The Surui tribe in Brazil have genes of Austronesian/Australian/Papuan descent, so it appears that this indeed happened, although probably nobody went home to tell anyone.
@@martychisnall Not really. Just because two places are near each other doesn't guarantee contact and colonization of the land. For example, human beings originated in Africa, but it took us say 100k years just to discover Madagascar - and its first colonists were from Austronesia, not Africa (although Africa did help to populate it too). Plus, the vast majority of Amerind groups are believed to have crossed from Siberia, and a long, long time before the Tu'i Tonga colonization period. And even still, the population of the Americas then was very high - way too high even in the larger Andean kingdoms to be colonized all that easily. The Surui and co. likely came in around the same time people reached Australia, I think.
The winds also give credibility to the Polynesians for another reason. We know that when exploring, they would often sail against the prevailing winds. That way, if they found nothing, they could turn around and zip right back home
Not only were the Polynesians relying on the winds but also the Pacific Current, which runs clockwise then North to South along the coast of both North and South America and then westward
You missed something very important with the Polynesians: their voyages of discovery sailed *into* the wind. This was so that the return voyages would be faster, in case they ran short of food and water, or their ships were damaged by storms.
Very stupid to start a voyage INTO THE WIND in a machine that depends on wind. What about if they dont get to the place???, They will starve, you idiot.. Im a navigation instructor as pilot instructor. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Have you ever sail a boat??? Sooo stupid to post that..
One thing not mentioned here is that there is some genetic evidence of intermixing between native american and some Polynesian populations. I would say it is 99% likely it happened.
@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC I didn't know you could get so important a job, despite failing kindergarten-level English. The Polynesians rowed as well as used the sails, so it wasn't entirely dependent on wind. And it would be better to just not get there, and turn around with the wind pushing you back home. I also find it funny that you brought up that you are a pilot instructor(which I thoroughly doubt), as if that matters considering he's talking about maritime navigation.
Without metal fasteners, maps, compass, or even a written language, Polynesians found every speck of land with fresh water in an area that's 1/3 of the Earth surface. Respect...
To be fair, the polynesians also traveled thousands of kilometers against those same big prevailing currents and winds you mentioned, to get to hawaii, I see no reason they would be unable to take that one step further and make it to America.
They actually preferred to sail against the wind when exploring, because it would carry them back home if they didn't find anything. The thrust of colonization in the Pacific went from west to east, against the prevailing winds blowing from east to west.
@@theyoshi202 Apparently there were time periods in which the wind patterns changed sufficiently for them to easily sail to easter island and new zealand, and they probably colonized/migrated to these places in waves as they were able to.
There is this Maori mith that Ui-te-Rangiora sailed towards the Southern Ocean and found what some argue could be Antarctica (which is disputed, of course). Would be nice to see a video about who discovered Antarctica as well.
I remember the day I discovered Canada. It was back in the summer of 1998. It was a very strange and hostile land. Not fitting for human inhabitants. After only a few days I decided it was no longer worth enduring the hardships that land brought upon us. I made the decision to return to the United States along with my crew and tell my heroic story of exploration to the north. But the people who write the history books refuse to include my story despite showing many types of physical evidence proving the validity of my claim. Most notably the shot glass I purchased at a gift shop with the words "Niagara Falls, Canada" very clearly printed on the side. This is the true story of discovery they won't teach in school.
After watching this I'm convinced even if each example is sketchy there was probably small sporadic exchanges going on over the many thousands of years
I think that is why Columbus discovery is the most important. Not because was the first (or second, or whatever), but because of the implications it had on both worlds (old and new)
I think so, too. Humans are excellent at getting into every nook and cranny imaginable, it seems inevitable someone was smart or lucky enough to end up tossed across the world more than once.
One thing you missed is the Polynesian habit of sailing against the wind. It might seem counterintuitive, but, when searching for new islands our ancestors found that it was safer to sail as far as you can with your resources into the wind, and if no land was found the winds would bring you back faster. This is why the Polynesian settlement pattern goes against the wind from Sāmoa to Rapa Nui.
There’s this cool thing you missed out on- it’s theorized that the Polynesians intentionally sailed into the opposing winds so that if something went wrong they would eventually find land as they were pushed back. That would explain the more northern contact they had in South America
We have no reason to believe they sailed into the opposing wind other than they were up that north in the Americas and I think it makes way more sense that they sailed to the south, went north along the coast and took the winds home again. This would save them a lot of time instead of sailing into the opposing winds and also increase the chances of them coming into contact with several settlements along the shore on their way north. It would also enable them to buy goods from different 'nations' in the south and sell them up north so they'd have more to barter with.
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Some Peublo tribes in the southwestern US are known to carry DNA from Japan, they also share some words, art forms, and customs. They even have legends of people that crossed a great ocean.
I've wondered about that, too! Cause the people of Hokkaido, Japan's northern island, look more like Plains Indians than Plains Indians look like Siberians, Mongols, Chinese or Koreans. Elements of Shintoism also seem similar to Native American cultures and beliefs.
No surprise that the Ainu people shared a lot with the Native Americans, as the Native Americans originally were from Siberia, where the "proto-Amerindian" and local Siberians would have interacted. Also wasn't there a theory where Ket (another native Paleosiberian language) was linguistically related to some native American language?
@Gordon Brown the ainu are not eurasian though. there asian but there not sino. there sibrian nust like howsouth east asians are still mongoloids but arnt sino asian and infact have more deeper deatures then there cousions up north and if the ainu and aoutheast asians share similer brow ridgis as well butall in all east asians are all mongolids with diffrent varients
Honestly every single theory makes complete sense to me. The americas were just way too far away to be profitable, so the ones contacting them over the millenia just continuosly decided they have better things to do than sail half the way across the world to meet some wierd natives with their sweet potatoes.
Another possible date: 1492. Spain discovers America, and filled Europe and Asia with commercial products, gold and silver: England and all Europe abandon the feudal era.
@@edwardgreen5589 If I discover an abandoned watch in the field, and show it to my friends, I have discovered a watch for them. Someone owned the watch, but now more people know about it. If I discover a continent, and show it to Europeans, Asians, Oceanians and Africans, I am discovering a continent for them, something new for them. Native Americans discovered that Europe, Asia, Africa, and Oceania existed.
I come from Aotearoa New Zealand and was shocked to learn that the word we use for sweet potato, kumara, is almost exactly the same in indigenous languages of the Americas.
@@moreira999 Looking for at online dictionaries I found that the Quechua word for sweet potato is "kumar", and the Maori word for a green potato is kamorā. Similar enough.
Bingo. The Romans had forts and outposts on the Amazon. The Phoenicians traded all over the Ancient world. They were a lot smarter than we give them credit for.
@@markberryhill2715 Exactly the point. Human evolution has not changed in the last 20 thousand years. They were just as intelligent as as us and learning as they went.
@@markberryhill2715 The Roman's possibly had those, the evidence is pretty circumstantial. People back then certainly weren't stupid and it is pretty likely some ships could have gotten there. But there is a difference between Roman and Phoenicians against vikings, the navigation technology. Generally, ships of the classical era tended to sail within sight of land, if not they navigated by stars and the sun. If it got cloudy they were pretty screwed. The vikings figured out a way to see the sun even during bad weather with a sun stone. They also had a kind of disc that with the direction of the sun at mid day would give them the compass direction. That is a huge advantage if you want to sail a trading route, suddenly you get a pretty good chance of survival, particularly with the viking ship called a "knarr" which was extremely sturdy and could carry more then enough food for the journey. So I don't think the Romans and Phoenicians had the technology to have a trade route to the new world. People from Norway still fished around Newfoundland by the time of Columbus and we honestly don't know how large the viking presence in North America were. The Sagas mention 3 settlements (launx au meadows doesn't fit with either of them) and a few journeys but that is just what have been written down long after. Now, people from Rapa Nui and other Polynesian islands is a different matter. They did have the experience to have such a trade route, they had a different way of navigating using ocean streams instead so they might very well had a trade route but the Mediterranean sailors never really had the need for such a method and neither do we have any evidence of them using it. So I am pretty critical to permanent Roman presence in the new world due to Roman Naval technology. And I haven't even talked much about the ships but Roman ships tended to be made to sail in Roman waters. The Phoenician ships have a bit of the same problem. Viking ships were clinker built which meant they were less likely to break apart during high waves and they had a more advanced sail as well. Another reason why a large Roman presence is unlikely is that we tend to find a lot Roman coins in any place they been or have been trading with. Vikings also traded with coins but they preferred trading with other things since silver and gold is pretty rare in Scandinavia. Most finds of viking coins is in areas where the vikings have settled and in Scandinavia. A few viking coins have been found in North America but I can't think of a single Roman in South America. So I think there is pretty high chances for a couple of ancient ships reaching the Americas by accident but very low chance of a permanent trade route there. As for the vikings, we do know they were fishing a lot on the Canadian coast, particularly after Narwhal which they sold the tusk from as "unicorn horns" to stupid western monarchs for a fortune. How much they traded with natives is still unknown, they did found a viking scale in Quebec so some trading were going on.
The probability is both = some couldn't make it back while others could and did but for multiple reasons did not 'colonize' and were not able to maintain either people living in the new world and/or keep trade routes for centuries. Or as in the potential case of the Chinese (Book 1421 by Gavin Menzies), their country begin a centuries long isolation after discovering the Americas.
Yes, never returned, and neither are there remains of reaching the americas, probably sank even before the cape verde archipelago, this is since he sat sail on huracane season and cape verde is a huracane generation spot, the cape verde were in the way to americas in the direction he sailed but the archipelago was uninhabited before europeans
@@DSNCB919 the second try, after there already was a voyage. There are theories based on the toltec stones facial features and the facial reconstructions of the older skulls in the americas. Those are completely fair theories and those things that bring the theories are completely justifiable to suspect on. But the Mali empire's arrival has only evidence of had sailed, but not of have reached the americas.
@@achille295 apert of what I already mentioned, and the things mentioned into the video, there are vestiges of morrocan trade ships that sank near the barbados that could have been trading with natives or been carried by winds or a storm, also there's a phoenician coin that represents a land beyond the strit of Gibraltar, but it is doubt as it is very small coin and it could represent the brittish isles, Madeira, the Asores or the canaries. No evidence of arrival apart from already said in the video, but it is entirely plausible as also said in the video.
Worth mentioning is a exploratory fleet lead by the uncle of Mansa Musa's may have sailed to the America's from Africa. Historical records of the time reports that his uncle, who was the king of Mali at the time, became obsessed with the notion of land to the west of the Great Sea, going so far as to build two giant fleets eventually sailing off with the second one leaving Mansa Musa as king until his return. Neither fleet were ever heard from again, but it's interesting to consider how those that survived the voyage may have lived out their lives.
It literally baffles me how they say Africans didn’t have the resources and wasn’t smart enough and literally the richest king /man to ever live was an African man . He definitely had the power and smarts to complete such conquest!
@@Techno_IdiotoIt’s NOT highly unlikely Columbus in his journal recorded that the native Arawak reported to him that black skinned men arrived amidst them from a southeastern geographical location trading in gold tip spears. Confirming the stories of Mansa Muhammad Ibm Qu (mistaken as Mansa Abubakari Keita) landing in Pernambuco, Brazil initially. This gold which the Arawak natives obtained from these blacks he took back to Spain having it chemically analyzed discovering it was the same as found in the Guinea and Mali region of West Africa. For me what is most convincing is the Arawak word for gold is “guanin” quite similar to the Mandinka of the Mali empire word for gold, which is “ghanin.”
@@GuardianoftheGoldenStoolAnd his description was wrong, he only used them as the only foreign reference he had. Native DNA has been tested many times over on Caribbean natives. It's only Amerindian, to this day.
Polynesians regularly travelled from the Pacific Islands to New Zealand and return, a distance over 2000 km. Plus their historical migratory route was from west to east island hopping all the way to Easter Island. It’s seems logical that they would have continued at some point east, aside from the kumara and linguistic evidence. Maybe several cultures made it to South America before Columbus, even if colonisation failed or was absorbed into local pre existing cultures.
@Sterlin Jordan Polynesians settled in New Zealand about 600 years ago - now known as Maoris. Early after settlement they made trips to and from the Pacific Islands. I settled in New Zealand about 25 years ago : )
I find it likely that the Polynesians arrived in central and south America a few times, but as their entire culture is based on coastal and island-based farming, living and other stuff. I would not be surprised if they went extinct before the current native Americans arrived. it would also be extremely logical for them to move north to middle America as south America is essentially walled off by a mountain range. something the Polynesians never have had to deal with and probably couldn't have dealt with.
Robin Hodgkinson, well we definitely know that there was precolumbian contact between the Polynesians and native Americans of South America. The only question is who visited who. A people who never sailed? Or a people who are well known to have travelled afar on the open ocean. It’s still early with this theory, more studies and research are definitely warranted.
There is also the story of the Precursor Of Mansa Musa, who in oral history was said to have abandoned the throne in order to go on an expedition West and left the throne to Mansa Musa
@nita bineta - Thanks. I find it interesting that there's so much time and effort invested into erasing and or discrediting the evidence of African achievement. For things to be the way they are, the Moors must have really traumatized western Asia.
@nita bineta They were not african, theer were also kulls with similarities to europeans but that does not make them european. An easier explanation is there were a number of tribes chasing the herds across Brengia, some had features representative of the first africans to leave africa, they retained those due to isolation, You see it today in the andaman islanders and papua new guinea peoples, however their geentic show they are closeley allingned with asian peoples.
Speaking of the clay pots the ancient Greeks used to use, as a Greek they are so common you can go to any beach and at a distance of 6-10 meteres away from the coastline you will find clay pot fragments, I have found dozens of large mini and small ones that were used in cups, jars and pots, I brought them over to my house, I went around 7-10 meters deep (almost drowned bc I didn’t have gear) and I found some fragments which I still have at my house, speaking of which ζήτω η Ελλάδα 🇬🇷❤️
Lol at one point the Greek senate lied about other civilizations (khemet, phenocians aka our mulatto step kids) traveling to the americas because no Greek has sailed much further than the statue of hercules
When you started talking about the Polynesian theories I was expecting something about the Araucana chicken, which is theorised to be of polynesian origin.
One interesting story about Africans going to the New World has to do with the ruler of Mali before Mansa Musa. Before Mansa Musa ruled Mali the king was Mansa Abubakar, and he was obsessed with finding out what was on the other side of the Atlantic. He sent one voyage but they came back having barely survived a storm. Unsatisfied, the king then made another voyage consisting of hundreds of ships and thousands of people , including himself, to go explore the Atlantic. Mansa Musa was made king in his absence, but no one from the massive fleet returned. Leaving Mansa on the throne. In short, some Africans knew or at least were curious about what lies on the other side of the ocean before Columbus.
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@@goncaloaraujo6644 you mean native americans and the northern american natives were relatively peaceful and far awaya while the aztects where murdering their neighbours
10:00 the ocean currents (gyres) are not the result of the wind direction. Both the gyres and the prevailing wind direction are the result of the Coriolis effect
@@SpaghettiToaster Coriolis is caused when an object with some angular momentum moves into an area of the Earth with a different amount of angular momentum, so it starts spinning relative to the surrounding environment. This can be done by either changing altitude or changing latitude (because both change your distance from the Earth's axis of rotation). Temperature is related because hot things rise and cold things sink, so temperature difference creates vertical movement, which then manifests itself in the coriolis effect.
@@米空軍パイロット I know what the coriolis effect is, but I'm saying that currents would still exist even if the world didn't spin, if different parts of the ocean were at different temperatures (due to whether they're on the sunny side, the depth of the ocean, nearby land masses, clouds etc). Even though the coriolis forces affect these movements, that doesn't mean they're (primarily) responsible for them.
Just watched the Pangaea video, so we all lived on one continent at one time and lost a bunch of continents in the divorce? Didn't anyone notice that the Americas were drifting away and say, "Somebody should hop on there!"? "Hey, perfect place to build a house for your mother, sweetheart!"
There was an African king from Mali who abandoned his throne appointed a new king and sailed to the americas, after having sent an expedition team who came back and told him what they saw... West Africa has been trading with southern Americans for a long time. It's even known in African cultures.
True but what Columbus did was bring a country worth of people with him...eventually. Lots of solo or low #'d expeditions all around the world by every race. A difference.
@@joegibbs1454 The question is of discovery not colonization. Moreover, Columbus never actually set foot on continental America, just the islands nearby. Furthermore, please read about the thousands of natives who committed suicide rather than live under Columbus. His own country had him arrested, along with his brothers, for the crimes he committed in the New World.
In order for it to be discovery, in my opinion, you would have to return and speak of your discovery. Thats my point. Not that columbus was good guy or whatever. If a rocket ship took off and found good land in outer space but to us here on earth it appears they took off and nobody ever heard from them again...that wouldnt be discovery.
@@joegibbs1454 who says that Africans didn't go back and speak of their travels, and like most historical events, it's changed to make caucasians feel superior.
@@djw2838 im sure they did. The difference here is euros flooded the continent with euros. The africans did not. Doesn't make euros better or africans better. Its just what happened. The euros imo were successful in spreading bcuz they organized on large scales. Thats the lesson.
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Another theory is that the Puno-Celtic People (Celtic people mixed with some Carthage people) fled from Europe as they lost the last Punic war and reached the Americas. In South America there was a tribe called Chachapoya, who has blonde hair and built the houses the same way the Iberian Celts did, they also shared the Canarian stone sling and a cult around the human head. Logistically the Punic seafaring was so good the could have actually reached South America. I totally recommend to read more about that (there are also some interesting documentaries)...
Can you recommend any sources in particular? That sounds really interesting to me and I've always been curious about the potential of Punic explorers potentially reaching the Americas, given their reputation as shipwrights, seafarers, and traders, as well as stories like Hanno the Navigator exploring the Atlantic coast of Africa
Considering how long humans have existed it is very likely that a lot of people from many continents reached the americas before columbus. However the asians were the first to successfully inhabit the whole continent before the Europeans conquered them.
The Olmecs developed a wide trading network, and between 1100 and 800 bce their cultural influence spread northwestward to the Valley of Mexico and southeastward to parts of Central America.
I wish we knew more, like I heard Aztecs had many libraries and possibly historic knowledge of America's, but the Spanish destroyed it during there conquest.
The Olmec giant dark stone heads look more like Polyne- sians than they do Africans -- to me. Also, it is my under- standing that both the mango and the pineapple originated in Mexico. So my question would be, WHEN did those fruits first make their appearance in, initially, Polynesia??
They found Polynesian DNA among members of some tribe deep in the Brazilian jungle. In Mexico, they have a district named Sinaloa, which is not Spanish. In Polynesia, there are places called Hinaloa and Sinaloa. Also, the cooking method of some South American tribes are exactly the same as Polynesian’s. These are additions to evidence as the sweet potato, Polynesian chicken DNA and canoe styles found in the Americas. Stop being insecure and jealous of Polynesian navigational prowess. We can tell that some haters stink of insecurity and jealousy.
Yes true. The chicken bones are from the Polynesian chicken. It was assumed chickens were first introduced by the spannish. Also the southern California Chumash tribe. use a Polynesian type canoe. The style in weaving used is Polynesian boat making. And the phonetic pronunciation of the vessel are similar. Also a close friend of mine voyaged from cook islands on a replica vaka our people use to voyage with to California. www.cookislandsvoyaging.org/ Our history and culture runs deep. We definately know we did not drift from the east unknowningly into Polynesia. We sailed to the America's and returned. Some stayed.
You are probably right about Polynesia settling America, but who did it first, Asians through the strait of Behring or Polynesians? Also you are probably wrong about the word Sinaloa, the origin would rather be two words Sina and lobola, Sinalobola and then became sinaloa, but that can be debated.
coco, and it could have became Sinaloa in Polynesia. By the way, I believe some of the ancestors of Polynesians came from the Americas, and some from Asia. They mixed and produced Polynesians.
jeanferdi, Africa? Nope, that has never been proven to be an absolute truth. Scientists keep proving themselves wrong all the time. They said the earth was the center of the universe, not anymore. They said nothing’s older than the big bang. Then they discovered a star that is much older. They said the first humans in America were people from Asia, who crossed the Bering Strait. Then they discovered human remains in S. America that predate that. Science is always a moving target, not 100% bullet proof.
@@theephraimite it could but it probably did not, you are cherry picking to find things that fit your theory. If there were thousands of words similar from those of Polynesians then why not, but finding one word that sounds Polynesian and then assume that it most be because Polynesia, is not valid, it's just a coincidence, specialy since the word probably is the fusion of two words that did not contain loa at first. A lot of words in Portuguese end with oa like lisboa and many words in maori finish also with oa, would you pretend portugal was founded by Maori? or that Maori language has anything to do with Portuguese? it's pure coincidence. Genetics also are not consistent with your theory. It doesn't mean the theory is wrong, it just means that other theories fit better. The Polynesian theory has to be proven, but with good science, the Sinaloa word is just BS wishful thinking .
I think is key to make a distinction between *discovery* (as in the very 1st people to find a piece of land), *contact* (the case of Vikings, Polynesians and others outside of America that may have stumbled upon it), and *colonization* (the case of the Europeans and you know the rest of the history).
@@MeJustAimyMy country Spain discovered America and took it out of the stone age and put it in the 16th century in 100 years. If Spain does not discover America today, the continent would be much more backward than Africa.
The reason that Columbus is given credit for discovering the Americas is that nothing came of those earlier discoveries. All Viking settlements were abandoned and nothing happened until after Columbus made his discovery.
That is simply wrong. When Columbus sailed off, people didn't know about the Vikings being their first. So logically Columbus got the credit. Since then we have found out about the Vikings and that is the reason why Columbus today is precisely *not* given the credit. At no point did it have anything to do with what the result of either discovery was.
The discovery of the "new" world by Columbus is what set off the conquest of it. While the Vikings had been there, nothing came of it. They were there, they left, and forgot about it.
@@chiprbob Well they didn't forget about it since we have Icelandic sources about it, but other than that it's completely correct what you say. But all that is another talk completely; what resulted in the discoveries. The reason why Columbus was given credit was that they thought he was first, not because they knew he was second but had a larger impact. Which is why today in 2019 Columbus is *not* given credit as the first European in the Americas.
The biggest difference with Columbus vs all other discoverers of the Americas is that Europe capitalized on his (re) discovery via colonization and massive economic investment which did not happen with the other discoverers. Why? I don't know and can only speculate as to why others did not capitalize on the Americas discovery prior to Columbus. What I do know is that Spain had just driven out the Moors needed new sources of economic capital and thus had a massive economic and political (European politics, al la Game of Thrones) reason to invest in the new world. Was Spain's support of Columbus prompted by the recollections of old maps and stories by those who had gone west and wrote or spoke of untouched lands, possibly. Regardless, of what one thinks of Columbus himself or his legacy, it was his (re) discovery and Spain's economic and political situation that prompted Europe to settle the New World for good or ill.
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Yes, also, the colonization and explotation of Americas resources by europeans, is what really gives them the advantage to be unrival in the world. Prior to that, Europeans (after the romans) only held influence on the mediterrain at most outside the continent and even there, the muslims were winning the race
Jeremy Allexon I guess the reason Europe exploited the New World as opposed to every previous exploration and discovery of the continent is because Europe at the time were far more technologically advanced than the previous explorers such as the Norse Vikings and so they could use this tech to support their colonization efforts.
@@Dell-ol6hb I think the answer is more complex than that. Europe didnt have this intention of colonizing the americas in the beginning. In fact, the continent was a pian in the ass, something they desperately search for a passage to todays indonesia. They have the technology to sail in open ocean thanks to Portuguese advancements in sailing. But thats it. The nordics also could send a lot of colonies to north america to settle, but they decided to hold back. There is probably an answer already made by the historians. But my guess is that eventually, after exploring a way out to the unknow pacific, they witness local people wearing and using precious metals everywhere and also new resources (as tomatoes, sugar, etc).
"The biggest difference with Columbus vs all other discoverers of the Americas is that Europe capitalized on his (re) discovery via colonization and massive economic investment which did not happen with the other discoverers. Why?" The world, the technology, the amount of resources at hand and the amount of people were vastly different in the time of the Polynesian visiting, the 1000's with the Norsemen and the 1400's with Columbus. I'd say Columbus was an idiot since what he tried was to reach Asia, the Spanish rolled the dice with him (perhaps they, as you said, had some idea of land that way) and by a stroke of luck he found the Americas instead of dying in a Pacific-Atlantic super sea. By another stroke of luck, this was now a time where the technology, population and economy could handle to start colonizing such a place. Such is history a lot of the time.
7:24 ocean level was low enough for a land bridge . Than it was low enough to have more islands in the pacific . . Making it easier for people in canoes to get across the ocean .
Sources? If that was the case then that would mean that they did it during the Ice Age which ended 11,000 years ago and it is suggested that the polynesians discovered America in the early CE.
There is some evidence of Phoenicians here in Brazil, specifically in Rio de Janeiro where there is an inscription in a rock referencing some phoenician king and his son
There is also some evidence of the Phoenicians reaching the Namibian coast - coins, and the Cape south coast - planks of Cedrus libani + Khoisan rock drawing of a Phoenician style ship.This may vindicate Herodotuses story of the expedition sent by Egyptian King Necho 2.
the only evidence with phonicain theroy is well a lot of evidence has been disproven add on the reason the theory was created was as a way to explain large temples and cities because at the time they couldnt believe non whites could possibly build impressive structures. (So sadly that theory has been tainted which is sad because it seems very interesting !
Daniel Gandhi I am a Jewish Canadian. I know for a FACT that Phoenicians came across the Atlantic Ocean and over into the Gulf of Mexico on its North Side they found The Mississippi River. They Phoenicians had previously been there and up that river. 2700yrs ago, during the reigns of King David and his son, King Solomon they went WAAAY North up that River into what later became Canada. On the North Shore of there has been found Hebrew and Phoneician things. GOLD, SILVER and NICKLE. But they mined the first two as it was used for the VERY First Temple in Jerusalem, Isreal.
The Inuit arrived much later than other native American groups and resemble native Siberians much more closely. In fact, the Viking settlements in Greenland were probably already on the way out by the time they arrived there.
Yup. There were multiple waves of people moving across the Bering Strait after the initial colonization event, beginning with the initial speakers of Na-Dené languages and ending with the Inuit.
While the Romans were iffy at best when it came to ocean sailing (the calmness of the Mediterranean will do that to a civilization), Augustus did want a circumnavigation of the African landmass, so it's not completely out of the question that they could have made it to somewhere in the Americas, albeit completely unintentionally. Given that they probably wouldn't have known where they were, had they managed to make it back, it'd probably just be a side note of some island without much value, and not discussed in much detail -- consider the general Roman disinterest in Ireland. That said, given how wildly talented the Polynesians were at seafaring, I'd honestly be more surprised if they somehow only made it to the likes of Easter Island without finding the mainland continent, and seems a lot more likely than a Roman ship making its way over.
There is so much evidence that people from all around the world have been coming to the Americas for thousands of years before Columbus. I believe the finding of coca in Egyptian mummies was mentioned in a previous video and there is some debate around when and from where chickens reach South America. I hope there is a follow up video on this topic as there is so much to discuss about it. Keep up the good work, I'm really glad I subscribed a few days ago.
The chickens were brought by Spanish and the araucana is a breed the locals created themselves from a mutation found in that group for blue eggs and a lack of tales.
@@_robustus_ some chickens were brought by Polynesians . Polynesian reaching south america and trading with the Mapuche was proved a decade ago Search "mocha island" in chile, that'll show you some interesting stuff
Yeah at one point (1860s) local Egyptian street vendors would dig up mummies and sell them on the streets because mummies were exotic and a cool party prop for European elites. That's one way the coca could have gotten their. I sure wouldn't want to sell dead people while sober lol
Easy: by thinking that the people who already live there are less human than you or not human at all. The myth of Columbus "discovery" of America just shows how self-absorbed and delusional Europe was during it's period of colonial expansion. What really baffles me is that so many people still believe in this myth, since It is so easily disproven by logical thinking.
It simple dude, it's just a shortened way of saying the European discovery of the Americas. Obviously people already lived there, no one denies that, but in essence actual recorded history of the Americas is a European thing, so it is their discovery of it that is remembered because its the one that was written down. Also this is the discovery that had the largest impact on the world. So while they weren't the first people there, they were the ones who discovered it, bringing it into the history books.
CBBoswell it wasn’t all of Europe that false it was Spain and Portugal that founded the voyages to America which were mainly in South America and Caribbean. Yes it was also a Spaniard who was the first step foot on North America which was even 100 yrs before the British actually had its first colony. All the claims Columbus step foot on north America are also false as well, he only went as far as Central America and the Caribbean. One of the most important is actually who America is named after Americo Vespucci was the first to actually map out all the land of America and the only one to actually see all of America. But he actually never lived in any part of America, he went back to Italy to live after his work that Spain founded.
If you'd listen, he says discovery from thw odl world into the new world, and discovery can be done on something that people already know about as well, I can discover America if people live there if I previously did not know about it
@@lilcorsam2242 what evidence is their for Mali actually? Nothing as been found in the Americas that elude to them, no linguistic, archeological, no DNA traces, nothing. The fleet never returned and could very well simply have been lost at sea. We don't know a lot about western African vessel as much as we do about Swahili ones, but it's clear they weren't as strong. In my eyes it's either a legend meant to teach a lesson to the reader of the tale, a false account to cover an historical event we don't know, or a real fleet that got lost at sea.
Really very interesting theories! I am not a Geography expert but appreciate that the researchers had done a great job on it. I also read the comments that a few others explorers were left out by the producer of this series. A sequel to it will be highly appreciated. Thanks so much for sharing such wonderful videos.
I'm delighted you mentioned Saint Brendan and Tim Severin's voyage. Saint Brendan is said to be from County Kerry, the same county in Ireland that I'm from.
I have an old documentary about Australian Aborigines voyaging to South America: it said that the native people of Tierra Del Fuego looked more like native Australians than they did other South American peoples, and that blood taken from the last surviving people matched native Australia blood groups more then it did other South Americans. But the continents are so huge that I could well believe that every theory is true - people from all over could have discovered them a hundred times over thousands of years.
3:40 - That Irish way of writting with lines is actually reminescent of the Quipu: An ancient south American way of writing with strings (Physical lines instead of ingraved ines)
Quipus are really only superficially similar. They weren't used for writing exactly, but as a data recording system for numerical record-keeping. They are more more similar to a semasiographic system - comparable to something like musical notation or road signs, but it lacks many of the characteristics of a "full" writing system. Plus, they are really old. Like, potentially thousands of years old. If anything the influence should be the other way around.
Thing is Ogham didn't necessarily have those lines. Sometimes they did, but mainly the 'lines' that connect the script were actually just the edges of the stones they would carve the notches into (but there are some examples with the connecting lines, it just doesn't seem to be common). The through line is only regular in modern Unicode Ogham, which is designed for print and computers
@@davidrosner6267 - I wasn't suggesting anything but even less that. But it shows that similar forms of writtings can spring up without a common ancestor; so those lines in North-America might not have anything to do neither with the Iris script nor the Inca Quipu...But it was an interesting similarity.
Just Google Ogham and you'll immediately debunk those markings. Historical Ogham was mainly written as a series of notches along the edges of standing stones, not in a line fashion on surfaces. That type of Ogham was invented in the last half century to display Ogham in Unicode for computers as a method of translation and preservation. So either those markings are recent fakes, a different non-Irish system or just a bunch of pretty lines
Abubakari Keita II, Sultan of Mali embarked on an expedition to explore the limits of the Atlantic Ocean, and never returned. He was uncle of Mansa Musa, wealthiest individual of the middle ages.
@Gordon Brown That's actually not true, West Africans carved really large ships capable of holding up to 80 men. And some sailing. In fact the Kru people were such good sailors, the Europeans named them Kru based on the word "crew". They were also very resistant to slavery so instead Europeans and Kru people traded sailing labor for other goods.
@Gordon Brown Or they were stuck in South America? The wind lead them to Modern Brasil, but they would have to travel thousands of km to find a different trade wind.
Great video! Given that Polynesian's colonized Easter Island, it seems pretty reasonable to assume they made it to other parts of South America. Likewise, it's pretty Eurocentric and frankly racists to think that no one from the western most parts of Africa made it to the eastern most parts of South America. People are people the world over. We discover new lands and resources.
The story of the Inca Tupac Yupanqui (emperor of the incas of south América) discovering the polynesia, leaving even a temple in the Easter Island (Ahu Vinapu) is amazing to me. Theres an Island on Mangareva where people still talk about a king called like Tupa (as of Tupac) and their god called Kom Tiki was taught by Tupac (Viracocha the incas god was also called like that). Theres also potatoes, skuls and chickens found in Chile that come from the polynesia meaning that they also reached the country several times. The globalization is just older than we thought
Irish person here to tell you that you pronounced Ogham wrong. The correct way to say it is "Ooom" like "Foam" without the F. Great video as always, keep up the good work :]
@truth seeker Wow, well you sure have a lot of ideas there don't you. I don't know why I'm wasting my time responding to this nonsense but here we go lol. 1.'The original Irish were KILLED off by your Protestant ancestors like Cromwell' So your first point is not correct and that can be established easily enough through reference to the modern DNA to the people in most rural area of the country. 2.'The Irish ogham writing is the same as Igbo column writing in Africa and do you think that's a coincidence.' It's likely that there are some superficial similarities between ancient writing systems given the fact that Ogham is similar to many Celtic scripts across Europe. There were many celts in Italy and other such places that may have spread the script through trade but as you have provided no source to anything that you have said then that's all i'll say here. 3.'FIRST the melanated Catholics ran off the ancient melanated population out of Ireland and then Cromwell killed those Catholics and deported the rest to the Americas and those Catholics could be seen in black Russian icons of the Byzantines and their descendents could be seen in places like Montserrat in the Carribean where their ancestors were deported to. Modern Irish are slavs' Nonsense.
I read once that the Polynesians could predict where islands were by 'reading' the subtle waves that accompany the larger waves. I believe that they didn't need charts or navigation aids because they just sailed right to the island of choice. Better than GPS!
As a person who knows a lot about linguistics I can confirm that the Polynesian word for sweet potato being such an obvious borrowing from a Peruvian language is undeniable proof of contact between the two.
@@ianism3 There was a study done on the genetics a couple years ago and I believe they found small traces of Native American DNA dating back to more or less a thousand years ago in a large handful of Polynesians on every island they tested. Polynesians were truly inspiring explorers.
Antarctica was once 2500 miles to the north and it was called aztlan " the white island" and it was inhabited by people around 300000 years ago by homo sapiens
3:54 These are tool shaping and resharpening marks. I work as an archaeologist out in the West, and these are fairly common in some areas. Usually, it involves shaping and maintaining bone, antler, and wood tools.
The reason why we say that Columbus discovered America is that, until then, all previous visitors had no notion of cosmography and didn’t understand where they had arrived. The Vikings might have arrived in New Foundland & further but they didn’t understand that was another continent nor did they reveal their finding to the rest of the World. Before you jump in to say that Columbus confused America with Asia you should be aware that it was his cartographer, Juan de la Cosa (sorry, not Vespucci, he learned this from de la Cosa) who realized that the new lands were indeed another continent, a fact that Columbus had to grudgingly accept in the end because all his promises he had made to the Crown and investors could not be honored.
Thank you for not using the stereotypical viking helmet with horns. You have my respect for that. The story behind those helmets would be an interesting one, though i imagine it's beyond the scope of this channel.
Ffs everyone now knows it's a misconception. No one thinks vikings had horns anymore. It's been mainstream knowledge for years. You're not any more special for knowing it
I didn't think that it wasn't common knowledge. It just gets frustrating when it is used as the common incorrect epresentation for a rather deep and interesting culture. I was merely appreciating his use of something more accurate, and would enjoy his style in describing this cultural icon.
Im surprised you didn't mention the English/Portuguese fisherman theory. John Cabot literally receiving a letter that talked about his discovery as if it had happened before, massive hauls of Cod coming into England even though their supply was cutoff, stuff like that. Certainly has me sold.
All this discoveries make me really hope that time machine exist so we can learn every detail that happen throughout the history. But of course the time machine should only be build to learn the past not change them
Time machine exists within. Your DNA is embedded with years of ancestral memory. We lost our way with our spirituality and traded it in for Materialism and vanity. We strayed from the path of nature and into the world technology
i watched the whole video and you did sort of cover this but wanted to say anyway. There is a difference between "wholly discovering something with intent" and "accidentally stumbling upon some land, taking the equivalent of a selfy and then returning without realising the magnitude or classifying to anyone what you did , or dying". Otherwise you could argue electricity was discovered by a guy who scratched his head then touched his friend giving him a brief shock.
There have been various skeletal remains found throughout North and South America that seem to predate the Clovis people, supposedly the first to inhabit those continents.
keyword: FIRST everyone for some reason thinks that means he didn't discover it Columbus DID discover America. If I'm traveling around looking for a certain location but find a different location instead, a location I had no knowledge of before, I DISCOVERED that location. dis·cov·er verb to find (something or someone) unexpectedly or in the course of a search. To discover something does not mean it did not exist before you came upon it nor does it mean that someone else didn't discover it before you. History books were not wrong nor misleading about this fact. Y'all just don't grasp the English language apparently.
He discovered it for himself, sure. The problem is the Doctrine of Discovery, which basically states that Europeans had the right to claim the land because it was considered uninhabited. Basically “finders keepers”. The Europeans considered Indigenous peoples to be wildlife, not people, and that stereotype continues today. Saying someone “discovered” America continues that stereotype. Words evolve and they are not neutral. More accurate to say Columbus arrived in America and made modern Europeans aware of it.
@@katherinegilks3880 yes words evolve but the definition of "discover" has remained the same 🙄 so no, it is not more accurate to say he "arrived". just because yall are uneducated and misunderstand the meaning of a word doesnt make the statement less accurate
@@vidaliatheonionqueen From your comment, it is clear that you are less educated on this than I am, so let me teach you. The definition of the word may not have changed, but the connotation has. Rather, the connotation has always been there as I mentioned in my previous comment, but it is now being recognised as wrong. (Wrong as in both morally and logically wrong, not simply wrong as incorrect.) Just because a definition stays the same, or appears to do so because of the dictionary, doesn't mean that the meaning doesn't change or that a secondary meaning doesn't become more popular. Also, with a language as widespread as English, words have different meanings to different peoples and the dictionary doesn't capture that. Take the word "kid" - it means "baby goat" but now means "child" or even "young person". In NA anyhow, if I ask you if you have any kids, you don't assume I am referring to goats. (It isn't even seen as an informal word, like it is in some other places. Then you get to other places where English is more recent and "kids" just means children except in the dictionary.) Why are you so hung up on Columbus? Why is it important that he did or didn't "discover" anything? His voyages had a big impact on global politics, economy, and climate, among other things. His arrival in America is still a big deal. It just shouldn't be celebrated, since part of that big deal was a genocide and mass death of millions of people. He certainly never set foot in the US.
@@katherinegilks3880 youre wrong and im not going to sit here and write out why. no one implied he jad the right to do anything because he discovered america. that is your irrational twisted interpretation of whats been said. im not hung up on Columbus. the more important question is why do ypu people always resort to accusing people of being "hung up" or obsessed with something just because they take some time to discuss it or point something out about it 🙄🤦♀️💁♀️
surprised you didn't mention the waccamaw and duhare with ireland or that malian king who went out to explore the atlantic with 2,000 boats who never came back edit: duhare was a waccamaw tribe in south carolina that were white and had orange hair, who also used the writing style he talked about in the video
I wish you would talk more about the Middle East. I'm from Lebanon, and our culture and geography is so interesting. For example, many Lebanese deny to be Arabs and instead opt to say " Phoenician'. Whilst ignoring the Language we speak, and the centuries of colonization and conquering by so many empires. It would awesome for you to speak on it.
I totally believe that polynesians discover American first by boats, im not Polynesians but im Austronesians, most group of Austronesians have typical and numerous types of boat. And Austronesians also are master seafarers and master of sea navigator, look at Madagascar, Austronesians discover Madagascar first by sailing boats from Borneo thousand kilometres to Madagascar, its also possibly can happen to polynesians sailing boat to American. And also the Easter island (Rapa Nui) is close to mainland South America, its very possible that polynesians had arrived first to South America by boats.
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MrHistory808 given that native Americans blood is found in Polynesia.... the question is which way did the genes flow. The latest two studies argue for native Americans reaching an already populated eastern Polynesia. Either way, it is wonderful to see the contact between Polynesians and native Americans.
@@thedstorm8922 Well ofc the Arabs and Persians traded with Africans... Most of the Arabs 2000+ years ago would have been mostly black. It wasn't until the middle east was conquered by the Europeans and Turks that they got a light complexion.
You should know that there are cases of fishermen from Cape Verde landing on Brasil after getting troubled with their boats , normaly after a few weeks lost at sea.
I remember seeing a documentary one time about this subject. There was also a site in Peru (I think) that they found skeletons that had some sort of strain of the flu or cold or something that was only found in two places in the world: that small population in South America and on an island in Japan.
The industrial revolution may have happened sooner and our life currently could be very different possibly even more advanced we could mayb have flying cars in 2020!
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Thank you for including South America when mentioning the closest Romans got to America. Very few people actually get that “America” or “Americas” stand for the landmasses of North and South America. Of course. Nowadays it’s common to use “American” when referring to residents of the United States of America. Calling the US “America”, however, results in quite of bit of ambiguity and, to an extent, disregard to the other countries in the Americas.
You forgot the best part about the Irish discovery event/ myth event it's the fact that they supposedly did it in a animal skin boat and then that guy in the 70s did it just to prove it could be done.
for those curious, there is a doco called "cocaine mummies" where traces of tobacco leaves (along with other plants from the Americas) were found in wrappings of Egyptian mummies. Good watch for people who like a show that raises questions. It was a while ago that I watched it so I don't remember all the details in the show
@@marceloorellana5726 thats because theres no major islands east of hawaii that that could support an entire culture of people. I guarantee they didnt get to hawaii and said theres nothing left to be found East of Hawaii. How about you do research before making false ignorant claims 🤷🤣
@@marceloorellana5726 yeah.... except there are artistic and sculptural similarities between them and some south/central american traditions, and it's recently been shown that there was genetic interchange about 1000 years ago.
The Polynesians did make it to Easter Island, so it isn't a stretch to think they ran into South America
The Surui tribe in Brazil have genes of Austronesian/Australian/Papuan descent, so it appears that this indeed happened, although probably nobody went home to tell anyone.
Just look at a Polynesian and Amerindian standing next to each other, there’s no way they didn’t colonise the Americas
@@martychisnall phenotype is almost useless to determine relations between ethnic groups
@@martychisnall Not really. Just because two places are near each other doesn't guarantee contact and colonization of the land. For example, human beings originated in Africa, but it took us say 100k years just to discover Madagascar - and its first colonists were from Austronesia, not Africa (although Africa did help to populate it too).
Plus, the vast majority of Amerind groups are believed to have crossed from Siberia, and a long, long time before the Tu'i Tonga colonization period. And even still, the population of the Americas then was very high - way too high even in the larger Andean kingdoms to be colonized all that easily. The Surui and co. likely came in around the same time people reached Australia, I think.
there are bones of a species of chicken native only to polynesia in peru or chile radiocarbon dates to the early 1400's.
The winds also give credibility to the Polynesians for another reason. We know that when exploring, they would often sail against the prevailing winds. That way, if they found nothing, they could turn around and zip right back home
Not only were the Polynesians relying on the winds but also the Pacific Current, which runs clockwise then North to South along the coast of both North and South America and then westward
You missed something very important with the Polynesians: their voyages of discovery sailed *into* the wind. This was so that the return voyages would be faster, in case they ran short of food and water, or their ships were damaged by storms.
Very stupid to start a voyage INTO THE WIND in a machine that depends on wind. What about if they dont get to the place???, They will starve, you idiot.. Im a navigation instructor as pilot instructor. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Have you ever sail a boat??? Sooo stupid to post that..
Their sails were different to European sails, look it up
One thing not mentioned here is that there is some genetic evidence of intermixing between native american and some Polynesian populations. I would say it is 99% likely it happened.
@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC I didn't know you could get so important a job, despite failing kindergarten-level English. The Polynesians rowed as well as used the sails, so it wasn't entirely dependent on wind. And it would be better to just not get there, and turn around with the wind pushing you back home. I also find it funny that you brought up that you are a pilot instructor(which I thoroughly doubt), as if that matters considering he's talking about maritime navigation.
@@veryoriginalname3823 -English is my third language, dam sucker. Hablo Espanol. Eu fala portugues..
Without metal fasteners, maps, compass, or even a written language, Polynesians found every speck of land with fresh water in an area that's 1/3 of the Earth surface. Respect...
We are just built different 🤭
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True, good call brother
@@turuff7114 Literally
Thank you! But we did have celestial maps, and normal maps
To be fair, the polynesians also traveled thousands of kilometers against those same big prevailing currents and winds you mentioned, to get to hawaii, I see no reason they would be unable to take that one step further and make it to America.
They actually preferred to sail against the wind when exploring, because it would carry them back home if they didn't find anything. The thrust of colonization in the Pacific went from west to east, against the prevailing winds blowing from east to west.
aronchai but how would they sail against the wind?
@@theyoshi202 Apparently there were time periods in which the wind patterns changed sufficiently for them to easily sail to easter island and new zealand, and they probably colonized/migrated to these places in waves as they were able to.
@@theyoshi202 Presumably by tacking, but I don't know much about sailing.
There is this Maori mith that Ui-te-Rangiora sailed towards the Southern Ocean and found what some argue could be Antarctica (which is disputed, of course). Would be nice to see a video about who discovered Antarctica as well.
I remember the day I discovered Canada. It was back in the summer of 1998. It was a very strange and hostile land. Not fitting for human inhabitants. After only a few days I decided it was no longer worth enduring the hardships that land brought upon us. I made the decision to return to the United States along with my crew and tell my heroic story of exploration to the north. But the people who write the history books refuse to include my story despite showing many types of physical evidence proving the validity of my claim. Most notably the shot glass I purchased at a gift shop with the words "Niagara Falls, Canada" very clearly printed on the side.
This is the true story of discovery they won't teach in school.
I like that
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Did the natives have poutine yet, back then, as part of their traditional foods?
Damn bro you got the whole squad laughing.
After watching this I'm convinced even if each example is sketchy there was probably small sporadic exchanges going on over the many thousands of years
Yup. If anything, fact is stranger than fiction, so if this is a somewhat accurate video, I think your assumptions are very tame and possible
I think that is why Columbus discovery is the most important. Not because was the first (or second, or whatever), but because of the implications it had on both worlds (old and new)
Marco Grigolo It’s basically just the first transoceanic contact that was sustained over the years
I think so, too. Humans are excellent at getting into every nook and cranny imaginable, it seems inevitable someone was smart or lucky enough to end up tossed across the world more than once.
I think most civilizations found it and couldn’t bother to colonize it
One thing you missed is the Polynesian habit of sailing against the wind.
It might seem counterintuitive, but, when searching for new islands our ancestors found that it was safer to sail as far as you can with your resources into the wind, and if no land was found the winds would bring you back faster. This is why the Polynesian settlement pattern goes against the wind from Sāmoa to Rapa Nui.
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if he did, why didn't he announce it to the world too, and why vikings never did anything in America, that's just stupid.
Geography Now! did their country report on Norway today, too.
There’s this cool thing you missed out on- it’s theorized that the Polynesians intentionally sailed into the opposing winds so that if something went wrong they would eventually find land as they were pushed back. That would explain the more northern contact they had in South America
Yeah I thought he would talk about this
@Naphtali Exiled I'm lost
We have no reason to believe they sailed into the opposing wind other than they were up that north in the Americas and I think it makes way more sense that they sailed to the south, went north along the coast and took the winds home again.
This would save them a lot of time instead of sailing into the opposing winds and also increase the chances of them coming into contact with several settlements along the shore on their way north.
It would also enable them to buy goods from different 'nations' in the south and sell them up north so they'd have more to barter with.
@Naphtali Exiled 😂😂 let's rise up! The truth must be brought out!
PS: if you don't mind me asking where are you from? How did you guess (correctly) that I'm a brown skinned person ?
@@heathenfire Your name. Duh. He's an idiot.
Vikings:We found America first
Colonists:No it was us
Native Americans:Am I a joke to you?
the luzia womens laughs at all above
What about amerigo vhespusy ?
Native Americans: Am I primitive to you?
Wasted oppurtunity
Bruh I’m pretty sure like animals found America first lmao
Vikings: Y'all weren't in Greenland when we got there first.
Some Peublo tribes in the southwestern US are known to carry DNA from Japan, they also share some words, art forms, and customs. They even have legends of people that crossed a great ocean.
I've wondered about that, too! Cause the people of Hokkaido, Japan's northern island, look more like Plains Indians than Plains Indians look like Siberians, Mongols, Chinese or Koreans. Elements of Shintoism also seem similar to Native American cultures and beliefs.
@Gordon Brown Yes and they walked not sailed. The Japanese are East Asians the Ainu are not.
No surprise that the Ainu people shared a lot with the Native Americans, as the Native Americans originally were from Siberia, where the "proto-Amerindian" and local Siberians would have interacted.
Also wasn't there a theory where Ket (another native Paleosiberian language) was linguistically related to some native American language?
expecially the zuni people. there aslo known to be a laguage isolate and there langue sounds so similer to japanese
@Gordon Brown the ainu are not eurasian though. there asian but there not sino. there sibrian nust like howsouth east asians are still mongoloids but arnt sino asian and infact have more deeper deatures then there cousions up north and if the ainu and aoutheast asians share similer brow ridgis as well butall in all east asians are all mongolids with diffrent varients
Honestly every single theory makes complete sense to me. The americas were just way too far away to be profitable, so the ones contacting them over the millenia just continuosly decided they have better things to do than sail half the way across the world to meet some wierd natives with their sweet potatoes.
Another possible date: 1492. Spain discovers America, and filled Europe and Asia with commercial products, gold and silver: England and all Europe abandon the feudal era.
Hey now! Sweet potatos are totally worth the tripp, lol.
@@riley8385 Of course :)
Europeans Discovered nothing!
@@edwardgreen5589 If I discover an abandoned watch in the field, and show it to my friends, I have discovered a watch for them. Someone owned the watch, but now more people know about it.
If I discover a continent, and show it to Europeans, Asians, Oceanians and Africans, I am discovering a continent for them, something new for them. Native Americans discovered that Europe, Asia, Africa, and Oceania existed.
I come from Aotearoa New Zealand and was shocked to learn that the word we use for sweet potato, kumara, is almost exactly the same in indigenous languages of the Americas.
Which language ???
New Zealand is part of Polynesians
@@moreira999 Looking for at online dictionaries I found that the Quechua word for sweet potato is "kumar", and the Maori word for a green potato is kamorā. Similar enough.
Well, nowdays almost everyone call it "Camote" but yep, the orginal words are very very similar
Manuel Sánchez Cruz lmao kāmora, it’s kumara
Perhaps the question that should be asked is; How many times have the Americas been discovered?
Bingo. The Romans had forts and outposts on the Amazon. The Phoenicians traded all over the Ancient world. They were a lot smarter than we give them credit for.
@@markberryhill2715 Exactly the point. Human evolution has not changed in the last 20 thousand years. They were just as intelligent as as us and learning as they went.
Exactly. And the first were the PaleoAmericans over 45,000 years ago.
To the modern coneceted world, just one cristobal colon
@@markberryhill2715 The Roman's possibly had those, the evidence is pretty circumstantial.
People back then certainly weren't stupid and it is pretty likely some ships could have gotten there.
But there is a difference between Roman and Phoenicians against vikings, the navigation technology. Generally, ships of the classical era tended to sail within sight of land, if not they navigated by stars and the sun. If it got cloudy they were pretty screwed.
The vikings figured out a way to see the sun even during bad weather with a sun stone. They also had a kind of disc that with the direction of the sun at mid day would give them the compass direction.
That is a huge advantage if you want to sail a trading route, suddenly you get a pretty good chance of survival, particularly with the viking ship called a "knarr" which was extremely sturdy and could carry more then enough food for the journey.
So I don't think the Romans and Phoenicians had the technology to have a trade route to the new world. People from Norway still fished around Newfoundland by the time of Columbus and we honestly don't know how large the viking presence in North America were. The Sagas mention 3 settlements (launx au meadows doesn't fit with either of them) and a few journeys but that is just what have been written down long after.
Now, people from Rapa Nui and other Polynesian islands is a different matter. They did have the experience to have such a trade route, they had a different way of navigating using ocean streams instead so they might very well had a trade route but the Mediterranean sailors never really had the need for such a method and neither do we have any evidence of them using it.
So I am pretty critical to permanent Roman presence in the new world due to Roman Naval technology. And I haven't even talked much about the ships but Roman ships tended to be made to sail in Roman waters. The Phoenician ships have a bit of the same problem. Viking ships were clinker built which meant they were less likely to break apart during high waves and they had a more advanced sail as well.
Another reason why a large Roman presence is unlikely is that we tend to find a lot Roman coins in any place they been or have been trading with. Vikings also traded with coins but they preferred trading with other things since silver and gold is pretty rare in Scandinavia. Most finds of viking coins is in areas where the vikings have settled and in Scandinavia. A few viking coins have been found in North America but I can't think of a single Roman in South America.
So I think there is pretty high chances for a couple of ancient ships reaching the Americas by accident but very low chance of a permanent trade route there. As for the vikings, we do know they were fishing a lot on the Canadian coast, particularly after Narwhal which they sold the tusk from as "unicorn horns" to stupid western monarchs for a fortune. How much they traded with natives is still unknown, they did found a viking scale in Quebec so some trading were going on.
The guy who “discovered” the Amphore actually admitted that he placed them there so that’s insignificant now
There is always a hoaxer lurking around: Piltdown Man
I discovered my neighbor's pool one summer. He wasn't too happy about that.
I discovered your wife and sister.
Did he have a flag?
So ,to discover means to see.
Ha haha haha..
I feel like people from multiple places got to the americas, but just couldn’t get back so that’s why they remained unknown to the old world.
Exactly
Wrong...
That's because they landed at the Hotel California. They checked out but could never leave.
The Vikings did go back though.
The probability is both = some couldn't make it back while others could and did but for multiple reasons did not 'colonize' and were not able to maintain either people living in the new world and/or keep trade routes for centuries. Or as in the potential case of the Chinese (Book 1421 by Gavin Menzies), their country begin a centuries long isolation after discovering the Americas.
I saw on the Mali empire episodes by extra credits that an exposition was launched by a king but never returned
Yes, never returned, and neither are there remains of reaching the americas, probably sank even before the cape verde archipelago, this is since he sat sail on huracane season and cape verde is a huracane generation spot, the cape verde were in the way to americas in the direction he sailed but the archipelago was uninhabited before europeans
city there's plenty of signs africans DID make it nice try.. btw that was the 2nd voyage
@@DSNCB919 the second try, after there already was a voyage. There are theories based on the toltec stones facial features and the facial reconstructions of the older skulls in the americas.
Those are completely fair theories and those things that bring the theories are completely justifiable to suspect on.
But the Mali empire's arrival has only evidence of had sailed, but not of have reached the americas.
@@alecity4877 Wrong, there are plenty of vestiges of his arrival to Americas, look into it
@@achille295 apert of what I already mentioned, and the things mentioned into the video, there are vestiges of morrocan trade ships that sank near the barbados that could have been trading with natives or been carried by winds or a storm, also there's a phoenician coin that represents a land beyond the strit of Gibraltar, but it is doubt as it is very small coin and it could represent the brittish isles, Madeira, the Asores or the canaries.
No evidence of arrival apart from already said in the video, but it is entirely plausible as also said in the video.
Worth mentioning is a exploratory fleet lead by the uncle of Mansa Musa's may have sailed to the America's from Africa. Historical records of the time reports that his uncle, who was the king of Mali at the time, became obsessed with the notion of land to the west of the Great Sea, going so far as to build two giant fleets eventually sailing off with the second one leaving Mansa Musa as king until his return. Neither fleet were ever heard from again, but it's interesting to consider how those that survived the voyage may have lived out their lives.
It literally baffles me how they say Africans didn’t have the resources and wasn’t smart enough and literally the richest king /man to ever live was an African man . He definitely had the power and smarts to complete such conquest!
@@MiraLee_ Evidence is inconclusive, and it's highly unlikely regardless.
I saw that
@@Techno_IdiotoIt’s NOT highly unlikely Columbus in his journal recorded that the native Arawak reported to him that black skinned men arrived amidst them from a southeastern geographical location trading in gold tip spears. Confirming the stories of Mansa Muhammad Ibm Qu (mistaken as Mansa Abubakari Keita) landing in Pernambuco, Brazil initially. This gold which the Arawak natives obtained from these blacks he took back to Spain having it chemically analyzed discovering it was the same as found in the Guinea and Mali region of West Africa. For me what is most convincing is the Arawak word for gold is “guanin” quite similar to the Mandinka of the Mali empire word for gold, which is “ghanin.”
@@GuardianoftheGoldenStoolAnd his description was wrong, he only used them as the only foreign reference he had. Native DNA has been tested many times over on Caribbean natives. It's only Amerindian, to this day.
Polynesians regularly travelled from the Pacific Islands to New Zealand and return, a distance over 2000 km. Plus their historical migratory route was from west to east island hopping all the way to Easter Island. It’s seems logical that they would have continued at some point east, aside from the kumara and linguistic evidence. Maybe several cultures made it to South America before Columbus, even if colonisation failed or was absorbed into local pre existing cultures.
@@DP-eb2cg what's your problem? Or did you just misunderstand my meaning...
@Sterlin Jordan Polynesians settled in New Zealand about 600 years ago - now known as Maoris. Early after settlement they made trips to and from the Pacific Islands. I settled in New Zealand about 25 years ago : )
I find it likely that the Polynesians arrived in central and south America a few times, but as their entire culture is based on coastal and island-based farming, living and other stuff. I would not be surprised if they went extinct before the current native Americans arrived. it would also be extremely logical for them to move north to middle America as south America is essentially walled off by a mountain range. something the Polynesians never have had to deal with and probably couldn't have dealt with.
@@robinhodgkinson No sorry I think I just confused or something...Cheers for your detailed answer.
Robin Hodgkinson, well we definitely know that there was precolumbian contact between the Polynesians and native Americans of South America. The only question is who visited who. A people who never sailed? Or a people who are well known to have travelled afar on the open ocean. It’s still early with this theory, more studies and research are definitely warranted.
There is also the story of the Precursor Of Mansa Musa, who in oral history was said to have abandoned the throne in order to go on an expedition West and left the throne to Mansa Musa
Abu Bakr or Abu Bakari
@nita bineta - l thought I had heard that. Do you have a reference that supports this?
@nita bineta - Thanks.
I find it interesting that there's so much time and effort invested into erasing and or discrediting the evidence of African achievement.
For things to be the way they are, the Moors must have really traumatized western Asia.
Thank you someone else knows
@nita bineta They were not african, theer were also kulls with similarities to europeans but that does not make them european. An easier explanation is there were a number of tribes chasing the herds across Brengia, some had features representative of the first africans to leave africa, they retained those due to isolation, You see it today in the andaman islanders and papua new guinea peoples, however their geentic show they are closeley allingned with asian peoples.
So Columbus shows up like a troll in the comments shouting “First!” but makes history instead of getting downvotes
I would argue that Columbus also discovered (or more accurately re-discovered) America as it was pretty much unknown at that time in Western Europe.
Considering he was quite a racist he‘d have a Pepe The Frog profile picture
e1123581321345589144 yep, the knowledge was lost
Not even, genius died insisting it was Asia even though it was repeatedly shown to him that he "discovered" an unknown continent.
@Naphtali Exiled Are you okay?
Every time he said, "but before we move on to that point" I was expecting an ad from the sponsor lol
Speaking of the clay pots the ancient Greeks used to use, as a Greek they are so common you can go to any beach and at a distance of 6-10 meteres away from the coastline you will find clay pot fragments, I have found dozens of large mini and small ones that were used in cups, jars and pots, I brought them over to my house, I went around 7-10 meters deep (almost drowned bc I didn’t have gear) and I found some fragments which I still have at my house, speaking of which ζήτω η Ελλάδα 🇬🇷❤️
@lewangoalski Greetings my ancient friend!
That is extremely fascinating! Thanks for sharing.
Lmao Same i keep finding them . Also roof parts and floor parts
Lol at one point the Greek senate lied about other civilizations (khemet, phenocians aka our mulatto step kids) traveling to the americas because no Greek has sailed much further than the statue of hercules
100 years later: plastic pots are everywhere.
Subscribing to this channel is a thing i do not regret in any way shape or form
Absolutely amazing content
do you have channel subs that you regret?
When you started talking about the Polynesian theories I was expecting something about the Araucana chicken, which is theorised to be of polynesian origin.
Some native American dog breeds have genes that originated from China and Turkey. Including the Chihuahua and the Mexican hairless.
Gordian Plot
I believe dogs were domesticated in Asia
@Bang Bang
Is there any animal that *wasn’t* first domesticated in Asia?
Kurt22
I believe cows were domesticated in the Middle East like, the Turkey/Iran region.
Edit: I guess the proper term is Anatolia.
@Big Bang
some breeds share a more recent origin, the Mexican hairless descended from the Chinese crested long after people migrated to Americas
One interesting story about Africans going to the New World has to do with the ruler of Mali before Mansa Musa.
Before Mansa Musa ruled Mali the king was Mansa Abubakar, and he was obsessed with finding out what was on the other side of the Atlantic. He sent one voyage but they came back having barely survived a storm.
Unsatisfied, the king then made another voyage consisting of hundreds of ships and thousands of people , including himself, to go explore the Atlantic. Mansa Musa was made king in his absence, but no one from the massive fleet returned. Leaving Mansa on the throne.
In short, some Africans knew or at least were curious about what lies on the other side of the ocean before Columbus.
Natives: Straight chilling
Literally every culture: It's free real estate
Edit: Why are so many ppl getting triggered saying "tHe NaTiVes MURdereD eaCh oThEr Th3Y WeReNt ChiLLinG."
They weren’t chilling, astecas were killing almost everyone, about 20k Indians per month
@@goncaloaraujo6644 you mean native americans and the northern american natives were relatively peaceful and far awaya while the aztects where murdering their neighbours
@@goncaloaraujo6644 true but you know what I mean
they had the opportunity to join western civilisation and convert to christianity and many did
The Taíno people were chill
10:00 the ocean currents (gyres) are not the result of the wind direction. Both the gyres and the prevailing wind direction are the result of the Coriolis effect
I thought the currents were a result of differences in water temperature.
That is absolutely true good catch
@@SpaghettiToaster Coriolis is caused when an object with some angular momentum moves into an area of the Earth with a different amount of angular momentum, so it starts spinning relative to the surrounding environment. This can be done by either changing altitude or changing latitude (because both change your distance from the Earth's axis of rotation).
Temperature is related because hot things rise and cold things sink, so temperature difference creates vertical movement, which then manifests itself in the coriolis effect.
@@米空軍パイロット I know what the coriolis effect is, but I'm saying that currents would still exist even if the world didn't spin, if different parts of the ocean were at different temperatures (due to whether they're on the sunny side, the depth of the ocean, nearby land masses, clouds etc). Even though the coriolis forces affect these movements, that doesn't mean they're (primarily) responsible for them.
Red Ice, he knows. He has a video on the Coriolis effect.
Just watched the Pangaea video, so we all lived on one continent at one time and lost a bunch of continents in the divorce? Didn't anyone notice that the Americas were drifting away and say, "Somebody should hop on there!"?
"Hey, perfect place to build a house for your mother, sweetheart!"
There was an African king from Mali who abandoned his throne appointed a new king and sailed to the americas, after having sent an expedition team who came back and told him what they saw... West Africa has been trading with southern Americans for a long time. It's even known in African cultures.
True but what Columbus did was bring a country worth of people with him...eventually. Lots of solo or low #'d expeditions all around the world by every race. A difference.
@@joegibbs1454 The question is of discovery not colonization. Moreover, Columbus never actually set foot on continental America, just the islands nearby. Furthermore, please read about the thousands of natives who committed suicide rather than live under Columbus. His own country had him arrested, along with his brothers, for the crimes he committed in the New World.
In order for it to be discovery, in my opinion, you would have to return and speak of your discovery. Thats my point. Not that columbus was good guy or whatever. If a rocket ship took off and found good land in outer space but to us here on earth it appears they took off and nobody ever heard from them again...that wouldnt be discovery.
@@joegibbs1454 who says that Africans didn't go back and speak of their travels, and like most historical events, it's changed to make caucasians feel superior.
@@djw2838 im sure they did. The difference here is euros flooded the continent with euros. The africans did not. Doesn't make euros better or africans better. Its just what happened. The euros imo were successful in spreading bcuz they organized on large scales. Thats the lesson.
Nobody
History Channel : we have actually come to inform you it was aliens
Another theory is that the Puno-Celtic People (Celtic people mixed with some Carthage people) fled from Europe as they lost the last Punic war and reached the Americas.
In South America there was a tribe called Chachapoya, who has blonde hair and built the houses the same way the Iberian Celts did, they also shared the Canarian stone sling and a cult around the human head.
Logistically the Punic seafaring was so good the could have actually reached South America.
I totally recommend to read more about that (there are also some interesting documentaries)...
Can you recommend any sources in particular? That sounds really interesting to me and I've always been curious about the potential of Punic explorers potentially reaching the Americas, given their reputation as shipwrights, seafarers, and traders, as well as stories like Hanno the Navigator exploring the Atlantic coast of Africa
Considering how long humans have existed it is very likely that a lot of people from many continents reached the americas before columbus. However the asians were the first to successfully inhabit the whole continent before the Europeans conquered them.
Maybe Carthaginians or Puno-Celtic sailors used the westward blowing winds to sail from West Africa to South America?
Archeologists found that human remains of Chachapoyas do not differ significantly from other Peruvian aboriginal people.
@@_robustus_ THey could have mixed with the local population over time. Culturally punic but genetically native over many generations.
well the polynesian one has been proven beyond doubt now, as genetic evidence was found in 2020
It was firstly discovered by a single cell microorganism
The mitochondria is the power house of the cell
The true first explorer of the americas
lol Archaea bumping into the Acasta gneiss were the first to discover America.
Dude why do I see you everywhere
@@FloofyTanker A.T.P= Active Trans Portation chemical. Did you learn that one I invented it
Answer: Not Christopher Columbus
Not Mayflower's englands
american textbooks: am i a joke to you
Its possible that others sailed there before Columbus but his discovery had the biggest impact on the world.
Definitely not Columbus
@@damnthezionists1708 well Columbus changed the world and discovered America for europeans.
Well, we know who has discovered America last.
lol
@ANIMATION WEB 3 Chris
@@houselemuellan8756 Topher
@@Yigash and Europe.
I did
The Olmecs developed a wide trading network, and between 1100 and 800 bce their cultural influence spread northwestward to the Valley of Mexico and southeastward to parts of Central America.
I wish we knew more, like I heard Aztecs had many libraries and possibly historic knowledge of America's, but the Spanish destroyed it during there conquest.
@@lugi25 Always destroying historical artifacts its a shame really
The Olmec giant dark stone heads look more like Polyne- sians than they do Africans -- to me. Also, it is my under- standing that both the mango and the pineapple originated
in Mexico. So my question would be, WHEN did those fruits first make their appearance in, initially, Polynesia??
*I'm pretty sure 100% not my mom*
Looks like somebody watched the previous video lol
They found Polynesian DNA among members of some tribe deep in the Brazilian jungle. In Mexico, they have a district named Sinaloa, which is not Spanish. In Polynesia, there are places called Hinaloa and Sinaloa. Also, the cooking method of some South American tribes are exactly the same as Polynesian’s. These are additions to evidence as the sweet potato, Polynesian chicken DNA and canoe styles found in the Americas. Stop being insecure and jealous of Polynesian navigational prowess. We can tell that some haters stink of insecurity and jealousy.
Yes true. The chicken bones are from the Polynesian chicken. It was assumed chickens were first introduced by the spannish. Also the southern California Chumash tribe. use a Polynesian type canoe. The style in weaving used is Polynesian boat making. And the phonetic pronunciation of the vessel are similar.
Also a close friend of mine voyaged from cook islands on a replica vaka our people use to voyage with to California. www.cookislandsvoyaging.org/
Our history and culture runs deep. We definately know we did not drift from the east unknowningly into Polynesia. We sailed to the America's and returned. Some stayed.
You are probably right about Polynesia settling America, but who did it first, Asians through the strait of Behring or Polynesians?
Also you are probably wrong about the word Sinaloa, the origin would rather be two words Sina and lobola, Sinalobola and then became sinaloa, but that can be debated.
coco, and it could have became Sinaloa in Polynesia. By the way, I believe some of the ancestors of Polynesians came from the Americas, and some from Asia. They mixed and produced Polynesians.
jeanferdi, Africa? Nope, that has never been proven to be an absolute truth. Scientists keep proving themselves wrong all the time. They said the earth was the center of the universe, not anymore. They said nothing’s older than the big bang. Then they discovered a star that is much older. They said the first humans in America were people from Asia, who crossed the Bering Strait. Then they discovered human remains in S. America that predate that. Science is always a moving target, not 100% bullet proof.
@@theephraimite it could but it probably did not, you are cherry picking to find things that fit your theory.
If there were thousands of words similar from those of Polynesians then why not, but finding one word that sounds Polynesian and then assume that it most be because Polynesia, is not valid, it's just a coincidence, specialy since the word probably is the fusion of two words that did not contain loa at first.
A lot of words in Portuguese end with oa like lisboa and many words in maori finish also with oa, would you pretend portugal was founded by Maori? or that Maori language has anything to do with Portuguese? it's pure coincidence.
Genetics also are not consistent with your theory.
It doesn't mean the theory is wrong, it just means that other theories fit better. The Polynesian theory has to be proven, but with good science, the Sinaloa word is just BS wishful thinking .
I think is key to make a distinction between *discovery* (as in the very 1st people to find a piece of land), *contact* (the case of Vikings, Polynesians and others outside of America that may have stumbled upon it), and *colonization* (the case of the Europeans and you know the rest of the history).
EXACTLY
no European explorers “discovered” anything
@@MeJustAimy Even by that definition They still discovered all the islands in the Atlantic Ocean.
@@MeJustAimyMy country Spain discovered America and took it out of the stone age and put it in the 16th century in 100 years. If Spain does not discover America today, the continent would be much more backward than Africa.
Great video! 😊
The reason that Columbus is given credit for discovering the Americas is that nothing came of those earlier discoveries. All Viking settlements were abandoned and nothing happened until after Columbus made his discovery.
That is simply wrong.
When Columbus sailed off, people didn't know about the Vikings being their first. So logically Columbus got the credit.
Since then we have found out about the Vikings and that is the reason why Columbus today is precisely *not* given the credit.
At no point did it have anything to do with what the result of either discovery was.
Guess they made the mistake of not pillaging whatever lands they came across.
The discovery of the "new" world by Columbus is what set off the conquest of it. While the Vikings had been there, nothing came of it. They were there, they left, and forgot about it.
@@majorfallacy5926 the "vikings" that found north america were not vikings
they were norsemen
@@chiprbob Well they didn't forget about it since we have Icelandic sources about it, but other than that it's completely correct what you say.
But all that is another talk completely; what resulted in the discoveries.
The reason why Columbus was given credit was that they thought he was first, not because they knew he was second but had a larger impact.
Which is why today in 2019 Columbus is *not* given credit as the first European in the Americas.
The biggest difference with Columbus vs all other discoverers of the Americas is that Europe capitalized on his (re) discovery via colonization and massive economic investment which did not happen with the other discoverers. Why? I don't know and can only speculate as to why others did not capitalize on the Americas discovery prior to Columbus. What I do know is that Spain had just driven out the Moors needed new sources of economic capital and thus had a massive economic and political (European politics, al la Game of Thrones) reason to invest in the new world. Was Spain's support of Columbus prompted by the recollections of old maps and stories by those who had gone west and wrote or spoke of untouched lands, possibly. Regardless, of what one thinks of Columbus himself or his legacy, it was his (re) discovery and Spain's economic and political situation that prompted Europe to settle the New World for good or ill.
You must realised your comments because European Conolonized with MASSIVE DESTRUCTION TO HUMANITY AND OUR PLANET with SO CALLED ECONOMIC which it does NOT PROVIDE US NO POSITIVE RESULTS BY MODERN SLAVERY.
The Planet gave us all the NATURAL RESOURCES WE NEED FOR FREE WE DON'T need NO DISGRACE PAPER to buy anything....
Wake UP people!!! It just Governments MONOPOLY...
Yes, also, the colonization and explotation of Americas resources by europeans, is what really gives them the advantage to be unrival in the world. Prior to that, Europeans (after the romans) only held influence on the mediterrain at most outside the continent and even there, the muslims were winning the race
Jeremy Allexon I guess the reason Europe exploited the New World as opposed to every previous exploration and discovery of the continent is because Europe at the time were far more technologically advanced than the previous explorers such as the Norse Vikings and so they could use this tech to support their colonization efforts.
@@Dell-ol6hb I think the answer is more complex than that. Europe didnt have this intention of colonizing the americas in the beginning. In fact, the continent was a pian in the ass, something they desperately search for a passage to todays indonesia. They have the technology to sail in open ocean thanks to Portuguese advancements in sailing. But thats it. The nordics also could send a lot of colonies to north america to settle, but they decided to hold back. There is probably an answer already made by the historians. But my guess is that eventually, after exploring a way out to the unknow pacific, they witness local people wearing and using precious metals everywhere and also new resources (as tomatoes, sugar, etc).
"The biggest difference with Columbus vs all other discoverers of the Americas is that Europe capitalized on his (re) discovery via colonization and massive economic investment which did not happen with the other discoverers. Why?"
The world, the technology, the amount of resources at hand and the amount of people were vastly different in the time of the Polynesian visiting, the 1000's with the Norsemen and the 1400's with Columbus.
I'd say Columbus was an idiot since what he tried was to reach Asia, the Spanish rolled the dice with him (perhaps they, as you said, had some idea of land that way) and by a stroke of luck he found the Americas instead of dying in a Pacific-Atlantic super sea.
By another stroke of luck, this was now a time where the technology, population and economy could handle to start colonizing such a place.
Such is history a lot of the time.
7:24 ocean level was low enough for a land bridge . Than it was low enough to have more islands in the pacific .
. Making it easier for people in canoes to get across the ocean .
Sources? If that was the case then that would mean that they did it during the Ice Age which ended 11,000 years ago and it is suggested that the polynesians discovered America in the early CE.
o o - more they learn , the more they find out about how wrong they are
o o - 11,000 years ago , lost civilization of Atlantis ?
or maybe just small groups barely surviving .
@Kwok Yat Wai we dont know if it existed or not but there is pretty strong candidate by the name of the Richat Structure
To an extent weren’t oceans higher too?
Columbus should still be credited no matter who first discovered the land because he was the one who spread the news across the world.
No he was disgusting and Native Americans were already there
There is some evidence of Phoenicians here in Brazil, specifically in Rio de Janeiro where there is an inscription in a rock referencing some phoenician king and his son
There is also some evidence of the Phoenicians reaching the Namibian coast - coins, and the Cape south coast - planks of Cedrus libani + Khoisan rock drawing of a Phoenician style ship.This may vindicate Herodotuses story of the expedition sent by Egyptian King Necho 2.
the only evidence with phonicain theroy is well a lot of evidence has been disproven add on the reason the theory was created was as a way to explain large temples and cities because at the time they couldnt believe non whites could possibly build impressive structures. (So sadly that theory has been tainted which is sad because it seems very interesting !
Daniel Gandhi I am a Jewish Canadian. I know for a FACT that Phoenicians came across the Atlantic Ocean and over into the Gulf of Mexico on its North Side they found The Mississippi River. They Phoenicians had previously been there and up that river. 2700yrs ago, during the reigns of King David and his son, King Solomon they went WAAAY North up that River into what later became Canada. On the North Shore of there has been found Hebrew and Phoneician things. GOLD, SILVER and NICKLE. But they mined the first two as it was used for the VERY First Temple in Jerusalem, Isreal.
@@peterblahut5106 seems far fetched
@JP JP phoenicians are form Lebanon not Lisbon
People often miss the Inuit and proto-inuite migrations across the Bering straight into North America
That's because the Inuits are native Americans
The Inuit arrived much later than other native American groups and resemble native Siberians much more closely. In fact, the Viking settlements in Greenland were probably already on the way out by the time they arrived there.
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner!
Also the chukchee regularly went across the Bering strait for trade and raiding.
Yup. There were multiple waves of people moving across the Bering Strait after the initial colonization event, beginning with the initial speakers of Na-Dené languages and ending with the Inuit.
Ancient africans be like:
Let’s go to America,
Winds in my area
jajlertil no
@@mykie1795 no
No
Nein
that’s fucking racist
"but first, before we do that, I want to take a look at the geography, hope you don't mind" my guy, that's the only reason we're here /light-hearted
No sida
While the Romans were iffy at best when it came to ocean sailing (the calmness of the Mediterranean will do that to a civilization), Augustus did want a circumnavigation of the African landmass, so it's not completely out of the question that they could have made it to somewhere in the Americas, albeit completely unintentionally. Given that they probably wouldn't have known where they were, had they managed to make it back, it'd probably just be a side note of some island without much value, and not discussed in much detail -- consider the general Roman disinterest in Ireland.
That said, given how wildly talented the Polynesians were at seafaring, I'd honestly be more surprised if they somehow only made it to the likes of Easter Island without finding the mainland continent, and seems a lot more likely than a Roman ship making its way over.
Prove it. otherwise you are a liar....
which section do you want proven
*roasting columbus for 14 minutes straight*
He has been "roasted" for > 500 years!
He was a slaver, a pimp, a torturer, and a murderer. No criticism of him can be too harsh.
Columbus was a murderer who also enslaved people.
There is so much evidence that people from all around the world have been coming to the Americas for thousands of years before Columbus. I believe the finding of coca in Egyptian mummies was mentioned in a previous video and there is some debate around when and from where chickens reach South America. I hope there is a follow up video on this topic as there is so much to discuss about it. Keep up the good work, I'm really glad I subscribed a few days ago.
The coca leales thing has been debunked: It's native african coca
The chickens were brought by Spanish and the araucana is a breed the locals created themselves from a mutation found in that group for blue eggs and a lack of tales.
@@_robustus_ some chickens were brought by Polynesians . Polynesian reaching south america and trading with the Mapuche was proved a decade ago
Search "mocha island" in chile, that'll show you some interesting stuff
They found skulls that “look” polynesian but nothing conclusive yet.
Yeah at one point (1860s) local Egyptian street vendors would dig up mummies and sell them on the streets because mummies were exotic and a cool party prop for European elites. That's one way the coca could have gotten their. I sure wouldn't want to sell dead people while sober lol
Just throwing my hat in the ring, saying that humans had a much bigger and way more casual exchange back then, than we can or want to believe.
i thought you were gonna mention the Malian expedition and the (supposed) Malian ship and artifacts found at the mouth of the Amazon.
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Where is the baobab wood?
If he mentioned any nation that wasn't from europe he'd get downvoted into oblivion
How can u discover land people already lived on
Easy: by thinking that the people who already live there are less human than you or not human at all. The myth of Columbus "discovery" of America just shows how self-absorbed and delusional Europe was during it's period of colonial expansion. What really baffles me is that so many people still believe in this myth, since It is so easily disproven by logical thinking.
It simple dude, it's just a shortened way of saying the European discovery of the Americas. Obviously people already lived there, no one denies that, but in essence actual recorded history of the Americas is a European thing, so it is their discovery of it that is remembered because its the one that was written down. Also this is the discovery that had the largest impact on the world. So while they weren't the first people there, they were the ones who discovered it, bringing it into the history books.
You go see something you never saw before and anyone you knew didn't know about it either.
CBBoswell it wasn’t all of Europe that false it was Spain and Portugal that founded the voyages to America which were mainly in South America and Caribbean. Yes it was also a Spaniard who was the first step foot on North America which was even 100 yrs before the British actually had its first colony. All the claims Columbus step foot on north America are also false as well, he only went as far as Central America and the Caribbean.
One of the most important is actually who America is named after Americo Vespucci was the first to actually map out all the land of America and the only one to actually see all of America. But he actually never lived in any part of America, he went back to Italy to live after his work that Spain founded.
If you'd listen, he says discovery from thw odl world into the new world, and discovery can be done on something that people already know about as well, I can discover America if people live there if I previously did not know about it
Love the video but I wish you had mentioned the Malian fleet led by Abubakari II recorded by Al Umari.
Indeed, although he very probably never reached half the voyage
Love your discord, even tho I'm a lurkboi
I don't think he knows that Africa had civilizations. given his African geography video.
@@theghosthero6173 I think there's more evidence of the Malian voyage than the this supposed Roman voyage that I'd never heard of
@@lilcorsam2242 what evidence is their for Mali actually? Nothing as been found in the Americas that elude to them, no linguistic, archeological, no DNA traces, nothing. The fleet never returned and could very well simply have been lost at sea. We don't know a lot about western African vessel as much as we do about Swahili ones, but it's clear they weren't as strong. In my eyes it's either a legend meant to teach a lesson to the reader of the tale, a false account to cover an historical event we don't know, or a real fleet that got lost at sea.
Still mad respect for past navigators who risk their life navigating across those deep bodies of water.
"How did you find America?"
"Turn left to Greenland."
Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha
Got that reference
@@colenoblit6129 John Lennon? XD
tonzze Yep, from a pan interview of them entering the U.S. George Harrison also referred to his hairstyle as Arthur.
Really very interesting theories! I am not a Geography expert but appreciate that the researchers had done a great job on it. I also read the comments that a few others explorers were left out by the producer of this series. A sequel to it will be highly appreciated. Thanks so much for sharing such wonderful videos.
I'm delighted you mentioned Saint Brendan and Tim Severin's voyage. Saint Brendan is said to be from County Kerry, the same county in Ireland that I'm from.
I have an old documentary about Australian Aborigines voyaging to South America: it said that the native people of Tierra Del Fuego looked more like native Australians than they did other South American peoples, and that blood taken from the last surviving people matched native Australia blood groups more then it did other South Americans.
But the continents are so huge that I could well believe that every theory is true - people from all over could have discovered them a hundred times over thousands of years.
Aborigines never voyaged.
@@raulmenedez2427 - Your sources for that statement?
3:40 - That Irish way of writting with lines is actually reminescent of the Quipu: An ancient south American way of writing with strings (Physical lines instead of ingraved ines)
Are you suggesting contact between the Medieval Irish and the Andean civilizations?
Quipus are really only superficially similar. They weren't used for writing exactly, but as a data recording system for numerical record-keeping. They are more more similar to a semasiographic system - comparable to something like musical notation or road signs, but it lacks many of the characteristics of a "full" writing system.
Plus, they are really old. Like, potentially thousands of years old. If anything the influence should be the other way around.
Thing is Ogham didn't necessarily have those lines. Sometimes they did, but mainly the 'lines' that connect the script were actually just the edges of the stones they would carve the notches into (but there are some examples with the connecting lines, it just doesn't seem to be common). The through line is only regular in modern Unicode Ogham, which is designed for print and computers
@@davidrosner6267 - I wasn't suggesting anything but even less that. But it shows that similar forms of writtings can spring up without a common ancestor; so those lines in North-America might not have anything to do neither with the Iris script nor the Inca Quipu...But it was an interesting similarity.
Just Google Ogham and you'll immediately debunk those markings. Historical Ogham was mainly written as a series of notches along the edges of standing stones, not in a line fashion on surfaces. That type of Ogham was invented in the last half century to display Ogham in Unicode for computers as a method of translation and preservation. So either those markings are recent fakes, a different non-Irish system or just a bunch of pretty lines
he mentioned this being unique to the Celts, but honestly it's just a bunch of lines, it could be anything
Abubakari Keita II, Sultan of Mali embarked on an expedition to explore the limits of the Atlantic Ocean, and never returned. He was uncle of Mansa Musa, wealthiest individual of the middle ages.
@Gordon Brown nah
@Gordon Brown they reached there
@Gordon Brown urs too my brother
@Gordon Brown That's actually not true, West Africans carved really large ships capable of holding up to 80 men. And some sailing. In fact the Kru people were such good sailors, the Europeans named them Kru based on the word "crew". They were also very resistant to slavery so instead Europeans and Kru people traded sailing labor for other goods.
@Gordon Brown Or they were stuck in South America? The wind lead them to Modern Brasil, but they would have to travel thousands of km to find a different trade wind.
Great video! Given that Polynesian's colonized Easter Island, it seems pretty reasonable to assume they made it to other parts of South America. Likewise, it's pretty Eurocentric and frankly racists to think that no one from the western most parts of Africa made it to the eastern most parts of South America. People are people the world over. We discover new lands and resources.
The story of the Inca Tupac Yupanqui (emperor of the incas of south América) discovering the polynesia, leaving even a temple in the Easter Island (Ahu Vinapu) is amazing to me. Theres an Island on Mangareva where people still talk about a king called like Tupa (as of Tupac) and their god called Kom Tiki was taught by Tupac (Viracocha the incas god was also called like that). Theres also potatoes, skuls and chickens found in Chile that come from the polynesia meaning that they also reached the country several times. The globalization is just older than we thought
I swear you went from like 40K to over 200. Keep up these crazy well produced videos
Lol that's because he did. I commented on one of his videos when he had just 12K subscribers. Within a month of that, he had 200K.
Irish person here to tell you that you pronounced Ogham wrong. The correct way to say it is "Ooom" like "Foam" without the F. Great video as always, keep up the good work :]
@truth seeker Wow, well you sure have a lot of ideas there don't you. I don't know why I'm wasting my time responding to this nonsense but here we go lol.
1.'The original Irish were KILLED off by your Protestant ancestors like Cromwell'
So your first point is not correct and that can be established easily enough through reference to the modern DNA to the people in most rural area of the country.
2.'The Irish ogham writing is the same as Igbo column writing in Africa and do you think that's a coincidence.'
It's likely that there are some superficial similarities between ancient writing systems given the fact that Ogham is similar to many Celtic scripts across Europe. There were many celts in Italy and other such places that may have spread the script through trade but as you have provided no source to anything that you have said then that's all
i'll say here.
3.'FIRST the melanated Catholics ran off the ancient melanated population out of Ireland and then Cromwell killed those Catholics and deported the rest to the Americas and those Catholics could be seen in black Russian icons of the Byzantines and their descendents could be seen in places like Montserrat in the Carribean where their ancestors were deported to. Modern Irish are slavs'
Nonsense.
I read once that the Polynesians could predict where islands were by 'reading' the subtle waves that accompany the larger waves. I believe that they didn't need charts or navigation aids because they just sailed right to the island of choice. Better than GPS!
As a person who knows a lot about linguistics I can confirm that the Polynesian word for sweet potato being such an obvious borrowing from a Peruvian language is undeniable proof of contact between the two.
also art, and (less disputably) genetics
@@ianism3 There was a study done on the genetics a couple years ago and I believe they found small traces of Native American DNA dating back to more or less a thousand years ago in a large handful of Polynesians on every island they tested. Polynesians were truly inspiring explorers.
The Antarticans discovered the Americas.. They brought the snow we have now.
That doesnt make sense
@@artilleryfire6576 r/wooooosh
@@oceantaleroleplaysans3.030 its 4 o's, not 5
Antarctica was once 2500 miles to the north and it was called aztlan " the white island" and it was inhabited by people around 300000 years ago by homo sapiens
@@feereel Yeah, I remember that..
3:54 These are tool shaping and resharpening marks. I work as an archaeologist out in the West, and these are fairly common in some areas. Usually, it involves shaping and maintaining bone, antler, and wood tools.
Thanks!
The reason why we say that Columbus discovered America is that, until then, all previous visitors had no notion of cosmography and didn’t understand where they had arrived. The Vikings might have arrived in New Foundland & further but they didn’t understand that was another continent nor did they reveal their finding to the rest of the World. Before you jump in to say that Columbus confused America with Asia you should be aware that it was his cartographer, Juan de la Cosa (sorry, not Vespucci, he learned this from de la Cosa) who realized that the new lands were indeed another continent, a fact that Columbus had to grudgingly accept in the end because all his promises he had made to the Crown and investors could not be honored.
Desde España. Gracias alguien que sabe de lo que habla. Ahí va mi like.
Thank you for not using the stereotypical viking helmet with horns. You have my respect for that. The story behind those helmets would be an interesting one, though i imagine it's beyond the scope of this channel.
www.thevintagenews.com/2016/07/11/horned-helmets-worn-many-peoplebut-not-vikings-surviving-examples-elaborate-helms-horns/2
Ffs everyone now knows it's a misconception. No one thinks vikings had horns anymore. It's been mainstream knowledge for years. You're not any more special for knowing it
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Wow, hostile much?
I didn't think that it wasn't common knowledge. It just gets frustrating when it is used as the common incorrect epresentation for a rather deep and interesting culture. I was merely appreciating his use of something more accurate, and would enjoy his style in describing this cultural icon.
@@_robustus_ I actually used that article when writing about this in my history class. Those Japanese antlers look pretty cool, though unwieldy
The comment section did not disappoint, kept me laughing and entertained for at least 25 minutes during this quarantine.
@NATHANIEL AMAYA Please enlighten me on why you consider me a "typical American" by my comment.
Im surprised you didn't mention the English/Portuguese fisherman theory. John Cabot literally receiving a letter that talked about his discovery as if it had happened before, massive hauls of Cod coming into England even though their supply was cutoff, stuff like that. Certainly has me sold.
All this discoveries make me really hope that time machine exist so we can learn every detail that happen throughout the history. But of course the time machine should only be build to learn the past not change them
time machines or atleast time travellers cant exist as no one went too steven hawkings party
Time machine exists within. Your DNA is embedded with years of ancestral memory. We lost our way with our spirituality and traded it in for Materialism and vanity. We strayed from the path of nature and into the world technology
Yeah, at this point it's starting to look like Columbus was the LAST guy in the world to discover America.
i watched the whole video and you did sort of cover this but wanted to say anyway. There is a difference between "wholly discovering something with intent" and "accidentally stumbling upon some land, taking the equivalent of a selfy and then returning without realising the magnitude or classifying to anyone what you did , or dying".
Otherwise you could argue electricity was discovered by a guy who scratched his head then touched his friend giving him a brief shock.
There have been various skeletal remains found throughout North and South America that seem to predate the Clovis people, supposedly the first to inhabit those continents.
keyword: FIRST
everyone for some reason thinks that means he didn't discover it
Columbus DID discover America.
If I'm traveling around looking for a certain location but find a different location instead, a location I had no knowledge of before, I DISCOVERED that location.
dis·cov·er
verb
to find (something or someone) unexpectedly or in the course of a search.
To discover something does not mean it did not exist before you came upon it nor does it mean that someone else didn't discover it before you.
History books were not wrong nor misleading about this fact. Y'all just don't grasp the English language apparently.
He discovered it for himself, sure. The problem is the Doctrine of Discovery, which basically states that Europeans had the right to claim the land because it was considered uninhabited. Basically “finders keepers”. The Europeans considered Indigenous peoples to be wildlife, not people, and that stereotype continues today. Saying someone “discovered” America continues that stereotype. Words evolve and they are not neutral. More accurate to say Columbus arrived in America and made modern Europeans aware of it.
@@katherinegilks3880 yes words evolve but the definition of "discover" has remained the same 🙄 so no, it is not more accurate to say he "arrived".
just because yall are uneducated and misunderstand the meaning of a word doesnt make the statement less accurate
@@vidaliatheonionqueen From your comment, it is clear that you are less educated on this than I am, so let me teach you. The definition of the word may not have changed, but the connotation has. Rather, the connotation has always been there as I mentioned in my previous comment, but it is now being recognised as wrong. (Wrong as in both morally and logically wrong, not simply wrong as incorrect.) Just because a definition stays the same, or appears to do so because of the dictionary, doesn't mean that the meaning doesn't change or that a secondary meaning doesn't become more popular. Also, with a language as widespread as English, words have different meanings to different peoples and the dictionary doesn't capture that. Take the word "kid" - it means "baby goat" but now means "child" or even "young person". In NA anyhow, if I ask you if you have any kids, you don't assume I am referring to goats. (It isn't even seen as an informal word, like it is in some other places. Then you get to other places where English is more recent and "kids" just means children except in the dictionary.)
Why are you so hung up on Columbus? Why is it important that he did or didn't "discover" anything? His voyages had a big impact on global politics, economy, and climate, among other things. His arrival in America is still a big deal. It just shouldn't be celebrated, since part of that big deal was a genocide and mass death of millions of people. He certainly never set foot in the US.
@@katherinegilks3880 youre wrong and im not going to sit here and write out why. no one implied he jad the right to do anything because he discovered america. that is your irrational twisted interpretation of whats been said.
im not hung up on Columbus. the more important question is why do ypu people always resort to accusing people of being "hung up" or obsessed with something just because they take some time to discuss it or point something out about it 🙄🤦♀️💁♀️
Even before the Vikings, or the Romans the IRISH came. I knew it!
O'Merica! 🤣🍀😛
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It's a bit iffy.
The roman theories are complete and utter bull and the stories about irish and scottish sailors are slightly more plausible but not credible.
surprised you didn't mention the waccamaw and duhare with ireland or that malian king who went out to explore the atlantic with 2,000 boats who never came back
edit: duhare was a waccamaw tribe in south carolina that were white and had orange hair, who also used the writing style he talked about in the video
Barbara Rizzo I believe they also spoke Irish which is very interesting
@@jimbomacers 2000 ships i'm sure some made it
It’s funny that genetic testing doesn’t seem to support that idea in South Carolina.
James McDonagh when did they arrive?
I wish you would talk more about the Middle East. I'm from Lebanon, and our culture and geography is so interesting. For example, many Lebanese deny to be Arabs and instead opt to say " Phoenician'. Whilst ignoring the Language we speak, and the centuries of colonization and conquering by so many empires. It would awesome for you to speak on it.
Well phonecians are a form of Canaanite and will be more semitic or Hebrew than an Arab
Current Lebanese are all either french or Greek. You are no where near Arab or Canaanite
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Current Lebanonese are mixed
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Phonecians are mixed
@@mhd2680 they are fully mixed brother
I have been telling my students they need to keep learning after they are done with school. The history they were taught will change.
I totally believe that polynesians discover American first by boats, im not Polynesians but im Austronesians, most group of Austronesians have typical and numerous types of boat. And Austronesians also are master seafarers and master of sea navigator, look at Madagascar, Austronesians discover Madagascar first by sailing boats from Borneo thousand kilometres to Madagascar, its also possibly can happen to polynesians sailing boat to American. And also the Easter island (Rapa Nui) is close to mainland South America, its very possible that polynesians had arrived first to South America by boats.
Yea as a Native Hawaiian I 100% believe that Polynesians could have made it
@@MrHistory269 love Hawaii and Hawaiian ❤️
Farmosan, Malay-polynesians(malayic, chamic, philipine, south sulawesi, celebic, central nuclear MP, javanese and palauan), oceanic (Malanesian, Micronesian and Polynesian), we all Austronesia and Austronesians love all....
MrHistory808 given that native Americans blood is found in Polynesia.... the question is which way did the genes flow. The latest two studies argue for native Americans reaching an already populated eastern Polynesia. Either way, it is wonderful to see the contact between Polynesians and native Americans.
Africa, the first continent, has never been discovered. How do you discover an inhibited continent?
History was written by the victors ,giving their accounts.
Mister BK Exactly, u can’t discover where people have already been, you’ve just been somewhere new
Didn't the Arabs and Persians trade with them before the Europeans
The D storm more than likely they are pretty close geographically so it makes sense. Especially off da east coast
@@thedstorm8922 Well ofc the Arabs and Persians traded with Africans... Most of the Arabs 2000+ years ago would have been mostly black. It wasn't until the middle east was conquered by the Europeans and Turks that they got a light complexion.
You should know that there are cases of fishermen from Cape Verde landing on Brasil after getting troubled with their boats , normaly after a few weeks lost at sea.
I remember seeing a documentary one time about this subject. There was also a site in Peru (I think) that they found skeletons that had some sort of strain of the flu or cold or something that was only found in two places in the world: that small population in South America and on an island in Japan.
I mean the sweet potato was a staple of polynesian diet and that came from the americas
Imagine an alternate timeline where the Vikings kept going and started a settlement in America and word of the new world kicked off way earlier
The industrial revolution may have happened sooner and our life currently could be very different possibly even more advanced we could mayb have flying cars in 2020!
@@paemonyes8299 totally goofy
I need to unlearn and relearn History.Thank you for sharing.
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@@karenneizman2799 are u ok?
The guy that discovered America was the one that, one day was going from Florida to Africa and said "whoa! Who put this water here?"
I've heard of coca plant found in Egyptian mummies.
I heard of Egyptians dancing salsa. Or Arabs listening to Despacito. That means Arabs discovered USA. Makes a lot of sense to believe lies. You dummy.
@Barbara Mulvaney - Guys say a lot of lies to exalt their country or culture. But their culture stinks anyway. Their culture Stink like their lies too.
@Veran Dass - Just hit 68 years old in March. LOL. This is me on my moto in NJ visit . i cross the river often from my PA, USA. ua-cam.com/video/Svir-m2tbSQ/v-deo.html
@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC You are one shallow minded dumbass
@@jordyv.703 Im a flight instructor that have flown The 3 American Continents as a Commercial Pilot, dumb lady..
Thank you for including South America when mentioning the closest Romans got to America. Very few people actually get that “America” or “Americas” stand for the landmasses of North and South America.
Of course. Nowadays it’s common to use “American” when referring to residents of the United States of America. Calling the US “America”, however, results in quite of bit of ambiguity and, to an extent, disregard to the other countries in the Americas.
america is a continent, not a country.
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That’s exactly what I said.
@@rodrigorosatoalves agree
@@physicalivan
Lol nice
You forgot the best part about the Irish discovery event/ myth event it's the fact that they supposedly did it in a animal skin boat and then that guy in the 70s did it just to prove it could be done.
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And that Columbus stopped of in Galway and he was told st Brendan was already there
for those curious, there is a doco called "cocaine mummies" where traces of tobacco leaves (along with other plants from the Americas) were found in wrappings of Egyptian mummies. Good watch for people who like a show that raises questions. It was a while ago that I watched it so I don't remember all the details in the show
debunked, you can easily look this up.
@@eeeaten yes 👍💯🧾 proof Debunked
The Polynesians sailed the entire Pacific. I have no doubt in my mind that many of them sailed to the end of the pacific and landed on the Americas
Indubidly.
They did not sail the entire Pacific. The Pacific Ocean is half of the entire planet. And the Polynesians stuck to the east and central Pacific.
@@marceloorellana5726 thats because theres no major islands east of hawaii that that could support an entire culture of people. I guarantee they didnt get to hawaii and said theres nothing left to be found East of Hawaii. How about you do research before making false ignorant claims 🤷🤣
@@marceloorellana5726 yeah.... except there are artistic and sculptural similarities between them and some south/central american traditions, and it's recently been shown that there was genetic interchange about 1000 years ago.
@@marceloorellana5726 wrong try again 🤣