1937 Boat Motor, 60 years in a Shed. Will It Run? Pt 2 of 2
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- I picked up this 1937 sears waterwitch 2.5hp outboard motor up at a garage sale for $40. l was told it was a cleanout from an old timers shed. so lets see what a engine that is 83 years old is made of and can it be revived?
My dad was born in 1924 and lived on Lake Erie his whole life (his dad was the commodore of the buffalo yacht club) and he is an avid sailor. He is 96 now and I just showed him this engine and he laughed because he has actually used very similar if not exactly this outboard and he loved them. Thanks so much for bringing it back to life!
Cool story Skater. Tell your Dad hi from all of us hanging out over at Mustie's place.
Mustie's videos often have a strongly nostalgic tweak for many viewers. Nice reminiscence, Skater.
This is a water witch sold by sears I think in1931 ?
I spent a lot of time on Lake Erie with my Dad. No longer with us, would be 110 now. Glad you’ve still go your Dad.
@@willierants5880 Thanks for sharing a little about your Dad. Mine died almost 40 years ago nd I still find it hard to get my head around it that I'm over ten years older than he was when he died. Pump your Dad for information on his parents and his grandparents, once he's gone you will lose that source of information!
I'm 83 years old and I wish doctors could do as good a job of restoration as you do. Following your comments and your thought processes is so entertaining. Taking an 83 year old engine with an unusual design and bringing it back to full working order is some achievement. Thanks for two very entertaining and informative videos. You've made an old man very happy.
If my dad was alive today he would have a huge smile on his face because that motor is just a few years younger than him and he was an avid fisherman and I remember him talking about a motor like that he couldn't remember if it was a water witch or a witch witch but when he talked about the design of the fuel tank when I am when I seen it I knew that was the motor that he was talking about unbelievable great job Musti
that's pretty awesome
This is what channels like Mustie1 inspire. Resurfaced memories, and inspiring literally thousands of people to resurrect old "junk"
I saw an old car parked in a local village, I was chatting to the old boy in the passenger seat, he said it was his car, but his eyesight was too bad for him to drive it any more, so his son takes him out in it.
He told me the car was made in 1924, and so was he!
Troque os 2 retentores 😊
83 years old, 60 years stashed away and it still runs like that...all praise to Mustie, but what a tribute to 1930s workmanship!
It really is a work of art!!!
Most times American made with American made parts and American made labor ,pride in workmanship .
These were made in china I believe
@@michaelmartinez1345Marine ... Art Deco...Lol
show
Probably the coolest looking outboard I've ever seen.
As I said on the last video, I call it "art deco" even though that was more in the 20's but yeah, some of the coolest designs out of the US were pre WWII/40's. Specially in vehicle designs.
It IS a beauty!
I would keep running aground looking at the motor real fun
I agree
Looks like something out of an art museum. It's smoother and more powerful than i would have guessed. I was expecting more chitty chitty bang bang.
1949’s children’s book “ one morning in Maine” has this motor. Book from my childhood
The comment about the carburetor and fuel lines looking like a chart a chart on the wall in the doctor’s office....I am a former obstetrician and when I saw the assembly on the work bench, I thought the exact same thing. Uterus, Fallopian tubes and ovaries. Keep up the great work.
And he couldn't stand it; he had to blow through one of the Fallopian tubes! lol.
Mustie1's sense of humor is incredible.
I laughed pretty hard when he said it was clogged like a 70 year olds arteries
And yet still put his mouth on it
If only this engine could reproduce. It might begat a strapping lad that grows up to be a 280 HP, fuel injected, two stroke V-6!!
Mustie is a national treasure - taking all manner of old mowers, outboards, motorcycles, VW's, etc. and bringing them back to life in a folksy mechanical repair way. Great entertainment for those interested in mechanics.
Well, I'm just 8 years younger than the motor and it certainly put a huge smile on my face! Thank you for brightening another Sunday, stay safe and all the best from over here in the UK.
Your videos are in the top 5 list of all times for me.
It is like sitting in my boat house with my buddies and working on my boats and engines!
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Hey mustie, i know i've said it before, but i can't thank you enough for how much you not only inspire this youngster but also how much you make me thrive to continue to improve my knowledge on not only cars but small engines as a whole. i'm even tempted to start a youtube channel doing small engine repair and car repair like you do. A guy can really appreciate someone who takes their knowlege from years and years of work and help a new generation. Thanks so much man! keep up the content!
Do it! A lot of us will support your channel..
@@martinda7446 Well, as of now i dont really have a lot to work on, i do have a few chainsaws that need some love and i need to work on them, they've been in my shop for like 3 weeks needing love, i'll consider it! i need to buy a tripod though.
Absolutely do it. We'll be your first subscribers!
Holistic , if you make a mustie type tripod please put a hand on it as he is always asking if we can hold something for him so if you put a hand on it then at least we can help you out when you ask .
@@faithnomoreok4443 y'know, i might buy me a set of helping hands and jb weld them to the tripod and just clip whatever i need you guys to hold into them, while also keeping them in frame. that'll be top level comedy.
Another piece of history saved by Mustie! That's the coolest looking boat motor I've ever seen.
Re: the wall charts...Yeah, and their both a place you put the fuel in to bring something to life😉😉👍
That carburetor is actually what they call a "mixer." Looks like a Lunkenheimer mixer similar to those used on antique stationary engines such as a hit and miss. The plunger on the bottom allows you to give it a prime by lifting up on it. When the valve inside opens it also opens the fuel circuit. It has no throttle function but rather the engine is throttled by the spark advance setting. I suspect the amount of timing adjustment the engine has allows it to run backwards to give the boat reverse. Similar to old two stroke golf carts that just ran the starter the opposite direction for reverse and had the timing fixed at almost TDC.
good info. thanks. ive been to shows where there are hit and miss engines running. they really amuse me with their oh i guess its time to putt again ways.
Does the plunger also act as a type of reed valve?
@@andrea4809 i thought a reed valve was for low end torque, i also thought reed valves were on the valves and not the carb
To run backwards you would have to wrap the rope backwards. Is the rope pully made for that?
" and if there are no more clips you know it went horribly wrong " We have become so accustomed to successful " will it run " videos you have spoiled us Sir Thank you
Mustie videos are indeed genuine and shows success and failures 👍🏻
The true success is not if something run or not... it is him getting us to watch all of his videos!
@@Frank-Thoresen True enough no staging or fake endings for certain
So cool! I have a 1939 Johnson for years in my basement. You’ve inspired me to try to get it running. Thanks John
That little guy pushed that boat around better than I expected, nice
Real ponies
The sound, vibration and scent of gas in outboard motor are priceless stuff 🏝️⚙️. Thanks for sharing
Mustie1 - thank you once again for investing your time to make these videos and sharing your knowledge. As ever, its an education and entertainment.
You are very welcome
thanks for the laughs and enjoyment, several decades ago I picked up a vintage one, made by Champion, worked on it, got it running great, long story best friend talked me out of it, but for years, no matter how much he tried, he never could get it to crank & run, but I was able to crank it with ease, we took it out on his john boat many times, but he was so afraid of it, he always had a spare motor that he used, a 2hp Johnson, plus his trolling motor, but he tried at home to crank, never ever got it to run, but we spent many hours on lake with it running great, sadly we were not speaking to each other when he died, his mother didnt notify me, & sold the motor at a yard sale the week after he died, he has been gone around 10 years now, but I always think of the crazy Champion engine he liked looks of so much, but never got it to run without me there setting controls
My dad was a plumber and mechanic. Always amazed me as a kid when he could look at nut/bolt and know exactly which size wrench/socket he needed. Watching Mustie disassemble carb, pick up wrench he was using, then dropping it and grabbing another wrench which fit perfectly made me smile.
My dad was the same way, I do the try and retry method when selecting the proper size wrench or socket to use.
Nothing like a properly calibrated eyeball.
Looked like he just needed the next size up. That sort of thing comes with experience but It's still amazing to see how good Mustie or your dad can be at it. Some guys are born mechanics.
That's why I never liked metric, unless it's a 10mm you can't tell by looking.
Best Boxing day entertainment out there. Watching Mustie bring something older than my father back to life....and I'm a great grandfather myself now. Shèesh, that hit home.
Love that motor the carburetor has one gasket and is basically a reed valve, carburetor, fuel pump in one and the impeller to bring water in never has to be replaced.
Bob Cranberries Yep, totally useless in a world that needs you to buy products.
My dad had an old sea witch. It looked and operated very much the same. I don’t remember it having a water pump. I do remember that it was very loud. He would fish on Bayou Liberty on a home made wooden boat and when he cracked it up to come home we could here it. You bring back a lot of memories, thanks.
Mustie casts another spell and resurrects the dead Witch. She'll float too.
But does she weigh the same as a duck?
@@jimthesoundman8641 Quick mate, very quick.
I was wondering how none of the moving parts had worn out then realised it probably got used a few times a week once a year until the owner died and that is why antiques happen.
And you did the maiden voyage without oars in the boat. Now that's faith!
He had a paddle.
Just imagine if modern day outboards required manual fuel/timing adjustment. There would be many less idiots on the waterways. That motor is very cool! It’s almost on plane!! Exactly what I wanted to do Sunday morning. Thanks Mustie!!
Unfortunately, I think they'd still be out there and paying even less attention to where they are going while fiddling with the engine and posting their exploits to Instagram
On a similar note: I started to learn a bit about what pilots of aircraft in WWII had to do WHILE in a dog fight, they basically had to do the same thing due to changes in air density as they climbed and dove.....I couldn't imagine.....it must have been heaven when FI came along......
dont forget adding oil to fuel, dunno how many even knows thats a thing, except 2stroke dirtbikers
@@kiiiisu a lot of people who do their own yard maintenance do since most chainsaws etc are two stroke.
But Toronto is about to ban 2 strokes due to the "tremendous" amount of pollution they cause lol......yeah, they're the problem, NOT the 2.5 million cars parked on the highway idling for hours every day.
This little bugger has some power for being so small!! Darren way to go getting her going last episode and fulling functional this episode. Always enjoy when you tinker and get them working.
Now there is a guy with confidence. Out on a lake with an 83 year old outboard and no paddle in the boat and not sure if the boat would float. Congratulations on another suburb “let’s fix it” video. (really now, did you have any doubts) 👍👍
39:03 ;)
He started off (39:22) with a couple of paddles and a life ring (is that what it's called?), but I didn't see the paddles at the end. Maybe they got moved when he was getting out of the boat. On a bigger lake, I would have had a neighbor with a working boat on standby. Not enough power to pull a waterskier, but seemed like plenty to putter around a lake that size.
he had a paddle, look at about 39.30
Just look closely 39:03
Confidence is good, having a backup plan is better
The "dialing it in" problem is probably that extra O-ring
you installed in the mixture needle.
That material you mistook for Bakalite is most likey
wax impregnated cotton rope, or Oakum. You could remove
it, replace & re pack. The O-ring is changing the throw of the needle.
That carburetor is cast aluminum and Bronze- no rubber seals or
diaphragms. That must be a pill to start by hand, even when new.
You'd better torque down that flywheel.
That really turned out nice.
Sweet, a free boat and trailer, a 40 buck outboard and a little sweat equity and its time to fish, and it looks cool as they come. . Nice.
Some guys have ALL the luck ...
@@johanjanssens4530 - I wouldn't call it luck as much as determination, knowledge and just getting out there and doing something.
I meant being lucky finding the outboard
I think that's one of the coolest looking motors I have seen. It looks complicated at first but the design is pretty simple. Seems like it would really be reliable. But the style of the motor is absolutely incredible. Definitely a piece of art
No paddle, untested boat, and finickety engine that looks like it came from Star Trek. Boldly going!
He sat the boat looking for leaks... and he had an oar and even said he rowed out a bit before trying the engine...
Oh oh! Party over guys! Heath has arrived - quick everyone - make like you aren't having fun or he might get upset.
@@sonovoxx I don't get what you're trying to say. He had a paddle. Gonna hate on Heath because you didn't watch the video? lol
@@JT-tz5hp life ain't that serious. Did we see him paddle? Was the boat tested first? How finickety was that engine? Guess the couple of dozen or so people that liked my comment understood exactly where I was coming from without having to tear it down.
In the Summer of 75-76, I used to motor around ponds in Northern Maine with 2 1/2-3 HP Evinrude and aluminum boat(don't know the vintage motor or boat). Didn't go too far or fast, but it was a little adventures back in high school. Thank you, Skipper!
Man, the Sound to Speed Ratio on this thing is TERRIBLE.
I LOVE IT.
Yeah, and the kite surfer was going faster !!
But is _purdee_ - seriously, I am sad that they are so rare, because I would get myself a boat just so that I cold run this cutie. Alas, for serious collectors only :(
LOL so true. Its like a Fiat 500 Abarth, goes pretty quick, but sounds like its about to hit 100. That is one awesome motor for a small boat
Scarring all the fish!
I enjoy watching you work, but even more, I enjoy the fact that you are having a good time while you are tinkering!
I want to see this thing polished to mirror so badly.
Simichrome polish and a few hours with a Dremel polishing pad and it can look like a mirror.
Brad Pitt is that you
Art deco spaceship boat motor brought back to life!!!. It can`t get much better than that. Well done!.
We had a long fabric canoe, rear end was made to hold a small engine. We did build the entire house carrying materials in that canoe (no roads at the time), heavy stuff was brought during winter by SkiDoo. The small engine would have saved some sweat.
That was fun Darren. I have never seen an outboard that old. Very Cool 😎. Thank you for the the video.👍
If Buck Rogers were a boater, likely he'd have wanted a motor like that what with the rocket-looking gas tanks.
Mustie planted the seed in my mind. This outboard motor is designed to resemble female anatomy.
Wow. What a fantastic job off resurrecting a very old boat motor. You have it running rather well for its age. The design is fantastic and even if it did not run it should be fantastic wall art. Thanks for the video.
For some reason this one really feels like something was brought back to life.
I could hang out with this guy in his garage all day long. What a cool channel.
I wasn’t sure if that carburetor needed a mechanic or a gynecologist. 😆
It pushed that boat much faster than I expected!
I'm 65 yrs old. I hung with a bunch of street rod guys, antique collectors and mechanic's a good chunk of my life...I've never seen one on these. Amazing. Great job.
Your videos always make my day! These two particularly tickled memories. Check out Robert McCloskey’s lovely children’s book, one morning in Maine.
Sal and Jane get a ride from their down east island summer house to town with their dad in a row boat powered by...you guessed it-a water witch! It dies half way across and dad has to row the rest of the way and talk with the mechanic who must be Mustie’s grandpa. A new plug, some ice cream for the girls and off they go!
I just spent $250 and drove an hour to get a boat like that and I am still looking for an outboard engine. Man what a sweet deal. Good Job as always.
Back in the early 60's, my uncle had an old Evinrude that looked a lot like that one. He said it was about 2 hp. We put it on an old heavy Cyprus ribbed boat and took it out fishing. It took a while to start pushing real well but once it got going it would take us where we needed to go. We even took it out at night to run trotlines. Very simple and dependable old motor. Those were some fun times.
That was fun Mustie , I truly enjoyed those two videos as I do all of your videos ! Thank you so much !
Hey Mustie......You can use John Deere "Corn head Grease" in the lower unit of all the old non-shifting outboards. Usually these lower units are leaky and regular lower unit lube just leaks out and water leaks in. With the Cornhead Grease, it tends to stay put and do its job even with a little water intrusion. Just get a rubber tipped grease gun end piece and fill it up to the top. That's what most antique outboard enthusiasts do. Just thought you might want to know......also, most of the 1930s motors run on 16 to 1 oil mix, some even richer....these days it's TC-W3 marine oil, but back then it was regular non-detergent 4 stroke.
It's super cool... and a neat foot-note in history. Nice to see an old dog back to working.
Mustie is always a inspiration he’s the reason I started my channel
Hi Wade ...I just subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing your content a
I gave you a Sub too
@@markchatman9583 Thanks...I'm trying to get more videos made but the injuries from wreck I was in were the long lasting ones...But hopefully soon I will get some decent stuff up
She's alive again! Good job. :)
It's one of the most unusual-looking outboarders I've ever seen.
"Air/fuel ratio sensor" and spark advance = your ears and eyes. Once you get the mixer dialed in, write down your advance and mixture settings for start, cruise, low speed troll, etc. and that way you can eliminate some guesswork (and arm muscle strength-building!) Lean it out a bit when it warms up unless it starts running hot. Lovely old outboard. With Mustie, it's never "will it run" but "when will it run" of course... she runs really decent for her age. I hope I run that good when I'm that old, but probably not.
Yup, I was going to mention that too. Old motors are a lot more hands on, no high and low speed mixture. That's why I love em too. I have a 36' Evinrude Sportwin 2.5hp, lots of fun to fire that up at a crowded boat launch! Lol
I am still stranded out at sea watching your videos Mustie! That lil motor will be of great help bringing my dingy back to harbor.
Kissel manufacturing Co. made these, for the early models. Is there a space between "Water", and "Witch"? That will tell you if it was from the first three years of manufacture, approx. 1937-1940. Kissel was bought out, but the successor continued to build "WaterWitches" for quite a few years, mostly sold by Sears.
Watching you try to dial it in brought back memories of the old Craftsman two-cycle I learned to mow lawns with, with the little Power Products engine, and rope start. That little devil taught me most of what I know about two-stroke motors, whether I wanted to learn, or not. In the days before exhaust tuning, two-strokes mostly ran well at operating speed, but didn't idle worth a damn. and once you got them tuned, woe betide you if you changed the carb settings! That rope start would wear your arm out.
Incidentally, the WaterWitch is apparently pretty collectible, and may well have some value. You might want to look at the Antique Outboard Motor Club website, they can tell you more about the motor, maybe even find a buyer for it.
I was thinking the same thing. He could find some parts or maybe sell some of the ones he's rescued to collectors who would appreciate them.
My first thought was the KisselKar when I read this. Quality products.
Great video, reminded me of puttering around in boats with my dad, almost 60 years ago.
Fantastic job on the jetson floater. The sound and the speed was off but it does function well haha
Totally awesome. You brought a real piece of history back to life.
Definitely the sexiest thing that you've resurrected in a while. As usual, an excellent video. Simple and informative.
Now to find a vintage tinnie to mount it on.
Many thanks. Humble appreciation from Darwin, Australia.
I have a 14 ft aluminum canoe with a flat back . It would look good on it.
Terrific video, thanks for sharing the story of the reborn 80 year old outboard motor.
Make your own jokes: “Lower unit gear lube.” “Get it in the hole.” “Going in dry.” Such a goldmine for the juvenile mind. ;). Keep ‘em coming Mustie1.
i like the subtle nature of mustie’s humor
@@jims41
you go to the doctors office and look at them charts, dose this (the carburator) remind you of anything?
yes, yes it dose lol
that was such a cool old little machine.....love it how they made it with the nice aluminum tank, the mixture screw and gas lever combined with the ign advance....
Scotty says "That's all she's got Captain, I can't give her anymore!"
Love seeing old machince coming back to life.....
The 90 year old lunkers at the bottom of the lake are probably looking up saying, "Ahhh the good old days..."
@paul beenis So sad, but true in many cases...
@@jasonlamanna6680 lol
That's a sweet little engine. Happy that you could bring it back to life!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Goin' in dry and can't find the crack. My man Mustie.
This video made me smile a lot😉, old stuff kicks butt. 😉👍
We got to see and hear everything, but I'd have liked to smell that stale 90 wt. and funky old exhaust. Also, you might have gotten it to start with four pulls THAT time, but out in the middle of the lake it always takes a lot more pulls.
This is one of the few videos that I haven’t seen of mr musties so for me it was a normal Sunday 👍 hope your weekend is a relaxing peaceful one mr mustie 👍
When she bucks, she's lean. When she's rich she blubbers.
You saved another old machine. Good job Mustie!
That should have come with a Flash Gordon Space Helmet. Good Job.
Just what I was thinking. Cross between Flash gordon and Starship Enterprise
Perfect setup 👌 Let's you take in the beautiful scenery on the lake as you cruise along
When I first saw it I thought 50's era with that "atomic" age styling like the old wolverine 22 pistols. But yeah 83 years old and still ticking. Pretty damn impressive. Imagine trying to get a modern sears product to live for 83 years... It won't happen.
I inherited a Whiney Wolverine pistol from my dad!
that was just amazing.... what a terrific little old engine! VERY well done sir!
My kind of lake... don’t see to many camps along the shore.
The Waterwitch looked happy being back in the water!
Come to Michigan. There is more water than people.
Huge smile ! Nice lake. I can feel the bass biting.
"these are the voyages, of the starship Mustie"
Captains log star date 10 11 2020
"Engage #1"
It was awesome watching you bring this piece of history back to life.
Going out on the water with that engine? Take the drill. Every time.
That is one of the coolest vintage outboards i've seen.
That petrol tank is like something from Flash Gordon.
I was thinking more along the lines of the rocketeer myself.
We're both showing our age.
Thoroughly enjoyed this one. Thank you Mustie 1 for the pleasure. It proves a point, just because something's old doesn't mean it's no good.
A bit hard to ski behind, but seems happy.
not much for trolling either
but gets one from point A to point B
That’s absolutely perfect! Of course, being men of the 21st century, the drill with a full battery is an must have! Can’t be pulling on a rope ya know!!😁
And you don’t need no stinkin boating license at that size!! You’ve created a perfect little fishing and boating escape pod there!!
I love Musti’s laugh when a decrepit motor runs for the first time. You know it’s coming b/c he always gets it to run.
Back in the early 60s I can remember the old motor mower adaptor kits. Mow the lawn on Saturday, unbolt the engine & throttle cable off the mower, mount it on the outboard leg, hook up the throttle cable, go fishing on Sunday (after church). Fuel tank was mounted on the engine and all air cooled and could spin the unit for reverse, 😂😂😂. Mounted on a clinker built row boat, top speed about 3 knots (5mph), 😂😂.
What an old beaut!! Enjoy seeing and hearing this, brought back memories.
Thanks Mustie
Hey Mustie, there is only one thing you didn't show us: What happens when you "accidently" push the primer when the engine is running.
I imagine it would shut off since the primer is also the check valve for moving the fuel mix from the crankcase to the cylinder. If you keep the valve from closing, the gas would just get blown right out of the crankcase.
Thanks for Sharing! I always enjoy watching you bring things back to life!
It is a good thing that you had electric start, as the Water Witches carburetor has to be set exactly to get them to start with a rope, otherwise it is a Sears and Rowback. I actually really like these motors and have one each of most of the models, but they are super finicky and and can be a real test of ones mechanical ability to get them to run.
Is thats enough water exiting the exhaust I've seen a lot of small boat motors an i usually see a little stream
The water pump is a piston type and the water comes out in spurts. The water has to fill the water jacket before it exits out the stand pipe, so the pump is working as it should.@@dvnope2408
Send pictures
Fantastic!!! 83 years old and still running!! SO nice work you did - well done!!!!
The carb acts like a reed valve on a modern outboard.
probably works just as good as the new stuff
@@haydenc2742
I would suspect that the large reciprocating valve in this carburetor probably can't oscillate at a higher rate. Limiting the rpm of the engine , but it was probably designed to operate well in that RPM range, todays two strokes tend to rev much higher, and they can do that because of the very lightweight reed valves used.
I definitely like this engine, it seems to run very well and actually has a really nice sound. Definitely the kind of thing you would want on a boat, not making a ton of racket if you're going out fishing.
Very cool, I'm honestly surprised it moved the boat as well as it did! Oldie but Goldie 😉
That tank is definitely the rocketeer’s jet pack repurposed
IKR...that's what I thought
Excellent videos. Many thanks for taking the time to film your work and share it with us.
Glad you enjoyed it
I'm giving her all she's got captain!
I knew someone would coin that phrase😆
Fantastic, i love it when an engine, motor comes to life 😁 love your show