Reaction to Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers. Epic Rap Battles of History
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2021
- Reaction to Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers. Epic Rap Battles of History
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Is that the guy who won like 20 freestyle fridays back in the day. I think his name was gin
One really hard bar from the East is "You owe your students here an apology". See, "The Apology" is the name of Socrates' last work before he was forced to commit suicide by drinking hemlock. His "Apology" was a huge F-you to the citizens of Athens, who were the ones forcing him to suicide. So the bar is saying "you need to go kill yourself". All that said, I want to give this narrowly to the West, for Nietzsche's energy and Voltaire's nice cracks against the East.
Just a small correction - Socrates believed true philosophy couldn't be written - the Apology is a work of Plato, Socrates' arguably most important student
Sun Tzu was the "leader" of the Eastern rappers, like Socrates was of the Western ones...so they made it equal that those two were the ones that just started tearing into their teammates.
This isn't some of ERB's best writing, but it's probably the most realistic depiction of how the people would act towards each other. These guys did all heavily dislike each other's writing IRL, esp Nietzsche
Yeah they all brought their world views to this battle
Also was their anything nietzche didn’t like
This was very well written, but I don’t believe they were going for the normal rap battle since they wanted to have their “What is winning?” Joke at the end which is the perfect way to end the battle of philosophers.
ERB has gotten insane with their writing in more recent battles though
Philosophers always argue with one another. It's kind of the entire point of philosophy.
7:20 I fucking loved it.
"Let me be Frank,
"Dont start a beef with the Frank"
Oh..
"Who hangs with B. Franks"
OH...
"Giving ladies beef franks"
*tosses headphone, looks away, cant even*
The bowl thing is pretty simple - bowls are most useful when empty is a metaphor about opportunities (which sun tzu just noted they had.)
An opportunity is most useful before you take it. It's important to ensure that you make maximum use of the opportunity because once taken, it's gone. If you're lazy and sloppy and don't make the most of it, too late, it's gone.
I think the "East infections" is meant along the lines of Yeast Infections. Yeah....
It was also a derogatory term used many years ago by westerners who felt too many Asians were immigrating to the US.
I thought it was a reference to the Plague
The Black Plague was thought to originate in China in rats on ships. Not sure if that’s still the case.
@@toddchavez8274 Could be.
You recognized Sun Tzu because he was played by Timothy DeLa Ghetto and yes, he does a lot of skits as well as some rap songs. He was also a common fixture on Fine Bros. Reaction compilations. MC Jin played Confuscious. Lao Tzu was played by KRNFX (Korean FX), a very talented beat-boxer.
To give some context to Voltaire's verses, the man published over 20,000 various documents during his lifetime. He was also something of a manwhore and is currently believed to have been bisexual, so it wasn't just women gracing his bed. The B. Franks reference was Benjamin Franklin, who was a friend of Voltaire's when the former was overseas. Voltaire fell from grace when he and another person decided to rig a lottery, stealing large amounts of money, and they got caught.
Well, a bowl that is filled is less useful, because it's already in use. The more that's already inside, the less you can put into it anymore.
It's already serving its purpose.
uGh LaO tSu I dOnT mEaN nO dIsReSpEcT bUt YoU nEeD tO fIlL yOuR bOwL wItH sOmE sHiT tHaT mAkEs SoMe SeNsE
@The Bog 'Ole It also raises the question whether or not something loses its usefullness once it fulfills its purpose, because there's less potential for alternative uses
@The Bog 'Ole But a desk has other uses as well. Very common uses, such as writing and working on it. A bowl's purpose is to hold things.
Maybe its usefullness could be defined by its contents. Does it need to hold what's inside it, or could it be contained somewhere else, making way for more things to be held?
Bar for bar, not the best ERB has written.
BUT when you consider.... The different CADENCE for each rapper, rapping in the PHILOSOPHY STYLE of each one of these great thinkers, switches of beats, creativity to reflect the PERSONALITY of each philosopher in relationship to each other AND the creativity of breaking a "battle" down in to the "mindset of conflict" for everyone involved?
This is one of THE BEST (If not the absolute best) ERB battles released to date.
And, I may be wrong but wasn't it one of the first weird Al joined? I know he's done a few since then.
@@michellamoureuxm If not the 'first', it was one of the first 5 at least. I'm sure he did a few here and there but remained "behind the scenes" to get a feeling for the production "vibe" before going all out.
Nahhh it was written well
"A bowl is most useful when it is empty". He was telling Sun Tzu not to mess with what they had going, since he said 'this is our opportunity', as leaving the westerners to bicker would leave them open to react as needed, as an empty bowl can be used for many things so long as it is not currently in use with one.
6:58 The Enlightenment was a period of European history that came after the Renaissance. It saw the creation of Protestantism and liberal ideas. A big idea was that your relationship with God is personal and not something that's other people's business (like the Catholic Church). Another big idea was that all humans had certain rights and that royalty was not divinely chosen by God, but rather normal people who happened to have lots of land and money. The Enlightenment inspired the French Revolution and the American Founding Fathers (and thus the American Constitution and the American Revolution).
I think that the eastern philosophers did slightly better because they had more insults that hit a bit harder. The western philosophers had more that were more plays on words making fun of eastern cultures generally.
The western philosophers brought about a time in history called the enlightenment, and yes, it had a lot to do with western medicine. You're not far off, but a bit more history knowledge will give you way more respect for these lines.
Still can't help but get chills with that voice of his
Here's a thought: Nobody won.
Okay let me explain this more thoroughly. So in a team battle you're supposed to work together to beat the opponents but when you start infighting then you've basically lost because you couldn't stay together which gives your opponents the opportunity to finish you off (see what I did there?). However if the opposite team does the exact same thing and starts infighting too they lose as well as they couldn't stick together. Therefore neither side wins. They both lost.
I know some people would say "So in other words they tied" this is not the case though. I think for a tie to happen both sides would have had to have an equal amount of disses and work together throughout the whole thing and if everything falls apart at the end on both sides there can't be a winner or a tie as they didn't work together at the end of it.
I've noticed after watching these rap battles over the years that when it's a one-on-one battle, one person is trying to dismiss the other through sarcasm, put-downs, and tends to use a lot of wordplay. The other person is going for the jugular and hitting them with lethal bars because they want to destroy them. This was different as a group battle, but ERB did a great job with each person taking on the opponents then turning on each other.
Sun Tzu was a founder of the legendary Sun family of ancient china, later the family would found the Kingdom of Wu after the fall of the Han Dynasty. Of the 3 Kingdoms that rose in this period Wu was the one that lasted longest. The plot of Dynasty Warriors involves these events
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A foolish man complains about his torn pocket , but a smart man uses it to scratch his balls - Tsun Tzu
I feel like Nietzsche is the only person who could come out spelling his name and have it be intimidating.
Love this one and the meta commentary at the end.
~_~
Hey at some point please react to D-low’s judge showcase for the international throwdown it is some of the best freestyled beatboxing ever!
Laozi was the father of a philosophy called the Tao, which can be translated as "The Way." It was about going with the flow, so he's the perfect enemy for Nietzsche, who was all about control. I just love "I'll make ya move, bitch. Get out The Way!"
The same way Voltaire and Confucius are perfect enemies; Confucius was about respecting authority, while Voltaire was about questioning it.
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Before I saw the "Harry Potter vs Luke Skywalker" ERB, this was the best one IMHO. The group rap battles are very hard to orchestrate, but they did a great job with this one.
that SARS bar didn't age well lol
The crazy concept of the 🥣 being empty, meaning you always have an open (unfilled bowl) opportunity to everything in life, rather it being full and not have anything else to fill it up with. 🤨 but yeah at the end of the day, it’s all perspective.
That 'frank' scheme is one of the nastiest sequences I've seen in a while
This was funny. 👍😂
that b frank svheme was hard
The sun bar was also a play on the nation of Japan which is also called the Empire of the Sun
East infections was also likely meant to sound like yeast infections by the way. Just as an extra savage lines.
Listen here, as a ginger i can say for damn sure, i need spf 1000 just to look at the moon in a goddamn picture
Curse of the Irish. I go outside I go up like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
I'm always afraid to wear skirts, dresses or shorts, because I fear that I might blind people.
If you look in the background you'll see Sun Tzu sneaking around when the Western Philosophers are battling each other
Hahaha he did come in with that deep ass voice
if there's one erb I'd reccomend its babe ruth vs lance armstrong its pretty savage
What kind of idiot would actually think that a bowl is most useful when it's empty
Bowls aren't collecting tools they are containing tools
Meaning that a bowl is most useful when it's holding something that couldn't be normally held by a person
Like liquids or really hot food
The Law of Philosophic Conservation: For every philosopher, there is an equal and opposite philosopher.
I can imagine how many times they had to pull out these poses and face expressions and trying to sound like there character
hey Dave probably didn't realise but between 5:28 - 5:45 (of your video) that is actually somebody beatboxing that break beat!
I noticed haha.
You should react to Hymn of Acxiom by Vienna Tang. The studio version.
Although the live version does explain what the song is about pretty well
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I’ve unbanned you don’t worry. I think you got banned cause I said I didn’t want any more links until I was down with the current set. If you kept olpostinf more links after I said that, that’s probably why you got banned.
@@whatitdodave thank you sir and I had shared one link before hand and thats when you said to hold links till ready and I said I have plenty to share then was banned but thank you and hope to see your videos again
Let me Be Frank (honest)
Don't start beef with THE FRANK (Frenchman)
Who hangs with B.Franks (Ben Franklin)
Givin ladies beef franks!!! (That DDD)
an empty bowl can hold anything while a full bowl is just a bowl of what it is filled with, but a bowl is always full at all times.
What do philosophers call a fight....a debate.
Sir Isaac Newton Vs. Bill Nye
Newton is played by a special guest :D
Also yea... that B. Frank scheme was nutty
Wu was the name of a state in China during the warring states period. Idk the connection to tzu though
Socrates was referring to the Socratic Method.
At least there's one thing I'm sure of: and that's how to spell Nietzsche's name properly.
Nietzhces's idea of the ubermensch, wasn't like the nazis. His was exclusively the transcendent man through wisdom, regardless of colour or creed. A common misunderstanding.
That’s weird al lol
'Shiny bright Enlightenment' comes from Voltaire, who helped bring on the Age of Enlightenment
b.franks is benjamin franklin he was good friends with him
This is a long battle with 3 bars each
I think this is probably one of their best just in terms of being thematic. There were battles that went harder or flowed better, but you can tell they really enjoyed this theme and had wayyy too many bars written to ever fit in their normal battle format/length.
ying and yang was due to confucius being about order and duty
while lau sy being about chaos and go with the flow
two oposites
shiny bright enlighterment
the enlighterment its a period in the 18th century where human rights were debated in philosaphy right to freedom of speech right to life and liberty their enlighterment values voltair was one the enlighterment thinkers who infulenced america
The angrier, meaner western for me. Socrates specifically
East is good and clever but they feel smug
Nobody wins thats the point if philosophy
Spf 1000
OMG
Timothy Delagotto
Let me be frank (honest)
Don’t start beef with the frank (he’s French)
Who hangs with B Frank’s (Benjamin Franklin)
Giving ladies beef franks(he was a prolific lover)
0:40 Timothy De La Ghetto. 🙄
No, he is Sun Tzu one of the greatest generals in China.
In history
Should have had Buddha
socrates i cant say much on i know his students work but not muc of his own
niechie has his name defamed alot now because the narzis ideolised every german hiustorical figure inckuding niechie but his ideals are abouyt controling your life that their is no god or fate you write your life
voltair is a enlighterment thinker who was friends with the founding fathers so american constitutional stuff
confusious is the obey law follow order the overly family based duty chinese culture comes from him
lao su is the founder of toism so follow the flow sort of life will give u what u need
sun tzu was a genral who wrote a book called art of war which is famous today as a guide to conflict including leadership and buisness its a strategy book dipped in philosaphy
Critical thinking still wins.