Star Trek: 10 Secrets Of The Q Continuum

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  • @TheForeverRanger
    @TheForeverRanger Рік тому +46

    Q Jr was played by John's real son, Keegan. For those wondering, he still had to audition for the role. Tha was his last acting credit.

  • @startrekker6913
    @startrekker6913 Рік тому +141

    Q is the best recurring character in all of Star Trek and he is simply amazing and if they do a Jack Crusher spin off I REALLY hope he is prominent

    • @elphiegleason3899
      @elphiegleason3899 Рік тому +1

      Hell yeah

    • @SmegulonPrime
      @SmegulonPrime Рік тому +1

      I'd like to see some background on the Q and if Wesley and the travellers are linked could be a good premise for a show

    • @DarthDesolous
      @DarthDesolous Рік тому +3

      I agree. I also wonder how Captain Kirk and Captain Spock would react to “Q”. I think personally, Captain Spock would benefit greatly with the intervention of “Q”. By putting the Valcons on trial and helping Spock explore his humanity side, and how to mix both of them together. Or have Captain Kirk be the first person “Q” put on trial. The stories we could tell would be fantastic. Remember TOS only got 2 1/2 seasons worth of shows out before they went to the movies. There’s probably a lot more to be flushed out about the crew of the Enterprise-1701 on their second five-year mission under Kirk.

    • @dglenn29301
      @dglenn29301 Рік тому +5

      I think Q Jr. Will be Jack Crusher's Q.

    • @elphiegleason3899
      @elphiegleason3899 Рік тому

      @@dglenn29301 I didn’t even know there was a Q Junior

  • @disideratum
    @disideratum Рік тому +25

    John De Lancie is one of the most handsome people and just gets better with age. In addition to that his wit and intelligence make him an iconic actor.

  • @michaelpapp5518
    @michaelpapp5518 Рік тому +176

    My feelings are the Q from PIC2 was from a far, far future from now. As he was dying, Q went back in time for one last visit with his favorite human. The Q we see in PIC3 is a more “current” Q.

    • @charndeepbhangoo7556
      @charndeepbhangoo7556 Рік тому +35

      Or the showrunner of Picard season 3 needed to "undo" Kurtzman's mess of seasons 1&2.

    • @michaelpapp5518
      @michaelpapp5518 Рік тому +24

      @@charndeepbhangoo7556 no, they very clearly specified how the events of PIC2 were not undone. Stop thinking so linearly.

    • @Lordoftheapes79
      @Lordoftheapes79 Рік тому +33

      I mean, I've seen enough Doctor Who, that I got it immediately. When you're dealing with time travel, things don't always happen in the right order.

    • @michaelpapp5518
      @michaelpapp5518 Рік тому +5

      @@Lordoftheapes79 exactly.

    • @digitalcurrents
      @digitalcurrents Рік тому +5

      @@Lordoftheapes79 Then you've completely missed the details. The Q from season 2 started off young and became old after he saw Picard had gotten old. The Q from Picard season 3 is still old so it's after season 2.

  • @shdon
    @shdon Рік тому +83

    Hmm... here's a thought... The Q and the El-Aurians definitely have some history and there must have been a reason Q was wary of Guinan. The El-Aurian civilisation was all but destroyed by a conflict with the Borg. It would stand to reason that at least one (likely more) of the El-Aurians was assimilated by the Borg, and thus the collective would gain their knowledge of the Q as well, including potentially a way to harm the Q. That would make Q's warning to his son never to provoke the Borg a wise one. His introduction of the Enterprise crew to the Borg was not a direct provocation of the Borg, but could have been self-serving as a way to make sure the Borg would be preoccupied with the Federation and maybe even have the Federation eliminate the Borg threat to the Continuum. Q obviously has a soft spot for humanity (and Picard in particular) and this would have allowed him to both help out Picard, and ensure the safety of the Continuum.

    • @james-ud9lp
      @james-ud9lp Рік тому +12

      TLDR: the Borg assimilate the El auriens.. learn of the Q and how to fight them. Q decides to use Humanity as a meat Shield rather than fight them head-on.

    • @pwpresents5660
      @pwpresents5660 Рік тому +7

      I’ve been entertaining the same thought since watching this episode.
      Really speaks to the threat level of the Borg if even the Q continuum start becoming worried about them.
      We already know, or at least suspect, Q's particular obsession with humanity might be due to their future potential, so who's to say they haven’t seen how powerful the borg will become. Powerful enough that even they can’t just wipe them out of all existence.

    • @jacobkobald1753
      @jacobkobald1753 Рік тому +1

      @@pwpresents5660here’s the thing though if the borg threaten the Q then they would’ve attained the same abilities as the Q therefore negating Q time travel so what’s up with that? At least with the temporal time war we saw the effects of changes in the past in the future… time travel is messed and OP

    • @ohkaygoplay
      @ohkaygoplay Рік тому +2

      From what I've heard, it was apparently an idea that the writers thought twice about and abandoned. They didn't actually have an explanation for that. I guess leaving that plot line open for the fans to wonder about for the rest of their lives was their answer.

    • @JoshuaFlinn-r5s
      @JoshuaFlinn-r5s Рік тому +3

      If the El Aurians could summon a Q at will with that drinking ceremony and the Borg knew this after assimilating Aurians, the Borg could use this to summon the Q at will. So Q didn’t want to press the issue with the Borg or remind the Borg that the Continuum was out there. Out of sight, out of mind basically.

  • @se7enofnein
    @se7enofnein Рік тому +13

    I loved that Q Jr was played by DeLancie’s irl son. He looks just like his dad and thus carried himself in a similar manner.

  • @hancocki
    @hancocki Рік тому +28

    The tech from Q and the Grey goes a long way to explain Trelanes machines in TOS

    • @twocvbloke
      @twocvbloke Рік тому +6

      Well, many a trekkie see Trelane as a prototype of Q, so it's not beyond the realm that he was indeed a Q, there's even a book written about such a revelation, with Q needing Picard to "look after" Trelane as he stated "He's driving me nuts!"... :P

    • @paulbarnett227
      @paulbarnett227 Рік тому +4

      Yes Trellayne was kind of ret-conned into being a Q

    • @jgvillan01
      @jgvillan01 Рік тому +5

      @@twocvbloke Remember, Trelane was a child, sort of a Q-brat like Q2. His parents actually apologized to Kirk for his troubles.

    • @douglasdavis8395
      @douglasdavis8395 Рік тому +1

      "Hip-hip hoorah. Tally ho!"

    • @vashtanerada9233
      @vashtanerada9233 Рік тому

      @@twocvbloke Isn't it a "Q-Square" book you're talking about?

  • @whoiamiamnot2104
    @whoiamiamnot2104 Рік тому +12

    I hope the Q are never fully explained. Sometimes the unknown is the best aspect of a character.

  • @woogha
    @woogha Рік тому +8

    Look at Quinn's take on the continuum. Road. Scarecrow. Game. Perfect representation of Travellers, Watchers and Tricksters. The Dog is the Q who monitor and punish other Q.

  • @JesseKnight2000
    @JesseKnight2000 Рік тому +16

    "I didn't have his courage or his convictions.
    He called me irrepressible.
    This was a man who was truly irrepressible.
    I only hope I make a worthy student."
    - Q, 2372 ("Death Wish")
    the Quinn was seeking Euthanasia, very emotional episode

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 Рік тому +3

      Tremendously emotional. One of my favorites.

  • @briang9581
    @briang9581 Рік тому +15

    My head canon: The Q and the El-Aurians once had a common ancestor. Let's call them the Qel. The Qel were preparing to take the next leap in their evolution. There was much dispute over just what direction this evolution should take. Some wanted to master time & space itself like gods. Others were more content to listen and observe the vastness of the cosmos up close. As the ages rolled on these two powerful races grew even farther apart and eventually forgot their shared lineage. Through war and cold war, fact was replaced with fable. While concessions were made, each side was raised on warnings to avoid the other or risk the most dire of consequences.
    Yes, it's quite similar to Vulcans & Romulans, Romulans & Reman and Andorians & Aenar. As they say, steal from the best.

    • @kurtsnyder4752
      @kurtsnyder4752 Рік тому +4

      Or those Ancients and the Ascended in Stargate SG1.

  • @jaykay845
    @jaykay845 Рік тому +11

    Maury Ginsberg was not a "famous musician". He was a spotlight operator at Woodstock who met his future wife and died as a dentist.

    • @Donnagata1409
      @Donnagata1409 Рік тому +4

      The groovy chick in the red beads!!!

  • @Preirin
    @Preirin Рік тому +11

    I always assumed "Don't provoke the Borg" was a warning to Q Jr that he wasn't ready to face them so freely. It's one thing for an experienced Q to place a starship against a Borg cube (if you remember, Q wasn't physically present for most of that) but Q Jr sat in the captain's chair to watch the event unfold firsthand because of his own hubris.
    Imagine if he was so enraptured with watching what was happening that he didn't notice a Borg come up behind him and assimilate him. One would think he could just whisk the nanites away but we've seen how quickly they can take control of a mind once assimilated. Imagine the Borg with the abilities of a Q.....

    • @NeoTechni
      @NeoTechni Рік тому +1

      Or the Continuum's job is to enforce order in the universe, and provoking the Borg causes chaos which gets Q in trouble from the Continuum
      Also possible that the last time he provoked the Borg he got many humans killed, and he likes humans now and doesn't want that to happen

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder Рік тому

      The Borg couldn't even assimilate Species 8472 which was still organic. No way they can assimilate non-corporeal superbeings like the Q.
      My interpretation is that the Q have, by and large, a non-interference guideline that Q sometimes likes to skirt around. But enraging the Borg and getting them to destroy more life than they were supposed to is dangerous if you aren't allowed to interfere to correct your mistake. It may even hint at the entire universe being a test tube for the Q, and upsetting the balance by provoking the Borg would endanger the experiment.

  • @pookhahare
    @pookhahare Рік тому +11

    Way to look at it Q in season 2 set up Picard to be ready for the events of season 3 especially Jack. Because human stuck mostly in linear time as he pointed out q isn't. The Q at end season 2 picard could already seen the events of season 3 so he prepared Picard with the strength to love Jack and help save him.

  • @andrewh5568
    @andrewh5568 Рік тому +8

    I recently had an idea that the Q species are basically the inevitable final evolution of life in the galaxy in the far far future and that Q(the character) has a preference for humanity as the final species, so he and the other Q are always tinkering with us and other species throught spacetime to basically push our culture and genetics along specific pathways to ensure that personality traits and profiles become dominant in their own present depending on whatever it is they want for themselves, so Q stages the Encounter at Farpoint because he needs humanity to pivot towards some minor feature he likes and guarantee our ascendance, other Q do the same to other species across the galaxy as the Q are inevitable(any species can potentially become the Q so their origin is always in flux even for themselves), it explains why they dislike the Borg because their presence and victory would seriously risk the Q ever being created and the El Aurians might threaten them because they can see pathways in reality that threaten the Q, Guinan is always advising Picard along certain ethical paths gently and carefully while Q is more aggressive and overt about it, similar tactics for pushing humanity towards a long distant future.
    It all kind of fits together, Q basically want us to do things that push us to being the best versions of ourselves to ensure that if we ascend they(the Q continuum) reap the benefits and if their needs or whims change then they'll help another species along and get it from them instead.

  • @while.coyote
    @while.coyote Рік тому +5

    the el aurians were able to threaten the continuum just by living long and being snarky. The Q hated showing up at some historical event and finding an al aurian there who remembered them them from the past and starts roasting them over something that happened 300 years ago.

  • @ericgjovaag7958
    @ericgjovaag7958 Рік тому +5

    Aw, no mention of Trelane from "The Squire of Gothos"? There have been several extended universe stories that have implied he's part of the continuum.

  • @nathanramstorf1033
    @nathanramstorf1033 Рік тому +4

    No mention I saw of the awesomeness of the Continuum and the supernovae phenomenon that brought Voyager into the mix with their war.

  • @printerman99
    @printerman99 Рік тому +6

    you mention that Q are the most powerful. Don't forget the Dowd/Doud from the STNG episode. I don't recall the title, but he and his "wife" that he created, were the only 2 on that planet

  • @aoconnor2933
    @aoconnor2933 Рік тому +5

    I think Qs concerns with provoking the Borg was not out of fear, but the fact they could easily upset the balance of the entire galaxy.

    • @FrancisGo.
      @FrancisGo. Рік тому

      "Don't stick your junk in a beehive. This tree is full of innocent squirrel babies. They'll get stung."

  • @makgeoff
    @makgeoff Рік тому +3

    Excellently made video. My theory of Q is they are not really allowed to drastically affect course of natural progression. They can play with it but cannot totally change it. De Lancie Q seems to have screwed Picard's timeline too much and had to go fix it. And, he did it when Picard saw there's more to life and he showed deep love in self sacrifice & even for Q.

  • @just_kos99
    @just_kos99 Рік тому +33

    Nothing about the popular fan theory that the baby q is actually Trelane, from TOS "The Squire of Gothos"? I'm convinced that's who Trelane was; we even hear his parents come to retrieve him at the end of the episode, and they set everything right again.

    • @krisgonynor689
      @krisgonynor689 Рік тому +8

      There is a Star Trek Novel that explains that Trelane and all of the "super" beings that the TOS and TNG Enterprise ran into was a Q. A child Q, actually, as JD's Q had to finally step in and stop him. It seemed he liked "playing" with ships named, "Enterprise". Considering all the one-off super beings both series ran into, it makes sense. "Q-Squared" may be the book, it's as close as I could find using google search.

    • @giantclam1822
      @giantclam1822 Рік тому +1

      Q even sounds like Trelaine in Encounter at Far Point.

    • @EmeraldEyesEsoteric
      @EmeraldEyesEsoteric Рік тому

      The biggest secret is that the entity was supposed to represent the return of the God Being Jesus to judge mankind. Also the Borg Cube is based on the New Jerusalem and the Saturn Brotherhood.

    • @Sam1787
      @Sam1787 Рік тому

      @@krisgonynor689 it is.

  • @pauldavis9387
    @pauldavis9387 Рік тому +3

    In one of the books, Q described the origin of the Q. There was the Big Bang. Two species were the first. The Q and the M. One looked at the other and asked who are you? The other said, “Your mother.” Thats when the fight started and it’s been going on ever since.

  • @ZeoViolet
    @ZeoViolet Рік тому +17

    "Don't provoke the Borg". Should have been followed up by "The cleanup after messing with them is more unpleasant than with other species." I wouldn't think the Q would want the Borg spreading too far and assimilating everything and everyone that is not advanced enough to contain it. Should they do that, in some timeline where this happens, the Q might find that "resetting" and undoing all that because "The Borg are boring" is a tiresome chore nobody wants to deal with. The Borg being everywhere would invite universal stagnation that would cause the pre-Quinn era look like a holiday trip in comparison.

    • @MysteicVoltronus
      @MysteicVoltronus Рік тому +2

      My thoughts as well that the Q find them boring. Provoking them could accelerate them making the whole galaxy boring.

  • @robertbeste
    @robertbeste Рік тому +4

    A few thoughts:
    1. The Q who appeared to Jack Crusher was the "old appearing Q". This at least implies this is a version of Q AFTER the events of Picard season 3. It seems likely that the Q exist in all points in time and they do not experience "death" the same way we do - as a traditional point in spacetime.
    2. It is possible that the Q evolved from the El-arians. This would explain why they could be decimated by the Borg... but why the Q would not want to harm them as doing so might adversely affect their own past. It would explain how the two peoples could have a cold war. The El-aurians could threaten the Q with harm to themselves. It also might explain why Q knows Gainan. Perhaps she is a past, un-evolved version of a Q he knows... and loaths.
    3. Q Jr. is likely Trelaine. They are both adolescent Qs who like toying with humans. It fits.
    4. Many people read "Don't provoke the Borg" as a sign the Q are afraid of them. Two possibilities exist in my mind. 1. This is further evidence the Q evolved from El-aurians. Provoking the Borg might cause them to go after the El-aurians more forcefully - thus hurting the Q in their present. 2. They aren't afraid of the Borg at all. The Q are just annoyed at having to clean up Q Jr.'s messes so often. IMO the latter seems more likely.

  • @GaurdianOfSpace
    @GaurdianOfSpace Рік тому +5

    Picard Season 2: *kills Q*
    Picard Season 3: 'i'm just gonna ignore that'
    good move by Terry lol

  • @ZealoustheEnder
    @ZealoustheEnder Рік тому +3

    The romulan supernova was John delancey's Q dying 😆

  • @jacara1981
    @jacara1981 Рік тому +33

    The Q from season 2 of Picard seems to be from the very distant future, maybe from the end of the Universe, that would explain the loss of power and him dying. Basically his life is tied to the Universe and when it dies so do they.
    Beings outside of Time or can be outside of time seem to be more on level with the Q, and are a threat to them. Most likely the Prophets are the same, and might be why Q was surprised when Sisko hit him and knocked him down. We even see Q check for blood on his lip. Sisko likely actually hurt Q because hes half Prophet, he just didn't know about that yet. The Q never showed up at DS9 after that, maybe they were warned to stay away by the Prophets.

    • @charndeepbhangoo7556
      @charndeepbhangoo7556 Рік тому +6

      Then how was Quinn able to transport Voyager before the start of the universe, that is, just before the Big Bang? As for the Prophets, why are they confined to one wormhole in the sector of one galaxy? Prophets seem pretty weak.

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 Рік тому +2

      @Charndeep Bhangoo it wasn't before the beginning of the Universe, it was right before the Big Bang. The Universe came into being before the Big Bang in the form of a singularity

    • @charndeepbhangoo7556
      @charndeepbhangoo7556 Рік тому

      @@jacara1981 The Big Bag was the start of the Universe🤦‍♂...at least according to NASA, National Geographic, the American Museum of Natural History,...

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 Рік тому +3

      @@charndeepbhangoo7556 Not exactly, now to be clear we are talking about Planck time units. The singularity came first, then something happened and it expanded. The expansion part is the Big Bang. However the Universe started with the singularity.

    • @charndeepbhangoo7556
      @charndeepbhangoo7556 Рік тому

      @@jacara1981 What is your proof?

  • @karstenvoigt7280
    @karstenvoigt7280 Рік тому +20

    The El Aurians are described as "listeners". One of their talents is to make people tell them more than they intended to. Perhaps this even worked on members of the continuum. So a Q might have revealed a little too much - about how to protect a species from just being erased and even how to post a thread on the continuum.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta Рік тому +4

      I hate it when threads randomly appear in the continuum...

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 Рік тому +3

      Hmmm. El Aurians are "Listeners", while the Borg speak: "Locutus" & "Vox"...

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 Рік тому

      IIRC, Q called Guinan "multicellular" as an insult a couple times, and 1 Q punishment is to become an amoeba. Maybe the Q are ascended amoebas or other single celled organism? *Cue flashback to TOS "Immunity Syndrome" Giant Space Amoeba...
      *He also told Picard they cheated to get there(to their level)

  • @sisterblissuk9253
    @sisterblissuk9253 Рік тому +5

    We need a season or 2 of just Q and the Continuum

  • @kevindobson3701
    @kevindobson3701 Рік тому +3

    Q is my favorite character in Star trek of all time

  • @Freakingbean
    @Freakingbean Рік тому +3

    All Q exist from the beginning to the end of this universe, and probably many others.
    They kinda exist in all time at once.
    Picard was in the final years of his life, so the part of Q that finally ended his existence decided to share those moments with picard in his old age. Q hasn't gone anywhere.

  • @belabahn
    @belabahn Рік тому +4

    For the last scene it would have been better to forget about Q visiting Jack, and show what happened to Laris. (Is she still wailing for JLP on Chaltok IV?)

  • @54m0h7
    @54m0h7 Рік тому +8

    I think I figured out how the Q work. Long ago they were a mortal but highly advanced species. They then invented 'the continuum', a multi-dimensional matrix that they could tap into which allowed them to change probabilities. Whenever Q would snap his fingers he would change the probability of an event from happening. The probability of the crew of a starship disappearing and appearing in a different place, where particles happen to resemble a scene from Robin Hood isn't zero, and so Q makes the odds 100%. The El-Aurian's have a sense when the timestream is not right. Perhaps their abilities go beyond that as well. This ability allows them to see past the changes that Q makes, and maybe even correct them. The Borg, being a massive single minded entity, is potentially capable of adapting to the changes that a Q makes, and so they generally stay away from them. Q was ok sending the Enterprise to them because he wasn't directly dealing with them himself. Lastly, Q dying in Picard was Q from a vastly distant future, where perhaps something like extremely long exposure or use of 'the continuum' eventually kills them.

    • @Tao_Tology
      @Tao_Tology Рік тому

      It was not established that Q really died or that the 'point I cannot see beyond' was his approaching death.

    • @TokyoXtreme
      @TokyoXtreme Рік тому

      I think Guinan knows because part of her remains within the nexus.

    • @shodanki3736
      @shodanki3736 Рік тому

      I think the main problem for the Q with the Borg is as long as they stay apart everything is okay but imagine a Q would be assimilated?
      Even if the Collective is not able to use the power but the knowledge the Q Posses
      would create a type of Borg you would not want to have.

  • @jeffreyjeffrey007
    @jeffreyjeffrey007 Рік тому +3

    The "don't provoke the Borg." line I always took as Q shohwing character growth and learning a lesson. He did get more rambunctious and less menacing as Trek went on in general. Kind of like the Joker being more of a prankster from 60 to 70's Batman comics.

  • @mathiaswolfstone9369
    @mathiaswolfstone9369 Рік тому +2

    The fact that El-Aurians are assimilated by Borg is probably the reason why the continuum tries to avoid provoking the Borg. The collective probably knows how to deal with Qs like how the El-Aurians did.

  • @FilthyCasualYT
    @FilthyCasualYT Рік тому +3

    Q sent humanity, and specifically Picard, right to the Borg. This is because the Borg were a future threat. They're a multiversal hivemind driven towards perfection. The Q knew that putting the Enterprise in the path of that cube would eventually lead to the complete eradication of the current Borg, and replace them with a less aggressive version.

  • @WalterOtterly
    @WalterOtterly Рік тому +2

    The Borg assimilated the El-Aurian's who had a special relationship with the Q, so that's probably why the Q avoided the Borg.

  • @stefanpolomsky1306
    @stefanpolomsky1306 Рік тому +3

    #9: Or John DeLancie's Q made contact "until ~2510" BEFORE he "died". As he stated in the Picard finale (more or less): "primitive, human 3-dimensional, linear thinking"

  • @theostickley6492
    @theostickley6492 Рік тому +3

    Always makes me wonder what would happen if a Q came up against a Douwd. The being that wiped out all the Husnock everywhere in a fit of rage.

  • @PrinceAnakin
    @PrinceAnakin Рік тому +4

    Would love to see a return Star Trek Theme Park.

  • @PaulGaither
    @PaulGaither Рік тому +3

    The Q live outside of time. John De Lancie's Q could have visited the federation after his "death" in Picard Season 3. He could visit the heat death of the universe and the big bang. That is how I understood it.

  • @Digitallycloned
    @Digitallycloned Рік тому +2

    My head canon has always been that Q helped the Borg against the El-Aureans. But I’ve always found it interesting that Starfleet knew of “El-Aurean refugees” during the time of 1701-B’s maiden voyage but apparently didn’t know why they were refugees or why they were running away. Q possibly shielded The Federation from the Borg until the events in “Q Who” and because at the end of TNG season one episode “The Neutral Zone,” The Borg were already at the Federation’s “doorstep” and he knew he needed to introduce them to give Tge Federation a chance.

  • @neil999ish
    @neil999ish Рік тому +2

    Would like to see an episode of star trek that explains the relationship between Guinan's people and the Q'tinium.

  • @RyogaHabiki
    @RyogaHabiki Рік тому +1

    9:46 - It wasn't Q who introduced the Federation to the Borg. That happened in TNG Season 1 "The Neutral Zone", in 'Q Who' he introduced the Enterprise-D to the Borg and that's when they realized it was the Borg that took out their bases in "The Neutral Zone". His interference is what allowed the Federation to put the puzzle pieces together.

  • @GabePuratekuta
    @GabePuratekuta Рік тому +4

    Maybe the reason Q's summoning was delayed was because he was talking to Jack?

  • @ThangPlants
    @ThangPlants Рік тому +2

    I wonder if Q jr would be reintroduce and take up his father's mantel in ST: Legacy

  • @andreanatsuminadeau5608
    @andreanatsuminadeau5608 Рік тому +1

    About the "don't provoke the Borg" line, yes Q did introduce the crew of the Entreprise D to the Borg...but was stripped of his power the next time we saw him so we have to wonder if it was not a major reason for the continuum to punish him.
    The Q fear the El-Aurians, the Borg assimilate some El-Aurians so we can see why the continuum would see provoking the Borg as a big no-no.

  • @piecaruso97
    @piecaruso97 Рік тому +2

    But you forgot that the Q are also time travelers, so they can just have chosen to not interfear with the federation or star fleet after the end of the 25th century, thay can also live non linearly, so basically having cronology for them might not even make any sense (even though in voyager is kind of implied that they experience time linearly, and that the continuum has it's own timeline with a start).

  • @QBCPerdition
    @QBCPerdition Рік тому +2

    Headcannon: Q showed the Borg to the Ent-D because he knew the Federation could ultimately destroy them, because the Q were legitimately scared of the Borg. This also explains why the El Aurians would be able to hurt the Q but be devastated by the Borg.
    Despite how they seemed, the Borg were possibly the greatest threat to all life in the galaxy.

  • @Tranzzform
    @Tranzzform Рік тому +2

    There are several Q themed Books from the series. High recommendation that you read them if you want to learn more. ALSO maybe the El'orians are the precursor or actually the Next step that the Q are heading into.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Рік тому +5

    "The vaunted Q Continuum--self-anointed of the universe." - Kathryn Janeway, 2372

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Рік тому +6

    No.11; They can't take a punch, as Sisko proved... :P

  • @---Tre---
    @---Tre--- Рік тому +8

    Perhaps Q introduced Picard to The Borg because he knew it would ultimately lead to their downfall, and in turn, remove an enemy of The Q. Somewhat similar to how Doctor Strange saw many different outcomes but only found one path to victory. In Q's case, that path was through Picard.

    • @harddeal6097
      @harddeal6097 Рік тому

      Then that would be foolish. The Q could just snap his fingers and end the Borg.

    • @---Tre---
      @---Tre--- Рік тому

      Foolish Mortals!

  • @luker093
    @luker093 Рік тому +4

    Being that Q was in the end credit scene of Picard season 3, I’ll just pretend season 2 never happened

  • @yvindblff5628
    @yvindblff5628 Рік тому +2

    That's the trouble with time travelers. The last time you see them could very easily be the first time they see you, or the other way around.
    Like with Daniels, on Archer's Enterprise. His death, in the episode of his character's first appearance, was the last time Daniels visited the Enterprise, not the first.

    • @andream9470
      @andream9470 Рік тому

      The Daniels storyline is why I just kind of shrugged at Q's death because between that and Q's previous shenanigans it's obvious that unless you burn the body and spread the ashes, they may well come back to life.

  • @jasonsumma1530
    @jasonsumma1530 Рік тому +3

    Q didn't bother to undo what Admiral Janeway did at the very end of Voyager. We got to see the later evidence of what that little virus did in the long term at the end of Picard 3. I do wonder what Q thought of this version of the Borg dying while having an alternate version being allies with the Federation.

  • @sspaay
    @sspaay 4 місяці тому

    I remeber watching John DeLancey on a soap opera in the 80's. I was thrilled to see him in this iconic part.

  • @brianheight
    @brianheight Рік тому +1

    My headcanon is that Guinan knew quite a bit more about timelines, and just acted ignorant to keep linear humans from treating her like a fortune teller

  • @card1acatak
    @card1acatak Рік тому +3

    Wait a minute, Amanda Rogers was the first new Q born not Q junior.

  • @michaeltortorice9876
    @michaeltortorice9876 Рік тому +3

    I didn't remember Suzy Plakson as a Q. But it makes sense, if you know her history with Star Trek.
    I don't remember Q Junior at all.
    Also, Hide and "Q" is not available on Paramount Plus, or at least not for me.
    To Ellie - It must be frustrating having to present all of these spoilers for a show you are currently watching. I'm very sorry; I thin k I would hate it. The sacrifices we make for our jobs... It is appreciated.

    • @elweese
      @elweese Рік тому +3

      Suzy Plakson and Q junior (who was played by Keegan De Lancie his son IRL) were both on Voyager and not The Next Generation.

    • @michaeltortorice9876
      @michaeltortorice9876 Рік тому +3

      @@elweese It's been a while and memory fades. I think I must have missed a lot of the last few seasons of Voyager. Which only means I need to rewatch.

  • @antney7745
    @antney7745 Рік тому +1

    I'd assumed that the "new era" that Quinn mentioned was the start of our Universe with The Big Bang.

  • @---Tre---
    @---Tre--- Рік тому +3

    I'm wondering if the El-Aurians are a pre-Q species. Or if the El-Aurians and Q share a common ancestor like the Vulcans and Romulans did.

  • @Gods-bad-boy
    @Gods-bad-boy 11 місяців тому

    I loved Picard the show!!! Seeing Q was very emotional for me cause my late father and I got into ST at that time.

  • @PauperJ
    @PauperJ Рік тому +2

    It's the Q-Continuum, who in collaboration with Section 31, are responsible for Worf never winning a game of poker after "The Emissary."

  • @thedobermans
    @thedobermans Рік тому +2

    Did you notice that Q never blinks?

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Рік тому +2

    It would be cool if they revealed that El-Aurian’s evolved to a higher plane of existence in the far future and became the Q.

  • @Kualinar
    @Kualinar Рік тому +1

    #11 : At one time, Q stated that the Humans, just like a few other species have previously done before, WILL eventually evolve into Qs. So, the Qs are not a monolithic specie. There must have been a time when there where not any Q yet.

  • @MrARock001
    @MrARock001 Рік тому +4

    I don't think the final takeaway from the execution of Amanda's parents was that they were killed *because* they used their powers, but rather that the Continuum sent a tornado to kill the humans they has become, and the couple used their powers to save their daughter. The fact that they used their powers just became a convenient excuse after the fact.

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder Рік тому +1

      Also given how the Q habitually stripped their own of their powers when they rebelled, I don't see why they couldn't just have done the same with Amanda's parents. Maybe they were too powerful, or the Q feared it would foment unrest among their ranks if they exiled dissidents to die. Or the plan to create Amanda was their goal from the get-go.

  • @i_am_a_redshirt
    @i_am_a_redshirt Рік тому +2

    Patrick Stewart is currently appearing from various realities in the multiverse on talk shows.

  • @cutty201
    @cutty201 Рік тому

    Really nice video - grabbed my attention until the end

  • @peterl.104
    @peterl.104 Рік тому +2

    Guinan’s people probably had weapons that could hurt/destroy the Q Continuum, hence the Cold War, but didn’t have defensive capabilities against overwhelming floods of Borg drones or the right platforms to strike the Borg in regular 3D space. Why couldn’t a Q take out the weapons? Plot armor.

  • @zachcrawford5
    @zachcrawford5 Рік тому

    "Don't Provoke the BORG!" is probably one of my favorite lines from Voyager. I think the Q see the BORG a lot like humans see fire. If contained and controlled by someone who knows what they are doing fire isn't a threat but one careless mistake and all of a sudden not only can that fire burn you but it can quickly grow beyond your (or anyone's) controle, over power you and consume everything. Funnily enough, this is almost exactly where we are with A.I. at the moment, right now it is the little flame at the end of a lighter, try not to drop it.

  • @knessing7681
    @knessing7681 Рік тому +7

    Did they actually say or show why and what Q was dying from in picard season 2. Strange that other Q's didn't stepped in, and no mention of his son and wife. the Q in the novels are more fleshed out when dealing with Q's mortality and threats to it.

    • @Mukation
      @Mukation Рік тому +2

      A side effect of the species evolution in Voyager, i imagine.

    • @tringuyen7519
      @tringuyen7519 Рік тому +2

      Considering that Q showed to talk to Jack in Picard season 3, Qs are similar to Time Lords. Time isn’t linear to them. Why would the interfere in a nonevent?

    • @knessing7681
      @knessing7681 Рік тому +2

      @@tringuyen7519 A Q dying is a pretty big event given their history on dealing with their own mortality concerning Q's ... also Q's Wife and Son, I would think it'll be a pretty big event for them, and that's why they would interfere.

    • @digitalcurrents
      @digitalcurrents Рік тому

      @@tringuyen7519 Q in season 3 is old. He's after season 2 Q which makes it linear. I hope he's not the real Q but somebody with a holographic disguise, maybe Wesley Crusher?

    • @bjorn00000
      @bjorn00000 Рік тому

      Why would they need to say anything about why he was dying?

  • @BeyondtheRailz
    @BeyondtheRailz Рік тому +3

    Yay more Star Trek stuff 😊

  • @nicolarose8026
    @nicolarose8026 Рік тому +1

    There has been speculation for some time about the Q being responsible for creating the Borg, given the fact that it was John De Lancie's Q who first introduced the Borg in NG and his continued involvement in Borg story lines, i do believe there may indeed be reasons for that. The Borg but do the Borg know if the Q, i doubt the Q have ever been assimilated. So the curious question is what is the connection between the two species?

  • @colonelquack
    @colonelquack Рік тому +3

    Dark horse: Olivia d'Abo reprises her role as Amanda Rogers, and pesters Seven and the crew of the G. She would be innately fascinated by humans, after all.
    No disrespect to John de Lancie, but we need new stories.

  • @phr3dmcc0y
    @phr3dmcc0y Рік тому +5

    I'd bet that the elaurians and the q are the same species, and that they disagreed with how to evolve.

  • @Hunteress14
    @Hunteress14 Рік тому +6

    Fun fact: John de lancie voice a character in My Little Piny: Friendship is magic that’s basically the same as Q. That character is Discord.

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 Рік тому +1

      Q with less powers; almost like to think its "teenage" Q

  • @jojomag9822
    @jojomag9822 Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know what species number the Borg gave the Q?

  • @JennianaCross
    @JennianaCross Рік тому

    The way Janeway craned her neck to watch them "mate" was hilarious!

  • @josephpatti2835
    @josephpatti2835 Рік тому +2

    At 4:20 Q JR stated to be 1st new Q concieved in a millenia. At 5:37 Amanda Rogers was concieved by another continueum duo twentysome years prior. How long is a milennia?

    • @tomaskops7119
      @tomaskops7119 Рік тому

      First born in continuum, Amanda was born outside it

  • @davidbennettracing538
    @davidbennettracing538 Рік тому +5

    “You hit me!”
    “Picard never hit me..!”
    😂😂😂

  • @WarGiver
    @WarGiver Рік тому

    My theory on the Borg-Elorian-Q dynamic is that the ELorians were close enough to the Q's power that they could pose a threat, but still mortal enough the borg could get them, the Q realized this and pushed the borg into them causing the borg to gain some ability to hurt the Q this the reason for the dynamic (you do not provoke the borg) and the cold war.

  • @shannonmcstormy5021
    @shannonmcstormy5021 Рік тому +1

    Purpose and meaning are created and the best quality life can be obtained by bringing other compatible humans, domesticated animals, and other life around you and loving them and being loved. This would also work for the Q.

  • @Malkiore1
    @Malkiore1 Рік тому +2

    Nothing about Q made sense in Season 2 of Picard. I mean he cannot snap Picards ancestor away or Guinan as if he has lost quite a bit power. Then at the end he just snapped everyone back to where they started in time and brought back Romulan Legolas. I do not believe they are afraid of the Borg nor are they afraid of Guinan.

  • @mrtrek2117
    @mrtrek2117 Рік тому

    Q was pretty cool, gotta say though as a TOS dude I prefer Trelaine!

  • @chrisgurney2467
    @chrisgurney2467 Рік тому +1

    Cosmic Rock Paper Scissors: Q - El Aurian - Borg

  • @knightnevermore
    @knightnevermore Рік тому +3

    Given the success of Picard S3 and the flop that S1 and S2 was, it might be best to see S2 as "just a Q game" and take nothing that happened there serious. It would explain a lot and give some peace of mind. And Q just stays the godlike being.
    That way we can look happily forward to a great spinoff with the next next generation.

  • @mfauz96
    @mfauz96 Рік тому

    I’m not one to complain about spoilers but damn that Picard spoiler got me

  • @MrWocnam
    @MrWocnam Місяць тому

    Here is my take on what happened with the Q, After Quinn chose to die, and then Q chose to have Jr. The continuum was at a point where it could "choose" its own evolution. In order to give meaning back to the Continuum, they overall decided to make the Q's mortal. The few hundred years they didn't come to earth (while this is an infinitesimal amount of time to the continuum) likely found meaning in one another's company when they became mortal, they likely just spent time together learning what mortality meant to them now.

  • @zelwojtek
    @zelwojtek Рік тому +2

    Seems only appropriate that an all powerful Ellie, describes the omnipotent Q 🖖🎩

  • @Brentsvideojournal
    @Brentsvideojournal Місяць тому

    Great video

  • @fuzzysteve
    @fuzzysteve Рік тому +4

    Oh, and here I was hoping the next generation wouldn't think so linearly.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 Рік тому +1

    If it was a cold war, that suggests the Ellorians threatened the Continuum indirectly.
    You know, I always imagined the Q not as individuals but rather as a, well, continuum. Eveything that looks like at Q is a section of that continuum. And they all get to be everything and everyone. So who knows? I like not really understanding. It's full of wonder. :)

  • @mikewood6528
    @mikewood6528 Рік тому +1

    This might be a stupid question, but didn’t the Borg Queen die in Star Trek First Contact? It was the same Borg Queen as the one we saw in Picard season 3.

    • @james-ud9lp
      @james-ud9lp Рік тому +2

      Well either because of poor writing or because of in universe shenanigans. The Borg Queen has multiple bodies and multiple ways of getting around. The Borg Queen is actually just a program that inhabits one of the drones for a body. From there she could either teleport over to one of the other ships or she can just pick another drown and have that body as well but so the Borg Queen can be in multiple places at once. The one that died in first Contact was merely just an avatar the queen. The one that we see at the end of Picard however is more likely the one that probably died in the unit complex or nearly died in the unit complex when Janeway destroyed them with a neurolytic pathogen.

  • @garyhollman2399
    @garyhollman2399 3 місяці тому

    Very interesting

  • @OniRyu2000
    @OniRyu2000 Рік тому +3

    How can Q junior be the first new Q in generations, if Amanda is literally right there?

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 Рік тому +4

      Q junior is born of 2 Q as Q. Amanda was born from 2 Humans that use to be Q but kept some of their powers.

    • @OniRyu2000
      @OniRyu2000 Рік тому +1

      @@jacara1981 Ahh, fair point.

  • @occamsrazor1285
    @occamsrazor1285 Рік тому

    I'm in IT. I've been a Systems Administrator. I've had accounts that were members of the Enterprise Administrators group (for those of you that don't know what that means, it means that there was literally nothing to which I didn't have permissions. That even included the CEOs laptop). I was effectively omniscient. It wasn't that I knew everything at any moment in time, but that I had the ability to know anything at any moment in time.
    That's the Q.

  • @3412Studios
    @3412Studios Рік тому

    I'm lovin' it.