I have a couple of issues with this presentation: 1) Tithes and firstfruits are absolutely not the same thing. When speaking about offerings to God, firstfruits are far less than 10%. 2) The prophet Malachi was talking to priests that were failing to do their duties. He clearly wasn't picking out just one of the 600 plus laws under the Old Covenant to say that believers now need to do it. 3) We are warned in James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. Brother George
Such great feedback George, we'd love to hear what you thought on the entire teaching ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html Thanks for sharing with us, we look forward to hearing back.
@Jman1776 hebrews 7 says it's a witness that Jesus is alive because he receives our tithes. Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
There's no such thing as a biblical tithe received from earned wages. Not New Testament, or Old. Malachi 3:10 had nothing to do with money and the context of it can't be universally applied either historically or currently. There's no biblical promise of any blessing for paying money to a religious organization nor is there any biblical curse for not doing so.
Your perspective is appreciated! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. 😊 You bring up a good point that the physical temple and the laws associated with it don't apply today - those would be identified as ceremonial laws. But there were other laws, known as moral laws, that still have a fingerprint on our laws today (thou shall not murder, steal, etc). In terms of tithe, you're referencing the Levitical tithe, but there was also another tithe known as the "poor tithe." This tithe, hence the name, was collected for the sake of providing for the vulnerable. 💰 We reflect on the apostle Paul's words "remember the poor" and even Christ's words, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." Jesus is no longer physically with us, but he did say "whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me." The poor were prioritized in the Torah before Jesus, in the Gospels when Jesus walked the earth and in Paul's letters after Jesus ascended. We want our treasures/resources to remember the poor as Christ soberly reminded us, "where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." ❤️
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV It's interesting that you should bring up the "poor tithe" under Mosaic law, which occurred every 3rd year. And I agree that Jesus encouraged giving to the poor as well. It seems evident then that biblical, compulsory tithing wasn't universal, even within Israel under Mosaic Law, since it's evident the poor didn't pay a tithe, they received from it. It's also interesting how there's no biblical record of merchants or tradesmen tithing from their monetary proceeds or earned wages. So why is today's version of tithing frequently taught as universal when today's version of tithing from earned wages carries no biblical precedent at all? There's nothing wrong with anyone choosing to tithe, money or otherwise, to today's version of a "church" or otherwise by their discretion. The problem emerges when tithing is taught as universal, ongoing, biblical instruction that everyone must continuously pay money to a religious organization. That victimizes the less fortunate, and those are the very people we should be helping.
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV Yes, there was a poor tithe - every 3 years. And yes, Jesus emphasized giving to the poor. Through churches these days, there are (hopefully) benevolence funds for the less fortunate. And we are to give willingly, not under compulsion, as we feel led and as we're able. We're free to give, not bound to pay.
@@markb7067 Thanks for getting back to us 😊 Love how you put it! "We're free to give, not bound to pay." Certainly the early church felt this way also according to Acts 2:32-35: "Now the entire group of those who believed were of one heart and mind, and no one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but instead they held everything in common. With great power the apostles were giving testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was on all of them. For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." (CSB) We believe this stands in stark contrast to the American church culture today, which is the single wealthiest group of believers ever before in history. It's sad to think that on average Americans give between 1-2% of their income, not just to support their local church, but that amount also accounts for caring for the poor (benevolence) and spreading the gospel across the globe. Whereas many poorer nations can account for more dollar amounts given (not just percentage of wages), which is convicting since they are clearly not able to afford it as much as we are. In reference to the early church and the current global church, we as Americans have gone backwards in our freedom to give generously, not forwards. We also agree that no one should give out of compulsion as it says in 2 Corinthians 9:6-9 "The point is this: The person who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and the person who sows generously will also reap generously. Each person should do as he has decided in his heart-not reluctantly or out of compulsion, since God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make every grace overflow to you, so that in every way, always having everything you need, you may excel in every good work. As it is written: He distributed freely; he gave to the poor; his righteousness endures forever." (CSB) We believe the biblical principle we can apply here is that the more radically generous we are as a church, the more the Lord will be the one providing for our every need. This is why 50% of what we spend as a church goes towards caring for orphans, widows, the poor, and the unreached around the globe. We hope this helps to clarify some of our heart behind giving and generosity. Be blessed today 🙏
Im so puzzled that the traditions of men have such a stronghold on most churches. According to history, tithing wasnt practiced for the first 600 years of the church. The reason why? There was no temple, no levitcal priesthood, it was law and not grace. The moment you have to do something in order to get a blessing, you are no longer grace. You know what else he wont tell you? Women never tithed because they didnt own land and therefore they jad no produce or livestock to tithe. Also, the poor were one of the recipients of the 3 tithes that he and others dont teach. They pick and choose what they want to teach and compel members who are living on food stamps to tithe. Smh New testament or giving under grace is found 2 corinthians 9:7, where its based on what you purpose to give and not a specific amount
Thanks for leaving us a comment! 💚 It's true that there was no tithe in the early church, and what we find instead is far more interesting 🤔 Acts 4:34-35 describes the financial practices of the early church really well "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." 🤯 Indeed there was no "tithe", people sold their possessions to care for those in need. Sadly, this is a far cry from what we see in our modern world. The US is home to the most wealthy Christian population in all of human history, and yet our giving is 2% or less of our income on average, putting us way behind other countries in terms of generosity. And of that 2% given, only 2% of that is going to helping the poor and/ or unreached. As a church, we strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached in our city and across the globe. 🌎 We hope this helps to clarify our heart behind giving and generosity! Be blessed today 🙏
I only have one Question if the Word of God is so adament to pay tithes and offferings, it must also show us how to pay titihes and offerings, becasue I never read of only taking a 10% of your gross income every month ?
Thanks for your question! 💚 If we're looking at Scripture as a whole, we can see precedence for honoring the Lord with our wealth as He provides it for us. A great example as early as Genesis is when Abram (later known as Abraham) gives a tenth (or tithe) of "everything" after defeating Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him. Back then wealth was measured primarily in livestock. Today, wealth is primarily measured by a person's financial income. In the Old Testament, followers of God were expected to make offerings to Him from their first fruits, the first of what they were provided by God to live on. In the New Testament, we see this generosity exceed the minimum requirement of the law in Acts 4:34-35 "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." And in Paul's letters to the Corinthians, he encourages them to set aside money to support other believers who were going through hard times. We would recommend watching the full message for more context on giving 10%, but we hope this is helpful 😊 You can watch that here. ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV You did not answer my Question. I want scripture that says that you must take your Gross income every month and pay a tenth of that to your Organization ? Now Abraham paid a tenth you once and never again , not for something he have work for, but the "spoils" get collected in the battle. The Fisrt fruits of the offering that the Isrealites made was once a year, not every month and we are not Isrealites, but Gentiles.Paul encourage "cheerful giving" that says another about 10 percent every month.
We hear your skepticism and affirm that the American church hasn't been the best example of stewarding finances. This also breaks our heart. Our aim at Greenhouse is to spend about 50% of our funds on the poor and missions, which includes financial accountability amongst our pastors and leaders. Thanks for the comment @kodykarlik5221
@@GreenhouseChurchGNVInteresting answer. However, the tithe is thoroughly documented in the laws of Moses. And 10 percent of one's paycheck isn't in there. However, cheerful giving is encouraged in the New testament. Unfortunately, the laity has been misled into thinking and doing things that are man-made as opposed to Bible based. God loves a cheerful giver.
I am begging pastors in the name of God and for the sake of the gospel of Jesus Christ, stop all these teachings about tithing. It is not a teaching or concern of the Holy Spirit for the new testament church. I know the church have bills to pay but the church of God will not be stranded no matter what. Teach love and let giving either to the work of God or to others comes from love. Thank you
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! Hopefully we can help clarify some of our heart behind giving and generosity. 😊 As a church (not just our pastors), we believe in radical generosity like we see demonstrated by the early church in Acts 4:32-35. This is one of the reasons why we strive to give 50% of what we spend to missions, orphans, widows, and the vulnerable. We agree that the Lord is so faithful to provide for our needs as a church. Even when it would make more sense for us to be less generous because of the economy or what have you, the Lord has still provided to keep the lights on and still be a blessing to those in need. ✅ We would invite you to watch the full length message to hear more of our heart behind how the Lord has directed us in our finances. 💚 ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html
Yeah no. I've been titheing for 20 yrs and have open windows. It has destroyed any possibility of greed in me as I am constantly in a state of giving. It is a witness that Jesus is alive according to hebrews.7 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
@travishowett7651 giving did that. But it didn't have to be 10% of your income. Tithe and giving are two different things. We say stop preaching about tithe because we are not required to tithe but we are to give. Pastors take tithes out of context to receive money for their 501c3 churches were they are not taxed on the money received. You can give and it not be tithe. Tithe is not even money. Actually money was used to buy what you needed for tithe if you didn't have it. Which is food and livestock.
Hey there, @thumbtack2390! The Lord has definitely blessed us as a church because of the generosity of its members. Just so you can know some of our heart behind giving, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to global/ local missions, outreach, and the poor in our community. We believe church should not just be a club that offers perks to paying members, but an outpost of generosity to effectively minister the Gospel while meeting needs of those in our area. We want people to know that when they give, they're not just giving to keep our AC on, but they're giving to orphans, widows, and those who have never heard the good news of Jesus in our community and across the globe. You bring up such a great Scripture! When Jesus says that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter heaven, it's a sobering reminder that we need to keep our hearts in check when it comes to our personal and church-wide finances. It also forces us to ask the question, "Am I rich?" Globally, the US possesses 30% of the world's wealth (visualcapitalist.com). In addition a $30,000 yearly income would put a single person with no kids in the top 5% of global wealth (givingwhatwecan.com). When we put this in perspective, we need to ask ourselves if Jesus was talking about us, or only those richer than us.
Romans 11:16 that you are referring to is talking about the nation of Israel being rejected and the Gentiles being grafted in because of Israels rejection of the gospel. Nothing to do with paying tithes . Read Roman’s chapter 11 verses 1 through 17 and it’s actually very clear. Sometimes we take scripture out of context by mistake. Lord bless this preacher for doing a work for the kingdom of heaven regardless if a scripture was used out of context by mistake.
Thanks for leaving us a comment! 😊 Really appreciate your kind and gentle posture while offering a correction, and a prayer blessing our pastor and giving the benefit of the doubt 💚 Totally agree that the primary scope of Romans 11:11-24 is the grafting in of the Gentiles. Paul seems to be drawing on the Old Testament imagery of first fruit offerings of dough in 11:16 to illustrate his point. If we look at the Old Testament scriptures that are cross referenced (Num 15:18-21) we see see more clearly what Paul is alluding to. The Believer's Bible Commentary says it well: "11:16, Now Paul employs two metaphors. The first has to do with the first fruit and the lump, the second with the root and the branches. The first fruit and the lump speak of dough, not of fruit. in Numbers 15:19-21 we read that a piece of dough was consecrated to the Lord as a heave offering. The argument is that if the piece of dough is set apart to the Lord, so is all the dough that might be made from it. As for the application, the first fruit is Abraham. He was holy in the sense that he was set apart by God. If this was true of him, it is true of his chosen posterity. They are set apart to a position of external privilege before God." 📖 Paul is taking for granted that people are familiar with the concept of the first fruit offering and the principles it requires to parallel Abraham, namely that whatever is set aside to be given to God, whatever may come of it is holy as well. It's difficult to encapsulate all that context in a 60 second clip, and we were more so trying to illustrate the biblical principle for why our generosity matters. We would recommend watching the full message for more context in how this Scripture is being applied. 🤓 ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch Once again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us! We hope this is a helpful explanation and that you are truly blessed today 💚
If hes going to teach the partial law of the tithe, hes guilty of breaking the whole law. There was a levitical tithe for the priests, a tithe for the feasts and a tithe taken every 3 years for the poor. So, its actually 23.3% of your produce and livestock over a 3 year period. However, there are no more levites, and no more feasts to observe. The poor is still there, but these tithe promoting pastors dont encourage their members to give a tithe to them. In fact, they abandon the context of Malachi 3 to pressure the poor to tithe. Oh, the hypocrisy and greed
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! 😊 It's so true that there are churches and leaders who take advantage of the poor instead of promoting generosity to those in need. Just so you hear our heart as a church, we strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached. The Lord has blessed us greatly with all that we have, and we desire to honor Him with the way we steward our finances by taking care of the least of these in our city and through missions. 🌎 Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 💚
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV My point is that tithe is not mandated under the new covenant. If one wants to give 10% , 20% or even 5% of their income, that's their perogative. Giving should be encouraged though because God loves a cheerful giver. Kudos to you for helping the poor. At least that's better than a lot of churches
Thanks for your response! 😊 100% agree that God loves a cheerful giver, and that giving should not be done reluctantly or out of compulsion. (2 Cor. 9:7) 💚
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! 😊 So true that in the Old Testament the Israelites were instructed to give a tenth of all their produce (Leviticus 27:30) The main reason we don't see a lot of specific instructions about money is because the average Israelite was a farmer whose main source of "income" was whatever essentials they produced on their farm to live off of or barter and trade any excess for other essentials. Our economy nowadays is very different in that the fruit of our labor is predominately money which we then use to purchase essentials. The biblical principle is that we should give back to God out of what He graciously provides us, whether that's in the form of produce, money, or whatever future version our economy may take on. We would recommend watching the full length message for more explanation, but we hope this is helpful! 💚 You can watch the full message here ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch
@@GreenhouseChurchGNVyea that was when 20% of your money gave you a house and food and you could afford to pay 10% now 80% of money is used for housing and food
@ Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! It's so true that our 21st century American economy has shifted a lot in the past few decades. What's fascinating is that American Christians today are still the wealthiest group of believers to exist in all of human history. 🤯 What's confusing is that right now in third world countries, believers there are more generous with their giving per capita than US believers, despite having less to live on. And this has generally been the case throughout church history: the wealthier a group of believers is, the less likely they are to be generous in their giving. Americans give 1-2% on average, and of this, only 1-2% of that giving will go to the unreached. We feel called as a church to support the global church in reaching those who would never be able to hear the gospel message otherwise. 🌎 Hope it's helpful for you to hear some of our heart behind giving and generosity. Be blessed today! 💚
You bring up a great point Clint, James 1:27 should be the heart & standard of generosity and our heart burns for that. The average American church member gives 2.58% of their income and once it makes it into the hands of churches, only about 2% makes it to missions and poor. That means Christians are only giving about 2% of 2%. Our goal at Greenhouse is for 50% of our funds to go to missions and the poor. We're thankful for your comment and hope our own vision is an encouragement.
We're in agreement Julie that the Lord will give you the desires of your heart and that the work of your hands and your finances would honor God and love others 🙏
The church should live according to the new covenant in Jesus Christ. The apostles, used by God, wrote the Scripture for the new covenant. They never wrote that the church should tithe. However, the church should give and how much they give is between them and God.
Hey, there @m_recon5092! Thank you for sharing this thought with us 😊 Such an encouragement that we are under grace and not under the law. As we see with the early church in Acts 2:32-35, "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." 💰 What a blessing it is to be able to exceed the 10% minimum of the law and be radically generous with those who are in need. ❤️
Great question! 😊 Paul writes about giving and generosity in a few passages. 1 Corinthians 16:2 instructs the church there to set aside money every week to assist the church in Jerusalem. In 2 Corinthians 8:1-5 Paul writes about Macedonia's incredible generosity despite their poverty. And in 2 Corinthians 9:6-15 Paul makes a case for sowing generously, but not out of reluctance or compulsion. These are just a few examples from Paul, and is not meant to be exhaustive, but enough to get you started if you're interested in diving deeper. 💚 We would encourage anyone curious about giving and generosity to examine the whole of Scripture as well for biblical principles. 📖 Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today! 🙏
I'm on the verge of filing chapter 13 bankruptcy. We don't hardly make enough money to pay our bills. We've had to get a few loans recently for vehicle repairs. When I had extra money I tithe consistently. Now I can barely pay my bills. If I give 10% of my money I'm going to be struggling even more to pay my bills. Tithing should not be in an investment in which we expect God to give us more of a return. It's not God's place to pay my bills. I can't give my money away and then come to God and wonder why I can't pay my bills. I definitely don't agree when preachers beat people over the head with the whole tithing thing. I can't give 10% of my money away and then come to God wondering why I can't pay my bills God doesn't work that way. God doesn't just let you win the lottery or send you big checks in the mail because you tithe. And I can't expect God to pay my bills for me when I give my money away it's not his place to pay my bills. Tithe shouldn't be an investment, to get more money back from God. I kind of feel like if someone ties and comes to God frustrated because they can't pay their bills, God would say you gave away your bill money. So should tithing be about an investment that gives us greater return like pastors always using Malachi, or should tithes be an offering when we have an abundance of money to give and expect nothing back in return from God? I say the latter
It's so true that the blessings God gives us are not always monetary. And it's also true that we shouldn't treat our generosity with the Lord as a vending machine, expecting to get back what we put in according to our own wants and desires. ❌ Thanks for sharing! We hope your financial situation improves soon. We would definitely recommend using discernment in cases where folks aren't in a position to give. No one should go into debt or neglect their family's needs just so they can put money in the offering plate. You're 100% right, the Lord gives us money and resources to care for ourselves and our family and to be good stewards of those sometimes means being honest with where we're at financially, coming up with a plan, seeking help, and hopefully getting into a better position so that we're able to be generous toward the Lord and others. Jesus often did miracles and ministry for those who could never pay Him back, and that's such a reflection of how the church should be in today's day and age as well. ⛪️ Praying for you and your family this holiday season! 💚 We hope that you are truly blessed today 🙏
Thanks for leaving us a comment! 😊 We'd be curious to know your thoughts on how the Scriptures are being misquoted in this clip 🤔 Feel free to check out the full message if you'd like. ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch Be blessed today! 🙏
Not the same thing this is prosperity doctrines.. there are 3 types of tithes temple, annnual & poor.. Holy first fruit is not 10%. Misleaders misleading
Thanks for sharing your perspective with us 😊 We value honoring the Lord with our wealth, and based on Scripture this is how we feel called to do it. We would recommend watching the full message as we address thing more in-depth. ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 💚
Thanks so much for the comment Mike, we appreciate it! You're right, the giving of first fruits is in the Torah as well as other parts of the Tanakh, such as Proverbs. So as Christians how would do we exegete these texts and apply them to our lives? All great questions and other texts are extracted in this entire teaching if you're interested ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html Thanks again for your response.
When Peter asked Jesus is it good to pay taxes, Jesus tells him to collect a golden coin out of the mouth of a fish and sees the inscription on the coin and says 'give to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar', and 'give to God what belongs to God'. If we speaking about context, money is the context, so what belongs to God?
Thanks for leaving us a comment. Great question! 😊 Jesus probably wasn't saying that all money belongs to Caesar, but rather drawing attention to the tension amongst the Jewish people at the time who were waiting for the Messiah to overthrow the Romans. They were trying to trick Jesus into a false binary where if He said "No, you don't have to pay taxes", they could have turned Him into the Roman authorities and if He said "Yes, you do have to pay taxes", they would have labeled Him a Roman sympathizer. Luckily Jesus is God and therefore can't be tricked. Instead He zooms out to the reality that they're so focused on their earthly kingdoms that they're missing out on the Kingdom of God which transcends all earthly kingdoms and is not confined to any government, economy, etc. In short, everything ultimately belongs to God regardless of what geopolitical socioeconomic culture we find ourselves a part of. ✝️ Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 🙏
@derrickdunn9809 context is key. The disciples asked 'if it's good to pay taxes(money)', Jesus said whose image is on the coin, Ceasars, He responded 'Give to him that which belongs to him'. And says give to God that which belongs to God. What belongs to God when we speak in terms of money? You could say your whole salary belongs to God then. Plus whose image is inscribed on you? Gods. So everything about you belongs to God, including your money.
Shout out to this church for at least defending the doctrine because many will just simply ignore the comments. I have to see the full context of this teaching because I have my own thoughts on tithing.
Thanks for the kind words! 💚 It's our joy to thoughtfully engage with folks online 😊 You can find the full sermon here! ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch Be blessed today 🙏
Tithing was for Israel, delivered as food to the Temple for the sustainance of the Priests. None of these exist today. Today we give free will offerings as members of the New Covenant. Nice try though 😏
Thanks for the comment @toolegittoquit_001, you bring up a good point that the physical temple and the laws associated with it don't apply today - those would be identified as ceremonial laws. But there were other laws, known as moral laws, that still have a fingerprint on our laws today (thou shall not murder, steal, etc). In terms of tithe, you're referencing the Levitical tithe, but there was also another tithe known as the "poor tithe." This tithe, hence the name, was collected for the sake of providing for the vulnerable. We reflect on the apostle Paul's words "remember the poor" and even Christ's words, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." Jesus is no longer physically with us, but he did say "whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me." The poor were prioritized in the Torah before Jesus, in the Gospels when Jesus walked the earth and in Paul's letters after Jesus ascended. We want our treasures/resources to remember the poor as Christ soberly reminded us, "where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Your perspective is appreciated and we value the conversation. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
@@GreenhouseChurchGNVYes we give to those in need, we give out of the joy of our heart to glory God. Tithing to a church isn’t required, although Benny hinn and many mega prosperity gospel churches would disagree.
God already blessed us believers, he don't cboose who he blesses and don't bless. He loves us all unconditionally. His love doesn't base on our performance.
Thanks for leaving us a comment 😊 It's so true that God's unconditional love for us is not dependent on our performance. 💚 His blessings however are not strictly unconditional. For example, if someone claims to be in Christ and is living openly in sin, we would not expect God to bless that person in the same way as if they were seeking Him diligently in obedience. Now this is an extreme example, but the principle does follow that any area of our life that we do not surrender to God, that will mean to some extent that we are missing out on the fullness of blessing that God has for us. Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 🙏
@GreenhouseChurchGNV Brother if you are truly in Christ, you inherit the Kingdom of the Father and it's blessings. Matthew 7:11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! Are you a father because I am and I love my kids unconditionally, even if one of my kids disobeys me, I may correct and discipline him but it doesn't mean he/she don't have access to my wealth anymore. He/she will still eat the same food that we all eat and sleep in the comfortable bed we all have. I take care of my kids whether they obey or disobey, it's my job as their father. If we were that gracious to our kids, what more is God as our father?
@@ulyssescasio9939 Thanks for getting back to us 😊 Great example of unconditional love as a father! It sounds like you love your children very much and nothing can change that 💚 Just as an example, say you give one of your children a car as a gift and then they begin to drive it irresponsibly, despite your many warnings against it. They continue to ignore your pleading with them to be careful and eventually they total their car and say "Since I'm your child, I can behave any way I want and since you love me, you have to give me a new car." Giving them a new car would not be a loving thing to do, since they proved they cannot handle the responsibility associated with that privilege. You may even say something like "I would love to provide you with another car, however you have demonstrated that you are a danger to yourself and to others on the road. If you improve your driving, I will buy you another car after awhile. If you don't improve your driving, I can't in good conscience gift you with another car. You'll have to depend on other means of getting around if you choose to continue being irresponsible." This doesn't mean that you don't love them unconditionally anymore, or they don't have a place to live, food to eat, a school to go to, etc, they just don't have access to your full generosity. 100% agree with Ephesians 1:3 where it says "Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavens in Christ." Just because we have the spiritual blessings of Christ, namely salvation, being adopted as his children, etc., does not mean that we don't have to do the difficult work of sanctification by the Spirit so that we can grow in maturity. Some things are a given no matter what: God's unconditional love for us in Christ being one of them. Hope this helps clarify some of our perspective! Be blessed today! 🙏
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV Amen. Everything you said is correct. My point is, God doesn't stop or minimize his blessings even if we disobey or fall short, yes he will teach/discipline us, but still it's a form of blessing, everything that comes from God is a blessing even if it's not financial blessing. Remember the parable of vineyard workers? The landowner pays everyone the same, regardless of how long they worked. Might seem unfair to us but it's fair to God. This is the law of Grace under the new covenant. I just don't want a believer in Christ to think they are not getting blessed because they are giving less. That would not give them joy that the Lord promised us all. God bless you brother.
Thanks for leaving us a comment! 😊 We are definitely blessed to have the option to provide for ourselves and our families outside of a ministry income. Also such an encouragement that we are under grace and not under the law. As we see with the early church in Acts 2:32-35, "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." 💰 What a blessing it is to be able to exceed the 10% minimum of the law and be radically generous with those who are in need. ❤️
@@ReneKabui they didn’t get paid in cash like we are doing today . The cost of living back then was food . Nowadays, the cost of living is money etc paper money , coins , checks etc. What’s the difference?
Whoa to you pastors who try and add to or subtract from the word of God. If you say tithing is a rule that Christians have to follow, that means my salvation has a price and thats a lie from the pits of hell. Ephesians 2:9, not of works lest any man should boast. Yall need to STOP telling people they have to tithe. The bible again tells us, let every man give as it is purposed in his heart.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! 😊 Totally agree that tithing/ giving/ generosity in no way determines a person's salvation. ❌ We would recommend watching the full message for more context. Just so you hear some of our heart as a church we feel called to be radically generous with all that the Lord has blessed us with. We strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached in our city and across the globe. We want the Lord to be pleased with how we steward our finances as a church. 💚 You can watch the full message here if you want! ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch Be blessed today! 🙏
To those questioning whether or not it is a vital and practical practice for these days then perhaps you should reread Mark 12:17. Do not let the ignorance of the devils in your ears cause you to miss out on God's love and blessings. Wake up and run back to the Father you pharisees and you who practice lawlessness!
Hey, there @thewolverine9197! Thanks for sharing this Scripture with us. It's always important to consult the Bible for how the Lord wants us to handle our money 🤑 We hope you are blessed today! 😊
First fruits is today not 10%. Show me where Jesus or any apostles or disciples taught or did. Not there. Malichi is law and rebuke for their hearts not right. U can’t put a price on a gift to our Father
@@joshuawhitley5819 Jesus doesn’t require that of you. If you believe that then you missed the whole point of him destroying the temple markets. The tithing is a church desire as a part of the pyramid scheme
@@joshuawhitley5819 Jesus doesn’t require tithing. It is against what he taught when he destroyed the temple markets. It’s the church that wants your money
Hey, @americanearthling9671, thanks for sharing your thoughts! While many churches choose to handle their finances in different ways, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to global and local missions, outreach and the poor in our community (Gainesville, FL). We believe church should not be a club that offers perks to the members who pay their dues, but an outpost of generosity so that we can effectively minister the Gospel while meeting needs of those around us.
Thanks for leaving us a comment 😊 Very true that Proverbs is wisdom literature, and as such it has principles of wisdom that can be interpreted and applied to God's people throughout different cultures. It would seem based on the Proverbs that there is Biblical precedence for honoring the Lord with our wealth. In ancient times, wealth was measured in agriculture, today it can be measured in different ways such as income, net worth, etc. As a church, we simply feel called to freely honor the Lord with all that He has freely blessed us with. Just so you hear some of our heart as a church, we strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, vulnerable, and unreached in our city and across the globe. 🌎 Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 💚
Thanks for leaving us a comment! 😊 Totally get where you're coming from. Many times it's hard to trace money that's given to any actual ministry or godly impact. Just so you can hear some of our heart, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached in our community and around the world. We feel called to be radically generous with all that God has blessed us so that our church family can know that when they give they're giving to build the Kingdom. 👑 Hope this is a helpful explanation! Be blessed today 💚
For those who do practice tithing, our prayer would be that they do it out of love! Remembering 1 Corinthians 13:3 - "If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing." Help us to love with our resources Lord!
Thanks for the comment @dh1510. We agree, we all need Jesus and his lordship in our lives. One of the instructions Jesus gave was "where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." At Greenhouse we take this so seriously that our aim is to spend about 50% of everything that comes in on the poor and the unreached, also remembering that Jesus associated the least of these with himself. We appreciate your pushback and we encourage financial accountability, so thanks for your comment and concern.
Thanks for leaving us a comment 😊 It definitely can be hard to encapsulate all of the context of Scripture in a 60 second clip. We would recommend the full message for more context 💚 ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html Be blessed today! 🙏
Thanks for sharing your comment with us 😊 We would say the full length message gives more context than the 60 second clip. You can watch that here if you'd like ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch If we took anything out of context, we'd be grateful to know your perspective on that as well. 💚 Be blessed today! 🙏
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV everything you said is taken out of context, tithing is no longer relevant. You even said malachi 3:10 is tithing? it is a rebuke for the corrupt priest. Malachi, a prophet in the days of Nehemiah, directs his message of judgment to a people plagued with corrupt priests, wicked practices, and a false sense of security in their privileged relationship with God. Using the question-and-answer method, Malachi probes deeply into their problems of hypocrisy, infidelity, mixed marriages, divorce, false worship, and arrogance. tithing is only a practice for the jews in old testament, and it is a part of the mosaic law, and when the salvation was given to the gentiles we are no longer under the law but by grace, Jesus also said He came to fulfill the law. Secondly, you will never find tithe as silver/gold or any form of money. the properity gospel churches twisting verses so that their members will give money.
Thanks for leaving us a comment! 😊 Hopefully you'll be relieved to hear us say that we can 100% assure you that we absolutely do not approve of devil worship in any form or fashion. ❌ We do not feel compelled to observe holy days or Sabbath days on any specific, particular day because of Colossians 2:16-17: "Therefore, don’t let anyone judge you in regard to food and drink or in the matter of a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of what was to come; the substance is Christ." As well as Romans 14:5-6: "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord." If you are fully convinced in your own mind to regard certain days as holy, you have 100% of our love and support. ❤️ Be blessed today! 🙏
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV Those Bible versus should convince you to stop celebrating Christmas (Ba'al/Saturn), stop celebrating Ashtoreth/Isis on Easter & stop worshiping on the wrong days PERIOD. It's not saying don't celebrate God's holy days it's saying not to let people judge you for not having a lot of excessive meats and wines on those appointed holy days. You are brainwashed to believe Corinthians 2 means whatever you want it to mean instead of what it does. Romans 14; if that was about the appointed holy days than why was Paul himself keeping the Sabbath and the feast days way after Jesus? You have no rational excuses for your worship of Lucifer and demanding of monies.
Hi, @caroljackson5051! Thanks for sharing your perspective with us 😊 Honoring the Lord with our wealth is a principle that we value as a church. We strive to give 50% of all we spend to global missions, local missions, and the poor. It grieves our heart that on average American Christians rank among the lowest in generosity, giving only about 2% of their income, despite being the wealthiest group of Christians in history. We believe that God has called us to be radically generous with the resources He's blessed us with. 🤗 We hope this clarifies some of our heart behind giving! Be blessed today. 🙌
Great observation! It's so true, humanity has come a long way in commerce, trade, and economy through many different cultures since the Old and New Testaments have been written. And something that will never change is God's call for us to be generous with our resources and wealth. As a church, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to missions and the poor, not because we want people to think we're great, but because we want to honor the Lord with all He's blessed us with. 😊 Be blessed today! ❤️
Thanks for leaving us a comment! 😊 We understand where you're coming from! There are certainly churches that selfishly abuse their authority. Hopefully you'll be relieved to know that we have no intention of twisting Scripture for our own gain. In fact, as a church, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to widows, orphans, the vulnerable, and the unreached. Our heart is for Jesus' name to be high and exalted, and for His people to follow Him in obedience. We simply believe that God has called us to be radically generous. Jesus said "Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." 💚 Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today! 🙏
Thanks for the comment Edwin. We understand that tithing and money can be difficult subjects to pull from the text, but as Paul shared in one of his letters, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work (2 Tim 3:16,17). There will likely be many other difficult topics to teach on, and we will continue to pull from the scriptures, even if it's difficult.
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV your preacher use the book of Malachi to tell people to tithe, you know it also tells that they are under curse if they fail to tithe. Tithe in the old testament for Jews are their form of taxation, who among you are faithfully give a tenth of everything, because if not, do you accept your under a curse too?
The entire teaching actually pulls from a number of scriptures, including Proverbs and the Gospels, along with Malachi ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html
I have a couple of issues with this presentation:
1) Tithes and firstfruits are absolutely not the same thing. When speaking about offerings to God, firstfruits are far less than 10%.
2) The prophet Malachi was talking to priests that were failing to do their duties. He clearly wasn't picking out just one of the 600 plus laws under the Old Covenant to say that believers now need to do it.
3) We are warned in James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.
Brother George
Such great feedback George, we'd love to hear what you thought on the entire teaching ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html
Thanks for sharing with us, we look forward to hearing back.
Tithing never...ever about money...and never taught after Calvary
@Jman1776 hebrews 7 says it's a witness that Jesus is alive because he receives our tithes.
Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
You hit the nail on the head. Context, context, context.
@@travishowett7651 the context was not tithing but rather the old/new covenant
There's no such thing as a biblical tithe received from earned wages. Not New Testament, or Old. Malachi 3:10 had nothing to do with money and the context of it can't be universally applied either historically or currently. There's no biblical promise of any blessing for paying money to a religious organization nor is there any biblical curse for not doing so.
Your perspective is appreciated! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. 😊
You bring up a good point that the physical temple and the laws associated with it don't apply today - those would be identified as ceremonial laws. But there were other laws, known as moral laws, that still have a fingerprint on our laws today (thou shall not murder, steal, etc). In terms of tithe, you're referencing the Levitical tithe, but there was also another tithe known as the "poor tithe." This tithe, hence the name, was collected for the sake of providing for the vulnerable. 💰
We reflect on the apostle Paul's words "remember the poor" and even Christ's words, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." Jesus is no longer physically with us, but he did say "whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me." The poor were prioritized in the Torah before Jesus, in the Gospels when Jesus walked the earth and in Paul's letters after Jesus ascended. We want our treasures/resources to remember the poor as Christ soberly reminded us, "where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." ❤️
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV It's interesting that you should bring up the "poor tithe" under Mosaic law, which occurred every 3rd year. And I agree that Jesus encouraged giving to the poor as well. It seems evident then that biblical, compulsory tithing wasn't universal, even within Israel under Mosaic Law, since it's evident the poor didn't pay a tithe, they received from it. It's also interesting how there's no biblical record of merchants or tradesmen tithing from their monetary proceeds or earned wages.
So why is today's version of tithing frequently taught as universal when today's version of tithing from earned wages carries no biblical precedent at all? There's nothing wrong with anyone choosing to tithe, money or otherwise, to today's version of a "church" or otherwise by their discretion. The problem emerges when tithing is taught as universal, ongoing, biblical instruction that everyone must continuously pay money to a religious organization. That victimizes the less fortunate, and those are the very people we should be helping.
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV Yes, there was a poor tithe - every 3 years. And yes, Jesus emphasized giving to the poor. Through churches these days, there are (hopefully) benevolence funds for the less fortunate. And we are to give willingly, not under compulsion, as we feel led and as we're able. We're free to give, not bound to pay.
@@markb7067 Thanks for getting back to us 😊
Love how you put it! "We're free to give, not bound to pay." Certainly the early church felt this way also according to Acts 2:32-35: "Now the entire group of those who believed were of one heart and mind, and no one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but instead they held everything in common. With great power the apostles were giving testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was on all of them. For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." (CSB)
We believe this stands in stark contrast to the American church culture today, which is the single wealthiest group of believers ever before in history. It's sad to think that on average Americans give between 1-2% of their income, not just to support their local church, but that amount also accounts for caring for the poor (benevolence) and spreading the gospel across the globe. Whereas many poorer nations can account for more dollar amounts given (not just percentage of wages), which is convicting since they are clearly not able to afford it as much as we are. In reference to the early church and the current global church, we as Americans have gone backwards in our freedom to give generously, not forwards.
We also agree that no one should give out of compulsion as it says in 2 Corinthians 9:6-9 "The point is this: The person who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and the person who sows generously will also reap generously. Each person should do as he has decided in his heart-not reluctantly or out of compulsion, since God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make every grace overflow to you, so that in every way, always having everything you need, you may excel in every good work. As it is written: He distributed freely; he gave to the poor; his righteousness endures forever." (CSB)
We believe the biblical principle we can apply here is that the more radically generous we are as a church, the more the Lord will be the one providing for our every need. This is why 50% of what we spend as a church goes towards caring for orphans, widows, the poor, and the unreached around the globe.
We hope this helps to clarify some of our heart behind giving and generosity. Be blessed today 🙏
Amen
Im so puzzled that the traditions of men have such a stronghold on most churches. According to history, tithing wasnt practiced for the first 600 years of the church. The reason why? There was no temple, no levitcal priesthood, it was law and not grace. The moment you have to do something in order to get a blessing, you are no longer grace.
You know what else he wont tell you? Women never tithed because they didnt own land and therefore they jad no produce or livestock to tithe.
Also, the poor were one of the recipients of the 3 tithes that he and others dont teach. They pick and choose what they want to teach and compel members who are living on food stamps to tithe. Smh
New testament or giving under grace is found 2 corinthians 9:7, where its based on what you purpose to give and not a specific amount
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It's true that there was no tithe in the early church, and what we find instead is far more interesting 🤔
Acts 4:34-35 describes the financial practices of the early church really well "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." 🤯
Indeed there was no "tithe", people sold their possessions to care for those in need. Sadly, this is a far cry from what we see in our modern world. The US is home to the most wealthy Christian population in all of human history, and yet our giving is 2% or less of our income on average, putting us way behind other countries in terms of generosity. And of that 2% given, only 2% of that is going to helping the poor and/ or unreached. As a church, we strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached in our city and across the globe. 🌎
We hope this helps to clarify our heart behind giving and generosity! Be blessed today 🙏
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I only have one Question if the Word of God is so adament to pay tithes and offferings, it must also show us how to pay titihes and offerings, becasue I never read of only taking a 10% of your gross income every month ?
Thanks for your question! 💚
If we're looking at Scripture as a whole, we can see precedence for honoring the Lord with our wealth as He provides it for us. A great example as early as Genesis is when Abram (later known as Abraham) gives a tenth (or tithe) of "everything" after defeating Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him. Back then wealth was measured primarily in livestock. Today, wealth is primarily measured by a person's financial income. In the Old Testament, followers of God were expected to make offerings to Him from their first fruits, the first of what they were provided by God to live on. In the New Testament, we see this generosity exceed the minimum requirement of the law in Acts 4:34-35 "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." And in Paul's letters to the Corinthians, he encourages them to set aside money to support other believers who were going through hard times.
We would recommend watching the full message for more context on giving 10%, but we hope this is helpful 😊
You can watch that here. ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV You did not answer my Question. I want scripture that says that you must take your Gross income every month and pay a tenth of that to your Organization ? Now Abraham paid a tenth you once and never again , not for something he have work for, but the "spoils" get collected in the battle. The Fisrt fruits of the offering that the Isrealites made was once a year, not every month and we are not Isrealites, but Gentiles.Paul encourage "cheerful giving" that says another about 10 percent every month.
Exactly!
Sounds like he has rent to pay
We hear your skepticism and affirm that the American church hasn't been the best example of stewarding finances. This also breaks our heart. Our aim at Greenhouse is to spend about 50% of our funds on the poor and missions, which includes financial accountability amongst our pastors and leaders. Thanks for the comment @kodykarlik5221
@@GreenhouseChurchGNVInteresting answer. However, the tithe is thoroughly documented in the laws of Moses. And 10 percent of one's paycheck isn't in there. However, cheerful giving is encouraged in the New testament. Unfortunately, the laity has been misled into thinking and doing things that are man-made as opposed to Bible based. God loves a cheerful giver.
I am begging pastors in the name of God and for the sake of the gospel of Jesus Christ, stop all these teachings about tithing. It is not a teaching or concern of the Holy Spirit for the new testament church. I know the church have bills to pay but the church of God will not be stranded no matter what. Teach love and let giving either to the work of God or to others comes from love. Thank you
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! Hopefully we can help clarify some of our heart behind giving and generosity. 😊
As a church (not just our pastors), we believe in radical generosity like we see demonstrated by the early church in Acts 4:32-35. This is one of the reasons why we strive to give 50% of what we spend to missions, orphans, widows, and the vulnerable. We agree that the Lord is so faithful to provide for our needs as a church. Even when it would make more sense for us to be less generous because of the economy or what have you, the Lord has still provided to keep the lights on and still be a blessing to those in need. ✅
We would invite you to watch the full length message to hear more of our heart behind how the Lord has directed us in our finances. 💚
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Yeah no. I've been titheing for 20 yrs and have open windows. It has destroyed any possibility of greed in me as I am constantly in a state of giving. It is a witness that Jesus is alive according to hebrews.7
Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
@travishowett7651 giving did that. But it didn't have to be 10% of your income. Tithe and giving are two different things. We say stop preaching about tithe because we are not required to tithe but we are to give. Pastors take tithes out of context to receive money for their 501c3 churches were they are not taxed on the money received. You can give and it not be tithe. Tithe is not even money. Actually money was used to buy what you needed for tithe if you didn't have it. Which is food and livestock.
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Hey man, that place looks pretty expensive and new. And you know what Jesus said about the camel and the needle don’t you?
Hey there, @thumbtack2390! The Lord has definitely blessed us as a church because of the generosity of its members. Just so you can know some of our heart behind giving, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to global/ local missions, outreach, and the poor in our community. We believe church should not just be a club that offers perks to paying members, but an outpost of generosity to effectively minister the Gospel while meeting needs of those in our area. We want people to know that when they give, they're not just giving to keep our AC on, but they're giving to orphans, widows, and those who have never heard the good news of Jesus in our community and across the globe.
You bring up such a great Scripture! When Jesus says that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter heaven, it's a sobering reminder that we need to keep our hearts in check when it comes to our personal and church-wide finances. It also forces us to ask the question, "Am I rich?" Globally, the US possesses 30% of the world's wealth (visualcapitalist.com). In addition a $30,000 yearly income would put a single person with no kids in the top 5% of global wealth (givingwhatwecan.com). When we put this in perspective, we need to ask ourselves if Jesus was talking about us, or only those richer than us.
Romans 11:16 that you are referring to is talking about the nation of Israel being rejected and the Gentiles being grafted in because of Israels rejection of the gospel. Nothing to do with paying tithes . Read Roman’s chapter 11 verses 1 through 17 and it’s actually very clear. Sometimes we take scripture out of context by mistake.
Lord bless this preacher for doing a work for the kingdom of heaven regardless if a scripture was used out of context by mistake.
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Really appreciate your kind and gentle posture while offering a correction, and a prayer blessing our pastor and giving the benefit of the doubt 💚
Totally agree that the primary scope of Romans 11:11-24 is the grafting in of the Gentiles. Paul seems to be drawing on the Old Testament imagery of first fruit offerings of dough in 11:16 to illustrate his point. If we look at the Old Testament scriptures that are cross referenced (Num 15:18-21) we see see more clearly what Paul is alluding to. The Believer's Bible Commentary says it well: "11:16, Now Paul employs two metaphors. The first has to do with the first fruit and the lump, the second with the root and the branches. The first fruit and the lump speak of dough, not of fruit. in Numbers 15:19-21 we read that a piece of dough was consecrated to the Lord as a heave offering. The argument is that if the piece of dough is set apart to the Lord, so is all the dough that might be made from it. As for the application, the first fruit is Abraham. He was holy in the sense that he was set apart by God. If this was true of him, it is true of his chosen posterity. They are set apart to a position of external privilege before God." 📖
Paul is taking for granted that people are familiar with the concept of the first fruit offering and the principles it requires to parallel Abraham, namely that whatever is set aside to be given to God, whatever may come of it is holy as well. It's difficult to encapsulate all that context in a 60 second clip, and we were more so trying to illustrate the biblical principle for why our generosity matters. We would recommend watching the full message for more context in how this Scripture is being applied. 🤓
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Once again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us! We hope this is a helpful explanation and that you are truly blessed today 💚
If hes going to teach the partial law of the tithe, hes guilty of breaking the whole law. There was a levitical tithe for the priests, a tithe for the feasts and a tithe taken every 3 years for the poor. So, its actually 23.3% of your produce and livestock over a 3 year period. However, there are no more levites, and no more feasts to observe. The poor is still there, but these tithe promoting pastors dont encourage their members to give a tithe to them. In fact, they abandon the context of Malachi 3 to pressure the poor to tithe. Oh, the hypocrisy and greed
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! 😊
It's so true that there are churches and leaders who take advantage of the poor instead of promoting generosity to those in need. Just so you hear our heart as a church, we strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached. The Lord has blessed us greatly with all that we have, and we desire to honor Him with the way we steward our finances by taking care of the least of these in our city and through missions. 🌎
Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 💚
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV My point is that tithe is not mandated under the new covenant. If one wants to give 10% , 20% or even 5% of their income, that's their perogative. Giving should be encouraged though because God loves a cheerful giver. Kudos to you for helping the poor. At least that's better than a lot of churches
Thanks for your response! 😊
100% agree that God loves a cheerful giver, and that giving should not be done reluctantly or out of compulsion. (2 Cor. 9:7) 💚
It doesn't say anything about giving cash but giving your labor at least the first of your labor is free each year.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! 😊
So true that in the Old Testament the Israelites were instructed to give a tenth of all their produce (Leviticus 27:30) The main reason we don't see a lot of specific instructions about money is because the average Israelite was a farmer whose main source of "income" was whatever essentials they produced on their farm to live off of or barter and trade any excess for other essentials. Our economy nowadays is very different in that the fruit of our labor is predominately money which we then use to purchase essentials. The biblical principle is that we should give back to God out of what He graciously provides us, whether that's in the form of produce, money, or whatever future version our economy may take on. We would recommend watching the full length message for more explanation, but we hope this is helpful! 💚
You can watch the full message here ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch
@@GreenhouseChurchGNVyea that was when 20% of your money gave you a house and food and you could afford to pay 10% now 80% of money is used for housing and food
@ Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! It's so true that our 21st century American economy has shifted a lot in the past few decades. What's fascinating is that American Christians today are still the wealthiest group of believers to exist in all of human history. 🤯
What's confusing is that right now in third world countries, believers there are more generous with their giving per capita than US believers, despite having less to live on. And this has generally been the case throughout church history: the wealthier a group of believers is, the less likely they are to be generous in their giving. Americans give 1-2% on average, and of this, only 1-2% of that giving will go to the unreached. We feel called as a church to support the global church in reaching those who would never be able to hear the gospel message otherwise. 🌎
Hope it's helpful for you to hear some of our heart behind giving and generosity. Be blessed today! 💚
Firstfruits doesnt necessarily mean money, and every pastor thinks everyone should give to THEM specifically. Not the struggling widows and orphans?
You bring up a great point Clint, James 1:27 should be the heart & standard of generosity and our heart burns for that. The average American church member gives 2.58% of their income and once it makes it into the hands of churches, only about 2% makes it to missions and poor. That means Christians are only giving about 2% of 2%.
Our goal at Greenhouse is for 50% of our funds to go to missions and the poor. We're thankful for your comment and hope our own vision is an encouragement.
First fruits do not mean money, no more than a tithe is money.
I can't wait to get a job again so I can tithe and give offerings. I know my heart wants and needs.
We're in agreement Julie that the Lord will give you the desires of your heart and that the work of your hands and your finances would honor God and love others 🙏
The church should live according to the new covenant in Jesus Christ. The apostles, used by God, wrote the Scripture for the new covenant. They never wrote that the church should tithe. However, the church should give and how much they give is between them and God.
Thanks for sharing your perspective 😊
Does that mean we also abolish the 10 commandments? Because that’s in the old testaments as well .
In the Old Testament it was 10% , in the New Testament what we go by yes we are to tithe but not a certain amount
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Such an encouragement that we are under grace and not under the law. As we see with the early church in Acts 2:32-35, "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." 💰
What a blessing it is to be able to exceed the 10% minimum of the law and be radically generous with those who are in need. ❤️
And what did the Apostels teach about?
Great question! 😊
Paul writes about giving and generosity in a few passages. 1 Corinthians 16:2 instructs the church there to set aside money every week to assist the church in Jerusalem. In 2 Corinthians 8:1-5 Paul writes about Macedonia's incredible generosity despite their poverty. And in 2 Corinthians 9:6-15 Paul makes a case for sowing generously, but not out of reluctance or compulsion. These are just a few examples from Paul, and is not meant to be exhaustive, but enough to get you started if you're interested in diving deeper. 💚
We would encourage anyone curious about giving and generosity to examine the whole of Scripture as well for biblical principles. 📖
Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today! 🙏
I'm on the verge of filing chapter 13 bankruptcy. We don't hardly make enough money to pay our bills. We've had to get a few loans recently for vehicle repairs. When I had extra money I tithe consistently. Now I can barely pay my bills. If I give 10% of my money I'm going to be struggling even more to pay my bills. Tithing should not be in an investment in which we expect God to give us more of a return. It's not God's place to pay my bills. I can't give my money away and then come to God and wonder why I can't pay my bills. I definitely don't agree when preachers beat people over the head with the whole tithing thing. I can't give 10% of my money away and then come to God wondering why I can't pay my bills God doesn't work that way. God doesn't just let you win the lottery or send you big checks in the mail because you tithe. And I can't expect God to pay my bills for me when I give my money away it's not his place to pay my bills. Tithe shouldn't be an investment, to get more money back from God. I kind of feel like if someone ties and comes to God frustrated because they can't pay their bills, God would say you gave away your bill money. So should tithing be about an investment that gives us greater return like pastors always using Malachi, or should tithes be an offering when we have an abundance of money to give and expect nothing back in return from God? I say the latter
It's so true that the blessings God gives us are not always monetary. And it's also true that we shouldn't treat our generosity with the Lord as a vending machine, expecting to get back what we put in according to our own wants and desires. ❌
Thanks for sharing! We hope your financial situation improves soon. We would definitely recommend using discernment in cases where folks aren't in a position to give. No one should go into debt or neglect their family's needs just so they can put money in the offering plate. You're 100% right, the Lord gives us money and resources to care for ourselves and our family and to be good stewards of those sometimes means being honest with where we're at financially, coming up with a plan, seeking help, and hopefully getting into a better position so that we're able to be generous toward the Lord and others. Jesus often did miracles and ministry for those who could never pay Him back, and that's such a reflection of how the church should be in today's day and age as well. ⛪️
Praying for you and your family this holiday season! 💚
We hope that you are truly blessed today 🙏
The Lord loves a cheerful giver ❤❤❤
Amen!
Giving vs tithe. It's a difference
So is it mandated or not
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How to tell if a false teacher. Read the Bible and understand it. See if this teacher is misquoting it. He surely is!
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@GreenhouseChurchGNV read the Bible and you will know.
Not the same thing this is prosperity doctrines.. there are 3 types of tithes temple, annnual & poor.. Holy first fruit is not 10%. Misleaders misleading
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We value honoring the Lord with our wealth, and based on Scripture this is how we feel called to do it. We would recommend watching the full message as we address thing more in-depth. ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html
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Tithing is explained thoughly in the laws of Moses. And giving 10 percent of your paycheck is not covered in the Torah.
Thanks so much for the comment Mike, we appreciate it! You're right, the giving of first fruits is in the Torah as well as other parts of the Tanakh, such as Proverbs. So as Christians how would do we exegete these texts and apply them to our lives? All great questions and other texts are extracted in this entire teaching if you're interested ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html
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can i give coupons?
When Peter asked Jesus is it good to pay taxes, Jesus tells him to collect a golden coin out of the mouth of a fish and sees the inscription on the coin and says 'give to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar', and 'give to God what belongs to God'.
If we speaking about context, money is the context, so what belongs to God?
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Jesus probably wasn't saying that all money belongs to Caesar, but rather drawing attention to the tension amongst the Jewish people at the time who were waiting for the Messiah to overthrow the Romans. They were trying to trick Jesus into a false binary where if He said "No, you don't have to pay taxes", they could have turned Him into the Roman authorities and if He said "Yes, you do have to pay taxes", they would have labeled Him a Roman sympathizer. Luckily Jesus is God and therefore can't be tricked. Instead He zooms out to the reality that they're so focused on their earthly kingdoms that they're missing out on the Kingdom of God which transcends all earthly kingdoms and is not confined to any government, economy, etc. In short, everything ultimately belongs to God regardless of what geopolitical socioeconomic culture we find ourselves a part of. ✝️
Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 🙏
Taxes is not tithe and tithe is not giving
@derrickdunn9809 context is key. The disciples asked 'if it's good to pay taxes(money)', Jesus said whose image is on the coin, Ceasars, He responded 'Give to him that which belongs to him'. And says give to God that which belongs to God.
What belongs to God when we speak in terms of money? You could say your whole salary belongs to God then.
Plus whose image is inscribed on you? Gods. So everything about you belongs to God, including your money.
@ Thanks for getting back to us! 100% agree 🙌 Everything about us belongs to God, including our money
Context is key. Are taxes and tithe the same thing? @@S.S.Gaiseb
Shout out to this church for at least defending the doctrine because many will just simply ignore the comments. I have to see the full context of this teaching because I have my own thoughts on tithing.
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It's our joy to thoughtfully engage with folks online 😊
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Tithing was for Israel, delivered as food to the Temple for the sustainance of the Priests.
None of these exist today.
Today we give free will offerings as members of the New Covenant. Nice try though 😏
Thanks for the comment @toolegittoquit_001, you bring up a good point that the physical temple and the laws associated with it don't apply today - those would be identified as ceremonial laws. But there were other laws, known as moral laws, that still have a fingerprint on our laws today (thou shall not murder, steal, etc). In terms of tithe, you're referencing the Levitical tithe, but there was also another tithe known as the "poor tithe." This tithe, hence the name, was collected for the sake of providing for the vulnerable. We reflect on the apostle Paul's words "remember the poor" and even Christ's words, "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." Jesus is no longer physically with us, but he did say "whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me." The poor were prioritized in the Torah before Jesus, in the Gospels when Jesus walked the earth and in Paul's letters after Jesus ascended. We want our treasures/resources to remember the poor as Christ soberly reminded us, "where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
Your perspective is appreciated and we value the conversation. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
@@GreenhouseChurchGNVYes we give to those in need, we give out of the joy of our heart to glory God. Tithing to a church isn’t required, although Benny hinn and many mega prosperity gospel churches would disagree.
God already blessed us believers, he don't cboose who he blesses and don't bless. He loves us all unconditionally. His love doesn't base on our performance.
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It's so true that God's unconditional love for us is not dependent on our performance. 💚
His blessings however are not strictly unconditional. For example, if someone claims to be in Christ and is living openly in sin, we would not expect God to bless that person in the same way as if they were seeking Him diligently in obedience. Now this is an extreme example, but the principle does follow that any area of our life that we do not surrender to God, that will mean to some extent that we are missing out on the fullness of blessing that God has for us.
Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 🙏
@GreenhouseChurchGNV Brother if you are truly in Christ, you inherit the Kingdom of the Father and it's blessings.
Matthew 7:11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!
Are you a father because I am and I love my kids unconditionally, even if one of my kids disobeys me, I may correct and discipline him but it doesn't mean he/she don't have access to my wealth anymore. He/she will still eat the same food that we all eat and sleep in the comfortable bed we all have. I take care of my kids whether they obey or disobey, it's my job as their father. If we were that gracious to our kids, what more is God as our father?
@@ulyssescasio9939 Thanks for getting back to us 😊
Great example of unconditional love as a father! It sounds like you love your children very much and nothing can change that 💚
Just as an example, say you give one of your children a car as a gift and then they begin to drive it irresponsibly, despite your many warnings against it. They continue to ignore your pleading with them to be careful and eventually they total their car and say "Since I'm your child, I can behave any way I want and since you love me, you have to give me a new car." Giving them a new car would not be a loving thing to do, since they proved they cannot handle the responsibility associated with that privilege. You may even say something like "I would love to provide you with another car, however you have demonstrated that you are a danger to yourself and to others on the road. If you improve your driving, I will buy you another car after awhile. If you don't improve your driving, I can't in good conscience gift you with another car. You'll have to depend on other means of getting around if you choose to continue being irresponsible." This doesn't mean that you don't love them unconditionally anymore, or they don't have a place to live, food to eat, a school to go to, etc, they just don't have access to your full generosity.
100% agree with Ephesians 1:3 where it says "Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavens in Christ." Just because we have the spiritual blessings of Christ, namely salvation, being adopted as his children, etc., does not mean that we don't have to do the difficult work of sanctification by the Spirit so that we can grow in maturity. Some things are a given no matter what: God's unconditional love for us in Christ being one of them.
Hope this helps clarify some of our perspective! Be blessed today! 🙏
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV Amen. Everything you said is correct. My point is, God doesn't stop or minimize his blessings even if we disobey or fall short, yes he will teach/discipline us, but still it's a form of blessing, everything that comes from God is a blessing even if it's not financial blessing. Remember the parable of vineyard workers? The landowner pays everyone the same, regardless of how long they worked. Might seem unfair to us but it's fair to God. This is the law of Grace under the new covenant. I just don't want a believer in Christ to think they are not getting blessed because they are giving less. That would not give them joy that the Lord promised us all. God bless you brother.
@@ulyssescasio9939 Blessings to you as well!
We are not suppose to tithe in the new covenant pastors can work like Paul did
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We are definitely blessed to have the option to provide for ourselves and our families outside of a ministry income.
Also such an encouragement that we are under grace and not under the law. As we see with the early church in Acts 2:32-35, "For there was not a needy person among them because all those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the proceeds of what was sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet. This was then distributed to each person as any had need." 💰
What a blessing it is to be able to exceed the 10% minimum of the law and be radically generous with those who are in need. ❤️
Does that mean we also abolish the 10 commandments? Because that’s in the old testaments as well .
They sold everything not 10 %
@@ReneKabui they didn’t get paid in cash like we are doing today . The cost of living back then was food . Nowadays, the cost of living is money etc paper money , coins , checks etc. What’s the difference?
Whoa to you pastors who try and add to or subtract from the word of God. If you say tithing is a rule that Christians have to follow, that means my salvation has a price and thats a lie from the pits of hell. Ephesians 2:9, not of works lest any man should boast.
Yall need to STOP telling people they have to tithe. The bible again tells us, let every man give as it is purposed in his heart.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! 😊
Totally agree that tithing/ giving/ generosity in no way determines a person's salvation. ❌
We would recommend watching the full message for more context. Just so you hear some of our heart as a church we feel called to be radically generous with all that the Lord has blessed us with. We strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached in our city and across the globe. We want the Lord to be pleased with how we steward our finances as a church. 💚
You can watch the full message here if you want! ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch
Be blessed today! 🙏
To those questioning whether or not it is a vital and practical practice for these days then perhaps you should reread Mark 12:17. Do not let the ignorance of the devils in your ears cause you to miss out on God's love and blessings. Wake up and run back to the Father you pharisees and you who practice lawlessness!
Hey, there @thewolverine9197! Thanks for sharing this Scripture with us. It's always important to consult the Bible for how the Lord wants us to handle our money 🤑
We hope you are blessed today! 😊
Watch the Father God not just show up, but show out when you honor Him with your first fruits!
Yes Jay!! Malachi 3:10 🙌
First fruits is today not 10%. Show me where Jesus or any apostles or disciples taught or did. Not there. Malichi is law and rebuke for their hearts not right. U can’t put a price on a gift to our Father
It’s a scam. If the first fruit is rotten and fake then so is the whole bundle
Jesus expects you to tithe. And he encouraged it
@@joshuawhitley5819 Jesus doesn’t require that of you. If you believe that then you missed the whole point of him destroying the temple markets. The tithing is a church desire as a part of the pyramid scheme
@@joshuawhitley5819 Jesus doesn’t require tithing. It is against what he taught when he destroyed the temple markets. It’s the church that wants your money
Hey, @americanearthling9671, thanks for sharing your thoughts! While many churches choose to handle their finances in different ways, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to global and local missions, outreach and the poor in our community (Gainesville, FL). We believe church should not be a club that offers perks to the members who pay their dues, but an outpost of generosity so that we can effectively minister the Gospel while meeting needs of those around us.
Huckster trying to twist scripture proverbs is wisdom, another one trying to indoctrinate you to give or you will go without Jesus’s promises.
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Very true that Proverbs is wisdom literature, and as such it has principles of wisdom that can be interpreted and applied to God's people throughout different cultures. It would seem based on the Proverbs that there is Biblical precedence for honoring the Lord with our wealth. In ancient times, wealth was measured in agriculture, today it can be measured in different ways such as income, net worth, etc. As a church, we simply feel called to freely honor the Lord with all that He has freely blessed us with. Just so you hear some of our heart as a church, we strive for 50% of what we spend to go to the poor, vulnerable, and unreached in our city and across the globe. 🌎
Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today 💚
Imagine paying PEOPLE $450 a moth in hope of god getting it bruh cmon
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Totally get where you're coming from. Many times it's hard to trace money that's given to any actual ministry or godly impact. Just so you can hear some of our heart, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to the poor, the vulnerable, and the unreached in our community and around the world. We feel called to be radically generous with all that God has blessed us so that our church family can know that when they give they're giving to build the Kingdom. 👑
Hope this is a helpful explanation! Be blessed today 💚
Pharisees want to return to old law measured giving; but if we today fail to "forsake all" we are not his disciples.
That's a great way to put it! Thanks for sharing ❤️
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Yes; "Jewish Roots Christianity" is a trick to hijack faith in these last days.
It’s called taxes
Good point!
As Jesus said in Matthew 22:21 "Give, then, to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s."
Yes, the Bible tells us to 10 percent of our income
For those who do practice tithing, our prayer would be that they do it out of love!
Remembering 1 Corinthians 13:3 - "If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing."
Help us to love with our resources Lord!
Does the Bible really teach that? I'd really like to see at least one verse, just one. Thanks 🙏
No, it doesn't because, tithing was never money in the OT.
Blah blah blah
Give him your money
He needs Jesus
Thanks for the comment @dh1510. We agree, we all need Jesus and his lordship in our lives. One of the instructions Jesus gave was "where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." At Greenhouse we take this so seriously that our aim is to spend about 50% of everything that comes in on the poor and the unreached, also remembering that Jesus associated the least of these with himself. We appreciate your pushback and we encourage financial accountability, so thanks for your comment and concern.
This is reading scripture without context
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It definitely can be hard to encapsulate all of the context of Scripture in a 60 second clip. We would recommend the full message for more context 💚
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you took all the verses out of context
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We would say the full length message gives more context than the 60 second clip. You can watch that here if you'd like ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenhouseChurch
If we took anything out of context, we'd be grateful to know your perspective on that as well. 💚
Be blessed today! 🙏
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV everything you said is taken out of context, tithing is no longer relevant. You even said malachi 3:10 is tithing? it is a rebuke for the corrupt priest. Malachi, a prophet in the days of Nehemiah, directs his message of judgment to a people plagued with corrupt priests, wicked practices, and a false sense of security in their privileged relationship with God. Using the question-and-answer method, Malachi probes deeply into their problems of hypocrisy, infidelity, mixed marriages, divorce, false worship, and arrogance. tithing is only a practice for the jews in old testament, and it is a part of the mosaic law, and when the salvation was given to the gentiles we are no longer under the law but by grace, Jesus also said He came to fulfill the law. Secondly, you will never find tithe as silver/gold or any form of money. the properity gospel churches twisting verses so that their members will give money.
And yet these same people worship Lucifer, alone, and refuse the appointed holy days of God.
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Hopefully you'll be relieved to hear us say that we can 100% assure you that we absolutely do not approve of devil worship in any form or fashion. ❌
We do not feel compelled to observe holy days or Sabbath days on any specific, particular day because of Colossians 2:16-17: "Therefore, don’t let anyone judge you in regard to food and drink or in the matter of a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of what was to come; the substance is Christ."
As well as Romans 14:5-6: "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord."
If you are fully convinced in your own mind to regard certain days as holy, you have 100% of our love and support. ❤️
Be blessed today! 🙏
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV Those Bible versus should convince you to stop celebrating Christmas (Ba'al/Saturn), stop celebrating Ashtoreth/Isis on Easter & stop worshiping on the wrong days PERIOD. It's not saying don't celebrate God's holy days it's saying not to let people judge you for not having a lot of excessive meats and wines on those appointed holy days. You are brainwashed to believe Corinthians 2 means whatever you want it to mean instead of what it does.
Romans 14; if that was about the appointed holy days than why was Paul himself keeping the Sabbath and the feast days way after Jesus?
You have no rational excuses for your worship of Lucifer and demanding of monies.
Yes, the Lord can and will bless you in this life. But don't freak out when He sends some ugly angels.
We appreciate you sharing Jon!
You dont understand the bible.
Hi, @caroljackson5051! Thanks for sharing your perspective with us 😊
Honoring the Lord with our wealth is a principle that we value as a church. We strive to give 50% of all we spend to global missions, local missions, and the poor. It grieves our heart that on average American Christians rank among the lowest in generosity, giving only about 2% of their income, despite being the wealthiest group of Christians in history. We believe that God has called us to be radically generous with the resources He's blessed us with. 🤗
We hope this clarifies some of our heart behind giving! Be blessed today. 🙌
So there would be food! Tithes were made of agricultural products, not money.
Great observation! It's so true, humanity has come a long way in commerce, trade, and economy through many different cultures since the Old and New Testaments have been written. And something that will never change is God's call for us to be generous with our resources and wealth. As a church, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to missions and the poor, not because we want people to think we're great, but because we want to honor the Lord with all He's blessed us with. 😊
Be blessed today! ❤️
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV That's AWESOME!!
Regular prosperity gospel teacher. Twists the scripture to get rich
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We understand where you're coming from! There are certainly churches that selfishly abuse their authority. Hopefully you'll be relieved to know that we have no intention of twisting Scripture for our own gain. In fact, as a church, we strive to give 50% of what we spend to widows, orphans, the vulnerable, and the unreached. Our heart is for Jesus' name to be high and exalted, and for His people to follow Him in obedience. We simply believe that God has called us to be radically generous. Jesus said "Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." 💚
Hope this is helpful! Be blessed today! 🙏
Context context context
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Another tithe preacher.
Thanks for the comment Edwin. We understand that tithing and money can be difficult subjects to pull from the text, but as Paul shared in one of his letters, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work (2 Tim 3:16,17). There will likely be many other difficult topics to teach on, and we will continue to pull from the scriptures, even if it's difficult.
@@GreenhouseChurchGNV your preacher use the book of Malachi to tell people to tithe, you know it also tells that they are under curse if they fail to tithe. Tithe in the old testament for Jews are their form of taxation, who among you are faithfully give a tenth of everything, because if not, do you accept your under a curse too?
The entire teaching actually pulls from a number of scriptures, including Proverbs and the Gospels, along with Malachi ua-cam.com/video/iiecq2gGXnc/v-deo.html
It will be proven to be correct
Thanks for the comment Jacob!
When and how?
You are welcome and try it and u will see