If I wanted to advertise my product and send a product by my competitor as well for comparisson I would make sure my product looks as glossy and nice as it can be while I would bust up the competitors product and use it some time to make it look used and ugly. This way my product wins for the first impression.
I bought a landzie. What he showed is what I received from a finish standpoint. My door was slightly deformed causing my clips to not connect as well as I feel they should but still adequately secure for now. Overall, I was more than happy with the quality.
@@pestandlawnginja, I'm either confused in your statement or what you said in your video. From what you said in the video Landzie sent you both rollers one of theirs and one of their competitors, peak season. In your reply here you said that both units were sent by the manufacturer. Are you saying peak season sent you out that spreader and it came looking like that and damaged as well? (Edited for spelling & clarity)
Wow. I can't believe Landzie would send you a competitor's model with bad paint and bad packaging. And then suggest that you do a side-by-side comparison. Mindblowing.
I hope you re read your comment. Lemme get this straight. How your head heard it was Landzie sent me a product, but then had the competitor send them some product, trashed it, re boxed it, then sent it to me….. or… maybe they hit the buy it now button and put my address in. I wish you well.
@@pestandlawnginja - I don't re-read comments 10 months old but thanks for getting around to it. I assume there was a misunderstanding on my behalf and, if so, my bad.
Ginja, there’s a better way. Use your seed spreader first to evenly see the yard then roll your peat moss over the top of it. Seed distribution is more even that way. Usually I slice the peat moss bag wide open and use a shovel to break up in the bag and shovel it into the spreader. If you really like that wheel barrow you can mix a little top soil into the peat moss but the key here is to seed first with a seed spreader then roll the moss over the top. This helps keep in moisture, germination, and lastly it hides the seed from birds... good luck
Never used Peak Moss, always used Redwood Compost. I'm pretty sure Redwood Compost is much cheaper. Also, I always liked applying fertilizer first, then seed, them compost. I liked to be able to see the coverage of each item and regulate it. Good Job
Wow need to do this ! However cost is prohibited! Thankyou for this ,did not even know they existed.. Very clear informative show .. Gonna hv to go back to manually slicing nd distribute seeds. Thanx sooo much.
I use 1.25 bails of peat per 1000 sqft. mix 2-5lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft if i'm doing a general overseed. for sparse or barespot i use 7 to 15lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft.
I'm convinced. Using a compost spreader with a seed/peat moss mixture appears to give a nice, even layer. I would try dragging a piece of chain-link fence afterwards to get it to settle down through the grass blades before watering.
Great video; I have a compost spreader and love it. The only issue I have with mixing peat moss and grass seed is you don’t get to roll the seed in. I’m a big proponent of rolling ever since I noticed that spots I stepped on always came in better than spots I didn’t. Rolling peat moss never works out, you want to roll the seed first. I usually water the night before to get the soil soft and moist, use a rake to scuff up the soil that day, spread the seed, spray with tenacity, roll it, and then finialy apply peat moss with a compost spreader. I then spray lightly with a fine mist to lock down peat moss, then water again really well. One last tip, is that you can use a razor to cut the peat moss bales in half. A large bale cut in half loads perfectly in the spreader. No need to shovel it in. It makes it go by much quicker.
Had to be the BEST comparison video on the Landzie and it's competitor I've seen. Price was hard to swallow but after spreading peat moss by hand the last few years, I came to realize it would be well worth it. Also your tips on using it for potting soil and seed mix was the deciding factor! Thanks for your ALWAYS, informative and honest videos! Anthony
Just rent one for $10 a day. That way you dont have to store or maintain it, and you could rent one 30 times, before you would pay for it outright, that is 15-30 years of overseeding.
I'm so glad Landzie reached out to you and gave you a peat moss spreader to try. I have been going back and forth on getting one for a couple months and after watching this video it is on my must have list for next spring as I try to get my new lawn where I want it to be. Thank you Ginja for your videos and the excellent content you continue to consistently produce!
Lawn Ginja Ive got really terrible, horrible soil in my back yard that was sodded 2 years ago with Bermuda tifway 419. My plan is to scarifiy a little then seed some bermuda hybrid seeds. I'm gonna use the lenzie compost spreader and my question(s) is should I mix my manure/peat/seed all together??? Does bermuda seed need sun to germinate??? I was going to top dress this year anyway because of the terrible soil quality/compaction, will this take care of that a little??
depending on the species of bermuda seed germination rates can take a very very long time. you can put it all together in the same hopper but just understand its a long game
for bare spots i used 3/4th bail of peat to 7lbs seed per 1000 sq ft. for general overseed i used 3/4th bail of peat to 3lbs grass seed per 1000 sq ft.
Yeah, honestly, the Peak had a better spread to my eyes. The fit and finish was trash, but in terms of throwing down with minimal gaps and lines it seemed like a no contest to me. Either way I'm in the camp of I can't see myself spending a couple to a few hundred on an item I'll use once to twice a year.
When it worked it worked great. I agree the overall spread was better. the issues I had, and hard to show on camera, is it didn't filter the debris as well. with that said if there's someone who doesn't mind fixing the unit or maintaining it after every use then it has value.
The Home Depot near me rents peat moss spreaders that look very similar for about $9 for a 4-hour rental. This looks like a huge time-saver, I'm definitely trying it out on this spring! Just gotta keep the birds away this time!
@@WIG23 The way I've done it is get some reflective bird tape (big box store had a roll for like $5), and tie some strips onto some stakes or something similar (I had a bunch of plant support stakes the previous owner left). I have the strips long enough so that they almost touch the ground. They flap in the wind and the reflection scares the birds away. Worked pretty well in my experience. Didn't necessarily completely stop them but did a good enough job that they don't decimate the seed. Once I do the first mow I store them in the shed for the next time around, because there's always some spots I gotta patch.
Great video but can clear up... You put the seed and Peat Moss in together but you said "the soil and seed". Or did you put all 3(PMoss,Soil and Seed in there?) Also what was the best soil? Potting Mix?
this video had peat moss and seed mixed together only. the best soil is relative to what you have or competing with in your yard. for leveling I prefer sand for seeding i prefer peat or potting mix. for raising levels in the lawn I use straight top soil
@@pestandlawnginja I destroyed my lawn last year putting out Scotts 1234. I have tons of bare and brown spots. I remember putting fert out in the heat of summer(before i watched tons of youtube videos). I already put out 2 treatments of Fert and then Dimension 2EW. Now I'd like to dethatch this week. Do you recommend I wait until Fall to overseed? Cool Season grass. Thx. DDH
Way to lay it on the concrete.😂Could not have had a better visual of how that stuff goes down. Wow!! Thank you so much. Most helpful video I’ve seen in weeks.
@@hackettmark That's exactly what I was thinking. How much seed needed per sq ft is on the bag but how much peat moss to mix per pound of seed is a mystery.....at least to me it is. Did you ever figure it out ? My concern is that I end up putting too much peat moss down in order to get enough seed......and as Ginga said, scabs.
You discussed that the spreader would not allow the larger pieces to go through the screen and I understand why. What did you do with the waste pieces?
I never even considered mixing the peat moss and seed together but I really like that idea. I spread peat moss by hand over 4K square feet and it took forever! I definitely might consider this now but I’m still hesitant due to the price.
I hear you. I hardly do peat moss anymore, because it’s too time consuming. Last time I planted seed, I got too many bare spots, possibly from birds, so I’m gonna have to use peat moss going forward. I’m definitely buying one of these in the spring.
@@pestandlawnginja Would love to see a follow up video on this in a few weeks to see how the seed/peat moss mix and spread worked. If that process works well, then that's a huge time saver!
So I am sold. But just the peat and seed? I thought I would follow with topsoil on top using the landzie as well. Should I top the peet/seed slurry with topsoil? I live in MA.
Thanks for the driveway comparison. I’d go with the Peak. A zip tie would have work to hold the door closed and you definitely got a demo unit and not a hand picked model that Landzie sent you.
First I used my Sunjoe to de-thatch and scarify my lawn. I used my Landzie to put down compost, then seeded with a broadcast spreader then used the Landzie to apply peat moss. Watered for a couple of weeks and my lawn looks greener and new grass is filling in a few bad spots. Some one asked how to empty the big stuff out, I just lifted the Landzie up over my trash can and opened the door, most if it fell right out, used my had to scoop out the rest. I like your idea of mixing the seed with the peat moss, I’ll try that next spring.
Never thought to mix the seed in with the peat moss, Thanks for the idea! I just planted and top dressed with peat moss but it was not easy to spread evenly. Great video, I have been looking at compost spreaders all week to prepare for next year
@@johngiannone7694 I used 1 bail peat moss to 2 to 5lbs of grass seed for a general overseed per 1000 sqft. on barespot i'll mix the seed 7 to 10lbs per 1000 sqft.
Slit slice seeding is what I suppose you are talking about. I have a video on that. It's a very slow process and involves a lot of machine prep. The machines weigh 300 lbs and people commonly rent them. Takes time to go get them and return them. Ultimately what you're saving is time. There's hassel either way. I prefer the compost spreader because its fast. Itll yield 90% that the slit slice seeder does
i like using a stinger. its pulls cores and drops seed in the same pass. I do like this compost spreader for laying peat, as it saves considerable time vs a bucket full of peat n throwing it out.....all day work. For the average person this compost spreader works great to spread the seed peat mix or soil mix. As always your vids are fantastic!! Love how you have helped countless people on their yards!!
@@derekg3035 results have been great. there are some heavy winter shaded areas that haven't germinated and a chunch where the kids have walked on that didn't. Other than that it over wintered fantastically.
Thank you for the tip, as I am a new homeowner and I have to do this for my yard. I still need to get it level out. However, for now I will use this compost spreader with grass seeds, fertilizer mixed in the compost. This will save me a lot of time out in the NC heat. Did not have to do this in NY, so a girl got to do what she has to do to have a nice yard. Thank you so much.
Ginga most of us out here don't have the manufacturers send us gifts like you we're not famous but when you're at home Depot I rented mine this season for $11 a day why buy one they're bulky they're hard to store just rent for the day it's cheaper just a tip
I totally agree with you. Plus these spreaders cost a pretty penny. I'm in the process of a front lawn renovation and I think I'm going to rent one too.
@@kbwright13 hey got an idea I use them at work all the time I drive a truck get a small bungee the rubber ones with the metal hooks on the end those work wonders
Of course I had to make my own . Using a 55 gallon food grade plastic barrel. Larger capacity. PVC pipe for handle. Have to perfect the latch door but I like my project.
Great video I am 58 years old my father who was a builder in Las Vegas Nevada and we planted our lawns in Las Vegas using this method I am living in Texas and looking to buy a compost spreader and can’t even find one here in Texas so I’m going to order one online
Hi, I was looking at the diamond-shaped mesh for both products. Both have the same size 1/2 by 3/4. Maybe the leftover material for the Peak is due to the bigger basket. Thanks for posting.
After this year doing lawn for first time I realize this is a must for me. I noticed anywhere I had peat moss flourished much nicer than anywhere that did not. Plus, trying to throw by hand takes way too long and doesn't spread evenly. After watching this video I decided it is a must have for me! Want to sponsor me so I can afford it? LOL
@@pestandlawnginja oh I absolutely won't! By hand i see certain areas clump up and might smother new seed. Also, what do you recommend for a winterizer as after I throw down CX one more time I won't have any left? Thanks!
@@theturfnerd If you use the right type of nitrogen like amonium sulfate it will overwinter. urea overwintering is highly debateable. my opinion is it doesn't overwinter well.
@@pestandlawnginja shouldnt you seed is after putting down the soil? wont the seed be on top of other grass and not down to the soil contact if you seed spread first?
Informative post. Aerating front/back yards tomorrow and was pondering best way to evenly return plug contents to the soil before reseeding/overseeding. Given your spreader suggestion, will pulverize the plugs with a shovel/rake in a wheelbarrow, in addition to mixing lawn soil and seed. Thank you very much.
I use 1.25 bails of peat per 1000 sqft. mix 2-5lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft if i'm doing a general overseed. for sparse or barespot i use 7 to 15lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft.
Thanks for the great comparison. I purchased a 36 inch to do my very large back yard. My yard has a very steep hill 25-35 degrees in some areas and this really worked great but was definitely a lot of work. My backyard is also about 16,000Sq Feet. It does not work very well on hills unless you go up the hill so that the roller is as level as possible but otherwise it performed well and saved a lot of raking.
it was an over winter project. turned out great. the new growth is really starting to show. I'll show on video soon. I have one area by my back door that didn't take due to heavy traffic from the kids and dog
Great video. A couple questions 1.) how many cubic ft of soil per 1k sqft? 2. Soil to seed ratio? 3. If the soil is at all damp will this method work? (Clumping)? Keep up the great videos! Appreciate it
Lol. I'm only halfway through the video... but it's pretty obvious your landzie buddies send you a used spreader of the competition's model and a brand new of their own. I bet you use the landzie a few times and the paint started looking worse too. Otherwise good video so far.
hey ginga, i got a bunch stuck or binding sprinkler heads, any quick fix for that or a link? i heard to pull the shaft up and spray w vaseline or lithium grease? they work fine once ii pull them up, but the next day they dont go up again, thanks!!! bud
I’ve went to buy one of these last year expecting it to be 100-150 bucks... refuse to pay 300... idk where the justification for that price comes from... seems like a they have a 1100% markup
“ might” is the key word. Once I get the lawn going I’m not going to need a spreader again. Same thing for having a trailer or a pickup truck. Too bad rental places near me don’t offer peat spreaders. 😢
Agreed Steve, I asked the best rental company in my area and they never heard of it before! Hoping these will become more common and I’ll rent these whenever I want to overseed.
Good information guys. I’m starting my second business, lawn care in spring. Learning all I can from all you. Even the comments. Thank you. New subscriber here. 👍💪🏼
Hey Ninja, I was in the same predicament, did not want to spend too much money on a peat moth spreader so I bought the cheaper one for $160 plus free shipping. I also noticed the cheap lock that came with it so I ordered a luggage latch from Amazon for $4 and just welded it on and it works fine. Since you only use it a few times a year if that I rather save $200 and get something that is a little rough around the edges and that works. Love your videos, keep up the great job.
Dude, so Landzie sends the competitors product that they obviously pushed off the back of a truck a few dozen times to wreck it. Talking about the packaging and the paint job like it's a new one. The sell out curve for the ginja has been steep.
I acquired my Peak compost spreader from an Ace Hardware company going out of business for about $40 years upon years ago. Just used it yesterday as a matter of fact to spread my compost redressing and reseeding my front lawn. I didn't mix the seed into the compost but I can see how that would have saved so much time. What I don't like about spreaders is if the material is wet the material will start to clog the holes causing uneven coverage no matter if it be the Landzie or the Peak. I like the larger door swing opening of the Landzie vs the limited opening of the sliding door of the Peak. And yes mostly moist material will inhibit the sliding doors ease. Although my Peak spreader might be decades old and left outside it has weathered and dealt with oxidation extremely well. My Peak compost spreader is a vital part of my home owner yard maintenance equipment. Which means if you have a yard you gotta have one as well as a roller which I use to press the seeds against the soil to help with germination and other roller duties.
Awesome feedback. Thanks for the detailed comment and experience you've had. I do agree that moist / damp materials will cause some disfunction. thanks again.
who cares about the paint job, it's going to get ding up on first use or storage. they both should offer a water bladder so the roller can also be used a lawn roller.
@@pestandlawnginja Yo Im a painter and if the product isnt painted professionally it tells me the care and assembly of the product was shotty im with you on the paint.
I use 1.25 bails of peat per 1000 sqft. mix 2-5lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft if i'm doing a general overseed. for sparse or barespot i use 7 to 15lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft.
Horse people have this thing called a 'newer spreader' that has a metal grinder that spins when engaged and will grind up any horse turds, loose bedding etc into a fine powder. I want to get one to easily top dress my side yard and pasture! That way I can spread seed and easily cover it up with a thin layer of soil and manure afterwards.
I think the test on cement where the gap between the ground and spreader expanded metal is small amplified the lines. On grass it would be less an issue . You didn't show how you emptied the big chunks? The crap compost you can get these days has so much coarse uncompleted crap it makes you worry that the pile didnt get hot enough to kill weed seeds. It seems mixing the seeds in with compost has many problems. Your mixing in such a full wheel barrow surely didnt get a good mix. The seeds can be on top or middle of the compost layer. Peat seems to flow so much with even a slight slope during watering your seeds ate not going to cover very evenly. The seeds on top will dry out so quickly. Best to use hand spreader for the seed which is easy. Then cover with the compost spreader. Your lawn has so many bare spots? You mow your putting green grass so low and not level? My lawns have never needed seeding except in trouble spots. Tell us how planting all this competing grass helps the old grass? I think you need to do a screening test on all the big box products and reveal how poor they are. My home compost never has those fresh looking small wood chips. I think these compost places are mixing in these wood chips in near the end of composting to stretch their products.
Hey elkski! Really appreciate the comment. I trashed my back yard from my spring leveling project. I had soo many contractors coming this summer so there wasn't any incentive to fix any of it until after the boarder edgers, trees, landscapers and sprinkler repairs were made. As for the large area in the back that is sparse and bald...... I have mostly shade. The mazama grass seed I'm using is pushing really well. Nothing else will grow there due to the amount of shade. Has nothing to do with mowing low. my front yard is thicker than most peoples and I mow it at .6". As for the compost spreader. Yes I over applied the peat moss in the barrell. shows better for the camera. I spent more time than showed on camera mixing the grass seed in. it mixed really well. shockingly the peat doesn't clump as much as you'd think once you mix it. Once the peat is wet it sticks to the grass seed. People have been doing this method for years because it works. There is a trade off though. Peat inherintly can be a tad acidic. so areas that have lower ph will commonly have to use lime when they do an application of peat and seed. There's also no compost wood chips in peat moss which is a huge benefit. If you're using cheap top soil like I demonstrated, there will be wood chips in most bags. I hate to say it but the miracle grow product in the blue bag was the best. spread soo nicely. If i were to do a 50 50 blend I would use that and the peat moss.
Yes i remember you have lots of shade in the backyard near the patio and where the tramp was plus its wet. And you did the edging. Is it to late to plant grass seed now in SL County?
Ginja, Have you done any updates to these spreaders? I really like your idea of mixing the peat moss and grass seed together. That's the first time I've seen that done. Thanks, John
@@pestandlawnginja I had a couple spots in my lawn that I sprayed with tenacity to kill bent grass and I over seeded them this fall. They were small so I just hand sprinkled some Pete Moss over them and all of it came up perfectly even. Peat really helps a lot
id say the peak won. less gaps and i would want the chucks in my yard. that's extra organic material that would break down over time. i dont like the clamps on either, i use big leather gloves and those latches looked troublesome. Are you not going to mention the size difference. less filling up with the bigger one. you kept hammering the finish, but how many people care they have a perfect finish, it sounded like you just needed something to be better since they gave you stuff. now, do your civic duty and order your own Peak to see if when you buy it, it has a better finish to make sure nothing was rigged.
The argument is the sticks in the lawn become a pain in the butt. they always float to the top, causes problems with the mowers as well and getting one in the foot is always a pain.
absolutely. They are two completely different tools. You'd think the drop spreader would help smooth things out and it does to an extent. but it really doesn't do well with sand. does fairly well with top soil but it doesn't drop as much as you would suppose.
I have a question. After putting down the seed and peat moss, do you recommend put straw down to prevent wash out if you're working with a sloped lawn?
I reviewed this product this year to, I really like the idea of rolling it across the driveway, really shows what works and what doesn't. I saw a review of it where they used a sandy soil and this was the wrong material for it IMO. Nice video.
Even though the seed is mixed with the peat, doesn't some of the seed still end up sitting on top of the peat? Seems like it would. Also seems like, once watered some of the peat would settle while some of the seed would sit only partially covered? Does that matter?
I've tested these concerns because I had them too. The only real issue was bald spots getting washed out from too much water and the peat being too light
I think I learned something new! Im going to try this. As a bonus, if that flaky green paint actually lands on your lawn, it will make it look greener! Ha!
That looks like the way to go for overseeding. I just did my overseeding and I put all the peat moss down by hand. This method looks way, way better. Really, if you are going to be overseeding twice a year, every year, this seems like a worthwhile investment.
Bought it on these video recommendation, used it as outlined, and it wasn't worth it! Got the same or better results by scratching a cross hatch with a rake, using a broadcast spreader, mist watering until damp, then rolling the area. The seed flowed into the cross hatch valleys during watering and rolling mashed the peaks down, capturing the seed in the folds.
How are the results? I'm going to use broadcast spreader first for seeds. I usually prepare earlier, start to sprout straw earlier to rid it of weeds.I'm a few weeks behind the weather in N. California. I'm trying the peat moss top dressing first time.
Results so far have been great. The areas of my back yard that get partial to full sun did great. germinated within 3 weeks. it's very cold here in utah. The other areas will fill in as the ground temps rise next spring. A week after I put the seed down the temps plumited to 17 degrees.
Correct me if I’m wrong, based on what I saw, you were using soil leveler after seeding. When it’s designed to level soil before seeding. So you promote peat moss / compost spreader with is designed to be use after seeding. Anyway thank you for spreader comparison that really useful there for I’ll like the video.
this is a compost spreader. not made for leveling. I have done a few leveling videos and leveled the dirt first, then compost spreader and seed afterward.
Excellent demonstration. With a machine like this would would you typically charge for a over seeding a standard size yard? Like the one you did on your own home? Tyvm
Yea I do the same work here in Calgary Alberta, I feel we have simillar weather patterns, so I’m close in price then cuz I’m looking around the 225-275 range for a yard your size, love that landzie, I need to order one of them
I have a few things. I hate that I just found you a couple days ago, REALLY good channel Ginga! Couple comments, and then a serious question I've had about spreading the peat moss. First, the photobomb at the beginning was pretty funny from the neighbor kids. Glad you didn't edit that out. The boys playing with the spreader and the dog was pretty funny too. My question about spreading the peat moss: Are you able to spread it with a broadcast spreader? Most of us already have these, and was just wondering if anyone has tried this and what kind of results have they had.
The spreaders are a game changer. I used it for peat moss and while I won't bother buying one to have to store it, I was able to rent an abused one from HD. Even with the latch being a PITA it saved me so much time. I will never not use one, twice a year... lol It definitely made for a more efficient application.
Thanks for the video I’m trying to help my mother in law with her grass and bring it back to life. Is this something you do daily in the morning and how many times do I water? Also do I water right after? I’m clueless and have no ideas
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No biased opinion during this lol really dogging that competitor composter. But great video to explain all steps!
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I had to watch this again because I am so excited to use it this fall! Ha!
What mix ratio did you use for the seed to Peat moss????
If I wanted to advertise my product and send a product by my competitor as well for comparisson I would make sure my product looks as glossy and nice as it can be while I would bust up the competitors product and use it some time to make it look used and ugly. This way my product wins for the first impression.
I was literally just typing this, but in question form. 😂
I bought a landzie. What he showed is what I received from a finish standpoint. My door was slightly deformed causing my clips to not connect as well as I feel they should but still adequately secure for now. Overall, I was more than happy with the quality.
Both spreaders were sent directly to me from the manufacturer to avoid this issue. Valid question though. love it.
@@pestandlawnginja, I'm either confused in your statement or what you said in your video. From what you said in the video Landzie sent you both rollers one of theirs and one of their competitors, peak season. In your reply here you said that both units were sent by the manufacturer. Are you saying peak season sent you out that spreader and it came looking like that and damaged as well?
(Edited for spelling & clarity)
You were sent sales demos used for regional sales guys to demo to stores and golf courses. You got them for free, don’t except perfect.
Wow. I can't believe Landzie would send you a competitor's model with bad paint and bad packaging. And then suggest that you do a side-by-side comparison. Mindblowing.
I hope you re read your comment. Lemme get this straight. How your head heard it was Landzie sent me a product, but then had the competitor send them some product, trashed it, re boxed it, then sent it to me…..
or… maybe they hit the buy it now button and put my address in.
I wish you well.
@@pestandlawnginja - I don't re-read comments 10 months old but thanks for getting around to it. I assume there was a misunderstanding on my behalf and, if so, my bad.
Mixing the peat and the seeds, using the compost spreader. So many time savers here. Excellent content.
Thank you! Glad you're finding value
Ginja, there’s a better way. Use your seed spreader first to evenly see the yard then roll your peat moss over the top of it. Seed distribution is more even that way. Usually I slice the peat moss bag wide open and use a shovel to break up in the bag and shovel it into the spreader. If you really like that wheel barrow you can mix a little top soil into the peat moss but the key here is to seed first with a seed spreader then roll the moss over the top. This helps keep in moisture, germination, and lastly it hides the seed from birds... good luck
Thanks Tim.
So do you recommend using the Landzie compost spreader ?
@@pauld3327 yes I’ve used the landzie and it works well. Pretty decent value for the money.
@@timshapleyadventures Thank you 👍
Pre germinating your seed will save you a lot of time. Better results in the end
Never used Peak Moss, always used Redwood Compost. I'm pretty sure Redwood Compost is much cheaper. Also, I always liked applying fertilizer first, then seed, them compost. I liked to be able to see the coverage of each item and regulate it. Good Job
great to hear. great feedback! keep slayin that lawn!
Wow need to do this !
However cost is prohibited!
Thankyou for this ,did not even know they existed..
Very clear informative show ..
Gonna hv to go back to manually slicing nd distribute seeds.
Thanx sooo much.
You’re welcome James!!!!
well done bro, showed the composter perfectly.
Thanks brother! It was a fun project.
Ayy wasupp Alan
How do you determine the ratio of seed to soil to peat moss when pre mixing it like you did in the video?
I use 1.25 bails of peat per 1000 sqft. mix 2-5lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft if i'm doing a general overseed. for sparse or barespot i use 7 to 15lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft.
I'm convinced. Using a compost spreader with a seed/peat moss mixture appears to give a nice, even layer. I would try dragging a piece of chain-link fence afterwards to get it to settle down through the grass blades before watering.
Great tip!
Great video; I have a compost spreader and love it. The only issue I have with mixing peat moss and grass seed is you don’t get to roll the seed in. I’m a big proponent of rolling ever since I noticed that spots I stepped on always came in better than spots I didn’t. Rolling peat moss never works out, you want to roll the seed first.
I usually water the night before to get the soil soft and moist, use a rake to scuff up the soil that day, spread the seed, spray with tenacity, roll it, and then finialy apply peat moss with a compost spreader. I then spray lightly with a fine mist to lock down peat moss, then water again really well.
One last tip, is that you can use a razor to cut the peat moss bales in half. A large bale cut in half loads perfectly in the spreader. No need to shovel it in. It makes it go by much quicker.
great feedback! Rolling the seed in is a nice touch. using a spreader first, rolling it, then using the compost spreader will help a ton.
I use the old fashion roller filled with water...talk about making seed to soil contact. The roller with the water is probably 300lbs.
Wouldn't mixing with Tenacity hinder growth?
Is this done in the spring or fall?
This video made me order a landzie this morning. That looks so much easier then spreading and having to rake.
Awesome! It is such a time saver. You'll love it.
Had to be the BEST comparison video on the Landzie and it's competitor I've seen. Price was hard to swallow but after spreading peat moss by hand the last few years, I came to realize it would be well worth it. Also your tips on using it for potting soil and seed mix was the deciding factor! Thanks for your ALWAYS, informative and honest videos! Anthony
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just rent one for $10 a day. That way you dont have to store or maintain it, and you could rent one 30 times, before you would pay for it outright, that is 15-30 years of overseeding.
@@klubstompersWhere can you rent one?
@@dross10001 That depends where you live. I can rent them at Bunce Rental.
Wow I am new in your channel..Wow thank you for sharing I finally know how seed my lawn..
Welcome! Glad it was helpful!
I'm so glad Landzie reached out to you and gave you a peat moss spreader to try. I have been going back and forth on getting one for a couple months and after watching this video it is on my must have list for next spring as I try to get my new lawn where I want it to be. Thank you Ginja for your videos and the excellent content you continue to consistently produce!
Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it.
Landsie is not worth it it’s garbage
Lawn Ginja Ive got really terrible, horrible soil in my back yard that was sodded 2 years ago with Bermuda tifway 419. My plan is to scarifiy a little then seed some bermuda hybrid seeds. I'm gonna use the lenzie compost spreader and my question(s) is should I mix my manure/peat/seed all together??? Does bermuda seed need sun to germinate??? I was going to top dress this year anyway because of the terrible soil quality/compaction, will this take care of that a little??
depending on the species of bermuda seed germination rates can take a very very long time. you can put it all together in the same hopper but just understand its a long game
Those girls in the background. Haha
Right!? hahaha
Good choice leaving that in.
Naruto run was golden 😂
Thats how stars are born. Lol
“We are women we are free!” 😂😂😂😂
Great video. How many lb of seed per big bag of peat moss?? I have 4000 sf. Thanks
for bare spots i used 3/4th bail of peat to 7lbs seed per 1000 sq ft. for general overseed i used 3/4th bail of peat to 3lbs grass seed per 1000 sq ft.
Yeah, honestly, the Peak had a better spread to my eyes. The fit and finish was trash, but in terms of throwing down with minimal gaps and lines it seemed like a no contest to me. Either way I'm in the camp of I can't see myself spending a couple to a few hundred on an item I'll use once to twice a year.
When it worked it worked great. I agree the overall spread was better. the issues I had, and hard to show on camera, is it didn't filter the debris as well. with that said if there's someone who doesn't mind fixing the unit or maintaining it after every use then it has value.
That’s what I’m saying. . Peak looked better. Video was so confusing
The Peak performed much better.
Will have to wait a little on this purchase. Looks promising. Checked link and their website. Currently on backorder.
they go fast!
The Home Depot near me rents peat moss spreaders that look very similar for about $9 for a 4-hour rental. This looks like a huge time-saver, I'm definitely trying it out on this spring! Just gotta keep the birds away this time!
You'll love it!
Thanks for that information.. I don't feel like buying one yet.😊
Speaking of which, how DO you keep birds away from the seed?
@@WIG23 The way I've done it is get some reflective bird tape (big box store had a roll for like $5), and tie some strips onto some stakes or something similar (I had a bunch of plant support stakes the previous owner left). I have the strips long enough so that they almost touch the ground. They flap in the wind and the reflection scares the birds away. Worked pretty well in my experience. Didn't necessarily completely stop them but did a good enough job that they don't decimate the seed. Once I do the first mow I store them in the shed for the next time around, because there's always some spots I gotta patch.
@@benharrison5816 thanks for the tip!
Great video but can clear up... You put the seed and Peat Moss in together but you said "the soil and seed". Or did you put all 3(PMoss,Soil and Seed in there?) Also what was the best soil? Potting Mix?
this video had peat moss and seed mixed together only. the best soil is relative to what you have or competing with in your yard. for leveling I prefer sand for seeding i prefer peat or potting mix. for raising levels in the lawn I use straight top soil
@@pestandlawnginja I destroyed my lawn last year putting out Scotts 1234. I have tons of bare and brown spots. I remember putting fert out in the heat of summer(before i watched tons of youtube videos). I already put out 2 treatments of Fert and then Dimension 2EW. Now I'd like to dethatch this week. Do you recommend I wait until Fall to overseed? Cool Season grass. Thx. DDH
Way to lay it on the concrete.😂Could not have had a better visual of how that stuff goes down. Wow!! Thank you so much. Most helpful video I’ve seen in weeks.
Glad it helped!
Work smarter not harder. Having the right tool for the job usually makes a world of difference. Now I want/need one of those.
So nice to have
I mix seed and soil in a wheelbarrow for all my patch jobs then add peat after. Killer results.
Right on! Great way of doing it
@@pestandlawnginja Aa
@@lenginsberg2519 sweet
What is the mix ratio between soil/Pete and grass seed that you mix in the wheel barrel?
@@hackettmark That's exactly what I was thinking. How much seed needed per sq ft is on the bag but how much peat moss to mix per pound of seed is a mystery.....at least to me it is. Did you ever figure it out ? My concern is that I end up putting too much peat moss down in order to get enough seed......and as Ginga said, scabs.
You discussed that the spreader would not allow the larger pieces to go through the screen and I understand why. What did you do with the waste pieces?
Put them in my flower beds
This guy will find any reason to promote the landzie above the peak season.
bahahaha, buy them both and then talk to me
@@pestandlawnginja maybe I just may
I never even considered mixing the peat moss and seed together but I really like that idea. I spread peat moss by hand over 4K square feet and it took forever! I definitely might consider this now but I’m still hesitant due to the price.
I hear you. I hardly do peat moss anymore, because it’s too time consuming. Last time I planted seed, I got too many bare spots, possibly from birds, so I’m gonna have to use peat moss going forward. I’m definitely buying one of these in the spring.
You'll be hesitant until you try it. go rent one! great way to try it out.
@@pestandlawnginja Would love to see a follow up video on this in a few weeks to see how the seed/peat moss mix and spread worked. If that process works well, then that's a huge time saver!
@@mkmkcorrigan That is the plan!
So I am sold. But just the peat and seed? I thought I would follow with topsoil on top using the landzie as well. Should I top the peet/seed slurry with topsoil? I live in MA.
Should I? or is Peat sufficient?
peat moss is sufficient. but there is no harm in doing both is you do not cover the seed to deep.
Thanks for the driveway comparison. I’d go with the Peak.
A zip tie would have work to hold the door closed and you definitely got a demo unit and not a hand picked model that Landzie sent you.
Cool man. you should do it.
First I used my Sunjoe to de-thatch and scarify my lawn. I used my Landzie to put down compost, then seeded with a broadcast spreader then used the Landzie to apply peat moss. Watered for a couple of weeks and my lawn looks greener and new grass is filling in a few bad spots. Some one asked how to empty the big stuff out, I just lifted the Landzie up over my trash can and opened the door, most if it fell right out, used my had to scoop out the rest. I like your idea of mixing the seed with the peat moss, I’ll try that next spring.
worked incredibly well! these units are very easy to use.
Never thought to mix the seed in with the peat moss, Thanks for the idea! I just planted and top dressed with peat moss but it was not easy to spread evenly. Great video, I have been looking at compost spreaders all week to prepare for next year
Such a timesaver!
@@pestandlawnginja Looks like you used 2 bales of peat moss to what size bag of seed? Terrific video!
@@johngiannone7694 I used 1 bail peat moss to 2 to 5lbs of grass seed for a general overseed per 1000 sqft. on barespot i'll mix the seed 7 to 10lbs per 1000 sqft.
How is this method compared to power seeding?
Which method will produce better results?
Slit slice seeding is what I suppose you are talking about. I have a video on that. It's a very slow process and involves a lot of machine prep. The machines weigh 300 lbs and people commonly rent them. Takes time to go get them and return them.
Ultimately what you're saving is time. There's hassel either way. I prefer the compost spreader because its fast. Itll yield 90% that the slit slice seeder does
The most important thing I learned from this video is that the producers of (various) soils are ripping us off by leaving course materials in it
Good call
i like using a stinger. its pulls cores and drops seed in the same pass.
I do like this compost spreader for laying peat, as it saves considerable time vs a bucket full of peat n throwing it out.....all day work. For the average person this compost spreader works great to spread the seed peat mix or soil mix.
As always your vids are fantastic!! Love how you have helped countless people on their yards!!
great feedback! Thanks for commenting. I'm impressed with how it all went!
I want to see how the seeded area where you mixed seed/peat turned out
me too. still in the middle of germination. it got really cold here and that delays the results.
@@pestandlawnginja i know I'm up in logan....I'm waiting till spring to overseed
@@reflectionsdetail 👊😁
@@pestandlawnginja how are the results looking? Also interested to see how the spreader did with the seed combo inside rather than just peat.
@@derekg3035 results have been great. there are some heavy winter shaded areas that haven't germinated and a chunch where the kids have walked on that didn't. Other than that it over wintered fantastically.
Thank you for the tip, as I am a new homeowner and I have to do this for my yard. I still need to get it level out. However, for now I will use this compost spreader with grass seeds, fertilizer mixed in the compost. This will save me a lot of time out in the NC heat. Did not have to do this in NY, so a girl got to do what she has to do to have a nice yard. Thank you so much.
You're welcome Sherri!
Ginga most of us out here don't have the manufacturers send us gifts like you we're not famous but when you're at home Depot I rented mine this season for $11 a day why buy one they're bulky they're hard to store just rent for the day it's cheaper just a tip
Agreed, but the 1 I got from HD was really beat up and wouldn’t stay closed. With that said, I would still go with the rental route.
The latch on mine died a long time ago, I just use zip ties to keep it closed. A little annoying, but works well for the few times I use mine.
I totally agree with you. Plus these spreaders cost a pretty penny. I'm in the process of a front lawn renovation and I think I'm going to rent one too.
@@kbwright13 hey got an idea I use them at work all the time I drive a truck get a small bungee the rubber ones with the metal hooks on the end those work wonders
@@scgear3847 bungie with metal hooks zip tie would be a pain you'd be cutting and replacing every two passes
Of course I had to make my own . Using a 55 gallon food grade plastic barrel. Larger capacity. PVC pipe for handle. Have to perfect the latch door but I like my project.
rad! how'd it work out?
Great idea using the driveway for testing!
Glad you liked it!
Great video I am 58 years old my father who was a builder in Las Vegas Nevada and we planted our lawns in Las Vegas using this method I am living in Texas and looking to buy a compost spreader and can’t even find one here in Texas so I’m going to order one online
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. its a great process. that's too bad you can't find one even to rent in texas.
@@pestandlawnginja not here in Lubbock
looking good bro! almost to that milestone and doin the thang!
Huge compliment coming from you brother! Thanks for dropping a comment! Hope to see you sooner than later
Hi,
I was looking at the diamond-shaped mesh for both products.
Both have the same size 1/2 by 3/4. Maybe the leftover material for the Peak is due to the bigger basket.
Thanks for posting.
Could be
I'd buy a landzie but it's to much money when I'm only working on my yard in a year!!! They are nice an handy to have tho!! Thanks for sharing
Totally see your point. look into a rental.
That's a good point I'm trying to save for one next year also thanks I'm gonna do that!!!
After this year doing lawn for first time I realize this is a must for me. I noticed anywhere I had peat moss flourished much nicer than anywhere that did not. Plus, trying to throw by hand takes way too long and doesn't spread evenly. After watching this video I decided it is a must have for me!
Want to sponsor me so I can afford it? LOL
Its a fantastic device! They work surprisingly well. I won't use peat moss without one. Go slay that lawn Jason!
@@pestandlawnginja oh I absolutely won't! By hand i see certain areas clump up and might smother new seed. Also, what do you recommend for a winterizer as after I throw down CX one more time I won't have any left? Thanks!
@@theturfnerd lower nitrogen higher potassium
@@pestandlawnginjathanks! That's interesting as some said higher nitrogen as it will give a good push when spring comes.
@@theturfnerd If you use the right type of nitrogen like amonium sulfate it will overwinter. urea overwintering is highly debateable. my opinion is it doesn't overwinter well.
I've been using one of these for years. It's easier and more reliable to put your seed down with a push spreader first, then just cover it.
fair argument
shouldnt you seed is after putting down the soil? wont the seed be on top of other grass and not down to the soil contact if you seed spread first?
@@pestandlawnginja shouldnt you seed is after putting down the soil? wont the seed be on top of other grass and not down to the soil contact if you seed spread first?
Informative post. Aerating front/back yards tomorrow and was pondering best way to evenly return plug contents to the soil before reseeding/overseeding. Given your spreader suggestion, will pulverize the plugs with a shovel/rake in a wheelbarrow, in addition to mixing lawn soil and seed. Thank you very much.
Glad it was helpful!
Question: What is the ratio of lbs of seed you used to the peat moss? Great video and thank you! 👍
I use 1.25 bails of peat per 1000 sqft. mix 2-5lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft if i'm doing a general overseed. for sparse or barespot i use 7 to 15lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft.
Guaranteed best vid I've come across on this topic. thank you!
Love the spreader comparo as well.
Glad it was helpful!
Came for the grass seed tutorial, stayed for the lunatic neighbor kids throwing hands lol
yes! They were pretty awesome
Thanks for the great comparison. I purchased a 36 inch to do my very large back yard. My yard has a very steep hill 25-35 degrees in some areas and this really worked great but was definitely a lot of work. My backyard is also about 16,000Sq Feet. It does not work very well on hills unless you go up the hill so that the roller is as level as possible but otherwise it performed well and saved a lot of raking.
Just wanted to say "Thank you" for going through all that trouble to show distribution on your driveway. Awesome video. 👏👏👏👏
Glad to help! It was a fun project
Is there a video showing the final outcome? @ Pest and Lawn Ginja
it was an over winter project. turned out great. the new growth is really starting to show. I'll show on video soon. I have one area by my back door that didn't take due to heavy traffic from the kids and dog
@@pestandlawnginja I’ll look forward to the video
Great comparison I like the concept of a new overseeding stragedy love it dude
Glad you liked it! It is soo much easier.
Thanks for the video. What was the ratio you used for the peat moss and grass seed when you mixed it in the wheelbarrow?
I learn so much from this channel, thank you so much
Happy to help!
@@pestandlawnginja keep it up
Good idea to test on the concrete, great job on the details.
Thank you! It was fun to see how well they run each material
very good idea! 👍👍👍👍
I'm new to lawn care, I'm in the Midwest and mixing peat moss with grass seed sounds like a game changer... do you still rake it after?
Ha, I knew it, you are in Utah! Knew it, but your license plate confirmed it!
Totally right Josh! Great place to be!
Great video. A couple questions
1.) how many cubic ft of soil per 1k sqft?
2. Soil to seed ratio?
3. If the soil is at all damp will this method work? (Clumping)?
Keep up the great videos! Appreciate it
1. 1.5cu yards of pete moss per 1000 sq ft.
2. 6-10lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft.
3. peat cannot be wet. but damp is ok.
Lol. I'm only halfway through the video... but it's pretty obvious your landzie buddies send you a used spreader of the competition's model and a brand new of their own. I bet you use the landzie a few times and the paint started looking worse too. Otherwise good video so far.
they hit the buy it now button on amazon and sent it my way. after a ton of use the paints and condition is much better than the other.
hey ginga, i got a bunch stuck or binding sprinkler heads, any quick fix for that or a link? i heard to pull the shaft up and spray w vaseline or lithium grease? they work fine once ii pull them up, but the next day they dont go up again, thanks!!! bud
man, i'm too lazy to do repairs on sprinklers so i usually just replace them as they break.
I’ve went to buy one of these last year expecting it to be 100-150 bucks... refuse to pay 300... idk where the justification for that price comes from... seems like a they have a 1100% markup
Not a clue but..... I totally get your point.
It would be justified if you owned a landscaping business. OR relatives (or friends) with whom you could share both the cost and use of the roller.
The Scotts lawnsoil is like 80% sticks, bark. I haven't been able to find something good to mix with sand to level some of my low spots
look into the miracle grow potting soil. scotts re formulated and I completely agree with you
@@pestandlawnginja awesome thanks. With the Scotts miracle grow, would you say a 50/50 mix?
I still can’t bring myself to spend $200-$300 on something I might use twice or 3 times a year.
I feel you! Hard to believe until you try it
I see people spend thousands on ATV's just for a handful of rides per year. All in the mindset of the user.
“ might” is the key word. Once I get the lawn going I’m not going to need a spreader again.
Same thing for having a trailer or a pickup truck.
Too bad rental places near me don’t offer peat spreaders. 😢
Agreed Steve, I asked the best rental company in my area and they never heard of it before! Hoping these will become more common and I’ll rent these whenever I want to overseed.
I found that Home Depot was renting them in my area for $8 for 24 hours.
Good information guys. I’m starting my second business, lawn care in spring. Learning all I can from all you. Even the comments. Thank you. New subscriber here. 👍💪🏼
Good stuff! Slay that lawns
So…anyone else wonders why people put the ears inside the baseball cap?
I can’t focus on anything else now in his videos…
Lol that's sooo hilarious...I've honestly tried doing it myself and seriously the most uncomfortable thing ever...maybe he hasn't figured it out yet
Hey Ninja, I was in the same predicament, did not want to spend too much money on a peat moth spreader so I bought the cheaper one for $160 plus free shipping. I also noticed the cheap lock that came with it so I ordered a luggage latch from Amazon for $4 and just welded it on and it works fine. Since you only use it a few times a year if that I rather save $200 and get something that is a little rough around the edges and that works. Love your videos, keep up the great job.
Love the creativity! Awesome.
Dude, so Landzie sends the competitors product that they obviously pushed off the back of a truck a few dozen times to wreck it. Talking about the packaging and the paint job like it's a new one. The sell out curve for the ginja has been steep.
Should have sent the peak back and asked for another!
😂😂😂😂😂 yah... because I have soo much to gain by not being paid by anyone hahahahaha. Thanks for the feedback and laugh Tom.
I acquired my Peak compost spreader from an Ace Hardware company going out of business for about $40 years upon years ago. Just used it yesterday as a matter of fact to spread my compost redressing and reseeding my front lawn. I didn't mix the seed into the compost but I can see how that would have saved so much time. What I don't like about spreaders is if the material is wet the material will start to clog the holes causing uneven coverage no matter if it be the Landzie or the Peak. I like the larger door swing opening of the Landzie vs the limited opening of the sliding door of the Peak. And yes mostly moist material will inhibit the sliding doors ease. Although my Peak spreader might be decades old and left outside it has weathered and dealt with oxidation extremely well. My Peak compost spreader is a vital part of my home owner yard maintenance equipment. Which means if you have a yard you gotta have one as well as a roller which I use to press the seeds against the soil to help with germination and other roller duties.
Awesome feedback. Thanks for the detailed comment and experience you've had. I do agree that moist / damp materials will cause some disfunction. thanks again.
who cares about the paint job, it's going to get ding up on first use or storage. they both should offer a water bladder so the roller can also be used a lawn roller.
great feedback!
@@pestandlawnginja Yo Im a painter and if the product isnt painted professionally it tells me the care and assembly of the product was shotty im with you on the paint.
when you mix the seed with the peat moss, how do you work out the ratio and know how much seed is going down per the "the bag"?
He replied to another comment - "1.25 bails of peat to 2 to 3lbs of seed per 1000 sqft for a general overseed."
I use 1.25 bails of peat per 1000 sqft. mix 2-5lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft if i'm doing a general overseed. for sparse or barespot i use 7 to 15lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft.
This video makes me want to buy the Peak, NOT the Lanzie.
Awesome. you should do it. Great tools to have.
I swear my mind is thinking the same thing. Better coverage if you ask me
I though the same thing.
Horse people have this thing called a 'newer spreader' that has a metal grinder that spins when engaged and will grind up any horse turds, loose bedding etc into a fine powder. I want to get one to easily top dress my side yard and pasture! That way I can spread seed and easily cover it up with a thin layer of soil and manure afterwards.
That's a great idea!
I think the test on cement where the gap between the ground and spreader expanded metal is small amplified the lines. On grass it would be less an issue . You didn't show how you emptied the big chunks? The crap compost you can get these days has so much coarse uncompleted crap it makes you worry that the pile didnt get hot enough to kill weed seeds. It seems mixing the seeds in with compost has many problems. Your mixing in such a full wheel barrow surely didnt get a good mix. The seeds can be on top or middle of the compost layer. Peat seems to flow so much with even a slight slope during watering your seeds ate not going to cover very evenly. The seeds on top will dry out so quickly. Best to use hand spreader for the seed which is easy. Then cover with the compost spreader. Your lawn has so many bare spots? You mow your putting green grass so low and not level? My lawns have never needed seeding except in trouble spots. Tell us how planting all this competing grass helps the old grass? I think you need to do a screening test on all the big box products and reveal how poor they are. My home compost never has those fresh looking small wood chips. I think these compost places are mixing in these wood chips in near the end of composting to stretch their products.
Hey elkski! Really appreciate the comment. I trashed my back yard from my spring leveling project. I had soo many contractors coming this summer so there wasn't any incentive to fix any of it until after the boarder edgers, trees, landscapers and sprinkler repairs were made. As for the large area in the back that is sparse and bald...... I have mostly shade. The mazama grass seed I'm using is pushing really well. Nothing else will grow there due to the amount of shade. Has nothing to do with mowing low. my front yard is thicker than most peoples and I mow it at .6".
As for the compost spreader. Yes I over applied the peat moss in the barrell. shows better for the camera. I spent more time than showed on camera mixing the grass seed in. it mixed really well. shockingly the peat doesn't clump as much as you'd think once you mix it. Once the peat is wet it sticks to the grass seed. People have been doing this method for years because it works. There is a trade off though. Peat inherintly can be a tad acidic. so areas that have lower ph will commonly have to use lime when they do an application of peat and seed. There's also no compost wood chips in peat moss which is a huge benefit.
If you're using cheap top soil like I demonstrated, there will be wood chips in most bags. I hate to say it but the miracle grow product in the blue bag was the best. spread soo nicely. If i were to do a 50 50 blend I would use that and the peat moss.
I used soil and compost from like 5 different companies and every one had the wood chips in them.
Yes i remember you have lots of shade in the backyard near the patio and where the tramp was plus its wet. And you did the edging. Is it to late to plant grass seed now in SL County?
@@elkskiutah8204 you can do it but expect 30% less yield due to the colder temps
What was your seed to peat moss ratio?
Rental for $20 a day. I can do this for 10 years once a year and still end up on the plus side. And I don’t need room to store it.
soo true
Ginja, Have you done any updates to these spreaders? I really like your idea of mixing the peat moss and grass seed together. That's the first time I've seen that done. Thanks, John
not sure what you mean by updates but i have a few videos on different sections of my lawn that i used it on.
1100 views in an hour, people be "Jonesin" for the Ginga
👊😀 Love it!
Why no promo code for the landline ? Others tubers provide one that is good for 10% off.
Landzie
Like you I have overseed for years but never wanted to pay the extra money. That thing is awesome and I’m sure it would make a huge difference
such a time saver!
@@pestandlawnginja I had a couple spots in my lawn that I sprayed with tenacity to kill bent grass and I over seeded them this fall. They were small so I just hand sprinkled some Pete Moss over them and all of it came up perfectly even. Peat really helps a lot
id say the peak won. less gaps and i would want the chucks in my yard. that's extra organic material that would break down over time. i dont like the clamps on either, i use big leather gloves and those latches looked troublesome. Are you not going to mention the size difference. less filling up with the bigger one. you kept hammering the finish, but how many people care they have a perfect finish, it sounded like you just needed something to be better since they gave you stuff. now, do your civic duty and order your own Peak to see if when you buy it, it has a better finish to make sure nothing was rigged.
The argument is the sticks in the lawn become a pain in the butt. they always float to the top, causes problems with the mowers as well and getting one in the foot is always a pain.
Do you think it’s still worth it to buy the lawn leveler after using this to distribute the soil, seed and moss?
absolutely. They are two completely different tools. You'd think the drop spreader would help smooth things out and it does to an extent. but it really doesn't do well with sand. does fairly well with top soil but it doesn't drop as much as you would suppose.
When the competitor product spreads better than yours 😬
LOL
I have a question. After putting down the seed and peat moss, do you recommend put straw down to prevent wash out if you're working with a sloped lawn?
I think its a good idea for washout purposes.
I reviewed this product this year to, I really like the idea of rolling it across the driveway, really shows what works and what doesn't. I saw a review of it where they used a sandy soil and this was the wrong material for it IMO. Nice video.
Totally agree! sand would not be ideal. the holes would have to be soo small. I'll have to check your video out!
@@pestandlawnginja Cool :) ua-cam.com/video/tC6lukkD1Mk/v-deo.html
Even though the seed is mixed with the peat, doesn't some of the seed still end up sitting on top of the peat? Seems like it would. Also seems like, once watered some of the peat would settle while some of the seed would sit only partially covered? Does that matter?
I've tested these concerns because I had them too. The only real issue was bald spots getting washed out from too much water and the peat being too light
Awesome video, very informative. I will definitely use a spreader for my top dressing project next season.
Wonderful! You'll be shocked how much time it'll save you.
I think I learned something new! Im going to try this.
As a bonus, if that flaky green paint actually lands on your lawn, it will make it look greener! Ha!
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The peak wins....much more even and smooth.
could be
That looks like the way to go for overseeding. I just did my overseeding and I put all the peat moss down by hand. This method looks way, way better. Really, if you are going to be overseeding twice a year, every year, this seems like a worthwhile investment.
so true ms sassy! speeds things up and does a better job in the end.
Bought it on these video recommendation, used it as outlined, and it wasn't worth it!
Got the same or better results by scratching a cross hatch with a rake, using a broadcast spreader, mist watering until damp, then rolling the area. The seed flowed into the cross hatch valleys during watering and rolling mashed the peaks down, capturing the seed in the folds.
How are the results? I'm going to use broadcast spreader first for seeds. I usually prepare earlier, start to sprout straw earlier to rid it of weeds.I'm a few weeks behind the weather in N. California. I'm trying the peat moss top dressing first time.
Results so far have been great. The areas of my back yard that get partial to full sun did great. germinated within 3 weeks. it's very cold here in utah. The other areas will fill in as the ground temps rise next spring. A week after I put the seed down the temps plumited to 17 degrees.
Correct me if I’m wrong, based on what I saw, you were using soil leveler after seeding. When it’s designed to level soil before seeding. So you promote peat moss / compost spreader with is designed to be use after seeding. Anyway thank you for spreader comparison that really useful there for I’ll like the video.
this is a compost spreader. not made for leveling. I have done a few leveling videos and leveled the dirt first, then compost spreader and seed afterward.
I was researching tow behind top dressers for my lawn tractor, and believe me this looks like it does the same job for a fraction of the cost.
Good call! It’s a great machine. They offer it in a wider model to
Excellent demonstration. With a machine like this would would you typically charge for a over seeding a standard size yard? Like the one you did on your own home? Tyvm
I would charge $150 to $200 per hour plus materials ie seed and dirt.
Yea I do the same work here in Calgary Alberta, I feel we have simillar weather patterns, so I’m close in price then cuz I’m looking around the 225-275 range for a yard your size, love that landzie, I need to order one of them
They make things easier, that’s for sure
What did it look like after it germinated?
Most areas that didnt get covered in oce look fantastic. I seeded super late last fall. Spring will tell
I have a few things. I hate that I just found you a couple days ago, REALLY good channel Ginga! Couple comments, and then a serious question I've had about spreading the peat moss.
First, the photobomb at the beginning was pretty funny from the neighbor kids. Glad you didn't edit that out.
The boys playing with the spreader and the dog was pretty funny too.
My question about spreading the peat moss: Are you able to spread it with a broadcast spreader? Most of us already have these, and was just wondering if anyone has tried this and what kind of results have they had.
Watched your video last night where you attempted using the broadcast spreader, and answered my own question....
i couldnt get it to go through a broadcast spreader.
The spreaders are a game changer. I used it for peat moss and while I won't bother buying one to have to store it, I was able to rent an abused one from HD. Even with the latch being a PITA it saved me so much time. I will never not use one, twice a year... lol It definitely made for a more efficient application.
Thanks for sharing your experience. it is a game changer.
i got mine yesterday I love it! how did your lawn turn out after you did yours?
awesome. always does. I've done this process many many times. you can see the area in some of my later videos it all grew through incredibly well.
Thanks for the video I’m trying to help my mother in law with her grass and bring it back to life. Is this something you do daily in the morning and how many times do I water? Also do I water right after? I’m clueless and have no ideas
general rule of thumb is the grass and soil needs to stay damp at all times for 2 to 4 weeks depending on the seed type you're planting.