Alice Pack BOB_72 hour pack Part 1
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Here is a description of my Alice pack Bug out Bag or 72 hour pack. I plan on buggin in, however you never know when you may have to leave your house for things such as wildfires, hazardous material spills, natural disasters or other man made disasters. I am always changing and upgrading my pack, contents and setups. I have used the Alice pack for years as well as many other packs, I keep returning to the Alice pack as my pack of choice due to its versatality.
I have slightly modified my pack to make it more comfortable by using the Molle II straps and hip belt. I have also added the Molle II Modular Sleep System Carrier for my sleeping gear.
I use this pack for other things as well such as for Civil Air Patrol extended missions, 2-5 day trips, and some overnight trips. Depending on what I will be doing is how I will load it out.
I have the MSS also and the green patrol bag is more like a 40 degree bag.
I'm wrapping up my freshman year of highschool and I've been using a ALICE pack to hold all of my gear so I don't waste time having to go to my locker which is on the third floor and most of my classes are on the first floor.
the other reason why is because one of my MCJROTC buddies also uses one. you don't want to use the Japanese made ALICE pack cause they will just fall apart. so you're going to want to get the US made ones
Those things are tough as hell. Used to live out of them for months at a time. My modern pack leaves a bit to be desired. That bitch "Alice", stands up on its butt making for easy access with the L frame and makes a decent chair back. The newer packs just roll and flop around like a dead fish. If you use it for a chair back or try and stand it upright it will either fall over or get mudded/sticker'd up in the wrong places. With a winter bag hanger the Alice is a bit more to struggle.
What is the Average Weight of a BOB ?Military average ranges in 50-75lbs.
Cheers ;-))
I started with the large, and found that I packed it way too full. So I down sized to the medium, made the small modifications and its much more comfortable, and I can still pack more stuff in it.
11 YEARS AGO!!!?? WOW! This is an oldie.
Oh yes. 😳. I have taken slot of videos down lately, but some I have left. 🤷🏼♂️
A lot has changed since making this one too. 😁
Military Poncho
Nice pack set up. Good informative video
@irishgotee
WOW !!! $250 for a frame for an Alice Pack?? Thats ridiculous ! I would like to see that, do you have a link? The frame the pack comes with is ok, you can drill out the rivots and put in screws with locking washes and nuts and it holds up better. There also used to be some plastic type frames out there for them, but I dont think they make them anymore.
One thing you might want to add is x-lax (unless I missed it in the vid) 'cause those MREs will stop you up quick. Plus if you're an old gunney like myself, you HAVE to pack your daily meds also..........hell getting near 60, let me tell you. Thanks for the vid my friend, good info.
@nroc13
Medium is what I would go with, however the frame is the same size for the Medium and large. However if you are shorter, I wouldnt want to get the bigger pack and load it down only to find out that you cant carry it good. So i would go with the medium.
They attach just like the alice do. The alice pack has attachment points, you just feed the molle straps through the attachment point. The straps, sleep carrier and hip belt are a different story. They take a bit on rigging but will fit fine if done properly.
The modifications are up to you. I made the mods because it was more comfortable and I use the pack for other things. If you use the pack for other things, I would suggest the modifications.
Thank you for being the first prepper I've seen on UA-cam who condenses his MRE's by opening up the main bag, and stripping out all the useless cardboard each meal component is wrapped in.
I have a large ALICE pack. The guy from Mystery Ranch says they have one that is twice as big but it is $600. I got a waterproof liner for my ALICE PACK. I looked at a smaller Mystery Ranch and it was very well made, it appeared. My theory is fill it up, bug out and start shedding excess.
@ToastAndSausage I don't know about the alice pack featured in the video, but mine definitely isn't, assuming it ever was. That's why you're issued drysacks to stick inside the main compartment. I suppose you could also find smaller waterproof pouches to stick inside the three external compartments. You can somewhat improve the waterproofing of the pack itself by using the right Nikwax product on the outside of the pack, but it will eventually wear off after a while.
@Roturo8
You are trying to shoot a rifle while wearing the pack?
Drop the pack and then shoot. That will be the easiest thing to do.
@BrianWilsonJacob
I am packing the one bag and bivy. Not all 3 bags. The total weight for the bag and bivy is less than 4lbs together.
@charper3006 One other question would it be a good idea to waterproof the inside of my alice pack with plasti dip it's a spray on or brush on rubber, to waterproof and protect the interior stiching? Just a thought.
Good deal. Two notes about MREs, though.
1> You can save a lot of space on MREs if you remove the outer bag.
2> However, they do not store quite as long. Not important if you're already on the move, but the outer pouch does slightly increase the shelf-life.
Do you carry this in your car? What happens if you're at work or out some where (for me which is 90% of the time) and an EMP makes all vechiles inopperable? I don't understand people that keep their bags at home, doesn't make sense to me.
@charper3006 something even easier and more safe to do if in an ambush is to fall onto you back with the backback on and the rifle between your legs ready to shoot. but that is if you are in an ambush generally
Help. I'm looking into buying a new and improved frame for my large alice pack. found two very nice frames both run about $250, the N.I.C.E frame or the Aruc frame.
ok I give up, I google, molle 2 pack replacement straps and can't find anything. Do you have a part number and a web site so i can do the same chance. thanks...
I also custom made a frame from PVC and extended the bottom, added a shelf to fit my tent and sleeping bag, also a travel hammock, I also wrapped and made webbing on the shelf with parachord in a jam I made it to where I can still undo it for extra rope
@05MagnumSXT
I am glad it helped you bro. Make a video of it when you get it put together...
The weight is supposed to be taken on the hip not the shoulders they just keep it up right
I watched this probably 10+ years ago, and here I am again for a bit of nostalgia! Your videos inspired me to get my own Alice back then, still have it to this day!
Awesome !! I’m glad I could help. This is definitely an old video for sure !! Thanks for watching!! 👍👍
@MurderByFluoride it is really all on what the person with the pack likes like me i cant stand the frame it hurts my back
Hey Charp, if you wanted too, could you carry the ALICE pack with belly band in conjunction with your LBE if you had to?
finally i found someone else like me who strips the cardboard and stuff we dont eat out to fit 2-3 meals in one bag....
@MurderByFluoride from what i see yes but you can modify it to what you like so there is really no right way
@rdawg0000
If you have a Large Alice, you cannot use it without the frame.
@05MagnumSXT
Thanks man. I love my alice pack.
I like your videos too.
I agree. The old Alice is a good pack. Thanks for watching
How did you attach the MOLLE system pouches on the Alice?? (They seem incompatible to me)
hey man check out my allice pack vid and let me know what u think of my setup
@MurderByFluoride
I agree. They are much better with the frame.
are these pack suitable for backpacking trips
im geting one from sportsmen guide
@0122358
Yes, you can however it is a little uncomfortable.
Such limited thinking 72 hrs my bag is the same I pack for life in the woods home where you make it
@ToastAndSausage
Is what waterproof? The bag?
should I buy a medium or large Alice pack for a 24-hour pack?
@rdawg0000 blood for real! bet that has a story behind it!
@Quadmachine0
Barrow Co. GA156 Georgia
@charper3006 Yes you can, you may not want to however.
I took the assault pack off the CFP90 and placed it on my lg alice pack.
this makes for a great scouting bag after you set up camp,Plus it gives
Woodland Camo to the packs back. And of course the molle shoulder
straps and kidney belt. Plus do a paracord grab handle double thick.
I have a pack from the CFP 90. Never thought about attaching that to the Alice. I will have to try that.
Thanks. Yep it works much better.
@Jdog5785
Yes, in my opinion.
I think they're better than what you find in REI.
Nice video, which CAP squadron are you from?
thats what the quick release straps are for
@bigtaviles
I will be doing a video on it soon, its hard to explain. However, I do have a word doc and pics. Stay tuned to my channel and I should get the video up soon.
@LLschoolJ2
Yes as long as you dont overload them. I have used them for years for short backpacking trips. I would suggest getting some better straps and hip belt like I suggested in my other video.
thx for review , got a few ideas from it
@3charter
Thanks!
Thanks for the comment. I too have a CFP90, that I used a few times and found it to be too big, and I bought a Blackhawk Patrol pack as well, but sold it to a friend because I didnt use it. I will however use the cfp90 in winter occassionally.
That philosophy is close to mine....buggin' in, but ready to leave if neccessary. I have a feelin I may return to the ALICE if I can get ahold of those MOLLE straps. The extra padding was one reason I upgraded to a MOLLE-style pack...but it didn't have a frame, which is a real downer :/
@irishgotee
You can, however I have never done that. I put all of my stuff in plastic bags. They make a waterproof liner for the Alice packs. You can usually find them for a few dollars online.
Yes it will fit complete. You will have a little bit of room left, not a whole lot. Thats why I added the MSS Carrier to the bottom.
@nroc13
If you bought EVERYTHING in that pack, including the molle modifications and all the gear, it would probably run you several hundred dollars. I bought stuff and pieced it together over the years. I am always adding and subtracting items as needed.
@gerber23colton
Different places. Some of the gear I have gotten at military surplus stores, other online. It depends on what piece of gear. I have bought the stuff over the years.
@airsoftsurvivalman12
The "mini" packs are small. They would be ok for a day I would think. Personally, I would go with the medium and not fill it as full if you can.
good job im starting to hate my large alice! every month i have to take some gear out, it allows you to pack too much. but i wouldnt give it up for anything.
@fergus5151
Thanks for watching. I like to eat....LOL I have datrex bars in my GHB, but I want some "real" food in a SHTF situation.
Got a brand new large A.L.I.C.E. GI issue from ammo can man and added the frame so for about $100 I got a NEW GI markings pack added the military issue e-tool with a military knife/bayonet that has Alice pack clips to attach. LOVE IT!!! Brings me back to the USMC days.
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yep the frame was the worst part.
@BrianWilsonJacob
I think its a great setup for the money. A little bulky and heavy when its all together, but still I think its worth it.
I reccomend getting a knife for and spoon combonation. They started using them in the civil war its a spoon with a fork on the other and and a knife piece that locks into the fork side covering any sharp ends. I have one and it works great!
Thanks. I like the medium, and I try to keep the weight down because I dont want to carry 70+ pounds if I dont have too.
I agree.
@boomtao
All molle pouches are compatible with the Alice, they attach just like the alice does.
@myfj401974
I will send you a PM because, for some reason I cant paste links to other websites in the comments section.
what kind of poncho is that?
@leongaines
I purchased the straps and hip belt and attached them to the pack. Along with the sleep system carrier.
@25foot
Yes you can. Like I said, I have more than 72 hours of stuff in there. And you can go a week or longer depending on how you pack it.
Hello, when you mentioned making the molle modifications to the Alice...was this a purchase or did you actually do the sewing of straps to make the mods?
@sgtdarkness1 yes i agree
It depends on the person packing it. I like to keep mine as light as possible. This one weighs about 35-40 lbs.
Love the Alice only problem is its design. The pack was made to ride high pushing the weight into your kidneys
Keep up the great work. Be blessed
Thanks for watching
@charper3006 I bet...
If I could do it over again, I would do this pack with the patrol pack. Nice set up man !
I've got both!😀
@kcrone1
NO. I dont carry this in my car. I have another GHB for my car.
@airsoftsurvivalman12 i have a mini, sometimes called a sniper pack, and i use it to go hunting, its great for small trips like that
@sgtdarkness1
Yes, those mres will stop you up.....LOL
Thanks for watching.
I have thought about that. I will try it out. Thanks for watching
i was wondering is there 1 frame for med and large alice or is there 2 different frames
Damn good video , very informative. Got me rethinkiing my current set up.
Great tips , thanks for sharing.
@AdiroundackPrepper
Thanks for watching. I agree.
@SamsGarageSale
Thank you. Thanks for watching.
@sgt64339
depends on what you are doing.
nice mods my man. Like you i love it but also I go back and forth from the ALICE and the MOLLIE II
All Purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment
@Trogiss
I would go with the medium
I saw a guy stuff a hunting butt pillow behind the frame. Works well
1 frame fits both medium and large
i meant what kind of material, sorry for the confusion
@JimmyGunXD556
Thanks.