Elsa was mentally ill at that point. NOT a positive memory in her life. I thought of Buzz Lightyear's quote: "Oh, tell me I wasn't this delusional..." That song and catwalk "dance" were like the Joker's insane dance in that new film. She was becoming more and MORE unhinged.
@Black Rose That's just your real voice. Both air and your own bones conduct your voice, it's the bones that make it sound lower than it really is. Recordings don't lie, that's how everyone else hears you.
Anna: every Arendelian ship has a compartment, waterproof Olaf: that’s very clever, *though it makes you wonder why they don’t make the whole ship waterproof* Olaf would be great at CinemaSins
"At least they still have their parents!" "...Their parents are dead." This tiny bit is pure comedy gold. I lost my shit here the first time I saw this movie. I would have been pissed if this didn't get a sin off. Definitely agree that this is the best part of this movie
I rented it for the fact that I simply wanted to have watched it and it was another movie under my belt and I realised I had spent my money well when that scene came
That sin about Anna's hair tho As a person with long hair and people having fun with it, using different hairstyles, I can confirm that it's not logical for the braid to not have a tail.
I've seen this hairstyles where the tail of the braid is tucked in and pinned on one side or whatever so it blends in. That might have been what they were going for.
also if you do a waterfall braid its easier to hide the tail at least in my experience and when i do my hair the way anna's hair is i braid 2 braids back then pin the extra hair behind the opposite braid and let it fall it looks natural
In my experience with a similar hairstyle, I believe it's just one braid going from one side of her head to the other, and the tail is tucked neatly behind her ear with a little twist.
I KNOW. And Anna keeps getting upset and jumping to conclusions when Kristoff messes up proposing to her even though his clumsiness is supposed to be part of his charm!
I don't know, they had good chemistry in the first movie. Feels like they already have been falling apart relationship-wise and that there is potential for dissatisfaction in the next movie as a B plot. He's probably not gay, and the chemistry is more friendship (yes on screen chemistry doesn't always mean romantic interest. There is a problem with that in Hollywood already. Especially between cis males and females. )
The reason why the people of her kingdom were all up and dressed ready for the evacuation is because she woke them up minutes earlier by screaming “into the unknown” from her balcony
You forgot to point out that the random fact Olaf blurted out “water has memory” became a critical plot point many times later in the movie, and if he hadn’t said that, frozen 2 would have been a lot shorter
Yes and water has 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds remembering anything.
Two reasons the Nokk is a horse: 1. The Nokk in Norse mythology is a trickster similar to the Irish kelpie. Both lure people into the water to drown them. Since the Norse heavily influenced Celtic culture, the show creators decided to combine the Nokk and the kelpie. 2. In Greek mythology, horses were created by Poseidon, god of the sea, and were therefore associated with water. Since Frozen 2 uses the four classic Greek elements, it represents the water spirit with a horse.
@@123krevis because it's salamander. you can find them from fantasy games or fantasy stories ( like in harry potter said about salamanders the look like little lizard and living in fire their colors might be change white red or blue by the heat they're make )
About them sharing a room when they were younger: generally in noble/royal households babies and young children would share a "nursery" (think Wendy and her brothers in Peter Pan) this was really useful for the nannies and wetnurses since all the small kids were in one place. When the kids get older they get their own rooms. Hope this helps anyone else who was wondering :)
@@alize0623 Realistically speaking if they were real princesses and not Disney princesses they would would still have a nanny. But, nannies were sometimes called nurses (think Juliet's Nurse in Romeo and Juliet) sorry if I confused you
Also personal rooms are a relatively modern concept. Sleeping was a communal activity. Even those with their own bedroom might have a guest of the same sex assigned to sleep next to them when beds ran short. And the lower classes might pile around the fires ashes in the great hall or kitchen.
"Why does a horse represent water?" Kelpie, technically the water death horse is a kelpie. They are known for drowning and eating people. Not hate, just... Mythology. Nokk is the weird Kelpie, Gale is Gale, and Bruni is the adorable fuckery of fire.
I don’t know how in the USA, but in my country this joke with a waterproof ship is a joke that is older than me. Disney got so bad that they started stealing ancient jokes from the Internet for their films.
@@WalkingJellyfish So that would mean any other film in the world that used "ancient jokes" or mythology would be stealing. Interesting. 😕 Too bad no one cares.
Kendell Hagan :/ in a world with alchemically elemental spirit, ice magic, and posthumous communication via said ice magic...the thing you can’t believe is that Anna can outrun a giant?
Sokandueler95 she doesn't have any fricking powers, she is all human and those goddamn monsters were just.. Well, it's pretty easy to understand where I'm going here, only an idiot won't know.
I feel like Elsa would be cringing at Let it Go because of how it represented a dark time in her life. Sure she was free, but she was alone and she ran from her issues.
She was critcising Anna for her poor life choices, declared she would be on her own and do not give a damn about those people... only to realize that she was very wrong.
@@Crei-Cries when people mature, they don't want to be reminded by physical reminders of when they were in a rough place. They talk about it, but they don't like seeing what they did because they wish they did it differently.
Worse than that, she was mentally ill. Looking back, that song and catwalk dance were like Joker's insane dance in the new movie. More and more unhinged. Mental illness is UGLY in many ways.
Frozen 1: Elsa learns the importance of opening up to her sister and not handling her problems alone. Frozen 2: Elsa ditches her sister to try to solve her problems alone.
Frozen 1: hey would you like you to watch a girl learn how important it is to open up? Frozen 2-seconds later: Well screw that because she's gonna forget that 2 seconds after learning that
Honestly, she is basically a goddess at this point, she controls multiple elements of nature, can create snow, ice, and SENTIENT LIFE from nothing, and can now pull images and audio from decades into the past using nothing but slight moisture left at the scene. She could run a military state where the people would have to worship her as a goddess and no one would be able to do a thing about it if she really wanted to.
The "horse" is actually called a Nøkk, a water spirit from Scandinavian mythology. Frozen takes place in Scandinavia, which is why the water spirit is a Nøkk Edit: okay, yes, i know, Poseidon too. I get it now lol.
Yeah plus some of it is likely sequel baiting. Have to wait until frozen 3 to hear about xyz. They did scrap an idea for the plot so it also could be that they tried to form fit somethings together and it just felt off
I actually recognized several plot points. Marvel influences were HUGE on this film. Elsa and Anna were honestly made like Thor and Loki in many ways, and that dusting scene was DEFINITELY inspired by Infinity War. This movie often felt like Thor: The Dark World mixed with Spiderman: Far From Home.
When Olaf said (more or less)"If there's a waterproof compartment, then I wonder why they don't make the whole ship waterproof", you should've said "Olaf would be good at CinemaSins"
"Why does a horse represent water" that's a common representation in mythology. Poseidon, the God of the seas and water was also known as the father of the horses. It's believed that he taught humans how to tame horses.
No, I think it was a salt water spring he created when competing for Athens, I think he created horses to impress Demeter or something to do with a chariot? Idk Greek Mythologoly can be confusing lol
SuperCarlinBrothers made a theory video about how Frozen II could have been about Elsa learning to control other elements, and I kinda resent that it wasn’t entirely like that
I think we can all agree that frozen 2 seemed purely an aesthetic movie. Visuals were gorgeous, songs were great, character designs were put in slot of effort, the rest seems like it has to have a third movie just to make sense. I still feel like the movie is pleasing to watch if you don’t watch it logically and just watch it just to watch it. I still like it and the first one, I like the first one for its story and how iconic it was and the second one I like how it’s so pleasing to the eye and I like how it’s existence gave content creators more inspiration and motivation for their own frozen content. Not that I don’t feel infuriated at all the plot holes, dang it Disney give us an explanation movie or just tell us! Even some animated shorts, just answers! 👏
I feel like Frozen II was one of the only good Disney sequels in a long time. Don't get me wrong it wasn't perfect, the plot was a bit iffy, but I think a lot of people missed the superb character development in this movie. The characters personal problems all stem directly from their characterizations in the first movie. Anna, on top of her extremely isolated childhood, was traumatized by almost losing the only person in her life that she had left, and because of that became extremely dependent on and protective of Elsa, to the point of risking her other relationships. Frozen I basically gave her PTSD. Elsa learned to accept part of herself and let others help her deal with her problems, but the movie never addressed how she felt trapped by her responsibilities. Plus, she basically watched Anna die and blamed herself for it with all that frozen heart stuff. It makes sense that by Frozen II she'd still feel trapped, both by her responsibilities and by Anna's reliance on her, as well as that she'd feel the need to push Anna away when dangerous magic is involved. By the end of Frozen II both of these arcs are tied up into neat little bows through means that make sense. They both essentially learn that they can't just live for each other; they have to live their own lives.
I agree with you there. I love /watching/ the movie, it's beautiful, but I don't love /thinking/ about it. There's so many plot holes, especially ones that completely contradict the first movie/shorts/Jen Lee's comments.
Two of the songs were great, and Elsa got both of them. The soundtrack was not as good as it could have been (they cut a GREAT song 'Get This Right' for Kristoff's lame subplot), and nowhere near as good as the first film. But yeah, it's very aesthetic and this is most evident during Show Yourself--visually stunning but opens up so many plot holes about Elsa's mother and her powers.
So, maybe people have commented this already, but I was to put this out there just in case. The fire spirit is a salamander because, in Greek mythology, the mythological salamanders resided in fire and were resistant to it.
I think that's why the water spirit is a horse too. Honestly, the sin should have been more along the lines of questioning why they used Greek influences at all. 1) the movie is set in or around Norway, and 2) if you're going to use Greek mythology, why not relate all of they spirits back to Greek myths?
It's actually because salemanders used to live in logs and then when the logs were burned the flaming salemanders would run out of the log so norse people beleived that those salemanders were fire spirits
They have a lot of Greek and Norse references. Horses were created by Poseidon. In the first movie the book her dad looks in is written in elder Norse runes. There’s a ton more
The deleted scene in the Frozen II blu-ray/dvd extra had a scene where the parents were making a decision to let Anna know about her sister Elsa's hidden ice powers.
I saw this movie with my mother because she loved frozen 1, and she legitimately thought kristoffs song in the woods was a joke that they were going to stop after a couple seconds
Kristoff: Reindeers are better than people...Sven, don't you think that's true? Me in the theater the first time I saw this: Oh, a reprise to the song from the first movie. That's cool. *movie cuts to Sven, who starts "singing" on his own* Me: Wait, what? *song keeps going* Me: Oh my god make it stop...
When Christof proposed was anyone like: “Oh yeah. Christof wanted to get married” after having completely forgot because he sang a song and then just disappeared until the end of the movie.
Did they rip off that "Lost in the Woods" scene from Guardians of the Galaxy? I seem to remember Peter Quill singing an 80s style love song while dancing in a forest.
All the other elements actually had things to represent them. Fire: salamander. Water: horse. Earth: giants. The wind? It was literally just wind. Wind blowing a few leaves around so we could actually see something there, but still just wind. Like what the hell? No bird or something?
The ACTUAL five elements in real life are: Fire, Water, Earth, Air and Sky. So yeah, fuck this movie. Elsa should be the sixth element for all I'm concerned.
9:00 You blew it! Olaf's line after "That's very clever..." was "Although it does make me wonder why they didn't make the whole ship waterproof." I mean, Olaf would be amazing at Cinemasins. Also, this was an obvious joke about why they don't make the planes out of the same stuff they make the black boxes out of.
The tail of the braid is hidden under the rest of her hair. I’ve done that exact hairstyle, I agree though. There really isn’t a way to make it look that seamless
“Show Yourself” would’ve given the climax of the plot away and “Into the Unknown” is the better teaser... which is probably why they went with it for advertising
i do agree that Show Yourself is way better than Into the Unknown, but using that in the advertising would’ve been a TERRIBLE idea. Show Yourself is a song near the end of the movie that’s very important to the story and using it in advertising would’ve spoiled the climax of the movie, while Into the Unknown is a catchy song near the start of the movie that doesn’t spoil anything major.
I'm surprised you didn't sin Anna's immature treatment of Kristoff. She gets so easily upset, defensive, or accusatory before he's done proposing. It makes me think that the pairing is a mistake.
She is paranoid about what he thinks of her because of how people have treated her in the past (partially Hans and partially the basically having no human interaction from ages 8ish-18)
That was intentional. The creators wanted to illustrate how Anna was paranoid about Elsa. This is something she eventually resolves at the end. Doesn't really count as a sin.
Can we talk about the abrupt change of clothing when they all evacuated with nothing? Because I spent a solid five minutes wondering whether they went back in just for an outfit change.
Thank you I love cinima sins but I was about to go full on caps on this dude also sense he has done BOTH Percy Jackson movies you would think he would know this or at least do more research about this I mean seriously this is a simple fact you can find on Google...omgosh I am becoming cinima sins after watching so many...so I am gonna 1 more cinima sin for this to the last score lol
I wish the end of credits scene was hans with scars all over his face big ass beard and a cloak and hes just sitting there sharpening his sword and just says its time to finish what I started
Ohhh I would've loved it if Hans returned. But this time, give him the chance to explain his motives a bit more and a better backstory. And then, with the help of some magic, seriously tricking Kristoff in dumping Anna, after which Hans shows he's 'a better person now' and tries to marry her. I mean, something like that, I don't know.
When Elsa said "Ahtohallen is frozen" I am SHOCKED that we didn't get a "roll credits!" I guess she didn't say "Frozen 2" per say but close enough. For this, I am adding one sin to the total Cinemasins channel sin counter.
No, I actually found it to be awful and cringey af, and I grew up in the 80s. The reference was lost on today's kids (my 9 year old daughter even stated that she didn't understand why that song was like that)
No one is acting, because it really wasn't. It was boring and incredibly pointless. The issue was literally never brought up again for the rest of the film. He went from feeling lost and confused and she went from feeling insecure and worried, to them suddenly being engaged. It was somehow even more convenient than the fact that destroying the dam saved Elsa.
"Why is Elsa so embarrassed to see the "Let it go" scene?" I actually can related to that, I sometimes do things like present in piano recitals and even if I didn't do anything wrong, I feel cringy if I see a video of myself in the event
Yep why do you always cringe at that? It's like making a picture of yourself and looking at it a week later Even at the funny link like this ¦ ¦ ua-cam.com/video/Kn_i63oyOX0/v-deo.html
I used to have aquatherapy for a pain disorder and I had to search for months, but eventually I was able to put on and retain a full face of makeup. 😜 Channeled my inner Elsa Goddess at a young age I guess. 🤣
@@SunflowerSpotlight You need to swim with make-up? Can't give it a miss for a while? Women and girls nowadays seem to be addicted to face paint as if it's a vital necessity. No interest in natural beauty at all. I wonder why they cherish artificiality that much. And Disney is copying that fashion. Elsa is sleeping with that make-up of hers. The Frozen girls even walk around in high heels ... high heels in a forest! 😖
I got angry when watching the death scenes, because part of me knew, as impactful as Elsa and Olaf's deaths would be, Disney would be sure to bring them back. Had the 2 of them actually been allowed to perish, I think the ending could have been a lot more powerful, Ana having to step up as Queen for real and lead in spite of losing her entire family.
As a big sister- the girls sharing a room as kids is not a space issue. When my sister and I were little we didn’t use the spare bedroom in our house because being alone in a room at night at such a young age was scary af.
have y'all listened to the outtake Get This Right where kristoff sings and at the end is proposed *by anna* and then she joins him singing?? (u can also look it up and watch the storyboard) yeah im still pissed off it didn't make into the movie or at least turned into a post credit scene or sumn
Just a rewrite of the movie that I think would’ve been better: -The girls should’ve found a book in the castle’s library about the northuldra people and remembered their mother singing about attohollan and the scarf thing her mother wore. This could’ve been the way to find out more about their mother and where she came from. (This way Elsa doesn’t find herself by a mysterious voice that has no explanation) -Sven and Kristoff should’ve been from the enchanted forest but were trapped outside which is how he ended up with the ice men in the beginning of frozen 2 and eventually the trolls. (This would’ve given kristoff a meaningful subplot and we would’ve learned more about the natives and their way of life.) -the breaking of the dam should’ve torn through Arendelle to make the story more meaningful by making peace with the northuldra. (This stops the issue of elsa’s impossibility of stopping the tidal wave and shows the consequences and effects of native hostility of a nations past instead of covering it up and coming out on top once again.)
I like what u said, but the last point is kinda harsh. I wouldn't like to get punished for my ancestor's mistake. I mean, the king's father was evil, but maybe his ancestors were good people. There is always an error in a systam, but we don't need to erase the whole thing, we just have to find the mistake and fix it.
@@joeyjoe694 nobody wants it, but like, (I hope u watch game theory cuzzzz....) minecraft theories, ancient builders, pigmen still have a grudge with how they would kill them for food Sooooo For the Northaldran (idk how to spell it) people, you would have wanted them to let it destroy Arendelle to show everLASTING peace w them. But not so much for the people of Arendelle. It's just the right thing to do. I think it's like saying "oh, we care, but not as much as we care for the descendants who stabbed you in the back"
7:05 Yes "a cute lizard" also known as a SALAMANDER. There is lore of Salamanders being born from fire, but this is only true because the salamanders would lay sleeping on the rocks of dying campfires due to the warmth from the fire and them being cold blooded. As the dwellers came out to rekindle the fire, the salamanders would skitter away from the coals/fire and leave ashes and fire wisps behind them, thus making the people think Salamanders were born from fire. This is also why in Pokemon, Charmander is a Fire Salamander, a Charred Salamander.
@@LesbiansMarie He evolves into a Dragon, since Fire Salamander being a lizard, and dragon's being "an over-sized lizard" Pokemon took the opportunity.
Dubstequtie Finally someone said it, and not only that, A LOT of thing have an explanation: 1.- It is implied many times (even in the books and comics) that Elsa is as warm as a normal human being, but she can bend ice/snow, and since she’s the 5º spirit, she can withstand really cold temperatures. 2.- The Nokk is a Mythical Creature that usually appears as a horse and drowns not-worthy people, that’s why it represents water. 3.- Frozen has always been about Elsa and Anna, and everyone else is just there to help them. Between Frozen and Frozen 2 are MANY adventures and character development. So, Elsa’s motivation was always (since the 1st one) to find herself, because she finds her powers as a curse rather than a blessing, it is always hard for her to control them, she is gradually improving little by little. By the end of the movie she finally know who she is and why is she like that. 4.- Oaken still has his store in the wild, but it’s shown in the Frozen shorts that he usually travels to Arendelle with some stuff to sale. 5.- The elementals are angry towards the things that happened in the past and claim the price of the kingdom itself, but not the people, that’s why in the movie they say that the spirits took out the people and waited for them to be saved and later on destroy the kingdom. 6.- There where around 30 deleted scenes in Frozen 2, and in some of them explains the prophecy of why they called Elsa at that time. 7.- Olaf just said in scenes earlier that “water has memory”, that’s why Elsa said that those where frozen moments of the past. 8.- The one that was calling her is the river itself (Ahtohallan), the river was using Queen Iduna’s voice to call Elsa (Iduna had a strong knowledge and relationship with the spirits), because “water has memory”. 9.- Elsa was being called by the river itself, but Elsa herself is the 5th spirit, the spirits also were guiding her to take her place where she belongs. 10.- Elsa sacrificed herself to save her people from mistakes she didn’t do, she reborns and transforms into an OP transformation spirit, sounds familiar? 11.- Queen Iduna’s secret wasn’t that “she was Northuldra”, in many shorts and scenes is obvious that Agnarr already knew, her secret was the prophecy.
1:16 as someone who has a sister, there's no need to sin this part of the movie. at my family's first house, there were two rooms that i could've had all to myself. but i chose to have a bedroom with my sister for about 7 years. they clearly love each other so much and are best friends because they're sisters, so they want to share a room.
AnathemaAddy yeah..... that’s what I always thought when I watched that first video in frozen. They adore each other, and they love spending time together, they *want* to share a bedroom
"Movie makes it seem like the still-young Mattias is still going to be attracted to the now-much-older Halima" Mattias is certainly not "still young". The curse on the Enchanted Forest didn't freeze time, it just kept anyone from entering or leaving. Mattias still aged at the same rate as anyone else. He just looks good for his age, I guess.
What bugged me is that if time didn’t stop, they should have given the clothes some wear and tear. His uniform was PERFECT. It had been, what, 20-25 years? Right.
@@ranow_racer2512 why would a CoROnatIoN happen during the statue unveiling ceremony???? Don't you think it would be two separate days? :/ Don't you remember how Elsa's coronation took place.
Well its obviously the coronation as well, cuz anna had the crown on, and a dress coming out of the castle coming to unveil the statue. Its not impossible for both to happen you know.
In Greek mythology Poseidon created horses out of seawater and ever since they’ve been used to symbolize water. Some legends say that rogue waves are mischievous water spirits that most often take the form of a horse
Actually it was because the they were originally gonna have a horse (Nokk). And one of the directors really like surfing (directed surf’s up) so he’s like “hey let’s make a ocean wave horse”
I feel every sin in this is relatively explainable, but you failed to mention the largest issue. Elsa was supposed to save the forest as the fifth spirit then FROZE IT. As if the not so winter bearing trees wouldn’t hibernate along w the animals eternally, because the forest is now frozen eternally. She literally killed the forest. That was my only issue tbh
Has anyone ever thought about the sentence that they said in the forest “34 years”They’ve been trapped in there. Elsa is 24 and Anna is 21 in this movie so......How old was the king and queen when they had them? Cause they looked pretty young in the flashback.
I am now thinking about the morbid hilarity that would be a Frozen rewrite where Elsa just scolds the shit out of everyone. But yeah that would be a WAY different movie.
16:03 Electricity/plasma should be the fifth spirit, because lightning can: Damage Earth, possibly lift it and shoot straight through it, can cause Fire, can direct water by coming up through the water, and can slice through the wind. Easy.
Dude, the 5th spirit isn't a 5th element. The 5th spirit is the bridge between humans and spirits. Elsa's ice magic is a gift from the spirits and Ahtohallan, not a secondary water spirit.
"well at least they have their parents..."
"their parents are *_dead_* "
that recap of the first film is my favourite bit
That exact part was my favorite
That part made me burst into laughter. XD
@@cintronproductions9430 it made everyone laugh! we went to see it on a school reward trip
That's definitely the best part of the whole movie xD
Omg right?
Kristoff: I know the woods.
Proceeds to sing about how he’s lost in the woods
Yea we all knew he’s the type to not ask for directions
Well this is like a guy refusing to ask for directions.
@Gravity Falls Guy [The trio of awesomeness] He's a male. They never ask directions. What did you expect?
He means emotionally
He's emotionally lost
*Ah yes, The Five Elemental Spirits:*
Air, Earth, Fire, Water and *Slightly Colder Water.*
ah yes, mythology
Ikr
Shoulda been plasma if ye asked me
Wait, somebody explain why the covenant is at my place already?
There’s six. The sixth spirit is bullsh*t. It’s an owl for some reason.
But everything changed when the *Slightly Colder Water* attacked
I agree that Elsa wouldn’t find “Let it Go” as annoying as most viewers do. But have you ever heard your own voice on recording, and NOT cringed?
Elsa was mentally ill at that point. NOT a positive memory in her life. I thought of Buzz Lightyear's quote: "Oh, tell me I wasn't this delusional..." That song and catwalk "dance" were like the Joker's insane dance in that new film. She was becoming more and MORE unhinged.
I agree, when my voice is recorded I sound like a cartoon character and I hate it
@Black Rose That's just your real voice. Both air and your own bones conduct your voice, it's the bones that make it sound lower than it really is. Recordings don't lie, that's how everyone else hears you.
@@Boltscrap that's the fucking problem.
Right like we shouldn't talk about that song it was just terrible
I’m surprised he didn’t say anything about Anna’s “I like you better in leather” line.
I was so waiting for that!
Because he will have to remove a sin 😂
Because he will have to remove a sin 😂
what does that mean
@@orxnges561 There's... uhh a double meaning.
Anna: every Arendelian ship has a compartment, waterproof
Olaf: that’s very clever, *though it makes you wonder why they don’t make the whole ship waterproof*
Olaf would be great at CinemaSins
Lmao
I actually thought this as I was watching the movie.
@@wizard_chicken1446 same
Omfg yes
Firestardude cuz then it would be too heavy.
him: why does a horse represent water?
me: and why does a lizard represent fire?
Salamander..
mandarin
Dragons?
Because lizards taste good when they're roasted over a fire.
I'd agree with the people here and say fire salamander
9:00 How could you not include "Olaf would be excellent at CinemaSins?" when he literally says they should make the whole ship waterproof.
I actually said that in the theater 💀I was so disappointed by this
I had the exact same thought
Olaf’s sarcastic tho
Olaf is probably the only reason I watch the movie lmao
Was literally thinking about this when I watched it the first time xD
"At least they still have their parents!"
"...Their parents are dead."
This tiny bit is pure comedy gold. I lost my shit here the first time I saw this movie. I would have been pissed if this didn't get a sin off. Definitely agree that this is the best part of this movie
Wow so dark
no it's "...Their parents are *_dead"_*
I rented it for the fact that I simply wanted to have watched it and it was another movie under my belt and I realised I had spent my money well when that scene came
olaf is the only good thing abt this movie
dark humor
The reason that a horse represents water is because it’s supposed to be a kelpie I think, a mythical aquatic horse that fucking drowns everybody.
Anonymous Flamingo
Yes
I only know this from the SMT games
Plus it tried to drown Elsa too
Like I said I only know them from the SMT games so I guess nokk is another name
I assumed it was because Posideon was the Greek god of water AND horses
@@leslieandry250 that's what i was thinking
YAS! YAS! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!!
That sin about Anna's hair tho
As a person with long hair and people having fun with it, using different hairstyles, I can confirm that it's not logical for the braid to not have a tail.
I've seen this hairstyles where the tail of the braid is tucked in and pinned on one side or whatever so it blends in. That might have been what they were going for.
also if you do a waterfall braid its easier to hide the tail at least in my experience and when i do my hair the way anna's hair is i braid 2 braids back then pin the extra hair behind the opposite braid and let it fall it looks natural
It is, skill issue.
In my experience with a similar hairstyle, I believe it's just one braid going from one side of her head to the other, and the tail is tucked neatly behind her ear with a little twist.
@@LordOfElysium the fact that Anna's hair didn't change at all during that rough adventure is still sinful.
I'm surprised there were no Avatar: The Last Airbender jokes here.
I blame The Fire Nation. For attacking. Again.
Or Captain Planet jokes
I made that joke at the start of the movie when Elsa and Anna dad was telling the story
There is one but okay
Fire, Water, Ice, Spirits. Throw in a vacuum cleaner and you have Luigi's Mansion
“Why does a horse represent water?”
Poseidon, God of the Sea, created horses in Greek Myth?
Good point though
Agreed 😂
I just wanted to comment that, but thought: "Wait, what if someone commented this already?"
So I looked and yes, someone did.
Thanks :D
oooo yeah i was gonna comment that
Okay but what does Greek mythology have to do with a story clearly based on a Nordic setting?
Why isn't there a sin about the reindeer guy having more chemistry with Kristoff than Anna
and that’s the tea
I KNOW. And Anna keeps getting upset and jumping to conclusions when Kristoff messes up proposing to her even though his clumsiness is supposed to be part of his charm!
millie bobby brown wait for the next movie, Kristoff leaves her and has two kids with the other reindeer guy. That’s the movie I want to see!!
@@sandman4111 let me second that movie x'D
I don't know, they had good chemistry in the first movie. Feels like they already have been falling apart relationship-wise and that there is potential for dissatisfaction in the next movie as a B plot. He's probably not gay, and the chemistry is more friendship (yes on screen chemistry doesn't always mean romantic interest. There is a problem with that in Hollywood already. Especially between cis males and females. )
Random woman in the village: “there is a 5th spirit!”
Me: it’s Elsa
Elsa at the end of the movie: “I am the 5th spirit”
Me: *surprised pikachu face*
I guessed it too
@@janzepirnar8275 Well it’s not that strange if they think that, I mean elsa’s the main character
Not random women. Honeymaren
Thanks Skid and Pump, very cool
420th like lmaoooooo
The reason why the people of her kingdom were all up and dressed ready for the evacuation is because she woke them up minutes earlier by screaming “into the unknown” from her balcony
Hahahahaha that makes sense actually. I can finally sleep in peace
Wow-
That actually makes a lot of sense. They were probably getting ready to go tell Elsa something for waking them up 💀💀
Oh great. The queen is singing loudly to herself again. Now what crazy thing is she about to do?
Omg I'm laughing
Don’t whoosh me, but that’s not true. It would wake them up, not tell them there impending doom.
You forgot to point out that the random fact Olaf blurted out “water has memory” became a critical plot point many times later in the movie, and if he hadn’t said that, frozen 2 would have been a lot shorter
I feel like a 6-year-old is gonna try to listen to water after hearing that.
Yes and water has 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds remembering anything.
Two reasons the Nokk is a horse:
1. The Nokk in Norse mythology is a trickster similar to the Irish kelpie. Both lure people into the water to drown them. Since the Norse heavily influenced Celtic culture, the show creators decided to combine the Nokk and the kelpie.
2. In Greek mythology, horses were created by Poseidon, god of the sea, and were therefore associated with water. Since Frozen 2 uses the four classic Greek elements, it represents the water spirit with a horse.
AtarahDerek this is probably the reason why, but also Poseidon (God of the Sea) in greek mythology created horses as well.
@@mitchellschaaf602 Is there an echo in here?
AtarahDerek awe shit, didn’t see the “read more” it ended perfectly at the first one
Is there any reason why the fire spirit is a tiny gecko? or is it a lizard? regardless
@@123krevis because it's salamander. you can find them from fantasy games or fantasy stories ( like in harry potter said about salamanders the look like little lizard and living in fire their colors might be change white red or blue by the heat they're make )
About them sharing a room when they were younger: generally in noble/royal households babies and young children would share a "nursery" (think Wendy and her brothers in Peter Pan) this was really useful for the nannies and wetnurses since all the small kids were in one place. When the kids get older they get their own rooms. Hope this helps anyone else who was wondering :)
starshine records they looked too old for a wet nurse.
@@alize0623 Realistically speaking if they were real princesses and not Disney princesses they would would still have a nanny. But, nannies were sometimes called nurses (think Juliet's Nurse in Romeo and Juliet) sorry if I confused you
Also personal rooms are a relatively modern concept. Sleeping was a communal activity. Even those with their own bedroom might have a guest of the same sex assigned to sleep next to them when beds ran short. And the lower classes might pile around the fires ashes in the great hall or kitchen.
Thought this was pretty normal for every class of people.
@@pixelroze2868 Since Anna and Elsa are princesses it made the most sense to use noble/royal families for context.
'Anna, you are the most extraordinary person I've ever known."
'Dude, Elsa's standing RIGHT THERE. That's just rude!'
TEARS
Same 🤣🤣
"Why does a horse represent water?"
Kelpie, technically the water death horse is a kelpie. They are known for drowning and eating people. Not hate, just... Mythology.
Nokk is the weird Kelpie, Gale is Gale, and Bruni is the adorable fuckery of fire.
Also, Poseidon (water god) made the horses
And Stone giants how bout them ?
@@Profile_Profile_Underscore the Titans.
PJ Dianalan
Wouldn’t golems also work? They’re made of clay but they’re also humanoid.
So the murder pony term is pretty accurate, huh?
There was a perfect chance for you to make a “Everything Changed When The Fire Nation Attacked” sin, but you didn’t. Sin for you.
The turn tables
Oh my gosh! ☠️ He totally missed the opportunity! 🤣
I was going to make this comment too.
I too was disappointed by the lack of avatar jokes
I'm watching avatar currently and am hap
9:00 You guys missed a sin:
Olaf: "Why didn't they make the whole ship waterproof"
CinemaSins: "Olaf would be very good at CinemaSins"
I watched the movie yesterday and I said that and like how did he not acknowledge that
i was looking for this comment!
I don’t know how in the USA, but in my country this joke with a waterproof ship is a joke that is older than me. Disney got so bad that they started stealing ancient jokes from the Internet for their films.
that’s EXACTLY what i thought when i saw it in theaters
@@WalkingJellyfish So that would mean any other film in the world that used "ancient jokes" or mythology would be stealing. Interesting. 😕 Too bad no one cares.
“I’d remove all the sins from every movie and retire if Anna and Kristoff turned this into a hardcore sex film right now”
I was LOOKING for this comment.
so was i!, it would've made it better 100% cause this frozen sucked ice! lol
Dear god. I now have cursed images in my mind *thinking* of that.
It probably exist somewhere.
Just google it lmao
I’m disappointed that he didn’t sin Anna being able to run from the giant rock monsters on FOOT!!!
While dodging huge boulders or trees or some shit
Kendell Hagan :/ in a world with alchemically elemental spirit, ice magic, and posthumous communication via said ice magic...the thing you can’t believe is that Anna can outrun a giant?
In heels too
Is NO ONE going to point out that Elsa's "dress" for most of this film looks EXACTLY like a superhero outfit (complete with a cape)?
Sokandueler95 she doesn't have any fricking powers, she is all human and those goddamn monsters were just.. Well, it's pretty easy to understand where I'm going here, only an idiot won't know.
I feel like Elsa would be cringing at Let it Go because of how it represented a dark time in her life. Sure she was free, but she was alone and she ran from her issues.
She was critcising Anna for her poor life choices, declared she would be on her own and do not give a damn about those people... only to realize that she was very wrong.
or, you know, sometimes it's hard to watch yourself perform because cringe
And other people would be cringing at their edgy emo phase, bUt YoU sHoUlDnT cAuSe YoU bEcAmE fReEeEeEe
@@Crei-Cries when people mature, they don't want to be reminded by physical reminders of when they were in a rough place. They talk about it, but they don't like seeing what they did because they wish they did it differently.
Worse than that, she was mentally ill. Looking back, that song and catwalk dance were like Joker's insane dance in the new movie. More and more unhinged. Mental illness is UGLY in many ways.
Frozen 1: Elsa learns the importance of opening up to her sister and not handling her problems alone.
Frozen 2: Elsa ditches her sister to try to solve her problems alone.
frozen 2 plot twist: elsa is tripping balls talking about a mysterious voice and a forgotten forest and we are viewing her acid trip
Frozen 1: hey would you like you to watch a girl learn how important it is to open up?
Frozen 2-seconds later: Well screw that because she's gonna forget that 2 seconds after learning that
Just like Venelope in Wreck It Ralph 2 ...
@@javierquiroz228 Or Ralph himself
Detector: Let’s break the logic that we made with the first movie 🎥
People: Yes that’s perfect!!!
Honestly, she is basically a goddess at this point, she controls multiple elements of nature, can create snow, ice, and SENTIENT LIFE from nothing, and can now pull images and audio from decades into the past using nothing but slight moisture left at the scene. She could run a military state where the people would have to worship her as a goddess and no one would be able to do a thing about it if she really wanted to.
The "horse" is actually called a Nøkk, a water spirit from Scandinavian mythology. Frozen takes place in Scandinavia, which is why the water spirit is a Nøkk
Edit: okay, yes, i know, Poseidon too. I get it now lol.
Or it is free because Poseidon the god of the sea made the first horse out of sea foam
@@thegreenemerald800 Well, the creators said Frozen takes place in Scandinavia, but that makes sense too
The Green Emerald or it’s because there’s other mythologies and not just greek
@@Antagonistic. He Didn't say that the Greek mythology was the only mythology he just pointing something out
Magnus Chase much
I feel like they had too many ideas and didn’t go deep into each one.
Yeah plus some of it is likely sequel baiting. Have to wait until frozen 3 to hear about xyz. They did scrap an idea for the plot so it also could be that they tried to form fit somethings together and it just felt off
Marichu Well, at least they didn’t go too deep into one of them. Otherwise, they might’ve drowned.
420th like.
Let it go....LET IT GO!
I actually recognized several plot points. Marvel influences were HUGE on this film. Elsa and Anna were honestly made like Thor and Loki in many ways, and that dusting scene was DEFINITELY inspired by Infinity War. This movie often felt like Thor: The Dark World mixed with Spiderman: Far From Home.
When Olaf said (more or less)"If there's a waterproof compartment, then I wonder why they don't make the whole ship waterproof", you should've said "Olaf would be good at CinemaSins"
Ian K I was just thinking that too!! 😂
True
Should've removed another sin lol
Lol but they basically do, that's why ships don't sink unless something goes horribly horribly wrong
Ian K why do we have the same thinking?
"Why does a horse represent water" that's a common representation in mythology. Poseidon, the God of the seas and water was also known as the father of the horses. It's believed that he taught humans how to tame horses.
True, except this movie was based on Norse mythology, meaning the horse is a kelpie which is why it tried to drown Elsa.
Wrong mythology, the Norse one is Kelpie, a violent sea spirit which tried to drown her
Caroline Araujo What you've just said,remind me of Age of Mythology's Trojan horse mission. In there Odysseus said that exactly.
He also created horses, as a gift for Athens when he and Athena were competing to be Athens’ patron god?
No, I think it was a salt water spring he created when competing for Athens, I think he created horses to impress Demeter or something to do with a chariot? Idk Greek Mythologoly can be confusing lol
Elsa would be excellent at Avatar: The Last Snowbender
Megamaster 64 lmao yes
Hishe made a joke about that.
Frozen 3: Elsa the Last Snowbender :D
SuperCarlinBrothers made a theory video about how Frozen II could have been about Elsa learning to control other elements, and I kinda resent that it wasn’t entirely like that
PIN
"Why does a horse represent water"
In greek mythology poseidon created the first horse from the sea foam, so probably that. Bit obscure though.
Or it could be because of kelpies the horses that drowned people after tricking them to ride them
THANK you!
It's not really obscure but yeah that's the reason
Or maybe it's a seahorse
Talking about greek mythology, there is a part where the guy mentions the 'dam celebration party' *instant percy jackson dam snack bar flashbacks*
Where’s the “and it all changed when the fire nation attacked” joke
Kateypops gone reduced to atoms
Maybe they did not say that joke because its dumb
I think we can all agree that frozen 2 seemed purely an aesthetic movie. Visuals were gorgeous, songs were great, character designs were put in slot of effort, the rest seems like it has to have a third movie just to make sense. I still feel like the movie is pleasing to watch if you don’t watch it logically and just watch it just to watch it.
I still like it and the first one, I like the first one for its story and how iconic it was and the second one I like how it’s so pleasing to the eye and I like how it’s existence gave content creators more inspiration and motivation for their own frozen content.
Not that I don’t feel infuriated at all the plot holes, dang it Disney give us an explanation movie or just tell us! Even some animated shorts, just answers! 👏
I feel like Frozen II was one of the only good Disney sequels in a long time. Don't get me wrong it wasn't perfect, the plot was a bit iffy, but I think a lot of people missed the superb character development in this movie. The characters personal problems all stem directly from their characterizations in the first movie.
Anna, on top of her extremely isolated childhood, was traumatized by almost losing the only person in her life that she had left, and because of that became extremely dependent on and protective of Elsa, to the point of risking her other relationships. Frozen I basically gave her PTSD.
Elsa learned to accept part of herself and let others help her deal with her problems, but the movie never addressed how she felt trapped by her responsibilities. Plus, she basically watched Anna die and blamed herself for it with all that frozen heart stuff. It makes sense that by Frozen II she'd still feel trapped, both by her responsibilities and by Anna's reliance on her, as well as that she'd feel the need to push Anna away when dangerous magic is involved.
By the end of Frozen II both of these arcs are tied up into neat little bows through means that make sense. They both essentially learn that they can't just live for each other; they have to live their own lives.
I agree with you there. I love /watching/ the movie, it's beautiful, but I don't love /thinking/ about it. There's so many plot holes, especially ones that completely contradict the first movie/shorts/Jen Lee's comments.
Two of the songs were great, and Elsa got both of them. The soundtrack was not as good as it could have been (they cut a GREAT song 'Get This Right' for Kristoff's lame subplot), and nowhere near as good as the first film. But yeah, it's very aesthetic and this is most evident during Show Yourself--visually stunning but opens up so many plot holes about Elsa's mother and her powers.
Same opinion
So, maybe people have commented this already, but I was to put this out there just in case. The fire spirit is a salamander because, in Greek mythology, the mythological salamanders resided in fire and were resistant to it.
Wren Unknown i believe this movie’s references are largely norse, but fun fact :)
I think that's why the water spirit is a horse too. Honestly, the sin should have been more along the lines of questioning why they used Greek influences at all. 1) the movie is set in or around Norway, and 2) if you're going to use Greek mythology, why not relate all of they spirits back to Greek myths?
It's actually because salemanders used to live in logs and then when the logs were burned the flaming salemanders would run out of the log so norse people beleived that those salemanders were fire spirits
They seem like dragons too so
They have a lot of Greek and Norse references. Horses were created by Poseidon. In the first movie the book her dad looks in is written in elder Norse runes. There’s a ton more
Elsa: “Everyone I’ve ever loved is here between these walls”
Elsa’s parents: “first of all, that’s harsh”
That's what I said!!!!!! But me mom said that because there dead.
@@jayneb6053 to hide her powers
Elsa: I know what I said.
The deleted scene in the Frozen II blu-ray/dvd extra had a scene where the parents were making a decision to let Anna know about her sister Elsa's hidden ice powers.
THEIR PARENTS ARE DEAD
No, when Elsa sings the kingdom is just like: "Crap, the queen is singing again"
Ahh... the princess is singing at three in the morning again
SHUT UP ELSA!! GODDAMMIT!
Me when the neighbour's daughter start shreik singing at three am:
God fu-
Me: Yay! Go Elsa!
“Big Summer Blow-out” man should capitalize on this issue and sell noise canceling headphones
Of course her song woke up the elemental spirits, she was screaming at like 3 A.M. she probably woke up the whole damn kingdom
I saw this movie with my mother because she loved frozen 1, and she legitimately thought kristoffs song in the woods was a joke that they were going to stop after a couple seconds
They really made fun of Bohemian Rhapsody... just nooooo...
The reason why i hate this movie so much
@@pringels9877 I don’t really hate the movie, it was ok, but frozen 1 was way better
Kristoff: Reindeers are better than people...Sven, don't you think that's true?
Me in the theater the first time I saw this: Oh, a reprise to the song from the first movie. That's cool.
*movie cuts to Sven, who starts "singing" on his own*
Me: Wait, what?
*song keeps going*
Me: Oh my god make it stop...
@@pringels9877 I don't think they were making fun. It was just a pop culture reference.
@@eswan8900 plus Jonathan Groff (voices Kristoff) covered Bohemian Rhapsody so it's actually a pretty funny reference
To me at least
"Aredelle treats their queen like a birthday party clown"
Now I'm dying 😂
When Christof proposed was anyone like: “Oh yeah. Christof wanted to get married” after having completely forgot because he sang a song and then just disappeared until the end of the movie.
Jesus Christof
Facts
It was the most unsatisfying ending for Kristoff. The proposal was so ham fisted I wondered why they even bothered
Did they rip off that "Lost in the Woods" scene from Guardians of the Galaxy? I seem to remember Peter Quill singing an 80s style love song while dancing in a forest.
Nobody:
Cinimasins: *gives a sin for Disney showing a snowflake in a frozen movie*
Kristoff: I know the woods
The next song: lost in the woods
Hmm seems legit
All the other elements actually had things to represent them. Fire: salamander. Water: horse. Earth: giants. The wind? It was literally just wind. Wind blowing a few leaves around so we could actually see something there, but still just wind. Like what the hell? No bird or something?
Nevertheless, they still managed to make and sell toys depicting the wind. Why make an effort? They'll buy it anyway.
Hotel: Trivago
The ACTUAL five elements in real life are:
Fire, Water, Earth, Air and Sky.
So yeah, fuck this movie. Elsa should be the sixth element for all I'm concerned.
Just spitnalling here, but the other elements you can see wind on the other hand you can only see it's effects.
@@ananthibala91 space is not an element, neither humanity or morals or anything untouchable
You missed the part where Elsa sang that "everyone I've ever loved is inside these walls" and didn't follow up with "or at the bottom of the ocean."
The whole joke is that Elsa is in these walls. She loves no one but herself, in fact.
@@WalkingJellyfish Dont think thats it chief. She loves Anna and Olaf at the very least.
Spidercat How can you say that she only loves herself if she sounds like she hates herself in every scene from the movies lol
mikerw
Did she ever love them?
You so mean
9:00 You blew it! Olaf's line after "That's very clever..." was "Although it does make me wonder why they didn't make the whole ship waterproof." I mean, Olaf would be amazing at Cinemasins. Also, this was an obvious joke about why they don't make the planes out of the same stuff they make the black boxes out of.
then everything changed when the Arendellian nation attacked
What about the fire nation what happened to them?
Knockedy r/WOOOOOOOSH
Avatar The Last Airbender
Kate Gacha life and more every O you typed in is one more chromosome
Elsa: The last Snowbender
...but only Elsa, master of the four elements could stop them.
On her journey she discovered something greater, a fifth element, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WATER...
ice
Ding.
But then, when the world needed her most, she vanished.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
how did you comment before the video uploaded..
The tail of the braid is hidden under the rest of her hair. I’ve done that exact hairstyle, I agree though. There really isn’t a way to make it look that seamless
She's a princess, I'm sure her hair dresses could clean it up to look amazing
Also, hair pieces.
Also its Disney so they can do whatever they want
Don't forget, you're questioning Disney/cartoon logic
no matter how little sense it makes, we all have to admit that the little flame spirit salamander thing is cute af and i wouldnt mind adopting it
You'd probably have to find a new home every time you'd need to visit the vet. He'd go on a fire rampage through your place.
“why does a horse represent water” Nokk, the water spirit: am i a joke to you
Or kelpies!
Oof first thing I thought was Poseidon
Samia Bolton Same
Samia Bolton yeah same it does make sense
It’s a sea horse
Sin: All the advertising going to "Into the Unknown" and not the INCREDIBLE "Show Yourself"
Dangansona that’s what I thought. Like in show yourself she learns about herself, gets a new dress and a new fortress just like in let it go.
I think Show Yourself is far too intense for a short ad and would also give away a really high point of the movie too early
“Show Yourself” would’ve given the climax of the plot away and “Into the Unknown” is the better teaser... which is probably why they went with it for advertising
i do agree that Show Yourself is way better than Into the Unknown, but using that in the advertising would’ve been a TERRIBLE idea. Show Yourself is a song near the end of the movie that’s very important to the story and using it in advertising would’ve spoiled the climax of the movie, while Into the Unknown is a catchy song near the start of the movie that doesn’t spoil anything major.
Hidden Gem.
logo: *exists*
Cinemasins: so anyways i started sinning
saxobeats wife there was once a movie that had 6 logos in a short amount of time and he took sins off.
"Why is she embarrassed of Let it Go? It's an empowering song whatever he said"
Me: its now turned to a song about taking a sh*t
Fun fact is that in polish version it's ,,Mam tę moc" which means ,,I've got that power
Have you ever heard your own voice in a recording?
In serbian it is ,,sad je kraj" which means ,it's over now"
@@whiskeyshaw8818 i have and I hate it so ye
Poseidon had dominion over horses, that's prolly why the horse represents water.
Sea horse.
Coranac yeah, but, this isn’t Greek mythology
Huh, good to know. When I saw the movie I only made the link with kelpies
@@hogusbogus7685 but it makes a good logical connection. myths get referenced in stuff that aren't myths all the time
@@hogusbogus7685 do you think that matters to Disney?
How dare you not say “Olaf would be good at CinemaSins” when he said “It makes you wonder why they don’t make the whole ship waterproof”
SuperT man
SuperT they’re sarcastic idiots duh 😂😂😂
I'm surprised you didn't sin Anna's immature treatment of Kristoff. She gets so easily upset, defensive, or accusatory before he's done proposing. It makes me think that the pairing is a mistake.
Thats because it is. If Hans didn't have to be the twist villain then him & Anna would be the perfect couple
She is paranoid about what he thinks of her because of how people have treated her in the past (partially Hans and partially the basically having no human interaction from ages 8ish-18)
That was intentional. The creators wanted to illustrate how Anna was paranoid about Elsa. This is something she eventually resolves at the end. Doesn't really count as a sin.
@@keziahlove6In short its bad writing
@@dustyrose192 It's called character development, but whatever. 🙄
Olaf::At least they have their parents!
*Their parents are dead.*
Me in the theater: **silent wheezing**
Also I almost choked on a peanut M&M
I literally heard a few people laughing quitely at that part
Can we talk about the abrupt change of clothing when they all evacuated with nothing? Because I spent a solid five minutes wondering whether they went back in just for an outfit change.
me too
plus some folks sleep nude XD
Elsa obviously used her ice magic to magic up some clothes, cause that’s how her powers work apparently
In a normal situation you would be running out at most with a blanket not a whole winter set and hat
C X she’s a goddess now remember
Why horses are associated with water: according to Greek mythology, Posiden created horses, so like that’s pretty much it. Boom.
Erin Shetler true, and I’m sure you’ve seen this already, but the norse Nokks as well. That’s what they’re calling the toys too
Prison mike what was the scariest thing about prison?
Thank you I love cinima sins but I was about to go full on caps on this dude also sense he has done BOTH Percy Jackson movies you would think he would know this or at least do more research about this I mean seriously this is a simple fact you can find on Google...omgosh I am becoming cinima sins after watching so many...so I am gonna 1 more cinima sin for this to the last score lol
Nefluf V Or a kelpie.
👏
I wish the end of credits scene was hans with scars all over his face big ass beard and a cloak and hes just sitting there sharpening his sword and just says its time to finish what I started
*_y e s_*
Ohhh I would've loved it if Hans returned. But this time, give him the chance to explain his motives a bit more and a better backstory.
And then, with the help of some magic, seriously tricking Kristoff in dumping Anna, after which Hans shows he's 'a better person now' and tries to marry her.
I mean, something like that, I don't know.
@@Widdekuu91 that be good
That would be dark as hell
Hans is actually in the crowd when anna is pronounced queen.
Olaf: Why didn't they make the whole ship waterproof?
CS: Olaf would be great at Cinemasins
*Ding*
memento mori
8:18
Kristoff: I know the woods
*5 seconds later*
IM LOST IN THE WOODS!
Me when I don't want to admit I'm wrong
Its a metaphor lol
Remember they said "we're not
critics, we're just assholes."
Me when talking to my uncle i say something like I defiently know what im doing then five seconds later mess it up
Sin
I died of laughter when he said "Man, I'd be so great at writing kids movies."
Edit: I was revived by the amount of likes I received.
Hell, I would watch it.
I’m down, let’s make Jeremy a director
LOL
Hey, i’d watch it.
I likely wouldn’t make my child watch it..
@@GamerfunTheFirst I would too
“Well, at least they have their parents!”
*”Their parents are d e a d .”*
"Man I'd be so good at writing kids movies."
Me: You would!
When Elsa said "Ahtohallen is frozen" I am SHOCKED that we didn't get a "roll credits!" I guess she didn't say "Frozen 2" per say but close enough. For this, I am adding one sin to the total Cinemasins channel sin counter.
Michael Schindlbeck It's better than having ground that's sour
*per se
Add another one, no connection to Avatar the Last Airbender and the 4 elements
Woulda been better if she said "Ahtohallen is frozen too" xD
Don’t act like “Lost in the Woods” wasn’t the funniest shit ever. 80’s ballad done exactly like every 80’s ballad music video
Camus I found it lame. Got 30 seconds in on Disney+ before I realized the gist would add nothing I didn’t already know and hit Skip-> 30secs 4 times
I couldn't watch it. Kept laughing and tears were streamin down my eyes.
No, I actually found it to be awful and cringey af, and I grew up in the 80s. The reference was lost on today's kids (my 9 year old daughter even stated that she didn't understand why that song was like that)
No one is acting, because it really wasn't. It was boring and incredibly pointless. The issue was literally never brought up again for the rest of the film. He went from feeling lost and confused and she went from feeling insecure and worried, to them suddenly being engaged. It was somehow even more convenient than the fact that destroying the dam saved Elsa.
Actually I found it really cringey and found that part hard to watch.
I'm surprised they didn't say anything about
"I prefer you in leather anyway" 🤔
* sees your profile picture *
where’s my holy water
@@xSpaceDaily 😇
that was.. in the movie? i missed it entirely
@@cassia2399 Anna says it to Kristoff.
Anna got that leather kink 🥵
"Why does a horse represent water?"
That's no horse, its the Nokk, a mythological creature from Scandinavian myths.
I just looked up Nokk, and you are so right.
“That’s no horse, it’s a space station!”
Sorry, that’s all I could hear in my head
Actually, TEA would be the element that binds all together.
Ask Uncle Iroh if you don't believe me.
Oof, I just got massive feels!
Earth for the cup.Water to make the tea.Fire to heat the tea.Air to cool it down.
@@theknoxcrew1040 I get the feeling that if Iroh was the avatar he would just use all the 4 elements to make the perfect tea
I'm watching avatar right now
IROHS BUFF NOW AND NO ONE METIONS IT
In this avatar game called four elements trainer you collect stones of every element to give to somebody so he can make tea
"Why is Elsa so embarrassed to see the "Let it go" scene?"
I actually can related to that, I sometimes do things like present in piano recitals and even if I didn't do anything wrong, I feel cringy if I see a video of myself in the event
Agreed. I feel like she’s just cringing at hearing her own voice. Pretty normal. 🤷🏽♀️
Yep why do you always cringe at that?
It's like making a picture of yourself and looking at it a week later
Even at the funny link like this
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I always thought it was because it reminded her of the tragic events that happened in the first movie after her powers grew out of control.
Is no one gonna talk about how Elsa’s makeup stayed on the WHOLE GOD DAMN TIME!!!! Even after having a water battle with a horse??
Thank you like what kind of water proof make up is that Disney needs to give us the secrets
I used to have aquatherapy for a pain disorder and I had to search for months, but eventually I was able to put on and retain a full face of makeup. 😜 Channeled my inner Elsa Goddess at a young age I guess. 🤣
Maybe it's permanent or something. On a related note, did anyone else notice Elsa actually slept with her shoes on? 😂
Noone special water
@@SunflowerSpotlight
You need to swim with make-up?
Can't give it a miss for a while?
Women and girls nowadays seem to be addicted to face paint as if it's a vital necessity. No interest in natural beauty at all. I wonder why they cherish artificiality that much.
And Disney is copying that fashion.
Elsa is sleeping with that make-up of hers.
The Frozen girls even walk around in high heels ... high heels in a forest! 😖
I got angry when watching the death scenes, because part of me knew, as impactful as Elsa and Olaf's deaths would be, Disney would be sure to bring them back. Had the 2 of them actually been allowed to perish, I think the ending could have been a lot more powerful, Ana having to step up as Queen for real and lead in spite of losing her entire family.
that would have been epic, honestly. the only reason I can think of why they didn't do that is because of the children
I would watch that movie instead!
I agree totally.
I would watch the hell out of Disney remakes geared towards adults that were seriously dark and let people stay dead.
As a big sister- the girls sharing a room as kids is not a space issue. When my sister and I were little we didn’t use the spare bedroom in our house because being alone in a room at night at such a young age was scary af.
@Jon Goat i- lmao
It is to show how close they were.
Especially a big room. That shit's scary at night
Kinda surprised they didn’t sin one of the biggest flaws of the movie: Kristoff’s plot
I know, he was almost useless in this movie.
Kinda surprised he only commented once or twice about the fact that this movie had no plot.
It was just that forgettable
have y'all listened to the outtake Get This Right where kristoff sings and at the end is proposed *by anna* and then she joins him singing?? (u can also look it up and watch the storyboard) yeah im still pissed off it didn't make into the movie or at least turned into a post credit scene or sumn
It is one of the better songs on the soundtrack. And it actually gives Kristoff and Anna SOME characterization (which they sorely need).
"Arendelle treats their queen like a birthday party clown"
THE WIT THIS IDEA POSSESS HAHAHA
water spirit: water horse
earth spirit: rock trolls
fire spirit: cute lizard
air spirit: *floating leaves*
Ice spirit : Woman
Just a rewrite of the movie that I think would’ve been better:
-The girls should’ve found a book in the castle’s library about the northuldra people and remembered their mother singing about attohollan and the scarf thing her mother wore. This could’ve been the way to find out more about their mother and where she came from. (This way Elsa doesn’t find herself by a mysterious voice that has no explanation)
-Sven and Kristoff should’ve been from the enchanted forest but were trapped outside which is how he ended up with the ice men in the beginning of frozen 2 and eventually the trolls. (This would’ve given kristoff a meaningful subplot and we would’ve learned more about the natives and their way of life.)
-the breaking of the dam should’ve torn through Arendelle to make the story more meaningful by making peace with the northuldra. (This stops the issue of elsa’s impossibility of stopping the tidal wave and shows the consequences and effects of native hostility of a nations past instead of covering it up and coming out on top once again.)
Maybe
Disney needs to hire this man
I like what u said, but the last point is kinda harsh. I wouldn't like to get punished for my ancestor's mistake. I mean, the king's father was evil, but maybe his ancestors were good people.
There is always an error in a systam, but we don't need to erase the whole thing, we just have to find the mistake and fix it.
I really would have preferred this movie more! I left the theaters after frozen two very disappointed
@@joeyjoe694 nobody wants it, but like, (I hope u watch game theory cuzzzz....) minecraft theories, ancient builders, pigmen still have a grudge with how they would kill them for food
Sooooo
For the Northaldran (idk how to spell it) people, you would have wanted them to let it destroy Arendelle to show everLASTING peace w them. But not so much for the people of Arendelle. It's just the right thing to do.
I think it's like saying "oh, we care, but not as much as we care for the descendants who stabbed you in the back"
7:05 Yes "a cute lizard" also known as a SALAMANDER. There is lore of Salamanders being born from fire, but this is only true because the salamanders would lay sleeping on the rocks of dying campfires due to the warmth from the fire and them being cold blooded. As the dwellers came out to rekindle the fire, the salamanders would skitter away from the coals/fire and leave ashes and fire wisps behind them, thus making the people think Salamanders were born from fire.
This is also why in Pokemon, Charmander is a Fire Salamander, a Charred Salamander.
Dubstequtie I always thought Charmander was a dragon
Is there a scale of salamander to dragon?
@@LesbiansMarie He evolves into a Dragon, since Fire Salamander being a lizard, and dragon's being "an over-sized lizard" Pokemon took the opportunity.
Dubstequtie
Finally someone said it, and not only that, A LOT of thing have an explanation:
1.- It is implied many times (even in the books and comics) that Elsa is as warm as a normal human being, but she can bend ice/snow, and since she’s the 5º spirit, she can withstand really cold temperatures.
2.- The Nokk is a Mythical Creature that usually appears as a horse and drowns not-worthy people, that’s why it represents water.
3.- Frozen has always been about Elsa and Anna, and everyone else is just there to help them. Between Frozen and Frozen 2 are MANY adventures and character development. So, Elsa’s motivation was always (since the 1st one) to find herself, because she finds her powers as a curse rather than a blessing, it is always hard for her to control them, she is gradually improving little by little. By the end of the movie she finally know who she is and why is she like that.
4.- Oaken still has his store in the wild, but it’s shown in the Frozen shorts that he usually travels to Arendelle with some stuff to sale.
5.- The elementals are angry towards the things that happened in the past and claim the price of the kingdom itself, but not the people, that’s why in the movie they say that the spirits took out the people and waited for them to be saved and later on destroy the kingdom.
6.- There where around 30 deleted scenes in Frozen 2, and in some of them explains the prophecy of why they called Elsa at that time.
7.- Olaf just said in scenes earlier that “water has memory”, that’s why Elsa said that those where frozen moments of the past.
8.- The one that was calling her is the river itself (Ahtohallan), the river was using Queen Iduna’s voice to call Elsa (Iduna had a strong knowledge and relationship with the spirits), because “water has memory”.
9.- Elsa was being called by the river itself, but Elsa herself is the 5th spirit, the spirits also were guiding her to take her place where she belongs.
10.- Elsa sacrificed herself to save her people from mistakes she didn’t do, she reborns and transforms into an OP transformation spirit, sounds familiar?
11.- Queen Iduna’s secret wasn’t that “she was Northuldra”, in many shorts and scenes is obvious that Agnarr already knew, her secret was the prophecy.
Leo M.R you and me are slowly turning into Th3Birdman 😂
Bruni is god
0:40
"but everything has changed when the fire nation attacked"
ya know, cinema sins is great and all but just imagine “anime sins”
edit: i swear i’ve changed as a person since i made this cringe azz comment
Would watch it in.. 7 maybe 8 years.
I like anime and all but I'd love to watch this guy talking bout shit on anime, my sense of humour is almost inhumane
I love you, if someone doesn't make this a thing
Everything wrong with naruto just mention all of sakura's mistakes long it out and wallah
AniSins already exists
1:16 as someone who has a sister, there's no need to sin this part of the movie. at my family's first house, there were two rooms that i could've had all to myself. but i chose to have a bedroom with my sister for about 7 years. they clearly love each other so much and are best friends because they're sisters, so they want to share a room.
A SIN IS A SIN!!!
AnathemaAddy yeah..... that’s what I always thought when I watched that first video in frozen. They adore each other, and they love spending time together, they *want* to share a bedroom
‘How did Elsa and the murder pony get to arendelle’ is one of the weirdest sentences without context
it's not a pony its a Kelpie
If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.
Sounds like dark souls 3 dlc
My new favorite descriptive name: "murder pony"
*LMAO*
And add to the last part dammit LOL reference to Gary still plays Channel
Get the crusade
0:35 Air, Fire, Water, Earth. Long ago the four nations lived in harmony. Then everything changed when the fire nation attacked
Lol 😂
"Movie makes it seem like the still-young Mattias is still going to be attracted to the now-much-older Halima"
Mattias is certainly not "still young". The curse on the Enchanted Forest didn't freeze time, it just kept anyone from entering or leaving. Mattias still aged at the same rate as anyone else. He just looks good for his age, I guess.
Thank you, I was gonna say this. He certainly looks older than he did during the scenes leading up to the fighting, when King was a child
What bugged me is that if time didn’t stop, they should have given the clothes some wear and tear. His uniform was PERFECT. It had been, what, 20-25 years? Right.
Exactly I guess they didn't see the GREY HAIR on his sideburns
Black don't crack lol
@@SunflowerSpotlight that is a good point. It's the same uniform so does he have anything else to wear🤔
"The most powerful Spirits of all; those of Air, Fire, Water and Earth."
*Electricity cries in the corner.*
* surprised Pikachu face *
Electricity isn't *le* fifth element. It's Aether.
Electricity isn't the fifth element. It's Heart.
And when your powers combine I am Captain Planet!
Shannon Gerry That’s a reference to something I don’t know.
@@brendantodt5043 very possibly.
U forgot that elsa missed her own sisters coronation , and after all elsa did for arendelle she just up and leaves for the hecking forest
Delta Sketchbook also how the forest is within walking distance of arendelle, the water got there instantly
That was not Anna's coronation, it was a statue unveiling ceremony.
NotAQween yeah, where anna also became the QUeEn
@@ranow_racer2512 why would a CoROnatIoN happen during the statue unveiling ceremony????
Don't you think it would be two separate days? :/
Don't you remember how Elsa's coronation took place.
Well its obviously the coronation as well, cuz anna had the crown on, and a dress coming out of the castle coming to unveil the statue. Its not impossible for both to happen you know.
In Greek mythology Poseidon created horses out of seawater and ever since they’ve been used to symbolize water. Some legends say that rogue waves are mischievous water spirits that most often take the form of a horse
But seriously. Biggest mystery of Frozen 2:
ANNAS INFINITY BRAID LIKE WTF DISNEY
Lafayeete Large Baguette I know! Every time I saw it on the screen, I was just encapsulated as to how it works. It’s literally not possible.
I spent like half the movie trying to figure it out
Wait... what?
Actually my sister had the exact same brade done for her birthday so it is an actual hairstyle that can be done
Anastasija Andreeska teach us
Greek mythology says Poseidon created horses. They’re very flowy
William Walker
And Poseidon was the god of the seas
ARMY FOREVER I’m pretty positive that was the point of the comment.
Actually it was because the they were originally gonna have a horse (Nokk). And one of the directors really like surfing (directed surf’s up) so he’s like “hey let’s make a ocean wave horse”
Not just that but theres a water horse called Nokks that drown people in Norse Mythology
It also could be a reference to Kelpie, the Celtic legend of a black stallion who is said to inhabit the bodies of water in Scotland.
It was really weird when Olaf went all philosophical
I feel every sin in this is relatively explainable, but you failed to mention the largest issue. Elsa was supposed to save the forest as the fifth spirit then FROZE IT. As if the not so winter bearing trees wouldn’t hibernate along w the animals eternally, because the forest is now frozen eternally. She literally killed the forest. That was my only issue tbh
Has anyone ever thought about the sentence that they said in the forest “34 years”They’ve been trapped in there. Elsa is 24 and Anna is 21 in this movie so......How old was the king and queen when they had them? Cause they looked pretty young in the flashback.
They probably waited till they were older to have Anna and elsa
hard to tell, everybody looks like a newborn in disney movies
Allie in the Galaxy My guess is they were about Anna and Elsa's age in Frozen 2 when they had them.
I would guess the parents around the age of: mom 10 yrs and dad 12 yrs old back then, so if mom had Elsa at the age of 20, plus 24, it adds up to 34.
probably when they were 22 or 23 or something. That means they died at 37. Geez
If water is an element, and so is the ice , doesn’t that mean there should be a steam element ?
Yes. Yes it does.
Though it would be less fun.
@@rainynight02 More scaldy, though!
I am now thinking about the morbid hilarity that would be a Frozen rewrite where Elsa just scolds the shit out of everyone. But yeah that would be a WAY different movie.
I hate this comment but I love this comment
Well there's fir already... Water and fire together make steam.
16:03 Electricity/plasma should be the fifth spirit, because lightning can: Damage Earth, possibly lift it and shoot straight through it, can cause Fire, can direct water by coming up through the water, and can slice through the wind. Easy.
Maybe the spirit of Ahtohallan has those powers.
thank. you.
Dude, the 5th spirit isn't a 5th element. The 5th spirit is the bridge between humans and spirits. Elsa's ice magic is a gift from the spirits and Ahtohallan, not a secondary water spirit.
Agreed. Electricity is way better that some cold water.
@@roiitzkovich4545 how does ICE bridge air and people...
I love that the Fire Spirit is a Salamander. Which are commonly associated with the element of fire in myths