Star Trek: 10 Things You Didn't Know About Romulans
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- They're Star Trek's most secretive species. This article will get you a visit from the Tal Shiar.
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I had no choice but to come to here to see what you're saying about me.
Agreed.
Jolan Tru.
@@jolantru3085A flower to brighten your table.
Indeed.
What do you care? You died in 2006.
@@RichardA.-yi5sz Incorrect. You're clinging to reality. Pfft. Humans.
"Misdirection is the key to survival. Never attack where your enemy defends, never behave as your enemy predicts and never reveal your true intentions.
If 'knowledge is power' then to be unknown is to be invincible."
- Romulan intro, BotF
I'm so glad someone else remembers BotF, I absolutely loved that game and until recently still played a version modded to run on newer systems (but unfortunately with the intro cutscenes unplayable). I had the most fun in that game as the Romulans, and in that game the cloaking is broken, because they get a free turn to fire where the enemies couldn't react. Enough ships available can even destroy a borg cube in one turn, leaving you basically invincible in space combat scenarios.
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😮@@jamesh2321
Sun Tzu would be proud.
@@jamesh2321 It was not the most polished of Star Trek games, but it was all we had and we will never talk down to it!
I'm still playing it. Romulan cloaks rock.
The most interesting race in Trek and it's a crime that we haven't had a series set on a Romulan starship yet.
There have been no series set on any starships other than Federation. The only series not set on a Federation starship was Deep Space Nine and they got one anyway. The Romulan sun went supernova and the Romulans will never be an Empire again. Their home is Ni’Var and it’s rejoined the Federation. The franchise is in danger of dying out completely and you’re looking for a Romulan series? “Resonate some understanding.”
@@RichardA.-yi5sz
What a... peculiar thing to say
Very peculiar 🤔
@@Andrew-pr9xv, “Resonate some understanding” is a quote from Demolition Man. I can’t say what I really think of the idea and the guy who thought of it, because it’ll get censored by UA-cam. No doubt your responses are similarly limited.
@@RichardA.-yi5sz
Yes... and that's a peculiar thing to say... I'm not sure what part of this concept is proving elusive to you... but I know I shouldn't expect too much from people like... well, you get the idea.
Vulcans have ridges, they just spent 100s of years learning how to suppress them...
They use dermal abrasion without painkillers to test children's ability to suppress emotions.
I thought, after seeing nemesis, that the romulans with forehead ridges had interbred with the remans (who had forehead ridges). This interbreeding could be a conquest thing (the way roman soldiers would have their way with the women of places they conquered).
@@Kaede-Sasaki Especially when you consider how far Sela went in their society, so it might actually be a thing of incorporating things into their own gene pool.
It also makes me wonder if there weren't also issues with genetic bottlenecking that the early Romulans were suffering with a population issue in the number that left Vulcan, because, well, it might have been a survival trait there
That explains how the other potato chips and crisps are different from the Ruffles.
It's pure muscle exertion. It's why Vulcans can do the eyebrow lift so well. Supreme forehead musculature control.
Balance of Terror the 1966 remake of The Enemy Below (1957) with a Star Trek theme. Still one of my favorite episodes as a kid in the 1970s because of the Space Battle
"Romulans, they're so predictably treacherous." - Weyoun
A tool of the Dominion should talk! 😂
"Romulans have no honor"
Worf
I always figured that the Remans were native to that star system (perhaps even Romulus itself) when the first Vulcan diasporates arrived. They then subjugated and relocated the Remans. A very Romulan thing to do.
I prefer that explanation honestly
YEP! MY take exactly! Original aboriginal inhabitants, easily over powered by the aggressive, ancient Vulcans.
How many Romulans does it take to change a light bulb? Two. One to change the bulb and one to shot him and take the credit.
And centuries later, leaked documents show thousands of Tal Shiar Agents spending decades to orchestrate the light bulb going out in the first place to provide lighting for a possible attack on the Federation twenty years later.
All members died of natural causes the next day.
I’ve heard that but I heard 3 a third to interrogate the light bulb and the last one shot both
I heard it was five but there are four lights, ends up all were Cardassians as the Romulans were hiding their involvement
@@karter95 Either way the Tal Shiar was watching them in secret the whole time.
2.
One to change the lightbulb, the other to blow up the ship out of shame.
Fun fact: they don't believe in Luck. Was rewatching DS9 and one of the commanders said that. I wonder if it was a star wars reference.
i had always assumed that the Remans were the native species of the system that the Romulans had conquered and subjugated when they arrived separated from Vulcan.
I thought, after seeing nemesis, that the romulans with forehead ridges had interbred with the remans (who had forehead ridges). This interbreeding could be a conquest thing (the way roman soldiers would have their way with the women of places they conquered).
My favorite part of this entire video: the image of Kivas Fajo when you mentioned "collectors." 👍🏼 😂 🖖🏼
I wonder if Patrick Stewart's intervention in removing Rumulans was a factor of why Insurrection wasn't very appealing 🤔
I love patrick stewart. But a lot of the worst ideas of picard season 1 and 2 were from him.
I'd be interesting to know more about The Klingon-Romulan Alliance.
I wish they had some sort of team up of Klingons and Romulans on a TOS episode.
Sela & Lursa & Betor comes to mind
Klingons and Romulans are usually depicted as arch-enemies to one another.
i did like the Romulan way novels' style and also the FASA TTRP game's efforts to put together a playable Romulan species and culture with what was available in the 80's (their game books were titled "the Romulan way")
man just imagine if the romans king romulus and remus in the star trek universe where romulans stranded on earth
🤯😎
My less interesting head canon for why the Romulans are called that is simply because they reminded humans of the Roman empire. The Romulans presumably call themselves and their homeworld something completely different in their own language.
Ancient astronauts/-stranded time travelers would certainly be a possibility in the Star Trek franchise.
Iirv in the books and games, romula ns call themselves "rihan" or "rihansu" @@Psyk60
Although the Romulans call themselves an Empire, we never see or hear from any Romulan emperor or empress (at least in alpha canon). The de facto leader seems to be the Preator, making the form of state more like the Roman Republic than the Empire.
Glad to get a reference to “My Enemy My Allie” one of my favorite trek books.
The forehead appliances were easier to apply and with the built in ears or ears hidden by wigs, probably enabling to cast more Roms
Much praise mentioning Monty Thrasher, an amazing creative Artist, for his work on the Romulan logo and Alphabet. He is brilliant and deserves more attention. I had the pleasure of seeing some of his Trek Concept work. There was lots more development than has ever been shown.
I remember seeing somewhere that the reason TOS had more Klingon episodes than Romulan episodes was to save on makeup costs.
There is a real life town of Romulus in upstate New York (USA) that our favorite Klingon in real life became the mayor (J. G. Hertzler). I briefly lived there.
HOW ever did he SHARE the place with hadibah like you ? ;o)
8:43 I haven’t had any coffee yet and my house is at chaotic levels of noise (nothing’s wrong, my children just scream at each other recreationally) so I had to go back and make sure he said “In the fans of minds” and that my brain wasn’t playing tricks on me 😂
I noticed that little spoonerism as well. You aren't crazy!
Regarding the ridges, my own head canon that probably doesn't line up properly is that the ridges were a genetic mutation that allowed some Vulcans to control their intense emotions but at the cost of their telepathic abilities. The ridgeless Vulcans, ruled by their emotions, saw the ridged Vulcans as abominations and tried to wipe them out and this is the Vulcan Civil War.
Some of the ridgeless Vulcans, not completely consumed by their emotions, sided with the ridged Vulcans and helped them escape Vulcan and went with them to found Romulus, which why there are both ridged and ridgeless Romulans. Generations of interbreeding eventually led to the suppression of psychic abilities among the ridgeless Romulans which allowed them to control their emotions better.
Meanwhile, back on Vulcan, the remaining Vulcans turned on each other and almost destroyed themselves but Surak developed a means to suppress emotion and guided the Vulcans towards logic.
We used to watch TOS after class in high school. We had a game - identify the episode within seven seconds. I almost always got it right. People say "You sure know a lot about Star Trek". I say, "No, no I don't, not even close. I know people who do, and I don't operate at that level." This fellow is one of *those* people. Respect.
A friend and I played a similar game on the phone. We were usually longer than 7 seconds, so good on you.
@@ourkeving The remastered TOS adds a difficulty level, opening shots can look a lot different, but it is usually the music cues for me. I love the incidental music of TOS, it's glorious.
Seeing the Romulans in Balance of Terror was such a shock that they blocked out the fact that Spocks dad Sarek looked an awful lot like the captain of the Romulan ship
“All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romulans ever done for us?” Mon’Te p’Thon.
Just had to comment about the short plebs clip when talking romans. Was surprised but tickled by it
Im gonna go lurk over there.
New Trekculture video - yay....
Seán is hosting it - "ok let me make a coffee and get comfortable"
It's about the Romulans -"wheres my phaser"
New Trekculture video! Hold on..let me warm some leftovers!
I live the name DoctorSmock!😂🍻
Congratulations! It's nice every once in a while to get one of these "X thinks you didn't know about…" headlines that actually includes things I didn't already know. You pulled it off! There's a greater than average number of things I didn't already know about Romulans.
The Romulan story arc in Star Trek Online was hands down my favorite. It even has a young follower of Spock's in "Unification" as the New Romulus leader.
According to some Klingon guy named Worf "they claim all that lays in their field of view."
LOVED My Enemy, My Ally, etc. Fantastic books.
Incredible video one and all. Big points to you for the love you gave to Diane Duane!
The books covered the forehead ridges a long time ago. Essentially noble families thst traced back to their schism still had some families wo the ridges but over time the rank and file developed them
I can't remember if it was Chabon, Fontana or Duane who wrote a story about a Romulan archetect who defected to the Federation and was surprised how few escape tunnels, secret entrances and panic rooms there were in Federation designs. It was very amusing whoever it was.
I wanna read that! Got a link or a title?
@@sweetsucculentcontentnectar I think its in one of Rhinasu stories but its very blink and you miss it.
Outstanding! Thank you and J’Olan Tru
TOS "Balance of Terror" is a re-telling of the story and movie about a submarine called "Run Silent, Run Deep"
Came in with faint hopes that you’d remember to discuss Diane Duane’s work… and you did! Good job!
ok am i losing it or is there some kind of pop song/beach boogie playing faintly in the background?
The Romulan expansion in STO was my favorite.
it's such a slog though, good story, just so bleeding long.
2:54 this is why i LOVED this guy
Thinking on the same page
Putting the ridges on romulus became a twirling mustashe villian
I echo Moore point
I really wished they would have used the Romulans in the Star Trek: Insurrection script! That INSTANTLY raises the stakes and I care more about everything on the film. Wasted Opportunity to me.
Fascinating...
Props can be come major headaches. Star Trek Where No Man Has Gone Before, Dr. Dehner is listed being 5-2: actress Sally Kellerman is/was 5'-10." Mitchell is listed as 5'-8" whereas the actor is six feet. Errors will arise and get ingored.
The pocket novels had the Romulus performing some brutal experiments on Vulcans and themselves in an attempt to regain telepathy. It’s possible the Remans were an unintended result of biogenetic experiments. (Echoing the Klingon ridge problem.)
Honestly, the duplicity side of things might be a thing where it's a more self-control thing, essentially outplaying the opponent rather than just beating them with outright violence there. I wonder if it came from their time wandering before finding Romulus/Remus, not having the population to actually lose anyone they could avoid losing, so conflicts being resolved with manipulation and backstabbing over open conflict seems like it might have developed more there.
The same population issue could also explain the forehead ridges, being something from interbreeding due to genetic diversity issues and potential defects from it...which could also be an explanation for how well Sela did since, to most Romulans, she's still Romulan despite her mother not being one, so she'd, largely, be treated the same as any other Romulan unless there were other issues that came out of it.
“Paranoia is a way of life for you isn't it? “ The Doctor
Thanks Sean! Live long and Prosper!🖖🍻
the line in PIcard about the Romulans that came from the North had ridges was an Easter Egg for the 2005 Doctor Who episode called "Rose"....Rose asked the Doctor if he was an alien why did he sound like he came from the North (as in Northern England).....and his replied "Lots of Planets have a North"
Lower Decks Romulans are sexier. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
8:42 The fans of minds indeed!
Although I would not say deception was a way of life for ancient Greeks, in the Odyssey it is clear that deception is a perfectly acceptable means of gaining an advantage. If you were really good at it (as Odysseus is), it was even considered admirable. Even Athena is blown away by Odysseus' skillful use of deception. Ironic that the Romulans emulate the Greeks more than the Romans with their signature trait.
Well, the Romans spent a lot of their own time and effort emulating the Greeks.
@@DragonTigerBoss True, but I don't think they considered deception admirable. Although I don't know as much about the Romans as I do about ancient Greece.
Never turn your back on a Romulan! 🤣🖖
Who in turn claim that you should never turn your back to a Breen... How shady to you have to be to have a ROMULAN make up a proverb warning you about dealing with them?
@@jamesh2321 Classic Romulan misdirection. 😎
i am crossing my fingers with the enterprise nx01 refit finaly shown on screen we do see the earth romulan war on screen would be perfect setting for a mini series
I'd only want that if they use the beta canon as inspiration and bring Commander Tucker back as having faked his death to work with Section 31 in infiltrating the Romulan Warp 7 project and his work behind the scenes on Romulus during the Romulan War.
Thanks. 🖖🏻
TOS was obsessed with grecco/Rome. The romulans, "bread and circus", Apollo, "plato's stepchildren", even the mirror universe had an emperor.
I've always wondered whether the Mintakans are actually some of the migrants from Vulcan who established Romulus who crashed or had to abandon ship on Mintaka, and that over time forgot their origin, or even that they were another offshoot, who deliberately formed a neo-primitivist colony and concealed their true origin from their children and grandchildren.
Sargon's people might have something to do with the Mintakans.
"But it would explain certain aspects of Vulcan prehistory."
Hmm, thought for sure this would include that their robot warriors are read only memory lancers.
I had always thought of romlulus and remus as a Planet and a Moon pair. although a very large moon.
Gotta love those Romulans 😊
I remember Caecilius. He and his family (and one of the slaves?) were written as having died during the Mt. Vesuvius eruption in AD 79, the dog watching over his master in vain. In reality, Caecilius supposedly died in a completely different natural disaster, that being an earthquake, in AD 62.
Yes, and Grumio est in culina ancilia valde pleasbaunt
Trek/Who Culture needs Sean, Marcus and Adam
These guys drew me in and we just don't see enough of them
But everyone knows Sean's the only one in TrekCulture. And he's trying to steal WhoCulture from Ellie!
Also, Sean, did you go to Cambridge? I did a study abroad stint in Oxford back in my undergrad days so if so I guess that would make us rivals, haha.
"...in the fans of minds..."???? 8:44
I am a fan of minds. 😁
Even modern winter coats suffer from the loose good. I've never found one that will stay up without tying a scarf around it.
It sad that we never to get to see more of the 32nd century Romulans. But I hope we'll see a Romulan character in the upcoming Star Trek Academy.
Also in STO, The Iconians destroyed the Hobus Star as revenge for Sela betraying them. As the Iconians were moments from destroying earth, an alliance of Romulans, Klingons, Vulcans, Ferengi, Andorians, Gorn, and Krenim used The Time ship from Voyagers Year Of Hell to travel 200,000 years to before the Iconian race was presumed destroyed. Sela tried to kill them while everyone else tried to save them and they swore revenge. It became a Causality paradox.
I appreciated the Picard solution
How often do you think about the Roman Empire?
In Balance of Terror, Scotty describes the Romulan ship as using "simple impulse". They shouldn't have been able to leave their home solar system, much less engage in warfare with warp driven ships. Even the NX-01 would have whooped them.
Apparently, the Romulans stole warp technology from scuttled Earth ships during the Romulan War. Also, the Federation forces did know the Romulans were Vulcanites from bodies recovered from space.
3:16 SEAN! You're displaying MINTAKINS while talking about ROMULAN ridges. The Mintakins were too busy worshiping The Picard to worry about ridges.
They should make a sanctioned Romulan War cartoon series... That way the original Enterprise actors can voice it
I thought, after seeing nemesis, that the romulans with forehead ridges had interbred with the remans (who had forehead ridges). This interbreeding could be a conquest thing (the way roman soldiers would have their way with the women of places they conquered).
I see my buddy phil gave up 🤣🤣
Nice Doctor Who reference!
Seing as how the romulans continue to be the most mysterious race. This is well done.
Things that I didn't realize about Romulans. They look just like Vulcans. Who knew? 😮
There is a great back story about BALANCE OF TERROR, as a Comics, written and drawn by the great John Byrne.
I'm wondering if Romulan ale is just blue wkd
My Question is: Do Romulans HAVE Vulcan Strength or not? I don't recall ever seeing mention of it, minus the JJ film, but I DO recall the Romulans being completely useless in Melee fights.
Is this a known in canon thing and I've missed it or just a "We don't talk about the JJ trek" kind of thing?
I always assumed the Remans were the result of a Romulan augment project that was later abandoned and they put them all to work in the mines
Making Romulan plotting and duplicity the core of Picard series 1 & 2 was a bad move. It’s just all so bloody tiring trying to keep track of it all. Give me a simple narrative of a protagonist encountering an almost deadly challenge, losing faith, finding themselves through help of an unlikely source and becoming stronger as a consequence.
I was only commenting on the episode of Balance of Terror.
Yes, so much wasted potential with the Romulans in TNG, loved the DD Warbird, some great parts with Tomalak, the defector and others, Their appearance in Redemption episodes, face of the enemy. I feel so much more could have been achieved
I am always upset that they never revisit the mintakans. I'm super happy they flushed out the romulans as well as they have, to be walking about it they're fascinating, but we never hear about the distant cousins they seemed like the most balanced between the three certainly more emotional than Vulcans but not as vicious or sneaky as the romulans, way more well adjusted then the remans. It's such a shame we only got one TNG episode about the mintakans. The prime directive was already broken frankly they should have said something about the mintakans being amidst the ranks of Vulcans and romulans post reunification on nvar in discovery. The mintakans deserve better than obscurity.
Do you suppose Ni'var was a place holder name that just sort of stuck because they got tired of saying, vulcan, now including vulcans and romulans, Ni'VaR.
The Supernova could destroy the galaxy by enraging the surviving Romulans.
As long as you ignore the Kelvin timeliness, everything makes sense.
Sean!
Well, the Romulans had messed up the Amargosa observatory in Generations, so they had their movie time already... :P
There was also a Romulan in ST V and ST VI and that was before Generations.
I'd always wonder why Romulans used Klingon ships.
So Star Trek online the reason the star went supernova in the hobo system was because of Sheila's interference and her own hubris. During a time travel mission back to the iconians during the iconian war arc. And that is a very good storyline I advise anyone who plays the Star Trek online go play it if you already have it it is really good. Also we do get some more interesting story lines continued or picked up in different episodes of Star Trek online. Didn't this channel call Star Trek online essentially WOWC
Great video! I was wondering if it was covered in non-canon how just two planets of Romulans could produce enough manpower to challenge the 150 member-world strong Federation? Would frequent reproduction, high birth rate and rapid colonisation of multiple worlds solve it, along with widespread enslavement of conquered worlds and high automation of technology? And would frequent reproduction be one of the attributes separating them from their Pon Farr practicing cousins?
Perhaps you could also ask how the British empire got so big, or the Spanish empire.
i thought N'Var were the initials of "NEW Vulcan And Romulus"
I hate to tell you but when it comes to Romulans..."IT"S A FAKE!"
Best war episode of star Trek
Prehaps some of the Romulus had Klingon dna in it. Prehaps when in time they battle them and kept the sons and daughters
My head canon: Romulans with forehead ridges are part Klingon.
they were vulcan that split off when they chose logic above all they didn't wanna abandon their emotions so they left
but there r worse there is a set of vulcan assasins out there as well :)