Subscribe for Daily Ford Truck Videos: bit.ly/2pReEeg Check Out Parts For Your F150 Right Here: www.americantrucks.com/the-haul-news-june2019-2.html Wheel and Tire Setups From The Video: Black Rhino York Matte Gunmetal 6-Lug Wheel +12mm 20x9 - amtrucks.at/31arrff Fuel Wheels Krank Black Milled 6-Lug Wheel - 20x10 (04-19 F-150) -24mm offset - amtrucks.at/31dgZE0 Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ P3 Tire - amtrucks.at/2E3vnWZ
AmericanTrucks Ford I want to go with a 24inc wheel on my 2015 f150 so what would be the best size to go with without any problem with rubbing but yet still enough tire for cushion on the ride
I believe I have a negative "24" on mine, I have aftermarket wheels and tires and I have to take it back to Ford because they were never balanced correctly.
@@americantrucks 1/9/20, There's really no reason to do this, the factory wheels do just fine, this is just something else to sell you. I live in farm country where contractors/farmers/ranchers w/real work trucks are outfitted w/the right equipment for what they do. Then there's the "pretty-boy trux" w/all this fancy aftermarket stuff.....that doesn't do anything @ all! I drive a 2015 Taurus w/a trailer hitch 4/a 4"x"6" mesh carry-all (1650 LBS/$600. in Lowe's), good enough 4what I need, cheaper than a trk when I don't always need a trk. (I'm ret. from a NY transit auth. where I've used many types of trux over time).
FYI, wheel width comes into play here as well as two wheels with the same offset yet one is wider than the other; the wider wheel will poke out more. Case in point is the first wheel was an 8.5" and the second was a 9". The wheel at the same offset would poke an extra 1/4" (or ~6mm) more. So going to a +12 in the 9" wide wheel from a +44 8.5" wheel has about the same poke as an 8.5" would at +6 offset. This is why these 20x12 -44 wheels poke out so much; it's not just the negative offset, it's the huge width change too.
My own personal preference as far as how far tires should stick out: 1” or less past the fenders if there are no flares. If there are fender flares it should also be an 1” or less past the edge of the flares. But hey that’s just me of course :)
Just spent almost $1900 on the website today😅😅 got 18x9 with -12 offset for my new wheels. New exhaust, headlights, and intake. I’m excited. Plus I’m installing my leveling kit for my new wheels next week
Great visual with the rubbing in the wheel well. I was having a hell of a time understanding why a positive offset would make it rub. It’s not the side of the wheel well closest to the engine you have to worry about, it’s the inside of the fender directly in front and back of the wheel!
EME June Lee I took the factory blocks off the rear and just lowered the rear. It’s the same as a 2X4 truck now. I can actually touch the bottom of the bed now.
That's so awesome u came out with this video. Just so happens I'm waiting for the last parts of my lift to be delivered today. Have my tire/wheels sitting in the garage with a -24 wrapped in a 35"x12.50. perfect timing thanks
Nice clear video guys, the animations help a lot. I don’t have a very aggressive offset on my wheels, but I question how much less I would have needed to trim had I gone with a most positive offset wheel.
I was pulling my hair trying to decide what offst to get. Glad i watched this video. I now know 0 offset is still offset from the stock wheels im replacing. I love the look of big neg offsets but living on a dirt road i will stick with tiny bit of offset
I can't stand offset. Acceptable if fender flares are added but there's nothing like stock with some nice all terrains. Better fuel economy and no damage from the tires all around the sides of your truck
I love these videos, especially the ones with Justin. I am a new truck owner, someone who doesn't need to own a truck but wanted one so I am completely lost when it comes to most things trucks and every video I've seen with Justin is super clear and not too long-winded. I already bought running boards and an antenna from you guys and looking at new rims and decals next.
I am glad to see companies talking about what the wheel and tire combos will do to people's trucks in a realistic fashion. Will you guys get into how these setups change scrub angle and what that means for stability especially while towing?
I've watched this video many times, and it is a really good one! The only thing missing is a 0 offset. It would be cool to compare the +12, the 0, and the -12. But well done overall!
I have the same truck same color and putting on basically the same tires. Glad I was able to see what they’d look like with offset. I’ll be getting some new rims before installing the Mickey Thompson tires. Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to fully explain in great detail about offset, love your channel and will definitely be using your website for my new 2022 super duty!
Love the grey ford trucks! Think that is lead foot and the 2019 is called abyss grey, both of those are 🔥. Ordering one next year or might wait to see what the 2021 looks like
I have a 2018 F150 With a 2.5 supreme suspension level 17” BMF drt pro wheels 8.5 wide + 6 offset With atturo trailblade XT’s 35x12.5x17 no rubbing at all and about an inch of poke
Thank you for the insights...great to know the pros and cons of off-set rims...now iam all set for zero off-set for my pajero for daily use and offroads
This story is covered in detail at Torque News at "Video Explains Ford F-150 Offsets and Helps Owners With Key Info About Tires" www.torquenews.com/3769/video-helps-f150-owners-providing-them-key-info-about-pickup-tires-offsets
I have a 3 inch lifted STX..........stock wheels with 325/65R/18 tires............have my share of rubbing, mainly on the upper control arm. Hopefully this vid helps me out. :)
These kinds of things are always going to be highly subjective, and everyone obviously has their own opinion. When I went looking for wheel and tire combination for my 2020 F150, the possibilities were seemingly endless. However, it doesn't take that long to start whittling things down. Style, size, offset, hub bore, price, and availability quickly become factors, and the list of potentials gets quite short. My truck came with stock 20's (275/55R20), with the obligatory +44 factory offset. While there's a lot of options for 20 inch wheels, I was never crazy about that wheel size. I chose the path of less wheel and more tire. The final verdict was Fuel Assault 17 X 8.5, +14mm offset, with Toyo Open Country 3s, LT 285/75R17 load range C tires. The combination of less offset with a wider and taller tire has given my truck the exact look I was hoping for, and the Open Country 3s have performed well in the northeast snow. That being said, anyone who's unfamiliar with these types of things, but looking to change their factory wheels should watch this video, multiple times if necessary. It's very clear cut, informative, and gives a great visualization of exactly how offset will affect the look of your vehicle.
My current setup on Hilux 2018: 265/60R18 9J ET+12 . New setup would be 265/70R17 8J ET+20. Offset calculators online say that poke would be 20mm less. But if i still have same width of the wheel 265 Wouldnt the wheel sink in less in to the wheel well (20-12 = 8mm). So I'd still have tyre "poking" out just 8mm less than the current setup.
You should mention that wheel bearings will suffer with more offset. Be prepared to replace sooner. Also steering components will suffer and a tendency to follow road imperfections.
Had the last set of wheels and tires in video on 2018 Tundra (tons of metal and plastic trimming) - exact set up. Added fender flares to protect body. Nice stance though. Rides pretty different
I have factory 18" wheels on my 2016 XLT...I'd like a more aggressive stance but don't want to modify anything and don't want any suspension issues to worry about...I want the all around multi purpose setup ,looks like that 12mm negative offset with a 20" wheel might be the answer for me.
Remember, width and offset combined are what create poke. Trying to show what changing offset alone does should be done by only changing offset. The three wheels you showed have different widths, 8.5”, 9”, and 10”.
Okay I realized some people like to make their big wheels look fancy but I'm getting sick and f****** tired of getting a rock slung on my windshield and having to pay for windshield repair and or replacement, in Louisiana it's illegal to have your wheels stick out past its wheel covering and the state police have announced they're going to start cracking down if you don't have extended wheel fender wells😂
Well you can use a spacer to achieve negative offset. For instance if you have a wheel with a +15mm offset and add a 25mm spacer your actual offset will now be -10mm. Hope this makes sense? -Justin
You didn't discuss spacers. I know it's an inferior solution to achieving a more aggressive stance, but A LOT of people use them. I'm not a huge fan of really aggressive poke, but I do find this stuff interesting. Is using spacers safe? Does it harm the vehicle's suspension or hubs? For someone like me who prefers an OEM look but wants a more flush look, I'm wondering if simply using a 1 inch spacer with factory wheels is a reasonable option on a F-150.
First of all, I do appreciate you taking the time to inform your audience of this very important issue amongst us truck owners. Secondly, if I want to maintain my stock wheel on my 23 F-150, how do I achieve the +12 offset (a poke of about 1") with spacers (I assume) ?🤔
@@americantrucks I was going to ask the same thing so lets say i put 35/11.50/20 on my current 20 inch stock ford rim i have a 2 inch leveling kit Will that mess up my offset any?
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Wheel and Tire Setups From The Video:
Black Rhino York Matte Gunmetal 6-Lug Wheel +12mm 20x9 - amtrucks.at/31arrff
Fuel Wheels Krank Black Milled 6-Lug Wheel - 20x10 (04-19 F-150) -24mm offset - amtrucks.at/31dgZE0
Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ P3 Tire - amtrucks.at/2E3vnWZ
AmericanTrucks Ford I want to go with a 24inc wheel on my 2015 f150 so what would be the best size to go with without any problem with rubbing but yet still enough tire for cushion on the ride
What size of tires are +12mm
I believe I have a negative "24" on mine, I have aftermarket wheels and tires and I have to take it back to Ford because they were never balanced correctly.
Will front and rear flaps help with mud and rocks slinging from negative 24 offset wheels?
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This video should be at every tire and wheel shop in the country. Great explanation of what offset is. Awesome job
Thank you very much, Joe! Offset and backspacing is a mystery for most people. We really thought this would help! -Zach
@@americantrucks 1/9/20, There's really no reason to do this, the factory wheels do just fine, this is just something else to sell you. I live in farm country where contractors/farmers/ranchers w/real work trucks are outfitted w/the right equipment for what they do. Then there's the "pretty-boy trux" w/all this fancy aftermarket stuff.....that doesn't do anything @ all! I drive a 2015 Taurus w/a trailer hitch 4/a 4"x"6" mesh carry-all (1650 LBS/$600. in Lowe's), good enough 4what I need, cheaper than a trk when I don't always need a trk. (I'm ret. from a NY transit auth. where I've used many types of trux over time).
I totally agree..
They should also explain that agressive aftermarket offsets wear out OEM wheel hub assemblies fairly quick.
Perfect explanation!
I find it fascinating the further from rural places and closer to suburbs and cities I get
the more off road looking vehicles there are
Best video ever on the subject.
Is really
This is the best explanation of this topic I've seen. Graphics of the differences help tremendously. Thank you!
FYI, wheel width comes into play here as well as two wheels with the same offset yet one is wider than the other; the wider wheel will poke out more. Case in point is the first wheel was an 8.5" and the second was a 9". The wheel at the same offset would poke an extra 1/4" (or ~6mm) more. So going to a +12 in the 9" wide wheel from a +44 8.5" wheel has about the same poke as an 8.5" would at +6 offset.
This is why these 20x12 -44 wheels poke out so much; it's not just the negative offset, it's the huge width change too.
So going to a 20x10 with a -18mm offset will poke around the same as a 9 inch width and -24mm offset?
awesome video. I always wondered what that off-set talk was all about.
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I just learned alot in a short amount of time. Great presentation.
I did not expect such a well-produced, informative video when I landed here. Well done!!!
Thanks a lot for the kind words! We really appreciate it! -Zach
My own personal preference as far as how far tires should stick out: 1” or less past the fenders if there are no flares. If there are fender flares it should also be an 1” or less past the edge of the flares. But hey that’s just me of course :)
Man, I feel smarter about tires. This was a great tutorial on what I’m looking at when considering new wheels and tires. Great video!!
Thanks for the kind words, Chris! Glad it helped out! -Zach
Just spent almost $1900 on the website today😅😅 got 18x9 with -12 offset for my new wheels. New exhaust, headlights, and intake. I’m excited. Plus I’m installing my leveling kit for my new wheels next week
Thanks for the business David- we appreciate it greatly! -Justin
The best video i have ever seen explaing this
1/9/20, Useless aftermarket equipment on equally useless vid!
Preston Weiters Jr. If it’s not for you then don’t get it lol. He is just explaining something 😂😂
Great visual with the rubbing in the wheel well. I was having a hell of a time understanding why a positive offset would make it rub. It’s not the side of the wheel well closest to the engine you have to worry about, it’s the inside of the fender directly in front and back of the wheel!
Hands down the best video about offset meaning. Made shopping for wheels much much easier. Thanks guys!
Awesome, thank you! Glad we could help! -Justin
I swore I wasn’t going to level my truck or put wheels on it. Videos like this make that promise hard to keep.
It'll look great, Jack! You got this! 😂 -Zach
what’d you end up doing?
EME June Lee
I took the factory blocks off the rear and just lowered the rear. It’s the same as a 2X4 truck now. I can actually touch the bottom of the bed now.
Great job and video. Thanks for clearing that up. Always wondered which offset to get and what was stock. In my case the +12 would be preferable.
That's so awesome u came out with this video. Just so happens I'm waiting for the last parts of my lift to be delivered today. Have my tire/wheels sitting in the garage with a -24 wrapped in a 35"x12.50. perfect timing thanks
Nice clear video guys, the animations help a lot. I don’t have a very aggressive offset on my wheels, but I question how much less I would have needed to trim had I gone with a most positive offset wheel.
I was pulling my hair trying to decide what offst to get. Glad i watched this video. I now know 0 offset is still offset from the stock wheels im replacing. I love the look of big neg offsets but living on a dirt road i will stick with tiny bit of offset
Man it took me so long to understand wheel offset until I stumbled on this video. Wow - amazing! thank you!
with all the other competitions I think I find this the best video and best website to buy rims and tires.
I can't stand offset. Acceptable if fender flares are added but there's nothing like stock with some nice all terrains. Better fuel economy and no damage from the tires all around the sides of your truck
I love these videos, especially the ones with Justin. I am a new truck owner, someone who doesn't need to own a truck but wanted one so I am completely lost when it comes to most things trucks and every video I've seen with Justin is super clear and not too long-winded. I already bought running boards and an antenna from you guys and looking at new rims and decals next.
I am glad to see companies talking about what the wheel and tire combos will do to people's trucks in a realistic fashion. Will you guys get into how these setups change scrub angle and what that means for stability especially while towing?
I've watched this video many times, and it is a really good one! The only thing missing is a 0 offset. It would be cool to compare the +12, the 0, and the -12. But well done overall!
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Best presentation of offset and backspacing.
Great job guys. Viewing this video is a must before you get them new tyres. Keep the flame burning.
Thank you, Aftab! We really appreciate the love! -Zach
I was just asking about this in an F150 group I’m in, glad i found this. Im looking at some +35mm offsets for mine and was confused.
Happy to hear this video helped you out! Thank you so much for watching and make sure to subscribe! -Zach
Simple explanation, great video representation……overall perfect video for this topic. Thx AT!
Great video with great information. I could have used this when I had my Jeep Wrangler.
I have the same truck same color and putting on basically the same tires. Glad I was able to see what they’d look like with offset. I’ll be getting some new rims before installing the Mickey Thompson tires. Thanks!
Thanks for watching, Brandon! We appreciate it! -Zach
The best explanation I have seen on YT. Thanks guys!
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Best explanation of wheel geometry I've ever seen well done!
Thanks Lucky! -Justin
Great breakdown and just what I was looking for. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching! -Zach
Great video 👍🏻 I really didn’t understood offset before
Thank you for taking the time to fully explain in great detail about offset, love your channel and will definitely be using your website for my new 2022 super duty!
Thank you for watching! -Zach
the animation at 8:57 is priceless!
Wow that +12 offset is perfect
Best explains out of all the videos I’ve watched thank you
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Answered my questions of what I need to do with my '15 f150. Thanks
Thanks for the feedback, Blaine! -Zach
Thank you for this! Very informative and easy enough for anyone to understand
Thank you for watching! -Zach
Absolutely what I was looking for same year and model of truck, definitely very helpful.
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
Love the grey ford trucks! Think that is lead foot and the 2019 is called abyss grey, both of those are 🔥. Ordering one next year or might wait to see what the 2021 looks like
Just the video I was looking. Good job explaining the offset.
Thanks for watching, Antonio! We appreciate it a bunch! -Zach
Graphics department for the win on this one.
No doubt- it was actually done by one of our very talented video editors who is a jack of all trades. -Justin
i just got smarter now these are the classes i like 😎
1/9/20, No, you just got dumber. Who needs this junk? It's just some aftermarket, hi-priced stuff 2 sell U! ...... over & above original equipment.
8:57 Really helpful animation
Now I know what I'm looking at when I see different setups..thanks
Thanks for watching, Scott! We're happy to help! -Zach
Best video and great animations I’ve seen yet. Thank you for all the great work!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching! -Zach
Thank u.. finally a detailed video definitely going with positive
12 mm fender flush
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Really helpful information, especially being able to see the side by side comparison.
Thanks for watching! -Zach
I have a 2018 F150
With a 2.5 supreme suspension level
17” BMF drt pro wheels 8.5 wide + 6 offset
With atturo trailblade XT’s
35x12.5x17 no rubbing at all and about an inch of poke
Great and informative video. Thanks Justin!
Great job explaining offset.
Thanks for watching, Joey! We appreciate it! -Zach
Thank you for the insights...great to know the pros and cons of off-set rims...now iam all set for zero off-set for my pajero for daily use and offroads
This story is covered in detail at Torque News at "Video Explains Ford F-150 Offsets and Helps Owners With Key Info About Tires" www.torquenews.com/3769/video-helps-f150-owners-providing-them-key-info-about-pickup-tires-offsets
That was a great video and you explain the tire offset positive and negative in a great way! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it Eddie- thank you! -Justin
Thank you for this video! Now I know which tire set / size to get for my Fuel Contra wheels and tires
I have a 3 inch lifted STX..........stock wheels with 325/65R/18 tires............have my share of rubbing, mainly on the upper control arm. Hopefully this vid helps me out. :)
Finally a video that explains exactly what I wanted and needed to know🤘 awesome thanks guys
We're happy to help, Joe! Thanks for watching! -Zach
A video that gives great understanding about offsets. Great job
Awesome, thank you! -Justin
the intros are super satisfying
The flush offset is perfect
THANK YOU. Just what I needed to know. Getting some nice wheels
just what i needed great vid mate
These kinds of things are always going to be highly subjective, and everyone obviously has their own opinion. When I went looking for wheel and tire combination for my 2020 F150, the possibilities were seemingly endless. However, it doesn't take that long to start whittling things down. Style, size, offset, hub bore, price, and availability quickly become factors, and the list of potentials gets quite short. My truck came with stock 20's (275/55R20), with the obligatory +44 factory offset. While there's a lot of options for 20 inch wheels, I was never crazy about that wheel size. I chose the path of less wheel and more tire. The final verdict was Fuel Assault 17 X 8.5, +14mm offset, with Toyo Open Country 3s, LT 285/75R17 load range C tires. The combination of less offset with a wider and taller tire has given my truck the exact look I was hoping for, and the Open Country 3s have performed well in the northeast snow. That being said, anyone who's unfamiliar with these types of things, but looking to change their factory wheels should watch this video, multiple times if necessary. It's very clear cut, informative, and gives a great visualization of exactly how offset will affect the look of your vehicle.
Thanks for the kind words! -Justin
this helps me decide what kind of wheel and tires I should get...love the +12 offset look......thank u
Thanks for the feedback!! We're always happy to see that our videos are helping people out! -Zach
This was an excellent video. Did great job on visually showing the difference. Great camera work !!
Appreciate the love! -Justin
I have +10 305 /55 's on my 17 f150 and I love that it just barely comes out past the fender... To each his own ✌️
Best vid on the question of offset. Visual and informative. Thanks I free comfortable change the rims on my F250SD now.
We're glad it helped out! Thanks for watching! -Zach
Awesome video! Answered all the questions I had about picking some new rims. Thanks!
Great to hear and glad to help! -Justin
This was a super educational video, well done!
Thanks a bunch for watching! We appreciate it! -Zach
My current setup on Hilux 2018: 265/60R18 9J ET+12 . New setup would be 265/70R17 8J ET+20. Offset calculators online say that poke would be 20mm less. But if i still have same width of the wheel 265 Wouldnt the wheel sink in less in to the wheel well (20-12 = 8mm). So I'd still have tyre "poking" out just 8mm less than the current setup.
so what does it do for alingment
I appreciate this information so much! I finally understand what is OffSet means. 👍👏🙏
I was waiting for offset to come out and be like “OFFSET WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO” lol if you get it you get it
You should mention that wheel bearings will suffer with more offset. Be prepared to replace sooner. Also steering components will suffer and a tendency to follow road imperfections.
You are correct. Changing the geometry of the bearing load will create nothing but problems. 🔩
The little poke with a level is the way to go!!! Hook a brother up, here in Canada.
Cool video.
Basically if you change your offset outwards be prepared to eat wheelbearings.
I like the 12 off set for my 2017 F-150
That truck looked pretty dam good with factory wheels and the mickey thompson's.
Awesome video and very informative.
Had the last set of wheels and tires in video on 2018 Tundra (tons of metal and plastic trimming) - exact set up. Added fender flares to protect body. Nice stance though. Rides pretty different
Was your Tundra lifted at all? Like a 4” or 6” lift kit?
Perfect explanation. Thank you
Thanks for watching! -Zach
I'd go with the +12 "flush" offset with my truck. Just to bring the tires out a bit than look like they're stuck in there too much.
I have factory 18" wheels on my 2016 XLT...I'd like a more aggressive stance but don't want to modify anything and don't want any suspension issues to worry about...I want the all around multi purpose setup ,looks like that 12mm negative offset with a 20" wheel might be the answer for me.
Remember, width and offset combined are what create poke. Trying to show what changing offset alone does should be done by only changing offset. The three wheels you showed have different widths, 8.5”, 9”, and 10”.
Very descriptive video. Awesome job. 👍. Keep it up A/T
Glad you enjoyed it! -Justin
Thank you for this video. Very informative.
Best offset video
Okay I realized some people like to make their big wheels look fancy but I'm getting sick and f****** tired of getting a rock slung on my windshield and having to pay for windshield repair and or replacement, in Louisiana it's illegal to have your wheels stick out past its wheel covering and the state police have announced they're going to start cracking down if you don't have extended wheel fender wells😂
Shut up nerd
im rocking 22x 12. looks bad ass.
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Well done and professional video. Thank you!
Whats the difference between negative offset and wheel spacers???
Well you can use a spacer to achieve negative offset. For instance if you have a wheel with a +15mm offset and add a 25mm spacer your actual offset will now be -10mm. Hope this makes sense? -Justin
@@americantrucks if I want my tires to poke out a little. Would it be best to use a wheel spacer or have negative offset tires ?? Thank you !
Great explanation! Thanks!
Thanks for watching, Rocco!
You didn't discuss spacers. I know it's an inferior solution to achieving a more aggressive stance, but A LOT of people use them. I'm not a huge fan of really aggressive poke, but I do find this stuff interesting. Is using spacers safe? Does it harm the vehicle's suspension or hubs? For someone like me who prefers an OEM look but wants a more flush look, I'm wondering if simply using a 1 inch spacer with factory wheels is a reasonable option on a F-150.
First of all, I do appreciate you taking the time to inform your audience of this very important issue amongst us truck owners. Secondly, if I want to maintain my stock wheel on my 23 F-150, how do I achieve the +12 offset (a poke of about 1") with spacers (I assume) ?🤔
Spacers would be your best bet if you want to keep your factory wheels, for sure! -Zach
@@americantrucks I was going to ask the same thing so lets say i put 35/11.50/20 on my current 20 inch stock ford rim i have a 2 inch leveling kit Will that mess up my offset any?
Perfect explanation. Great video. Thank you buddy.
Thanks for watching! -Zach