Installing Method Wheels on Gen 2 Ford Raptor
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The wheels look awesome.
Two tips:
If you use an impact gun you don't need to loosen the lugs on the ground, you can do it in the air.
Also if you lift the truck just a small distance from the ground you don't have to lift the heavy wheels as high.
should you add new loctite? 3:38
Powdermonkey99
I have never used Loctite, but nearly all cars in Germany use wheel bolts instead of lug nuts, so maybe there is a difference. You certainly don't need Loctite on wheel bolts and I think you don't necessarily need to use Loctite with lug nuts, but I'm not 100% sure with lug nuts.
As far as I’ve known loctite damages the studs when trying to take a lugnut back off. I sure don’t miss doing maintenance on big ass diesel trucks and duellies. That shit was quite a strain on the back having trucks 4 1/2 feet in the air. Glad I only do my own vehicle maintenance now and got out of working in automotive industry.
Loctite or any type of thread locker, anti seize, etc. SHOULD NOT be used on lug nuts. It changes the coefficient of friction between the lug nut and the stud. It’s a good way to end up with overtorqued lug nuts since your torque wrench will read a lower torque value due to the reduced friction from the loctite etc. If you torque the lugs nuts to spec on dry studs, you should be fine. Just remember to retorque after some driving and then you should have zero concern of anything loosening up. FYI. There are calculations that will allow you to find the modified torque value needed based on the type of thread locker etc. used, but the lug nuts aren’t worth that.
yep, I have never used anything on lug nuts or studs. And I always just zip the nuts off in the air with the impact. Break them on the ground if you have to use a breaker bar. And this is from 20+ years and probably hundreds of times removing and putting wheels back on my cars.
If you're using an impact you don't have to break the lugs on the ground, that's just so the wheel doesn't spin when you're using a breaker bar.
I literally fell out of my chair laughing when you tried to put on that first wheel. Great vid, Matt!
That's why I leave this stuff in. This is how stuff like this goes. I've never removed a truck wheel/tire in my life.
Obsessed Garage seemingly simple jobs and learning curves , dontcha just love 'em . Looks a beast
Obsessed Garage did wheels not come with hubrings?
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I purchased a Gaither wheel dolly for lifting and mounting the wheels. It's heavy duty.
"Lets be a little smarter about this" Goes and gets loads of bits of wood......... JUST LOWER THE LIFT FOR CRYING OUT MAN!!!! LoL
Then the rear wheels would be touching the ground.
Obsessed Garage so you'd do the fronts first then lifted it to do the rears? That's the way id have done it anyway.
like you've never over analyzed a situation and then were like the hell am i doing..cut the dude a break he couldve edited that part out but didnt... screams honest dude
Obsessed Garage
Put the that wheel and tire on a scale let’s see how much it weight? I’m guessing over 100lbs easily
lol
I was actually laughing out loud when you made the comment about truck guys laughing their faces off, but only because I've been there! Great stuff!
HUGE improvement. Seeing someone else struggle trying to put a truck wheel on make me feel better about myself :-)
Easiest way to to lift wheels on to the hub is to sit on the stool and stand the wheel up in front of you. Grab the lower spoke and then wedge your feet under the tire. As you lift the wheel to the hub, wedge your foot farther under the tire and then lift with your feet as well. Much easier than any other way I've tried.
Gregory Veizades That's how I do it, but once you get up to 35" tires+ nothing works well. You just don't have enough levridge at that angle.
Never seen someone make changing wheels look so hard. What a project you made that.
Love the honesty man when you talked about filming wheel 2 first... your a stand up dude speaks a lot about your character... wheels look awesome nice job
Looking great! I remember the first time I put a big tire on a truck.. it liked to kill me! You're not alone in your struggles Mat!
So I guess I wasn’t the only one yelling at the screen; “lower the lift!!”
Also, put some tape on the hex of the lug adapter, that way it will stay in the socket and won’t drop and potentially damage your wheels.
When you put your lugnuts on can you still see some silver around them the nuts did not cover? I have tried two different sizes and I can still see silver. Please advise
You know what you where thinking; I can't wait to see these wheels on! lol
Keep us updated on the stainless bolts. That's interesting..Looks Great!
I went with some black nylon bolts to replace the zinc hardware. Looks great, very subtle change but it can definitely set you apart from the other fake beadlockers out there.
Have you experienced any rubbing with this 325 R18 Method/KO2 combination on the Gen 1? Is it necessary to change your perch level?
OMG the first tire I about died laughing!
Look great. Make quite a difference to the truck. So cool having the ramp too!
I have a Makita Impact Driver (max torque 140 Nm / 103 ft lb), would I be able to put a socket adapter on either to remove lug nuts?
I don't think so. I believe this 1/2" impact from Milwaukee is 700ft lb.
Looks AWESOME ! perfect offset
I knew you were going to struggle putting those wheels back on when I saw you take them off! Lol.... Those are some sick wheels! It’s a good look from the stock wheels. Not sure of what ford was thinking about with the stock wheels. Great video!
Did you put the truck into the tpms training mode forst? If not you didn't program the new sensors. The reason you didn't have a light is most likely because you have the old wheels sitting next to the truck still.
Was there ever any rubbing with the stock setup and the new wheels/tires?
I purchased a Gaither wheel dolly for moving and mounting the wheels. It's heavy duty and works great with the rollers mounted to the outer most holes and with the tire sitting about 3 inches away from the rear rollers.
nice wheels, did youhave any rubbing on full lock that required trimming of plastic? Any rubbing in rear?
No rubbing with this setup.
So do you install the tire with the bead lock on the rim?
Matt, What are you doing to the front? Leveling kit? If so, what are you going to use? Just picked up a white 2018 Raptor to go with my lightning blue 18 GT350
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FYI: I'd use some Jack stands with scissor lift for added stability and safety. That's what I do when use them(don't own set of my own, cuz expensive. But use when need to). I'd feel little better for you if had some stands, & or hydraulic jack lift in front & or back of vehicle as well, if you feel weight limit is being reached, or you feel unsafe in trusting scissor lifts. Hope this helps. Great vid. Cheers, A
AWESOME look Matt! The wheels look dope offsetting the color of the truck! (Being that the blue and black is your signature colors lol) #salutefromOhio
Truck looks awesome! I just put a set of methods on my 2018 Raptor, going to get those center caps 👍🏻
Thanks man. Those center caps are so simple, but look so much better.
great video. how would this tire/wheel combo look on my plain ol, non-raptor f150 regular cab short bed? hmmm
I’m here for the same thing
Matt, i wish i was in FL i would help you. I have learn so much from you about detailing and i like my garage with that swisstrax on it. anytime i open my garage, washing my car outside and people walking on the path walk there jaw dropped looking inside my garage lol.
Looks Great! What an improvement
Do you have link for center hub?
hey there obessed garage....are you going to do a bumper like your 1st gen raptors?
Yes, ADD Pro.
Great video. where did you have the center caps made for those method wheels?
www.chiefmachining.com/products/94mmcaps
Fantastic looking wheels
Truck looks amazing!!
Love the Raptor content.
You dont need to break the lugs on the ground if you have a impact, you only have to do that so if you use a breaker bar the wheel doesnt move
what lugs did you use?
The wheels and painted fenders look SO good. Looking forward to seeing the new bumpers on there. I've had Gtechniq C5 on the Methods on my 4runner for over a year and it's still holding up great. I didn't bother to top it with anything either.
Bumper just arrived today! Going to get it installed in the next week or 2.
Looks great wow amazing now get ADD bumpers with light bar and winch.
Looks great, I totally agree with not "going to the Shop " lol for about anything
dam that thing is gorgeous! wanna make mine look just like this but different color
Matt can you get these wheels in a 17 and use the factory K02?
Yes, they offer them in 17 in the proper offset.
I was laughing watching you struggle with the wheels...i had the same problem with mine, so i used the 2x6 tripled it and lowered and raised the truck with my jack. heavy buggers. not sure if my wheels are heavier, i have beadlock capable wheels from ford, but i will never take them off again..hehehe...thanx for the vlog.
Wheels and tires look great man. They change the look 110%.for the better.
Thanks!
You don't need to remove the lugs in the star pattern as well, only when torquing them on.
What’s the tire and wheel sizes? And offset? I love the look! Fits perfectly!
Shoot, I can't remember exactly. I think 18x9 ET18 and 325/30/18.
The Raptor looks great with those wheels!
I love this video. Thumbs up!!
my back hurts after watching you. The struggle is real.
They should have given you rings when you received your rims from tire rack.
Use your lift to just keep the rims off the ground.Maybe a quarter inch off of the ground.
Trust me most guys that spend a lot of money on there truck mods, dont mud it.
Agree - I normally just lift mine barely enough off the ground so you don't have to lift the tire much yourself.
It's the funniest tires change I've ever seen 🤣🤣🤣
I’m a Ford technician and the way you “reset” the tpms isn’t correct. The correct way is to put the truck into training mode. The way you do this is cycle the key on/off 3 times (don’t turn the truck on, should be key on engine off) and press the brake, and you keep doing this until the truck honks and there will be a message on the dash saying “Train left front tire”. The truck is now in training mode and will learn whatever psi your tires are at. The info you had on pointing the tool at the tpms is correct, but since the truck wasn’t in training mode it did nothing. If the truck was in training mode the truck would honk whenever you reset the tpms on each wheel. Sorry for the long comment (my first comment as well). Love the vids and looking forward to all your new ones!
That makes sense as the TPMS read 37 PSI for about 5 miles, then jumped to nearly 70. I should have check the pressures. Tire Rack must send them over aired for shipping.
Finally, someone with patient counsel in helping those that are trying to DYI their vechicles. I appreciate your time and instruction Mikey Moto!
The result is sick ! Love it Matt ! 91 people watched and drive Prius .
Thanks brother!
I like that hydraulic lift can you give some information on it please👍
It is this one: www.obsessedgarage.com/collections/lifts/products/twin-busch-tw-s3-19-double-scissor-lift
How is the ride with the E-Rated KO2's?
I think they ride really well. I'm a huge fan.
2015+ F150 dont need to learn TPMS. They'll automatically detect the sensors within like 15 miles of driving. You can also turn the ignition to accessory mode, hit the hazard switch on and off 3 times (press 6 times) and it'll go into learn mode, then you just release pressure from the tires one at a time until you hear a honk after each wheel.
Looks great !
liked it because you left the outtakes during the wheel install haha we're all human and I always make sure to show my flaws and and mess ups on the daily haha keep up the great work brother !!
Bingo
Man it completely changed the attitude of the truck.
If they were available 18x10 would be my preference. Regardless, the truck looks amazing !
The travel on that suspension is crazy. Imagine trying to lift a corner of that thing high enough to change a flat.
Look at the suspension travel as he lifted the truck. I’m jelly.
Matt, torque from the other side of the wheel so you are pushing down on the torque wrench using your body weight to the advantage.
The truck looks fantastic!
I don't like pushing down. It always feels better to me pulling. I like the control of it.
Have you ever changed a wheel before?
Hope the backs of the wheels weren't too scratched.... But it does look awesome!!
I like hiw the fender flares color matches the body of the raptor
8:36 I know how that feels Brother, always happening to me too lol
Credit for not editing this. It is what it is. He's learning!
This is sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need one of those.
Beautiful truck and wheels man.
That mounting moment oh God lol 😆
ROFL you can’t stand to side of wheel Matt stand directly in front lift with squat at gym. I know you were trying not to block camera. But don’t hurt ur back. Still priceless! Looks amazing.
Why didn't you just lower the truck to the hight of the wheel and just slide the wheel onto the lug studs?
Use your feet to pick up the tire and mount . Just barely lift the truck off the ground and you will save your back etc.
Rear is lower than the front.
One at a time Matt
Very good advice.
Looks great.
Yes, the Method wheels look much better than the factory girly-man wheels. I have a built Jeep Wrangler with a 6 inch lift that is built for serious off-road, and I presently have 35 inch BFG KM2's. When I change out/rotate wheels, I use the following method:
First, I jack up the vehicle so tires is only about 1-2 inches clearance above the ground.
Then once ready to install the wheel, I rotate the truck wheel hub so as to position a lug bolt at the 12 o'clock position. I then position the wheel up against the hub also "clocked" with a lug hole also at the 12 o'clock position.
I then sit on the floor facing the wheel and position my right foot at the 5 o'clock position next to the tire tread, and my left foot at the 7 o'clock position, I pivot on my feet on the ground with my heels and lift the wheel with my feet.
I then position the wheel on the hub and install the lug nuts.
It's surprising how much strength there is in one's feet/ankle, I can easily raise the wheel enough so I can position the wheel into the lug nuts and begin to install the lug nuts.
Hope this makes sense, it eliminates having to use your back for lifting a 100 lb wheel then trying to balance it onto the truck hub. I've used this method for many years now and would recommend it if you can make it work for you. Much better than taking the risk of damaging your back.
You used a similar method with the wooden blocks being used to hold the wheel high enough to fit the wheel on the truck hub, so in the end you did find a way to get it on there.
And I do like the new wheels much better. No more factory girly-man wheels! LOL
I also like the GT3 RS style air vents in the front fenders.
Good Luck!
Good stuff.
Yeah I do it similar by clocking the wheel to match the hub's lug pattern position. I usually don't turn the hub, sometimes I can't if the parking brake is engaged or if the car in park on a FWD car. I just turn the wheel until the lug pattern matches the studs position on the hub.
What brand lug nut socket is that?
Schwaben
Running the calculation of each tire size puts the new ones at barely 1/4 inch taller than the old tires. 34.36" for the old tires, 34.63" for the new ones, give or take, since there's always some variation from what the calculated tire diameter is.
That's about what I observed unscientifically.
For air tools, I know you were looking at Chicago Pneumatic, but you should also look into Astro Pneumatics. They have great products and great Customer Service, similar to Twin Busch. I have used and abused both and Astro seems to hold up better and usually cost is better as well
I'll check them out.
lower the vehicle would it make it easier to put on tires?
Its not rocket science is it, lol.
Yeah if the wheels need to go higher bring the truck lower...
I am a car guy and I want this truck. I think the Raptor does a good job of being sporty truck without trying to be a sports car.
Agreed.
Looks perfect! It will ride perfect, tires will be as quiet as stock, it will be as fast as stock, will handle as good as stock and your mph will not need calibration. Exactly how I would do it (and have done it). So many people seem to be crazy about huge lifts and huge tires and most of those pickups ride like garbage, handle like garbage, go slower, and so on... and most never use the added ground clearance.
I'm going with a 0 offset raceline wheel. It should sit about a half inch further out. Are you going to install any mudflaps? Roadbloks makes some good looking ones, that seem to be popular in the raptor community.
I don't think I am. I won't be doing any off-roading.
Obsessed Garage if anything they look good. Why are you putting deavers in the rear, if not for performance? I understand the level for the front, the factory rake is a bit excessive.
Obsessed Garage the main reason I'm going with some sort of mudflap is to protect the paint. The rear fenders and door handles catch quite a few rocks and debri from the road.
Good video.Nice Truck😀
Looks good
Lower scissor lifts to be able to mount tires, just barely, then raise back up to properly install. Or use hydraulic lift & lift tires to axle to mount the tires. It's so painful to watch you struggling. Hope this gives you some ideas of what can do to help you with things like this. Just something I've learned hard way as well, 😉 & damaging something while trying to install, sucks big time, as I've done, lol. L8R, A
I weigh 148 and I just sit on the ground and put my legs under the tire. Most of the time I just sit in a chair and put my foot under the tire.
I call you SMART for not wanting to work under it way up in the air!
Not obsessed enough. Method wheels, meeeh! Get Braid Winrace S or Fondmetal Evo Corse, this truck deserves it.
Put the truck higher on the lift so you can bear-hug the tire and adjust your height with your legs. Less back strain and hunched twisting.
next steup.. Headlight Tint with Shadowshield Dyno PPF than Tail lights Tint with Vivid light smoke ;)
Looks damn good 😎👍
Thanks!
whats the model # on the Milwaukee Impact wrench?
I'm not sure on that one.
Obsessed Garage if you could check on the side of it next time you have it out I'd be grateful. It should be a 4 digit number starting with "2"
Looks so sick
Honestly Man great job you got a lot going for you. These people are going to hate. I was wondering if this look fits the same on a regular cab f150?
It should fit.
@@ObsessedGarage but this one has flares doesn’t it? F150 doesn’t.
I actually think that chrome lugs would have complimented the silver rivets around the outside rim.
Nay, the 70s would then be calling for the return of their chrome, lol. Had to get that in before Jeremy Clarkson did.
Sorry Matt but I did laugh at you when you tried to put the wheels on.
Flat6King man! I cringed and laughed when my guy put the first one on too lol. But it looks awesone though!
Wow!!!! This episode is hilarious !
You know me, entertainer at the core.
We have all had our moments in mechanical foolishness, Matt just films his.
Bingo.