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CLOG3 and Correct Exposure CANON R6
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2022
- In the world of video, there are many different ways to expose your footage. Some people like to shoot in log and then color grade, some prefer to shoot standard video and then do their own color grading. I have always been a fan of shooting in CLOG because it gives you an extra stop of dynamic range and more control over your highlights and shadows. That extra stop of light is highly sought after when doing video work and color grading.
I will show you two different ways to set proper exposure: one using only built-in camera tools of the Canon R6 and one using a little more advanced technique using a grey card a Ninja V and false colors.
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Its actually best to expose as bright as possible without clipping. And bring it down to desired levels in post - much cleaner this way, clog3 loves overexposing. You can use these same reference levels to onow what to bring it down to, or just eyeball it.
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Man god bless you. So informative and helpful. Wish you best things in your life and success on UA-cam ❤
The nicest comment ever 🙏❤️ I’m so grateful. Tyvm
Can't wait to try it during the wekkend !!!!! thx for all the informations Per, really appreciated.
It’s genuinely my pleasure 👍❤️ Just let me know if I can help with anything
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I’m just getting started with Canon CLOG3 video using an R6MkII for wildlife and outdoor scenic shooting and after trying Zebra stripes with gray card I find I get better overall exposure of outdoor scenes by using the camera’s false color rendering. I have used the custom button settings to allow me to toggle false color on/off with the DOF preview button on the front of the camera.
Great input Teddy, thank you for sharing. I love both zebra and false colors. They are both amazing for different type of scenes. How do you like that R6MkII?
@@persvanstrom The R6mkII w. RF 100-500mm is amazing compared to the 50D w. 70-200mm 2.8 IS + 2x I had been using. I delayed upgrading to mirrorless until pro-level features trickled down to the prosumer price point I could justify for recreational shooting and the R6MkII was worth the wait.
@@persvanstrom I switched from R6 to R6II. a lot of improvements in picture quality (details, sharpen, colors too). Record time in 4K is now enough, r6 with 25 minutes wasn't. also have ninja V and start shooting raw. If you can switch - you'll be happy)
@@andrewklyuchnyk1619 I got 2xC70 for video now, so use them mostly for anything video, but I plan to upgrade my R6 to what ever follows the R5 and get two of those or pair it with one R6M2. Depends on what Canon brings us. What are your guess? R5m2 or an R1?
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Really helpful!
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At higher frame rates I use a 360 deg shutter since they don't get motion blur.
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Hello :) Is its possible to do exposition with the gray card outdoor ? Or prefer choose histogramme ? 🙏
You can definitely use it outdoor 👍 I use several combinations.
How do you expose it correctly say during sunrise or sunset? Or if I’m filming wildlife? I struggle with this. If I set my shutter to double the frame rate and base iso at 800 and my aperture wide open it will come out under exposed. So I will turn the iso up and it seems to add noise in the shadows. I’m not sure what to do about this. Can anyone offer some advice? Thanks
great video but what would be the difference in the false color values when shooting in clog3 compared to shooting in rec709? Isn't the recommended way in clog3 to shoot 1 stop over and lower it in post, that way getting less noise in the shadows? What would be one stop over in the false color values?
I don’t feel I get more noise and as 18% grey never change, this is how I prefer to do it as a rule of thumb. You?
@@persvanstrom I have to do some tests. I normally don't shoot on clog3 but just in rec709 but when I have, I feel I under exposed it a bit and I need to bring it up and see more noise than if I raise a same exposed shot but in rec709. I have watched a lot of people recommend to over expose the shot by 1 or 2 stops when using clog3 so that the shadows are more exposed and then in post you bring them down to the level that would have been exposed in rec709 and that would get similar results.
Can you please or explain a video Bout difference in zebra 1 and 2 values and how to use both in shooting?
I'll see what I can do 😉 but in short, there is no difference, just that they cover different ranges.
One could be for skin tones and the second for exposure as an example
Why does the black color appear with white dots? Is this due to low lighting, and what is better in the studio bt2020?
good stuff!
Much appreciated 🙏🧡
Great Video... Have just started using C-log3. What is your advice for exposing 'run and gun'. For example, exposing correctly for a shot facing one direction... but then when you change direction... or you go from inside to out. How do you keep the correct exposure? Hope that makes sense. :) loving the videos.
Thank you for your nice feedback and so glad you like it. This is a tough situation but I would say it's also a typical ND-filter scenario. Either a variable ND filter on the lens or a more expensive solution like the Tilta Mirage matte box with variable ND filter with motor. If you don't mind the switch of DoF, then a quick Aperture switch could help with the exposure, but I would pref ND filter.
how much zebra patterns do i have to watch out for? does it have to cover all parts of my face?
It is all of those annoying answers where I have to say it depends. ☺️ decide where on your face you want a matching exposure and then look for zebra patterns on that spot. Usually I find that 40 to 60% off my face on the light side will be covered.
Hi! Thank you VERY much for your video! So, As I got you right, you also set zebra to 40% and wait when you see zebra cover all your face, right? What if I set zebra to 75 and wait while I have slightly zebra just a touch of it on my face?
But anyway I still have a problem! the image is so noisy!!!! And what is strange is that I use Gamut and only out from log2 to 709 makes it less noisy. Can you explain to me why?
Right :) and yes, you can set it to what you need and want, like 75. 40 just represent 18% grey in CLOG3 (and 2). Noise shouldn't be connected to either CLOG3 or not, or even ISO. Noise is just when you don't have enough light hitting the sensor. It can look noisy if you don't convert it correctly from LOG to rec.709 or if you miss exposure due to looking at curves in LOG and not 709.
I would recommend to test a little. Only real truth you can use is that 18% grey is ALWAYS 18% grey no matter you run LOG or 709, so expose for that. It's always on 40 IRE. Test with only lighting your card in both log and 709 and then compare. If you have no difference in noise in the two, I would conclude exposure problems when you work in LOG. Let me know how it goes?
thank you very much for your reply! I appreciate it. Definitely wanna test it. Will do! You know what confused me the most? I shoot in LOG 3 Cinema Gamute. When I convert from LOG 3 CG to 709 - its sooo noisy! When I converted from Log 2 to 709 - super clean image. So weird. I'm a new guy here. Just learning. Hope you understand. Thanks for the help! P.S. Using internal LUT in FCPX or downloaded from Canon website - same story
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@@ArtyomPersidskyTube but you don't have CLOG2 on an R6 right? Only CLOG and CLOG3. I don't know FCPX unfortunately, only use DaVinci. Hmmm...
Im using R8 and yes, I dont have clog2. I know this is strange. I will try to figure that out and hit you back. Thanks again! @@persvanstrom
@@ArtyomPersidskyTube where you able to figure it out?
My clog option suddenly disappear and left only clog3. Is there a solution?
That was a strange one. I never encountered that Are you still in video mode on your hard dial on the top of the camera?
What is the zebra settings for skin tone? You only mentioned the zebra setting for the gray card. Is it the same for skin tone? Thank you for your videos. I’m learning a lot.
Thank you and that makes me so happy to hear. I need to watch my own video again if I missed that. The IRE answer is actually two. Around 50IRE in CLOG3 or 70IRE in Rec.709. Reason why it's two values is that to get 70IRE when your footage is graded and 70 is a typical IRE value for skin, we need to expose LOG for 50IRE as it get's stretched when we do our color space transformation. If you shoot in standard video mode (no CLOG3) and in Rec.709 then the Zebra should be 70. Zebra = IRE :) I hope that answers your question.
I'm actually going to make a new video about this.
@@persvanstrom thanks for getting back to me. I’m got a new-to-me camera. Mark ii. I’m trying to learn as much as I can. Shooting in clog3. A lot of your videos are great for beginners to understand. I really appreciate your work.
@@Chadinmtl thank your very much 🙏🧡 Feel free to ask me anything, I will do my best to help. Anything specific you would like me to cover in a future video?
@@persvanstrom I would love to see setting up an interior shot(normal household lighting) and an exterior shot (golden hour). By that I mean camera settings and showing the menus as you setup the shots using zebras.
I’m a visual learner, I’ve written down a lot of your information and keep it in my camera bag. Again, thank you so much for your time and effort.
Nice idea, thank you. I will create that. I'm just about to release some Ninja V videos, then this will be up :)
What a nice video, i have a question, so it means that if the skin i want on screen have the zebra ON it means is well expose ? also for the fray card ? If the zebras goes on according to the IRE % if is on over all the CARD it means that is good expose ?
Yes, exactly that. The exact value varies +-10 depending on tone and style
I dont know why, but i always have color shifting issue with c-log3.. shifting red to much orange/warm. Especially skin tone.. so i decide to shoot natural profile -_-
Do u hv an idea ?
I would check my white balance. Canon is a little red, but shouldn’t alter between profiles. If you convert to 709 with a LUT, I would try another LUT or convert manually
How do we deal with ISO noise at 800. In a well iluminated video. It happens that the black areas still have noise.
If it’s well luminared it shouldn’t have that much noise. Could go ISO400 or it’s only post processing NR
@persvanstrom It allows to go to down to ISO 400 and 100. But it shows a message that choosing these, there will have an impact o image quality.
@@TechFacilLucasit doesn’t if lighting allows it
Great video. I noticed that you use BT 2020 and not Gamut. Can you explain why in a video? Thanks.
Thank you! I'll make a video about that asap, stay runed
New video out in a few hours, LONG. It will answer your question about BT2020 vs Gamut. I hope you like the video and I will be very curious to know what you will think of it :)
You get a yellow colour cast with gamut
How do you adjust it when your sitting in front of the camera🤔
You mean the camera settings when I'm the subject? A lot of running :D but one way is to rig a color chart in place of your subject's face (even if i that is yourself) and adjust until you are happy. I even thought about buying some sort of inflatable human head, but those are some sketchy heads 😂 so I just keep using my chart. I've used a balloon with success at some shoots. It's important to rig before you shoot someone else as well and you don't want to waste someone's time. So a great question, maybe I could make a video about that? If that wasn't an answer to your question, please let me know and I will answer accordingly.
Tres interessant. if you have opportunity to use R5 are R6 II with external recording, I am interesting to know what do you think about RAW video . thank you
I will try my best to make that happen
I have this camera but I can’t find a bottom called Clog3 in the wheel. I have no idea how to do my setting right 😢
CLOG3 is only viable in video mode (dial on video camera). It’s only available from a firmware update so make sure you have the latest firmware
Thank you for clarifying it this to me ;)
What is ur ND recommend for canon r6
I've only tested a K&F, a Cochin before I decided to go big on a PolarPro Peter McKinnon edition. As I mostly film on C70's now with built in ND-filters I wanted a fixed as I prefer that for photography. Not sure if that helps? I love my PolarPro, but they are expensive. If I could only afford one, I would prob go with a VND, but personally I prefered using fixed.
when using the same zebra settings, i find noise in the darker areas when in low light at night at my home with just a lamp. I see noise in the shadows. Should i reduce my DR and bring iso down to 400 since its at night and I dont require that DR.
Night shots are tricky. You want to film skin in the dark? I would try to forget about Zebras and just film for the circumstances and make it darker.
Under exposure brings more noise than ISO
How about free log footage so we can practice color-grading?
Nice idea 👏❤️
Subbed. What zebra settings do you use for skin tones?
That was very awesome of you 🧡 Thank you 🙏
For my own skin I tend to use 45 +-5 IRE and 90 on Zebra 2 for over exposure control
Is it possible for you to evaluate H265 vs Clog3. I have been testing these two and even when overexposing, using native iso etc I will get cleaner files with a simple neutral profile with contrast dialed down -4 vs clog3. Working in resolve adding back colorspace, sRGB curve overexposing more or less handles noise and grain in clog3 but I still get color noise and a overall more sensitive file to work with. I guess it could be handled but still. From this perspective I would say that h265 10bit is much better to work with.
Great idea 💡 I will make such a video. Anything else you want me to include in that video or another future video?
@@persvanstrom Not really. I am in early stages testing this cameras capabilities out. It is clear that the sensor works way different from older canon DSLRs and noise handling is very good also in shadows now.
As I work a lot with real estate footage I like to retain windows a lot so if you like a comparison on such a theme is possible. Otherwise, comparing color handling and overall results when rec709 is applied applied to log. It seems a lot is going on under the hood with h265 👀.
Oh, and testing should involve contrasty areas digging in shadows.
Lycka till 🤹!
@@dudek53 tack 😅
I'm confused. Isn't H265 the codec and Clog3 the color space? As far as I know they're different things. In the R6 I'm pretty sure that if you want to shoot in clog3 you HAVE TO shoot in 10bit H265. If you shoot in Rec709 (any other picture profile besides clog) you shoot in 8bit H264. How can there be a H265 10bit vs Clog3?
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Have you had issues with the Ninja V with dropped frames or line skipping?
No, not what I have noticed. Only the Cinema Gamut color shift. You?
@@persvanstrom I heard it from other UA-camrs. Also that it over heats.
The cinema gamut is a known and by Atomos acknowledged bug. R6 will over heat even with Ninja V, atleast for me. I guess you didn't mean the Ninja overheats?
Anyone else who think the Ibis in canon r6 is worthless? I mean just comparing to the iphone 14 pro max. Maybe my hands are shakey but most of my footage on the r6 is basically useless.
What are you using for lenses? I never had any problems with IBIS, on the contrary. I get more keepers with longer shutter speed than previous cameras. Digital ibis on the other hand, not so much. Real strength comes when paired with IBIS lenses, hence my question :)
@@persvanstrom I use 50mm and a zoom. Both L-series. The zoom one is stabilized which is the one I use for video.
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