinda exist in all time at once.
Picard was in the final years of his life, so the part of Q that finally ended his existence decided to share those moments with picard in his old age. Q hasn't gone anywhere.
"The vaunted Q Continuum--self-anointed of the universe." - Kathryn Janeway, 2372
For the last scene it would have been better to forget about Q visiting Jack, and show what happened to Laris. (Is she still wailing for JLP on Chaltok IV?)
A few thoughts:
1. The Q who appeared to Jack Crusher was the "old appearing Q". This at least implies this is a version of Q AFTER the events of Picard season 3. It seems likely that the Q exist in all points in time and they do not experience "death" the same way we do - as a traditional point in spacetime.
2. It is possible that the Q evolved from the El-arians. This would explain why they could be decimated by the Borg... but why the Q would not want to harm them as doing so might adversely affect their own past. It would explain how the two peoples could have a cold war. The El-aurians could threaten the Q with harm to themselves. It also might explain why Q knows Gainan. Perhaps she is a past, un-evolved version of a Q he knows... and loaths.
3. Q Jr. is likely Trelaine. They are both adolescent Qs who like toying with humans. It fits.
4. Many people read "Don't provoke the Borg" as a sign the Q are afraid of them. Two possibilities exist in my mind. 1. This is further evidence the Q evolved from El-aurians. Provoking the Borg might cause them to go after the El-aurians more forcefully - thus hurting the Q in their present. 2. They aren't afraid of the Borg at all. The Q are just annoyed at having to clean up Q Jr.'s messes so often. IMO the latter seems more likely.
I wonder if Q jr would be reintroduce and take up his father's mantel in ST: Legacy
The Q live outside of time. John De Lancie's Q could have visited the federation after his "death" in Picard Season 3. He could visit the heat death of the universe and the big bang. That is how I understood it.
The El Aurians are described as "listeners". One of their talents is to make people tell them more than they intended to. Perhaps this even worked on members of the continuum. So a Q might have revealed a little too much - about how to protect a species from just being erased and even how to post a thread on the continuum.
I hate it when threads randomly appear in the continuum...
Hmmm. El Aurians are "Listeners", while the Borg speak: "Locutus" & "Vox"...
IIRC, Q called Guinan "multicellular" as an insult a couple times, and 1 Q punishment is to become an amoeba. Maybe the Q are ascended amoebas or other single celled organism? *Cue flashback to TOS "Immunity Syndrome" Giant Space Amoeba...
*He also told Picard they cheated to get there(to their level)
The fact that El-Aurians are assimilated by Borg is probably the reason why the continuum tries to avoid provoking the Borg. The collective probably knows how to deal with Qs like how the El-Aurians did.
The Borg assimilated the El-Aurian's who had a special relationship with the Q, so that's probably why the Q avoided the Borg.
Q sent humanity, and specifically Picard, right to the Borg. This is because the Borg were a future threat. They're a multiversal hivemind driven towards perfection. The Q knew that putting the Enterprise in the path of that cube would eventually lead to the complete eradication of the current Borg, and replace them with a less aggressive version.
Excellently made video. My theory of Q is they are not really allowed to drastically affect course of natural progression. They can play with it but cannot totally change it. De Lancie Q seems to have screwed Picard's timeline too much and had to go fix it. And, he did it when Picard saw there's more to life and he showed deep love in self sacrifice & even for Q.
I think I figured out how the Q work. Long ago they were a mortal but highly advanced species. They then invented 'the continuum', a multi-dimensional matrix that they could tap into which allowed them to change probabilities. Whenever Q would snap his fingers he would change the probability of an event from happening. The probability of the crew of a starship disappearing and appearing in a different place, where particles happen to resemble a scene from Robin Hood isn't zero, and so Q makes the odds 100%. The El-Aurian's have a sense when the timestream is not right. Perhaps their abilities go beyond that as well. This ability allows them to see past the changes that Q makes, and maybe even correct them. The Borg, being a massive single minded entity, is potentially capable of adapting to the changes that a Q makes, and so they generally stay away from them. Q was ok sending the Enterprise to them because he wasn't directly dealing with them himself. Lastly, Q dying in Picard was Q from a vastly distant future, where perhaps something like extremely long exposure or use of 'the continuum' eventually kills them.
It was not established that Q really died or that the 'point I cannot see beyond' was his approaching death.
I think Guinan knows because part of her remains within the nexus.
I think the main problem for the Q with the Borg is as long as they stay apart everything is okay but imagine a Q would be assimilated?
Even if the Collective is not able to use the power but the knowledge the Q Posses
would create a type of Borg you would not want to have.
#9: Or John DeLancie's Q made contact "until ~2510" BEFORE he "died". As he stated in the Picard finale (more or less): "primitive, human 3-dimensional, linear thinking"
9:46 - It wasn't Q who introduced the Federation to the Borg. That happened in TNG Season 1 "The Neutral Zone", in 'Q Who' he introduced the Enterprise-D to the Borg and that's when they realized it was the Borg that took out their bases in "The Neutral Zone". His interference is what allowed the Federation to put the puzzle pieces together.
Wait a minute, Amanda Rogers was the first new Q born not Q junior.
The "don't provoke the Borg." line I always took as Q shohwing character growth and learning a lesson. He did get more rambunctious and less menacing as Trek went on in general. Kind of like the Joker being more of a prankster from 60 to 70's Batman comics.
Always makes me wonder what would happen if a Q came up against a Douwd. The being that wiped out all the Husnock everywhere in a fit of rage.
Perhaps Q introduced Picard to The Borg because he knew it would ultimately lead to their downfall, and in turn, remove an enemy of The Q. Somewhat similar to how Doctor Strange saw many different outcomes but only found one path to victory. In Q's case, that path was through Picard.
Then that would be foolish. The Q could just snap his fingers and end the Borg.
Foolish Mortals!
About the "don't provoke the Borg" line, yes Q did introduce the crew of the Entreprise D to the Borg...but was stripped of his power the next time we saw him so we have to wonder if it was not a major reason for the continuum to punish him.
The Q fear the El-Aurians, the Borg assimilate some El-Aurians so we can see why the continuum would see provoking the Borg as a big no-no.
But you forgot that the Q are also time travelers, so they can just have chosen to not interfear with the federation or star fleet after the end of the 25th century, thay can also live non linearly, so basically having cronology for them might not even make any sense (even though in voyager is kind of implied that they experience time linearly, and that the continuum has it's own timeline with a start).
I remeber watching John DeLancey on a soap opera in the 80's. I was thrilled to see him in this iconic part.
Patrick Stewart is currently appearing from various realities in the multiverse on talk shows.
#11 : At one time, Q stated that the Humans, just like a few other species have previously done before, WILL eventually evolve into Qs. So, the Qs are not a monolithic specie. There must have been a time when there where not any Q yet.
It's the Q-Continuum, who in collaboration with Section 31, are responsible for Worf never winning a game of poker after "The Emissary."
I didn't remember Suzy Plakson as a Q. But it makes sense, if you know her history with Star Trek.
I don't remember Q Junior at all.
Also, Hide and "Q" is not available on Paramount Plus, or at least not for me.
To Ellie - It must be frustrating having to present all of these spoilers for a show you are currently watching. I'm very sorry; I thin k I would hate it. The sacrifices we make for our jobs... It is appreciated.
Suzy Plakson and Q junior (who was played by Keegan De Lancie his son IRL) were both on Voyager and not The Next Generation.
@@elweese It's been a while and memory fades. I think I must have missed a lot of the last few seasons of Voyager. Which only means I need to rewatch.
Q didn't bother to undo what Admiral Janeway did at the very end of Voyager. We got to see the later evidence of what that little virus did in the long term at the end of Picard 3. I do wonder what Q thought of this version of the Borg dying while having an alternate version being allies with the Federation.
My head canon has always been that Q helped the Borg against the El-Aureans. But I’ve always found it interesting that Starfleet knew of “El-Aurean refugees” during the time of 1701-B’s maiden voyage but apparently didn’t know why they were refugees or why they were running away. Q possibly shielded The Federation from the Borg until the events in “Q Who” and because at the end of TNG season one episode “The Neutral Zone,” The Borg were already at the Federation’s “doorstep” and he knew he needed to introduce them to give Tge Federation a chance.
Would like to see an episode of star trek that explains the relationship between Guinan's people and the Q'tinium.
I'm wondering if the El-Aurians are a pre-Q species. Or if the El-Aurians and Q share a common ancestor like the Vulcans and Romulans did.
That's the trouble with time travelers. The last time you see them could very easily be the first time they see you, or the other way around.
Like with Daniels, on Archer's Enterprise. His death, in the episode of his character's first appearance, was the last time Daniels visited the Enterprise, not the first.
The Daniels storyline is why I just kind of shrugged at Q's death because between that and Q's previous shenanigans it's obvious that unless you burn the body and spread the ashes, they may well come back to life.
"Don't Provoke the BORG!" is probably one of my favorite lines from Voyager. I think the Q see the BORG a lot like humans see fire. If contained and controlled by someone who knows what they are doing fire isn't a threat but one careless mistake and all of a sudden not only can that fire burn you but it can quickly grow beyond your (or anyone's) controle, over power you and consume everything. Funnily enough, this is almost exactly where we are with A.I. at the moment, right now it is the little flame at the end of a lighter, try not to drop it.
I'd assumed that the "new era" that Quinn mentioned was the start of our Universe with The Big Bang.
Did they actually say or show why and what Q was dying from in picard season 2. Strange that other Q's didn't stepped in, and no mention of his son and wife. the Q in the novels are more fleshed out when dealing with Q's mortality and threats to it.
A side effect of the species evolution in Voyager, i imagine.
Considering that Q showed to talk to Jack in Picard season 3, Qs are similar to Time Lords. Time isn’t linear to them. Why would the interfere in a nonevent?
@@tringuyen7519 A Q dying is a pretty big event given their history on dealing with their own mortality concerning Q's ... also Q's Wife and Son, I would think it'll be a pretty big event for them, and that's why they would interfere.
@@tringuyen7519 Q in season 3 is old. He's after season 2 Q which makes it linear. I hope he's not the real Q but somebody with a holographic disguise, maybe Wesley Crusher?
Why would they need to say anything about why he was dying?
I loved Picard the show!!! Seeing Q was very emotional for me cause my late father and I got into ST at that time.
Oh, and here I was hoping the next generation wouldn't think so linearly.
There are several Q themed Books from the series. High recommendation that you read them if you want to learn more. ALSO maybe the El'orians are the precursor or actually the Next step that the Q are heading into.
I'd bet that the elaurians and the q are the same species, and that they disagreed with how to evolve.
Headcannon: Q showed the Borg to the Ent-D because he knew the Federation could ultimately destroy them, because the Q were legitimately scared of the Borg. This also explains why the El Aurians would be able to hurt the Q but be devastated by the Borg.
Despite how they seemed, the Borg were possibly the greatest threat to all life in the galaxy.
Guinan’s people probably had weapons that could hurt/destroy the Q Continuum, hence the Cold War, but didn’t have defensive capabilities against overwhelming floods of Borg drones or the right platforms to strike the Borg in regular 3D space. Why couldn’t a Q take out the weapons? Plot armor.
Fun fact: John de lancie voice a character in My Little Piny: Friendship is magic that’s basically the same as Q. That character is Discord.
Q with less powers; almost like to think its "teenage" Q
It would be cool if they revealed that El-Aurian’s evolved to a higher plane of existence in the far future and became the Q.
The way Janeway craned her neck to watch them "mate" was hilarious!
How can Q junior be the first new Q in generations, if Amanda is literally right there?
Q junior is born of 2 Q as Q. Amanda was born from 2 Humans that use to be Q but kept some of their powers.
@@jacara1981 Ahh, fair point.
My headcanon is that Guinan knew quite a bit more about timelines, and just acted ignorant to keep linear humans from treating her like a fortune teller
My theory on the Borg-Elorian-Q dynamic is that the ELorians were close enough to the Q's power that they could pose a threat, but still mortal enough the borg could get them, the Q realized this and pushed the borg into them causing the borg to gain some ability to hurt the Q this the reason for the dynamic (you do not provoke the borg) and the cold war.
Nothing about Q made sense in Season 2 of Picard. I mean he cannot snap Picards ancestor away or Guinan as if he has lost quite a bit power. Then at the end he just snapped everyone back to where they started in time and brought back Romulan Legolas. I do not believe they are afraid of the Borg nor are they afraid of Guinan.
The Q introduced the borg to the federation to start a proxy war. Plus since the continuum has stagnated so the federation's ability to innovate make them a fairly good choice to throw at the borg.
The Q didn't throw Janeway at the Borg and she ended up crippling them. Q's advice about the borg was simply in Humanity's interests, the borg aren't of any interest to the Q.
@digitalcurrents I disagree, "don't provoke the borg" is a rule for a reason. He made the federation aware of them so they would be able to fight them on the continuum's behalf. Janeway was still working on a base knowledge the federation had and 7, Janeway's window into the collective, would never have been assimilated if humans had never encountered then borg.
@@poopsled I still think the saying "don't provoke the borg' is like a parent telling a child not to stir up the ant colony in the back garden. Q did plenty of things with Picard, Janeway, and Sisco that aren't borg related.
“You hit me!”
“Picard never hit me..!”
😂😂😂
There has been speculation for some time about the Q being responsible for creating the Borg, given the fact that it was John De Lancie's Q who first introduced the Borg in NG and his continued involvement in Borg story lines, i do believe there may indeed be reasons for that. The Borg but do the Borg know if the Q, i doubt the Q have ever been assimilated. So the curious question is what is the connection between the two species?
Dark horse: Olivia d'Abo reprises her role as Amanda Rogers, and pesters Seven and the crew of the G. She would be innately fascinated by humans, after all.
No disrespect to John de Lancie, but we need new stories.
So can Amanda Rogers be described as Q-man...?
Yay more Star Trek stuff 😊
On a channel about Star Trek? Impossible!
Gene Roddenberry chose the letter "Q" in honor of his friend Janet Quarton, but what is the reason he is called Q in the series?
If it was a cold war, that suggests the Ellorians threatened the Continuum indirectly.
You know, I always imagined the Q not as individuals but rather as a, well, continuum. Eveything that looks like at Q is a section of that continuum. And they all get to be everything and everyone. So who knows? I like not really understanding. It's full of wonder. :)
At 4:20 Q JR stated to be 1st new Q concieved in a millenia. At 5:37 Amanda Rogers was concieved by another continueum duo twentysome years prior. How long is a milennia?
First born in continuum, Amanda was born outside it
This might be a stupid question, but didn’t the Borg Queen die in Star Trek First Contact? It was the same Borg Queen as the one we saw in Picard season 3.
Well either because of poor writing or because of in universe shenanigans. The Borg Queen has multiple bodies and multiple ways of getting around. The Borg Queen is actually just a program that inhabits one of the drones for a body. From there she could either teleport over to one of the other ships or she can just pick another drown and have that body as well but so the Borg Queen can be in multiple places at once. The one that died in first Contact was merely just an avatar the queen. The one that we see at the end of Picard however is more likely the one that probably died in the unit complex or nearly died in the unit complex when Janeway destroyed them with a neurolytic pathogen.
Seems only appropriate that an all powerful Ellie, describes the omnipotent Q 🖖🎩
I'm in IT. I've been a Systems Administrator. I've had accounts that were members of the Enterprise Administrators group (for those of you that don't know what that means, it means that there was literally nothing to which I didn't have permissions. That even included the CEOs laptop). I was effectively omniscient. It wasn't that I knew everything at any moment in time, but that I had the ability to know anything at any moment in time.
That's the Q.
Really nice video - grabbed my attention until the end
I don't think the final takeaway from the execution of Amanda's parents was that they were killed *because* they used their powers, but rather that the Continuum sent a tornado to kill the humans they has become, and the couple used their powers to save their daughter. The fact that they used their powers just became a convenient excuse after the fact.
Also given how the Q habitually stripped their own of their powers when they rebelled, I don't see why they couldn't just have done the same with Amanda's parents. Maybe they were too powerful, or the Q feared it would foment unrest among their ranks if they exiled dissidents to die. Or the plan to create Amanda was their goal from the get-go.
Purpose and meaning are created and the best quality life can be obtained by bringing other compatible humans, domesticated animals, and other life around you and loving them and being loved. This would also work for the Q.
My Theory: Q from Picard Season 2 is dead. Q from Picard Season 3 is Wesley using advanced hologram technology to interact with his brother to relate with him while saving the Galaxy.
I’m not one to complain about spoilers but damn that Picard spoiler got me
Q was pretty cool, gotta say though as a TOS dude I prefer Trelaine!
Given the success of Picard S3 and the flop that S1 and S2 was, it might be best to see S2 as "just a Q game" and take nothing that happened there serious. It would explain a lot and give some peace of mind. And Q just stays the godlike being.
That way we can look happily forward to a great spinoff with the next next generation.
Possible speculation. The El-Aurians were able to create weapons akin to those used in the Q civil war. Pherhaps this is where those weapons came from. This makes sense with the cold war reference. The Q have the raw powers, but the El-Aurains having a means of killing them. It's the classic standoff situation.
Q introduced Picard's crew to the borg to teach them about a new threat and have them learn some humility. When a lesson in humility comes from Q, that says something!
I agree with those saying Q Jr being told not to provoke the borg is because of what they can do to other soecies, rather tgan the Collective themselves.
Q likes to play the part of trickester, but there's always more to it tgan tgat.
"It is the wise man who plays the fool"