Love the fact you’re doin these videos with your son. And you’re lucky he’s into camping and all the gear. I’m getting my young son into it and I hope he likes it. Great team!!
All the Roberts boys have grown up hunting, fishing, and camping. None of them have ever known life without those things. Good luck to you and your son Billy!
That M-1967 sleeping carrier system is the best thing ive seen for the alice pack ever. I saw that and immediately started searching online to buy one.
The Alice Chemical Suit compression bag is also a good option, and is likely easier to source than Vietnam era surplus. I’ve only ever seen them in woodland camo.
That's actually not a radio antenna carrier, it's the last type of M-67 Bipod case for the bipod that was issued early on for the XM-16E1/M-16A1. If you look on the back it probably has stamped onit "Case, Bipod". Otherwise some nice ruck mods there, thanks!
You're exactly right! On the back it reads "Case, Bipod" and beneath that it says "M3" and some others that I can't quite make out. Thanks for the information, the watch and comment docback63!
Great mods kid. All my years of carrying an alice pack, i have never seen (or thought of) the paracord thru the alice webs. I have laced a camel bak between the frame and pack, and recently i substituted a condor war belt for the kidney belt, works great for pistol, mag pouches and first aid..
That was something Dad added and until then I'd never seen it done either, but, it sure is handy! I'm thinking of doing something similar with the kidney belt replacement and I have been toying around with the idea of using the Condor war belt. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, jwgbmp40!
Great job on the video, learned a couple of neat ideas. FYI the pocket with no top or bottom located behind the middle outside pouch is great for sliding the machete w/scabbord. It has hooks that loop into the two little eyes directly above it.
Served in 1/75 in the 80’s. When we carried the sleeping bag, we used the sleeping bag straps, also known as the spaghetti straps. We used the sleeping bag straps to attach the sleeping bag to the bottom of the rucksack. We also used the sleeping bag straps to carry a ghillie suit or netting for hide sites.
Good Job Young Man. Is that your father filming?? With no disrespect, would have been great to hear this all from him if most of this was his rack & sack...Happy Holidays!! Older Gear Videos seem to offer a certain appreciation from those that carried them...
A note on the carrier: If you notice on the sleeping bag carrier, the larger velcro part is meant to go around the top of the pack frame and the two other velcro pieces attach around the two pack straps. Essentially, the sleeping bag is mounted to the top of the frame, not the bottom. But it definitely looks like you have a good system worked out so your mileage may vary. Paracord on the side was a new one this 20+ year Soldier. Great video.
@@robertsbushcraft No problem, and thanks. I hope I explained that sufficiently. The external carrier really is a handy addition to the Alice and hard to find. Best of luck.
If you were to have any issue with the rubber underneath the lid you can use flex seal to remedy that i dont know if yall knew that or not lol im a big fan of your channel and a big military surplus user and collector also great job guys love it
As a retired Marine, I've got a lot of old gear still, including the '3-Day Pack' (what was given the nomenclature 'M-1967 Day Pack'), but it doesn't look like what you show there. What you show looks a WHOLE LOT like the old "WP' bag (waterproof bag) used to line inside your ALICE pack...but it didn't have any velcro attachment points on it, only a 'lash cord' sewn into the top of the bag. Decent set-up, but I think that sleeping bag set would be hard for most to locate now-days. Also note, you'd have to add a frame extension for the old LC-1 frame, if you are trying to pull this off with the 'LARGE ALICE' pack...as it extends down to the bottom of the frame itself, where the 'medium' doesn't. I've made pack extensions before...using 'hard 1/2" copper tubing' and lashing it on with 100-mph tape...but sitting down even for a moment, with too much lower frame, is a REAL hassle... As for your web gear...yes, there were both 'Y' and 'H' harnesses...'H' were more 'post-Vietnam', while 'Y' was earlier (dating back to Korea). The ALICE pack wasn't authorized until 1973, BTW, and few made it to Vietnam before the war ended...distribution was mostly stateside-garrison after 1974.
Thank you for your service Skeeter Saurus. I have one of the bags that you mention, Dad says they used to call it a Willy Peter (meaning waterproof) bag. It's sort of an oxford nylon outer material and black rubberized on the inner. I almost bought a large ALICE pack once but it was sold before I could get to it. SEMPER FI and thank you for watching and commenting!
Hi. Thank you for sharing some great ideas. I will be using the loops, sternum straps and the OR belt ideas. I will also try the UK poncho roll on the bottom. Stay safe in these troubled times. ATB. Nigel
FANTASTIC VIDEO THANK YOU! i GOT MY FIRST ALICE PACK WITH FRAME ONLY TODAY!! LOOKING TO MOD IT AND MAKE IT THE BEST BAG I'VE EVER OWNED. THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR DAD FOR THE VIDEO
@@robertsbushcraft I've just ordered the M1967 Sleeping Bag Carrier to hold my sleeping bag below my pack and the US Vietnam War Era Canvas Sleeping Bag Carrying Strap Assembly so i can strap a tent to the top of the pack :)
That's a good suggestion for another video JT. We'll brew a bit of coffee in it next time. Until then this is small clip of it in action on our Instagram page: instagram.com/p/BsPA6ylB_bf/?
@@robertsbushcraft Yes, please do a video on it! Always looking for new ways to get a good cup of coffee in the woods, or in a grid-down situation. Thanks for sharing!
Question about the M1967 Sleeping Bag Carrier: Did you put your poncho/poncho liner rolled up into a Willy Peter Bag? It looks like rip-stop material and OD green. What is it? I have the carrier and am attaching to my Alice Medium just like you but would like to know what your using as a stuff sack. Thank you. Great vid.
That is the TCOP (Tent, Combat, One Person) stuff sack that I am using. Once in a while you'll see them on Ebay, as of now, I can't find any. The Diamond Brand (or Eureka) Combat Tent stuff sack is a bit larger than the TCOP's but would work well in my opinion: ebay.to/36xOkOF
@@robertsbushcraft Thanks a bunch for the reply. I'm going to try my old willy peter bag and see if that will work. It's a little large but can be rolled up. Great channel.
I put the tactical tailor super straps on my Alice and it is a major improvement, much nicer straps and they’ll last way longer, I realize the straps (costing $50-$60) will usually cost more than the whole Alice itself but it’s worth it
The tactical tailor straps will loosen up on you more than issued ones. I found myself cinching them back down every 15 minutes. It might also be because my pair is 10 years old...
I see I watched this 5 yrs ago.. lol. It was worth a rerun! Also, I recently picked up a cotton canvas two pocket arvn pack, like my dad carried on 68 and brought home.. he still uses it today for pogie bait in deer season. As Ive gotten older I have found the smaller pack better as well.
You can also use a the plunger out of a Walmart "Bodum" French press. It'll fit the Stanley perfectly. Ngl, I just grabbed the French press from the coffee maker isle, took it to the sporting goods isle and tested the plunger in one of their Stanley pots before packing everything up and buying it all. Lol
I appreciate your using the old ALICE medium rucksack, but I don't agree with some of your modifications. After carrying the ALICE large (mostly) for 20 years, with way too heavy a load (80-120 lbs of U.S. Army manportable gear), I found it a well designed pack up to the task. I always liked the medium rucksack for it's compactness and ability to work with the frame or without. The large cavernous center pocket and large outside pockets allowed us to carry almost any mission required equipment. While technology has allowed us to replace buckles and straps, there hasn't been many other modifications required, although I have attached a pouch to the lid for admin equipment I may need on the trail (i.e., headlamp energy bars, etc.)
@@robertsbushcraft Yes , Sir ! I don't know is it after market item or what but it definitely changes game on your Alice pack. It will support your pack from the bottom so you don't really need to worry about putting heavy stuff then it might bottom out or what . It actually stables your pack against up and down movements and side to side movements. Initially , I put this plate because in case of emergency I can create a kind of a chair to carry my friend who might got injured on my back and safely go down from mountain without further damages . And this plate will greatly would help to support neatly arranged wood tied with cordage to make where you can be sit on . Or carry large amount of fire woods or animal quarries back to camp site . The problem is when you insert the bottom plate tab to the frame but then it would detach itself while on a move so what I did was put cable ties in tie double like crisscross x letters then put Paracord loops in case, zip-tie gives up and fails because of deteriorations and fatigues on plastic. If you do that you still have a back up to not drop and lose the plate at field . If zip ties fails then It would be just hanging around from the frame . I did try putting steel wires but ive drop that options because it might poke holes and create damages on already old my Alice pack itself . Over that bottom plate I slide in Fast food restaurant's food tray between pack to expand the size of support area for the bag itself. For your size of bag I would recommend cutting plastic as same as size of bottom part of your pack and insert it inside of your pack . How food tray came about was My friend at that time worked at McDonald's and he scored it for me . LoL 😂 My Alice pack is large size and because of that I tend to put so much stuff and gets so heavy overall. I would say over 50 pounds easily. With survival kit , hunting knife , Nata hatchet , U.S. mil issued pocket chain saw ( oh ! This thing is so awesome you gatta have it ! 😉) , MSR seagull pot with MSR stoves inside , windshield , foods and spice , sleeping bag biby , hammock set up , carabineers, 50 m ropes, basic rock climbing gears, wool blanket, rolled sleep pad, clothes , water filteration kit , two canteens with canteen stove and cups , shower kit , foldable sink , microfiber bath towel, two person tent ( I don't really use one because of MMS sleep system Bivy but I want to... LoL) , a large can of bear spray, Sling shot and arrows , French mil mess tin kit , utensils, alcohol stove and fuel bottle, gas canisters, etcetcetc...lol 😂 But because of the plate I would not need to worry about bottom out my old fragile Alice pack and I truly highly recommend you to obtain it with your sleeping bag poncho carrer under it . I was wondering what I can put on those bottom loops and since you guys convinced me to buy that sleeping bag carrer with your video I gave up trying up my sleeping bag and blanket each times now ! Phew ! Thank you ! Life will gets much better I bet with that ! LoL 😂
A very good video! Thanks for sharing your ideas. Several will make their way onto my large ALICE pack. I found a M1976 sleep system carrier in new condition! One thing I didn't hear in the video was the total weight of that pack system as shown. How heavy? I'd also like to say that it's evident you have a lot of respect for your Dad and a great relationship. You do well on camera and have a great NC accent. I'm from KY originally and my accent finds it way out any time I'm around my "people". I was a boy scout (an Eagle!) all through the 70s and the ALICE was a very common pack back then. Was at the scout store recently and they have gone high tech with a rack full of Ospreys. Oh well, we traditionalists can continue to fly the mil-surp flag.
We will have to weigh it out, I think I remember Dad saying that it was around 20 (maybe 25) pounds or so. And yes sir I do have a ton of respect for my Dad and we have a great relationship! Becoming an Eagle is an accomplishment to be proud of Mitch and I will always fly the mil-surp flag. Thanks for taking a bit of time to watch and comment!
The next time l'm able to get my hands on an old trashed ALICE I may just try that and see how well it works. Thanks for watching and for the suggestion, Mr. Ladd!
Tricked that Alice out real nice!...don't think we used the Alice in country...at least we were never issued the pack, it was not issued to troops until 73/74...by then most US troops were out of there,front line US troops being replaced by ARVN troops, even though technically the war didn't end til 75....saw packs similar looking to miss Alice...but no Alice packs. well anyways, a good review amigo!...atb...woods
So the reason why the Alice pk don't have sternum straps Is because when you pull the 2 quick releases that are on the pk to drop the pk in combat a sternum strap will come up and choke you the weight of the pk would be on your throat You could die that is why there's no You could die that is why there's no sternum straps on the military issue Alice pk
When you are wearing the pack there is a gap between your back and the pack frame. If you want to save some room in the pack you can attach your camelbak to the frame in this space. Nice post.
I've tried that before and didn't quite like the fit. Granted that was with an older style Camelbak that rounded when filled...maybe I'll try it again with the one shown in the video.
I seen a video mod where a man replaced his alice pack lid with an I.L.B.E. marines pack lid which offers a lot more storage inside it and its inner pocket has a great zipper opening
It's pretty easy to do. Just weave the paracord in the slot of the buckle and around the attachment on the ALICE pack and tie a good knot and then melt the ends of the paracord.
Great mods to an old pack, that's what I do quite a bit as I'll get something then I'll modify it to improve it or add to it, I think it's good to think out the box..
It's a ton of fun, isn't it? There's few more mods that needs to be done like the buckles on the outside pockets, making the lid as waterproof as possible, adding velcro to the ends of the straps for easy stow and a ton more. Thanks for watching and commenting Rich!
Nice Video! I love the Alice packs. Got it in all sizes now because they are so flexible. What kind of water bladder does your father use? Greetings from Germany!
Hello i just got my sleeping gear poncho carrier fro eBay after seeing your video. Could you do a more in-depth video describing how you attached it to the alice pack and how you attach your sleep gear to it and what sleep gear you used in it because I'd like to set mine up the way you did
@@robertsbushcraft thank You Bud! Now that i am older, i look back on things me and Dad did together, Yes we're always competeing ..but he passed on, he will always be an inpiration for me He too was, #vietMarineVet Glad you and your Dad are Awesome. Keep it up Greatest Respect to you my friend. May God bless.
Cool setup I love to see music at the beginning very nice Classy Touch anyways my mane point was your dad doesn't have the 10ft ranger toggle rope do they use for more to clear into the 80s or 90s
You're right! I am assuming you mean the toggle rope that can be used to hang hammocks, gear and pretty much used for anything, correct? We'll need to make a couple and add it to our kits. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Love my ALICE pack, they must be the most versatile pack of all times. I've been looking at ways to attach additional items, but looking for the best ways to silent, or muffle any rattles when needing to move quickly thru the bush. Electric tape works, but makes things sticky. Thought about types of stretchable velcro wraps. Any ideas would make a great video.
They call them Ranger bands. rubber bands cut from the inner tube of bicycles. Also, continuous loops (either Dyneema or made from paracord) also research Canadian Jam Knot. People who operate in non-permissive environments often revamp their equipment using these items.
It also attaches to the Alice pack frame as well when you have the cargo shelf and I see your dad has the medium Alice pack not badi have the large and I love it and I will be walking the Appalachian trail with it in 2 years
Modding an old Alice pack is like painting over rust. Looks nice but doesn’t solve the problems. While they are still available, go to eBay and pickup a London Bridge Trading 8 or 10 pocket ruck. It’s what the Alice pack should have been from the beginning.
@@robertsbushcraft Keep in mind they stopped making them in 2017. So most of what you will find are surplus ones from various army and marine special operations units that are being DX'd. I figure you've got maybe 12 months to 18 months left before they are done filtering out of the system. After that they will become as scarce as the UM21 (strap master 2000).
The price point doesn't even begin to compare. You can get a large ALICE ruck for $30-$80 depending on the source and quality. Including new reproductions. And they're everywhere. You can get parts and accessories at almost any surplus store and even Amazon. Meanwhile, those Gucci LBT rucks are considerably more expensive for what they offer, and are quite a bit harder to find. For the money, you're better off embracing the tacti-cool and going full MOLLE II. MOLLE is honestly more available now and cheaper than the old ALICE gear. Just doesn't have that old school charm. If we're just spanking it to awesome, old-school rucks, I'd prefer one of the old Swedish LK70 packs, personally.
@@wanderingcalamity360 Gucci? You literally haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. Actual Large Alice Packs with Frame when you could still buy them brand new were around 350.00. It's been 20 years since their production ended. All the new garbage you see is chinese clones that aren't worth what you will pay for them. The LBT 8 and 10 pocket and Tactical Taylor's Malice pack series are leaps and bounds beyond the original Alice. Yes, they cost more and if your only use for it is LARPing then not worth the money. If you intend to actually use it then well worth the money for vastly superior build quality and materials, not to mention design. It all depends on usage, if your running an old school LBE then Alice, if running a plate carrier MOLLE pack. If you want something better than military issue then you go with an LBT or in the case of a plate carrier a Mystery Ranch 6500. If your just going backpacking in the mountains then Kifaru makes some hella nice packs. The real question is how cheap are you? Its kind of like the guy who tries to justify why a Hi Point is just as good as a STI 2011. If you know what you are talking about you can tell and understand why there is a difference in price.
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Love the fact you’re doin these videos with your son. And you’re lucky he’s into camping and all the gear. I’m getting my young son into it and I hope he likes it. Great team!!
All the Roberts boys have grown up hunting, fishing, and camping. None of them have ever known life without those things. Good luck to you and your son Billy!
Really it’s one of the best parts of the channel. I just found it and my two boys love it for that very reason.
That M-1967 sleeping carrier system is the best thing ive seen for the alice pack ever. I saw that and immediately started searching online to buy one.
It's honestly one of my favorites. I use it on my newer packs too!
The Alice Chemical Suit compression bag is also a good option, and is likely easier to source than Vietnam era surplus. I’ve only ever seen them in woodland camo.
That's actually not a radio antenna carrier, it's the last type of M-67 Bipod case for the bipod that was issued early on for the XM-16E1/M-16A1. If you look on the back it probably has stamped onit "Case, Bipod". Otherwise some nice ruck mods there, thanks!
You're exactly right! On the back it reads "Case, Bipod" and beneath that it says "M3" and some others that I can't quite make out. Thanks for the information, the watch and comment docback63!
Great mods kid. All my years of carrying an alice pack, i have never seen (or thought of) the paracord thru the alice webs. I have laced a camel bak between the frame and pack, and recently i substituted a condor war belt for the kidney belt, works great for pistol, mag pouches and first aid..
That was something Dad added and until then I'd never seen it done either, but, it sure is handy! I'm thinking of doing something similar with the kidney belt replacement and I have been toying around with the idea of using the Condor war belt. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, jwgbmp40!
I am definitely using the paracord loops everywhere idea.
That's fantastic Eagle! Thanks for watching and commenting!
nice set up, been using these for a couple decades and still learned a thing or two
Awesome video I love the axe idea, definitely a must have on my new Alice pack.
In my experience I found that the gap between the 3 pockets on the back was good for stuffing the straps from closing the main compartment.
Hey that's the beauty of it being open like that, it works for just about anything.
Great job on the video, learned a couple of neat ideas. FYI the pocket with no top or bottom located behind the middle outside pouch is great for sliding the machete w/scabbord. It has hooks that loop into the two little eyes directly above it.
Thanks for that info Jay!
awesome video. I will now be throwing a paracord loop everywhere I can. Such a simple yet effective fix
Man that's awesome, Kevin. You'll be surprised at just how hand-dandy they are.
I've had an alice pack for 15 years and never thought about adding paracord to them rivet holes, I feel stupid lol thanks for the idea.
Served in 1/75 in the 80’s. When we carried the sleeping bag, we used the sleeping bag straps, also known as the spaghetti straps. We used the sleeping bag straps to attach the sleeping bag to the bottom of the rucksack. We also used the sleeping bag straps to carry a ghillie suit or netting for hide sites.
Nice mods, thanks for sharing. Good to see someone doing a video again on the good ol' Alice pack!
I love this pack! Thank you for watching and for commenting!
2:14 that pouch is actually a m16 bipod case, not a radio antenna pouch
Thanks for info, @NEWJERSEYBB-62
Good review, young man. There's hope for the future after all.
Hey thanks for the encouragement, Joe!
Good Job Young Man. Is that your father filming?? With no disrespect, would have been great to hear this all from him if most of this was his rack & sack...Happy Holidays!! Older Gear Videos seem to offer a certain appreciation from those that carried them...
Antenna pouch looks a lot like the old bipod pouch.
I have 1 of those pouches and it is for the bipod for the M16
Good idea on the axe attachment.
Hey thanks, Rambo!
A note on the carrier: If you notice on the sleeping bag carrier, the larger velcro part is meant to go around the top of the pack frame and the two other velcro pieces attach around the two pack straps. Essentially, the sleeping bag is mounted to the top of the frame, not the bottom. But it definitely looks like you have a good system worked out so your mileage may vary. Paracord on the side was a new one this 20+ year Soldier. Great video.
Hey thanks for the tips and your service, Matthew!
@@robertsbushcraft No problem, and thanks. I hope I explained that sufficiently. The external carrier really is a handy addition to the Alice and hard to find. Best of luck.
U done a good job on this video, taught me a lot. Love the way your dad has that set up.
Dad has his gear squared away! I'm happy that we were able to offer good information to you. Thanks for watching and commenting, Billy!
2:30 I think that's a m16 bipod pouch
I do believe you are correct, Tom!
Its actually the bipod pouch for the M14.
thoroughly good video. the front straps are a good addition.
Hey thanks, AntomanElven!
If you were to have any issue with the rubber underneath the lid you can use flex seal to remedy that i dont know if yall knew that or not lol im a big fan of your channel and a big military surplus user and collector also great job guys love it
Flex seal is an excellent option! Thanks for the tip, Forest Wizard!
Great job guys love yall channel great tips and tricks thanks
I'm 2yrs late to this video. But I'm glad I found it. Keep it up.
We're glad you found it too, Kaz!
Very cool ideas, especially that carry handle. I really dig my modified ALICE; she's such a dependable beast.
The carry handle alone is one of the best mods you can do with this pack, Flying Wile E!
As a retired Marine, I've got a lot of old gear still, including the '3-Day Pack' (what was given the nomenclature 'M-1967 Day Pack'), but it doesn't look like what you show there. What you show looks a WHOLE LOT like the old "WP' bag (waterproof bag) used to line inside your ALICE pack...but it didn't have any velcro attachment points on it, only a 'lash cord' sewn into the top of the bag. Decent set-up, but I think that sleeping bag set would be hard for most to locate now-days. Also note, you'd have to add a frame extension for the old LC-1 frame, if you are trying to pull this off with the 'LARGE ALICE' pack...as it extends down to the bottom of the frame itself, where the 'medium' doesn't. I've made pack extensions before...using 'hard 1/2" copper tubing' and lashing it on with 100-mph tape...but sitting down even for a moment, with too much lower frame, is a REAL hassle...
As for your web gear...yes, there were both 'Y' and 'H' harnesses...'H' were more 'post-Vietnam', while 'Y' was earlier (dating back to Korea). The ALICE pack wasn't authorized until 1973, BTW, and few made it to Vietnam before the war ended...distribution was mostly stateside-garrison after 1974.
Thank you for your service Skeeter Saurus. I have one of the bags that you mention, Dad says they used to call it a Willy Peter (meaning waterproof) bag. It's sort of an oxford nylon outer material and black rubberized on the inner. I almost bought a large ALICE pack once but it was sold before I could get to it. SEMPER FI and thank you for watching and commenting!
Hi. Thank you for sharing some great ideas. I will be using the loops, sternum straps and the OR belt ideas. I will also try the UK poncho roll on the bottom. Stay safe in these troubled times. ATB. Nigel
You are welcome, Bushcraft Prepper!
What a great set up you're dad has nice job
I'll pass that along to him, Edward. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Excellent review. Thanks for sharing!
Hey thanks, Steven!
FANTASTIC VIDEO THANK YOU! i GOT MY FIRST ALICE PACK WITH FRAME ONLY TODAY!! LOOKING TO MOD IT AND MAKE IT THE BEST BAG I'VE EVER OWNED. THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR DAD FOR THE VIDEO
You are very welcome, and I hope you enjoy your ALICE!
@@robertsbushcraft I've just ordered the M1967 Sleeping Bag Carrier to hold my sleeping bag below my pack and the US Vietnam War Era Canvas Sleeping Bag Carrying Strap Assembly so i can strap a tent to the top of the pack :)
@@robertsbushcraft I think i've been quite lucky to find either of them seeing as I'm in the UK haha
Great video, thanks for sharing! Would LOVE to see your dad's coffee percolator setup for the Stanley cook set!
That's a good suggestion for another video JT. We'll brew a bit of coffee in it next time. Until then this is small clip of it in action on our Instagram page: instagram.com/p/BsPA6ylB_bf/?
@@robertsbushcraft Yes, please do a video on it! Always looking for new ways to get a good cup of coffee in the woods, or in a grid-down situation. Thanks for sharing!
Just got the large and medium size packs... and I'm definitely gonna steel all these tips thanks much!
Right on, Tim!
Good job on the video lad!
Thank you, Joe!
Question about the M1967 Sleeping Bag Carrier: Did you put your poncho/poncho liner rolled up into a Willy Peter Bag? It looks like rip-stop material and OD green. What is it? I have the carrier and am attaching to my Alice Medium just like you but would like to know what your using as a stuff sack. Thank you. Great vid.
That is the TCOP (Tent, Combat, One Person) stuff sack that I am using. Once in a while you'll see them on Ebay, as of now, I can't find any. The Diamond Brand (or Eureka) Combat Tent stuff sack is a bit larger than the TCOP's but would work well in my opinion: ebay.to/36xOkOF
Wait! No, that is a MACS bag! ebay.to/2OLGNol
@@robertsbushcraft Thanks a bunch for the reply. I'm going to try my old willy peter bag and see if that will work. It's a little large but can be rolled up. Great channel.
I really like the paracord wrap around the frame. Do you have a video showing how you did it? What type of knot did you use to tie it off?
I am a Marine, good video young man! Subscribed.
Hey thanks for that sub, leatherneck!
Alice is back
And that's a fact! Thanks for watching and commenting, gilles!
Where could i find the list of different kind bag Alice as "patent?!" ? Sorry i'm learning your langage...
Good question, maybe the US Patent office?
I put the tactical tailor super straps on my Alice and it is a major improvement, much nicer straps and they’ll last way longer, I realize the straps (costing $50-$60) will usually cost more than the whole Alice itself but it’s worth it
I will definitely check those out. Share a video if you have one. I would love to see those. - Gabriel
The tactical tailor straps will loosen up on you more than issued ones. I found myself cinching them back down every 15 minutes. It might also be because my pair is 10 years old...
@@uberdan08 Good to know!
Just got my first ALICE pack today, just need to find a frame in good condition. But I'll definitely be using some of these tips
I'm glad that we could pass along some inspiration! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, Edward. Good luck!
Where did you get one and what brand is it? (i.e. - original or one of the more current versions)
@@drive-byguitarlessons1858 origional but id have to take a look again to see what gen
For an awesome frame, look at the DEI 1606, at 42 bucks it's well worth it.
I see I watched this 5 yrs ago.. lol. It was worth a rerun! Also, I recently picked up a cotton canvas two pocket arvn pack, like my dad carried on 68 and brought home.. he still uses it today for pogie bait in deer season. As Ive gotten older I have found the smaller pack better as well.
Thats a awesome video. Thanks. You gave some great useable mods.
Hey thanks, Lorie!
That's a awesome setup! Thanks for sharing!!
Hey thanks for watching and commenting Hog Creek Village!
Some excellent ideas here, great video 😀
Hey thanks for watching and commenting, Andrew!
Where did you get the coffee adapter? I've been looking for that very thing to for my Stanley cook cup. Thanks.
It came out of an older Ozark Trail coffee percolator from Walmart
You can also use a the plunger out of a Walmart "Bodum" French press. It'll fit the Stanley perfectly.
Ngl, I just grabbed the French press from the coffee maker isle, took it to the sporting goods isle and tested the plunger in one of their Stanley pots before packing everything up and buying it all. Lol
I appreciate your using the old ALICE medium rucksack, but I don't agree with some of your modifications. After carrying the ALICE large (mostly) for 20 years, with way too heavy a load (80-120 lbs of U.S. Army manportable gear), I found it a well designed pack up to the task. I always liked the medium rucksack for it's compactness and ability to work with the frame or without. The large cavernous center pocket and large outside pockets allowed us to carry almost any mission required equipment. While technology has allowed us to replace buckles and straps, there hasn't been many other modifications required, although I have attached a pouch to the lid for admin equipment I may need on the trail (i.e., headlamp energy bars, etc.)
Thank you for the input! Thank you for your service!
I love Alice pack . I have large onev with bottom plate . Can carry so much weights with this . All the weights goes on to a belt the waist part .
Bottom plate? Do you mean the shelf looking thing that attaches to the frame? We'll eventually pick a couple of those up.
@@robertsbushcraft Yes , Sir !
I don't know is it after market item or what but it definitely changes game on your Alice pack. It will support your pack from the bottom so you don't really need to worry about putting heavy stuff then it might bottom out or what . It actually stables your pack against up and down movements and side to side movements.
Initially , I put this plate because in case of emergency I can create a kind of a chair to carry my friend who might got injured on my back and safely go down from mountain without further damages . And this plate will greatly would help to support neatly arranged wood tied with cordage to make where you can be sit on . Or carry large amount of fire woods or animal quarries back to camp site .
The problem is when you insert the bottom plate tab to the frame but then it would detach itself while on a move so what I did was put cable ties in tie double like crisscross x letters then put Paracord loops in case, zip-tie gives up and fails because of deteriorations and fatigues on plastic. If you do that you still have a back up to not drop and lose the plate at field . If zip ties fails then It would be just hanging around from the frame . I did try putting steel wires but ive drop that options because it might poke holes and create damages on already old my Alice pack itself . Over that bottom plate I slide in Fast food restaurant's food tray between pack to expand the size of support area for the bag itself.
For your size of bag I would recommend cutting plastic as same as size of bottom part of your pack and insert it inside of your pack .
How food tray came about was My friend at that time worked at McDonald's and he scored it for me . LoL 😂
My Alice pack is large size and because of that I tend to put so much stuff and gets so heavy overall. I would say over 50 pounds easily. With survival kit , hunting knife , Nata hatchet , U.S. mil issued pocket chain saw ( oh ! This thing is so awesome you gatta have it ! 😉) , MSR seagull pot with MSR stoves inside , windshield , foods and spice , sleeping bag biby , hammock set up , carabineers, 50 m ropes, basic rock climbing gears, wool blanket, rolled sleep pad, clothes , water filteration kit , two canteens with canteen stove and cups , shower kit , foldable sink , microfiber bath towel, two person tent ( I don't really use one because of MMS sleep system Bivy but I want to... LoL) , a large can of bear spray, Sling shot and arrows , French mil mess tin kit , utensils, alcohol stove and fuel bottle, gas canisters, etcetcetc...lol 😂
But because of the plate I would not need to worry about bottom out my old fragile Alice pack and I truly highly recommend you to obtain it with your sleeping bag poncho carrer under it . I was wondering what I can put on those bottom loops and
since you guys convinced me to buy that sleeping bag carrer with your video I gave up trying up my sleeping bag and blanket each times now ! Phew ! Thank you ! Life will gets much better I bet with that ! LoL 😂
Pretty cool mods, great job :-)
Thank you Rathwulven Bushcraft! Dad is happy with this setup for now!
A very good video! Thanks for sharing your ideas. Several will make their way onto my large ALICE pack. I found a M1976 sleep system carrier in new condition! One thing I didn't hear in the video was the total weight of that pack system as shown. How heavy? I'd also like to say that it's evident you have a lot of respect for your Dad and a great relationship. You do well on camera and have a great NC accent. I'm from KY originally and my accent finds it way out any time I'm around my "people". I was a boy scout (an Eagle!) all through the 70s and the ALICE was a very common pack back then. Was at the scout store recently and they have gone high tech with a rack full of Ospreys. Oh well, we traditionalists can continue to fly the mil-surp flag.
We will have to weigh it out, I think I remember Dad saying that it was around 20 (maybe 25) pounds or so. And yes sir I do have a ton of respect for my Dad and we have a great relationship! Becoming an Eagle is an accomplishment to be proud of Mitch and I will always fly the mil-surp flag. Thanks for taking a bit of time to watch and comment!
Have yall ever done the flex seal mod?
Not yet, but we plan to at some point.
Thanks for making the video. 🇺🇸
You're welcome, Brandy!
There in also sleepeng pag carrier molle 2, for alise system it goes also down to alice...
I think we going to eventually pick up a couple of those. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment FinnBushCraft Eriksson!
I wanna see a battle between dad an son pac review. Great pac an vid.👍👍🔥⛺
Now that's an idea!
I would take flex seal and restore the old disintegrated rubberized top, it’ll help waterproof the pack
The next time l'm able to get my hands on an old trashed ALICE I may just try that and see how well it works. Thanks for watching and for the suggestion, Mr. Ladd!
Tricked that Alice out real nice!...don't think we used the Alice in country...at least we were never issued the pack, it was not issued to troops until 73/74...by then most US troops were out of there,front line US troops being replaced by ARVN troops, even though technically the war didn't end til 75....saw packs similar looking to miss Alice...but no Alice packs.
well anyways, a good review amigo!...atb...woods
Thank you kindly MTwoodsrunner! Dad takes pride in this pack and I'm glad you stopped by to watch and leave a comment!
Good review. Like the pack mods.
Glad you like them, Emanuel! Thanks for watching and leaving us a comment!
Useful info.
Glad it was helpful, Cito mp!
Very nice gentlemen 🤠
Thank you kindly, Herb!
So the reason why the Alice pk don't have sternum straps Is because when you pull the 2 quick releases that are on the pk to drop the pk in combat a sternum strap will come up and choke you the weight of the pk would be on your throat You could die that is why there's no You could die that is why there's no sternum straps on the military issue Alice pk
When you are wearing the pack there is a gap between your back and the pack frame. If you want to save some room in the pack you can attach your camelbak to the frame in this space. Nice post.
I've tried that before and didn't quite like the fit. Granted that was with an older style Camelbak that rounded when filled...maybe I'll try it again with the one shown in the video.
I found that you can. Refurbish the waterproof coating on the inside of the flaps
Green flexi seal
I might give that a try on my next project! Thanks for the suggestion, Brian!
I seen a video mod where a man replaced his alice pack lid with an I.L.B.E. marines pack lid which offers a lot more storage inside it and its inner pocket has a great zipper opening
Use the brown. More subdued
Pop was definetely a basic grunt
whats are those numbers on his watch?
Good set up, & video.
Hey thanks, @robertchapman11111
How did he try the clip-on with paracord? Can you make a video on that?
It's pretty easy to do. Just weave the paracord in the slot of the buckle and around the attachment on the ALICE pack and tie a good knot and then melt the ends of the paracord.
Great mods to an old pack, that's what I do quite a bit as I'll get something then I'll modify it to improve it or add to it, I think it's good to think out the box..
It's a ton of fun, isn't it? There's few more mods that needs to be done like the buckles on the outside pockets, making the lid as waterproof as possible, adding velcro to the ends of the straps for easy stow and a ton more. Thanks for watching and commenting Rich!
Nice Video! I love the Alice packs. Got it in all sizes now because they are so flexible. What kind of water bladder does your father use? Greetings from Germany!
Guten Tag! That bladder is the Camelbak 100 Ounce Mil-Spec Antidote amzn.to/3ddsVjs
Hello i just got my sleeping gear poncho carrier fro eBay after seeing your video. Could you do a more in-depth video describing how you attached it to the alice pack and how you attach your sleep gear to it and what sleep gear you used in it because I'd like to set mine up the way you did
A fantastic idea for a future video, thanks Edward!
That looks like the bipod pouch, my radio anntenae pouch has notch out of the top flap.
I do believe you are right, Donnie.
What kinda watch is that, dad had one just like it. Gave me some great memories..awesome pack
That is the legendary Citizen Promaster Aqualand. Dad had this while he was in the USMC in the early 90's.
@@robertsbushcraft thank You Bud!
Now that i am older, i look back on things me and Dad did together, Yes we're always competeing ..but he passed on, he will always be an inpiration for me He too was, #vietMarineVet
Glad you and your Dad are Awesome. Keep it up Greatest Respect to you my friend. May God bless.
Cool setup I love to see music at the beginning very nice Classy Touch anyways my mane point was your dad doesn't have the 10ft ranger toggle rope do they use for more to clear into the 80s or 90s
You're right! I am assuming you mean the toggle rope that can be used to hang hammocks, gear and pretty much used for anything, correct? We'll need to make a couple and add it to our kits. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Love my ALICE pack, they must be the most versatile pack of all times. I've been looking at ways to attach additional items, but looking for the best ways to silent, or muffle any rattles when needing to move quickly thru the bush. Electric tape works, but makes things sticky. Thought about types of stretchable velcro wraps. Any ideas would make a great video.
That is a great idea and a problem that everyone suffers with the ALICE pack! I think you may be on to something with the Velcro straps!
They call them Ranger bands. rubber bands cut from the inner tube of bicycles. Also, continuous loops (either Dyneema or made from paracord) also research Canadian Jam Knot. People who operate in non-permissive environments often revamp their equipment using these items.
Very good video nice set up thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting Willis!
Very impressive
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave us a comment, John Williams!
Nice mods
Thanks for watching and commenting, Jay!
i use an alice as well. you should use the mollee shoulder straps and kidney waist belt.
Dad has upgraded to the MOLLE waist belt and will eventually do the same with the shoulder straps. Thanks for the suggestion, USMC H&S 2/9!
No mods on my Alice pack and it’s the most comfortable and versatile pack I’ve used for camping ⛺️
The ALICE is tried and true piece of gear!
Super intéressant merci bonne vidéo 👍🇨🇵🤙👍🇨🇵🤙🌲🏕🌳⛺🌲👍🇨🇵🤙👍🇨🇵🤙
Merci et heureux que vous ayez apprécié!
M16 bipod pouch
Exactly what it is! Thanks, logan!
@@robertsbushcraft no problem! Since you have one you think the pouch is big enough to fit a folding saw in it ?
Nice job!
Thanks, George!
Awesome job 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Many thanks my friend!
Another fine video! ATB Sam Adler
Thank you very much, Sam!
It also attaches to the Alice pack frame as well when you have the cargo shelf and I see your dad has the medium Alice pack not badi have the large and I love it and I will be walking the Appalachian trail with it in 2 years
Nice
Thanks, Roy!
The American is still alive.
Alive indeed, Joey!
That's not a radio antenna pouch. It's a bipod pouch.
thats a ar15 bipod pouch
M16/M4 and AR
Nice one
Thank you Cedric!
These are legit hacks or mods, not just tacti-cool frill.
Exactly what we're after, Alan!
Not bad for a medium Alice pack and if you say that's a large jealous pack you're a liar that is a medium a large has three extra pockets on it
I don't recall mentioning this was a large ALICE.
Dont make me subscribe i swear... awe to late man
Welcome aboard, ben!
Check out Blackie Thomas mods you'll love it
Modding an old Alice pack is like painting over rust. Looks nice but doesn’t solve the problems. While they are still available, go to eBay and pickup a London Bridge Trading 8 or 10 pocket ruck. It’s what the Alice pack should have been from the beginning.
I've been hearing alot about those LBT packs and I may just end up grabbing one. Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a suggestion, Ed!
@@robertsbushcraft Keep in mind they stopped making them in 2017. So most of what you will find are surplus ones from various army and marine special operations units that are being DX'd. I figure you've got maybe 12 months to 18 months left before they are done filtering out of the system. After that they will become as scarce as the UM21 (strap master 2000).
@@edwo6648 looking at them now, people sure are proud of those because they are expensive.
The price point doesn't even begin to compare.
You can get a large ALICE ruck for $30-$80 depending on the source and quality. Including new reproductions.
And they're everywhere. You can get parts and accessories at almost any surplus store and even Amazon.
Meanwhile, those Gucci LBT rucks are considerably more expensive for what they offer, and are quite a bit harder to find. For the money, you're better off embracing the tacti-cool and going full MOLLE II. MOLLE is honestly more available now and cheaper than the old ALICE gear. Just doesn't have that old school charm.
If we're just spanking it to awesome, old-school rucks, I'd prefer one of the old Swedish LK70 packs, personally.
@@wanderingcalamity360 Gucci? You literally haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. Actual Large Alice Packs with Frame when you could still buy them brand new were around 350.00. It's been 20 years since their production ended. All the new garbage you see is chinese clones that aren't worth what you will pay for them.
The LBT 8 and 10 pocket and Tactical Taylor's Malice pack series are leaps and bounds beyond the original Alice. Yes, they cost more and if your only use for it is LARPing then not worth the money. If you intend to actually use it then well worth the money for vastly superior build quality and materials, not to mention design.
It all depends on usage, if your running an old school LBE then Alice, if running a plate carrier MOLLE pack. If you want something better than military issue then you go with an LBT or in the case of a plate carrier a Mystery Ranch 6500.
If your just going backpacking in the mountains then Kifaru makes some hella nice packs.
The real question is how cheap are you? Its kind of like the guy who tries to justify why a Hi Point is just as good as a STI 2011. If you know what you are talking about you can tell and understand why there is a difference in price.