TYLA IS NOT BLACK, NICKI MINAJ SINGLE, CHRISEAN GOES TO JAIL, ENCHANTING PASSES AWAY
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Hey #QueenTeam, in this video I talk about #Tyla addressing her blackness, #NickiMinaj making a cryptic tweet about being single, #DeltaSigmaTheta Sorority, Inc. addressing the denouncement of #ZoraSanders, stand culture in female rap particularly with #Latto, memphis rapper #Enchanting passing away, the Nigerian First Lady #OluremiTinubu making condescending comments about Americans, #ChriseanRock getting arrested after stupidly going to a courthouse while having a warrant, and the #CityGirls officially breaking up. What are your thoughts?
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Timestamps/Chapters
00:00 - 01:11 - Intro
01:12 - 08:44 - City Girls are Over
08:45 - 19:41 - Chrisean Rock Arrested
19:42 - 30:50 - Nigeria First Lady vs America
30:51- 35:25 - Enchanting Passes Away
35:26 - 40:12 - Stan Culture: Latto vs Nicki
40:13 - 48:13 - Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Inc. Denounce
48:14 - 53:08 - Nicki Minaj Single
53:09 - 1:01:33 - Tyler is NOT Black
1:01:34 - 1:03:58 - Outro - Навчання та стиль
The girl has more Indian than black and yet only the black community is having this damn ass conversation every few months 😭😭 I haven’t seen not one Indian video asking her to claim her Indian side. We gotta let this ish go fr
It's so embarrassing honestly 🙄
Please shut up , as a south african she is very close to equally everything shes mixed with that is how being coloured works. Do your research. Us coloured people have pur own language and culture and infact the majority of coloureds are white passing , dont speak in what you dont know of its annoying. Stop telling is REAL africans what we are , we know our culture !
“Blacks” are the actual real Indians 😅 embarrassing 4 u
Unambiguous black women/people have an issue with attractive black girls who happen to be mixed or ambiguous
@@Jennyxx-ie5jw okay 😂😂😂😂👍🏾 I don't know how can u be black then be mixed or ambiguous at the same time 💀but what ever makes u sleep at night
People still defending Chrisean at this point is embarrassing.
I call them rocktards.
Seriously
Its mind blowing
It blows my mind when people do that I got dragged last year because I said she was annoying and she needs to get canceled. Honestly, famous people shouldn’t even be famous because what they do anybody could do other than the athletes and the phenomenal singers and dancers what they do is not that groundbreaking when you really think about it because they’re a lot of common things we can do we can go on a TV show and fight people, we can throw drinks we can punch we can pull hair the idolizing of celebrities to stop
It was embarrassing in the beginning
Seems like there people that are begging Tyla to be black at this point 😂
Cause that’s the only way to market her
@@bulbiez no it’s not. Tf!😂
True so on point
It’s bc uabw and uabm in the us refuse to let go of 1 drop. They do this to all mixed ppl who have proximity to blackness.
If tyla is black then Logic is too lol
😂😂😂😂 this comment >>>
😂😂😂
It's not the same thing. Logic has less than 1/4 of Black ancestry, while Tyla has about 2/4. Tyla's physical appearance is similar to Creoles, while Logic will always be perceived as a White man. Comparing Logic and Tyla is like comparing apples to oranges. Tyla is Black, but that's not the only part of her identity.
The First Lady of Nigeria needs to tell her husband to fix the economy. Nigerians are going through so much and it’s really tough out there. She’s also corrupt from what I know, so she needs to pipe down. We don’t like her and we never will because she’s definitely not the beacon of morality. She’s not the right messenger AT ALL.
My dear, she wouldn't hear that one. Also, I have a feeling that man may not survive the whole presidency but that's just a conspiracy of mine
I'm not Nigerian but I find it funny how she's fully covered yet her people still don't like her ass it's ironic as hell
it's just smoke and mirrors. She's just causing trouble. She is doing this for herslef.
I'm from Asia, so I'm just commenting on what the First Lady actually said - Nigerian women should not over sexualize themselves like Hollywood women. That is the topic of discussion.
@@gobyfish1399okay?
If Nicki really is SINGLE, it’s for the best because Kenneth is tarnishing her image.
She tarnished her image herself by being a PREDATOR and a BULLY.
@@SideEyeee_how is Nicki a predator wtf yall just saying shit
@@SideEyeee_how can grown women be bullied by one woman😂😂😂😂😂😂I’m crying
@@miajmosley you don't know about that inappropriate song she made with that teenage boy?
@@emixxixx3001 theyre basically calling other rap girls weak and can’t defend they self’s
So saddened by the passing of Enchanting. So many people had no idea she was actually a singer and could sing. She only started rapping when she signed to Gucci in 2020 ❤ I’d highly recommend checking out her r&b/singing songs as well. Her voice was very beautiful and she made good music
Agreed
I’m so surprised to see you under this video, I literally love your channel! You introduced me so many smaller artists like enchanting with your lyrics videos since I was in middle school.
Enchanting was so underrated and I missed her since she stopped posting on UA-cam. This one really hurt me, she really was a gem.
I saw her one of her videos I’m my recommendations a week ago. I didn’t think anything of it so I scrolled away. Hearing that she passed away is so sad
@@mariamdonzo4330 Thank you so much 🩷 And I’m always watching Chiomas videos 🩷 I just don’t always comment
So sad
Today was a great day! I had my college orientation 😊❤️💛
No way me too 😭
@pickleburgers9208 What school are you going to if you don’t mind me asking?
Congratulations! I miss college days.
@ebonhi7138 Thank you! 🤎🙏🏾
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I humbly approach the Black Diaspora and kindly request us to leave this whole "Tyla's Ethnicity Debate" behind. PLEASE!!! It's getting old, I'm tired 😖😖😖
I totally agree.. who cares what she categories herself as!!
I mean. Let's just hope white people won't start calling black people "colords" again. Because they PUSHED Tyla to fame. People need to understand, that's what its about. It always boils down to these racist evil elites. Always
It's NOT about Tyla. Not to me. She just another sellout, that's all. But they all are.
Honestly she will tell us how she identifies and then there’s more pressing world issues to discuss
Right like who rlly gives af. Ppl need to go to work
The only reason why people keep bringing it up, is b/c the media keeps bringing it up😂 go talk to them. It’s content lol all of this is just content lol
To add my last comment about Tyla. As someone who was born and raised in Nigeria. I beg many people to be open-minded and understand society doesn't revolve around America. Race and culture are very different and distinct in many African countries. I remember a friend of mine was in shock when I told him that in Nigeria we don't regard race we start with the tribe, ethnicity then state, etc. He looked at me like I was mad, and this obsession with centering America can be very dangerous and detrimental to other countries cultures races, and tribes. My closest friend is colored and ppl kept calling her black. I was the only one to ask her, about her race or cast, and from then on I called her colored. Saying Tyla should be black isn't only madness but also erases her culture as a colored person. Please I beg Americans to be more open-minded. I understand the term/distinction colored comes with weight in America, but for months colored South Africans and South Africans as a whole have been gaslighted online.
Well and respectively spoken my sister. People are worried about the wrong things. I like tyla regardless of what she is. People should leave her alone, she's not American and its ok. Geesh!
Only need to correct you on one point. America is the most powerful country in the world! We are the leader and blueprint for "Freedom", the world over! Sometimes when we live in a situation- tend to think it is the norm the world over== it is not! That young lady Nyla would fit right in to our huge family Bar B Q -- no one would pay her any attention saying ' there's a coloured girl"😅.
@@bjwilliamsThat power is diminishing very fast. There are too many countries that are ready to go to war with us. Our currency is losing value everyday. We're trillions in debt and inflation is rising. The US is fine for now but all empires fall.
@@bjwilliams Nobody cares how powerful America is. At the end of the day black Americans need to respect the different cultures and ethnic groups that are part of Africa. America being a powerful country does not mean that you can dictate other ppls identities.
@@bjwilliams Wdym Blueprint of freedom? How? THE only freedom you guys got first was independence every other thing including the end of slavery and gay rights were a copy of what other countries have done.
My point is respect other people's culture and identity. BEING "AMERICAN" doesn't grant you a right to disrespect other cultures and identities.
I’m soooo glad you brought up the ‘One Drop’ rule because we kept that as ours like it’s somehow different from the paper bag test🙃
I swear, I feel like I'm completely lost when it comes to a lot of our peoples logic on those issues. Like why copy, perpetuate and preserve these old school WS mentality and logic in our community? It's sad that a lot of us are creating colorism issues and can't differentiate between black from biracial or multiracial people. Tyla is mostly an Indian woman, end of story.
Oh plz! The one drop rule actually makes sense. If your 1/4 then no you’re not black. Your if you’re 1/2 black, you’re biracial not black. That’s why the one drop rule is still being used. It literally biology lol
@@ashleyt2598 lollll please go watch a documentary or something on what it’s actually about and come back 😂 sis no one is arguing with biology. This is more about the history of ‘passing.’
Firstly, the First Lady of Nigeria should deal with the economy. Secondly Tyla not being black is okay, but forcing her to claim something she isn't is utter madness, and her team now booking her to BET and other black space would backfire. Lastly RIP enchanting.
‘Forcing her to black spaces will backfire’yet that same award show gave Justin beiber an award. 🥴🥴🥴🥴
@@zinhle_dladla I didn’t know that bet sha
She’s still mixed with black??? We have accepted other mixed people into Black spaces. Now it’s a problem just because Tyla knows she’s not fully black and doesn’t claim as such?
I still don't get why people are trying to force 'Black' on Tyla. She's south african 😂 not black american
@@zinhle_dladlaI was thinking the same thing, Iggy Azealea, Jack Harlow were nominated for BET awards, and many other white artists have been included within black spaces
I think the issue with Tyla is her management team. They clearly thought they could market her to Black Americans and then move her into the pop mainstream. They should have positioned her like a 'blue-eyed' musical artist and not position her as the newest black popstar. They're clearly trying to follow the path of rhianna and make her the "afro beats" global popstar. Tyla isn't black and doesn't identify as Black. Her identity isn't a problem in other parts of the world but if they're trying to blow her up in the states then they should have done their homework.
As a fellow 1st gen Nigerian American, I think you hit the nail on the head when describing our experience. It’s a very specific experience of living as a Black person outside of the home and as an African inside the home. People don’t understand that we have to constantly try to find some type of internal bicultural identity even though we sometimes still experience a culture shock from both sides. It’s something that neither our Nigerian/African nor the diaspora understand. Our experience is very unique. As for the Nigerian First Lady, she has a lot more she needs to be worrying about other that people overseas. The Nigerian people are literally starving and suffering from extreme poverty and she’s putting her foolish mouth in Oyibo business. Onye nzuzu.
As a AA I was in so many comment sections tryna explain to other AAs why this girl is not black & they really called me a 🦝 😭
I said nara wasn't black and some people disagreed. Until she calls herself a black woman she's mixed to me. Nothing wrong with that.
@@brownbabecc Nara has a whole white dad she's mixed..I don't know why we claim mixed people.
I swear to God some of our people are stuck on stupid when it comes to biracial and multiracial people. The one drop rule is a dumb rule created by WS centuries ago to dehumanize biracial and multiracial people and associate them more with our people even though genetically speaking, they're different from us. If people want to call Tyla black even though she is mostly Indian, then the rapper Logic is what a black guy looks like if we're going based off of the one drop rule and not genetics.
City Girls made club bangers, NOT revolutionary hits.
it was revolutionary for me lol
A British girlie here and we don’t care. Especially if we’re living in the US. Our category is not on their census so we have accepted that race is categorized differently in each country.
You’re black in America. Ppl who are in power will say you’re black. They don’t care where you’re from when you’re here
I agree my British sister 😂
As a fellow Brit, I agree
JT has ALWAYS been the better rapper out of the duo. On the other hand, Yung Miami has been known for her sex appeal when it comes to the City Girls branding as a whole.
Ok cheekbones
Righttt? Pure natural beauty 😍
Tyla never claimed to be black until some people decided to make her a black woman , she has always said she was a colored South African because she is not black, everyone else understood except BA’s and I wonder why.
Cause if you are black and from American, a lot have this dumb habit of following the one drop rule which is a ridiculous thing that was made up by WS to separate biracials and multiracials from themselves and associate them more towards black people.
But we heard her say she is a black woman on a response post so....
@@db4449 yes after the intense pressure from you lot. She has always maintained her stance concerning her Race.
Literally.
Ok.....and i dont care for blueface either. But even he realized she does the most; he told her to stop drinking and clubbing while she was pregnant, that she needed to sit down when he was born. They do say a broken clock is correct twice a day. Thats VERY good advice and he did show genuine concern for his child and she wasnt tryna hear it. She just wanted bragging rights and to compete with jaidyn. I mean drinking bottles her ENTIRE PREGNANCY
Yea I remember him being upset she was only clubbing while pregnant. Say what yall want about Jay but she's a better BM than rock.
@@shakeeranoel4320 Who.....said anything about jaidyn? And that's not true either he got on her more than once about drinking and clubbing while she was pregnant. Regardless of how anyone feels about him he was absolutely right....I'm not sure why you trying to turn this into a back and forth because there's no argument to be had 😒
@@Leoprincess3038 umm u mention Jay in your first comment 😅 and i was agreeing with u what the problem 🫠
@@Leoprincess3038lol girl you did
@@Leoprincess3038I don’t think you comprehended a word that comment said. No one was trying to argue 😂
The part that made me think it was a jab towards Black Americans was the comment of “they don’t even know where they come from” which I feel is commonly used as an insult to us not knowing our ancestry because of the slave trade.
Tyla definitely racially ambiguous
Yes, she’s multiracial.
I'm genuinely confused if that women even has prominent black ancestry , I believe she dos have afrucan ancestry but her south Asian is more stronger to me but she shouldn't be considered blk she's mixed/colored
She’s coloured in South Africa guys it’s not that deep
@@Sisa.N
“Racially Ambiguous”means multi racial. Which is what y’all call coloured. This commenter didn’t say anything wrong. You’re making her comment into something that it’s not.
“Coloured” in her home country, “mixed” in the US. I think it’s simple too
Lawd as a Haitian American I’m tired of these diaspora wars and I was raised primarily in the Haitian culture and learned my family’s language first before English and being immersed into American culture as a teenager.
Traveling to my family’s motherland is when I saw actual white Haitians that spoke the language fluently and were born there. So I’ve seen both sides of the ignorance for many cultures and ethnicities living in the U.S. who don’t necessarily identify with black culture.
I personally love both cultures. You made a great point about Tyla and her statement was spot on. I’m glad she shut down the question because the moment she would have said she is a colored woman based on the country she’s from, it would have been an uproar. People need to stop forcing blackness on others especially when Tyla is multiracial. Broaden your horizons!
Nicki just knows how to stir up the pot with one tweet.
She sure do girl u know she dont be single for long she married she can't just get up and go
Yep and around the time prior her barbs were accused of leaking the video of Meagan…. She successfully diverted the attention
I read your name as Megan's Law 😂
@@jasminejames127 😭😭😭😭
She needs attention to sell music. Her fans are crazy, but not rich or powerful enough compared to Beyonce's beehives.
Tyla “not being black” isn’t that deep. Every country/society has their own casting system 😮. In Haiti for example, everyone is black. As long as you’re born there you. Are. Black. I don’t think it’s a self hate thing.
Exactly 💯
Same thing in Nigeria, but race isn't something that is constant thought about
Do you have mixed people in Haiti
@@Xvz2 yes. All kinds. Cause during the revolution there was a lot of polish that were welcome to stay. Probably other European natives as well. But was to equalize everyone. It’s in the constitution
To me tyla sounds more indian then african.
Please let go of the one drop mindset y’all, mixed comes in all shades.
How was it not directed to black Americans yet in the next breath she said “they do not know where they come from”
The problem I have is not that they like to call out the American culture that they so often mimic, its the unnecessary comments on us not knowing where we come from, as if we had a say so in being sold or taken from the motherland. Its super offensive that us becoming enslaved is used as a shot at us. You see it everywhere , they want to call us dumb for not knowing geography but when we prove they dont either they say ohh you dont know where you come from as if its a one up and its rude and insensitive... I think thats the point that everyone is missing ..
Right!
UK girlies stay out of the diaspora war because we are heavily involved in our roots. Everyone has a grandparent/parents from an island or Africa.
💯
Right
The Nigerian First Lady should focus more about why Nigeria’s economy is shit and how to fix it. And why most of Nigerians don’t have jobs.
How about how you also fix your own communities instead of talking shit about another.
@@tyaler9805 I’m Nigerian lmao
And why they're so arrogant
@@Jennyxx-ie5jw Can ask the same about your people.
Tyla isn’t Black, but how she identifies should be respected. Her management company sees her streams going down, and her album falling off the chart, and they are in a panic. That’s why she’s now claiming she’s “Black” a mess.
I keep saying this. Okay, she’s coloured. If some AAs take offense to that word, then call the girl mixed and keep moving. She is not black. End of story. And it’s so interesting because when it comes to North Africans, they aren’t black. But not when it applies to Tyla. And people say because she has curly hair or her sister has type four hair ??? Okay Cardi’s sister has the same texture hair as me and the argument is “that’s HER SISTER, NOT HER”, but that doesn’t apply to Tyla? A lot of south Asians are darker than me and have curly hair. Does that mean they’re black? Like it doesn’t make sense to me. And people say “well in America!” America what? To who? Whites? Because Tyla doesn’t even look black. Like what is wrong with letting mixed people be mixed. Let Zendaya be mixed let latto be mixed plz 😣😭
How is she not black?
Its so unfortunate that she has been bullied to constantly explain and now claim something she isnt. In Africa, especially in the southern part she is coloured and not black and that should be okay. Just because a lot of her supporters are AAs doesnt mean she has to be black
How she was identifies ≠ FACTS
@@KirstyM02It’s not bullying, calm down.
54:11 I also wanted to mention that I noticed Creole people like to be called black even though they are mixed. An AA told me it was because the culture is black. So I was just all the way confused at that point. Bc wtf? That’s why they’re forcing Tyla to claim black bc of how she looks. America is NOT the world wide standard. That ish is so annoying. Go to other countries and LEARN something!!!
America isn’t the world but Tyla is promoting herself in America
When in Rome do as the Roman’s if she wants to promote herself here then she needs to respect our culture
Same way if a Aa person was in South African they wouldn’t be black.
Yall always want to talk about how America isn’t the world but yet yall come into American spaces and don’t respect us and our culture
@@kennyb1588what culture does America has??. And the problem with y’all African Americans y’all be wanting everyone to be black, especially mixed people. The moment a mixed person don’t claim being black y’all boo boo cry. Let mixed people be mixed
@@kennyb1588I agree to a degree especially bc these feeds into the diaspora war bs but I also want to respect others identity plus that women is genuinely not black she's very racially ambiguous and mixed which is what the colored term in sa covers (ik it has more specific details and qualifications ) , but I very much do agree its kinda weird to be suprised aa are calling you blk while you engaging with aa media and American music awards 😂 ik it's not right but it's also goofy not to expect it.
@@kennyb1588
Exactly just like how whenever we have a blvck history or Juneteenth event non-fba inserts themselves into it. Claiming that the holiday isn’t just for us it’s for ALL blvck people worldwide.
There is also this UA-camr by the name of Julian and he said when he first visited SA they said he was colored not blvck and he didn’t care he just rolled with it but when the roles are reversed they get mad when we say what THEY are in OUR COUNTRY. They just be picking and choosing.🙄
Don’t come to America
People claim culture before they claim complexion. There are a lot of Brazilian models for VS, despite her complexion, I haven't heard anyone say I am a black or white Brazilian, she us just Brazilian. We should stop being offended because some brown people will not say they are black.
I think nicki trolling. She been posting pics with her and her husband together. But if shes divorcing him, i hope theres a prenup. I heard a long time ago that she didnt make him sign a prenup😬 if this is true then that will be a mess. Theres no way that man getting half of my money. Period
Messy indeed. Look what happened to Mary J. Bridge and Halle Berry
@eyesofwater123 yes and especially since that guy is a former ex con and she been buying his clothes and jewelry. Personally I would of not been dating or getting married to him especially since I have a high status like Nicki. But hey if I did decide to marry him trust and believe a prenup will be involved 💀💀💀
@eyesofwater123 And Kelly Clarkson and Brandon Blackstock. And Kevin Costner and Christine Baumgartner are another example of contentious divorce battles and greed.
She's dropping a song
Was there ever proof of a marriage certificate?!
I don’t think the First Lady of Nigeria was wrong at all for what she said. I actually wish we had somebody over here telling us the same thing. As far as not packaging it pretty, that’s a problem we have over here, not speaking freely because of fear of scrutiny , she spoke her mind without being scared of getting cancelled which people over here do way too often.
Then as far as her saying Americans come over here looking for Africa, I think she means how “Black Americans” hold on to this story of being from Africa when in reality we are simply Americans. Born on this land and have lived here for generations. We have no ties to Africa and it’s honestly ridiculous for our ppl to be trying to associate themselves with Africa so hard when for your last 10+ generations you have been in America and that’s all you know, even people in Africa know this yet Black Americans stay trying to associate themselves with a country that does not even accept them and knows you are not one of them.
Artists aren’t giving us their absolute best anymore. Even in old Hollywood artists were trained for YEARS on how to BE a long lasting star before ever being introduced to the public. They learned how to sing and dance AND act, today labels don’t help artists. They find artists at their peak and the artist milk them for all they can, make them sink or swim, then they abandon them as soon as the public moves on. It’s quite sad.
I was one who thought the Tyla race convo was tired or unnecessary but I do sort of see where black Americans are coming from. Since it is not like she is solely trying to appeal to the African culture, she makes music with black Americans and is promoting her music on black American radio so there is some cultural assimilation that is required. You want black dollars, well apart of that is having conversations about how you identify. And I think her statement should just be that anytime she is asked. Because, although race might not be the biggest topic in other countries she is promoting herself in America and race is a big topic within the black community. I think her statement was to the point and appropriate. It’s not like she has a problem with identifying as black or else we would see her get defensive about it, I just think it is something she is also learning about herself as she works through American entertainment and that we as black people should extend her grace.
Well said
I totally agree.. I don't think blk Americans want her to be blk.. Blk Americans are tired of these non blks cosplaying Blk to get blk dollars then end up being something else..
Thank you! Omg all of this! She is in BLACK AMERICAN spaces so yes she does have to answer because she’s a visitor here
I don't see where African Americans have a point in this conversation. Cardi B and many Latino artists within hip-hop or R&B spaces are heavily promoted to Black people, yet there's no issue revolving around them not being Black or not identifying as such (especially when they often choose to portray negative aspects of Black American culture). The vitriol and hate Tyla is receiving is unjust because she's first and foremost existing as an African artist and African artists been receiving some form of heat lately from a minority of chronically online Black people.
She is cos playing as a bw
1:01:07 I’m Yoruba & live in a Hispanic community & the Walgreens has lots of bleaching soaps/creams/lotions too 🤦🏾♀️
To me I thought Tyla is Asian( Indian)
Her dad is Indian
Same
😂😂😂
Wait until people find out that Indian people are a Mixed people that actually descend from a African group...
She isn’t Indian. She’s mixed and so are her parents.
Chioma I can see you becoming a reporter or something like on E! Or BET! Keep going!!!!
City Girls been fell off; I remember when they first came out in the seventh grade and most of my female classmates would listen to their music. City Girls haven’t been as popular as they used to be, so I’m not surprised to learn that their last album didn’t do well commercially and didn’t receive the best reviews (RAW generated mainly mixed reviews). I feel like in the past three years, City Girls lost their magic.
I agree. In middle/high/even early college they were IT. They let the group die down
I didn’t even know about their album and im a fan of them 😢 I look at the singles and haven’t heard but one of the tracks on the radio
It does come from BOTH sides. The Diaspora war is foolishness because they hate all of us regardless of nationality🤦🏾♀️
A whole hour, chile yesssssssssss👏🏽
I'm not into makeup but i appreciate how your makeup enhances your beauty. 🙌🏾😍
I understand what you’re saying about the culture comment. I’m a black American living in Japan married to a Japanese husband. We have a daughter and she’s raised in Japan but I want to raise her with the black American heritage in mind.
Chioma, I appreciate you continuing to speak on the diaspora and our connectivity. I do believe you understand the duality as you mentioned. I personally never understood diaspora wars. We are all one people, just with different ethnic backgrounds. We grew up together and experienced each other’s culture and I’m tired of the negative connotation around our relationships. I have been blessed to experience Caribbean, Latin, and African culture as a black American through my friend who are of different ethnic backgrounds. We have shared our culture and understood and given grace where there may be gaps. With that, at the end of the day, we all acknowledge we are one people. Black is beautiful in every shape and form, and I wish we talked more about the beautiful relationship we have cultivated across the diaspora even with us being separated, instead of stupid little stuff.
LMAO tyla turning around to have her team answer for her. smart girl, i love a smart girl! (and a smart team) some people could have lost their career in that moment. also her ig response was really thoughtful
I absolutely love your natural face 😩😍😍😍 Chioma you’re so real and raw for starting the vid like that🫶🏼 you’re beautiful
I love seeing your face !!! ❤
Let's not victimize these female rappers. Nor should you perpetuate the stereotype of the aggressive black woman. These women INTENTIONALLY disrespect Nicki. Also, industry friendships are not actual relationships. These people are colleagues at most, not friends.
Thankyou for this upload Chioma ❤
With all seriousness, you look so beautiful with no makeup
Tyla is not black, no South African would call her black, she doesn’t have the experiences of black South Africans! She talks and carries herself as a coloured South African girl and she’s extremely proud of the country she comes from! Coloured people have they’re own culture in South Africa and its important to
them, so people should stop bullying her and allow her to stay true to herself!
There's a part to this First Lady discussion that ties in with the Africans in diaspora conversation that I don't see get spoken about.
1. She's lying. Her culture "Yoruba" is very conservative in their dressing but that's not the same for other tribes. I am Igbo and culturally I am supposed to be topless till I marry.
2. A lot of Nigerians in the diaspora are like the president's wife. Wealthy, Rich, Elitist and Classist. There's a reason why it's almost impossible to hear an argument between Nigerians without hearing "Do you know who I am?" These elitist and Classist individuals and their offspring make up the majority of Nigerians in Diaspora. That's why they behave the way they do.
3. Take that elitism/Classism, add the layer of conservation because of religious reasons then mix in the pride of the average Nigerian then you get what Mrs Tinubu spewed on that stage. It's sad.
I would appreciate if this comment was pinned. 🤗
8.Tyla
I will warn you beforehand that I'm going to write a whole essay about this topic. If I was a UA-camr, I would have probably made my own video.
BEFORE WE START :
Not all Black Americans or Americans are ignorant and uneducated. However they are some who are, so this is not an attack on all Americans or Black Americans. I believe it's not fair to generalize any group of people.
This is for educational purposes only. It is not meant to be hateful towards anyone.
HISTORY OF THE COLOURED IDENTITY:
Coloured refers to a racial and ethnic group in southern africa that consists of multiracial people who have been mixed over multiple generations.
Their mixtures include African, European and Asian. The Coloured identity is recognized in South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Zambia and Botswana. South Africa has the highest population of coloured people: just above 5 million as of 2022.
For context I will explain the other racial groups and ethnic groups in South Africa.
Firstly is the Khoisan who are the indigenous people of Southern Africa. It is a collective term used to refer to two separate groups: the San and the Khoi Khoi. The San were hunter gatherers and Khoi Khoi were herders.
Secondly there is the Bantu People. They originate from West-Central Africa and migrated down to Southern Africa. Each Bantu Tribe has its own traditions, language and culture.
There is Xhosa, Zulu, Basotho, Venda, Ndebele, Twsana, Tsonga, Swazi and Pedi.
Thirdly we have Indian South Africans. During the 1800s, Britain colonized South Africa. The Indians were labourers transported from British India to work on the sugar plantations in KwaZulu-Natal. This is from 1860 onwards.
Lastly, the white people of South Africa who are predominantly descendants of Dutch, German, French Huguenot, English, Portuguese and other European settlers.
In 1652 the Dutch arrived in the cape and later on produced the Cape Colony. Over time the Khoisan, the Bantu people, Indian people, European settlers and other South Asian slaves brought with the Dutch (Malaysia, Indonesia, etc) began mixing. Some of it was consensual and some of it was not.
Coloured people were already a group even before apartheid was introduced, they just had others names and was not recognized in the government. But culturally they were considered a separate group. While the Dutch was still in power, they referred to the mixed race offspring as Kleurlinge.
Apartheid was a racial segregation that perpetuated that non-white people had to live in separate areas and use separate facilities from one another.
There was white, native(black) and then coloured.
Indian, Coloured and Khoisan people were classified under Coloured as they did not fit into the requirements to be classified as black or white. When apartheid ended Indian people were given their own racial category, whereas the Khoisan and coloured people remained within the same racial category.
Although all people of colour were oppressed during apartheid, there is a difference between the way that coloured people and black people were treated during apartheid. Coloured people did not have to carry a passbook and had slightly better education than black people.
There is racism present in SOME coloured people towards black people. However, I find that it mostly occurs within in the older generations that grew up during apartheid.
Therefore a Coloured person calling themselves black can be seen as offensive to Black South Africans as they did not and still do not share the same experiences, then and now.
Coloured genetics can be differ from person to person and place to place.
We have different subgroups in South Africa. Some are official, some are not. However I cannot speak on any other country.
Note: Not every coloured within that province has that specific genetic ancestry but it is the most common.
Cape Coloured:
Present in the Western Cape. Mixed with European settlers, Khoisan, Xhosa and slaves from South Asia.
Cape Malay:
Present in the Western Cape. Predominantly descendants of Muslim Malaysian and Indonesian slaves mixed with Arabs, Europeans, Indians and africans
Northern Cape Coloureds:
Mixed with European and Khoisan similar to Namibian Coloureds.
They have their own subgroups as well such as Griqua, Bosluis and Rehoboth Basters, etc.
KwaZulu Natal and Gauteng Coloureds:
Mixed with British, Irish, German, Mauritian, Saint Helenian, Indian, Xhosa and Zulu.
Eastern Cape Coloureds:
Mixed with British, Xhosa and Irish
Free State Coloureds
Mixed with Basotho, San and Dutch.
I unfortunately don't know much about the coloured genetics of the other three provinces in South Africa.
Coloured people are very diverse. They can look like any race.
We come in all skin colours, hair textures, eye and hair colours and phenotypes.
Coloureds have their own culture which includes slang, food, names and traditions.
Coloured culture is a mixture of other cultures. For instance: They have alot of Asian influence in their cusuines. Some also speak Afrikaans like White South Africans. However White Afrikaans and Coloured Afrikaans is not the same.
There is alot that I left out and this explanation only scratches at the surface of the Coloured identity. It's the most basic explanation I can give about coloured history.
HISTORY OF TYLA CONTROVERSY:
The controversy initially began last year when a tiktok Tyla made resurfaced onto Twitter. This tiktok was made 3-4 years prior to Water blowing up.
In the tiktok she said:
"Hi. I'm Tyla. I'm a Coloured South African. It means I come from many different cultures."
Then Twitter did what Twitter does.
Get offended over nothing🙄.
Tyla then had an interview with Hollywood Zay back in March 2024.
She said," In South Africa, my race is called coloured, which is a very stressful term to use in America because it's a derogatory term. But I mean that is what we are called in South Africa."
In April 2024, Tyla had a Cosmopolitan interview where she again addressed her race.
She said," I'm happy there's conversation happening and that people are learning that Africa is more than just black and white. Obviously, it gets messy and no one likes that but I'm just happy people know we exist and have our own culture.
When people are like,' You're denying your Blackness,' it's not that at all. I never said I am not Black. It's just that I grew up as a South African knowing myself as Coloured. And now that I'm exposed to more things it has made me other things too. I'm also mixed race. I'm also black. I know people like finding a definition for things, but it's 'and' not 'or'. As young people we have a platform where we can speak about things like this, things that are new and controversial and scary. It's a perfect time for this conversation to happen."
Recently Tyla was on the Breakfast Club and her team told them that some questions should not be asked including her race. However Charlamagne went and asked them anyway, hence Tyla and her team's reaction.
Tyla never said anything offensive and has explained herself on three different occasions but continues to receive backlash.
The bad press was caused by Twitter outrage and tabloids with misleading titles such as "Tyla says she's not black", etc.
THE CRITIQUE OF TYLA PANDERING TO A BLACK AMERICAN AUDIENCE:
I wholly disagree with this statement.
Here are more specific critiques.
Critique: "Tyla only markets herself to Black Americans."
On Tyla's music channel, there are shorts where she has been performing in Africa. She was also an opening act for Chris Brown's Under the influence European tour. She also performed on the Bianca show which is also in Europe. Then when Water blew up, she came and performed in the US.
Tyla had a meet and greet in the UK and a meet and greet in South Africa, Johannesburg.
Tyla is aiming for International stardom. She said herself she wants to become the biggest popstar ever.
Tyla is also inspired by alot of Black American artists especially artists from the 90s and 2000s.
In her interview with Hollywood Zay she said this," I feel like Hip Hop and RnB is a big part of my culture back home as well. (Because, I mean, in South Africa, my race is called coloured, which is a very stressful term to use in America because it's a derogatory term. But I mean that is what we are called in South Africa.) A huge part of our culture is HipHop and RnB. I grew up around it. I mean my parents, that was our wake up call, RnB and HipHop would blast in the house."
Critique:" Tyla appropriates black hairstyles."
In South Africa both coloured and black people wear afros, braids, cornrows, etc. Because alot of coloured people also have textured hair.
I do understand that cultural appropriation is a big issue in the US so I understand why some would be weary. But I believe that cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation are often confused.
But cultural appropriation is not as common in South Africa from what I've seen.
Tyla as a person screams South African and screams coloured. Her accent, her mannerisms, her verbiage, her music and her dancing.
Tyla is an African woman because she was born and raised in South Africa.
Africa is a continent, not a race.
THE HYPOCRISY OF
➡️SOME⬅️BLACK AMERICANS:
I do understand that the term 'colored' is a derogatory term used in the Jim Crow era but that doesn't mean Tyla is wrong for calling herself "coloured".
This what we call homophones: words that sound the same but have different spelling and different meanings.
If Tyla went around calling Black Americans 'colored', then I would understand why people are upset
But Tyla used the word in an entirely different context.
@michaelawilliams6127
The n word was an offensive and derogatory word used around the globe towards black people. However when Black Americans decided to use it as apart of their culture, everyone respected it.
That's the same thing with the word coloured. Although it is considered derogatory in some countries, Coloured people in Southern Africa decided to use that word in a positive connotation and it should also be respected.
There were SOME Black Americans who said that because Tyla was coloured or didn't identify as black, they would not support her. Not supporting someone or hating someone because of their race is RACIST.
On top of that some people said that Tyla should GO BACK TO HER COUNTRY if she wants to be coloured. Obviously this statement is XENOPHOBIC.
The one drop rule is unique to the US. In Africa mixed people are not classified as black. SOME Black Americans want to claim mixed people as black but get mad when they take black opportunities and become the representation for black people.
Mixed also doesn't just refer to white and black mixes. For biracials it can be Indian and white, Asian and Black, Asian and White, Indian and Black, Black and Arab, Indian and Arab, Etc.
For multiracial people it can be any sort of mixture.
Mixed people should be allowed to have their own spaces. Because mixed people have different experiences compared to monoracial people. Saying someone is coloured/mixed/biracial/multiracial is not to diminish black people or say that they are better than them. It simply acknowledges every race the person is mixed with.
It's not fair to recognize one part of yourself and deny the other parts.
CLOSING THOUGHTS:
As a Coloured person myself, I'm very passionate about this topic. Coloured people are underrepresented. There are alot of negative stereotypes associated with us and alot of issues in our community.
I think Tyla is a positive example for our race and I'm extremely proud of her. It was very disheartening to see the hate that she was receiving simply for being her race.
If you read this movie long explanation. Thank you so much and you are deeply appreciated.❤️😊
@@michaelawilliams6127👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
This was very insightful and interesting to learn. I'm a Nigerian that grew up in the UK, Ghana and Nigeria. I always knew South Africa was a melting pot of sorts and that there are more than just white South Americans and black South Americans, but learning these details was fascinating.
To be honest, I've always found the push for any person with even a drop of black heritage to identify as black somewhat distasteful. Doing so limits multiracial people from fully exploring their identity and I feel like the push originates from a place of desperation. I could be wrong, but that's a topic for another day.
Thank you for the hour long upload 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I used to work with a nurse who was Nigerian. She used to say offensive things about black Americans ALL THE TIME.
Another nurse decided to report her.
Unfortunately, this type of behavior is COMMON.
That's sad we experience racism from those who look like us as well.
My friend worked with a Nigerian woman like this. She would say offensive things all the times. She didn’t stop until she got written up. They think they’re better but wouldn’t be here if Black Americans didn’t make away.
My friend worked with a Nigerian woman like this. She would say offensive things all the times. She didn’t stop until she got written up. They think they’re better but wouldn’t be here if Black Americans didn’t make away.
@@marriejames01not they, some & also the age is very important. A lot of older Africans grew up completely different from today. And the culture shock is another thing. Doesn’t make it ok & it’s unfortunate you had to deal with that but please refrain from using the word “they” because me as a African does not hate anyone & I love my black American friends. Even chioma stated she does not think that way so saying “they” is what fuels these diaspora wars. That’s like saying all black Americans are ignorant because you met one ignorant one, even though ignorance comes in all shades but we do have to do better with how we talk about & to each other on both sides. It’s 2024.
Not all Nigerians are like this don’t classify a country with 200+ million ppl there are Nigerians who actually love black Americans. There are many black American ppl and celebrities who come to Nigeria and ppl don’t even notice they are black Americans becuase we are all black. I’m sorry about your experience but to generalize I won’t take that. When it comes to pain it’s on both sides. When I went to school a lot of black Americans called me Ebola and didn’t want to be friends with me. Moral of the story everyone needs to heal and move on.
Time and time again someone will claim they're not black but use black culture and brand themselves as black people just like Beyonce for example
Genuine question, why do you feel like Beyoncé does this?
When did Beyoncé ever claim to not be black? When she’s clearly black as well.
How is Beyonce not black?
I completely agree with you on the Tyla situation. I am a black woman in American and for most of my life people have lead with this one drop rule and it annoys me. When I saw Tyla I saw a mixed raced woman and when she stated she was colored and explained the first time what that meant in South Africa it made sense. I feel as if black people need to stop basing race off of what we were born into and see it for what it is. I pray people stop bothering her about this topic she already addressed.
Yes this angle is great!! ❤️
Don’t one drop me and then pull/ pander to my culture at the same time. Especially if you’re marketing to black Americans in america
This view is much better! 🙌🏽 ❤
Love This Angle Queen Chioma I’ve Been Watchin You About 6 Years
Been A Consistent Fan
Keep Going And Rich Auntie Is Really A Banger
Keep Going Your Commentary Has An Effect
I’ve Even Used Your Videos And Played Them At Get Togethers For Talking Points
Your Amazing And I’ve Been Here For The Progress
Keep Going Queen Chioma
A Strong Voice For The Community
Aww omg thanks for watching me all these years 🥹🩷 I appreciate the support and sticking through it all! More to come!
Love the on camera videos queen 💋💋💋
I absolutely LOVE you content and commentary.
I love get ready with me’s! What a treat.
Hi Chioma I really loved how you handled the D9 conversation. My family, parents, friends are in all of that. I AM NOT, but many people in my life have accused my family of "following the devil" or "buying their friends" etc. It used to hurt me a lot because it is so ignorant to say. We went to church every Sunday growing up, participate in church events etc. I always try to tell people the foundation of D9 was never what it is now. It is used to do work in our community with brown and Black folks when (back in the day) when white people could care less (and more). Just like how the Black Muslims are in Philly (another tangent). Anyway thank you for being neutral and not being quick to point fingers and be ignorant. It actually made me enjoy your content way more. :D Keep being open minded girl!
I just never gave chrisean any grace when she became pregnant because she is choosing the difficult route every time for entertainment and a dollar. And the people who cheered it on need to get help
A hour long video?🥰yesss the queen is feeding us lol this will get me through the rest of my work shift
Listen to this while cleaning, love the longer content.
😍😍😍 in love with or without the makeup - so beautiful *goes to listen*
Thoughts on the comments about Tyla’s identity and the Diaspora: We have to drop the one drop rule thing. Being mixed isn’t a slur. Colored in South African is its own thing. We have to understand that things work differently in other countries. Unambiguous black women are not “hating”. Black Americans are not all uneducated about Apartheid. Many of us are interested in learning about different countries and customs. We do indeed travel (however it is a privilege not afforded to all). Chill on the elitism and kindly educate people instead of degrading and feeding in to Diaspora wars. Dividing us makes no sense what so ever. Black happens to be a race and Ethnicity for America’s. Americans are not “race obsessed” the world collectively has a history of treating brown people poorly.
This is part of the problem - the way we identify “Blackness” is a whole mess!! So you get this type of confusion. Monoracial should be just that. Mixed race should be just that. Ethnicity should be just that. Like… it could all be so simple but we can’t do that.
Hey Chioma 💕 enjoyed this!
My thing with the Tyla situation is that if you are trying to break over into America you need to learn a little bit about who you are trying to reach. Anyone with a smidge knowledge wouldn’t go in front of a largely American audience claiming to be colored due to the history in this country.
Is an American person. The whole entire world does not revolve around America.
Also her song water is literally African and she went viral for it
I understand that point, but then what should she identify as? She can't say she's mixed because she's not...If she were to lie and say she was black she would be exposed and it would be terrible. Maybe she shouldn't have spoken about it at all🤷🏽♀️
I feel like those lashes don't do your big pretty eyes justice
Chioma!!!
1. You’re so pretty without make up
2. Girl what mascara did you use it made your eyes pop I love it
3. I would like to see you with a little bit of blush 🤔. I love how natural you do your make up & how you still look like yourself but I also do think a little blush will go a long way!
Great take on the diaspora and yes you are multicultural and I love it. Blk people sometimes forget they are Americans as well as white people.
blueface know he ain’t shii for saying that bout that baby 🤣
I feel like it don’t matter how you say certain stuff anymore, someone’s always gonna melt 😂
i loved this video girl! so nice to listen to while cooking
Oooooohh imma use that! Bi-cultural, I feel the same way being British-Jamaican, I'm a mixture of two distinct very opposite cultures. I relate more to my Jamaican side
Same I’m British Ghanaian and I completely agree with you l, relate more to my Ghanaian side however there’s still aspects about my life that are being from London/British born. I think us black UK folk aren’t really involved in the diaspora wars because we have a completely diff mindset that is somewhat more diverse than other black people across the diaspora in terms of engaging with different identities within and externally
Damn I’m early early
LIKED the video as soon as I clicked on
baby you got asambe right on the first try lmaooo.
to add, South Africa is a very racialized country similarly to the US because of colonization followed by the Apartheid regime which only ended in the 90s. A very simplified explanation of the Coloured identity is deep-rooted multi-generation race-mixing with its roots in the 1600s when the Dutch first settled in South Africa. Being biracial doesn't make you coloured because there is a cultural significance as well as the aforementioned multi-generational race-mixing. Most Coloured people I know don't have a living monoracial ancester because their existence as Coloured has been established for many generations. I think African Americans' obsession with Tyla identifying as black has to do with her desirable racial ambiguity more than the controversy of the word Coloured. And her rejecting that label because it isn't who she is might infuriate someone because now their understanding of what Africans can look like is challenged. They have all this smoke for Tyla saying she's marketing herself as a black artist (???) by stealing AAs flow even though she makes an African style of music but they don't mind Ayra Star dabbling in an Afro-RnB space because there's no validation in that. Ayra is unambigously black, unlike Tyla.
ur gorgeous with makeup, but its my first time seeing you with a bare face and you are also really pretty without it too! :)
I kno - it was nice to see - no preference - just nice to see and her skin is glowing
Girl this chewing gum is good u got me doing my makeup too 😂😂
Yung Miami isn’t a rapper, I view her as a social media influencer.
Okay, and? Doesn’t change the fact that she’s a rapper no matter what you think.
@SideEyeee_ We’re all entitled to our own opinions.
@@niabelizaire3596 It’s not an opinion. Yung Mami a rapper.
"ASAMBE" is a zulu word which means "Let's go"
1 This is my 2nd time watching one of your videos and I love how tapped in you are with the ladies of rap. You have really nuanced and insightful takes.
2 Thank you for speaking up on the rift between Continental Africans and African Americans. I feel more or less the same as you do being raised in the US withy dad and that side of my family being from Congo-Brazza. There's definitely slander being thrown on both sides. I felt like back in the day I noticed more shade coming from the American side but lately it feels that flow of shade has reversed. It shows how anti-blackness has unfortunately spread throughout the black diaspora.
Okay you’re cooking with the music girl yessss
"asambe" directly translates to let's go from the isizulu language. As much as it translates to let's go. We often use it out of context; just for the fun of it.
I'm a South African and this Tyla situation is starting to annoying me, that girl is a coloured lady here, and black lady there. Simple. Let's put it to bed.
Love the commentary about Tyla. Race is a social construct that is seen differently around the world. But I do understand the sensibility that Black Americans have toward it. Their whole identity is defined by it. So are we, the Caribbeans but to a lesser extent.And as black immigrants or 2nd generation, we also experience it. I am from Haitian descent so being black is integrated in our culture. But since 90% of us are black on the island, the discrimination is linked more to colorism. But racism is still present, especially with our Dominicans neighbors.
So when African Americans see people of mixed race not affirming their blackness but biting and profiting from their culture, they will feel some type of way, as they should. I am not saying it is the case of Tyla but we know way too many celibrities that play that card too.
Another example, the latinx culture, the big names of reggaeton are not even Latinx from black descent when reggaeton in itself started from Afro Panamians and Afro Puerto Ricans.
So I have to disagree she said “they don’t even know where they come from” so I think she was referring to black Americans !
Where was this said? Or was it repeated enough for you to believe she said it because it fits your narrative?
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What setting powder are you using under your eyes? Thank you for listing products. I love your commentary, you’re always insightful and straightforward. ❤
The Nigerian First Lady directly mentioned black (indigenous) Americans. She said we don’t know where we come from but they know where they come from. If I misunderstood her, correct me respectfully.
What?
@@tyaler9805what? Did you not understand what I said?
You can talk and do your makeup? Talented. I have to do one or the other! 😂😂💄
loved it chime!
Braids are definetely for you, so gorgeous 😍 great content as usual
Enchanting's death is just crazy but the disrespect online regarding it is wild 😑