Single Point vs Two Point Sling for SHOTGUN???
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Being new to shotgun ownership, I have been practicing in various range sessions. Part of which is carrying my firearm. But the two point sling has not been the most comfortable, nor the most consistent for me. In this video I convert my Mossberg 590 Thunder Ranch to a single point sling option. With a side mount on my receiver, and a nice bungee sling, this has gone from impractical to perfectly tactical.
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So what sport are you using a tactical shotgun? As a firearm instructor with 30 years of experience. I highly recommend the shotgun as a self defense weapon. There is nothing as effective as a properly loaded shotgun.
Do you use a sling on your home defense shotgun? I'm not so sure it's a good idea - ?
@@travelguy1564 I definitely use a sling on my home defense shotgun and rifle. If for some reason I need my hands free ( picking up kids , opening doors inc) I don’t want my weapon away from me. I use a sling that I can tighten up and if I need to sling it a can loosen it. It’s also sued a a retention device in the rare occasion I have to go hands on with someone.
@@americanpatriot477 Ok, good tips. Thanks
Mossberg baby.
Right on. Most of the millennials on firearm UA-cam have a dumb bias against shotguns for home defense, rarely considering the numerous reasons you wouldn't want to be shooting 5.56 in your own home (over-penetration, anyone?) I'll stick with a proven home defense weapon that Americans have relied on for hundreds of years.
I carried my M-16A4 with a single point sling and loved it. Not a perfect solution but does most things day to day pretty well and comfortably with the ability to react quickly. Never been much of a fan of two point slings. Fine for deer hunting but a little slower to get into action quickly. Gonna put a one point on my Beretta Optima Patrol shotgun.
I love my Magpul MS4 gen2 it’s a single/ two point QD quick release sling . QD connection hardware cost as much as the sling but to me it’s worth it . Something to keep in mind is having the option of single or two point on the fly is very practical when you are on the move and have to scale a wall or fence etc , sometimes that two point is crucial . I’m going to order an 18.5 “ barrel for my Remington 870 then I will install a sling on it , as it is now my 870 has its original mod. Choke 28” barrel and it’s like carrying a long ass 2”x 4” around 😝
Fun videos, thanks for sharing! ✌️🇺🇸
I have been experimenting with QD attachment and 2 point connection on my 10/22 Rifle. After getting that dialed in I feel a little better about going 2 point on my shotgun. I will probably experiment with that some more. Thanks for the comments and the viewership!
@@OuterLimitless2 this man Hammer Slammer is on point. The MS4 is the way to go. One and Two point options is great. Add the Magpul stock and you're doing even better with the m-lok swivels. Very diverse setup with options
Single point for me on my 500A. Had a 2 point setup that was comfortable but was running some quick draw style drills and actually shot the sling in half as the front mount (on the mag tube) is same length as barrel. Just wanted to share that for those with a barrel/mag tube of equal length. Scabbard is likely my next move to free up hands.
I definitely like the single point...it has worked very well so far! Thanks for watching!
@@OuterLimitless2 Do the single points works with all shotguns?
I loved the video, I wish you would’ve shown a little bit of all the slings, mounted & strapped around your neck & shoulder. Mostly to see the difference, how it looks, how it carrys. Also would’ve loved for you to try out the suppression sling with the bungee around the latch. Other than that great video & subbed. Maybe an update video on this?
I'm pretty short and have noticed single point slings let the muzzle get pretty close to the ground and it's hard to climb up hills and what not with it clanky around. Just something to think about
Excellent solution. My strap gets in the way of my forend light. It is integrated into the grip so I can not move it to the side. Thanks. Your intro is about 2 minutes to long. Might want to sharpen it up a little. Say you are a beginner and this is what you have learned. I am also a beginner by the way. Nice work.
You can run a two point across your chest like you wanted by mounting the rear of the sling to the top corner (heel) of the stock. You just have to drill a transverse hole through the stock at the heel and tie a loop of paracord there to mount the sling. The front sling mount is fine as is. I do this with every shotgun.
That would be really good...I definitely like the chest mount and having the two point stability would be awesome.
That’s a good idea. Easy as can be. I got a deputy trade in 870. Want to keep it inexpensive. Found a 6” led light with a tail cap button I’ve had from a while back. Had some zip ties a guy that I know that works on the railroad gave me. A little over a half inch wide. Real long. I don’t know what they use them for but they look heavy duty. That flashlight with two zip ties and two small pieces of 3M double sided tape. Gray puffy with red backer. That’s heavy duty stuff too. Good for outdoors or whatever. Used it just to keep everything in place and no chattering or anything.worked great. Went camping Easter Weekend. Put the gun in my canoe on Santee lake in South Carolina. Wanted to tie it on to the boat just in case. Already have A single strand para cord sling. Accidentally. It wouldn’t be comfortable to use for a long time. And that wasn’t the intention. It just wound up that way. Brought it in the house to give it a good wipe down after the camping trip and realized I had it slung comfortably, by accident. Simply had my hands full. I may make a sling. I like DIY stuff but those bungee ones are cool. Haven’t looked yet but thanks for the simple Suggestion of drilling a hole. It’s easy to over complicate things sometimes. Have a good one
Holding a tactical shotgun saying he’s using it for sport…? What sport?
A two point sling, you can wrap the sling around your off hand and put your hand back on the fore end, now you have more stability while aiming besides being able to take your hands off of it if you* should need to.
I'm still up in the air...enjoying the single point, but understanding the benefits of the two point...it's a hard choice! But can certainly swap it around if the firearm is setup accordingly. Thanks for watching and the advice!
@@OuterLimitless2 I can't take credit for that one, I got the first part of it from watching and listening to Clint of Thunder Ranch. I can certainly understand weighing both options, I try to do the same before jumping in both feet first.
Thanks, I am going with a padded magpul sling for my Mossberg 930.
OMG, look at that awesome sword hanging on your wall... I would love to see that & know where to get one too :P
I have a few swords...I think the one you could see is the Ontario Katana. Discontinued but it can be found from time to time on Ebay.
PS. Wasn’t in the market for a shotgun of any kind. I’ve never owned a pump shotgun and the price was too hard to pass up. Was standing there when they came to trade a half dozen for a half dozen new ones. Took it as a sign. I have some really skanky corroded aluminum low brass shells I found in a shed. Cleaning it out for my sister. Mice or squirrels or something had eaten all the boxes away to nothing. They were stacked like they were in boxes but they were no boxes. Anyhow I raked them into a old cooler and a duffel bag that was mouse chewed also and put them in the back of the truck and into my shed. I keep the mouse killing cubes in the corners in the little plastic boxes so no problems. Anyhow tried to get the gun to malfunction with the shells. I shot until I bruised my shoulder. Removed quite a few dead pine limbs too.
okay so what about taking out the trigger group cleaning it and lubricating it which means you have to take that bolt out all the time and use Loctite all the time I don't think that's such a good idea what's the last stress in a frame too. I would go with an attachment between the frame and the stock with a possible GG and G component
You have brought up very valid points. I have considered switching to the GG&G.
How often does that sort of maintenance need to be done? And could you use a nylon locknut substitute?
Wait why would you even hesitate to use this as a self defense weapon? What would you rather use for a self defense weapon?
Very good answer! In regards to your use of your shotgun
Thank you for watching!!
I would like to see you try the 2-point sling using the new side of receiver attachment rather than the bottom of the stock.
I have that same Amazon sling, I use it for my AR-9.
Thanks. Good info 9:54
Check out the soe gear single point slings they have bungee and non bungee with more realistic sizing
The problem with a 2 point sling on a pump shotgun. It that is can interfere with the action of the gun if you accidentally grab the sling as you are reaching for the fore grip.
Hang on
How do you get to your trigger assembly after locking in the pin like that?
if ur removing that assembly simply take the pin out the same way it went in blue lock tight isn’t extremely strong it just prevents the nut from walking out when you shoot. Now if you had used red loctight it would be a pain taking the nut off without heat possibly even permanent without heat so just make sure to use blue lock tight an ur golden
Why do you sound like Frederic Forrest in Falling Down? THINK ABOUT IT
No idea who that is...
I'll look it up
Fredrick Forest (RIP) is the army surplus character in Falling Down and Chef in Apocalypse Now...remember never get off the boat.
Good stuff. Thanks.
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
Will realy appreciate if you could you write the internet address for the trigger group pin adapter manufacturer you use? Thank's
The standard swing that you were having the beginning of the video it blocks the flashlight on my shotgun so I took it off
Yes... That's the issue I find too! I'm gonna switch this up soon but I've been running it this way for a while.
Awesome video thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching! Greatly appreciated!
Could this be done with remington 870 tactical
Nice content. I started contemplating the same issue. I use a 2 point blue force sling,that is too loose around my body when carryung but to tight/constricted for when I raise it too fire and have to loosen it
Holy fuck youre right a 2:47 long intro if your gonna do that out in time cards my guy
Mossberg 590A1
Great video. I am looking at the single point sling option for my Mossberg 590 Shockwave. Hmmm... I am thinking this might be my best option. Any thoughts?
It works great for my needs... the sling itself is slightly long but overall this seems like the best solution for balance and proper mount coming off the sling
I don’t know if you found an option get but I just picked up a double and single point (2 in 1) for my shockwave at my local Dunhams and after a 200 round range day I would recommend. It was $35
I'm looking at this for the same reason. Have you tried it yet? If so how is it going?
Can you tell me what you have on the end of your Mossburg 590? Looks like a breaching choke? I also own the 590 and was just curious,looks tatcal.
Yes! I have the 590 Thunder Ranch edition which is more tactical. Has a pic rail forend, breacher barrel... thick wall barrel, and the camo. It's a bit more compact than most 590's.
Modern slings are not about shouldering your weapon like a civil war soldier. It is about finding a tactical carry position which enables carry and tactical application of your weapon while in a tactical carry orientation. But you’ve drilled holes in your expensive shotgun now so enjoy what you have. Did you consider contacting Thunder Ranch on their recommendation? If I bought that shotgun that is one of the things I would’ve done.
Thx for the info. What is the msg looking thing hanging?& what do the thunder ranch people do to the gun to make it a thunder ranch edition?mind if I ask the cost too. That guy is no nonsense. Been around the block a few times.
The Thunder Ranch edition is a slightly smaller version of the 590 which is more home defense...plus a thicker barrel, breacher on the buzzle, and the kuiu vias camo. It has the tactical forend with the pic rail.
@@OuterLimitless2 the 590 sounds like it’s top shelf. No doubt. Nice shogun. .enjoy
If you're using the shotgun 99% for sport why the tac light? Illegal for hunting and irrelevant for sport shooting?
But it sits by my bed ready for self defense. If I was using this 99% for self defense don't you think I'd have some serious problems? And if I don't practice with sport how proficient will I be when I need it for self defense?
Can you use that swivel on the post that is on the pistol grip ? Where you mounted the swivel is already being used for my tacstar ammo holder
I would think as long as the pin you remove is the same diameter...I feel like they are the same length.
is there a link or a full name to find online
What light is that and also the mount? Trying to find the right one for my 590 shockwave and don’t know what I’m doing lol
My shotgun has the mount right on the foreend from the factory which is why I bought what I did with the thunder ranch edition.
My light is the olight Baldr Pro but I would suggest there are better options. I'm currently running the TLR RM2 laser from Streamlight. I have a video on that if you want to check it out
2 point is the only way to go on a shotgun. Get a side mount quick disconnect on the left barrel side and if you don't want to go with a magpul stock you can drill in the right-side of your stock and add a quick disconnect and run your sling over the stock, allows the gun to pull tight to your body without wanting to flip outwards.
What hardware was used the receiver?
That mount is not very good it’s going to wallow out the trigger pin whole on the receiver and also if you need to take your shotgun apart to clean it it’s gonna be lock tightened on no good
Not the proper way of mounting a sling. I agree a pump gun needs a single point but not with a gimmick product. The swivel will work itself loose and that's the last thing you want when it's going through the action. Buy a Magpul single point attachment for a mossberg or remington. The hookup is less cumbersome.
Just subbed to ur channel!
Thanks for coming aboard! Glad to have you!
Dang, how tall are you? My shotgun would be dragging the ground if it rode that low!
I def want a skeeter shorter single point sling... it's a touch long... but still mountable with the sling on my shoulder. I'm 6 foot 1-ish
What is the Grove Tech model number for this mount?
I have the GTHM-274 Shotgun Sidemount Single point adapter w/stud head. Hope that helps!
@@OuterLimitless2 thank you. I just ordered it.
Real men carry it between their teeth. 🤣
@outdoorlimitless2 Can you do me a huge favor and measure the diameter of the side mount adapter pin head at 3:45? I have an extended side saddle mount that covers the area but has a cutout of 8mm for the pin and not sure if it'll fit.
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
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